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00:00:14.980 But just don't say it out loud.

00:00:16.060 You're probably just going to be some rich guy

00:00:17.460 and he's going to whisk you away.

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00:00:28.460 T.I. and Young Dro in the house.

00:00:32.260 I don't really care for it that much.

00:00:34.220 Social media.

00:00:34.880 Yeah, I don't want to talk to people.

00:00:36.580 Well, welcome to our podcast.

00:00:37.660 Right on, yeah.

00:00:38.940 Kendrick is going to perform not like us at the Super Bowl.

00:00:41.500 Whether you enjoy the art or whether you just enjoy some jamming and music,

00:00:46.680 he brought all of it together.

00:00:49.080 Do you think Drake would admit that?

00:00:51.020 I love Biggie, man.

00:00:52.060 I just didn't see as much of myself in Biggie as I did in people like L.A.M.

00:00:56.240 I did. 0.99

00:00:56.820 Black and ugly as ever. 0.96

00:00:57.960 I was always a good looking guy 0.99

00:01:00.980 People told me that 0.52

00:01:03.520 You were not f***ing around 0.95

00:01:05.160 When you talked about the s*** that you were doing back in the day 0.93

00:01:07.140 Well, I don't want to get into 0.84

00:01:09.040 You can if you say allegedly

00:01:10.320 For some years now

00:01:13.000 There's been a stalker

00:01:14.400 I opened up my restaurant, Trap City Cafe

00:01:16.640 She ended up working, get in the kitchen

00:01:18.460 And one time on this podcast

00:01:20.820 I think the verbiage I used was

00:01:22.380 I can't help but feel this feeling of impending doom

00:01:25.740 And then, you know, nothing happens

00:01:27.100 I don't really, though.

00:01:28.100 You know what I mean?

00:01:29.100 By the way, it's...

00:01:38.100 Which phone is that?

00:01:39.100 I'm like...

00:01:40.100 That's yours. 1.00

00:01:41.100 No, that sound like some prostitutes. 1.00

00:01:44.100 No, it's yours. 1.00

00:01:45.100 That's yours.

00:01:46.100 It's in your bag, man.

00:01:47.100 It's in your bag.

00:01:48.100 It's in your bag.

00:01:49.100 No, thank you for coming from...

00:01:50.100 Who's my phone?

00:01:53.100 Hell yeah.

00:01:54.100 You said something like what?

00:01:55.100 why do i feel like dro's the me of their friendship because that's something that i would

00:02:02.020 do this is crazy how many flip phones do you have bro what right off the right off the bat

00:02:14.200 what's the rationale for the flip phones um my addiction to social media hell yeah respect dude

00:02:21.740 So me and my girl have been talking about this

00:02:23.860 She wants me to do the same thing

00:02:25.280 So you're not on any of the apps

00:02:28.600 You get calls, you get texts, that's it

00:02:30.460 Calls and texts

00:02:31.240 That's amazing

00:02:32.460 Dude, I did the same thing

00:02:34.080 I just erased the app

00:02:36.240 I just erased the app out of my phone

00:02:38.160 I don't do like Twitter, Instagram

00:02:40.580 Here's the problem with that

00:02:42.700 And Drew, I'll let you

00:02:44.180 We'll talk on it later

00:02:45.220 I'm an addict, like for real

00:02:48.500 I was a heroin addict

00:02:49.720 I'm clean 15 years from heroin

00:02:51.580 right and so so like you can delete the app i'ma re-download that i did that like i need to get

00:02:57.520 away from the dealers i need to get away from the dealers exactly so you and i i need the 0.90

00:03:02.520 fucking flip phone yeah i don't really care for it that much social media yeah i don't want i don't 0.94

00:03:08.340 want to talk to people i don't want you know well welcome to our podcast right on yeah 0.99

00:03:12.980 you know i mean come on people they really got shit to say they don't know that and they feel 0.94

00:03:19.060 it's rude of you to share with them 0.99

00:03:21.180 that you ain't really saying shit. 0.99

00:03:23.080 You know what I'm saying? I hear your mouth moving 0.99

00:03:25.320 and the word coming out, but bro, you are

00:03:27.100 adding no value to this discussion.

00:03:30.080 And so I just rather

00:03:31.200 man, just stay to myself and

00:03:33.040 speak to the people that I come

00:03:35.060 in proximity with.

00:03:37.400 Because then I can, you remember the time

00:03:39.380 where we could actually choose

00:03:41.420 who we wanted to talk to?

00:03:43.960 You know what I'm saying?

00:03:45.140 When you see a person walking down the

00:03:47.280 street you know back in the 90s or before social media you could see a person walking down the 1.00

00:03:52.220 street and you know they'd be talking to themselves oh fuck this shit and you'd be like whoa i don't 0.99

00:03:56.740 need to be speaking to them i would just choose to walk past them i don't have to say anything 1.00

00:04:00.540 now that person has access to you you know what i'm saying whether you want to talk to them or not

00:04:06.600 that's social media so i just don't like the fact that anybody could just speak to me

00:04:11.200 whether i choose to speak to them or not because it's because it's it's infectious it's infectious 0.84

00:04:16.720 a lot of the shit that's going on is and you could block them but then three more are gonna 0.73

00:04:20.740 pop up with the same message yeah and what it walks hand-in-hand with my addiction like i want 0.90

00:04:27.500 to talk to everybody when i'm out what are you doing like and who are you so tell me about your 0.60

00:04:33.740 life yeah i still do that shit i still talk to anybody yeah but but maybe not anybody maybe if 0.98

00:04:41.520 they were out screaming nasty shit or like trying to divide and all that i wouldn't but like i said 0.98

00:04:45.860 If I see somebody smile, that's the thing. 0.99

00:04:47.880 Like, how can you approach somebody with a smile on social media?

00:04:50.440 You can't really, you know what I'm saying?

00:04:51.720 It's harder to pick and choose, like you said.

00:04:53.740 It's also harder to decipher the validity of whatever a person is saying.

00:05:01.080 Like, you know, whoever I speak to, whatever level of discussion we're having,

00:05:05.460 I'd like to be able to really feel that they're telling the truth about whatever it is.

00:05:12.880 And on social media, you just can't account for it.

00:05:15.240 You actually must assume that they're lying at first.

00:05:18.220 You have to.

00:05:18.940 Until you see that there's honesty within their claim.

00:05:22.240 I don't think that's a filter that most people have.

00:05:25.240 I actually think it's the opposite.

00:05:26.860 I think if there's a headline or something, it's like, yeah, yeah.

00:05:30.520 I mean, I'll be honest, brother.

00:05:32.600 The only reason I drink is so I can talk to people.

00:05:34.820 Because I'm so, I feel like you're probably pretty jaded at this point.

00:05:40.920 Yeah.

00:05:41.160 By, like, just the success you've had, just the amount of people just in your ear, like, trying to talk to you, get at you.

00:05:48.580 You never know their intentions.

00:05:49.940 Like, I certainly have had that kind of, like, inwards.

00:05:55.320 I'm shelled off at this point.

00:05:57.160 You said you had the kind of who?

00:05:59.000 Like, an inward.

00:06:00.100 I went inward when I got, like, I think more successful.

00:06:03.020 I don't know.

00:06:04.160 Just so many people out there that I just don't know. 0.98

00:06:07.960 You know, I don't know if I give a fuck about them. 0.99

00:06:10.400 You can't. 1.00

00:06:11.160 You know, I mean, you can't, I mean, I give a fuck about people as a whole, society, you know, I give a fuck about humanity, but like individually, I can't, I just can't, there's too much bullshit out there, there's too much bullshit out there. 0.99

00:06:26.600 Now, once I have found a reason to care, once I have been made to acknowledge, okay, this is what this person is going through, this is this person's honest experience, okay, now I can care. 0.99

00:06:41.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:41.800 But, you know, people manipulate, you know, someone's empathy.

00:06:48.360 They will manipulate empathy to their advantage.

00:06:51.100 and it's and everything's everything's so hard to like you said to understand like what what's

00:06:57.140 real and fake and it it used to be back in the day you had to everybody has a right to their

00:07:01.480 opinion right but now everybody feels like you're obligated to care about their opinion does that

00:07:08.840 does that make sense yeah you just like they have a right to their opinion i have a right to 0.98

00:07:13.860 ignore their opinion yeah you know i'm saying i cannot give a fuck about your opinion that's my 0.95

00:07:19.620 right that's offensive you know i mean hey bro guess what that is offensive hey and that's your 0.85

00:07:24.440 opinion yeah yeah yeah i i we didn't do an intro uh ladies and gentlemen t.i and young dro in the

00:07:31.660 house all right hot damn hot lana kings of atlanta uh dude what an honor what an honor 0.95

00:07:38.600 but we were we were listening to some of your songs today and uh damn i'm sorry no come on 0.95

00:07:47.080 it's so cool 0.84

00:07:49.940 Mike played one of them and I was like dude I think I

00:07:51.900 I think I used that in a

00:07:53.900 in a YouTube video like a track

00:07:55.900 me and my brother made like

00:07:58.040 12 years ago

00:07:59.700 11 years ago man

00:08:01.260 compound interest man you can you know you can pay now

00:08:04.000 no for sure you didn't have it then

00:08:05.780 but now I think you can

00:08:07.020 send me the invoice

00:08:08.480 it was what it was live your life

00:08:11.780 it was showderling

00:08:12.620 we were talking about that today

00:08:16.100 because because this is like live your life and whatever you're like what 2005 2006 nah that's

00:08:21.980 2008 even later i was i remember mtv the first time i ever saw your face in my life rubber band

00:08:29.880 man music video and i was like okay so now i'm being introduced to that might have been my

00:08:35.280 introduction to atlanta trap sound damn and obviously like i was around for i was around

00:08:40.240 for dupree era but it wasn't it wasn't the same like it wasn't like really that type of feel right 0.97

00:08:46.800 and me and dylan were talking about shoulder lean as well which is also a fucking certified

00:08:51.540 classic so to have both you guys here it's just it's uh for me it's like a a full circle a real

00:08:57.300 full full circle moment which is it's an honor to be here bro you know i mean i mean when i say

00:09:02.600 it's an honor i mean i'm honored that you guys because you could have invited anybody here you

00:09:07.260 You know what I'm saying?

00:09:07.980 You kind of have, I guess you can run the gambit of rappers successful, significant, you know, and you guys chose to have us here, so we appreciate that.

00:09:18.820 I was always told by people outside of the rap world, people that I've talked to from Atlanta, that you are the actual king of Atlanta.

00:09:30.780 Well, I'm the king of the South, you know.

00:09:33.100 I mean, I would feel, I would say Gucci Mane is the king of Atlanta.

00:09:36.900 you know okay okay i'm more like the king of the overall southern eastern region yeah yeah you know

00:09:43.520 and parts of the midwest but mainly the southern you think you think gucci i mean you know i a lot

00:09:49.640 of people i think that outside of i don't know future you know i think that gucci is the is like

00:09:57.160 the the elder statesman that introduced the new era grandfathered in yeah you know what i'm saying

00:10:03.320 And I feel like even Gucci kind of, you know, ushered in some of Future's mixtapes and shit. 0.86

00:10:09.340 Okay. 0.95

00:10:09.900 You feel me?

00:10:10.520 And I think that, you know, Gucci had a hand in kind of introducing a lot of acts and artists that are still significant right now here today.

00:10:21.340 Totally can dig it.

00:10:22.620 But I feel like Future is definitely, I think he's the quintessential example of what the city sound is right now.

00:10:33.060 it's just crazy how many artists have come out of atlanta like haven't watched like the early 2000

00:10:40.080 late 90s early 2000 new york sound and then start to swap to atlanta if you had gucci you

00:10:45.340 jeezy which is like crazy right thug now all the way up to like cardi and i want to talk about like

00:10:52.960 that stuff a little bit oh no i'm leaving i'm leaving dozens out like it's i mean i mean killer

00:10:59.660 like bro it goes on forever it's like i don't even know how you really like define you know

00:11:05.580 one king but the thing i was bringing up about you was like people told me that 0.98

00:11:08.660 you were surely not fucking around when you talked about the shit that you were doing back in the day 0.97

00:11:16.080 well i don't want to get into the whole lot of you can't you can't if you say allegedly 0.99

00:11:20.780 in my opinion. 0.99

00:11:21.940 This is motherfucking crazy, man. 0.99

00:11:24.720 You know what I'll say? 0.99

00:11:25.980 I'll say, man,

00:11:27.480 by the grace of God,

00:11:29.500 I've survived

00:11:30.820 and evolved

00:11:33.420 from, you know,

00:11:35.140 a lot of belligerence

00:11:37.140 that has,

00:11:39.700 you know,

00:11:40.080 I've came in contact with

00:11:42.240 and I've had to endure

00:11:43.980 and I came out the other side

00:11:46.280 a better person.

00:11:47.280 You know what I'm saying?

00:11:48.120 I've learned life lessons.

00:11:50.780 You know, thanks to people like Dro and, you know, other people that I've had an opportunity and a blessing to spend time around and learn from.

00:12:01.060 And I made it through, you feel me?

00:12:03.240 And on the other side of any kind of tragedy or on the other side of any kind of turmoil, there is like wisdom and there is, you know, just a level of intelligence.

00:12:19.460 You know what I'm saying?

00:12:20.060 And if I had never gone through that, I don't think I could sit in the spot that I sit in today.

00:12:26.520 Unfortunately, I do think trauma yields.

00:12:30.440 If you survive it, if you survive trauma, it can yield such positive results in your life.

00:12:37.480 But obviously when you're going through whatever you're going through,

00:12:40.880 it's hard to be at rock bottom or even just a rut and look around and be like,

00:12:45.940 where is that light at the end of the tunnel?

00:12:48.600 That's tough sometimes.

00:12:50.060 Man, when you go through it so much, you know, when you've gone through it enough, it kind of feels like home.

00:12:57.900 You know what I'm saying?

00:12:58.700 Hey, I feel you.

00:13:00.660 It feels like home.

00:13:01.820 That spot doesn't scare me anymore.

00:13:03.280 When I'm going through the five men, I'm like, man, okay, this is a comfortable place.

00:13:07.300 Yeah.

00:13:08.000 You know?

00:13:08.720 That's scary.

00:13:09.340 I mean.

00:13:10.300 No, but it's true.

00:13:11.360 And it's funny, too, because then you get into the comfortable place after it, and you're like, this does not feel right.

00:13:18.560 Yeah.

00:13:18.860 when everything's going well

00:13:20.600 yeah isn't that crazy

00:13:23.020 yo that's something that I'm sure

00:13:24.620 I'm sure you relate to that too like when I started

00:13:27.020 when I you know got clean

00:13:28.860 got felonies expunged like became an 1.00

00:13:30.820 act a voter you know all that shit 0.99

00:13:32.740 every day you're just waiting for the 1.00

00:13:34.760 other shoot when is this dream gonna

00:13:36.780 end you know what I'm saying and that's

00:13:38.480 that's a yeah you almost do really get used

00:13:40.860 to the chaos right

00:13:41.760 I kind of found myself

00:13:44.880 like still

00:13:47.060 waiting for bad things to happen for sure and not knowing that i had endured a lot of bad things

00:13:52.980 you know so check this out i have uh i i really believe in um manifesting a prayer whatever you

00:14:00.200 want to call it just vocalizing desires and thoughts and so i'm really particular about

00:14:04.580 like what i say or try to be and one time on this podcast i like a couple maybe like five years ago

00:14:10.980 i had the audacity to say because i was really feeling this at the time what we're talking about

00:14:15.720 I said, uh, man, I think the verbiage I used was I can't help but feel this like feeling

00:14:21.380 of like impending doom is because I really thought like it was all going to come crashing

00:14:26.100 down.

00:14:26.560 I even like vocalized it, which was like against my intuition and then, you know, nothing happened.

00:14:32.720 Well, that's what praise God.

00:14:35.160 So praise God.

00:14:37.140 And I'm still like thankful.

00:14:38.460 Nothing happened.

00:14:39.360 And I don't hear a little.

00:14:40.680 By the way, it's 2.30

00:14:43.700 And also

00:14:44.980 No, but I say that

00:14:50.800 Because like, you know

00:14:52.520 It didn't happen

00:14:54.940 It didn't happen, my mind was playing tricks on me

00:14:56.960 That's true

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00:16:22.400 And I'm October Gonzalez.

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00:16:33.420 and all the nitty-gritty stuff we all think about,

00:16:35.860 but just don't say out loud.

00:16:36.940 I hate that job.

00:16:37.740 You're probably just going to meet with some rich guy, and he's going to whisk you away, and I'll never see you again. 0.97

00:16:43.000 Would you say a D-less actor?

00:16:46.520 D?

00:16:48.500 I don't even know. There's such a thing as D.

00:16:50.340 No, no, no. I mean, like...

00:16:51.540 I can't even get on the C-list? Like, I'm not even average? I'm not even passing? I'm failing?

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00:17:05.400 so i've heard i heard something and um you know i've taken it as truth um

00:17:11.760 they say that the devil can't hear your thoughts in your head only the things that come out your

00:17:17.160 mouth yeah i mean that's power that's crazy thank god for that too i try to keep all mine inside

00:17:24.520 you know if i if i think something negative i won't say it you feel me yeah fair you know i i

00:17:31.020 I try to just speak positively because it's so many,

00:17:33.840 it's so many,

00:17:34.480 it's enough people that they're speaking negative.

00:17:36.460 Yeah.

00:17:37.000 You know,

00:17:37.320 they don't need no help.

00:17:39.240 They got enough people that they're speaking negatively,

00:17:42.100 talking about impending doom.

00:17:45.100 You know what I'm saying?

00:17:46.280 I don't need to help them with that.

00:17:48.120 Well,

00:17:48.740 I agree with that.

00:17:49.780 That's,

00:17:49.980 that's a good one.

00:17:50.540 That's a really,

00:17:51.060 that's a really strong point for a lot of people out there too,

00:17:53.400 that struggle with their mind.

00:17:55.240 Cause I'm one of those people and,

00:17:57.180 and I could, 0.77

00:17:57.800 I could fall into the track of like racing thoughts and shit like that.

00:18:01.020 and i had somebody i did a retreat in nashville recently i went there for four days 0.86

00:18:04.680 and uh turned my phone off got locked in with somebody and really talked about trauma talked

00:18:09.960 about shit that that i've been facing for a long time and we're in this session and we're in this 0.91

00:18:14.560 group and this lady brings up this this um question for the group what are thoughts like 0.98

00:18:19.680 when you really think about it like what are they are they like truthfully like i'll ask you because

00:18:23.680 you you like to think about that more scientific stuff but what are they random synapses yeah yeah

00:18:28.980 Like, what's the physical manifestation, like, rationale behind it?

00:18:32.140 Yeah, just brain activity.

00:18:33.100 I think it's past experiences, though.

00:18:35.420 Yeah, but it's activated by way of brain activity, the things that trigger your brain.

00:18:41.240 Neurons, right?

00:18:41.760 All that neurotransmitters.

00:18:43.100 So we had so much trouble explaining it and finally came to that answer.

00:18:48.880 And she was like, what they are is, a good way to think about them is just like clouds passing by.

00:18:55.020 And you'll look at a cloud, you'll see a shape up there, you'll look at it for a second.

00:18:58.020 but at the end of the day it's just going to move on that's right it's what you actually choose to

00:19:01.480 bring forth out of your mouth or in actions in your world in your life that you need to focus

00:19:05.620 on that's that's super important because people man you get stuck in your head for this is true

00:19:10.380 forever and for some people this is not a pretty place to be yeah i know my thoughts my thoughts

00:19:15.760 wasn't pretty especially fresh out of rehab i was thinking about all the like the sex i had with

00:19:21.520 women you know what type of woman and you know what what it was like and then once I tried to 0.98

00:19:28.420 clean it out I started digging back up like uh what drugs I used to you know get around and talk 1.00

00:19:36.460 you know I mean so it was just different then it'll race and I'll be like well what was drug

00:19:41.780 what was I like on drugs and what am I like now and then you know and then it just digs back into

00:19:48.960 It just flipped.

00:19:50.000 So you got rid of that?

00:19:51.720 You cleaned it up?

00:19:52.640 Well, I'm still cleaning it up.

00:19:54.520 I'm talking about like the six, all the six you had.

00:19:57.400 So you basically, you renovated your spank bank.

00:20:02.380 You totally...

00:20:02.960 I renovated the spank bank.

00:20:03.940 Tro, I got to say this.

00:20:07.260 Tro, I swear to God, one day you're going to get a chance.

00:20:11.380 One day you're going to get a chance to talk about this stuff seriously

00:20:14.580 and no joke's going to come out. 0.97

00:20:16.340 Because I seen the Breakfast Club shit, bro, and I was like, bro, this dude just wants to tell this story. 0.98

00:20:23.460 To be honest, like, to be honest, like, I need that. 0.99

00:20:27.420 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:27.840 I need the gauge, like, you know what I mean?

00:20:29.640 Because when I do sit with them thoughts, it's hard to get out of my head because I think I have super anxiety.

00:20:37.740 You know what I mean?

00:20:38.520 I just race and race and race and race.

00:20:40.380 And then when I try to think of better things, I think of better things and I think of things that can make me, help me grow or whatever.

00:20:47.880 But then when I have idle time, I resort back to what I know.

00:20:51.100 You got to be intentional about your thoughts.

00:20:53.160 You have to be intentional.

00:20:53.840 I bet you both of you guys are really good at that.

00:20:56.140 My mind can go where it wants.

00:20:58.660 another thing i heard recently i think it was from huberman or something like that is um

00:21:03.220 too many of us listen to our mind as opposed to kind of being the director of what our mind is

00:21:12.380 saying i i i'm a i'm good at kind of training my mind to head in a certain direction or training

00:21:21.580 i always say you know i tell i tell my mind what to do yeah you gotta be the boss of your

00:21:28.280 now my heart now my heart is different you feel me i feel like you know sometimes my heart can

00:21:34.260 kind of move me you know before i can i can allow my mind to direct it but my mind i feel like me

00:21:41.380 and my mind we kind of like and we we have a good a good arrangement and you and you have a

00:21:46.960 one of the craziest because you're so most of the time yeah i mean actually um a little bit here and

00:21:55.380 there i will i will like my mind will slip the anxiety you're talking about and even like patches

00:22:01.420 of depression like a little bit which is crazy because like bro i look around in my life i'm

00:22:06.200 like i'm not fucking depressed but i in the moment certainly like here and there not that many times

00:22:12.760 over the past couple years i've felt it and i've actually gotten uh i think it's i think it's a net 0.84

00:22:18.540 positive because i've gotten a different outlook on just like mental health and mental like illness

00:22:23.080 in general right you just you put way more respect on it when you understand that there's a chemical

00:22:28.800 imbalance in your brain and there's like there's nothing you can do about it besides um cope as

00:22:34.040 best as you can and and stick to a routine that that helps uh for me like especially when if

00:22:39.880 there's ever an anxiety or like like like i feel that like i even just even just honestly just

00:22:46.180 saying like depression it makes me just feel fucking weird because i don't want to you talked

00:22:50.300 about it not acknowledging that negative thought i don't want to acknowledge it but like feeling 0.80

00:22:54.340 depressed not not depression feeling depressed well i well it's like it's certainly like a patch 0.96

00:22:58.860 sometimes yeah here and here and there and you know you know what it's always fucking related

00:23:03.140 to bro when i'm coming off of weed and alcohol yes it's like that's that's exactly what i was 0.73

00:23:09.880 trying to say like when i used to come down when i when i when i was coming down off of drugs it

00:23:14.820 always was a patch of depression right there because i used to be like oh shit i'm back at

00:23:18.880 this point you know i'm saying now i gotta try to strive to get off them right here yep and a lot

00:23:23.180 of my a lot of that stuff came from when i got shot also um it can't like i could be sitting in

00:23:28.660 this room and somebody can be in the back of me i'm like somebody about to hit me in the head

00:23:32.360 with a shirt yeah yeah you know what i'm saying like yeah i guess it's just trauma from me from 0.98

00:23:36.500 that and then drugs and then you know and the things that i was good at i was good at fucking 0.99

00:23:41.100 bitches i was good at you know rapping and getting money and then i was good at getting high so i was 0.99

00:23:46.120 so familiar with it for so long to when i get through racing it goes back to oh you know what 0.99

00:23:52.180 you're good at right yeah exactly you know i'm saying i can relate to that because i like what

00:23:56.260 what always historically has helped me like get through these things is like i i i know what like

00:24:03.000 baseline version of me is right i know what the best version of me is and i i am astutely aware

00:24:10.920 that my mind is playing tricks on me right that's that's it that's that's all it is like my mind's

00:24:15.260 playing tricks on me like while i'm having these thoughts passing clouds it this this see not

00:24:20.780 everybody not everybody has that baseline which is the thing because i was gonna ask you joe is

00:24:25.280 like when i think back i started using when i was when i was real young i was like 15 years old i

00:24:30.540 started using oxys and then switched to dope and crack and everything and um i think and i and now

00:24:36.260 i deal a lot with anxiety and have and and and depression and all that stuff for years now and

00:24:40.580 I think back, like, did I have that before?

00:24:43.220 Like, was that part of the reason?

00:24:44.280 And I think to the first time I used opiates and how it calmed everything down,

00:24:49.220 it made me feel safe almost in my head, in my body.

00:24:52.880 So I think I had it beforehand, too.

00:24:54.960 So that baseline that you talk about knowing yourself and how powerful you are

00:24:58.600 and the ability to return that, a lot of people in life, unfortunately,

00:25:02.180 don't even have a good baseline because they didn't, you know what I'm saying?

00:25:05.140 i think i think uh just operating within the this too shall pass can kind of eliminate the the

00:25:13.620 elements of depression because i feel like being at least for me being depressed is really

00:25:20.500 sitting in a space where things aren't going the way i want them to go you know what i mean

00:25:25.780 where things aren't uh happening as i wish they would happen and and in my life in my experiences

00:25:35.540 i can in these moments i can say man things ain't happening how you want to happen right now but

00:25:40.860 we've been here before on the other side you know it's gonna be back up again so as long as you can

00:25:47.440 sit through this as long as you can get through this patch on the other side of this patch is

00:25:52.140 you know the everything that you enjoy so i i used to i used to think that i used to think like

00:25:58.800 oh it's it's because things are going the way that i wanted but like

00:26:03.780 sometimes like everything is going the way and for me historically like everything was going 0.98

00:26:10.460 fantastic that's what my depression and then and then it hits and i'm like what the fuck is going 0.81

00:26:16.040 like this ain't normal that's how i know my mind is playing could just be like one yeah one breakdown 0.88

00:26:21.020 and thought you know like the imagination that things are so good and they might go away or

00:26:25.620 there's one part aspect of your life that's but your your point is is the overarching most

00:26:31.980 important point of all things in life whether you're depressed anxious whatever this too shall

00:26:36.460 pass it applies to every good thing every bad thing it is the most important thing ever 0.96

00:26:41.960 sound like some genius shit compared to a one-track mind person though like oh my this 0.58

00:26:47.920 is going to pass. Like, what, nigga? Nothing 1.00

00:26:49.840 ever passed.

00:26:52.020 If you think one way, like,

00:26:55.900 you're not trying to

00:26:57.480 conquer the problem.

00:27:00.180 It's almost like you waddle in it.

00:27:01.880 You know what I mean? When you think it, when a

00:27:03.660 one-track person, my person

00:27:05.740 try to think about something, he's

00:27:07.600 waddling in it. He's not saying, oh,

00:27:09.640 this is going to pass. You know what I'm saying?

00:27:11.120 This shit ain't passed in 22 years. 1.00

00:27:13.380 Then he'd go back to the drugs, and when you was talking 1.00

00:27:15.520 about the drugs, I had a thought 0.98

00:27:17.560 about drugs one time like if i wasn't on drugs i don't know what the fuck i would have probably done

00:27:22.980 but to myself or with myself you feel what i'm saying and it's almost crazy to say but like 0.99

00:27:28.220 without drugs i probably would have jumped off a fucking building you know i'm saying if i didn't 0.66

00:27:32.940 have anything to pad what i was going through you know what i mean i feel like it also is associated 0.99

00:27:38.320 to um to people looking to themselves and and and themselves only for all the answers

00:27:48.280 and like you know you got to believe in something greater than yourself you know because we're

00:27:54.360 imperfect you feel what i'm saying we don't have all the answers and and when we when we hit certain

00:28:01.000 patches me being able to say i know god got me you know god gonna always pull me to the other side

00:28:09.120 if i gotta depend on myself to pull me through the other side i probably don't see how that can

00:28:15.180 happen but that's the problem with society now i think we just kick god out the house

00:28:19.300 we kick god out the school we kick god out the house he's making a resurgence

00:28:22.900 I think it's coming back.

00:28:25.440 Oh, every knee shall bow.

00:28:27.680 But I think that when people got that.

00:28:30.360 Every knee shall bend, every head shall bow.

00:28:34.280 He gave me the short.

00:28:35.740 He gave me the six short.

00:28:38.060 Get to the point.

00:28:40.180 But when you kick him out, you have, you know, who are you going to go to?

00:28:45.500 You know what I mean?

00:28:46.280 So once we get him back in there and then get people to knowing those famous lines,

00:28:52.220 this too shall pass and you know

00:28:54.200 going and searching for a higher

00:28:56.360 level of you know

00:28:57.840 this is bigger than me you feel what I'm saying

00:29:00.400 then you can take your situation and say

00:29:02.200 it's way bigger than me than

00:29:04.080 just to heal myself I could

00:29:05.900 me and you can heal each other we can speak about it

00:29:08.180 and somebody can pick it up from looking you know

00:29:10.160 when two or more gathered in his name he is present

00:29:12.340 right I can do it

00:29:13.760 I feel like a lot of people

00:29:16.380 maybe are afraid to be vocal about

00:29:18.440 what they're going through though or even

00:29:20.340 just reach out what is fear

00:29:22.100 yeah yeah you know judgment the spirit fear of judgment yeah i mean but i feel like at the end

00:29:27.600 of the day you know fear exists in a lack of faith you feel me and like you say if you kick

00:29:36.100 god out then ain't nothing there but you know but evil you feel me and and fear exists in the lack

00:29:44.660 of community too you know i think like as as we continue to divide and silo and become more

00:29:51.840 more this and less this we we we feel less likely to reach out to somebody and be like yo i'm having

00:29:57.360 a heart you know what i'm saying like like dude having that having that group of friends or even

00:30:02.160 even always on this show and ever since i've been online and i know so many other people have done

00:30:06.320 it too i've tried to talk about this type of stuff openly to make other people feel like it's okay to

00:30:11.020 do the same right i'm very you know vocal about my addictions about my mental issues you know what

00:30:16.040 i'm saying because i want other for sure yeah for sure for sure you know why most people are

00:30:21.500 afraid to do do these things because a lot of people make fun of people while you know when

00:30:29.200 they decide to be vulnerable yep you feel me not probably not by even um on purpose it's just it's

00:30:35.920 a funny subject you know i'm saying that's a reflection of how people feel about themselves

00:30:40.100 1,000%.

00:30:40.820 I agree.

00:30:42.180 It's weak people are making fun of other people's problems.

00:30:44.760 Like, dude, when you go, like you brought up social media before

00:30:47.060 and, like, other people's opinions, like,

00:30:49.060 when I see somebody clowning somebody or trolling somebody on social media,

00:30:51.980 I don't even think for a second about the person they're trolling or clowning on.

00:30:55.960 I'm just looking directly at the person who made the statement. 0.99

00:30:58.480 Yo, you're calling some girl a whore. 0.99

00:31:00.180 You're calling some girl fat, whatever. 1.00

00:31:01.380 I'm looking right at you.

00:31:02.660 Don't even see the other person. 0.99

00:31:04.120 Don't give a fuck about the other person. 0.99

00:31:05.540 I don't care who you're calling that name. 0.99

00:31:06.780 I'm looking at you because the only reason you're doing that 1.00

00:31:09.340 It's because you think you're ugly 1.00

00:31:12.160 You think you're fat 1.00

00:31:13.060 You think you're too poor, too broke 0.99

00:31:14.600 Unlikable, whatever

00:31:16.000 Because you never see these people

00:31:17.780 That we see in the rooms

00:31:19.540 That we see on the trips

00:31:20.680 That we see on the jets

00:31:21.640 On the planes

00:31:22.160 On the businesses doing that

00:31:23.080 They're not talking like that

00:31:24.320 They're not

00:31:25.060 The people we're around aren't doing it

00:31:26.660 We don't have time

00:31:27.580 We don't have time

00:31:28.860 We don't care enough

00:31:30.000 You know what I'm saying

00:31:30.780 Our lives are so full

00:31:33.040 With actions and activities

00:31:35.460 We don't have time to focus on 0.98

00:31:37.940 What the fuck is going on 0.99

00:31:39.200 outside of this room right now. 0.99

00:31:41.220 Yeah.

00:31:41.660 You know, I'm going to share for just a second.

00:31:46.180 So for some years now, there's been, like, I guess,

00:31:51.580 I don't really know how to describe it.

00:31:55.380 I guess a stalker.

00:31:57.140 I guess it's...

00:31:57.680 You've heard the chaos.

00:31:58.980 Now you can see it.

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00:33:42.840 But just don't say out loud.

00:33:43.940 I hate that job.

00:33:44.840 You're probably just going to meet with some rich guy and he's going to whisk you away and I'll never see you again.

00:33:50.080 Would you say a D-list actor?

00:33:53.520 D?

00:33:55.520 I don't even know there's such a thing as D.

00:33:57.340 No, no, no.

00:33:58.000 I mean like.

00:33:58.520 I can't even get on the C-list.

00:33:59.440 Like I'm not even average.

00:34:00.320 I'm not even passing.

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00:34:13.460 I guess it would be considered a stalker.

00:34:16.400 They present themselves as a girl,

00:34:18.280 but I don't know if it's a girl or a guy or what.

00:34:20.840 But they contact different people in my circle

00:34:25.080 and just talk to them about me.

00:34:28.960 You know what I'm saying? 0.59

00:34:29.660 And, like, they'll contact my wife, they'll DM her, they'll DM one of my white friends, they'll DM my partners in the Ha Ha Mafia, some of my comedian friends. 0.63

00:34:39.600 And they'll just talk to them about me, like, as though they shouldn't be around me for whatever reason.

00:34:45.960 And every time people come and say, hey, man, the person, you see the person?

00:34:49.560 I say, yeah, I know who they are.

00:34:50.760 I don't know.

00:34:52.180 Like, I'm not on social media, so I don't know if they hit me or not.

00:34:56.020 But when they come and they, like, talk to them about me, I'm like, man,

00:35:01.040 can you imagine the life this person must have?

00:35:04.320 It's been years, bro.

00:35:05.920 It's been years.

00:35:07.340 All right, it was me.

00:35:12.900 That's a good friend, bro.

00:35:14.900 That's a good friend.

00:35:15.720 That's just a guy looking out for you.

00:35:17.660 Yeah, but, I mean, just imagine the life that person has, bro. 0.99

00:35:20.680 Like, man, you know, that shit must be sad, empty, lonely, and I just can't imagine. 1.00

00:35:30.060 I don't even see the words that they're saying because this shit be fake. 1.00

00:35:34.100 This shit be false that they be saying. 1.00

00:35:35.960 But just think about their life. 1.00

00:35:38.560 All they got to do is, first of all, hide their identity.

00:35:42.900 They create some fake identity, and they present themselves, and then they tell lies.

00:35:50.680 and only probably to just take their mind off of whatever going on in their life.

00:35:55.960 Yeah, that's mental health at its price.

00:35:57.020 Yeah, some of them it's not, like, the same as the people online that are trolls and stuff.

00:36:02.300 Some of them it's, like, you got schizophrenia, you got bipolar disorder and stuff like that.

00:36:06.240 Because we've had, I mean, dude, I've never talked about it before,

00:36:09.060 but I have one that was, like, popping over the fence at, like, you know,

00:36:12.680 I had one of them too.

00:36:13.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:14.880 And, like, would come and just sit.

00:36:16.200 We've got a couple of fence posts.

00:36:17.060 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:17.880 They named they kid after me, a junior, and showed up and said it was my kid.

00:36:23.660 Oh, that's crazy.

00:36:24.660 The last one.

00:36:25.740 At first it was cool.

00:36:26.560 You had us in the first half.

00:36:27.500 Yeah, no, showed up and said it was my kid.

00:36:29.440 Wait, hold on.

00:36:30.040 Was it?

00:36:30.600 No, hell no.

00:36:31.920 I never saw this person.

00:36:33.280 And now, mind you, so I guess, you know, I don't, like, I don't really call the police

00:36:38.980 and stuff like that on people.

00:36:40.340 Like, you know, I just, I just leave and I ain't dealing with it.

00:36:44.760 You know, I think my mom, like she started going to my mama house.

00:36:47.840 My mama called the police on me.

00:36:49.540 And so I don't know if she got them and ended up having some time.

00:36:52.480 So long story short, I opened up my restaurant, Trap City Cafe.

00:36:57.540 She showed up at Trap City.

00:36:59.740 Not as a patron.

00:37:00.940 She ended up working, getting in the kitchen. 1.00

00:37:02.700 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:37:03.460 I said, hey, who hired this person? 1.00

00:37:06.180 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:37:07.320 She just walking past me. 1.00

00:37:08.700 Hi.

00:37:09.180 I'm like, oh, yo, this is not cool. 0.98

00:37:12.060 Oh, damn. 0.99

00:37:12.680 She's hoping number two could be with you. 1.00

00:37:14.460 Yeah, I'm telling you.

00:37:15.420 But I mean, but you know, so I have things like that and other stuff like that that I've endured and experienced.

00:37:22.860 And that's in absence of, that's absent the presence of God.

00:37:27.680 Because to God should be the glory.

00:37:30.220 I'm not an idol.

00:37:31.140 That makes me uncomfortable.

00:37:32.540 You know what I'm saying?

00:37:33.160 For somebody to look at me and hold me in that much of a high regard, that makes me uncomfortable.

00:37:39.800 She wants to have a baby by the king.

00:37:41.720 I can't do it

00:37:46.640 But the thing is

00:37:48.040 When you have these

00:37:50.680 Type of people

00:37:51.500 I was also a guy that jumped my gate

00:37:54.400 A while ago 0.53

00:37:55.400 We got a lot of gate hoppers 0.89

00:37:57.300 Throwing stones at my daughter's window 1.00

00:38:00.980 Oh man

00:38:02.380 I think you 1.00

00:38:04.100 Beat the shit out there 1.00

00:38:05.340 Allegedly in your opinion 1.00

00:38:07.820 I don't recall 1.00

00:38:09.560 You should beat the shit out there 0.99

00:38:11.140 Well, if I should 1.00

00:38:12.980 Good

00:38:14.320 I mean, man

00:38:16.440 Throwing stones at a daughter's window

00:38:18.340 Come on

00:38:18.920 A stone at my daughter's window at my house 0.96

00:38:22.480 Don't even

00:38:23.000 You don't even need to say it

00:38:24.940 And if you do say it allegedly

00:38:27.260 In your opinion

00:38:28.300 I just had a daughter

00:38:30.780 I can't imagine 0.98

00:38:31.540 This girl looks at me 0.97

00:38:34.580 She's four months old

00:38:35.500 And she just stares at her dad

00:38:37.700 And she's the only person in the world

00:38:40.040 who can ground me in this present moment

00:38:42.840 in a way that no one else can't.

00:38:44.920 Like, nothing else matters

00:38:46.400 except my connection with my daughter

00:38:47.960 because she knows she likes me. 0.98

00:38:51.660 She's like, I fucking like this guy. 0.98

00:38:53.900 I don't know why, but he's funny. 0.95

00:38:55.400 He's around.

00:38:55.940 He holds me.

00:38:56.660 He's around.

00:38:57.600 And he's around.

00:38:58.340 That's the first thing.

00:38:59.080 Yeah, it's a good stuff.

00:39:00.140 As the king, you should have him dealt with for his insults.

00:39:06.080 The good thing is, man,

00:39:07.680 now I got sons that can do it.

00:39:10.020 I don't have to do it anymore.

00:39:10.840 How old are they?

00:39:11.660 My son, man, the oldest is 24.

00:39:14.700 Oh, yeah.

00:39:15.060 No, 20.

00:39:15.580 He turned 25 February 2nd.

00:39:19.160 The second oldest is 23.

00:39:23.180 My next is 20.

00:39:25.500 Then my youngest son is 16.

00:39:28.020 Yeah, protective sisters.

00:39:29.560 Yeah, my youngest daughter, she's eight.

00:39:32.240 Yeah.

00:39:32.500 I don't even know how much protection I'll need to be doing

00:39:38.180 Because you know

00:39:39.620 My daughter's uncle is Jake Paul

00:39:41.800 And

00:39:43.540 I think he's

00:39:46.380 Probably what people

00:39:47.620 Really should be worried about

00:39:49.360 In the future

00:39:50.360 Wait which one of

00:39:52.740 Which one's King

00:39:54.460 King is my 20 year old

00:39:57.120 He just turned 20

00:39:58.720 Alright so

00:39:59.980 I see him on social media

00:40:03.500 And I hear him

00:40:04.580 I'd heard about it a lot

00:40:05.800 And then it seems like now I haven't

00:40:07.920 Which I think is a good thing.

00:40:10.080 Yeah, I mean, to be honest with you, you know, King is...

00:40:13.840 Just like he was when...

00:40:15.420 That's what I was talking about on his cameras.

00:40:17.540 I have to say this because I see, like, what I see and what you guys see are two different things.

00:40:24.140 Because I was around when he was that age and younger.

00:40:27.180 So I could see things that he probably don't even see because I'm around him without his dad around.

00:40:33.380 And I'm like, well, you just move just like your pops.

00:40:35.520 But at the same time, he got his brain, don't you?

00:40:38.900 Like, everybody at certain points in their life, you know, went through moments of indiscretion,

00:40:47.780 especially as teenagers, early 20s.

00:40:51.820 All of us did.

00:40:53.200 The only difference in us and Kane is we weren't on camera every moment.

00:40:59.620 And it wasn't documented and, you know, and posted to be, you know, brought up and put in our faces every step of the way.

00:41:11.780 I feel like, you know, he's beginning to learn and now he's beginning to see for himself that a lot of the things that, you know, older people had been advising him of, he's seeing kind of for his for himself.

00:41:27.260 oh okay i see how that happened and um and he's you know he he's he's becoming

00:41:34.720 more mature he just had a son himself so he becoming more mature and wiser and more selective

00:41:43.100 about how he how he shares himself with the world and it and in a weird way too like

00:41:48.860 he almost went through like the attention era right grew a social media following which in a

00:41:56.720 in a similar vein is is kind of what him and his brother did they pissed a lot of people off

00:42:02.960 they create created a ton of controversy walked out of it on the other side with a million you

00:42:08.740 know millions of followers he's got i don't know probably close to a million on instagram now i

00:42:12.580 think he lost the page and had to start over oh it started but regardless like now you know if

00:42:18.180 you survive that time like in the public eye like survive the sentiment you can come out on the other

00:42:23.580 side start making better decisions and then corral that audience in a positive way because

00:42:27.260 you're growing up together yeah yeah because at first you have the audience that's following you

00:42:31.860 because they support the the the the mayhem you know what i'm saying because they they they they're

00:42:38.640 in a period of mayhem themselves and then you have the people who look down and shun the mayhem

00:42:45.720 because they either have never been courageous enough to exist within the mayhem they've been

00:42:51.660 afraid of it or they've evolved out of it and they know what's on the other side and don't like it

00:42:57.540 for you. All right. So as you grow up, the, the, the younger crowd that is supporting you for

00:43:03.520 mayhem, eventually they're going to grow out of it as well. And they'll grow either by your example

00:43:10.140 or you will just both grow out of it, you know, just subsequently together. And the older people

00:43:16.540 will begin to be prouder of you you know I'm saying so it's gonna grow it's good the the it

00:43:22.420 will expand and people will follow you and support you for different reasons like as he's young people

00:43:28.480 like yo I'm supporting him because I want to see him get it right I want to offer him some advice

00:43:34.980 to get it right and as he you know evolves beyond it it's like man I knew he could do it and now I'm

00:43:41.300 going to support him because you know he's gotten it right uh but as a father it's just to me it's

00:43:49.240 a blessing and an honor to be a part of a journey that i can see from beginning and transition

00:43:58.820 and even on the other side i haven't made it to the other side yet but i can see it i can see the

00:44:06.480 But I think like the whole, I think like the whole time, like everybody was watching it through the lens of, cause I remember when a lot of it was going down and it was, you know, there was so many different storylines and like, was he trying to be like pops?

00:44:19.720 Was he, was he, you know, trying to do like, what was he trying to do exactly?

00:44:23.140 But everybody was always focused on like, what does T.I. think of this?

00:44:25.980 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:44:26.760 Like, what is his response to this shit? 0.99

00:44:28.720 And like, was there ever any moments where like, you just. 1.00

00:44:32.200 Yes.

00:44:32.780 There were several moments.

00:44:34.400 I think, but, okay, so what I had to acknowledge and hold myself accountable for was the person that I am now, giving him the advice that I'm giving him today, is not the person that I've always been.

00:44:54.000 You know, like there were moments in time where he has seen me respond instinctively in certain environments that may, you know, may have stuck with him even more than my advice would.

00:45:15.940 You feel what I'm saying?

00:45:16.720 So he saw how I handled certain situations, and the thought or memory of that is stronger than the words that come through my advice.

00:45:29.140 Do as I say, not as I do.

00:45:31.580 Yeah, but that's what we would like to think, that they would do as we say and not as we do.

00:45:37.120 They actually do what you do.

00:45:37.880 Yeah, but a mentor of mine, O.J. Prince, man, he told me, he said,

00:45:47.300 there'll be more cult than there will be talk.

00:45:51.400 You know what I'm saying?

00:45:52.700 So the things he catch, so now as he spend time around me,

00:45:56.500 I'm more conscious about, you know, my actions and decisions.

00:46:01.860 And hopefully as we get into the next five years,

00:46:06.060 the memories of how i've conducted myself and how i've handled myself in this part of my life

00:46:11.800 will begin to reflect in his actions such this is i was gonna say this is a really interesting

00:46:18.420 conversation because like uh again new dad i'm looking at parenting now and um trying to

00:46:23.660 trying to figure out how i can raise um like grounded humble well-mannered children given

00:46:32.760 like i i live a very blessed life and i worked really hard to get here but i also did a lot of 0.94

00:46:37.980 crazy fucking shit to get here by the way it's all on camera so so like you know if i'm my daughter 0.86

00:46:44.200 and my son and i'm like like this is what i've learned this is my experience like i trust me i 0.99

00:46:48.940 touched the stove not only will they hear stories about me they can see all of them right see all 0.64

00:46:55.760 of them and and yours as well like man fucking last of it yeah it's it's all online so how could 0.82

00:47:01.220 king not see what his dad is doing and want to emulate that a little bit well you know luckily 0.99

00:47:06.240 for me a lot of the shit that i did that was the craziest some of my best shit will go unnoticed 0.97

00:47:13.200 because no you know i'm saying i didn't yeah a lot of stuff we did he might know thank god 0.93

00:47:18.300 you know you know thank god you know i'm saying but i think that um one thing i know that my

00:47:26.500 children have seen in me is how i treat others you feel me like how i treat others i'm i try my best

00:47:34.900 you know to lead with treating people how i want to be treated i mean i think it's a good thing

00:47:42.940 that you have who you used to be and who you are now who you inspire to be like that's i have a

00:47:51.360 nine-year-old son he's a big fan of you by the way his name is dj dj what's up buddy i um

00:47:56.900 so so uh so the drugs and the the women all the stuff that everybody knows that caught

00:48:06.620 wind of you know social media you know what i mean if he he's gonna see that but once once he

00:48:13.360 see what i transformed into and what i what i did for him you feel what i'm saying he's going to be

00:48:20.240 able to say oh he changed you know what i mean so if you ever so if you ever so but if you ever get

00:48:26.980 to that point here's your inspiration right you feel what i'm saying you're not just lost and

00:48:31.620 saying i don't know what to do i have it in me to turn this around yeah life is a series of

00:48:37.420 adjustments yeah i've always prayed for that though i've always prayed that if you god just

00:48:42.180 don't i know my children are going to get into things just don't let them get into something

00:48:46.380 that they can't change get out yeah yeah which can happen which can happen well yeah and it's

00:48:51.400 like it's like you talked about like earlier that that return to your instinctual nature

00:48:56.480 and i remember that uh video of you uh going to the club because they use because not not not not

00:49:03.220 one of them because there's been a couple but when you went to the club because they used your 0.96

00:49:06.840 your face and king's face yeah and that's when i really knew too i was like damn this dude really

00:49:11.860 still is who they say he is in Atlanta because they use I don't know if you saw this but they 0.67

00:49:16.960 used him in and King's face on a flyer to try to promote the party and he went there and just 0.98

00:49:22.860 basically said yo like this party's not happening and like they had to listen to him type shit you 0.95

00:49:28.080 know what I'm saying I mean bro I just hey man again I treat people how I want to be treated 0.95

00:49:33.460 and I wouldn't I wouldn't try to benefit off of nobody else's especially a family moment you know

00:49:40.620 because what they're doing was something went viral.

00:49:44.300 Let's just say me and King had a Harris family counseling session.

00:49:47.600 Yeah, I remember.

00:49:48.340 You know what I'm saying?

00:49:49.240 That just happened to be public, happened to be made public,

00:49:54.000 and it was a big deal at the time.

00:49:56.580 And that week, while it was a big deal, somebody was trying to, you know,

00:50:00.500 they were trying to profit off of that, you know, that virality.

00:50:06.100 I wouldn't do that to anybody, so I don't want nobody doing it to me.

00:50:09.460 and so i'm gonna i'm gonna push my line you know i mean but you don't you don't have like

00:50:16.340 you know uh markowitz and johnson law firm make a phone call like you're just you get a call

00:50:22.480 someone says yo this is happening in in in bucket wherever right and you're just pulling up yeah

00:50:28.700 yeah i mean yeah that actually happened that's the that's the attention it deserves

00:50:36.360 You know what I'm saying?

00:50:37.520 You violate a man's family.

00:50:39.540 I feel like that's the attention it deserves.

00:50:41.820 I don't...

00:50:43.260 But at the same time, even when I went, you know what I'm saying?

00:50:46.820 I spoke to people.

00:50:48.040 I used my words.

00:50:49.180 I didn't necessarily do as much as, you know, my instincts would have traditionally led me to do.

00:50:58.280 I think that was kind, though.

00:50:59.980 Being kind is like, I'm not going to let you run over me, but I get what you did.

00:51:04.300 They're all boundaries.

00:51:04.820 Yeah, they're all boundaries.

00:51:06.360 You know what I'm saying?

00:51:07.000 And we are capable.

00:51:07.920 Try that again and bow.

00:51:09.300 We are capable.

00:51:10.200 We are capable now.

00:51:11.580 You know, it could go.

00:51:12.740 There's another way it could go.

00:51:14.460 And another thing, I also, the reason that the first part of both of our lives,

00:51:21.020 or should I say all of our lives, the first part, the reason why that's so valuable

00:51:25.600 because people will never appreciate your peace until they see how much hair you can raise.

00:51:33.700 You know what I mean?

00:51:34.340 if you just been peaceful all your life you know it's like and you know what i'm saying 1.00

00:51:39.560 when the motherfucker see that you can raise hell they're like hey leave him alone let him stay 0.99

00:51:44.720 cool you know what i'm saying so it's you know there's there's value in you know the misspent 0.99

00:51:51.400 years of our youth that's funny i can i can i can relate to that even with my with like my

00:51:56.340 girlfriend right now too like she knows the hellish person i was with girls prior to her

00:52:03.200 like when i'm when i'm not in a relationship like i am who i am but when i'm so now she gives me a 0.59

00:52:08.240 shit ton of credit because she sees how i act now that i'm with her you know what i'm saying

00:52:11.400 that's a really that's a really good point oh yeah she's she knows how how big of a pivot that

00:52:17.900 was for me to be in you know in a committed relationship we have not talked about hip-hop

00:52:22.260 barely okay born in atlanta king of the south did you always want to be a rapper talk to me

00:52:29.720 the early early inspirations who always early inspirations tupac okay

00:52:42.280 l.a.l uh uh dr dre iq nwa snoop oh you know what i just realized what's up not one new york

00:52:51.800 rapper on that pole. No, on mine is Ray Kwan

00:52:54.080 with a purple tape.

00:52:55.680 I said LL.

00:52:57.320 Oh yeah, facts. That's true.

00:52:59.240 But I just think about it. I love Biggie.

00:53:01.240 I love Biggie, man. I just didn't see as much

00:53:03.480 of myself in Biggie as I did in people

00:53:05.500 like LL. I did.

00:53:07.300 You know, even like Run DMC. 1.00

00:53:09.180 Black and ugly as ever. 1.00

00:53:11.420 I was always a good looking guy, man. 0.99

00:53:14.900 Yeah, you can see it in your

00:53:17.360 inspo.

00:53:17.740 You know what I'm saying?

00:53:19.120 Yeah, but, no, I've had tons of inspiration, man.

00:53:25.400 And, yes, I've always, since I was, man, three, not three years old,

00:53:28.920 in the third grade, though, I would start writing reps,

00:53:32.080 and just that's what I always wanted to be when somebody said

00:53:34.280 what I wanted to be when I grew up.

00:53:35.520 That was the first answer that I had.

00:53:38.480 My actions sometimes suggested otherwise.

00:53:42.900 Yeah, but that was because I didn't have, now, what he's, you know,

00:53:47.760 His objection is valid, because when I met Dro, I did not see, I had no, and you know how people look at Atlanta as this, it's like this epicenter for success in music and entertainment.

00:54:05.360 I was born and raised here.

00:54:06.660 I never met nobody.

00:54:08.740 I never met nobody as a kid, man.

00:54:11.780 I never met JD.

00:54:13.260 Well, you know what?

00:54:13.860 I ran into too short because I used to see a dope next to that barbershop where he got a haircut.

00:54:19.020 Same thing for Big Gilt and Goody Mug.

00:54:22.660 But other than that, I never really met anybody that I felt like I could be introduced to an opportunity through.

00:54:32.460 But also on the flip side of that point, as soon as I met someone who offered me an opportunity to do what I love for a living, 0.88

00:54:42.260 Because I let the bullshit go and never really went back. 0.92

00:54:47.740 But at that time, Atlanta and the South were just kind of coming into the throne, right? 0.98

00:54:55.420 Like, we're talking 2001, 2002?

00:54:58.960 Nah, Atlanta been cracking since 92, 93.

00:55:02.840 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

00:55:04.940 That's not what I'm...

00:55:05.820 Crisscross.

00:55:07.180 Yeah, facts.

00:55:08.100 Crisscross, JBC.

00:55:09.560 That's like, Chris Smith was my best friend in school.

00:55:11.600 So I was really connected to it.

00:55:14.480 I don't mean, I don't mean, I shouldn't have said coming into their own.

00:55:16.780 I mean, taking over the hip hop, like, because if you think about it,

00:55:21.740 New York still had it till the end of the 90s, right?

00:55:24.300 Yeah.

00:55:24.580 And West Coast had it.

00:55:26.000 But Atlanta really, when did Atlanta really become what it is

00:55:30.980 and what it means to hip hop?

00:55:32.800 Outkast.

00:55:33.620 Yeah, I'm still saying Outkast.

00:55:35.480 For us, I would say Outkast.

00:55:36.860 Outkast really opened that, opened that down.

00:55:39.920 I can't speak for what Atlanta meant to everybody else.

00:55:42.660 Oh, got it, got it.

00:55:43.940 Yeah, that makes sense.

00:55:44.580 But for us, you know, we felt like we made it with OutKast and Goody Mob and, you know, TLC.

00:55:54.400 Like when LaFace was here.

00:55:55.820 Yeah.

00:55:56.280 You feel me?

00:55:57.380 When So-So Def was, you know what I mean?

00:55:59.980 They throwing events and, you know, you can go.

00:56:04.260 You might see Big Boy on Old National and then Cadillac.

00:56:08.900 You know what I'm saying?

00:56:09.920 You see Lowe on by Green, by Weed Gemma.

00:56:12.680 You might see Gilt them at J.J.

00:56:14.560 Real Shad.

00:56:15.220 That's when it felt like. 0.65

00:56:16.540 It felt like.

00:56:17.300 I feel connected.

00:56:18.580 Yeah, me too.

00:56:19.520 So wait, it sounds like you guys have more of a connection to that, like,

00:56:22.620 ATL-ians era. 0.67

00:56:24.200 Dungeon Family, for sure, for sure. 1.00

00:56:25.720 Then even like.

00:56:26.360 Rico Wade might be on Camberton.

00:56:28.160 That's right.

00:56:29.160 That's right.

00:56:29.640 You have to. 0.91

00:56:32.240 We've sold weed to rappers.

00:56:34.260 Yeah.

00:56:34.700 You feel me?

00:56:35.520 Nah, for real, no.

00:56:36.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:36.920 We've sold weed to rappers just in passing, you know.

00:56:39.920 Like, hey, man, you know, I guess we, yeah, right here.

00:56:42.700 You know what I'm saying?

00:56:43.840 Like, for real.

00:56:44.780 And didn't have no real conversation. 0.99

00:56:46.340 It wasn't no, hey, can you get me a record deal type shit. 0.96

00:56:48.680 It was just a conversation then passing. 0.96

00:56:51.440 And he was like, hey, man, yeah, man, I sold such a such a such, man.

00:56:54.280 I sold them all got their half-hounds there. 1.00

00:56:56.640 And that made us feel connected to the culture because we listening to this shit. 0.98

00:57:02.880 Can I ask you a question about current hip-hop? 0.99

00:57:05.160 Sure.

00:57:05.420 Do you think Kendrick is going to perform not like us at the Super Bowl?

00:57:10.900 Indubitably.

00:57:12.740 Indubitably.

00:57:13.600 Mm-hmm.

00:57:14.680 I mean, his biggest song right now.

00:57:16.320 Yeah, of course it is.

00:57:17.260 It's his biggest song.

00:57:18.560 I'm not going off of the impact that it had on Drake and his position in all of it.

00:57:29.720 i'm totally away from that just separating disregarding that completely it's kendrick's

00:57:37.300 biggest song scoreboard like from an average standpoint yeah one of his okay so what i'm

00:57:42.160 saying is it brought people who because you know i love kendrick and i've always respected his work

00:57:49.280 as a as an artist i've always you know but there have been times where he got a little deep got

00:57:54.640 a little too deep yeah you know what i'm saying i'm like man i'm gonna have to catch the next one

00:57:58.300 You feel me?

00:57:59.420 This is one where whether you enjoy the art part

00:58:03.400 or whether you just enjoy some jamming and music,

00:58:07.620 and he brought all of it together.

00:58:10.660 Do you think Drake would admit that?

00:58:14.060 Man, to be honest with you,

00:58:15.340 I ain't really in a position to really speak on.

00:58:18.620 I feel like Drake has a lot of reason to dislike that particular moment.

00:58:25.740 I think Drake will play a man.

00:58:27.020 And it's just a lot of people, everybody gets to talking, you know,

00:58:30.100 you hold back whatever you want.

00:58:31.480 Here's what Drake should do, honestly.

00:58:32.180 I feel like emotions run wild.

00:58:35.280 It just depends on how in tune or how much control he has over those emotions.

00:58:42.260 Yeah.

00:58:43.160 I think the situation is, I mean, their beef is crazy.

00:58:49.040 Is it really beef, though?

00:58:50.800 What are you saying?

00:58:52.120 I tend to reserve my right to not comment.

00:58:57.020 because i don't know how it started i don't know every all the details that existed

00:59:03.660 so i don't think you know i speak on the success of a song or or whether or not i think a song

00:59:10.540 would be performed but the you know the nuances of the entire disagreement i don't think i can

00:59:19.500 really speak i said that because i'm from the street like beef is different oh okay is it really

00:59:25.500 Yeah, well, didn't Drake's house, like, get a proper shot at?

00:59:29.640 You know, that's what I said.

00:59:30.860 I would have reserved my right.

00:59:32.300 To TI's point, like, there's other people involved.

00:59:35.460 But I think, like, listen, like, you're Drake.

00:59:37.900 Like, you see the scoreboard.

00:59:39.900 He knows the score, right?

00:59:41.520 The overall score, not the one-year score, right?

00:59:44.720 He's been in the other position as well, though.

00:59:46.800 Like, you know, to the point where, like, you know, he won a battle or something.

00:59:51.260 something if you're if you're mike if you're mike tyson if you're mike tyson and you're one of the

00:59:55.340 greatest boxers all the time or whoever whoever you want to use if somebody hits you hard you

01:00:00.440 you respect the shot you'll be like you know you you turn you might look at him and say you know

01:00:05.100 what you got me you got me that's what i would think that depends on where they are with their

01:00:09.040 emotions you would like that's you would assume but that's logical it depends on where mike is

01:00:13.860 with his emotions how much he got his emotions and do you want to convey that yeah he does

01:00:18.220 nowadays trust me Mike's real in tune with his emotions nowadays there are times you might get

01:00:23.760 your ear bit off that's very true that's very true yeah I mean now I think now like for the

01:00:29.340 past couple months Drake has had to go back and look at what the support looked like for the

01:00:34.060 record who's he still friends with you know and we'll see how we'll see how it all how it all

01:00:39.240 spins out yeah I mean you know I guess that's the best part about being in the audience yeah you

01:00:44.540 can just get to watch and you've you've collabed with one of the two right both of them oh both of

01:00:49.380 them yeah i remember when they both came in both of them i had the pleasure and the honor of of

01:00:55.760 being introduced to them when they were just stepping into the game you feel me um and i've

01:01:03.000 had the opportunity to work with them uh at that moment in their careers you feel me um

01:01:10.660 I worked with, I met Drake, you know, when he was probably right, was it probably right before he dropped, Best I Ever Had, you know what I'm saying, yeah, so, and I've had the pleasure and honor of, you know, watching, watching him evolve into the legend, the legendary artist that he is today.

01:01:36.640 uh and and same for kendrick i met kendrick when i was j getting out of prison um i think this is

01:01:44.580 like this is this is before good kid mad city this is like mixtape maybe section eight yeah yeah you

01:01:52.940 know right in there and um him him top uh a few a few of the cats uh from uh top dog they they came

01:02:03.480 through, I think they had like a tour that they was on. 0.99

01:02:06.700 They was out here promoting and working their shit. 0.98

01:02:10.100 And they came to Tree Sound, which is where I was recording. 0.99

01:02:14.800 And he sat me down and let me hear, you know,

01:02:18.920 a few songs from Good Kid, Mad City.

01:02:21.700 And I knew then, I was like, oh, Youngster, he valid.

01:02:25.800 He's very valid.

01:02:27.120 I think both of them don't.

01:02:29.160 You think that's still his best album?

01:02:30.320 I love that album.

01:02:31.200 I love that album. 1.00

01:02:32.160 I think, damn. 0.99

01:02:33.060 He has a lot of big 1.00

01:02:35.520 records. I've never had the pleasure

01:02:37.540 of working with

01:02:38.840 one of those guys, but I have heard

01:02:41.000 Drake shout me out in like three songs.

01:02:43.740 And then I heard

01:02:45.160 Kendrick give me a nod in one of his songs.

01:02:48.100 You know what I mean?

01:02:48.840 I just want to say this.

01:02:51.460 You don't have to shout me out. We can actually do

01:02:53.400 music.

01:02:55.380 It's crazy.

01:02:58.440 I'm getting a few

01:02:59.560 of these.

01:03:00.720 We have eight minutes, right?

01:03:02.340 what's

01:03:03.020 you could because we still got to get the

01:03:06.000 thumbnail and stuff

01:03:06.940 yeah what is it guys

01:03:10.440 okay yeah it's called thank god

01:03:12.280 man it's me dro

01:03:13.960 sunday service and kurt franklin

01:03:15.760 yeah you know it's an inspirational

01:03:18.260 spiritual vibe

01:03:20.320 cool

01:03:20.640 is that the wave you're on right now

01:03:23.280 I mean yeah for this

01:03:25.520 yeah this part of my

01:03:27.140 for this song

01:03:29.560 I'm not you know I'm not like

01:03:31.960 you know, transitioning over into gospel music.

01:03:35.800 But this song was, it spoke to me,

01:03:38.480 and it came together by the grace of God,

01:03:41.920 and I felt that it was powerful enough for me

01:03:46.500 to give the attention, the time, and the talent to it

01:03:51.940 that would get it to where it is,

01:03:53.700 to give it a fair shot.

01:03:55.680 And Dro, his testimony alone, I feel like,

01:03:59.900 It's something that the rest of the world didn't need to heal.

01:04:03.000 It was a chance for me to actually get out of my overdose.

01:04:06.480 Cool.

01:04:06.760 You know what I mean?

01:04:07.400 And to be able to talk about it and bring light to it.

01:04:10.160 And be a beacon of light or hope for other people that's going through the same thing.

01:04:14.680 Man, that's so cool.

01:04:15.620 When art can be that medium for people.

01:04:17.840 Right.

01:04:18.240 Yeah, that's so cool, man.

01:04:19.460 That's when it's used, I think, for the purpose that it was meant to be.

01:04:23.540 Yeah, for sure.

01:04:24.840 We could do this all day, guys.

01:04:26.460 I want to say I really appreciate the conversation.

01:04:28.960 this is cool

01:04:30.400 so like a bit of a different podcast

01:04:33.320 same space

01:04:34.380 thank you for sharing guys

01:04:37.320 thank you for sharing

01:04:39.640 and yeah thanks for blessing us

01:04:41.540 with your time man

01:04:42.280 man it's my pleasure man

01:04:43.740 and I mean hats off to you

01:04:46.360 you know what I'm saying

01:04:47.020 for turning your life around

01:04:48.840 I mean the success is great

01:04:50.220 the success is great

01:04:51.500 but just finding

01:04:52.260 finding peace

01:04:54.260 finding peace

01:04:55.340 in the midst of the chaos

01:04:57.120 and being able to overcome

01:04:58.520 addiction and you know all of the 0.99

01:05:01.080 bullshit that life threw at you 1.00

01:05:02.980 I mean that's solid 1.00

01:05:04.220 he should be dead by now dude 0.96

01:05:06.520 he just turned 40 and like 0.97

01:05:08.580 and you look good brother

01:05:09.520 a lot of moisturizer

01:05:11.480 and congratulations

01:05:15.200 man to you man for you know

01:05:17.060 what I'm saying for I guess

01:05:18.740 getting people to take you seriously

01:05:21.040 as a fighter

01:05:21.820 well 0.91

01:05:22.120 the people who cut the chicks

01:05:27.220 and the people who pay

01:05:29.740 you feel me

01:05:30.460 I think

01:05:31.020 you know

01:05:32.400 I think

01:05:32.880 when you fight Javante

01:05:34.480 I feel like that

01:05:35.260 when you know people

01:05:36.120 are really nice

01:05:36.820 when I'm

01:05:37.300 no

01:05:37.800 it's not

01:05:40.840 Javante's

01:05:42.120 bro

01:05:43.080 size matters 0.93

01:05:44.240 unfortunately 0.98

01:05:44.680 I don't give a fuck 0.99

01:05:45.280 how good you are 0.99

01:05:45.840 like

01:05:46.100 I learned it when I fought Floyd

01:05:47.680 like

01:05:48.060 bro 0.57

01:05:48.500 size matters 1.00

01:05:50.260 like 1.00

01:05:50.820 I would fucking kill Javante 1.00

01:05:52.520 he's 1.00

01:05:53.020 oh damn 0.99

01:05:53.740 I'm sorry 0.99

01:05:54.740 there we go 0.99

01:05:55.540 oh damn 0.98

01:05:56.100 Sorry, Javante, you're a great fighter 1.00

01:05:58.040 Stay in your lane and weight class 0.70

01:05:59.940 T.I. and Young Joe

01:06:01.580 Who do you want to fight next?

01:06:03.520 Bro, I'd love to fight McGregor

01:06:05.380 But he's owned

01:06:06.900 He's owned by the UFC

01:06:07.860 He can't do anything without Daddy Dana's permission

01:06:11.040 Just stick to the wrestling

01:06:11.780 What's the weight class

01:06:15.820 As far as by numbers

01:06:17.620 I think it goes

01:06:19.180 I think in boxing 205 is cruiserweight

01:06:21.340 And I think it's 185

01:06:23.580 Okay

01:06:24.320 is a big there's a pretty significant difference so you need somebody to be from 180 you can make

01:06:30.000 it up you can make up weight classes in these like exhibition type of bouts like you it can

01:06:35.560 it can be anything so who's your who's your favorite fighter like who you respect right now 0.60

01:06:40.020 i mean shit so i'm a big mma fan okay um it's gotta be it's gotta be perera alex perera 0.82

01:06:48.760 man he's like there's a point in like i've been following ufc forever there's some there's a point 0.97

01:06:53.800 in uh fighters careers where sometimes they're looking genuinely unbeatable and he's like he's

01:07:00.200 like at that level where it's i think he could become the first three division champion in

01:07:06.380 history which is fucking crazy right like there's been a couple like small amount of two division

01:07:13.600 champions two weight classes bro to go that's like a 40 pound difference you're that good and 0.66

01:07:19.640 I think he could do it.

01:07:20.500 Now, I don't know much about UFC.

01:07:22.600 How does he compare to Jones?

01:07:27.000 That fight, Pereira versus Jones, as a heavyweight fight, would be insane.

01:07:34.620 Jones is the GOAT.

01:07:36.820 He's the GOAT. 0.97

01:07:37.900 He's the GOAT.

01:07:38.760 He's the GOAT.

01:07:39.920 Undeniably the GOAT.

01:07:41.380 But that fight?

01:07:42.660 I have no idea.

01:07:43.860 And in boxing, my favorite in boxing right now is Bud Crawford.

01:07:49.280 Oh, come on.

01:07:50.160 Terrence is, yeah, he's so good, man.

01:07:52.560 Skill-wise, he's unmatched.

01:07:54.900 And intellect.

01:07:55.820 Like, EJ got a box in intellect, you know, and he worked.

01:07:59.460 The way he worked, you could just tell he grew up.

01:08:02.540 He said his mama used to send him to go fight kids.

01:08:05.940 You know what I'm saying?

01:08:06.860 He's incredible. 1.00

01:08:07.180 Like, you grew up, your mama sending you to kick ass. 1.00

01:08:10.780 That's crazy. 1.00

01:08:11.540 And just a good dude.

01:08:13.900 Don't worry about it.

01:08:14.640 We're going to get you caught up.

01:08:16.080 Off camera.

01:08:16.660 Yeah, we're going to get you.

01:08:17.440 before we go guys um can i can i have you just look down the barrel of that camera right there

01:08:22.000 yeah the barrel is crazy yeah wait did you say goodbye to everyone in the show yeah goodbye

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