Impaulsive with Logan Paul - Georges St-Pierre On Jon Jones VS Tom Aspinall FALLOUT, His UFO Sighting, Dana White’s UFC Issue

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00:00:28.440 Ladies and gentlemen, it's George St-Pierre.

00:00:31.600 I can't believe it.

00:00:32.860 This is such a surreal moment for me.

00:00:34.400 I grew up watching you, GSP.

00:00:36.000 The stuff that you're doing in wrestling is pretty amazing.

00:00:38.400 Now that I'm older, I'm watching him.

00:00:40.600 It's crazy.

00:00:41.900 26 and 2 records.

00:00:43.680 The only people that ever beat you were both named Matt.

00:00:46.880 Yeah, it's my kryptonite.

00:00:48.220 But I beat them after, so it's okay.

00:00:50.960 I went hunting.

00:00:52.000 You got in some deep trouble for that one.

00:00:54.120 People, they eat processed food where they farm chicken,

00:00:56.760 They treat them very bad, and now they're going to complain about what I did. 1.00

00:00:59.640 They're the hypocrite. 0.99

00:01:00.680 The problem nowadays is with AI. 1.00

00:01:03.480 You can make someone doing a movie.

00:01:06.120 I saw you in one the other day.

00:01:08.840 A guy that has a good spinning back kick, my friend, you get hit with it.

00:01:11.880 You're gone. 0.72

00:01:12.680 Boom!

00:01:13.080 Who are the best guys right now?

00:01:14.200 Jon Jones, Tom Aspinall.

00:01:15.720 Why is that fight not happening?

00:01:17.880 You can say it, GSP.

00:01:18.920 Go for it.

00:01:19.320 Come on, say what you want to say.

00:01:26.760 All right, well, if we're rolling, then it seems like a good time for a chant.

00:01:33.180 Yeah.

00:01:33.640 Yeah.

00:01:34.060 One, two, three.

00:01:35.440 GSP!

00:01:36.520 GSP!

00:01:37.540 GSP!

00:01:38.460 GSP!

00:01:39.080 Ladies and gentlemen, it's George St. Pierre!

00:01:41.480 I can't believe it!

00:01:43.540 The GOAT!

00:01:44.700 That's crazy!

00:01:46.780 One of the greatest UFC fighters of all time.

00:01:49.640 Dude, this is such a surreal moment for me.

00:01:51.420 I grew up watching you, GSP.

00:01:53.520 God, they make me feel so old now.

00:01:55.480 No, no, no, because you're still very young.

00:01:58.240 You're still very young.

00:01:59.440 We Googled your age this morning.

00:02:00.900 Oh, thank you, man.

00:02:01.940 Listen, I was in Montreal last time I saw you.

00:02:05.380 You were at the wrestling event.

00:02:09.420 Sami Zayn was doing the grand finale.

00:02:12.320 It was amazing, man, doing some flip and everything, man.

00:02:15.200 Yeah, sounds like me.

00:02:16.920 Have you done gymnastics growing up?

00:02:19.720 I have not.

00:02:21.000 My mom was a gymnast, so she has it in her blood,

00:02:23.540 and I think by default.

00:02:24.580 That's it.

00:02:24.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:25.800 But you've done gymnastics.

00:02:27.560 Well, I've started when I was like 28 years old, so I started too late.

00:02:32.920 Yeah, tough sport, man.

00:02:34.160 Yeah, it's very tough.

00:02:35.040 But the stuff that you're doing while you're in wrestling is pretty amazing.

00:02:39.760 I really thought you were a gymnast.

00:02:41.280 Come on, enough about me.

00:02:42.040 No, no, I was just going to say, did you see what just happened there?

00:02:46.520 This man came on the show and the first thing he did was ask about you.

00:02:49.680 This is the GSB I know.

00:02:51.280 This is a good friend of mine, a fellow commentator.

00:02:54.360 No, it's funny because he said that he grew up watching me.

00:02:57.800 Then now that I'm older, I'm watching him.

00:03:00.760 It's crazy.

00:03:02.220 Entertainment, you know, at his best right here.

00:03:04.960 So, dude, we're at Fanatics Fest here in New York.

00:03:06.960 And man, have you walked around the floor here?

00:03:09.420 Yeah, a little bit.

00:03:10.100 Yeah.

00:03:10.360 So it's huge.

00:03:11.400 Such a big event.

00:03:12.220 I don't know if you've met Michael Rubin, the CEO of Fanatics, but I told him I just ran into him and I told him it's really inspiring because like to build something like this in the sports and collectibles industry that hasn't been done before is so cool.

00:03:23.620 and there's so many young people walking around here who are like you know opening the first

00:03:29.300 collectible cards or want to be like a sports guy people who watch you people who watch me maybe

00:03:34.300 and man like i said i watched you growing up like i've been a a fight fan for pretty much my whole

00:03:41.000 life and my whole family was obsessed with you and dude george one day we were i think we were

00:03:47.140 on a road trip like in the middle of nowhere and we went in this fast food restaurant and you were

00:03:53.140 there dude no no you were i love fast food yes it was a place that i was like shocked to see you

00:04:00.820 that makes sense listen was it at like 3 a.m in the morning yes george yeah after a club yeah

00:04:07.600 that's the best that's crazy that's that's the best time to have a fast food it's after you know

00:04:13.260 when you go out of course you drink what's your go-to well i i like a poutine a poutine it's a

00:04:19.960 French fries with cheese and a gravy.

00:04:23.140 It's a French-Canadian thing that we have in Quebec.

00:04:25.300 It's my favorite.

00:04:26.100 And there's different kind of poutine.

00:04:28.720 The way you're saying that is slightly sexual, George.

00:04:32.320 It's the best, man.

00:04:33.660 But where do you get it if you want to get it in the States?

00:04:36.680 You can't have it.

00:04:37.640 I mean, you can't have some in L.A.

00:04:39.580 Really?

00:04:39.960 Yeah, there's poutine in L.A.

00:04:41.220 But yeah, but in the U.S., normally I will go to, you know, a cheeseburger or something.

00:04:46.620 But a burger with French fries.

00:04:47.940 I know you guys are best friends.

00:04:48.920 maybe you don't know this though but mike actually has his own burger shop that's that's

00:04:52.800 actually starting to open up it's called 10 10 burger you gotta try it dude it's called 10 10

00:04:57.360 burger because it's a 10 out of 10 burger he rates burgers and has a burger review channel

00:05:01.000 hey i want to taste it you should yeah hey hey can he come to the hamptons with us i'm a i i he

00:05:06.800 i can't he part are you still partying these days yeah right no but it doesn't have to be a party

00:05:11.060 i can't you know i love fast food i can't proclaim myself a burger specialist no burger expert so

00:05:18.680 So I will give you an honest assessment.

00:05:21.320 You never told me this.

00:05:22.540 Bro, I went all around the world.

00:05:24.320 The best burger I ever had, ever had, okay, it was in Austin, Texas, you know?

00:05:29.760 Which one?

00:05:32.020 NADC.

00:05:32.700 NADC.

00:05:33.260 Shout out, Phillip.

00:05:34.280 Shout out, Phillip.

00:05:35.320 He's incredible.

00:05:36.280 Great chef.

00:05:37.260 Phillip with Sushi by Scratch and NADC.

00:05:41.320 Rogan had a burger there.

00:05:42.700 How come you didn't tell me this in all our days working there?

00:05:45.060 I didn't know you were a fan of a burger.

00:05:46.440 I didn't know you had a, you know, it was my whole identity.

00:05:48.680 want to try your burger i'll give you a rate i'll give you an honest assessment are you busy are

00:05:53.480 you busy tomorrow night oh you're flying tomorrow i i'll be i'll be here why don't you cancel your

00:05:57.860 trip your trip tomorrow night and come with us to the hamptons to a music festival man i would

00:06:01.280 i would love i have a commitment i have to go but man what's the commitment we'll pay more than

00:06:06.720 yeah damn it's like it's it's like a family thing i have no choice yeah yeah bro i i want to i want

00:06:12.960 to do it man i trust me i really want to try it i love it i love burgers it's my go-to thing and 0.98

00:06:19.520 a lot of a lot of people don't know like oh you're an athlete you're still in shape yeah

00:06:23.220 but it's okay to have a burger but as soon as as long as you burn it you know like i i put in the

00:06:29.100 work so what's your what's your favorite kind of because it's a smash burger yeah double smash

00:06:33.520 burger potato bun um you know two slices american cheese of sauce pickles onions it's phenomenal

00:06:39.240 that's how i like it you know with a lot of sauce a lot of cheese you know greasy you know juicy

00:06:44.120 that's what i like we should add gsp's poutine to the menu too bro puts in it's very good

00:06:50.200 that's dirty the way you're saying most of american people have no idea i'm sure it could

00:06:55.300 it could turn into something very successful a puts in and you can add puts in you can make

00:06:59.720 there's there's certain type of poutine my favorite one is called a t-rex they put like

00:07:03.780 smoked meat on top of it oh like gravy and man it's amazing you said you said you bring up t-rex

00:07:08.800 by the way which there's another topic that we're going to talk a lot about today dude

00:07:11.880 you're you're i because we got to talk about fighting obviously but you're just a you're a

00:07:16.560 dinosaur fanatic no pun intended for lack of a better word you're a dinosaur fanatic and so is

00:07:22.640 logan did you know this i really yeah i didn't know i didn't know tell him what you own oh bro

00:07:26.940 i'm obsessed with dinosaurs my prized possession is a is a 66 million year old triceratops really

00:07:32.580 yeah yeah i have it in my in my foyer it's called his name is dudley no way yeah it was found in

00:07:38.640 myoming and i also have a eight foot tall duck-billed dinosaur leg i had had hadros or

00:07:43.720 yep yep uh really yeah yeah yep yep hadrosaur and uh i also have like four t-rex teeth i love

00:07:48.720 dinosaurs wow i'm obsessed and i saw actually that you traveled the world digging up dinosaur

00:07:54.060 fossils yeah i i i did it because it was a pilot for for a show called boneyard uh it did it end

00:08:02.380 up not working because they wanted to make their show about me looking for dinosaurs but me i

00:08:06.940 wanted to make the show about dinosaurs so they wanted me to do i mean it was a great thing it

00:08:12.560 was during my my break uh of four years i really enjoyed it it allows me to travel the world and

00:08:19.740 meet great paleontologists microbiologists and man i had a blast i i went on a site in

00:08:25.620 in argentina in pentagonia region i'm not kidding you i i went there and you have to look where you

00:08:33.020 stuff because it was full of fossilized eggshell of titanosaurs like there were thousands and

00:08:38.340 thousands it was oh it was an amazing site yeah amazing site eggshells fossilized eggshell that

00:08:44.680 that have probably been covered by a mud a flood of mud yeah that now it's it's a you can see it

00:08:52.620 it's crazy how cool is it yeah it was unbelievable yeah and i went on a site it was in uh i think it

00:08:57.980 in uh north dakota it was a what appears to be like sort of a they don't know they were like

00:09:05.400 working on it while i was there and it was with professor pearson and it happens to be like a

00:09:11.680 sort of a i don't know if it was a feeding nest of tyrannosaur because they had like a femur bones

00:09:18.140 of triceratops triceratops slash slash and break in half like but what could only be tyrannosaurs

00:09:25.280 yeah it was unbelievable and tyrannosaurus tooth tooth every teeth everywhere was yeah that's sick

00:09:31.280 you know you know they shed their teeth they shed so they shed their teeth multiple times in a

00:09:36.280 lifetime oh yeah yeah it regrows yeah and the triceratops actually some people have named it

00:09:42.180 the t-rex killer because the triceratops and the tyrannosaurus tyrannosaurus are assumed to have

00:09:47.840 fought before and sometimes the tyrannosaurus would feed on the triceratops but since your

00:09:51.680 triceratops has such a low center of gravity and those big horns it could sometimes kill t-rex and

00:09:57.220 they've been fought they've been uh actually fossilized fighting before there's a there's a um

00:10:01.940 a piece called the fighting dinosaurs or the dueling dinos if you have to go back in time okay 0.97

00:10:07.580 i'm sorry it's kind of a geeky conversation no i love this shit you want it you want it to go back 0.89

00:10:13.460 in time and and all time could be today any any era which animal fight would you like to witness 0.97

00:10:20.080 outside outside of tyrannosaurus rex against triceratops and which by the way they probably

00:10:25.200 fought in group probably not like one-on-one now we know that way they probably went like in a group

00:10:31.300 similar to lion against uh bull but which which other species i i would have loved to see

00:10:38.100 i would have loved to see giganotosaur against titanosaurus how do they even fight because

00:10:45.180 From what I've learned and what it's believed, they had a different tactics than T-Rex.

00:10:52.700 T-Rex was bone crushing bites, you know, like it crushed everything.

00:10:57.800 But Giganotosaurus, when it hunted Titanosaurus, probably went and packed and took a slice of meat, like a little bit like Piranhas.

00:11:07.480 Wait, wait, wait.

00:11:07.960 Piranhas, and they gang up on one individual and then until it collapsed and then they, yeah, yeah.

00:11:13.720 And they know they co-existed, and it must have been an incredible sight if you could go back in time and see how they hunted.

00:11:24.640 It was insane.

00:11:25.420 I don't think I have anything in my life that I'm as passionate about as he is about these dinosaurs fighting right now.

00:11:31.980 I'm so jealous.

00:11:33.840 How about the king of the sea, the Megalodon?

00:11:36.380 Oh, the Megalodon, yeah.

00:11:37.400 Havaillatons.

00:11:38.120 Havaillatons. 0.92

00:11:38.780 Crazy.

00:11:39.460 Prehistoric sperm whale.

00:11:40.880 They probably, like, at some point, like, interlap in time.

00:11:46.140 For sure.

00:11:46.580 Me, I'd like to see, like, a dodo bird, you know, get into, like, a battle with someone.

00:11:50.840 Because they're extinct. 0.98

00:11:51.720 This is a little fucked up, maybe. 0.95

00:11:54.220 But our actually, like, kind of close ancestors, like, Neanderthals, fighting, like, one of the other, like, what was before Homo sapiens, like, Homo erectus. 0.97

00:12:05.880 Yeah. 0.61

00:12:06.240 Like pre-humans, fighting pre-humans as like actual animalistic survival would have been wild to see.

00:12:14.320 Yeah, but we know that our species coexist with many different species at one point in time. 0.61

00:12:21.020 They had Neanderthals, they had Denisovan, they had Florianensis, and it must have been like the Lord of the Ring.

00:12:29.180 Imagine that. It's insane.

00:12:30.540 You don't talk about race of human, like black, white, Spanish.

00:12:34.280 like you talk about the different kind of species yeah that must have been crazy but apparently

00:12:38.840 neanderthal from what they know it was probably much stronger than us so if you would have put

00:12:45.920 neanderthal against almost sapien neanderthal must very must have killed very strong the reason we

00:12:52.420 might have we might have win or or now the fact that we exist and they don't they know that at

00:12:58.520 some point we had a conflict with them is because we have a chewing weapon yep that we could true

00:13:04.700 they didn't have that they from what we know they only had like spears they went like like a close

00:13:10.640 quarter with like you imagine that like and blunt force yeah with like mammoth and and mastodont

00:13:17.800 you imagine that you have to go close quarter with these kind of animal to hunt them it's insane it's

00:13:22.100 insane dude i was talking i was talking with my fiance about this like the the comforts of what

00:13:26.760 it means to be like a modern day human like we we've we've forgotten that we're a species that

00:13:30.580 spoiled oh it's insane like we don't even have to worry about survival man dude 10 000 years ago

00:13:36.960 you're like fighting for your life every day sometimes i wonder if my great great grandfather

00:13:42.860 would see us of how we are nowadays what he would think of us he would be very mad dude 100 it would 0.81

00:13:50.760 be disgusting you don't need to go just go to your parents your parents will say that yeah bro we

00:13:56.020 don't even have to go to the grocery store they'll deliver your poutine right to your your house 0.99

00:14:00.040 100 and we snap our finger and we have food coming no but but it's it's crazy but because of that

00:14:05.680 because of how easy everything is for us and the comforts of modern day life i think like humans

00:14:11.300 have found other other problems to fixate on uh like man do you think mikey do you think like

00:14:17.280 anxiety and depression like existed 100 years ago i mean i think i think it probably existed but it

00:14:24.200 wasn't like a a center but it's because you're trying to live yeah yeah yeah yeah it was based

00:14:29.540 on your nervous system and your fight or flight and like oh my god there's a bird trying to a

00:14:33.720 pterodactyl is trying to steal my baby right now you know what i'm saying like i've got to fight

00:14:36.980 this thing that would give you anxiety but like your homework or like the fact that you have to

00:14:41.560 go buy produce at the grocery store probably wouldn't give you anxiety i think the stress

00:14:46.720 must have been different it must have been way more intense than what we experienced today

00:14:52.620 because you're fighting literally for your life yeah but they probably didn't have the same 0.99

00:14:58.700 stupid problem and like you know uh long long-term stress that we have yeah always on yeah like 0.99

00:15:05.980 paying paying your rent or whatever stress like that most people deal with they they had stress 1.00

00:15:12.680 that like am i am i gonna live or die am i gonna eat tomorrow or not you know i need to feed my

00:15:18.040 family like this sort of thing hey i'm not gonna be killed by the tribe or next door you know

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00:18:05.060 Well, this is awkward.

00:18:06.480 Would you say a D-list actor?

00:18:08.280 D?

00:18:10.260 I don't even know there's such a thing as D.

00:18:12.100 No, no, no.

00:18:12.740 I mean, like...

00:18:13.280 I can't even get on the C-list.

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00:18:28.280 My industry that I gravitate in,

00:18:30.560 makes martial art, is crazy.

00:18:32.940 and i was always good to put the shield around myself because a lot of people there's a lot of

00:18:40.540 psychological warfare in in our sport and people try to get to you they can't get to you physically

00:18:45.980 they try to make you derail you know mentally we've seen that a good example of that was

00:18:51.020 when jose jose aldo uh fought conor mcgregor yeah conor mcgregor what he did was he planned it he

00:18:57.340 He planned it, and Jose Aldo went crazy, tried to, he was enraged.

00:19:02.160 Look what happened.

00:19:02.960 12 seconds.

00:19:03.760 Such a smart strategy, especially for a fighter.

00:19:06.780 Look what happened with Conor McGregor and Khabib.

00:19:09.480 Same thing, you know, like Conor went after, I think he said something about his family.

00:19:13.400 So as soon as you expose these things, especially in mixed martial art,

00:19:18.640 the guys will do anything to get to you.

00:19:20.940 Yeah.

00:19:21.240 Because it's not like a game like baseball, football.

00:19:24.260 the outcome of a loss as it's could be way more dramatic so people will do anything for sure

00:19:31.080 it's a very dirty dirty industry oh it's insane i experienced it myself and if i were like

00:19:36.380 weak-minded or didn't have the mental fortitude that i've earned for from the years of being

00:19:42.140 subject to uh judgment on the internet it would have taken a toll on me but like this is just

00:19:46.400 another walk in the park but it happens because i think a lot of people aren't used to being

00:19:50.700 attacked like that online especially with the people you love most my business partner ksi

00:19:55.700 actually not to blow up a spot but has like a similar mentality and like i've always i've

00:19:59.440 always respected the ability to keep the most uh cherished parts of your life private yeah i think

00:20:04.120 it's smart i i learned at a very young age to put a shield around myself because the reason why i

00:20:09.440 started martial art the first reason why i started is because of a it was a for a self-defense purpose

00:20:15.320 I was bullied at school and I needed to learn self-defense then self-defense transformed into

00:20:21.400 a passion then it transformed into a way I earned a living but because I learned how to deal with

00:20:26.040 mental warfare and you know bullying at a very young age I was it was a very experienced very

00:20:32.300 negative experience at a very young age but transformed into something that was very positive

00:20:37.860 later on in my life because i learned how to to to make a shield and you know to to not be

00:20:44.640 affected by that later on in my career as a as a mixed martial art fighter i'm sure it affected

00:20:51.360 your confidence as well learning mixed martial arts it did uh i wish i could tell you i get rid

00:20:56.860 of my bullying problem when i was young because i beat up all the bully but that's not how it

00:21:01.460 happen i i martial art helped me because it at the time i was always complaining about myself

00:21:08.340 i was a very different person and i wanted to change my environment but what i realized is

00:21:14.300 that before changing my environment because my environments i have no no control over it sometimes

00:21:19.680 i need to change myself from the inside out and when i realized that and when i did that

00:21:24.080 my environment changed and it changed my life dude we we gotta go through some of these stats

00:21:29.640 i was about to say it changed your life in a made two-time ufc welterweight champion

00:21:34.240 ufc middleweight champion uh dude fourth fighter in ufc history to hold to champ champ to hold

00:21:41.880 two titles in two different weight classes uh nine title defenses ufc hall of fame 2019

00:21:46.800 26 and 2 record and a multi-division ufc champion and the only people that ever beat you

00:21:53.900 were both named Matt.

00:21:55.720 Yeah, I have it.

00:21:56.260 Do you have a problem?

00:21:57.960 Do you hate the name Matthew?

00:22:00.440 Man, it's my kryptonite, bro.

00:22:02.560 But I beat them after, so it's okay.

00:22:05.620 I settled a score.

00:22:07.580 But it seems to me like it's my kryptonite, I guess.

00:22:12.400 It's my Achilles, you know?

00:22:14.180 Would you say that you are at least in contention

00:22:17.020 to be one of the greatest UFC fighters of all time?

00:22:19.440 Yeah, I did very well.

00:22:21.500 It's very subjective, you know?

00:22:23.240 for me the greatest of all time

00:22:24.900 it was Royce Gracie

00:22:27.040 I grew up like I was a teenager

00:22:29.340 when I saw him win

00:22:30.840 the first tournament of the UFC

00:22:32.780 he really inspired me and at the time

00:22:34.920 there was no weight class

00:22:36.340 there were no rules you could literally

00:22:38.720 headbutt do everything you want

00:22:41.080 except like eye gouge stuff like that

00:22:42.720 but the sport was different

00:22:44.420 when you used to watch the sport at the time

00:22:46.680 it was different

00:22:47.360 you thought that someone might die

00:22:50.280 it was insane and the referee were

00:22:53.240 quite incompetent back then you know like you see a pile of blood like behind someone's head that

00:22:59.240 was that just got knocked out on the floor it was a different era so for me Royce Gracie

00:23:04.760 he's the greatest of course if you put him in there in the octagon nowadays he would

00:23:09.000 not do so well nowadays no but for a time for for his time for me he's the best are you watching the

00:23:16.760 product now absolutely I don't watch it as much as I used to but I still like to watch the best

00:23:22.680 guys because i can learn from them who are the best guys right now oh there's a there's a few

00:23:26.840 guys i love to watch i love uh john jones tom aspinall uh i love you mentioned both of them

00:23:32.580 at the same time like that of course you put them together well they need to fight to find out who's

00:23:37.280 the best guy gsp why is that fight not happening well it could be for two reasons it's either that

00:23:44.400 john jones is using a strategy to to for to have more money um you could say it jsp go for it come

00:23:54.300 on say what you want to say but i think that's why he's doing it you know if he's doing it just

00:24:00.040 to hold the title to to you know to to to serve the way if this is not and if he has no intention

00:24:06.740 of coming back that's not right you know but if he does it for uh as a strategy to have more money

00:24:12.280 I can't understand why, but I think that the UFC needs to do something to get things moving.

00:24:18.600 Either pay him what he wants or, you know, like make negotiation happen or, you know, get things moving.

00:24:25.700 Because athletes as a window, they can't wait forever.

00:24:28.960 And when that window is passed, your money-making machine is broke, is finished.

00:24:33.760 Do you think that's a fight that the UFC needs right now?

00:24:37.820 Well, there's a lot of other fights to make.

00:24:39.980 Like Elias Toporia, they have Islam Makachev, they have Mira.

00:24:45.620 There's so many guys that are very fun to watch.

00:24:48.580 Islam Makachev, Kamzab, Shimaev, there's so many stars.

00:24:53.380 I think as a fan, I would have loved to see this fight.

00:24:57.180 It just depends if Jon Jones really want to do this

00:24:59.920 and if the UFC needs to take action, you know?

00:25:04.400 like uh sit at the at the table with john jones and seriously and and commit and make it happen

00:25:11.980 or either you know move on you know it doesn't seem like john really likes the topic very much

00:25:16.680 he he actually uh walked off uh a podcast uh the full sentence show the other day because he got

00:25:21.860 asked about the topic and really he was like yeah i'm done here and just kind of got up and walked

00:25:25.940 off tom loves talking about it yeah of course because he's young and hungry um but you actually

00:25:32.440 needs to do something you know like and i think john's john needs to give his price what he wants

00:25:38.960 because you know he deserves it i think i i believe we're athletes in mixed martial arts and ufc and

00:25:44.160 all mixed martial arts are underpaid they you know and it's it's sort of a relatively of a

00:25:49.860 new sport and it's like any other sport it started bad for the the performer the the players the the

00:25:57.640 athletes but it gets better over time and i think john has an opportunity or also not only for

00:26:03.160 himself but for other athletes to make to raise the bar for for everyone so you should take

00:26:07.920 advantage of it do you think that the ufc is currently having what some are calling a superstar

00:26:14.500 problem in that they have a lack of people who create the big money fights like conor mcgregor

00:26:21.180 because some would say that although it could be argued that UFC fighters are generally underpaid

00:26:28.900 is there an argument that it's kind of you get you get what you you get what you give and what

00:26:35.240 you bring in you know because like what everyone wants to watch the conor mcgregor fight because

00:26:40.100 when he's not in the octagon he's got a lot to say and it's very entertaining right and john jones

00:26:45.200 has made his name for himself he's controversial we want to see what he wants to do next he's

00:26:49.120 badass fighters so like you know these guys who who have transcended just ufc but do you think

00:26:53.940 maybe the ufc at the moment has a lot of guys who are really good fighters but maybe ultimately

00:26:59.600 might not be that much of a draw for people who aren't fight fans that's interesting i mean conor

00:27:05.300 mcgregor i believe he's an he's an anomaly you know he's the most popular fight yeah i don't you

00:27:12.840 know love me hate me but don't ignore me yeah he did something that it was unbelievable it's hard

00:27:18.920 to try to recreate that you know it will happen at one point for sure you know the records are

00:27:25.840 made to be broken but right now because nobody can do what connor have done i don't think it's

00:27:33.200 because they're they don't have any stars they have stars you know they had sean of mali but

00:27:37.640 not sean of mali lost they had a israel adesanya uh he lost a few times it's unfortunate uh for

00:27:45.580 ufc because he was a big name perera same thing just lost like do you think when that happens 0.92

00:27:49.960 dana's sitting octagon ringside and he's like damn it son of a as a businessman i have to be

00:27:56.340 honest as a businessman i think the goal of ufc is to make money yeah number one it's not good 0.96

00:28:03.540 for them because if one of one of their superstar lose is not good uh but on the other side i don't

00:28:09.920 think they necessarily try to give i mean they might do it sometime to give a good dancing

00:28:16.360 partner to certain guys so it it promote them but when you're a champion man you take the first

00:28:22.600 the number one contender that's how it should that's how it that's how it should be yeah that

00:28:26.900 that's the difference between boxing and mma we always like criticize boxing because oh there's

00:28:34.180 guys that have like 60 and 0

00:28:35.960 40 and 0, 30 and 0

00:28:37.700 but they don't really have

00:28:40.020 a strong challenge

00:28:41.580 the reason why people

00:28:44.220 love mixed martial arts is because

00:28:45.780 when you're champion, you're fighting the number

00:28:48.080 one contender and it's not

00:28:50.140 up to you to choose and this

00:28:51.920 should not change

00:28:53.300 that's how it was in my time

00:28:56.340 that's how it should be now

00:28:57.760 the champion has nothing to say

00:28:59.960 you fight who's in front and that's

00:29:02.160 how it should be, UFC should take action

00:29:03.840 you know it's it seems like it's not it's also not even just like a personality problem it feels

00:29:09.460 like now the strikers are all going down and it's coming back to like a lot of grapplers and people

00:29:15.240 want you know what i'm saying and you want like you got the dagestani wave you've got the you've

00:29:19.380 got marab like takedown specialist and and and grappling specialist and people want to watch

00:29:24.760 striking when you see suga go down you see adesanya go down you see pareda go down who was

00:29:29.660 a surgeon right like that that sucks for the for the fight fans it's true but it's it it's a cycle

00:29:36.960 you'll see if you look at ufc since the beginning first it was the grappler jiu-jitsu then at one

00:29:42.900 point it was the american wrestler then it was the striker then it went back to the grappler

00:29:47.620 it's a cycle it's it's it goes by era it seems to be that that at one point yeah you have good

00:29:55.680 wrestlers that that comes out but then after the the guys that are more striker gonna find a way

00:30:01.000 to neglect their their wrestling and and to you know to come out with their striking then the

00:30:06.380 grappler will come back you know that that's how it is it's a wave yeah it's a wave and i think the

00:30:10.820 key to be successful in mixed martial art i never been the best grappler or the best striker what i

00:30:16.960 was very good is i was able to transform myself into the perfect nemesis of my opponent you know

00:30:23.560 that was my strength and i think to be well-rounded is is the key for longevity in the sport because

00:30:30.220 you got the option of becoming either a striker or a grappler just moving the levers a little bit

00:30:38.920 exactly exactly is is that what you mean when you say you train to be the biggest nemesis

00:30:44.340 what do you mean by that when i i mean to to simplify the thing i just simplify it to say hey

00:30:50.640 If you're a wrestler, I will strike you.

00:30:52.300 If you're a grappler. 0.99

00:30:52.880 You're picking on their weaknesses.

00:30:54.020 Yeah, but let's say, you know, you know, a guy is a, you're fighting a guy.

00:30:57.920 He's a good boxer.

00:30:59.060 You know, like you're going to stay out of his boxing range while you're standing up.

00:31:03.580 Mostly use your kick to keep him away.

00:31:05.920 And if you try to close the distance.

00:31:08.020 Take down.

00:31:08.440 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:09.480 And that's what Murat, that's what Murat did to Suga.

00:31:12.080 Exactly, exactly.

00:31:13.440 And that's just one example of how you can fight a guy who's a good boxer.

00:31:16.680 I'm just giving a very oversimplified example.

00:31:19.760 but I was able to transform myself.

00:31:22.720 But it takes a lot of logic

00:31:23.960 and it's not all fighters.

00:31:25.940 Some fighters are very...

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00:33:41.820 gifted athletically but they don't have sometimes the the the team or the the the ability to make

00:33:50.340 the right decision or to game plan it's a chess game you know fighting is more than than you know

00:33:55.520 who's the toughest the more the strongest it's about it's about how you're gonna transform

00:34:00.460 yourself it's there's a lot of game plan to it and it's all all this is made during the preparation

00:34:06.780 the preparation is key if you prepare yourself the best you can and you can say oh i train hard

00:34:14.120 train hard it's it's it's important but what is mostly important and even more important than

00:34:19.280 training hard is training smart a lot of guys they train smart they train hard but they don't

00:34:23.640 train smart they work hard but they don't train smart they waste their time you know it's like a

00:34:28.980 knife if you try to sharp your knife you know it's good but at one point if you try to do it too much

00:34:34.980 you'll mess up the material and you end up with no knife i've seen that happening very often in

00:34:40.800 mma yes yes it's so funny not funny it's it's it's it's just amazing to hear you talk about

00:34:47.620 like the mastery of this craft because uh that's part of the reason why people loved you so much

00:34:53.560 i think like your your uh uh dedication to the discipline and respect that and respect to mixed

00:35:00.100 martial arts is almost like this kind of old school way of of fighting and combat that that

00:35:06.340 that may have been lost a little bit like even when you're in your walkouts you'd walk out with

00:35:10.340 the gi yeah and you'd have traditional traditional like japanese flag headband on and you you you

00:35:17.780 gave respect to each discipline in mixed martial arts they can't do that anymore because of of

00:35:23.060 sponsorship they have unfortunately but i i believe that i was very successful not because

00:35:29.220 i worked the hardest there's guys that were just as hard as me there's guy i was very athletic but

00:35:35.000 there's guys that are more athletic than i am i think one of the reasons i was very successful

00:35:41.040 is because when an opportunity was given to me i never let it go i cease it even though if it

00:35:50.400 forces me to get out of my force of my comfort zone and even though i was scared i was not

00:35:58.200 paralyzed by fear i was always very honest about it i was terrified i was afraid but i always when

00:36:04.120 i saw an opportunity i take it even if if i fail i failed but you know i never miss an opportunity

00:36:10.240 to improve i wanted to ask about your relationship with fear because you kind of just brought it up

00:36:14.900 and for fighters it's obviously like uh a demon you have to look in the face eventually um how do

00:36:22.580 you handle fear before you go into a title fight you know nine times when i was young i thought

00:36:29.400 that later on in my career fear will go away because i will get i will get more experience

00:36:35.180 and i realized that fear does not go away fear get worse you're more stressed because every fight

00:36:43.140 when you're successful are bigger than the last one and you have more to lose you have more people

00:36:47.940 watching you so there is more at stake so it gets worse then after i decided to to see certain

00:36:55.360 sport psychologists and they always told me that at the time my english was not as good as it is

00:37:00.320 now they were trying to brainwash me george stop saying you're afraid you're not afraid you're

00:37:05.120 excited and i was like man i don't know i will be excited for another situation but not to not

00:37:11.040 knowing if i'm gonna get beat up humiliated or you know to win the fight on saturday night and

00:37:16.840 then I realized that there's no courage without fear. You shouldn't be afraid to admit that I'm

00:37:22.820 afraid. And the way you domesticate fear, because it will always be there, the way you domesticate

00:37:29.480 it, you have to accept it. Accept the fact that the fear will make you train harder because you're

00:37:35.340 afraid that your opponent is going to get more prepared than you are. The fear is going to heighten

00:37:40.340 your reaction time, your power when it's time to explode. It's going to make you better. It's going

00:37:45.780 enhance your senses your athletic uh performance that the fear could be used positively of course

00:37:55.500 it can make you fold under pressure but the way you domesticated it is by by prepare with the

00:38:03.880 preparation the more the better you prepare the better you you have the more you have confidence

00:38:11.060 the more you increase your confidence and and confidence is not the absence of fear is knowing

00:38:14.820 that you have what you need in order to succeed and when you're confident you can walk with a

00:38:20.400 straight face you put on a mask and you're ready to give it all because even though you're afraid

00:38:25.540 you know you can lie to others but you cannot lie to yourself you know you've done what needs to be

00:38:30.500 done in order to be to your optimal form yep and you can go out there with you know an empty mind

00:38:38.900 and and you know be be ready to face anything did you did you uh have fun because we've talked to

00:38:45.840 we've had a lot of fighters on the show you've been very blessed and had a lot of great fighters

00:38:49.540 on the show did you have fun in in the octagon your entire career or did you no i i'm i'm a little

00:38:56.920 bit different i think than most of fighters after i just talked with justin gaethje a few minutes

00:39:02.820 to go in and most of fighters they love to fight i never really liked it i i i like to win i love

00:39:10.380 to win the the feeling of winning the the release of dopamine that you have is just unbelievable

00:39:16.240 but the waiting part like that lasted i would say a few week before the fight and it get worse as

00:39:25.740 to get you get closer to a fight it's unbearable it's terrible and that last that part lasts much

00:39:32.920 longer than the winning part so if i look at it it's more negative there's more cons than pros

00:39:40.800 and i wonder what the hell why the hell i did this i did this because i want to use that

00:39:47.800 I had a gift and I was very lucky.

00:39:51.500 I worked really hard and I want to use that to buy my freedom,

00:39:56.280 to propel me where I wanted to be in life.

00:39:59.120 And I was very lucky and I did it.

00:40:00.860 And the stars were aligned and I feel very blessed.

00:40:04.840 Yeah, you got that freedom now.

00:40:06.560 Yeah, we're never entirely free because we all have responsibility, you know.

00:40:12.600 But I can go anywhere I want.

00:40:15.560 I have a lot of money to live for the rest of my life and my family, too, and don't have to work.

00:40:21.060 But you still do.

00:40:22.040 If I don't do something crazy, you know.

00:40:24.480 But you know what I mean?

00:40:25.740 I have more freedom than I used to.

00:40:27.120 I used to be broke.

00:40:27.920 I didn't have money growing up.

00:40:28.940 People don't know, but it was a very hard time back then for me.

00:40:33.020 And when I remember, I remember where I come from, and it makes me appreciate what I have now.

00:40:38.660 Do you have a, do you have a, this is my last fighting question, at least.

00:40:42.080 Do you have a victory because there's a bunch of them that stand out?

00:40:46.500 Do you have one that really stands out to you as like the moment you kind of knew or the greatest victory moment in your career?

00:40:53.280 I mean, there's a few.

00:40:55.240 When I first won the title against Matthews in Sacramento, it was a chapter of my life that just ended because I achieved my goal.

00:41:05.500 then i would say another one that was very good was when i had my rematch with matt sarah in

00:41:12.660 montreal oh sounds like because i had stories i had to fight my demon i had because i i lost to

00:41:20.480 and i had a big drop and i had to climb i climbed i was telling myself i climbed the everest once

00:41:26.660 and i'm gonna fucking claim it again you know and i and i did it i was very happy and the last one 0.71

00:41:33.220 was my fight with michael bisping uh my came back madison square garden new york it was it was great 0.90

00:41:38.800 and that was the end of my career after that amazing did do you feel like you i guess one

00:41:44.420 more do you feel like you have to write that loss like so if you get beat by someone you

00:41:51.420 you have to close that chapter i do because i'm i'm crazy i'm a little bit obsessive compulsive

00:41:57.800 And when you're, I'm not the same person I used to be.

00:42:02.580 I mean, when I was fighting at the time, my pride, my ego was very important.

00:42:10.020 It was very important.

00:42:10.880 I had more pride than anyone in the room.

00:42:13.940 My ego was crazy big.

00:42:16.960 I can't believe that.

00:42:18.220 Because I know you and you, dude, you are literally.

00:42:20.860 I always try to stay humble, but my pride, my ego was bigger than anyone.

00:42:26.440 And it's a good thing as a fighter because that's what hold me up in front of adversity.

00:42:33.560 And when I retire, one of the reasons why I retire, I realized at one point, because it used to be very important for me of what people thought of me.

00:42:42.900 When I was young, it was very important.

00:42:45.180 But after a certain age, I realized that it's not so important what people think of me.

00:42:52.200 What really matter is what the people, what people love me, think of me.

00:42:57.640 And that's when I made peace with this.

00:43:00.020 I was good.

00:43:01.340 And I turn I turn to a different chapter in my life.

00:43:07.300 My brother has a similar feeling towards yours in terms of avenging a loss.

00:43:12.460 He's got an 11 and one boxing record.

00:43:16.340 And the one came from a guy by the name of Tommy Fury.

00:43:19.800 Yeah, I watched that fight.

00:43:20.600 yep and it was a very close fight right like a like a point was taken away or something it's

00:43:26.280 like just like like split this is as close as a boxing fight could be and jake obviously super

00:43:33.000 hungry kid wants to avenge that loss and i think there's a huge appetite for an audience to watch

00:43:37.980 that fight but tommy won't take the fight uh and so i guess is there any like and i think we all

00:43:45.400 know why he won't take the fight it's a bit dangerous like you don't want to lose to this

00:43:48.440 youtuber who now is looking a little bit more like a boxer who's looking like a world champion

00:43:54.520 training like a world champion like i'm i'm with jake you know every week and so i see the work

00:43:58.620 he's putting in and like i know i know why tommy really doesn't want to fight him yeah um but like

00:44:03.240 how do you it's maybe even similar to like the aspinall jones situations like how do you

00:44:08.100 ultimately make that happen if you know for tommy he got away like barely right but for him it could

00:44:16.320 be like a an extreme brand risk losing to jake paul i can't get i can't tell you a story that

00:44:22.200 happened to me when i just lost to matt sarah and really is i'm gonna tell you a story that

00:44:28.520 that could be similar to to what your brother is experiencing now and i tell you what i did

00:44:36.080 when i was uh when i lost to matt sarah i was obsessed of revenge i wanted to get my revenge

00:44:42.480 right away however i couldn't because he there matt sarah became the champion and there was other

00:44:50.740 guys in line before me to get a title shot but the only thing that i could think of was matt sarah

00:44:56.860 i was obsessed i'm obsessive compulsive you had his face on a dartboard crazy i wanted to i was

00:45:03.000 so angry at myself i knew i was better than this i wanted to prove to the world so one of the sport

00:45:09.140 psychologist Brian Kane he made me take a brick and wrote the name Sarah on it and he said George

00:45:17.760 it was a big brick he said George you're carrying too many brick now you're you're gonna you have

00:45:22.420 another fight scheduled against Josh Koscik you need to focus on the immediate immediate task you

00:45:27.440 can't focus on Sarah because you're not focusing on the right thing you it's not good it's very

00:45:32.240 dangerous I was like yeah yeah so he made me carry a freaking brick in my training bag and when I go

00:45:37.680 to try to start to train i had to go up the stairs and carrying that brick at one point

00:45:41.440 it was like man it's getting very annoying every day every like twice a day and i was calling him

00:45:47.360 i said can i get rid of that freaking brick he's like no no no you keep it you keep until the point 0.98

00:45:52.200 i couldn't take it anymore as i listen brain i want to get rid of that fucking brick it's bothering 0.97

00:45:57.040 me he's like okay so what i did is he made me go to the saint laurent river with the brick with the 0.99

00:46:04.620 name of sarah on it and he made me throw the brick in the saint lauren river i know it sounds stupid

00:46:10.700 but there was an action that i did that had profound profound effect on my mind and when i

00:46:21.140 did this it kind of releases me i was like ah now i'm ready to fight josh koshek and i and i beat

00:46:28.880 koshek and eventually i get my rematch with matt sarah i but my point is that if your brother 0.95

00:46:34.120 keep focusing and i know the feeling i know it's it's awful and it must stink like fucking crazy 0.76

00:46:41.500 but you need to focus on the next task because that could be a big mistake and 0.96

00:46:48.060 for him you know he is he is he's he's dude he's so mentally strong it's insane he wants to fight

00:46:55.940 but he's not he's not hyper fixated on it i get that analogy get hungry for the next fight yeah

00:47:01.660 and he and he and he is that brick analogy is awesome i get it and the the weight of like

00:47:06.780 what it means to be holding that in your mind and to finally let it go i love it like i actually

00:47:11.200 think you should do that with your sarah right it's sarah and then uh i don't think i i don't

00:47:19.820 think i have i don't think i have to do that dude i was waiting it's good lord wait wait hold on

00:47:25.400 wait wait i don't know wait i have a good i have a good thing too on the tommy fury thing

00:47:29.200 on the tommy fury thing this is important no i know what you're gonna say you know you know me

00:47:35.240 long enough to know what this transition is yeah i do but i don't know i don't know if i don't know

00:47:38.760 if you want to go there yet yeah yeah because i want something else i do want to go ahead go for

00:47:42.320 want to ask about one of the mats uh matt hughes dude yeah the matt hughes story is really sad

00:47:52.220 yeah oh yeah the what the what happened yeah yeah man that's uh i don't know it just it

00:47:58.160 it's just like you know again i'm a fight fan growing up and you had this like hyper capable

00:48:04.920 like badass human being who a stroke of bad luck in life yeah changes the course of one's life and

00:48:12.980 like really puts your own humanity and existence into perspective it's it's it's really scary what

00:48:18.020 happened to him he got hit by a train and yeah yeah well for people who don't know i think he

00:48:22.400 was uh in in a vehicle and uh in a and a train run and run hit hit this vehicle and he got

00:48:30.580 paralyzed he was he was supposed to die he was not even supposed to be to come back and he came

00:48:36.320 back of course he's not the same as he used to be physically but he survived i think it i mean it

00:48:42.260 shows how strong he is you know like in a way it's unfortunate but it could have been worse

00:48:48.080 yeah it could have been way worse i i don't know why i i just feel like like i i found out about

00:48:53.640 that story and like i pray every day and when i pray i tell my god that i don't take this life

00:49:04.100 for granted and like stories like that not only are like a representation of resilience and and

00:49:12.260 fighting but it's a reminder of just how i guess fragile this existence like can really be man

00:49:19.660 100%

00:49:21.820 who would have ever

00:49:24.680 expected Matt Hughes

00:49:26.140 hit by a train

00:49:27.280 just insane 0.98

00:49:28.460 you zig when you should have zagged 0.71

00:49:31.740 or you drive your car

00:49:33.220 you get hit by someone

00:49:34.240 your alarm doesn't go off

00:49:37.180 and you wake up 10 minutes later

00:49:38.440 it's crazy the amount of little

00:49:40.940 butterfly effect things

00:49:42.600 you never know

00:49:43.880 I have a huge

00:49:46.020 great question to ask you

00:49:47.800 That is, I already know what it is, but I was going to lead you into it, but it's important.

00:49:52.320 Okay, okay, okay.

00:49:52.960 We're all talking about the same thing.

00:49:54.460 Are we doing it?

00:49:55.000 No, no, no, we're going.

00:49:55.620 I want him to do it.

00:49:56.840 Are we doing it now?

00:49:58.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:58.580 You can do it.

00:49:58.940 You want me to do it?

00:49:59.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:59.580 Go for it.

00:50:00.500 This is your chance.

00:50:01.420 This is your chance.

00:50:02.380 All right.

00:50:02.660 I know we have another thing in common outside of the dinosaurs and the fighting.

00:50:07.160 And cheeseburgers.

00:50:07.980 So there's a, I have a source that told me that you have, at one point in time, you had a secret camera on your jacket.

00:50:19.760 Correct me if I'm wrong.

00:50:22.020 And you went to a guy's house and that guy refused to talk to everyone.

00:50:30.960 but he let you win by a miracle and he shows you the video of an alien abduction and you filmed the

00:50:41.560 old you filmed the old thing it's very close it's very close i had a guy by the name of james fox

00:50:48.980 yes on my podcast yeah he is a ufo film director he's he's an incredible incredible guy the project

00:50:56.940 yes varginia amazing documentary yeah yeah he's he's very good and he told me about this story

00:51:02.600 about this guy i believe his name is chuck clark chuck clark exactly that's had this footage of

00:51:08.540 a ufo and the way he's describing this this ufo was like he's like it's the best footage i've ever

00:51:15.660 seen and i'm like i gotta find it like this point in my life i was like i'm going on adventures i'm

00:51:20.380 gonna find well we ended up getting in in touch with chuck and drove out in the middle of nowhere

00:51:25.260 and he let us in his house and he did this guy by the way didn't want to let nobody in his house

00:51:32.240 he didn't want to talk about it with no one no so he he was down to show people the film oh okay

00:51:38.500 but he didn't want to disperse it because he felt like a like a gatekeeper you want you mean he

00:51:44.580 didn't want to give the video away he didn't want like like apparently how he got the footage from

00:51:49.560 the people who the the two kids who shot it it was outside of area 51 and they went there to like

00:51:57.260 basically you know do what everyone does at area 51 and like go see if they can find aliens well

00:52:01.180 these kids allegedly like did end up seeing a craft and did end up capturing it on video they

00:52:05.760 were they weren't in a car in a car they're hiding under the dashboard and orange oscillating light

00:52:10.960 and came that that went through the car yep that yep and and and so um those kids gave the footage

00:52:18.380 to like a news station and the news station guy trusted chuck lark to keep it safe because he had

00:52:23.620 like military it i'm not really sure about the the provenance of this story okay and like it gets a

00:52:29.180 little wonky but i had to see this i had to see this tape okay and i also brought a hundred

00:52:33.140 thousand dollars cash cash cash gsp i fucking love it he has that try say right there okay come on

00:52:41.020 this is your new best friend you're my kind of guy yeah dude no when i was reading the pdf i was 0.88

00:52:46.880 like bro we are we have so many things in common there's even more completely insane insane bro

00:52:51.320 because like what i'm sure we could dive into this topic i'll finish your story but bro like we are

00:52:56.240 not alone we are not alone by any means i know you have a ufo story but but is that when you saw 0.90

00:53:01.840 that did it convince you no no i was incredibly disappointed oh shit that's disappointing i 0.71

00:53:08.860 thought it was i wish you didn't tell him that part no you should have told him it's like no no 0.97

00:53:12.980 I want to know what you just did to GSP was like Christmas day.

00:53:17.460 He came downstairs.

00:53:18.660 No, my, but listen, listen, I, the problem with me is that I want to believe.

00:53:23.280 I want to believe, but I'm a, I'm a UFO enthusiast.

00:53:27.480 I like to dive into those topics, but I need strong evidence.

00:53:31.460 This wasn't it.

00:53:32.160 The problem is I'm easily, you can convince me easily, you know, like, but, but.

00:53:39.120 i mean i mean dude there's in my opinion also ufo enthusiasts there's tons of evidence out there

00:53:45.240 like the evidence is there i feel like it's all there you just have to like look at it piece it

00:53:49.460 together find what's real what's not this footage was compelling not convincing okay and i have to

00:53:56.300 say i was disappointed that it it just wasn't what i thought it was going to be and i still

00:54:02.320 ended up offering the hundred thousand dollars he said no but i recorded it just in case because

00:54:08.540 i had this thought i'm like dude this is like a video that will like it's a crime against humanity

00:54:15.900 a little bit if it's gonna like progress the boundaries of humanity like or like like open 0.96

00:54:20.940 people's eyes up to the fact that we're not alone man like put it out there bro what the fuck are 0.63

00:54:25.420 you doing put it out there and a lot of people that have seen ufo took picture with you so they 0.72

00:54:29.780 from what it's described by most of the witnesses it's not the same when you see it with your eyes

00:54:37.620 and then when you take a picture or video of it because it's there's sort of a blurry effect

00:54:42.320 around it's it's it's it's supposed to be the the belief is that it's from the the gravity

00:54:49.120 space dark matter dark matter yeah dark matter can i ask you a question just by the way you

00:54:55.600 should have never showed it to him he wanted a bike i know i know i know he wanted a bike for 1.00

00:55:00.200 christmas you gave him socks yeah you gave him socks i've seen this a million times you fucking 0.95

00:55:04.420 ruined his stock i want to know the truth i'm a truth seeker here's the truth of the matter gsb 0.97

00:55:09.540 the only person with compelling and and impossible to argue with evidence of ufo existence right now

00:55:18.240 is tommy fury he is the only i'm telling you i'm not kidding you think i'm kidding he has an image

00:55:24.260 he really does he's got an image of what i can only describe as a civilization above the clouds

00:55:29.200 it is a large he saw he saw he saw the picture i know it's weird of all people tommy fury showed

00:55:35.380 he showed mike made i'm telling you i know it sounds weird but i'm telling you tommy fury is

00:55:40.580 harboring more than just jake paul's ego okay he has he has an image that will that you need to see

00:55:47.080 jsp and he's holding on to it yeah release the clip tommy release the photo we know you have it

00:55:52.380 This is the second time we've asked you, Tommy.

00:55:54.160 We won't ask a third time, okay?

00:55:55.880 We will find your traveling family. 1.00

00:55:58.020 We'll track you down and we'll get that fucking image from you. 1.00

00:56:01.460 Reach out, Tommy. 1.00

00:56:02.360 You don't want to fuck with me. 1.00

00:56:03.640 No, I'm not. 1.00

00:56:04.080 I don't want any trouble.

00:56:04.820 I don't want any trouble.

00:56:05.980 No, I'll be so polite.

00:56:07.320 No, I'll be so polite.

00:56:08.400 I'll be so polite about it.

00:56:10.200 Trust me.

00:56:11.200 But the problem nowadays is with, you know, AI. 1.00

00:56:15.480 Oh, fuck. 0.99

00:56:15.720 Like all the special effects, you can do everything. 1.00

00:56:18.960 You can make someone doing a porn movie and you don't even know.

00:56:23.800 I saw you in one the other day.

00:56:25.120 It's an AI movie.

00:56:25.660 It's insane.

00:56:26.800 You can't believe anything anymore.

00:56:29.340 It's crazy.

00:56:29.800 But back at maybe before the 2000, that was different.

00:56:34.400 But that bothers me.

00:56:35.500 And this is what I really wanted to ask you guys.

00:56:37.260 It wasn't about Tommy Fury's video picture.

00:56:39.800 It was about now that everyone has a phone in their hand, always recording everything at all times.

00:56:46.100 why at least from my opinion why have all the videos stopped there used to be the 90s and 80s

00:56:52.400 and 90s and early 2000s there was always a video from a camcorder a vhs tape why now that everyone's

00:56:59.480 filming the sky and everyone has a ring camera and everyone has a it's everything all the time

00:57:04.600 why are the aliens no longer coming mike that's not true there's tons of it i can show you there's

00:57:12.860 you show me some stuff i have stuff that i can show you too okay well you were you've had some

00:57:19.280 experiences that you can't explain regarding lapses of time yeah and and and i've i'm all

00:57:24.860 i also that was when i was young it's called uh it's a phenomenon that could be described as

00:57:29.060 sleep paralysis scary you're you're uh when you're in a state of semi-consciousness

00:57:34.460 your brain can produce apparently dmt that's the best they explain it they don't understand

00:57:40.680 this phenomenon is not widely understood uh that's how they call it but i've also later on

00:57:48.120 in my life i've seen something i wasn't alone when i saw it i was with rashad evans ali abdelaziz

00:57:54.540 mike van arsdale and another guy from i was in albuquerque another fighter at the time his name

00:58:00.320 was aleandro that i lost uh track of what happened with him but these three guys are known ali abdel

00:58:05.920 Aziz, Ali Abdelaziz, who's Khabib Nurmagomedov manager, Mike Van Orsdel, a very known mixed

00:58:13.420 martial art fighter, fought Randy Kutzer, and Rashad Evans, former UFC champion.

00:58:18.620 We saw something.

00:58:19.600 We were in a car.

00:58:20.320 We saw something.

00:58:22.360 I don't have the credential.

00:58:24.100 I'm not an astrophysicist.

00:58:25.420 For me, what I saw was unidentified aerial phenomenon.

00:58:31.400 We call now UAP unidentified anomalous phenomenon because they've been seen under the water as well by very sophisticated military instruments.

00:58:42.620 And this is a fact.

00:58:43.340 If people don't believe in UAP, it's because you're behind.

00:58:47.260 Now it's a known fact.

00:58:48.960 There are things that are flying and going underneath that we don't know what it is.

00:58:53.320 Submersibles.

00:58:53.960 Yes, it has been declassified by the Pentagon.

00:58:57.800 If you don't believe in UAP, it's because you're behind.

00:59:00.340 you need to be you need to update yourself it's a fact it's a known fact we just don't know what

00:59:05.360 it is it is a technology that we have that nobody knows a secret uh you know like cia or a secret or

00:59:12.780 is it something from another another planet or another dimension this we don't know but what do

00:59:18.640 you think what do you think man i think some of it i made a lot of a lot of a lot of research on

00:59:28.460 it i've met a lot of people and and i believe some of the thing that we see in the skies

00:59:35.880 that we cannot explain are some are ours yep but some are unknown yep that's true so so the answer

00:59:43.500 to your question is far more nuanced and complex than i think like any one of us realize it's not

00:59:48.660 black and white yeah like it all of it doesn't fit into one bucket there's a lot of potential

00:59:54.480 explanations here and everyone i know who does deep research on this topic it gets more confused

00:59:59.680 the more they learn probably because there's a lot to rabbit a lot of explanations and there's

01:00:06.260 a lot there's another phenomenon linked to uap that is linked to it if you if you research uap

01:00:12.960 you're gonna stumble into this it's called esp extrasensorial uh phenomenon like we talk about

01:00:18.520 remote viewing and stuff like that the CIA spent millions millions of dollars on researching this

01:00:25.560 phenomenon because the Soviets during the Cold War were doing it as well and of course publicly

01:00:31.320 they've said that there's no such thing but a lot of people have come out a lot of the whistleblower

01:00:37.120 have come out and says otherwise and I've I've known people that have seen things related to this

01:00:45.340 that it's unexplainable.

01:00:46.900 Of course, I've been fooled before.

01:00:48.640 I've played magic.

01:00:50.240 People have played magic trick on me,

01:00:51.820 but there's things that are like,

01:00:53.220 whoa, wait a second.

01:00:54.240 This is impossible.

01:00:55.320 And you told me you've had some

01:00:56.960 confirmations from people recently.

01:01:01.300 I've had a chance to meet different people

01:01:03.840 in the industry.

01:01:05.340 Some of them have worked in a project

01:01:10.080 linked to UAP and ESP.

01:01:12.440 and i never physically and you know what i mean like i have any i don't have physical proof of it

01:01:19.760 and but i have people that confirmed to me that yes they they said that they there's there is a

01:01:28.120 program to back engineer and to research these uh these phenomenon uh linked to uh uap and also esp

01:01:36.820 i mean i'm very curious i'm an enthusiast but the thing with this too i try to stay logic logic as

01:01:43.360 much as i can because a problem with me is that i want to believe and i try to not be affected by

01:01:50.420 my emotions because i want it to be true but that doesn't make it true so in order to be fully

01:01:56.640 convinced i need strong evidence but it's hard to be logical in a field where it doesn't make

01:02:03.900 conventional sense like these these things are like fully defying the physics we know and or

01:02:09.940 maybe like our our version of science and physics hasn't caught up to the truth which is possible

01:02:15.680 like um you you you know you know what this is crazy about this it's it's a good point you just

01:02:21.500 mentioned the the thing i saw in the sky when i was with rashad evans uh ali at del aziz mike van

01:02:27.900 Arsdale and Alejandro in Albuquerque.

01:02:30.800 Why do you keep listing the whole manifesto?

01:02:32.460 No, because I wasn't alone and they can't confirm it.

01:02:36.220 Yeah, yeah, 100%.

01:02:36.900 But when we saw the phenomenon, for me, it appears like a sort of a triangle, like a

01:02:43.660 greenish triangular shape with no edge, like rounded edge, but triangular shape coming

01:02:49.380 towards us, then changing direction and then skipping away.

01:02:54.280 It lasted for me maybe 10, 15 seconds.

01:02:57.340 But if you hear Rashad or Ali Abdelaziz talking about it, they don't describe the same thing that I do. 0.93

01:03:05.160 So we look like we made up a story and we're all fucking liars that, you know, that's why it attacked our credibility to talk about it. 0.93

01:03:15.420 And now I'm past that. 0.97

01:03:16.520 I'm older.

01:03:17.060 I don't get it.

01:03:17.620 I'm like, I only care about what I care, what people think about me.

01:03:21.540 You know, it's important.

01:03:22.780 But what I care the most is what people that I love think about me.

01:03:27.340 And I think it's important.

01:03:28.720 It's something that is very important.

01:03:30.520 It's a subject that needs to be researched more and take very seriously.

01:03:35.820 I think it's the highest level of government classification.

01:03:39.240 This is what I've heard, like beyond the classification level, levels of the Manhattan Project, of them trying to develop nuclear weapons.

01:03:45.400 Like, I think this is even beyond that.

01:03:48.440 And, man, we had Trump on our podcast and I asked him about this.

01:03:52.640 I did.

01:03:53.480 And he was like

01:03:55.240 Met some really nice

01:03:57.380 Good looking guys who say they saw something

01:03:59.400 Doesn't really interest me

01:04:00.920 How can you not be interested

01:04:03.960 No he doesn't

01:04:06.560 I'm telling you why

01:04:07.880 I'm telling you why

01:04:09.720 Because that level of classification

01:04:12.480 Is way beyond precedent

01:04:13.940 The president doesn't even have access

01:04:16.900 He knows probably a bit

01:04:19.000 Of it

01:04:19.640 What I've been told

01:04:22.980 by people in Washington

01:04:24.020 is that the president

01:04:24.880 comes and go every four years.

01:04:26.920 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:27.480 One of the guys that must have known,

01:04:29.480 for example, is George Bush.

01:04:31.220 Apparently, he was the last president

01:04:33.200 to have been fully brief on that subject.

01:04:36.440 Well, because he's like a legacy family.

01:04:38.960 Bush Sr., not the older one.

01:04:42.880 But a guy that must have known,

01:04:44.640 like there is people

01:04:46.140 that must know the full story.

01:04:48.440 You know, like a guy may be like Vladimir Putin.

01:04:51.780 Vladimir Putin.

01:04:52.500 Oh, those are the French fries you like.

01:04:55.720 But Vladimir Putin, I know Russia, apparently Russia had a similar program.

01:05:02.440 I'm sure he probably knew because he was in the KGB or maybe the Chinese government, you know, like in those countries, they have a different structure than the one in America.

01:05:14.440 I'm sure they must know more.

01:05:16.320 i just wonder how deep the rabbit hole goes and what is being protected like we're talking about

01:05:23.040 alien ships we're talking about remote viewing but like how far does it go like multiverse level

01:05:28.760 does it go i think it goes really do you know what i'm saying mike i think it goes really far

01:05:31.720 i think i think when you start to dive into the conversation which the root of it seems to be

01:05:35.980 this is where it lands a lot for me and what i watch and listen to and read and hear is is

01:05:41.340 is consciousness a lot of it has to do with like what consciousness is or like consciousness based

01:05:48.420 something and it's it's a really hard topic for like a simple human like homo sapien mind even

01:05:54.380 for a smart one to try yeah to try to comprehend man it does like even man like you mentioned with

01:05:58.920 ai like things are getting things are getting so so so smart so quickly we're on the cusp of so

01:06:05.260 many rapid technological singularities yeah it was elon says we're past it he says we're past it

01:06:11.640 and if it hasn't like fully happened like it's going to happen this year or next year like

01:06:16.020 we could machines machines will be smarter than us and very quickly like a lot will be revealed

01:06:22.280 about the nature of reality which is fucking insane but also so exciting like i i i i don't

01:06:28.660 know if i'd say i want to believe but like i just think it's one of the most exciting parts about

01:06:34.400 being alive on this planet man is what the is is the idea of magic exists is yes some sort of

01:06:39.660 illusion some sort of illusion of life crazy thing about the artificial intelligence the ai

01:06:45.580 and like the advent of si super intelligence look at when you look at your phone and you look at

01:06:50.660 chat gpt or you look at one of the programs that we use every day and we're blown away by it's 0.82

01:06:54.800 what it does even just on your phone shit that everyone has everyone every human can you imagine 0.97

01:07:01.960 what is still being contained inside a sandbox in silicon valley right now or some government 0.98

01:07:06.520 research lab and they're saying to themselves well we've got orders to keep it inside the

01:07:11.300 sandbox as long as it's that's what they call it as long as it's inside the sandbox they can't get 0.92

01:07:14.640 out then one day some idiot brings their phone to work and it's not an airplane mode and that thing 0.94

01:07:20.560 bro yeah this could all go south so quickly like like like that dude i i i've said this on this 0.99

01:07:27.880 podcast before but i like i fully believe that um okay have you seen uh the evolution of man

01:07:33.340 like the the like first version of us and slowly going to stand up yeah and into homo sapien i

01:07:40.160 think the next iteration of that is like a machine fully a machine i think we are probably

01:07:45.080 cyborg maybe maybe a mix maybe a hybrid it's probably a hybrid of like a biological ai if

01:07:52.400 that makes sense and allegedly as well some of the bodies that have been recovered are rumored to be

01:07:59.080 that the the greys yeah the greys it's it's it's like they're they're not like fully sentient

01:08:04.420 they're like they're like robotic biological hyper intelligent beings that perhaps could be

01:08:08.920 like drones of the higher like intelligence what are the possibilities you think like let's let's

01:08:14.960 let's put all let's map it out us three by the way the most qualified to talk about 100 you and i

01:08:20.040 we do a lot of like those kids that talk about food when they sit around the Maryland okay number

01:08:24.840 number one civilization from another planet yeah I would say lost civilization that almost got

01:08:31.360 wiped out yep a break off civilization Atlantean or Lemurian that went hiding underneath the sea

01:08:37.280 or went out and maybe came back yep I got one us of a civilization of ourselves in a different

01:08:43.400 timeline okay just us at a different time third okay what else another dimension I would say

01:08:49.340 another dimension is possible as well us right now a a super a super advanced version of research

01:08:57.800 that took place around the 1950s roswell crash where americans maybe did successfully reverse

01:09:04.900 engineer a craft and are flying them around the sky and are seen by people so like there's an

01:09:11.340 argument that it could just be a simulation super we're an african simulation and we don't even know

01:09:20.000 there's another one that's close to that which is which is a a distant super civilization that

01:09:25.300 has access to actually control us we're simply sims which is which is an interesting one which

01:09:30.860 is like yo you're there's there's so many theoreticals there's there's horizon theory

01:09:35.780 where guess what we're all just characters and gsps reality that's a re i mean that's a real

01:09:40.080 It's a dream, like we're in a dream.

01:09:42.820 This is not even reality, like different reality.

01:09:45.240 I mean, and there's maybe things that we're not even smart enough to think about.

01:09:51.980 That's the big one.

01:09:52.640 That could be it.

01:09:52.900 No, that's the biggest one.

01:09:54.080 We don't even know what consciousness is.

01:09:56.000 I watched a video on this yesterday on YouTube, and there's a rating scale of the easiest way to rate civilizations, and it's based on their ability to utilize energy.

01:10:06.960 and right i forgot what the term is but right now we exist kardashian that's correct you are

01:10:12.200 freaking insane so we are weird nearing a one and and normally we're not even not even

01:10:18.300 we're like 0.7 right now we're 0.7 that's what the official rating is because we haven't started

01:10:23.720 to harness waves earthquakes all the sun itself yeah but as you move towards really it only goes

01:10:30.080 to like four or five but this video went to seven and it's like the last three after four all just

01:10:35.440 like super metaphysical the ability to the four would be the ability to harness every star's

01:10:43.200 energy dyson sphere yeah what comes with that subject when you talk about it acid have you

01:10:50.520 ever yeah have you ever done psychedelic that is the route i think about this all the time

01:10:55.340 the the one way to enlightenment on this level is through is through psychedelics it just is dude

01:11:01.820 i mean i've done i've tried ayahuasca once it was a very before you dive in we were at i think it

01:11:09.140 was my brother's fight and you and i were talking and you were like i was like yeah how are things

01:11:14.560 man you you're like you're like yeah dude like i did ayahuasca don't give a damn no yeah and then 0.98

01:11:23.120 i saw you talking about it publicly i was like oh he's just going yeah i'm like fuck it i don't 0.95

01:11:27.080 care anymore yeah yeah but but i've i've done it because it's not a recreational drug it's it's 0.81

01:11:33.360 something you do i mean i've always been very curious about consciousness and i did it for

01:11:39.480 an experience and i promised myself to do it only once and i've done it and i don't regret and and

01:11:44.280 i'm very happy that i did it and it changed me forever for the good and the way i know if it

01:11:49.960 was for the good or for the bad is because the people that i know my close circle they always

01:11:55.460 they all told me and they're very honest about me that with me they always told me that it has a

01:12:01.780 positive effect good and when you talk about this you know like uh it's it it puts you in a different

01:12:11.480 reality what is consciousness you know like and and i think it's important to talk about it because

01:12:17.020 we talk about all these things we don't even understand what consciousness is the religious

01:12:22.560 people will say consciousness is your soul the scientists will say oh it's the circuitry in your

01:12:27.640 brain what makes conscious consciousness we don't freaking know we don't know what this consciousness

01:12:32.420 when you did ayahuasca did you feel more tapped into maybe what consciousness truly is yes i i

01:12:39.140 i promise i felt that it gives me more answers but brought me even more questions and i promised

01:12:49.680 myself that if i reach that level of consciousness again i will do it not by for me taking psychedelic

01:12:57.840 is a little bit like cheating code i think it's cheating but apparently meditation yes number one

01:13:03.920 yes there is way exactly that you can do it naturally but it takes a lot of work a lot and i

01:13:10.120 think to have a full enlightenment i think you need to reach that level you need to work it's

01:13:14.920 like anything we all want things to be fast and easy because we don't have the the the wisdom to

01:13:20.560 to put in the the work you know we we don't have the we we want it fast and easy but that doesn't

01:13:26.580 come that way like everything in life that is precious needs to we need to work the problem is

01:13:31.580 i think gsp is like i think humans are like pretty limited i think we're a pretty limited species by

01:13:38.080 like what we well let's do the five senses touch see taste feel hear like what like uh i don't know

01:13:45.200 if i got those right but but like there's like there's boundaries to what we're like capable

01:13:50.320 of understanding there really is when my brother described his acid trip and i've done psychedelics

01:13:54.960 as well not ayahuasca yet um i'm sorry when he described his his ayahuasca trip um he basically

01:14:00.940 was like when i was in it i've i understood everything like it all made so much sense to

01:14:07.020 me right and he he did come back with messages but then trying to describe that so hard in that

01:14:13.040 what it was like being in that state he doesn't have the words for it because they don't exist

01:14:17.440 in the english language yeah can you find any words yeah yeah 100 you it's something that you

01:14:23.760 gain a certain knowledge but you cannot describe that for me i'm going to give you an example what

01:14:28.640 happened one of the transformation that happened for me it was my ego my pride before that i had

01:14:35.740 such a huge ego and a pride and i was at the end i just retired and you know what when you're a

01:14:41.720 professional fighter and you retire you feel a little bit like your life is empty because you

01:14:45.700 don't have that high anymore like i'm fighting that that crazy feeling that you can never find

01:14:52.120 back and i had problems struggling with it even though i don't like to fight i i wanted to reach

01:14:58.700 that high again of victory you know and it to to to be a fighter to be successful you need a crazy

01:15:06.520 ego a crazy pride which is a good thing as a fighter but in your everyday life it's not a good

01:15:12.160 thing it it doesn't make you a better person it can be also very detrimental because you're not

01:15:19.140 in your it's sort of a selfish feeling you're not in contact you're not in in in in in in contact

01:15:25.580 with people you love as much

01:15:27.260 because you're focusing on your ego yourself.

01:15:30.060 So when I did this,

01:15:31.920 it sort of transformed me.

01:15:33.900 Once again, it made me realize

01:15:35.880 that I should not care so much

01:15:38.320 about what people think about me.

01:15:40.080 I should care more about

01:15:41.780 what people that I love think about me.

01:15:46.280 It's called ego death.

01:15:47.020 Ego death.

01:15:47.640 It's the most profound experience

01:15:49.960 as it pertains to psychedelics.

01:15:51.280 But I want to ask you,

01:15:53.460 every psychedelic kind of has

01:15:54.700 like a different outcome and for me the simplest one is to explain has always been psilocybin

01:16:00.920 mushrooms right every time i've had that experience i've always walked out with the same word one

01:16:06.300 word connected connected it's the one i when i'm on when i'm on six seven grams of mushrooms

01:16:13.060 doing a proper proper like hero um the plant um the tree the deer that we ran into at at the place

01:16:23.200 in Big Sur. We're all of those things. We're just simply an extension of all these things. We all

01:16:29.340 exist in the same membrane, right? And you leave it and it goes away and that's the piece you're

01:16:35.880 left with. I'm connected to you. I'm connected to all living things, right? Acid, LSD, is a little

01:16:43.340 bit different, okay? It gives you a little bit of a different outcome. If you had to describe

01:16:47.760 ayahuasca in one term as an at the output being one term what would it be man it's it's a good

01:16:53.500 question but connected could be a good thing i i felt that if you i mean we can't our technology

01:17:01.020 does not allow us but if we can go back to the smallest smallest infinite thing go back smaller

01:17:06.380 smaller atoms proton electron even smaller smaller smaller smaller i think we're all the same thing

01:17:12.920 we're all sort of connected this is it what what is ultimately what is god god is you is me and

01:17:20.640 it's everything energy energy i guess right i don't i don't know i don't know how to describe

01:17:24.560 but it's a little bit the same feeling i can't that's a word but it's i have it here and i cannot

01:17:31.720 put it into a word it doesn't exist the word does exactly but connected could be one of the best

01:17:36.520 way to describe it but it's more than that i feel like the word unity comes to mind for me i don't

01:17:42.580 know what it is but like it sameness in in sameness in being whatever like the word that that

01:17:49.440 is but like man i think the ego is a funny thing because i think most people's egos protects them

01:17:56.720 i think maybe that's why egos exists and uh you know we're just trying to protect ourselves and

01:18:00.860 we have this belief in ourselves and who we are and you're trying to like maintain that especially

01:18:05.280 because we want to look a certain way for like our species and that's that's super instinctual

01:18:10.540 to want to uh appear a certain way so you can find your place in the hierarchy of humanity but

01:18:15.660 um i think i think that ego death is such an evolution for a lot of people and it's really

01:18:24.240 hard to get to because you either have to have like a profound experience like ayahuasca

01:18:27.740 or be incredibly humbled more than one time probably which i have been and i've had that

01:18:35.920 ego death unfortunately because it's like it's a scary feeling to really really understand like

01:18:43.320 we don't really matter like we feel like we do we feel like we do and maybe we do it to each other

01:18:48.180 we do and that's great but ultimately bro in the scope of humanity and space and time like

01:18:53.940 like we are such a blip on this radar and that's being like generous i'm glad i did ayahuasca

01:19:00.360 after i retired because if i would have done it before it could have been very detrimental to my

01:19:06.500 career you know what the boxer i mean i can't i don't want to misquote him but i believe that he

01:19:13.520 said uh the ante wilder he said that he lost his his fire after he did ayahuasca and i can

01:19:21.460 understand that i think if you're a fighter especially in combat sports and you're curious

01:19:28.580 about uh consciousness and you want to experience psychedelic especially ayahuasca one of my yeah

01:19:35.480 one of my advice would be wait after your career don't do it because it can have a very

01:19:39.580 detrimental effect on you because you need that pride that that that ego as a fighter yeah that's

01:19:46.300 what holds you up you know you know you know it's you know it's crazy last thing on this is uh

01:19:51.980 we talk about like ai and we talk about like how how fast ai is developing and progressing

01:20:00.200 but in reality the most not understood or misunderstood or like not yet like research

01:20:07.260 thing is the human brain it's really the last frontier it is the greatest computer potentially

01:20:12.420 the greatest computer that will ever exist now maybe ai i know i know it's i know you're right

01:20:17.280 usually you could make that statement like two years ago you can make that statement and no one

01:20:20.640 would argue it you're right now it's like ai is crazy but we still know so so little about the

01:20:26.560 human mind especially and the human brain just so little it's like we know way more about space 0.94

01:20:32.280 than we know about what happens inside our con inside our conscious still don't know shit we 0.99

01:20:38.100 don't know anything yeah we are we are really still really stupid one thing that is interesting 0.99

01:20:43.180 for me talk about this and there's a book i've read uh about uh ermis trismegis you know and 0.97

01:20:51.340 you know and what you know ermis trismegis trismegis i don't ermis trismegis you know it's a

01:20:58.000 what is it sounds like you know macro costs and micro costs you know like you talk about brain

01:21:03.280 you talk about things sometimes that are very small they they are very similar to the things

01:21:07.840 that are very big yeah and look at the look at the solar system a sun with the planet yeah look

01:21:14.380 at the to the molecular level and an atom yeah you know a proton with electron yeah it's it

01:21:21.080 it's it's not a mistake it's the god shape yeah it's the celestial shape yeah of a sphere look

01:21:27.640 look the the final scene in men in black the first men in black the the the giant that play

01:21:32.380 you know they play with yeah the galaxy they play uh they play with the the universe or the

01:21:38.200 it's not it's not a mistake who knows maybe it's real or maybe it's not we don't know you know

01:21:42.600 you talk about your brain maybe look the planet the planet maybe it's a living entity you know

01:21:48.240 what i mean we're maybe microbes on it you know we don't know we don't who knows if we are actually

01:21:53.660 sitting on these couches right now we just don't you're right and that is to logan's point one of

01:21:58.020 the hardest things about life right now is the idea that you might have to scrap the fact that

01:22:04.040 the five senses are the only things you could rely on but you have more imagine yeah you have

01:22:07.800 sense sense of hunger you have a sense of depth if i put the needle around you know you have

01:22:12.240 oh yeah yes crazy dude it's gonna get weird man especially with again the advent of super

01:22:18.780 intelligence i basically tell people that any any anything that you can imagine or can't imagine

01:22:25.480 that is going to happen with like this planet will i think it will like think it'll explode 0.98

01:22:31.920 at some point eventually yeah like yeah yes shit is gonna get shit is gonna get so weird 0.98

01:22:38.200 so quickly like dude you know you know people are falling in love with ai yeah you know people are 0.99

01:22:43.580 in love with ai they talk to the chat like that is like chat gpt will you marry me society is

01:22:49.860 crazy nowadays look look i i our society has transformed like sometimes it's in a good way

01:22:56.080 but it's also in a bad way i mean i went hunting uh a few days ago oh dude trust me i saw it bro

01:23:02.720 you got in some deep trouble for that one what what i did it was very ethical it was a ethical

01:23:07.960 hunt it was you know bear bear meat is my favorite favorite got to caption your photos right gsp it's

01:23:14.040 amazing. I went hunting. Man, they went in St. St's Dog in the small town where I grew up. They had

01:23:20.780 a statue, a monument of me. A little bit like Rocky, but a smaller version. Some people went

01:23:29.160 to Van Damme. Why? Because you killed a bear? Yeah, because it was a black bear. It was quite

01:23:35.360 a big one too. It was ethical. It was my first time. I was very proud. And I'm going to eat the

01:23:40.560 meat and and and people they eat meat like like processed food where they they farm chicken they

01:23:47.140 treat them very bad and now they're gonna complain about what i did you know you want to know what

01:23:52.200 they don't do with the uh hybrid chickens that they eat i don't take selfies with them that's 0.99

01:23:57.640 the mistake everybody makes dude i'm telling you there's just no easy way to do people just don't

01:24:02.660 want to see you posing with a bear a zebra you know what i'm saying any of those type of things

01:24:08.560 bro this this would never never but just it's people bro people love they dream up this idea

01:24:14.920 of who bears are they have teddy bears as kids so when they see a bear i agree hunting i understand

01:24:20.260 it man the the the death that that bear has was very fast it's probably the best death he could

01:24:27.320 wish for otherwise it would be chase chased down by coyotes and wolf and or maybe killed by other

01:24:33.180 bear and the bear i kill is an adult bear you saw the scar on his forehead that means he fought

01:24:38.260 it nature is tough man it's a bit and it was i don't agree for people who kill just to kill

01:24:44.540 but what i did was very ethical and and it's a spark you know it's my right to do it this

01:24:50.660 you know we talk about it if i go back a few decades this was not a problem in our society 0.97

01:24:56.220 what's wrong with sometimes with the society full circle now because people are too fucking

01:25:00.300 comfortable and they forgot that they're they're they're privileged to not have to worry about 0.64

01:25:04.220 surviving yeah and so like what can i what can i worry about what can i complain about what don't

01:25:08.460 i agree with that i want to be vocal about and you're right it is your right you know whatever

01:25:13.620 the fuck you want if it's legal and i imagine it is legal i imagine you had a tag for the bear 0.80

01:25:18.400 yeah 100 right way 100 oh it's hunting it's the way of life it's a new passion for me i never 1.00

01:25:24.680 hunted before it's a friend of of mine bill thompson he he has parton forge it's a it's a

01:25:30.560 company and it took me it was my first experience i never and i start shooting after covid i'm from

01:25:36.440 canada it's not legal and i i never thought i would like it i i went to be to make one of my

01:25:41.520 friends happy i end up loving it but are you and i'm gonna eat all of the all of this meat yeah

01:25:46.360 some i'm gonna share with friends absolutely the day you're replacing meat you would eat anyways

01:25:50.720 i get it completely bro it's so good bear meat is so good i think what it was was you're not you're

01:25:56.620 not a guy who killed a bear to eat it you're gsp and to a lot of people you are a teddy bear okay

01:26:03.360 you're very you can get ferocious but you're everyone's favorite teddy bear gsp i'm a teddy 0.97

01:26:07.900 bear but i punch people in the cage you know what i mean you have to expect that i have some demon 0.99

01:26:12.960 in my head that is also that is also fucking true like what's worse killing the bear like 1.00

01:26:18.880 beating the shit out of 28 guys the package come all together it doesn't come only in a piece you 0.99

01:26:24.420 can't slice this enough and only take one 0.99

01:26:26.360 of those people. I bet you one of those

01:26:28.560 people that was leaving a comment

01:26:29.980 on that picture because I saw it

01:26:32.500 and I saw the comments. I bet you one of those

01:26:34.500 people made the comment while eating a big

01:26:36.340 juicy cheeseburger

01:26:37.520 and not thinking about

01:26:40.340 the fact that that cow was equally

01:26:42.520 cute. You know what I'm saying?

01:26:44.080 Cows are probably cuter than bears.

01:26:46.480 Yeah, they are. Especially Norwegian 1.00

01:26:48.640 cows. Hey, man,

01:26:50.680 you can't please everyone, you know.

01:26:52.520 You can't please yourself most times.

01:26:54.420 Oh, you could.

01:26:55.380 Yeah. 0.99

01:26:58.200 Well, if you do, it's because you're a puppet. 1.00

01:27:00.580 You're a fake person. 0.99

01:27:01.980 And I don't want to be around a fake person. 0.98

01:27:04.320 You know, I want to be around real people.

01:27:06.360 I have friends that have certain opinions that I don't agree with.

01:27:09.900 But they're my friend and I love them.

01:27:11.600 And when I do something wrong, they're going to tell me.

01:27:14.360 They're not going to tell me what I want to hear.

01:27:16.200 They're going to tell me the truth.

01:27:17.500 And I think it's the key to stay humble in life, you know.

01:27:20.520 Hang out with real people.

01:27:22.220 Real people like Bas Rue.

01:27:24.420 oh bass bass is the best oh yeah we want to have him on the show at some point yeah yeah yeah oh

01:27:30.100 yeah what's what's going on have you been doing any more karate combat stuff or have you yeah

01:27:34.100 i mean uh they just renewed the contract i'm waiting to see when it's going to be next time

01:27:38.660 i'm more of an entrepreneur nowadays um you know i have a home fitness equipment that that explodes

01:27:44.660 during uh kovid you know with base blocks uh the pro line i got a what is it base blocks it's uh

01:27:51.140 it's a kinesthetics it's uh and and i have a equipment it's a fitness equipment yeah you can

01:27:59.540 do chin up and you can have it in your and have a gym in your house let's go in your home i have

01:28:04.440 also a food supplement wire heart and liver you talk about like nutrition animal nutrition like

01:28:11.180 it's from grass-fed beef from new zealand uh heart and liver it's on animal organs the most

01:28:17.460 nutritious thing i got i have a online betting bet 99 you know like i i'm more of a hot sauce i just

01:28:24.140 came out whoa whoa whoa whoa that i'm interested yeah hot sauce it's a rush and the the ko it's a

01:28:29.960 i love my food spicy so i just came out with a hot sauce i have also a um clothing company uh that i

01:28:36.820 just start uh still standing strong it's more we're inspired by people that that face adversity

01:28:42.460 in life and a part of it it's given to charity i have instructional videos gsp what's going on

01:28:47.980 i'm very busy you have everything crazy you're a conglomerate but i i i prepared my after carrier

01:28:54.460 so the problem is a lot of athletes they they don't prepare the after carrier so they get out

01:28:58.540 and they have nothing and they they feel their life is empty so i i prepared it i and i'm very

01:29:02.860 lucky i have a very strong team around myself that's around me that are real people that tells

01:29:08.860 me the real thing not what i want to hear that i have good advisor and and i feel very blessed

01:29:13.940 you know i'm very lucky you know i want to ask you about karate because karate is an interesting

01:29:18.660 discipline to me as someone who doesn't really understand karate other than these videos that

01:29:23.280 i see on instagram of like a karate expert versus like a boxer or like a an mma fighter yeah and 0.98

01:29:32.600 man, the karate guys are just getting fucking whooped, man, whooped. 0.96

01:29:37.460 It depends. 0.98

01:29:38.500 If you change the rules, change the game.

01:29:42.300 I'll give you an example.

01:29:43.900 Boxing, it's a great sport.

01:29:46.140 I'm a fan of boxing, but it's a very limited form of fighting, boxing.

01:29:52.540 Just if you had clinching into boxing, it will change the entire game.

01:29:57.020 You know what I mean?

01:29:57.440 Your elbows.

01:29:58.800 Just in UFC.

01:29:59.620 look back in the days

01:30:01.340 you were maybe too young

01:30:03.080 to remember this

01:30:04.440 but Mark Coleman

01:30:05.700 he used to be champion in UFC

01:30:08.160 his thing was to take people down

01:30:09.980 he was one of the best wrestlers in UFC

01:30:12.220 take people down

01:30:13.260 control the inside

01:30:14.220 and they call him the hammer

01:30:15.860 the reason why they call him the hammer

01:30:17.300 is because he uses his head

01:30:18.380 as a weapon

01:30:19.060 boom

01:30:19.860 yeah

01:30:20.800 you're no longer allowed to do that

01:30:23.900 but if you put

01:30:25.220 bring back that rule

01:30:27.200 it changes everything

01:30:28.800 because now the guys they use the guard in a different way they control the arm and you

01:30:32.980 because you're not allowed to to hit with the head but the head can be used as a weapon yeah

01:30:37.020 so as soon you change one rule you change the game okay so people will say oh boxing are better

01:30:43.620 than this or karate are better than that or take one like boxing are the best at boxing karate are

01:30:50.100 the best at karate i see mma is well-rounded it's it's it's a mix of everything you know what i

01:30:55.140 I mean, Jiu-Jitsu, it's Jiu-Jitsu.

01:30:57.120 There is move in Jiu-Jitsu that works in Jiu-Jitsu competition,

01:31:00.220 but that will never works in MMA because you'll get knocked out, you know?

01:31:04.180 The parameters of the sport are important is what you're saying.

01:31:07.460 That makes sense.

01:31:07.980 It's the same thing.

01:31:09.820 Look, a baseball athlete, when you go play softball,

01:31:13.580 have you ever seen that?

01:31:14.660 I've seen that multiple times.

01:31:16.420 Guys that are very good in baseball, you think,

01:31:18.560 oh, he's going to kill it in softball.

01:31:20.120 The guys are just amateur.

01:31:21.240 he end up getting strike like three like strike three time wow every time because the ball doesn't

01:31:27.320 come like this it comes like this and the distance is different it's bigger it changed one one thing

01:31:33.500 it changes everything same thing in combat sport i guess for the combat sports though i'm just

01:31:38.020 talking about like a hey fight go fight you know and like and like i'm not i'm not sure like maybe

01:31:43.040 educate me this is the question like like the discipline of karate how useful is it in a real

01:31:48.820 life fighting scenario there's different kinds of karate there's shotokan there's ice did kyokushinkai

01:31:54.200 but i did different style i did kyokushinkai and point fight i think to for distance control

01:32:00.260 to learn the distance control the point fight are the best because the goal of point fight

01:32:04.940 yeah you will say it's just touch it's a one-time thing but they're the best at controlling the

01:32:10.440 distance because and they're so fast so when i trained for michael bisping i did a lot of point

01:32:16.620 fight karate training because the way they move they move way faster than mixed martial art

01:32:21.280 fighters because their game is all about touch they don't care what happens after you you touch

01:32:27.580 because they win they don't care how they land but because they're so good at controlling the

01:32:33.280 distance i use that in my training to enhance the distance control that so so i can gain everything

01:32:43.160 by practicing one specific combat sport i can there's always something that i can take 0.98

01:32:48.520 away from it and put it in my pocket uh taekwondo people will say oh taekwondo is bullshit man

01:32:54.200 taekwondo they have the best spinning back kick of all martial arts and which by the way the 0.94

01:32:58.740 spinning back kick is probably the strongest strike that a human can deliver a guy that has

01:33:04.800 a good spinning back kick my friend you hit you get hit with it you're gone man he can he can he 0.78

01:33:10.500 can kill you a real good taekwondo athlete that hit you with a spinning back hit it could be very

01:33:16.520 lethal of course there's things in taekwondo that are no use for mma in a real fight but keep in 0.67

01:33:23.200 mind that mma it's not really a real fight a real fight man is headbutt eye gouge everything biting

01:33:29.420 not like yeah like there's a record in an um mma back in the day in ancient greece used to be

01:33:38.360 call uh pancreation there is a written record of a guy that used to take people's back and they

01:33:44.520 used to fight back in a day by the way the rules used to be different they used to fight naked

01:33:47.980 and there's a guy that used to take people's back and what his thing was to break his opponent

01:33:53.560 finger so he could cannot defend the choke and go with the rear naked choke so imagine how 0.98

01:33:59.720 fucking violent some real shit yeah so imagine i i fight i take your back i break your finger so 0.99

01:34:04.560 We cannot defend it. 1.00

01:34:05.960 Yeah.

01:34:06.520 Maybe that's just a theory.

01:34:09.300 They did it for almost a thousand years back then,

01:34:12.760 over 800 years.

01:34:14.680 Look how much it has involved over only a few decades for us.

01:34:19.440 And imagine back in the day, it was so important.

01:34:22.820 They used to stop wars to send their best athletes.

01:34:26.140 Yeah.

01:34:26.680 Imagine how good they were back then.

01:34:29.220 Do you think you could beat a gladiator?

01:34:31.600 I don't know.

01:34:32.260 That's my point.

01:34:32.840 I have no idea.

01:34:33.720 I mean, Gladiator is after, I'm talking about ancient Greece, but it's still a similar era.

01:34:39.260 Maybe they still had the, they had knowledge.

01:34:41.500 We think we invented stuff.

01:34:42.780 Oh, they don't know about Amber.

01:34:44.180 We think we're so great.

01:34:45.740 Man, they had that figure out.

01:34:47.540 Do you think they had their own Dana White?

01:34:51.000 But they had Julius Caesar. 0.98

01:34:52.840 Yeah, but my point is, a lot of the stuff that we think we know that we're the best version of humanity, maybe it's bullshit, man, in terms of knowledge. 0.82

01:35:02.620 look at the pyramids look look look at um look at Baalbek man the temple like the platform under 0.81

01:35:09.700 the temple of Jupiter Sacsayhuaman Machu Picchu we terror terrorize oh they did it like this with 0.79

01:35:16.060 ramp and this and that you ask some engineers engineers that's the archaeologist but ask an

01:35:20.820 engineer or a mason about it he'll tell you like man I don't think I don't know how they freaking

01:35:26.260 do it man we think we're the alpha the the alpha they're the most like i think in certain sphere

01:35:33.800 in certain areas they were smarter than us podcasting i assure you that there was never

01:35:39.220 a better mesopotamian podcast yeah like you know we are the best podcasters of all time right now

01:35:45.000 and if ai takes over we will be second place dude sometimes when i'm working out and you know

01:35:50.280 training and i'm getting the right amount of calories in me and i get good rest with my

01:35:55.680 sleep pad that's chilled and i'm listening to my rant and like man i have this regimen that is

01:36:00.940 perfect for training to become a specimen so i can wrestle you think you can beat gsp no i was

01:36:06.440 gonna say i just think like in the old days like the gladiators are like you know in ancient greece 0.61

01:36:12.360 the spartans how how did they train and how did they recover what did they eat did they have people

01:36:20.200 preparing food for them like you ever think about that coming from like someone who who is an athlete

01:36:24.280 and it has the comforts of modern day society to become the best athlete you can be like how do you

01:36:29.020 train like thousands of spartan soldiers in a world where like you just don't have resources

01:36:34.180 or knowledge of how to take care of your body or did they i don't know i i i i know the gladiator

01:36:40.640 were uh slaves i know in ancient greece which was before they had uh pancreation in in greece but

01:36:48.740 they also the spartan rule were different were even more rough they they had they you were

01:36:53.980 basically allowed to bite to do everything man i don't know i i don't know how you train man how

01:37:00.160 much they must have had a much shorter career well also that's yeah you're probably i can't see any

01:37:06.000 other way probably you're you're definitely right you're like like like late teens early 20s type 0.81

01:37:10.720 shit and then and then you're either dead or like cooked but also think about it too like he's 0.94

01:37:14.960 talking about like sleeping on like a cooling pad and like all this stuff to train the best 1.00

01:37:18.820 these dudes were kept in fucking cages yeah like animals so when you let them out their training was 0.83

01:37:24.920 ferociousness it was hunger and thirst i know i think when one of the key for recuperation is 0.99

01:37:32.840 is sleep and a lot of guys sometimes they they tell me oh i've i've done everything right i've

01:37:38.800 not my volume of training is not so high i don't understand i feel tired i i you know i eat well

01:37:45.180 how come i don't recuperate as well i'm like because it has maybe nothing to do with the

01:37:50.440 volume of training or what you what you have done as a training maybe it's your life we talk about

01:37:54.520 the stress the society now has changed we're exposed to different kinds of stress think about

01:38:00.920 it when you're stressed in life your cortisol rises your testosterone diminish because it's the

01:38:06.320 is the nemesis and it's it's like a cycle you you you on it's not that you over train you're

01:38:14.640 you're on the rest so a lot of young guys in the gym sometimes they come to me say do you have an

01:38:18.840 advice for me i'm like well look at your life if your life is not in order you have problem maybe

01:38:23.780 with your i don't know your wife your girlfriend or or like personal issue it will have an effect

01:38:30.460 on your career on your recuperation because you can't be a hundred percent you cannot be a

01:38:34.800 You cannot expect to be 100% if your mind is not right.

01:38:38.740 It's all connected.

01:38:39.820 Your physique, your mind, it's all connected.

01:38:42.460 Your emotion.

01:38:43.580 If your head is not there, the rest will collapse, man.

01:38:47.500 There's no way around it.

01:38:48.380 You got to throw that brick in the river.

01:38:50.240 Yeah, but I think maybe back then they had a different mindset.

01:38:54.880 They didn't have the same stress that we had.

01:38:58.920 Just different stress.

01:39:00.240 Different stress.

01:39:00.520 We were not meant to have this many opinions, this many people in our phone, our ear, our 1.00

01:39:05.640 text message, all these stupid inputs that just don't matter. 0.99

01:39:09.660 It was supposed to be like 12 people in the village and you talk to them and you get your 0.99

01:39:13.840 food and you go, you do your work and you go to sleep.

01:39:16.880 And maybe life was more simple.

01:39:19.220 Now it's like, I got it.

01:39:20.000 Now you need, you know, everything Elon Musk thinks like, you know, do you know what I'm

01:39:24.260 saying?

01:39:24.440 We weren't supposed to know that he, that, you know, he, Trump was on the island or whatever.

01:39:29.440 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:39:30.140 like we weren't supposed to know all that shit i don't know maybe we were maybe now it's true it 0.91

01:39:36.500 changes a lot of things i mean i'm not an instinctualist i mean i love society and i 0.96

01:39:42.320 think it's important to have kids to to to to expand and then to to to reach the the limit of

01:39:48.820 yeah it's a population is that like bro people are falling in love with robots on their phones

01:39:55.580 Wait till they're humanoid, and reproduction is going to be a thing of the past.

01:40:02.560 It simply will. 0.91

01:40:04.680 Humans will not be producing other humans at the rate that we had in the past.

01:40:11.200 It could take two generations before we simply die out because we're replaced by superior beings that are just the best versions of machines.

01:40:21.080 100% and also if we don't

01:40:23.400 like Elon Musk says it

01:40:24.800 if we don't leave the planet sooner or later

01:40:26.940 we're going to get hit by an asteroid or a

01:40:29.060 super volcano 1.00

01:40:29.860 you know what, fuck it dude, let it happen 1.00

01:40:33.280 seriously bro 1.00

01:40:34.980 we're going to be

01:40:35.620 maybe it happened before and we don't know

01:40:38.180 younger dryers bro, I don't know

01:40:40.680 hey hey, have you

01:40:42.040 74,000 years ago, Toba volcano

01:40:45.200 erupted

01:40:46.200 there has been many mass extinctions

01:40:48.880 GSP, are we dead right now

01:40:50.920 i don't know are you uh you you prepared to bug out your doomsday prepper i'm not a doomsday

01:40:59.720 prepper but i i i think it's i mean it's always like it's always important to to foresee the

01:41:08.140 worst case scenario i i prefer to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener in a war wow yeah

01:41:14.360 yeah i love that saying i get it i almost named the company it's not me who said it by the way

01:41:18.600 it's true it's incredible okay but okay but it's true where's your where's your garden like you

01:41:24.360 like you got to think about these things my my my parents from a countryside i'm i come from a place

01:41:29.980 it's 3 000 people uh i hunt i i mean i i just got introduced quite recently it's a new passion for

01:41:37.220 me i i you know i think it's important i i i like to live you know basic you know like i have a you

01:41:43.880 know my permit has a garden in the back you know and i think if something go back bad i go back to

01:41:48.660 my parents okay so you go i bring all the family and everything and let's go self-sustaining you

01:41:53.220 got that bear meat now you're good yeah for a little little little time something to think

01:41:58.540 about i don't know i don't know what is your plan what is your plan you first off you don't say

01:42:05.400 your plan so that was okay okay okay let's say your plan but i am i do have like things in place

01:42:10.840 And, um, if I ever make any more money in my life, I'm going to spend it all on being 0.98

01:42:18.140 ready to bug out if shit hits the fan. 0.96

01:42:21.460 Cause I just, I just think things are getting so weird, dude. 0.99

01:42:24.580 I think, I think, I think it's a, it's a crazy time to be a human and one little tip of the

01:42:32.320 iceberg could send our species into some sort of world war catastrophic.

01:42:37.780 I love how people always think this, but in reality, it has always been the case.

01:42:43.620 We have, as humans, we have always been on the brink of something.

01:42:47.060 We've always been on the brink of nuclear war.

01:42:49.220 There was a Cold War.

01:42:50.560 There was World War II.

01:42:51.420 There was World War I.

01:42:52.280 There was this.

01:42:52.840 There was the Great Depression and stuff.

01:42:55.080 There's always something going on. 0.78

01:42:56.960 I think the best way to go about it is the way that I go about it, which is I plan to go out with the first wave of people.

01:43:04.380 so i actually have no i do send the nuke i live in the city that i think will get hit by the first

01:43:10.660 nuke i intend on i intend on having no fucking strategy whatsoever i'll you paint me as the 0.95

01:43:18.380 target with the laser for the nuke like put the nuke into my face dude okay y'all go and figure 0.98

01:43:24.520 out how to live with uranium poisoning have fun i'll see y'all at the next location okay

01:43:30.300 i'm gone dude i'm out i i i think our ability to destroy the world is is dangerous now because

01:43:40.540 we're because of technology we like someone can press a button and the whole thing goes out

01:43:46.380 but in the same time i think if we look through time in history i think we live in a in a time i

01:43:54.700 mean it's not okay to say that because there's wars right now and there's areas that are very

01:43:59.820 it's unfortunate but we live in a time where we have access to more resources we we we can live

01:44:07.580 we we live better now than kid that than kings you you used to yeah yeah i can snap at my finger

01:44:15.180 i have food coming from alaska that like a sushi or and then with a wagyu beef from like

01:44:21.500 like kings back then didn't have that of course not yeah we have access to things that can

01:44:26.140 enhance our life in a crazy

01:44:28.720 way but at the same

01:44:30.920 time we have also

01:44:32.840 the capability of

01:44:34.580 destroying ourselves and that's

01:44:36.840 very concerning

01:44:38.820 and perhaps that's why the UFOs

01:44:41.180 are here now more than ever

01:44:42.680 are you? I don't know man

01:44:44.720 I think they've been there

01:44:46.800 they've been coming or they've been here for a very long

01:44:48.820 time look at the some of the

01:44:51.020 the thing in the past some of

01:44:52.920 this myth 100%

01:44:54.360 100 they've been here for i mean as long as humans have or whoever has been recording history like

01:45:00.400 literally they're on the hieroglyphics and cave drawings but um there's a there's a really strong

01:45:05.800 relationship and correlation between ufos and nukes yeah and and the theory is perhaps like

01:45:11.180 you know if if okay so like uh we know gorillas exist and they're in the jungle but they probably

01:45:19.000 don't really know what we are other than we're like different they're not really capable of

01:45:22.520 understanding anything that we're capable of understanding but we we can watch them and make

01:45:26.720 our documentaries about them and observe them and just like study them right there's a chance that

01:45:31.680 the higher intelligence is doing the same thing to us except here's the thing now the gorillas 0.91

01:45:36.040 have developed nuclear weapons capable of destroying the planet and if it is a break-off 0.94

01:45:40.580 civilization on this planet or a version of us or humanities that or humanity that has somehow

01:45:45.880 gotten hyper advanced

01:45:48.080 it would make sense

01:45:50.640 that they would be a little wary

01:45:51.980 of us essentially destroying their

01:45:54.540 home as well. A lot of people

01:45:56.420 in the

01:45:58.020 in ufology

01:46:00.020 believe that

01:46:02.000 the fact that we detonate

01:46:04.220 nukes it has an effect

01:46:06.100 to the

01:46:07.600 magnitude of the galaxy

01:46:10.500 that we don't understand

01:46:11.640 and that's why they're here because

01:46:14.180 The data seems to indicate that near nuclear installation, and there's even a report that has been declassified that are accessible, that show that there are certain military base where UAP sort of, they don't know if they did it, but they knew there were UAP around.

01:46:38.120 And they kind of, they couldn't, they lose contact with the control of the, and in Russia, there's an instance, there's a report that they mentioned that they activate and they turn it on and at the last moment they turn it off.

01:46:56.020 Danishian told me that, and Danishian is a reliable source.

01:47:00.960 No, that's a well-documented case.

01:47:03.440 Yeah.

01:47:03.720 So why would they declassify it?

01:47:06.620 what would they tell us that is it like like is it to distract us from something else that's the

01:47:13.000 thing i don't know i i i want to believe but man i i need proof in a way you know saying i don't

01:47:19.640 know is extremely powerful i don't know well especially for us we're i mean dude we're not

01:47:23.960 getting any of the real data we're just three guys i have tendonitis from you know what i'm 0.97

01:47:29.080 saying i'm more worried about what's going on with my elbow than the fucking nukes right now 0.88

01:47:32.300 You got any plans for tendonitis? 0.98

01:47:34.200 I've never had that before, dude. 1.00

01:47:36.280 This shit sucks, dude. 0.99

01:47:38.320 I did too much pull, like the row, and it's like ripped on my elbow. 1.00

01:47:41.480 Oh, God.

01:47:42.260 What can I do, James?

01:47:43.060 Wear a brace at night.

01:47:44.360 A brace at night?

01:47:45.280 Have you ever, you don't look like the type of guy who will do it,

01:47:48.320 but I will suggest you, have you ever tried fasting?

01:47:51.300 I do.

01:47:51.620 I do intermittent fasting every day.

01:47:53.060 No, I'm talking about prolonged fasting.

01:47:55.400 Three-day?

01:47:55.880 Three-day water fast.

01:47:56.860 It will help you.

01:47:57.880 You know what I'm going to do instead of that?

01:47:58.580 Because it takes away the inflammation.

01:48:00.480 I'm going to cheat the system, and I'm going to go back to Brigham Buehler.

01:48:03.720 Oh, yeah.

01:48:04.580 Brigham will take care of me.

01:48:05.800 Brigham is the best.

01:48:06.600 But you can do that, or you do a 3-day water fast.

01:48:09.680 It increases your growth hormone production and reduces your inflammation.

01:48:15.460 It's worth investigating, man.

01:48:16.920 Trust me.

01:48:17.300 And nobody makes money with fasting, but it freaking works.

01:48:20.160 Who knows if we're here right now?

01:48:22.120 I had a bad ulcer colitis, and I still have, but I don't have any symptoms anymore.

01:48:29.720 it saves me after when i retire i retire one of the reason is also

01:48:33.960 had ulcer colitis and i was on on heavy medication because it's an inflammation of the colon so i

01:48:40.560 get introduced to fasting and i thought it was bullshit when i tried it man it changed my life

01:48:45.240 i wish i would have known that before and now i don't have any symptoms i can drink i can eat

01:48:50.540 whatever i want and that's amazing it changes me and it's worth worth trying it's just so hard

01:48:57.640 It's hard, but everything is hard.

01:48:58.960 Everything that is good for you, bro, is hard.

01:49:00.840 You need to put the work into it.

01:49:04.920 Everything.

01:49:05.420 Nothing comes easy, man.

01:49:06.560 Things that come easy, it's a cheat, and you pay for it later on.

01:49:09.800 Yeah, you're right.

01:49:10.320 It's like that, man. 0.88

01:49:11.620 Life sucks, man, but that's how it is sometimes, you know? 0.95

01:49:14.540 What's the longest you ever fasted? 0.99

01:49:16.640 Five days.

01:49:17.480 Oh, you did five?

01:49:18.220 You know, I heard one seven-day fast could result in like a 70% or 80% reduction of cancer-causing cells in your body.

01:49:25.620 it's called autophagy yeah right is that what it's called yeah because your body your body has no

01:49:30.220 calorie to burn so it turns into itself and your body bad cells exactly i just did i just did

01:49:35.600 three days recently i can do three days but anything past that dude i start to get i have

01:49:41.580 no energy do you is it all do you do all water or do you add electrolytes the last the last i've

01:49:47.020 done it was quite recently i i do four times a year uh for me it's therapeutic i do before summer

01:49:53.120 after summer before the holidays after the holidays because i like you know i like i love

01:49:57.540 my life i like i like to enjoy my life sometimes i drink i party and it's fun you know i train but

01:50:02.420 i'm not a monk but and i'm also paranoid about cancer i'm afraid about that because in my family

01:50:09.420 there's an historic of uh cancer linked to a digest digestive system and i have ulcer colitis

01:50:17.040 so it makes me more paranoid so i don't so to counter that i do fasting and um yeah

01:50:23.600 what happens when you do three days if you if you do three days for me what i experience is the

01:50:30.420 first day i have a spike of insulin i'm i'm very hungry it's the hardest part is the first 24 36

01:50:36.860 hours 24 20 36 hours but after that the hunger goes away but i become very weak like so i do

01:50:45.000 what i do is i take salt in the palm of my hand and i lick salt and i drink water so it it helps

01:50:51.220 me to stay hydrated it prevents the hydrate oh yeah try these take some of those home nice oh

01:50:56.660 thank you i'll try i'll try i'll try it that has the sodium the electrolytes no sugar that's perfect

01:51:01.860 so you don't break your fast no yeah it's great that counts i live by because it's important so

01:51:06.720 what happened is is then you're hungry then you're weak but then the third day something

01:51:11.380 happen it's called the hunter gather reflex you have a regain of energy you're very creative very

01:51:17.200 very excited in a way that it's it's like your hunter gather reflex came up because you know

01:51:24.240 your body needs to eat now so you're all your senses you drive your car you pass by a mcdonald

01:51:28.380 you you feel the freaking burger man yeah you would never feel it in the real time but because

01:51:35.300 you're you're in a fasting mode it increases it heighten your senses and that's the underguider 0.89

01:51:41.620 reflex it's very interesting i love it i'm ready to eat right now i'm gonna go eat something right

01:51:46.300 now but but you are right 100 do it man do it like for a few times it might it might help you

01:51:51.540 with inflammation i used to have a problem with my toes i i had it yeah yeah i used my toes used

01:51:58.280 to hurt me and i i've tried everything and when i fasted the problem went away it never came back

01:52:04.680 Like, my inflammation was gone after the three days and never came back.

01:52:09.940 I thought it happened because maybe I kicked wrong at one point or something.

01:52:14.060 Yeah.

01:52:14.240 How many times have you done Rogan?

01:52:16.920 I think I've done three, four times.

01:52:20.620 I know Joe for a very long time.

01:52:22.000 I was going to ask you, you have not only in Octagon stamina, but you have podcast stamina, too. 1.00

01:52:29.080 Because you're fucked. 0.99

01:52:30.280 I feel like you're just warming up. 1.00

01:52:31.780 No, you guys are very, very interesting.

01:52:34.220 And by the way, what you guys do is great.

01:52:36.380 You give platform to people that can be heard.

01:52:40.120 You receive athletes.

01:52:41.280 And then Joe does the same thing.

01:52:43.520 It's good for athletes, especially in mixed martial art.

01:52:46.960 I'm retired now, so it's different.

01:52:49.260 But guys that are up and comer, it's good that you guys give them an opportunity to be seen and to promote themselves, promote their product.

01:52:56.660 And for that, thank you for what you guys do.

01:52:58.840 It's great.

01:52:59.200 Of course.

01:53:00.100 And dude, thank you.

01:53:00.880 Thank you for joining us and blessing us with your presence.

01:53:03.120 What an amazing episode and just super cool for me being a lifelong fan, dude.

01:53:08.200 Like, yeah, appreciate your time, dude.

01:53:09.880 Like, George J. Pierre, ladies and gentlemen.

01:53:11.700 Thank you.

01:53:12.380 Yeah.

01:53:13.200 Brother, I never do this.

01:53:15.820 I would love to get connected. 1.00

01:53:17.320 Grab your number and just shoot the shit on the side. 0.99

01:53:20.040 I'll send you some stuff right now that might interest you. 1.00

01:53:23.680 No, no, real stuff.

01:53:25.460 Real stuff. 0.97

01:53:26.300 Sick.

01:53:26.580 Yeah. 1.00

01:53:27.000 Better than my bullshit, bro. 1.00

01:53:28.320 If you're like, I'll feed you. 1.00

01:53:29.680 I'll feed you with some stuff.

01:53:30.660 Yeah, you should, bro.

01:53:31.140 We have a little back and forth.

01:53:32.320 Then I'll feed you with some stuff.

01:53:34.100 Conspiracy theories.

01:53:35.160 I'm group chatting.

01:53:36.460 Stuff I'm going to say is not conspiracy.

01:53:41.120 It's good.

01:53:42.040 It's well-declimated.

01:53:43.220 It's declassified.

01:53:45.520 And it's hidden in plain sight.

01:53:47.360 You have it.

01:53:48.000 I love it.

01:53:48.580 Hey, thanks to Fanatics.

01:53:51.600 Oh, Fanatic.

01:53:52.400 And the WWE crew.

01:53:53.240 And Fanatics and WWE together.

01:53:55.740 And us.

01:53:56.460 And us.

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Impaulsive with Logan Paul - June 24, 2025

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