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00:02:06.360Did you come to that conclusion yourself?
00:02:08.640Yes, absolutely. I mean, I saw the comments right away and I was like, this is I mean, that's just not OK.
00:02:12.540So if I want to hook up with dudes for a month in March, I can't do that.
00:02:19.320Are you being making that as a joke or are you being legitimate?
00:02:22.140ladies and gentlemen welcome back to impulsive we are here to fuck shit up today but first
00:02:37.140we must fix something um you guys might remember uh at the beginning of the year this was our first
00:02:43.200podcast back um this is something that i said nobody move check your six don't breathe 2019
00:03:20.440we're going to attempt to go gay for just one month and then swing and then go back
00:03:24.120yeah so the lgbt community was um not happy with me at all they roasted and toasted me on twitter
00:03:33.720there was over um 140 000 reads or tweets um again just just press coverage yeah it was once
00:03:42.800again i was the headline logan paul receives backlash um about the going gay comment and um
00:03:48.340Here I am thinking I made an innocuous, harmless comment about sexuality, but the gay community made it very clear that it does not work like that.
00:03:57.320So I have not addressed this. I actually have been very low on social for two reasons.
00:04:03.420A, I got my tonsils out and this recovery is a motherfucker. This surgery is a bitch and I have not been able to talk even now.
00:04:10.800That's why I'm sort of talking rhythmically. Shit hurts.
00:04:13.420But B, I also don't feel like the cookie cutter social media response of uploading an apology video or writing something in my notes and then screenshotting it and posting it to Twitter was appropriate for this.
00:04:25.320This started on impulsive, and I want to flesh it out on impulsive.
00:04:29.240But more importantly, as I try to do with this podcast, use this as an educational opportunity for us and you guys, the audience, to learn about the LGBTQ community and the things they go through, the struggles they've been through.
00:04:42.520And believe it or not, I am and always have been and always will be a huge proponent and supporter of the LGBTQ movement.
00:04:51.380And for the hundreds of thousands of people who tweeted at me online, said whatever, if you guys are even watching this, which I really hope you are, if you ever, never, ever do anything again regarding Logan Paul, I have one ask, and it is that you watch the entirety of this podcast.
00:05:12.080And through many of the tweets, and there were many, we got one from an organization called GLAD.
00:05:20.700This was one of the first ones that came in.
00:05:23.620That's not how it works, at Logan Paul.
00:05:27.140So here to elaborate on the subject matter and explain to us how it does indeed work is Air Force veteran, yacht master, author, and inventor of mustard, Josh Seyfried.
00:05:39.000love mustard love your work with i love mustard too low calories no calories it's really just
00:05:45.620phenomenal all around how are you josh i'm doing well yo so you you're from dc i am you live there
00:05:51.020right now you flew in just for just for this just for 48 hours just for this let's go bro i i wish
00:05:56.360i was at 100 for you i'm i have like a list i can barely talk right now have you ever gotten
00:06:00.180your tonsils out i have not gotten my tonsils out but i've had tons of dental work done like
00:06:04.100half my teeth are fake. Really? Oh, yeah. Okay. Never get your tonsils out. This shit is up,
00:06:08.380bitch, bro. It sucks. Yeah. But thank you for coming. Thanks for joining us on Impulsive today.
00:06:14.280Hopefully we can get some education today from you. And I undersold you there a bit on the intro.
00:06:20.640Can you elaborate on some of the cool stuff you've done for the LGBTQ community? Yeah,
00:06:25.160absolutely. So I joined the Air Force about nine years ago or 10 years ago, and I had a pretty
00:06:29.880untraditional path. Within four months, I was blackmailed by an instructor for being gay
00:06:34.580through my whole career in Jeopardy. And when my career was going down, I decided to do something
00:06:41.240about it. So I organized the LGBT community in a hidden social network that grew to thousands
00:06:47.800of people. And when we started to work on the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, the Pentagon
00:06:52.300and the White House would actually work with us to help repeal and implement the repeal of Don't
00:06:57.680Don't Tell. I think most importantly is that during Don't Ask, Don't Tell, the LGBT community
00:07:02.200felt alone. You know, when they're at a base in Afghanistan or Iraq, there's no one they could
00:07:06.480talk to. And when we started to connect them via social media, they, for the first time,
00:07:11.280could talk to each other, find people. They were having coffee meetings in Afghanistan. They still
00:07:15.520do. There's tons of people that are serving right now that are connected because of what we created
00:07:19.880with our social media. What's that organization called?
00:07:23.560out serve it's now out serve sldn out serve and they still actively work um on lgbt issues in
00:07:29.380the military as we know uh trump has put on a trans ban of military service right now and there's
00:07:34.360trans people right now serving in the military in afghanistan and iraq and uh we're still fighting
00:07:39.620for that and so out serve sldn is leading the way on on fighting trump in the courts and also
00:07:44.060making sure that they can serve yeah this which is amazing man thank you a for your service and
00:07:49.420for the things you've done for the lgbtq community like round of applause um seriously amazing work
00:07:54.380he has a book it's called our time um i would read this if i could read i i actually i can't
00:08:00.020read words i can do some pictures for you is there if it's a picture book i can i would love to uh
00:08:04.300love to read it so this is the the thing you're doing is is one of the very very relevant social
00:08:10.780topics right now and that's why i i actually think this podcast is going to be great because
00:08:15.500um i am a huge proponent of the lgbtq community again believe it or not and i always have been
00:08:21.440um and so i think i i'm i'm very comfortable with this subject so you're openly gay correct
00:08:27.240absolutely yes okay so so mike yeah absolutely i love that surprise so so did my comment offend
00:08:34.880you personally oh absolutely okay um and i think one of the reasons it offended me is that i watch
00:08:39.860some of your stuff on YouTube. But my brothers are 11 and 14 years younger than I am, and they
00:08:45.180love you. And, you know, they don't watch me on CNN or MSNBC, but they watch you. And so when they
00:08:50.580see you making a joke about being gay or going gay for a month, it affects them. You are a person
00:08:55.500that sets the tone of what is acceptable to make a joke of. And so when youth watch you and say,
00:09:00.720hey, Logan Paul made this joke, that's what kind of legitimizes bullying in school. I mean,
00:09:06.220because you know i grew up you know in a southern baptist uh household where i had this in elementary
00:09:12.200school on the playground they would joke about hey this kid's gay or things like that and that's
00:09:16.620what people could take from your comments and that's why it was um awful and i think uh you
00:09:22.700too especially like when you heard logan say this you should also step up to say that's not cool bro
00:09:26.880like i think you all we need to be accountable as men to each other to say hey this is not okay
00:16:47.560And it's funny, but he's not crossing a line where he's saying, hey, I can go gay for a month where you still have, you know, 35 states where gay youth conversion therapy.
00:16:56.580is still okay like that's where the narrative of you know i can go gay for a month is problematic
00:17:02.240so him going on grinder is him saying i am okay with experimenting for a short period of like
00:17:08.520he wasn't experimenting but he was he was having fun with why was he on grinder uh they were trying
00:17:13.580to just show like how you can meet people on grinder it wasn't a hookup kind of but there
00:17:17.260was an implication there right like there was an implication that he was going to jokingly
00:17:21.400experiment as being oh no there was never there was never an experimentation of like hey i'm going
00:17:27.220to go hook up with this guy then why is he on grinder yeah why wouldn't he use tinder i use
00:17:30.760grinder all the time for not i mean yes yeah absolutely i mean i when i'm when i travel
00:17:34.480through europe grinder is a great way no no just hear me out but you're but you're gay obviously
00:17:38.440and so it's the platform that makes sense for you why would he not use a tinder or a bumble
00:17:42.840where there's more of an opportunity to have straight he did too he did he did all okay okay
00:17:47.220okay cool cool cool cool okay i'm just wondering and i hate to do this um i really hate to do this
00:17:57.560but i i i do feel a bit uh like there's a like a pile of rocks on me sort of as you know um i have
00:18:07.000been at the center of public controversy um but i do feel like there's a magnifying glass on me
00:18:14.300now that i don't that i am trying to get out from underneath um and again i hate to do this but
00:18:21.060joe rogan said this on his podcast uh for three days ago after three days ago which is after
00:23:09.620or were surrounded by gay people constantly.
00:23:12.220So I had two people reach out to me after the show
00:23:14.260And they said, Hey, I'm seeing these headlines right now. Like I'm, I'm kind of upset. Can you
00:23:19.320clarify? He has a large audience, so they can't do that. But I got the ability to go and tell
00:23:24.560those people, Hey man, like, listen, you know, me in real life, you know, I love you and I accept
00:23:28.380you. This was a mistake where words were said interchangeably where they shouldn't have been,
00:23:34.140but like, he feels very attacked. And I even felt it on this one where people get into this group
00:23:41.140think in this in this mob mentality you know and so i'm just wondering does does a
00:23:49.000poor choice of words a way i misspoke because of my ignorance on the subject
00:23:54.880and let me say this real quick like even when i was prepping for this interview i completely said
00:23:59.380that to other people when i was prepping for this i don't think anything you did was malicious
00:24:02.340i just think it was ignorant i mean of course it wasn't malicious and of course it was ignorant
00:24:07.300but does that warrant 140 000 people telling me to go kill myself i don't instead of going gay
00:24:14.140for a month can logan paul go away forever 51 000 likes is there something i'm missing something
00:24:21.680here well i think he didn't say kill gus what does go away forever mean to you not make video
00:24:27.980not make i mean there are people who have said kill yourself oh yeah absolutely i mean i get
00:24:32.120that too i mean i i agree with you that like i i as i started to research this and uh like watch
00:24:38.660your videos and watch a lot of the twitter against you i i actually could not believe how much hatred
00:24:43.060is towards you i don't get it um i mean i know i know that you've made mistakes and stuff but like
00:24:46.620it that's kind of the internet bullying that goes on and it's it's terrible and uh um wasn't uh our
00:24:52.600first lady supposed to deal with some of these issues and but like what's going on over there
00:24:57.640help me i need your help but i mean like it's awful and i mean it's it's something that we
00:25:04.100need to talk about is like internet bullying because people shouldn't say go kill yourself
00:25:07.280people should be doing what i did reach out to try to have a narrative and yo thank you this is
00:25:13.020all i wanted my manager my publicist they're sitting there for the past week and a half i'm
00:25:18.220like please just get someone on impulsive so i can talk to them about this so we can talk and grow
00:25:26.460and grow a conversation not just an attack wishing death upon someone to go away forever
00:25:33.100because of a poor choice of words on a long form based 45 minute podcast which by the way is called
00:25:40.000impulsive i'm gonna say things sometimes that just come out i don't always think about them
00:25:45.020i'm working on it i am working on it but i've said this before i'm gonna make mistakes i if
00:25:53.500there are a million people watching this podcast there is a zero percent chance that i don't offend
00:26:00.380one person i'm i'm trying my best but i am uninterested in playing this game where i try
00:26:07.600to appease everyone anymore i don't give a fuck i'm gonna be myself if you like watching my content
00:26:14.360please do like and subscribe get your merch if you don't don't watch my fucking content you do
00:26:21.580give you do give a fuck don't blanket statement it because you give a fuck enough to to have this
00:26:27.460conversation because this is important for me because i am a huge proponent of the lgbtq community
00:26:32.540huge and i always have been i i love it i love the movement and i i'm sorry i'm getting so fired
00:26:39.700up i know y'all don't normally see me like i mean that's good to be fired up i mean and i think that
00:26:42.820that that's that's good on you that you want i know from the back channels that we've had on this
00:26:46.640that you are genuinely wanting to have a conversation and make this a teachable moment
00:26:50.300And that's important. And I know that you had some issues with your consoles and couldn't do it immediately.
00:26:54.220But that's why I'm here to have these teachable moments.
00:26:56.200And I think that that's we're not going to be able to create a manual of these are all the gay jokes you can't say.
00:27:00.280These are the other jokes that you can't say. We can't do that.
00:27:02.520But what we can do is when kind of these reactions happen is have a conversation like we're having now and say, hey, this is how we can, you know,
00:27:10.380fix this kind of narrative and talk about it and realize that we are all on the same team here and we want to be allies.
00:27:16.040And how can we improve ourselves? Because you understand the position that you're in.
00:27:19.580we understand the media is unfair it's been unfair to me i mean i get these tweets too i'm getting so
00:27:22.880much hate mail half the time i'm sure i'm sure i'm gonna get some after this you absolutely will
00:27:26.700by the way like what did you what are you thinking going on yoga paul's show and giving him a voice
00:27:30.520like i'll show you some of this after this that i i you know i consult a lot of my uh you know
00:27:35.140mentors like should i do this and i was everyone said no and you know what and i was like but what
00:27:39.320made me do this was my brothers and my family members that they love you and that's the important
00:27:44.780message that we talk about this because i'm not doing this for the people in dc or watch me on
00:27:49.280msnbc you're seeing and i'm doing this for the people that are in high school and middle school
00:27:52.520that love you and want to have that kind of conversation and same by the way yeah and same
00:27:57.600because i like like i said there is nothing more beautiful than being yourself and i mean that and
00:28:03.780if that if and if you're gay and you're you're afraid to come out of the closet like i get it
00:28:09.860i understand but hopefully with more conversations like this in 10 years or so coming out of the
00:28:14.920closet won't even be a thing hopefully people will come out as straight yeah that's that's i believe
00:28:19.580how fluid sexuality is going to become which is i'm i'm thinking way ahead here yeah um and i think
00:28:26.420it's just important for us that have this kind of like privilege to once in a while just realize
00:28:29.560that you know as we say this kind of stuff or joke about stuff there are people that are still
00:28:32.660struggling with this in school and like when we have bullying as being like exactly what you saw
00:28:37.260happen to you over the last week happens to kids on the playground still and we need to make sure
00:28:41.720that we educate our people to say hey this isn't cool and when our we see our friends do this we
00:28:46.000say it's also not cool you you brought up a point about um internet bullying just now um about people
00:28:52.240kind of ganging up on on anyone not just logan and i have a question for you about the current
00:29:00.300cancel culture they call it right and and and every time he does anything wrong not even just
00:29:05.500you know this or that he's canceled by by people on twitter canceled he's been canceled he's been
00:29:11.360canceled more times than i can tell you we shouldn't even be on right now because i've
00:29:14.140been cancelled so many times i was cancelled yeah i've been cancelled all the time what has
00:29:18.160propagated or cultivated or continues to give life to this negative we're gonna end this person
00:29:26.820cancel culture that we see on the internet what do you think is driving it and do you think that
00:29:33.020more importantly would you denounce that from happening no matter what the offense like where
00:29:40.400is it okay to gang up on someone yeah it's it's scary line to think about because i hate this
00:29:45.360mob mentality that happens like and what happens sometimes is that we'll have some tweet go out
00:29:50.360and then a whole cycle of news comes out around it without like any kind of you know information
00:29:56.060about it and i think that that's wrong and um we need to have the due process to learn about what
00:30:00.780actually exactly what we're doing now and have that kind of conversation um but yeah i absolutely
00:30:04.980do not kind of support this mob mentality of uh you know immediately canceling everything let's
00:30:09.800make these teachable moments because you know if the last year didn't kill you then or cancel you
00:30:13.640then you're not gonna be like i'm not like i'm not gonna be canceled ever like i'm gonna be here
00:30:17.380for a minute sorry if you if you don't like me like i'm gonna be here i'm gonna stick around
00:30:20.660but we're gonna do better yeah but we're gonna do better absolutely every day please every
00:30:24.620fucking day absolutely we're gonna do better and also and also like by the way tell us what
00:30:29.740we're doing wrong but if we can do it in a different way i love that yeah is there like
00:30:35.460a way you could just like reach out to us or like not reach out but even on twitter like
00:30:38.620hey man like here's here's how here's how again i don't know if i don't know if the people i want
00:30:43.660to be watching this are watching this but here's how um like okay let me paint a picture for you
00:30:48.900imagine being a person who sees something that you don't like whether it's uh me donald trump
00:30:55.460whatever imagine being a person um and your first instinct is to attack denounce and wish that person
00:31:04.660goes away what kind of person are you to wish that upon another human being instead think
00:31:15.960critically about the situation use your critical thinking skills research dive in research
00:31:21.240investigate educate yourself on what's truly happening formulate an opinion and then voice
00:31:27.320that like we are doing now um i think i think if there's two things people can take out of this
00:31:34.760podcast except being gay is not a choice number one uh and and the lgbtq community is happening
00:31:41.660and if you're not with it like get the fuck out it's happening it's a big movement and it's it's
00:31:46.460going to grow and grow and grow until it is normalized um and number two i am praising
00:31:52.460critical thinking skills when it comes to your opinion on social injustices presumable injustices
00:31:59.480and on any issues by the way yeah because like this is this conversation is not only relevant to
00:32:04.700the issue at hand here this is a massive issue within this country right now it's the sharing
00:32:10.200of fake and sensationalized news and i don't use fake news the way trump says it okay and i'm not
00:32:14.660going to get into my personal beliefs but whether you're conservative democrat uh a supporter of
00:32:19.740lgbtq whatever do your research make critical statements that give people the opportunity to
00:32:26.800learn and grow from the feedback you're giving them so not you're fucking canceled not go kill
00:32:32.700yourself not go dot do you know how many times i've used language like that in the past 10 years
00:32:37.380since i was a child never sky jackson tweeted this at me i don't know who that is i don't either but
00:32:44.240she has followers eight years old it got retweets uh being gay isn't a choice being gay isn't a
00:32:49.540phase being gay shouldn't be used for a trend in subscribers grow up logan paul and again this is
00:32:55.160where i'm like like let we don't even have to think critically let's just think for one second
00:32:59.180do you think for one second that saying what i said which by the way i've voiced was a mistake
00:33:06.500and a horrible choice of words do you think that increased my subscribers at all i'm not sure it
00:33:14.000did not that does not increase my subscribers this is a tweet that got favorites because she
00:33:20.200wanted to be a voice for her community with no research context or any idea what it means to
00:33:26.560gain subscribers here's my question to you is as what would you do what what do you think the
00:33:30.500appropriate response should be because i think one of the which i've gotten by the way my version
00:33:34.500of appropriate responses i mean like how how do you how do you expect me to tweet after watching
00:33:39.440you on the podcast being upset for it what what actions could i do in the first say 24 hours if
00:33:45.880you're not you and not coming on my my podcast and you want to tweet at me and voice your opinion
00:33:49.680through the internet i would not tell me to go kill myself i would not tell me i'm doing it for
00:33:53.280views trend or subscribers i would say logan and i've seen these by the way i've obviously just
00:33:58.500choosing the ones that i felt uh were uh a little posted hastily um i'd say logan this is why
00:34:10.080we find offense to this this is why our community has a problem with what you've said because
00:34:16.380and again i'm i'm assuming here because there was an implication that being gay is a choice
00:34:23.920yeah absolutely i think that that's definitely is that is that the core i think that that's
00:34:27.000definitely the core of it is that like you know things like conversion therapy is a huge thing in
00:34:30.880the lgbtq movement right now i mean it's a it's a huge topic can you can you elaborate on that
00:34:35.540because right off the bat that sounds fuck oh absolutely it's absolutely absolutely um so in
00:34:41.200these states parents are allowed to like say commit their uh their children to like conversion
00:34:46.180like antidepressants yeah and say hey and there's tons of stories out there there's some great
00:34:51.160advocates uh on this issue but like imagine being able to just put your kid in a home to say hey you
00:34:56.760need to convert back to uh you know being straight and i mean what the fuck there's actually there's
00:35:02.740actually a story i think it's actually the very first one in there um that talks about this person
00:35:06.720who was made to go straight and then he got married to a woman had a child and then like you
00:35:13.300know ended up breaking down in the military just a few years later i mean that's the kind of stuff
00:35:16.260that happens and and that's an important topic that like i think that's where it really hit home
00:35:20.720for a lot of people is that like that's such a big important issue right now did you say that
00:35:23.560happening in 35 states yes it's still a lot in 35 states right now and it's being propagated by
00:35:28.420some top officials that i won't mention oh absolutely there are people that are behind
00:35:32.280it that are high-ranking well i mean like pence's uh you said i won't say it pence's wife uh works
00:35:39.260at a school that you know you can't support uh being a homosexual or being gay um and i think
00:35:44.260that that's just like that's the kind of atmosphere we live in right now especially with the political
00:35:47.460climate climate that like it's so heated right now that you get some of this reaction and she's
00:35:52.120getting slammed oh absolutely and and rightfully so absolutely and and so he he said one of the
00:35:57.280ways you can respond to him when he makes a mistake on twitter or facebook or instagram or
00:36:01.060whatever is to is to you know say this is why we were offended i i even say take a step back
00:36:07.980one more and say this because not only does it is it the right thing to do but it gives you more
00:36:13.360ammo if you are in the cancel culture say say logan can you clarify what you meant by this
00:36:19.240yeah logan what did you mean by this which which that's about like surrounding yourself
00:36:23.220with people and friends that can help you with along that way right if i mean i think that's
00:36:27.440exactly what you're doing now and hopefully what you'll do in the future which publications did
00:36:31.680reach out yeah in all fairness to say can you clarify what you meant by this but i felt everything
00:36:36.740that's just been said needed to be said to answer that question and i didn't feel like a tweet or
00:36:42.000an email would have uh got it justly got that done yeah um so as someone who you you've been
00:36:49.980in the military receiving that kind of oppression like that that's that's not easy you have to be
00:36:57.300tough to be doing what you're doing to be now a crusader if you will towards this movement so
00:37:02.840as someone who's overcome that kind of hate what would you recommend to those people who do find
00:37:09.980defense do you recommend take action instead of just hating and just sitting in in that well
00:37:17.200definitely no one should ever say go kill yourself like that's a line that i think everyone definitely
00:37:22.420should never cross what about go away forever a boiled down version which to me means go die
00:37:28.240i don't think that means the same i feel the same way we also live in a country where free speech
00:37:32.460is allowed right like that's good yeah go tweet your thing but like also like i mean i believe
00:37:36.760cancel logan right now because i don't see the cute little dog running around
00:37:39.620yeah where's kong can we get kong yeah yeah actually someone so cancel logan until this
00:37:45.480yo i've been canceled so many times i've been canceled we're just we're waiting for somebody
00:37:50.260to uncancel i'm actually i know i'm ready to come back but no wait i i i like that i like
00:37:56.600that question what what was the yeah so i mean you're in the military of all places that's the
00:38:02.260i mean that's got to be the worst level of hate i watched an interview of you um and uh your
00:38:09.080interviewer asked this and he said something about air force academy cadets being sexually
00:38:15.200assaulted and you could not report it or something yeah that's a thing it was an interview with john
00:38:21.480ferugia who's an amazing reporter out of colorado um he's the one that broke the famous sexual
00:38:26.280assault scandals back in i want to say 2003 um and yeah it's an angle of don't ask until that
00:38:31.120was never covered imagine living in the world in which say a person was raped and couldn't turn
00:38:36.620around and report it because uh like by doing so they're outing themselves um and that that exactly
00:38:42.320happened it happened more than you can count um and that creates a a very scary culture of course
00:38:49.380yeah and and you you obviously played a huge role in the repeal of the don't ask don't tell so for
00:38:54.660those of our audience members who don't know um can you elaborate a bit on what it was and and
00:38:59.760what you did to to repeal it it is actually amazing i was speaking at the air force academy
00:39:03.600about i think two years ago and i was speaking to some english classes and uh you know i would
00:39:09.640ask do you guys know what even don't ask don't tell is and they're like you know it's the policy
00:39:12.940that made uh gay people stay in the closet and i was like it was it was fascinating to me that
00:39:18.380like people didn't even know the policy so i can imagine like even your viewers don't even know
00:39:21.680what don't ask don't tell really is don't ask don't tell was a policy passed by uh bill clinton
00:39:27.140that was supposed to be a compromise that people wouldn't say that they're gay and people wouldn't
00:39:31.580ask them if they were gay. And so it forced the, the gay service members to be in the closet. Now
00:39:37.540it did lead to witch hunts. It did lead to situations we just talked about where, you know,
00:39:41.660we couldn't report a sexual assault. It led to a very horrible time in the military. And I think
00:39:47.420we're at nine years now it was repealed. And so now gay service members can serve openly. There's
00:39:52.180been no problems whatsoever uh the day don't ask don't tell was actually repealed we had a hundred
00:39:56.900people come out together in a magazine because we wanted to rip the band-aid off say hey there's no
00:40:01.800issue here um like everything's uh business as normal and it was um and then we had the right
00:40:09.780when Obama was leaving office he was going to allow transgender service which is still going
00:40:13.840on right now and then Trump when he came in um went for his trans ban immediately and we're seeing
00:40:19.700that fight right now in the courts um and that's still to be resolved and trans service members
00:40:23.580you know right now are still deployed in iraq afghanistan still fighting at this very moment
00:40:27.880and yet we have this climate where we're turning our backs to them and not supporting them so i
00:40:32.860mean this this fight for uh trans service members is far from over and uh we're gonna be fighting
00:40:38.100it for a while yeah i i agree that's that's uh that's a subject that i think there's a lot of
00:40:43.880chiseling away at currently right now absolutely i think it will happen i think it will it's an
00:40:47.380embarrassment when all these other western nations you know have had this for 20 years and i mean it
00:40:51.800was the same with don't ask don't tell like we're one of the last western nations to repeal to our
00:40:55.900to allow open service and it's an embarrassment why is why do you think that is you know i mean
00:41:01.420i think part of it was the compromise that happened with don't ask don't tell um you know
00:41:04.580there was missteps with the political action that happened during that time and so we kind of got
00:41:08.080stuck with this legislation and we had to work 20 years to go through congress like that's it's a
00:41:14.900long process to repeal a law and i think because we had don't ask don't tell it just took that long
00:41:20.020to actually repeal it it's a process besides logan paul what is the what do you think currently is
00:41:26.280the biggest uh threat to the gay and lesbian community besides but seriously like i'm on
00:41:34.580your team but seriously though and outside and outside of the yeah say hi to calm hi hey fuck
00:41:42.980you man no fuck but seriously though what is what what is because i want it because you have you
00:41:49.320have a platform right now you have young people watching the show like you said besides you know
00:41:53.480but i don't even know if they are bro like let's like they are people will be watching this and by
00:41:57.600the way this is a charged subject it'll get it'll get out there beyond the trans ban and and what
00:42:02.960we're and what we've already talked about like what do you think is the core issue that the lgbtq
00:42:08.760community is facing right now and what can more importantly what can influencers or policy makers
00:42:14.620do to continue to support you guys cause you said it in your hollywood reporter interview you said
00:42:20.020at the very end we talked about taylor swift where a lot of you want to stay apolitical and you know
00:42:23.660um i understand that completely but i think there's becoming a line where even taylor swift is
00:42:28.220like we kind of need to say something at some point yeah and i think we're definitely getting
00:42:32.200there when you know people are at the border wall and children are dying i think we're getting to
00:42:36.260the point that it's it's getting there um well it is there um and so i think first you have this
00:42:41.240problem with the administration and then i think second is just culturally right the numbers that
00:42:44.580i talked about we're going from 54 to 49 of you know acceptance in the lgbt community with normal
00:42:51.180americans so i think that uh that's definitely we just need to keep doing a big culture change
00:42:57.600do you think that's do you think that's a direct result of the administration when how how long has
00:43:02.240that trajectory been dropping just this last year so we went we went from you know 54 last year to
00:43:08.000now 49 and i mean it's it seems like it's pretty obvious what the cause of that yes i mean i think
00:43:13.780i mean it's that whole kind of like thing of uh you know he claims he's the most you know supportive
00:43:19.140president to the lgbt community but like then he goes and immediately does the trans ban like he's
00:43:23.240not a supporter right now and um i think that that's a huge threat and we need to keep talking
00:43:28.440about it because it's just it's just gonna keep getting worse not to change the subject and go
00:43:35.140backwards but i'm gonna do just that you brought up my hollywood reporter in an interview uh
00:43:41.980what is it like a three-page four-page spread uh the hr did with the beard uh yeah with the beard
00:43:47.820i had the beard at the time and uh the writer seth abrahimovich is gay openly gay he uh he dm'd
00:43:56.000me on twitter when this was all going down he said uh why he said i personally found it funny
00:44:03.080and this is an openly gay guy and he said he said not all gay people think the same things which i
00:44:08.460know is obviously true um but he said the same question that i ask you asking is why is it fluid
00:44:15.160for everyone else and not you and um i i think the people that did find a problem with what i said
00:44:22.800we're very vocal about it and uh i want to do my best to try and clarify everything for them
00:44:30.420but i also do want to say like there are people who are a little bit more laid back when it comes
00:44:35.500to this stuff that it's not you per se but like seth the writer of the hollywood reporter article
00:44:41.600like he was one of those people and he offered to come on impulsive that's why seth saw you know i
00:44:45.880love you uh that's why i feel comfortable reading what he he said to me and i just think it's it
00:44:50.160comes with the territory we all know that like it's you're a public figure and everything you
00:44:53.740say is going to be scrutinized like like you said and so it's just it it's you know when these kind
00:44:58.020of incidents come out it's just using them as a teaching moment to say hey like this is what's
00:45:01.980going on this is the truth and putting it out there that way that's all you can do yeah i think
00:45:05.700i think a danger i'm around education a lot and i travel to a lot of different schools and they've
00:45:10.300said about the kind of hate that logan receives and other people in the space this is not setting
00:45:16.480a great example to our kids in terms of making mistakes either yeah because we're really scaring
00:45:22.480oh absolutely i mean into make not making mistakes i that's that's even the i've caught myself doing
00:45:28.020that the last 48 hours as i was debating whether or not i was going to do this i'm like wait why
00:45:31.620am i debating this like we should be not running away from this but actually engaging people like
00:45:37.320this to have these conversations like it's it's it's part of the growing process it's natural i
00:45:42.480agree i mean i mean i i've said stuff back in high school that you know like when i was in the
00:45:46.900closet i made fun of gay people and like it's like it's like you see you're fucked up for that
00:45:51.280yeah and i mean but like i mean like but i did that as a defense mechanism sure and like i can't
00:45:56.720be like we can't go by like oh you said this in like seventh you know seventh grade but like that
00:46:01.200was you know my process of coming out and yeah yeah i think i think it counter counter his point
00:46:06.200i do this sometimes we have these little back and forth we about to do this not not not not in a
00:46:10.980crazy way but i think i think one of the my my intuition tells me that one of the reasons why
00:46:18.340you're upset is that we don't we can't make a judgment based on the fact that one or two or
00:46:26.740a thousand people weren't upset by it because there's a chance and we know for a fact that
00:46:31.220many were and so i think it's a situation where we need to be mindful of the fact that by upsetting
00:46:36.720one even is is is problematic sometimes no it needs to be addressed yes address right one or
00:46:44.200140 000 it needs to be addressed because right because suffering is suffering being hurt is
00:46:49.960being hurt being offended is being offended right and this is something that i feel like i fucked up
00:46:53.780on like i fucked up and and he also he also made a point about the the people not that found it
00:47:00.660funny not speaking up and i think that goes back again to cancel culture and i think it's it's
00:47:06.720everybody like you see a person stop and help an old woman across the road with her groceries
00:47:11.760nowadays nobody's running around her shouting world star world star world star it ain't fucking
00:47:16.380happening bro you know what's happening fights drug deals caught on tape tape you know uh um you
00:47:23.660know like cheating spouses caught on camera we have become obsessed with negative action with
00:47:30.400with bad things and i think so the positives unless you're following you know some vibey
00:47:38.000you know magazine or something online you're not seeing that stuff but that's that you're seeing
00:47:43.440the shit that's that juice bro that's dirty laundry pays the fucking bills i've said a hundred
00:47:48.860times and so it just continues to pop up and so i think anytime we give them that kind of ammunition
00:47:53.860they're gonna use it but um well i think it's a difference between the community of people that
00:47:59.760when they see something they out they they they reach out and they lash out and then there's the
00:48:05.880community of people that see something and then they reflect and i think that's the movement that
00:48:10.440is taking place you might not see it but it is well here's the problem are reflecting here's
00:48:15.040the problem it's a small fucking movement bro because the majority of people it's not small
00:48:19.980it's i'll correct you with that because it's not small it's just quieter yeah because inner
00:48:24.560inner reflection is so much quieter than saying yo for that you know it's just different so i
00:48:31.960think like what you're saying it's important that we address this a hundred percent because we're
00:48:36.080trying to get better we're growing but it's just disappointing you know when we're seeing
00:48:40.400we're making progress but then you see like hey we're climbing our way out a year later
00:48:45.340and we're seeing fox news which by the way exactly a year later perfect january right i hate you but
00:48:52.420hate me to in january to us there's so many employees there's people around here that we're
00:48:57.840all working together it's a team and so i think you know seeing that stuff it doesn't really affect
00:49:03.340us at the end of the day but you know it's good to set the record if i have to be the lightning
00:49:08.180rod of chaos and calamity in order for extreme change macro macro scale conversation i will
00:49:16.620fucking do that attack me all you want and i will address anything that you think that i think needs
00:49:22.240to be addressed in order for the progression of society and and one one i'm just saying i'm
00:49:30.580fucking fired up because yo i'm here to change the fucking world true i hear the universe exactly
00:49:35.660i mean i'm here to make sure we as humans move forward not backward and any time that i feel
00:49:43.460like i may have done that which i feel like i may have done with this last i think that's the
00:49:48.180important thing is realizing that do you believe that you made a mistake and and i think you said
00:49:52.760yes you do and that you're willing to have these teachable moments to move the ball forward and i
00:49:56.640think that's where we got to go is that like hey i think yes i think people are just getting sick
00:50:01.180of like how many chances are we gonna give this and i'm sick of that and by the way to spencer's
00:50:05.460point on that people people um they become scared of making mistakes and i think like you said it's
00:50:13.280teaching this lesson that mistakes are not okay and i i challenge these people who say this is
00:50:19.000strike number two on logan one more and you're canceled but first of all we've been canceled but
00:50:24.020but one quick note i challenge you cancelers of the world sit down make endless 45 minute
00:50:34.500open format conversation after conversation after vlog after conversation do it perfectly without
00:50:41.360insulting offending or fucking up in any way and i will write you a check it will be from his
00:50:47.340checkbook but i will fucking write it you got it y'all y'all y'all got it you could do it easy
00:50:53.500what were you gonna say no i mean i think that that's i completely agree with you like what
00:50:57.900example i thought of is like what if i was about to tweet that i was about to come on your show
00:51:00.940without the context of us actually doing the show i would have had so much hate you i can almost
00:51:06.140guarantee you would have backed out yeah i was going to tweet and and and say how excited i am
00:51:11.780for this and i was like no i'm not gonna because you probably would have backed out which
00:51:15.460maybe i mean i don't know you're like he's pretty courageous dude your character but i mean i flew
00:51:21.320all the way out here at a point i probably would still come on at this point no but i am at like
00:51:25.260you guys are doing like the sober january i thought we had like martinis out hell no bro sober vegan
00:51:29.620which by the way i've almost broke so many times but i haven't yet stayed strong sober vegan
00:51:35.280i had to make it through my birthday sober and vegan dude it was tricky he did it and i did it
00:51:40.820great job mike great job mike so so do you feel do you feel like we've addressed everything that
00:51:50.320needs to be addressed or is there something that you want to talk about i think that you've you've
00:51:54.840you realize that you had a mistake i think it's just up to you to continue that action right like
00:51:58.540well now i know it's very easy yeah exactly because it's because at the end of the day bro
00:52:02.020it's just ignorance it's not again there's no malicious intent with all especially with this
00:52:06.280and which is why i'm so comfortable talking about is because i'm very pro-gay i'm pro-progress
00:52:10.060yeah um so i have a i have a quick question instead of instead of doing what was the original
00:52:14.940plan for march do you have a suggestion that maybe would be more productive and could drive
00:52:19.500some positive awareness oh this is putting you on the spot by the way if you want to wait and
00:52:23.720yeah um but i think like i think just use this because we're obviously gonna have some press
00:52:30.800after this um is is you know encourage your followers like follow glad and and do say hey
00:52:36.080like here's here's what happened here's a conversation we had let's let's use this as
00:52:40.080a teachable moment and um you can follow this organization to to do better and then uh let's
00:52:45.500just see what happens over the next few months to to keep doing that ally if you make these mixed
00:52:49.120steps is is reaching out to people like me to say hey how do we make this a teachable moment
00:52:53.240and yeah and then maybe next time we can go do something more fun i mean like yeah i'm down we
00:52:59.700do fun things sometimes go for a ride i haven't been because my fucking tonsils um i mean fortnight
00:53:06.080is fun fortnight's i just tweeted about this i have no idea what fortnight is oh come try it
00:53:09.880i have no idea what it is what is it like a video hold on hold on that's that's that's odd i feel
00:53:14.000like i'm about to get murdered for that is there gonna be a cancel josh because how old are your
00:53:17.940brothers uh the one is 21 one is 23 one just signed up to go into the army as a drone pilot
00:53:23.060um so thank you brother for that yeah so uh i they probably know what it is but as a drone pilot
00:53:29.540it yeah for the army yep so it'd be station vegas i don't i don't know uh i don't know where the
00:53:34.080army is i'm only air force that's very cool okay um i think i'm i'm i'm very happy with this podcast
00:53:39.900um and again really thank you for coming on i understand if you guys are gonna tweet hey to
00:53:45.580josh please don't tweet it at awesome just send it back at awesome i'm fine it's fine that was
00:53:50.220before i'm canceled currently uh josh seafree thank you for coming on is this is this still
00:53:55.160is this still happening can they can they get this absolutely our time um again i'm gonna i'm
00:53:59.520gonna flip through where there's pictures uh thank you guys for listening and watching to
00:54:03.700this episode of impulsive thank thanks again for your service by the way and and to anyone out
00:54:08.280there serving like to yeah huge thanks to you huge thanks to you just gotta say it i i echo that
00:54:15.260massive thank you uh if you're not been part of the uh impulsive gang make sure to subscribe
00:54:19.440like this video and uh we will see you guys next time take it easy fam please
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