00:51:26.600The problem with streamers, okay, is that, like, the main currency is, like, confidence, right?
00:51:33.560And as soon as, like, somebody's confidence goes lower or, like, they become, like, what is it, insecure for, like, half a second, is he okay?
00:53:56.820If I'm in England, I will call it football
00:54:01.340you saw the rocks return i did when he went out there and he said you think i should sit at the
00:54:11.840head of the table do you think he had that line written on his wrist no because one thing i know
00:54:20.080about duane he never makes the same mistake twice did he know you were gonna do that i didn't know
00:54:27.800i was gonna do that no way no i didn't know i was gonna do that it was one of those things
00:54:31.300where uh it happened in last minute and uh looking back at it it was fucking stupid
00:54:40.440because we have the biggest star in the world coming back when they don't need to like giving
00:54:49.340our product ratings giving our product relevancy getting people to talk about us and what do i do
00:54:57.580you smoked them no amateur like no that's not it the guy is going a million different directions
00:55:04.380probably flew in from god knows where working a full day and i know i now know what that feels
00:55:09.460like and just wants to do the best he can i don't blame him for that i blame myself for taking
00:55:18.020advantage of that and a professional professional would have been like hey before you go out there
00:55:23.440if you do go out there like that i'm going to use it that's a professional i had a stupid rookie
00:55:32.580move about use it that's not that's not how we trust each other in there that's not how that
00:55:39.840works i don't see that perspective okay that's cool i get it by the way i thought it was great
00:55:46.320as an entertainment like fan for from an entertainment standpoint objective achieved
00:55:52.920gained interest box office was crazy yeah set pay-per-view buy rates sometimes in the fight
00:55:59.520game it gets a little gray yeah but we're all on the fucking same team out there man
00:56:04.680and you got to have trust what if he said in a boxing ring then i don't use it really
00:56:10.360then i don't use it but what about the box office
00:56:13.040i would entertain another way there's more than one way to solve a creative puzzle yeah
00:56:20.340yeah that's and that's where you build trust and that's where people really shine and that's where
00:56:25.960you bring the best out of people and that's why when i sit down with people i literally first of
00:56:31.300all i make sure to sit down with them and let's you got to go way back you can't just tell that
00:56:35.780moment in the story i spent years calling out the rock saying that man if you love the business you
00:56:41.800should be back what a fucking hypocrite i am i love the business i should be back i should be
00:56:48.240back all the time but i'm not i it's is it tuesday today what is it tuesday tuesday yesterday was
00:56:55.440monday where the hell was i raw why wasn't i yeah we were wondering that yeah exactly
00:57:00.040we watch raw we watched drew flamesy and punk well i was only watching because i thought he
00:57:06.260was coming out you didn't show up yeah and i didn't show up but i can sit here and say i love
00:57:11.000the business but i'm super hypocritical in my approach from being young and stupid of course
00:57:17.540so rock was already pretty upset with me about that because all he'd given to the business and
00:57:23.640the without him i don't get a chance to do the other stuff and without him i don't get a chance
00:57:29.600in wrestling he was so popular and helped rise the tide which helped split competition which
00:57:35.040helped the hiring spree which benjamin buttoned me into getting a defensive contract which i
00:57:39.260parlayed into a thing where to be on tv because he left and did all this stuff and now i get a chance
00:57:43.220i owe a lot to that and that the the methodology i wanted to sell tickets there's a right way and
00:57:51.980wrong way to do it was he pissed he was and justifiably so yeah because he's a guy who's
00:57:58.640got his heart in it he still comes back bro yeah and the people go crazy crazy
00:58:04.060should we do tickle challenge uh i might be uncomfortable yeah okay no what about me is
00:58:12.920making uncomfortable you're doing strangers like in the strangers i'm like standing up at target
00:58:16.680and i'm like i have to move some microphones around no i say we stand up and run it right now
00:58:21.920yeah um i would i only want to see you do it i say we do it right here because you seem
00:58:28.000apprehensive about it i want to see you do something yes i just want to see him do something
00:58:31.940like he's like kev kev can you grab the camera can you grab grab the camera caleb maybe shoot
00:58:37.380with that camera right for this tickle challenge and then kevin i think shoot on your phone as well
00:58:41.860uh okay well i was just gonna tell you don't overdo it because you then you're gonna scare
00:58:46.760him off no i'm not sure or you might not last a long time no okay wait is it right here
00:58:53.140do you want to get away from the table or do you want to get a little closer
00:58:58.960okay was that good this is I mean this is solid I could zoom in too okay Logan
00:59:03.040liked the tickle challenge on my tick-tock and wanted to give it a try
00:59:06.600himself so let's give it a try whoever laughs first loses you can go
00:59:13.380No it was not, that was a noise, it was a grunge, it was a grunge, it was a grunge, bro this is going to be the dumbest TikTok ever, I lost, so I won, no, um, cool, bro I like laughing a lot, would you, would you, would you be, would you be down for best two out of three, no, okay.
00:59:44.340Yo, what's up? It's the Rizla, and I'm taking over for Logan.
01:03:04.220So all of a sudden, when Vince Sr. passed the torch to Vince and all of a sudden, you know, my first check at the garden was some crazy check.
01:03:12.380You know, I beat the Iron Sheik. The next month, you know, when Vince Jr. was running, my check was nowhere near what my first check was.
01:03:20.700I said, bro, that doesn't work for me. You know, so I kept trying to keep things going as long as I could with Vince Sr.'s theme.
01:03:28.740But at the end of the day, for me, the business has always been a shoot.
01:03:31.920Because if someone makes more money than me, that's a shoot to me.
01:03:35.620You know, I just can't go, it's a work.
01:03:37.220It doesn't matter if his merchandise sells 10 times as much as mine.
01:20:30.040He gets right up next to the microphone.
01:20:31.760I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.
01:20:34.860You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween.
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