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00:00:00.000 Hey, what's up? I'm Tony Gonzalez.

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00:00:28.460 the goat of goats tom brady how did you for so long stay so disciplined there was part of me

00:00:35.820 that was a psychopath out there even the competition motivated us to be better when

00:00:40.080 i played peyton manning i couldn't have an off day that dude was gonna throw for 350 yards and

00:00:44.420 when you're getting hit as you know there's a discipline with your physical body that you need

00:00:48.200 to take into account is there anyone that you were like afraid to get hit by a lot of guys

00:00:51.720 i saw a post i think from ab you were just making sure that he was getting to his psych

00:00:56.040 appointments what's your relationship like with antonio um biggest partier from the nfl roberto

00:01:01.120 gronkowski do you ever feel like all this is just a social construct to distract us from the fact

00:01:06.340 that we live on a spinning rock hurtling through space with no destination in mind you're right i

00:01:09.720 think about that a lot in the end 2017 my first super bowl you win the game in what was like one

00:01:15.440 of the greatest comebacks ever and definitely in super bowl history i'm always trying to fight

00:01:18.700 from behind like i was a late bloomer i just bloomed a little late in that super bowl too

00:01:22.560 Do you regret doing the roast of Tom Brady?

00:01:27.120 I went out late last night, and I got- Yeah, see, this is now-

00:01:39.120 And then I gotta travel this week, and there's only so much you can do.

00:01:43.360 I try to get up at 530 and get going, and I come home at three or four.

00:01:48.640 I was gonna ask about that, cuz my social battery as well is just horrible.

00:01:52.540 yeah i don't really have it actually not yours is yours is depleting i'm a dad now dude are you

00:01:57.580 really seven month old daughter like yeah congratulations man thanks yeah it's awesome

00:02:02.080 daughters are the best until they're 12. i can't wait and then there's a there's a dip for about

00:02:07.780 six years these are on you don't have to you can do whichever one you want we use them just to be

00:02:13.440 more professional you guys be professional we could take up micro cues from each other like

00:02:17.320 if he goes and i know he's about to say something i'll just read your body language yeah that works 0.87

00:02:21.480 damn dude he's gonna beat us he's like i don't even need to hear the micro stuff he's like i 0.89

00:02:26.240 just pick it up off dude i can't believe it i thought this was a joke yeah michael rubin was 0.99

00:02:30.700 like yeah dude i got you tom tom brady for the podcast i was like no no you didn't no way threw

00:02:35.440 us in the group chat i'm like oh my god dude so we're basically we're in a group chat now with

00:02:39.520 michael rubin that's awesome we got it worked out yeah thanks for joining us man you guys are in my

00:02:43.420 home state you're like 200 yards from my house this is like couldn't get any better oh no way

00:02:47.420 try to make things convenient for you tom thank you you did why can't everybody do it like that

00:02:51.540 actually i'm putting informal requests going forward everyone needs to be this convenient

00:02:54.900 or else i'm not doing it we do want to make it as easy as possible for you you did yeah you i could

00:02:59.320 have swam across from my house right there isn't that nice yeah literally i could have swam

00:03:03.540 you could throw two rocks that's insane yeah he probably could throw a rock and do it i don't

00:03:07.680 know about me you probably could no my arm it's you'd be surprised my coach in high school said

00:03:12.140 i was the most athletic unathletic kid he's ever coached really is that a compliment

00:03:17.100 yeah if you're the most athletic i some sports i just look really kind of like clunky out there

00:03:22.920 oh the throwing specifically yeah it's interesting because always people always measure athleticism

00:03:28.680 and they'll be like oh well he's a great athlete and he's and i've always said okay what constitutes

00:03:33.000 a great athlete yeah what does you know because i would be considered not a great athlete

00:03:38.440 right because in the nfl draft 199 right i didn't run that fast obviously i ran very slow and i

00:03:45.260 didn't jump very high but everything else i was actually pretty good at like i could hit a golf

00:03:50.300 ball 330 yards i could throw a football 70 yards i could hit a baseball out of a ballpark i could

00:03:56.160 hit i could play ping pong pool i could shoot threes i could pickle i just i could play pickle

00:04:00.840 i just can't jump or run but everyone who can jump or run is considered a great athlete but

00:04:05.020 they can't throw the ball or they can't hit a ball or they can't so it's it's kind of bizarre

00:04:09.740 what do you think the core metric really is do you think it's just performance in the discipline

00:04:13.640 that you've chosen i think there's um there's a lot to that because you why would you why are

00:04:19.420 you looking at me like that i like the way you look no do you have something you want to say

00:04:22.220 to me no because we can get this out of the way right now yeah get it out let's hash it out

00:04:24.940 seriously i don't i saw your i saw you snarkily like staring at me out of the corner of my eye

00:04:29.880 i didn't like it i was i swear to god i wasn't thinking about anything but now that you say

00:04:32.760 i am thinking like what the hell do you know about athleticism that's what i that's when i'm

00:04:36.820 asking questions i'm not making statements you barely walk about sports tell you what he did

00:04:40.920 heroin is that a sport it felt like i don't play that sport i was the goat of that sport

00:04:46.840 no well then you're still here you should be thankful i am i am very thankful tom can i ask

00:04:51.240 you a question not related to sports um no i don't do heroin that's good and no one else out

00:04:58.480 there should do it either for the record no no do you ever feel like all this is just a social

00:05:03.240 construct to distract us from the fact that we live on a spinning rock hurtling through space

00:05:06.400 with no destination in mind that's brilliant right there like life's short and like we may

00:05:10.960 take ourselves way too seriously yes and i'm not someone that takes much oh i take death seriously

00:05:17.960 certainly but you're right i think about that a lot in the end what really matters actually i

00:05:24.000 have a friend and i send a lot of like galaxy stuff and you know and then you're right when

00:05:28.460 you realize that's really what's going on why are we taking ourselves that seriously do you do you

00:05:33.420 think about death i think um taking ourselves too seriously or or or we're a mud ball just about

00:05:40.280 are you are you are you uh is mortality an obstacle in your mind is it something no it's coming for

00:05:46.200 all of us but i think like in the context of my life and i think the way that it's changed not

00:05:51.160 that i feel like i've changed much but i threw a football for a living and i was pretty good at it

00:05:57.480 I didn't cure cancer and when I realized that at a pretty young age of playing it gave me a lot of

00:06:03.900 perspective you know that like there's a lot of people out there who are heroes in real life

00:06:08.000 doing real life stuff that are really impacting the world in a positive way and we get glorified

00:06:12.420 because we do something well in a sport at this time in this era but the reality is what can we

00:06:18.260 do to pay it forward and I think like for me going forward it's always about how can I help other

00:06:22.080 people maximize their potential people came into my life at the right time when i was really open

00:06:28.480 to learning and i was taking in i was very curious about what kind of the world had to offer and they

00:06:34.480 took me under their wing and i feel like going forward i'm 47 i'll be 48 this year it's like

00:06:39.120 how do i do the same thing for other people as they go through their life and they're looking

00:06:43.120 for a mentor and i tried to be that way as a teammate when i played but now that i'm not

00:06:48.400 really a formal teammate of everyone really everybody i come across i just want to try to

00:06:53.200 add my two cents because a lot of people did that for me and it really

00:06:58.000 it really helped curate this incredible dream that i got to live out so humble yeah well i had a lot

00:07:06.720 of humble people around me and i think again it's when you realize that in the end it really doesn't

00:07:10.800 matter and i have three kids that mean the world to me and like how can i be the best example for

00:07:15.200 them to me it's like okay you wake up every day you show everybody respect you know you you try

00:07:20.480 your best at everything you do you know you have you always have a great heart you lead with your

00:07:24.800 heart you know you approach people you care about them and you know the world needs more people that

00:07:29.380 care about each other and that care about you know this social construct of everybody trying to live

00:07:34.820 their best life social construct great the question worked out it led to something great

00:07:38.940 Do you think about that level of deprecation on this sports or sports entertainment and what it means to the world and sometimes forget how important it is for people to be able to turn off that always important, always impactful part of their lives and Sunday sit down with the family, watch the game?

00:07:58.760 Do you ever think that maybe what you did kind of was important to a lot of people?

00:08:02.080 important and i think it was there's very few things that transcend the the the social norms

00:08:09.820 or transcend all the you know the race the gender the age the socio-economic background

00:08:16.880 and sports does that it's those stadiums and it's real life and it plays out and i was saying this

00:08:22.100 to a friend last night and i was in the context of football players because there was a few guys

00:08:25.720 that i was sitting at dinner last night that i really like and i was like you know i said to my

00:08:29.580 friends that football players are the best guys and they're just hard working there's such a

00:08:36.840 meritocracy in professional football if you're the best you will play and like you don't feel like

00:08:43.020 there's a few guys who are about themselves but for the most part they're about each other

00:08:47.420 and and there's nothing like being a locker room full of people that care about you and you care

00:08:51.680 about them and i just feel like that's like man how do we get that in a broader society you know

00:08:57.400 like the government for example like people that just want to work together no we're not going to

00:09:01.620 get political yeah i know good we can't solve the problems of humanity on the show today

00:09:05.980 it'll take a few more episodes but you talked about this uh mentorship and how important it

00:09:12.500 is for you to mentor other people um man i could go two different ways with this right now who would

00:09:18.300 who would you describe as the most important mentor in your life as you as you came up through

00:09:22.200 the ranks there's not one okay and i it's like i look at phases of my life and i just they kind

00:09:27.160 of added on as I went um my dad was my greatest my dad and mom set the foundation for who I am

00:09:32.920 my mom's the you know sweetest most caring loving woman gave me like a great foundation always

00:09:38.640 believed in me when no one else did I said I was very slow I couldn't run she said honey you're

00:09:43.340 the fastest on the field I'm like mom you know but the moms believe in you so much and they give

00:09:48.140 you this sense of confidence even though you really shouldn't have it and my dad was my idol

00:09:53.100 like I had three older sisters I wanted to play football and he was like there every step of the

00:09:58.200 way with me dad I want to go to this camp he drove me to the camp you know and I wasn't even at a

00:10:03.480 football school I didn't even realize this would really be my career path but like he was always

00:10:08.180 there after every game you know I show up win or lose he was there to like embrace me and love me

00:10:13.520 and I think that family gave me the best foundation I had three great sisters that were like show up

00:10:19.280 to my games at Michigan just the three of them ready to fight people in the stands that they 0.52

00:10:22.740 were talking shit about their brother you know and then you know i get drafted i there was a

00:10:26.960 sports psychologist i had at michigan who taught me how to like see things through a different 0.98

00:10:32.520 perspective when i felt sorry for myself or i wasn't getting the opportunities he would say 0.97

00:10:37.120 like man fuck that like stop worrying about all the things that don't go your way and start focusing 0.99

00:10:42.080 on the things that are going your way and do better with those and like quit worrying quit 1.00

00:10:46.480 looking at the guy next to you and saying well he's getting more he's getting this like just do

00:10:51.180 the best with what you got and then i had a guy who taught me how to throw football tom martinez

00:10:55.600 he passed away uh around 2011 taught me literally like from the time i was in high school in 1990

00:11:03.620 1995 he was always you know 1993 i started working with him as a as a to work on my

00:11:11.440 throwing mechanics and then i get drafted by bill belichick and he's a mentor and then alex

00:11:16.760 Guerrero comes into my life in 2022 and I can't throw a football because my arm's killing me

00:11:21.360 and he takes me under his wing and we become best friends and I learned so much about health and

00:11:26.400 wellness in my body and there's no way I could accomplish what I did in my career without him

00:11:31.100 so I just look at this as like so many people coming along that like how lucky am I to have

00:11:37.540 these people come into my life and say and then there's a lot of other people along the journey

00:11:41.460 to Josh McDaniels one of my great coaches and business mentors people that I looked up to and

00:11:46.320 psychologists that came into my life and and helped me in so many ways so i i don't know we

00:11:51.600 should all be really open to learning like there's a great line that this i heard from this guy said

00:11:56.240 guru said what we know yeah he's amazing he's amazing you know what we know is limited what we

00:12:01.940 what we don't know is limitless and like okay like let's learn let's be open let's go into things

00:12:08.340 with you know our ears open to listen and learn and i think that's a great part about it i want

00:12:13.720 to uh actually draw a comparison between you uh and another goat who happens to be my boss triple

00:12:20.220 h he uh he just got inducted into the wwe hall of fame and in his speech he's saying a lot of

00:12:25.660 things that you're actually saying right now he was just so thankful for everyone who helped him

00:12:30.140 along the way and he didn't attribute his greatness to really himself that much it was it was the

00:12:36.240 people around him and the people that helped push him in the right direction and i think uh the

00:12:40.420 humility that you both uh exhibit is is super inspiring but that's one thing about you that's

00:12:45.900 always separated you from other people who are at the top of their game dude your mindset your

00:12:51.140 mindset is unbelievable and and and um i'm someone who has a lot of drive and and i want to uh do

00:12:57.200 great things in this life and hopefully entertain in a way that can help people detach like we spoke

00:13:02.980 about earlier which i think is is is really useful for a lot of people because man life's hard but

00:13:07.400 to be able to you know watch a wrestling match and see a move and get a dopamine spike at home

00:13:13.160 or to me that's that that feels like my current journey but how did you for so long stay so

00:13:21.900 disciplined in your sport because the longevity of your career and performing at the level you did

00:13:27.440 and even having like a second wind at the tail end of your career is just one of the most

00:13:30.980 astounding things I think that anyone's ever seen in sports yeah I was just I was blessed to to to

00:13:37.000 love what I did for a job just like you're doing now you know it's like you really have to love it

00:13:41.840 because I think that's what when you wake up in the morning you bounce out of bed that's that's

00:13:47.560 the way to do it it's like okay what do I got going today what purpose do I have to to jump up

00:13:51.440 out of bed and I think football you could look at as a sport but to me it was all about like

00:13:56.360 relationships and teammates so you know even mentors you know I talk about some people who

00:14:01.200 I would say were more my teachers then I have like my teammates who are my motivators and I

00:14:06.600 didn't want to let those guys down and there was a lot of those you know rodney harrison and ty law

00:14:11.260 and and kevin falk and wes welker and randy moss and mike evans and chris godwin and gronk and

00:14:18.400 julian like you just don't when you know they're putting a lot on the line their body their family

00:14:24.480 their time you don't want to let them down and so you there's there's an accountability to sports

00:14:30.340 like you get in the ring with someone who's a great wrestler you want your best well for the

00:14:36.620 crowd certainly and for yourself but that guy's putting a lot on the line too so you're like i

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00:16:15.120 Hey, what's up? I'm Tony Gonzalez.

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00:16:24.080 Where we get real about marriage, parenthood, sex, divorce, and all the nitty gritty stuff we all think about.

00:16:30.040 But just don't say it out loud.

00:16:31.120 I hate that job.

00:16:32.040 You're probably just going to meet with some rich guy and he's going to whisk you away and I'll never see you again. 0.95

00:16:37.320 Would you say a D-less actor?

00:16:40.740 D?

00:16:42.720 I don't even know there's such a thing as D.

00:16:44.540 No, no, no.

00:16:45.180 I mean like.

00:16:45.560 I can't even get on the C-list.

00:16:46.640 Like I'm not even average.

00:16:47.500 I'm not even passing.

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00:16:59.820 this up we're in this rhythm we have this cadence this is a performance and people are people are

00:17:08.440 dedicating their time they could do anything to watch you to pay attention to what you're doing

00:17:14.860 and they're they chose you so like what responsibility do you have to those people

00:17:20.240 who chose you when they're right they're working two jobs working construction working in supermarkets

00:17:25.440 they got a little bit of free time they come home and they put you on like that's a great

00:17:30.020 responsibility it's it's funny because i feel like what you just said right there this responsibility

00:17:34.000 to the to the public not every person in the spotlight feels that and that is something that

00:17:40.220 i feel like probably comes from your upbringing yeah from the teaching for your parents and so

00:17:43.980 like the way you explained it, I believe is probably is correct. It's an amalgamation of

00:17:47.320 all of these different things, talent or hard work out of the two of them, which one is a more

00:17:52.760 important ingredient to the type of success that you've seen? Hard work, hard work, a hundred

00:17:57.300 percent. And I, and I, I have real life examples, not just in sports, but in business. I mean,

00:18:02.500 I know a lot of guys that aren't Harvard MBAs. I have a couple of friends, my friend, Michael

00:18:06.760 Rubin at fanatics. It's like, yeah. And I love Michael, my friend, Mike Rapoli at noble. He's

00:18:12.520 like all the Harvard guys work for me because I got it you know I was a 2.2 GPA you know I got

00:18:16.860 all these Harvard guys we're in and look I'm not disparaging to Harvard at all that's a great

00:18:20.280 school I could never got in there the closest I got was a charity football game playing on like

00:18:24.160 the field with you know for best buddies but it was like these guys are just they're they they're

00:18:29.820 they got all the traits and I think the ones that are really sustainable because even in sports

00:18:34.740 you you have in order to be your best you need to maximize your physical your mental and your

00:18:41.360 emotional and we're talking about physical you're talking about talent which is great and that's a

00:18:45.600 that's a that's a great bar to set you need to have the height the weight the speed the ability

00:18:50.800 the physical ability but then you need to me the ability to learn process information taking lots

00:18:57.300 of information to be able to apply it take what you're learning from the meeting room out to a

00:19:00.880 field and then you need to bring a competitive stamina to practice every day to be your best

00:19:05.480 and I was talking with my friend earlier this week and he was like well what separated you

00:19:08.820 on the football field and I was like I think I was there was a degree there was part of me that

00:19:13.220 was a psychopath out there because I was I was extremely hyper competitive every day I didn't

00:19:19.820 feel like okay let's get to Sunday and then now it's the time like every day was the time and

00:19:24.880 every day is the time to give your best and even if it's practice do your best in practice and I

00:19:30.100 learned that in college like if I didn't do my best in practice I wasn't going to play on the

00:19:34.460 weekend because there was no entitlement. So I had to work hard to prove to my teammates,

00:19:39.720 hey, I'm ready to go. I got to be there. I got to show up. I got to be ready. I got to treat this

00:19:43.920 game like it matters more than anything. Well, when my teammates feel that, guess who else has

00:19:48.660 to raise the bar? My teammates, because I'm bringing the juice every day. Exactly. So that's

00:19:55.120 what leaders do. Leaders don't have days off. They show up every day and they're like, I'm giving my

00:20:00.380 best well why that's for me great but it's also going to make them better and then when they're

00:20:05.220 better we're better and then we don't have to wait to sunday to get better we could get better

00:20:09.720 on wednesday thursday friday because that's the competition and then the season ends march april

00:20:15.320 may june when no one's watching what are we doing and if we're all getting better five percent better

00:20:20.420 or eight percent better and they're not well over time who wins that the guys that are that are

00:20:24.760 getting better not the guys that are i live would grow up man at three not there yeah i'm glad i

00:20:31.240 met dave and got closer later in my life you know but yeah you see maybe a little looser than when

00:20:37.580 you were playing is that true yeah but that's natural because like there's a there's more of

00:20:42.440 a regimen to to plan and when you're getting hit as you know there's a discipline with your 0.99

00:20:47.420 physical body that you need to take into account because if you fuck around you're going to get 0.94

00:20:52.480 hurt and that's it's different than a lot of i think sports where they're not that physical 0.99

00:20:57.580 yeah maybe like soccer or maybe like baseball or basketball to a degree but i think like if you

00:21:02.880 play hockey if you play mma um compete in mma like you don't mess around with your training because

00:21:09.100 you will pay the price when you got aaron donald chasing you you will pay the yeah i was gonna ask

00:21:13.680 is there anyone that you were like afraid to get hit by a lot of guys

00:21:16.640 indomitian sue maybe ray lewis was at the top uh indomitian sue i didn't like getting hit by him

00:21:24.100 yeah um jj watt wasn't very fun to get hit by i figured you'd say jj yeah haloti nada you remember

00:21:30.120 him he was about 340 pounds played for the ravens he was a he was massive so yeah like

00:21:35.440 that that's not fun that's yes and that's the that's the physical side you you i saw

00:21:42.500 something you brought this physical mental emotional trifecta and I saw a post I think from

00:21:48.460 ab yesterday on twitter uh you were just making sure that he was getting to his his psych

00:21:54.420 appointments yeah he thought that that was a yeah that was that was what's your relationship like

00:21:59.820 with with Antonio we've had him on the show yeah I mean I I I wanted the best for him you know I

00:22:04.220 think I saw a spark in him that I thought if it put in the right place you know how incredible it

00:22:10.500 could be for not just the team he was on but for his life and what he could accomplish and

00:22:14.160 you know I just I always hope for the best for for him and I met him and I always admired him

00:22:21.640 as a player and then I got to play with him and I actually saw in the meeting room like how he

00:22:25.700 could take information and bring it to the field and we we picked him up at the Patriots and he

00:22:31.180 played one game the opener second game of the year against Miami and then the next week in practice

00:22:36.400 we're playing the jets it was a wednesday thursday friday practice we didn't have an incompletion

00:22:41.940 the entire week of practice like that's basically unheard of yeah and we released him friday

00:22:48.440 afternoon and then you know there was just a lot of things that were happening in his life and that

00:22:53.660 he needed to focus on and the team decided the patriots said no you know we're not dealing with

00:22:58.080 this and there were league had some issues and then we ended up going to tampa and then he came

00:23:02.480 back after a suspension in Tampa and I just thought okay if I can help him like I'd love to

00:23:07.860 help him because he'd help our team he'd help his life and then um you know I just again I always

00:23:13.940 root for the best you know it's cool it's cool it's um there's a saying you know check in on

00:23:19.160 your friends and it's it's cool to see you doing it in practice you're a great leader you're you're

00:23:23.520 a great leader I uh I think not a lot of people have the capacity to work well with others like

00:23:32.200 you do the idea of being on a team sport and having to rely on everyone else to do their jobs

00:23:39.140 it takes a lot of trust in people but as he says leadership comes from the top down you know and

00:23:45.280 i think i think these guys were definitely lucky to have you at the helm um kind of guiding that

00:23:49.840 ship i wanted to ask you can i say one thing about leadership i always define leadership as

00:23:54.560 do you care about your teammates or your co-workers and do you care what we're trying

00:24:00.380 to accomplish that to me is great leadership and like there's a lot of people that go about those

00:24:05.160 different ways some people are more vocal some people are more action oriented but I think

00:24:09.180 whether it's verbal or whether it's action you'll still it will still reflect upon those two goals

00:24:14.960 like but if it's about me my glorification or my money or my agenda there's not a caring element

00:24:23.200 to the people that you're working with and it's also not an element about how we doing this as

00:24:28.420 a team because football is a team sport i didn't choose an individual sport so i needed everybody

00:24:32.780 to be good i needed every player every coach so i needed to be the example but i actually had to

00:24:38.500 let them know that guys this is about us this isn't about this is us and you do that a lot of

00:24:43.020 different ways and then okay what are we trying to accomplish we're trying to be our best every day

00:24:47.960 how are we going to do that and then you put the plan in action but in this world today there's so

00:24:53.060 many people that are me focused you know and I think that's a big difference from when I look

00:24:58.460 back maybe previously to you know this era of social media where we all have our own

00:25:04.460 production businesses and we're all trying to self-promote and there's there's a place for

00:25:09.900 that for sure but in team sports that should not be the main priority like if you're off season

00:25:16.120 and you've got to promote products and sell products and you want to bring awareness to

00:25:20.100 certain things it could be a foundation it could be a business cool with that yeah but if you're

00:25:24.540 trying to take away from what the team's trying to accomplish as we go on a mission to beat the

00:25:29.060 other teams that we're competing against well then then we're gonna have a problem because we're not

00:25:35.120 gonna be all committed to the same goal you're gonna have one goal you're gonna have a goal i'm

00:25:39.080 gonna have a goal all 53 guys in the we're all gonna have like what yeah how do we accomplish

00:25:43.360 Here's the one goal.

00:25:44.340 I bet your teammates were just so disappointed if they ever let you down.

00:25:50.920 Was that the case?

00:25:51.760 I can't imagine.

00:25:53.660 Did you ever, if someone didn't do their job, and maybe repeatedly,

00:25:59.920 how do you deal with someone who's constantly not performing at the level

00:26:03.720 that you know they can?

00:26:05.340 I think in football there were a lot of layers they had to get through

00:26:08.640 before it got to me.

00:26:10.220 They were still a general manager that they had to satisfy. 0.86

00:26:12.540 and a position coach i think for me it was uh i didn't really we all fucked up i was i threw a

00:26:21.100 lot of interceptions i threw a lot of bad passes made a lot of bad reads that happens physical 0.72

00:26:26.680 mistakes happen mental mistakes happen to a degree you know you you go into you go into the huddle

00:26:33.760 and i'm there's 70 000 fans and i rattle off a play call and in the in the call i have two

00:26:39.060 different calls you know i have one play with an alert to a next play if i like a different i get

00:26:44.060 to the line of scrimmage and then i change the play and then i signal a route to someone

00:26:48.220 there's a lot of things going on so like yeah i can live with some mental mistakes you know

00:26:53.560 and because i made them i made mistakes too i get pissed if we weren't competitive i'd get pissed

00:27:00.020 if we weren't focused i'd get pissed if we showed up late like i think more the intangible things

00:27:05.440 would bother me yeah rather than a guy dropping a ball yeah if a guy dropped the ball hey come on

00:27:10.100 we'll get the next one you know if a guy didn't give his heart and soul to the team i had a problem

00:27:15.880 with that okay okay yeah and what would like no one can be lacking around you yeah because that's

00:27:22.080 just for a high performing organization like i was in we couldn't beat other teams if we were

00:27:28.740 operating at 70 okay bill would always say don't just expect to roll your helmet out on the field

00:27:34.260 and think that they're going to quit yeah like you better go earn it and when you get to be one

00:27:39.320 of the top teams every team that you play they're they're measuring you're the measuring stick for

00:27:46.300 where they're at so even if they lose and they keep it competitive they're like we were close

00:27:50.980 yeah but we lost yeah you know but for us because we had this high bar like we had to do it and

00:27:59.680 And that, to me, was the element of sport where, like, even the competition motivated us to be better.

00:28:05.240 When I played Peyton Manning, I couldn't have an off day.

00:28:08.020 That dude was going to throw for 350 yards.

00:28:10.440 How could I have an average day and expect to win?

00:28:13.020 So even the competition motivated us.

00:28:15.400 Let me ask you something.

00:28:16.980 This competitiveness that you're describing, man, sometimes I'll be playing, like, backgammon or pickleball with my fiance,

00:28:24.160 and she's so competitive that it actually is not fun.

00:28:27.540 You know, like, she's too competitive.

00:28:29.120 and then we get in fights and the day is ruined uh are you so competitive that it makes

00:28:34.420 normal trivial sports not so fun yeah that's a great question and how old are you 30 you're 30

00:28:42.000 okay yeah yeah i mean i think that's when i was probably 30 i was more like that too where

00:28:47.840 everything had to be competitive but now that i'm a little bit older i'm a little more selectively

00:28:52.940 competitive you know because i do think you do need to have like a little bit of decompression

00:28:57.360 a little bit i had to tell her like yo they were playing backgammon like i know it's not a big

00:29:02.480 deal dude like yeah if if i like beat her yeah like i don't so listen don't play with her and

00:29:09.460 you know like we have a thing now we'll let her win and just i had to do that yeah yeah should

00:29:14.120 we shake hands to say friendly game yeah like it's what actually yes it's an obligation yeah

00:29:18.840 we have to let me do an intro here real quick i never got to do it go ahead ladies and gentlemen

00:29:22.920 it's the goat of goats tom brady what do you think about the timing of that on that intro

00:29:28.440 i normally do it at the beginning dude you're good we got a good audience ask ask about the

00:29:32.500 goat of goats i mean like you you're in a weird place because i think the perception is that

00:29:38.640 you're the only definitive the only definitive goat of a sport okay like there's no conversation

00:29:44.160 there now we've had we've had mahomes on the show before yeah okay amazing we'll see what happens

00:29:50.180 over the next several years but when you look at basketball you've got lebron you've got mj you've

00:29:55.440 got kobe when you look at you know tennis you've got these players when you look at golf you've got

00:29:59.280 these players why is it that you are such a standout in in football and there's no people

00:30:06.240 are willing to put that title on you so confidently so you're asking a question about why other people

00:30:15.080 would do something for me i i think forget this question thank you i agree messier ronaldo

00:30:19.560 messier ronaldo god that's hard that's hard i'm not even answering that question i like

00:30:26.280 them both too much i like them both too much uh go f1 driver uh lewis yeah it's gotta be

00:30:33.540 greatest ever wwe wrestler um hulk hogan biggest partier from the nfl

00:30:42.280 roberto gronkowski

00:30:45.660 yo soy fiesta

00:30:49.180 um greatest golfer tiger yeah yeah it's just interesting because you are we

00:30:58.380 it's a ridiculous debate and i see it on sports all the time and it's like everyone's just blah

00:31:03.660 blah blah like one year you know like there were greatness defined over what you know

00:31:12.200 over a career like I was on a I was on a pod I was on a thing with uh Peyton Manning this week

00:31:18.200 and we were talking about the Mount Rushmore of NFL receivers including tight ends yeah and like

00:31:24.920 we there was a lot of great arguments going back and forth about you know Jerry Rice has great stats

00:31:30.280 but and he was obviously in it and like I picked Gronk as one of mine but like Tony Gonzalez has

00:31:37.360 way more catches than him it's just are we talking about over a period of time or one year one game

00:31:43.340 yeah like what's the metric what's the metric yeah and i think everyone defines that a little

00:31:46.680 bit differently i think our producer dylan has something for you how would you define the

00:31:51.420 difference between greatest and best yeah how would you define the you've heard the chaos now

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00:33:46.920 such a thing as D. No, no, no. I mean like

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00:34:02.160 you get your podcast very good that's an interesting oh you nailed that yeah i just

00:34:09.480 think it's like how often can you be great how often can you be consistency because consistency

00:34:15.480 of great everyone can do great things yeah but if you do if you're a golfer and you make a birdie

00:34:20.820 and then a bogey and then a birdie then a bogey then a birdie bogey at the end of the day you

00:34:24.160 shoot par and your average if you make two birdies for every bogey you know it's a great round if you

00:34:31.160 make three birdies for every bogey so we all make bogeys the question is how many birdies can you

00:34:37.760 make and in football like i would say i threw 700 passes a year in my mind i threw about 10 to 20 of

00:34:45.960 those perfectly out of 700 so 680 times was imperfect now you may not know where i was

00:34:55.640 trying to throw the ball you may think man he threw a perfect pass in my mind i had a vision

00:34:59.840 for that pass that was different than what happened so my view of being great is how often

00:35:06.720 can the artist replicate perfection on a daily basis you know and i think greatness comes from

00:35:14.940 different things it's not just physical there's a mental emotional aspect as well to being great

00:35:21.560 you can't be a peak performer if you're not competitive every day there were some of the

00:35:27.040 best physical athletes i ever had that were not competitive every day there were some of the

00:35:32.620 lesser physical athletes that were competitive every day and those lesser physical athletes

00:35:38.640 who were competitive every day were champions they won multiple super bowls you know there's

00:35:43.500 a great example of that julian edelman wasn't the biggest wasn't the fastest tough competitive

00:35:51.060 grimy three superbowls so he was a champion but people would say well calvin johnson was more

00:35:58.240 physically gifted uh there's a lot of them out there but julian's a champion so i don't know

00:36:04.540 everyone gets to define it how they want to yeah i write this newsletter 199 and i actually wrote

00:36:08.960 about it this week i want to talk about 199 yeah dude crazy crazy yeah 199th yeah in the draft

00:36:17.800 and then you end up becoming i i i'll go ahead and say like pretty objectively in football

00:36:23.300 the greatest of all time and that's not the only uh i don't know setback or maybe maybe

00:36:29.580 i don't know was it was that a was that a setback for you like was being pick a pick 199th

00:36:35.840 kind of like demotivating in any way it was it was one of the one of the most important things

00:36:40.560 that happened in my career too and it's i think in some ways it defines a great story but it's also

00:36:46.400 uh i just i i had a i had a different challenges that i had to overcome over a long period of time

00:36:54.320 and it started that was one of them and it look there's nothing wrong with being picked one in

00:36:58.880 199 you probably won't get as many chances than the guy who gets picked number one or number 19

00:37:07.560 or number 39 when you're 199 you don't have a ton of chances but you will get a chance

00:37:13.820 and I think anyone involved in athletics as long as you get a chance you know you're the one that

00:37:19.240 to blame if it doesn't work out for you and I think a lot of self-defeating attitudes

00:37:24.900 and behaviors that people have is when the first thing that comes out of their mouth if it doesn't

00:37:31.320 work is well I just didn't get the opportunity like I never got a chance and I'm always like

00:37:36.840 man you're out there practice every they film every practice if you're making plays everyone

00:37:43.160 wants good players on the field like look at yourself in the mirror and say like what do I

00:37:48.000 got to do to get better what do I have to do to earn the trust of my teammates and coaches go ask

00:37:52.380 them go figure it out work harder work you know work on the physical work on the mental work on

00:37:57.620 the emotional so have the humility to look in the mirror and self-evaluate and I don't think a lot

00:38:03.820 of people do that I think most people want to do the things they're good at like if I'm fast I want

00:38:09.380 to work on my speed if I'm strong I want to work on my strength if I throw the ball far I want to

00:38:15.200 work on that my view is if I have a great arm I throw up far I want to hit all the short ones too

00:38:20.500 because I know I could throw a deep if I'm really fast like I got to work on the other parts of my

00:38:25.360 game that don't involve speed so I can round out my game so you're saying work on your weaknesses

00:38:29.760 just as much as your absolutely like like the season ends I remember like and and I think there

00:38:35.580 are intangibles you're born with like certain guys are born six foot eleven right they're not

00:38:39.840 their choice it just that's what happened there I think for me I was born competitive like that

00:38:46.060 just happened and there was an environment around me that cultivated that competitiveness like my

00:38:51.080 family but there was something in me that little dna you know that that won the race that was

00:38:59.420 competitive did you see did you see that news did you see that new sport of sperm racing by any chance

00:39:05.240 that somehow came up i don't know bro what i can explain it really male fertility male fertility

00:39:12.480 It's like it's a promotion on being healthy, reproducing.

00:39:16.400 But you know what I'm talking about.

00:39:17.400 Yeah, of course.

00:39:17.880 This new sport.

00:39:18.800 It was created by a 17-year-old.

00:39:20.200 They asked me to announce it.

00:39:22.520 Oh, no.

00:39:22.960 They say compete.

00:39:23.660 I was like, no way.

00:39:24.500 No, no, no, no.

00:39:24.880 My thing would go backwards.

00:39:26.880 Actually, I don't even think it.

00:39:28.300 It swims in circles.

00:39:30.080 We did a competition once.

00:39:31.820 We're working hard, but we're not going anywhere.

00:39:34.140 No, it's not.

00:39:34.680 Why are they going that way?

00:39:36.060 Tom, they're not even working.

00:39:37.380 No, they're dead.

00:39:38.160 We tested them.

00:39:39.020 We tested.

00:39:39.380 We did a vlog to see who was the most fertile I was. 0.98

00:39:42.480 really i got a seven-month-old yeah but to prove it uh can i his his work you'd never seen sperms 0.94

00:39:48.280 behave like this in your life these things can i say this i broke some of the rules i broke some

00:39:54.080 of the rules i don't even want to know what the rules are no do not use spermicidal lube so you 0.95

00:39:58.440 and i know this is getting and you can't ejaculate for five days no but there was another big one

00:40:04.220 you're not supposed to utilize another person don't say utilize that's crazy you're not supposed 0.74

00:40:10.600 to collaborate with another human you're not supposed to uh collaborate with another human

00:40:15.820 to produce the sample okay and i collaborated with another human to produce the sample and

00:40:21.960 not just any human this chick could produce samples out of i mean i mean this yeah anyway

00:40:28.480 anyway listen um yeah so anyways uh we need the disclaimer to come because i have three kids that

00:40:35.540 are probably going to want to watch this so before that last segment let's yeah my daughter too but

00:40:40.540 she's not old enough yet but this will be you know i'll live on forever yeah yeah yeah we have

00:40:45.300 to address something okay the not your sperm again no forget that no sperm no heroin just leave it 0.96

00:40:50.500 leave it leave it alone we're talking about going late in the draft elephant in the room 0.52

00:40:55.180 should our sanders what happened tom why why why did he go so late in the draft i mean there's

00:41:02.820 i i it's a good question i was i wasn't a part of any evaluation process or to see that otherwise

00:41:12.500 no no well everyone's got every you know that's the problem with media is everyone can just say

00:41:17.000 whatever the fuck they want get away with it crazy it's kind of unfortunate because there

00:41:20.820 actually used to be a lot of integrity in media and there's way less now because everyone needs 0.97

00:41:25.240 crazy voices to get heard and it actually probably hurts a lot of relationships which is

00:41:30.580 not the goal of you know broadcasting it should be to develop and cultivate and solve problems and

00:41:36.240 rather than the critiques i want people to offer solutions all the time so

00:41:39.580 nobody knows and i i actually texted shador because i know him very well and i said dude

00:41:45.600 like whatever happens wherever you go like that's your first day day two matters more than the draft

00:41:52.860 i was 199 yeah so who could speak on it better than me like what that really means use it as

00:41:58.900 motivation you're gonna get your chances go take advantage of it so everyone makes like I remember

00:42:05.380 like when they were talking about Aaron Rodgers sliding and Aaron slid to like 21 in the first

00:42:10.320 round or whatever it was I'm like dude you're the 21st pick in the first round I think they still

00:42:14.840 think you're pretty good you know like you're still a great player you're a first round pick

00:42:19.500 in the NFL there's only 32 of those guys every year so use it as motivation like wherever you

00:42:26.320 end up going you still have the it's about your performance like what do you do when you get there

00:42:31.220 because you're going to get there I was around some of the best players were undrafted free agents

00:42:36.380 you know they were Rodney Harrison like Rodney Harrison wasn't a high pick like he was Julian

00:42:42.400 Edelman wasn't a high pick Wes Welker wasn't a high pick Danny Amendola all those guys were

00:42:47.520 phenomenal players so what's it matter like other than some overhyped day where a lot of people are

00:42:53.180 selling stories and saying all right this is the big day and this is the draft and it's an important

00:42:57.900 day and it's fun and i love you know watching it and seeing it but like i've also been there on day

00:43:02.900 two and they got to show up and actually learn a playbook learn be a part of a locker room and

00:43:07.640 there's a lot of growth that needs to happen alongside what skip said and and the media said

00:43:13.820 obviously it's just been such a hot story how do you and you you've come up in it numerous times

00:43:19.680 how do you decide which of the things that are said you actually want to respond to because you

00:43:24.100 did have a response for skip right i don't think i did no i think for the most part i never respond

00:43:29.260 because it just goes out the next day anyway and there's so much i think maybe one of the benefits

00:43:33.660 of all the social media is it just goes out the next day the news cycle is getting so quick

00:43:39.640 nowadays man i i think it's about 36 hours until like what was the biggest news yesterday is gone 0.78

00:43:45.960 people just don't give a fuck about it yeah it's crazy the churn that's happening right now you 0.58

00:43:50.740 almost have to take the like the mindset will i respond to everything or will i respond to nothing 0.97

00:43:56.020 that's like a it's almost like a commentary viewpoint you almost at that point you just

00:43:59.380 become a part of the commentary community i want to ask one more question about shador how do you

00:44:04.160 see him fitting into the offense in cleveland and what does he have to do to prove himself in that

00:44:10.460 organization yeah he's got to show up every day and what i say about leadership you got to as

00:44:15.020 quarterback you have to be a leader and the me the leader is do I care about my teammates and do I

00:44:19.460 care about what we're trying to accomplish like rules one and two and I would say that to every

00:44:23.060 quarterback that I ever come across and if they're listening do that because that's what's endearing

00:44:28.980 to your teammates and you're not just appealing to your 22 year old rookie you're appealing to

00:44:33.860 the 32 year old veteran who's trying to get the last couple years out of his career you're appealing

00:44:38.740 to the coach who doesn't want to get fired you're appealing to the owner who's made an investment in

00:44:43.500 you you're appealing to the the staff who are all writing their lives are writing on the fact that

00:44:49.780 you need to perform well so like the only thing that mattered to me over that over time were my

00:44:54.640 teammates like did they feel like i gave them the best chance to win when i got in the huddle

00:44:59.020 and we were down and i said come on let's go you know let's it's time they they rose to the

00:45:06.480 occasion let me ask a question based on that thought all right 2017 i went to my first super

00:45:14.220 bowl patriots falcons oh man dog yeah it's halftime it's 28 to 3 i tom i i stopped paying

00:45:25.280 attention yeah i was like this bro this is so boring these patches getting slapped yeah all

00:45:30.720 sudden third quarter he has to score some points fourth quarter you come back and you win the game

00:45:35.780 yeah you win the game and what was like what the greatest comeback one of the greatest comebacks

00:45:40.160 ever and definitely in Super Bowl history yeah it was insane yeah what do you say to your teammates

00:45:46.000 when you're in the locker room at halftime down 25 yeah we were we were uh Bill when we left the

00:45:54.260 locker room going to the second half and there were some positive things we did in the first half

00:45:58.720 and we were on the field a lot offensively so we knew their defense was a little tired we just

00:46:02.660 didn't execute well to to score the points and and those guys were playing really good but he said

00:46:07.680 guys it was 21 three at half and he said 21 points isn't going to be enough to beat us

00:46:12.660 and uh and then they scored a touchdown in the third quarter it was 28 three and i was like 28 0.81

00:46:18.180 might be enough you know and i thought like man don't go go go fight your ass off like you may 0.99

00:46:24.900 lose this game but you ain't going down like a little bitch like go go you know go to the end 0.99

00:46:32.300 like and i would just say to him come on one score we just need one and we drove the ball down and 1.00

00:46:37.520 we scored it was 28-9 and it was a little momentum and our defense found a little spark and they

00:46:44.700 made a stop then they punted the ball back to us we went down the field again kicked the field goal

00:46:50.660 28-12 and i was like two score game come on d we just got to make a play and dante hightower

00:46:59.160 strips Matt Ryan we score again get to 2.28 20 now it's a one score game so it happens and I think

00:47:07.500 the point of that too is like you just talk about the Shador Sanders you know fifth round like

00:47:12.620 what do you do when you're down 28-3 you take advantage of whatever opportunity you get and

00:47:20.180 we got one drive we're going to try to take advantage of it and I felt like my whole career

00:47:24.520 was that way like I always felt like I was behind trying to catch up to other people and so maybe it

00:47:30.620 wasn't anything to me new to me because I was like I'm always trying to fight from behind I was 199

00:47:36.720 I was the seventh quarterback when I started at Michigan I was the backup quarterback in high

00:47:43.280 school my freshman team that didn't win a game like I was a late bloomer so I just bloomed a

00:47:49.480 little late in that super bowl too by the way for the first 40 minutes of the game i didn't play

00:47:54.220 great you know but because we fought and because we overcame the adversity it ended up being what

00:48:01.700 could have been the worst game of my career and the worst one of the worst blowouts in the history

00:48:06.960 of the nfl ended up being one of the best games of my career so history yeah man when you're down

00:48:12.120 like that's a great opportunity to to come back you know and i had a sports psychologist that i

00:48:17.860 referred to earlier his name was greg harden greg passed away this last year and um he had a big

00:48:23.500 impact on me personally in college and kind of reframed my mindset about competing and uh he

00:48:31.040 just said like you're down already like you're it's two minutes left in the game you're already

00:48:37.720 gonna lose go do something about it and then the next day everyone's gonna be talking about the

00:48:43.500 come back and it's like wow so then i started looking at all those times where we're losing

00:48:48.520 the game as an opportunity it was like man i couldn't come back if i wasn't behind so go get

00:48:55.240 it done work hard to get it done and then it's like oh we don't have to be ahead with 10 points

00:49:01.440 with two minutes left to win the game we could still be behind and come back and win and that's

00:49:06.060 like that's the attitude and it's the storyline like a that's the storyline but nothing is cooler

00:49:11.720 than seeing somebody come back exactly how many game-winning shots at mj make or kobe or you know

00:49:17.040 like steph curry when you watch those you're like that's what you want to see man that's sports it's

00:49:21.280 that gets you up out of your chair was that would you say that that game was one of the

00:49:25.300 defined was that the defining moment of your career um from a game standpoint yeah that was

00:49:32.720 how good did that feel yeah that was that was uh that was pretty crazy like even still thinking

00:49:38.840 about it it's it's just 28 3 and basically everything had to go right and we we found a

00:49:44.940 way to make it happen and everything did go right and i just remember after the game i was exhausted

00:49:49.400 i took a pretty big shot on the on our last drive i got hit in the head pretty good and i was on

00:49:54.840 autopilot from the last drive in over in regular uh in uh in the uh in the fourth quarter and in

00:50:03.980 overtime like there were two drives were really foggy and I remember after that game I was just

00:50:09.620 exhausted and probably didn't understand what exactly happened because look you're in the

00:50:15.600 moment you're you're not seeing it from the fans perspective you're seeing it from your perspective

00:50:21.000 and then it takes you a little while to decompress in the game and then when you watch it you're like

00:50:26.080 holy how did I do that how did we make that player how do you make that stop this happened

00:50:30.800 it all kind of comes back to life for you is that feeling after a game where you just put it all out

00:50:35.780 there and you're exhausted and like probably a little beat up but healthy and ready to go for

00:50:40.560 the next one is that is that a good feeling for you the best the best that's what you miss most

00:50:44.840 about sports is you know the man in the arena you know who's who's beaten whose face is marred by

00:50:52.060 by blood and sweat and you get to go fight and like it's nice being in the arena and it's like

00:50:58.180 when you're in that you have appreciation for the other people in that arena with you and what they

00:51:02.120 give up and what they sacrifice for because not a lot of jobs take on the physical body yeah which

00:51:08.460 is what the sports do sports sports that you have to master the physical part too like a lot of

00:51:13.000 investment jobs or it's it's mental and it's emotional yep physical when you put it all

00:51:18.460 together stuff yeah i mean i would walk out because i do broadcasting for fox now and i love it but

00:51:24.360 there's not a physical challenge to it and that's the difference like i walk out of the game and i'm

00:51:28.420 like damn i feel good like that was you're a little you know worn out just because a little

00:51:33.160 emotional and but the reality is like when i'd walk off the field after a after a game and it 0.98

00:51:37.740 was three hours and 20 minutes long and you were in 90 degree heat like that's a physical toll

00:51:43.720 that you have to overcome too you know you don't want to give into your body so you just keep

00:51:48.080 fighting on do you good i was gonna say earlier you guys didn't read each other's cues right

00:51:52.400 there yeah i didn't hear i didn't hear his little micro breath no i didn't i didn't catch it i was

00:51:57.620 the same time uh earlier you talked about the uh the mental part of the game as well

00:52:02.800 and uh a quarterback's ability to intake information which i think is obviously a

00:52:07.280 huge part of that position and it's really cool to see that part of your mind work now as an

00:52:13.080 analyst yeah color commentating for the nfl as well um wow healthy deal tom congratulations

00:52:18.500 thank you 375 million it sounds like one of the the paul brothers deals yeah one of them

00:52:23.840 congrats Jake on the private jet I hope he shares it all with you guys yeah fine ways he well sort

00:52:31.680 of uh he got an investment property in Georgia so many acres 5600 acres and wow I was like man

00:52:37.400 can I build the house he's like sure bro like you're I'm gonna you're I'll sell it to you at

00:52:41.100 the land oh I love him yeah so sure businessman 100 he's like it's an investment property I said

00:52:46.380 fair play fair play yeah um but yeah it's cool to see that part of your your mind work i just

00:52:52.380 wanted to ask you a little bit about what that's been like because um for me when i watch sports

00:52:56.460 any sport man man the commentary is it's it's the narrative it's the the narration of what i'm

00:53:03.320 watching is so important is that a different type of pressure is that something you like doing

00:53:08.480 because i know it can be exhausting as well i mean you're talking for a long time especially

00:53:13.060 as someone who like we talked about earlier like your social battery it sounds like it has a cap

00:53:18.360 yeah it does it's it's it's a different challenge for sure and it's like

00:53:22.200 it's not a it's a challenge it's not it's not easy at all you know and i don't i don't want

00:53:27.600 to make it seem like you know sometimes you say it's not easy like you don't feel i don't feel

00:53:33.220 sorry it's it's a it's a job you got to commit you got to do it and i think this first year was

00:53:38.000 good to get under my belt because you really don't know what you don't know until you do it

00:53:42.300 and then uh and then you have so much more respect for the guys that have done it and are doing a

00:53:46.780 great job of it because you're like holy like you got to thread the needle so many times throughout

00:53:53.720 the game like you don't want to be too hard on people because they are trying hard you know and

00:53:58.440 you don't want to be too hard on what you think you see because you don't know what the coach told

00:54:03.180 the guy maybe the coach said absolutely don't throw it there and now that guy's open and now

00:54:09.140 i'm going why didn't they throw it there but the coach had told the guy listen we're not looking

00:54:12.420 over there but you also want to be entertaining you gotta have fun and you gotta be entertaining

00:54:16.280 you gotta teach people and you gotta talk about the offense and the defense or the coach or the

00:54:20.800 general manager or the owner or the ref or the you gotta have an opinion on the call so there's

00:54:26.380 like an art to it and i'm like i'm working my way through the art part you know it's it's uh that's

00:54:31.440 why it's a great challenge because you i do it's one of those jobs too where i do jump out of my

00:54:35.740 bed you know in the morning during the football season i'm like all right baby let's rock and

00:54:39.020 i jump out of bed for 375 million yeah you got to you know got to get to work there's a lot of

00:54:44.700 things to do you think as you continue to get comfortable with it you'll ever see yourself

00:54:48.040 becoming like the more uh debaucherous commentator like a shack or like a barkley or something like

00:54:54.420 those guys just they have a great time thing they want yeah they do they have a great chemistry

00:54:59.940 i think our job is a little more professional when you're doing games because they're doing

00:55:05.580 they're not doing in the moment games they're just doing like the studio stuff which is great

00:55:10.520 and it's really fun like we have a fox pre-game show with strahan and uh terry and howie and

00:55:16.180 jimmy retired this year but gronk's on there uh jay glazes on there they have so much fun

00:55:21.000 and everyone always says to them you guys really have that much fun and that's a moment for that

00:55:26.040 like i my partner kevin burkhart is the best guy partner in the world and like that's my dog like

00:55:34.160 we got we got each other's back so if he and i have that chemistry then super important then it's

00:55:39.540 so important do you regret doing the roast of tom brady um i regret that my kids had to like

00:55:47.960 you know it's tough on my kids for sure because they don't think they're at an age i kind of went

00:55:52.060 in there look you don't know what to expect and i love laughing at myself it felt like i was in

00:55:57.580 the locker room and the harder people go at me i'll actually love it um it's the psychopath

00:56:03.820 anytime yeah it's just it's just like if people make fun of you then i know that i'm good with

00:56:08.820 them you know and like i said earlier i don't take myself too serious so but i do understand

00:56:13.400 like for my kids that was really hard yeah it was a massive show yeah you said it was a massive hit

00:56:20.120 yeah and you said that right after the show too that you felt yeah and i didn't realize you know

00:56:23.760 like there's some things the parent you fuck up and you don't realize until after like

00:56:27.260 you know and you just you you're we're not perfect parents like and you'll see as you grow up like 0.61

00:56:34.580 there's no there's no perfect manual for it and like you got to value yourself as a parent too

00:56:39.620 all the time so even though I really enjoyed the show and and the the performances were incredible

00:56:45.940 and like when you were in that moment in that theater that night at the forum like it was

00:56:50.420 electric yeah like it was crazy like we got done we were everybody was on cloud nine and i think

00:56:57.520 that moment i'll never forget you know and then i'll never forget when i talk to my kids the next

00:57:03.360 day and i was like i felt like you know a stake through the heart you know understandably you

00:57:09.200 know were they mad they're protective of their mom of their dad you know of of everybody you know

00:57:15.260 they're just why do you what what was the point of that why did you do that so it's just you live

00:57:19.880 you learn as a parent um now i'm a parent too so i'm actually kind of asking for me a little bit

00:57:24.760 so i'm finding out um and i and i like heard this but uh it may it's got to be one of the

00:57:29.320 hardest jobs in the world yeah because it's it feels really hard to do perfectly yeah like

00:57:36.000 fucking up seems kind of inevitable and that's a heavy heavy feeling because it now you're like

00:57:43.620 affecting a person's life right a person you really love but is is that um is that inability 0.98

00:57:51.540 to do parenthood perfectly being inevitable do you think that there's any logic in trauma actually

00:58:00.940 leading to or yielding success if kids can make it out and come on the other side yeah like yeah

00:58:07.420 comeback story well not necessarily a comeback story i'll just say like i i guess this is

00:58:13.080 anecdotal but i i've seen it a lot man like a lot of really successful people have like

00:58:17.060 fucked up childhoods they they go they go through a lot of like dark and um difficult times in their

00:58:23.200 life that's certainly like my story and my brother's story um and and and i don't know any 0.94

00:58:29.380 any kid going through stuff do you think if they can make it out on the other side and learn from

00:58:33.720 it it actually hardens them in a way that's positive yeah i think i think we getting toughened

00:58:40.000 up is a good thing getting roughed up in a lot of things because you have perspective too when you're

00:58:44.160 and you have empathy for other people that are going through tough situations too so like i i

00:58:50.060 went through a lot of different adversities they all challenged me and i and when i did make it

00:58:53.980 through you're right i i gained a lot of self-confidence and self-esteem dealing with

00:58:57.640 adversities and overcoming them and i think the challenge is when people are gifted a lot and

00:59:02.140 given a lot and they don't have to earn it they don't have they don't gain the self-esteem or

00:59:05.600 self-confidence but if you go through that the adversity like all the hardest things that

00:59:10.500 happen in your life when you look back they shaped you the most and they end up being the

00:59:14.460 best thing so it's hard when you appeal to your kids that way yeah because you don't want to see

00:59:19.780 them hurt yeah and that's the hard part you don't mind yourself hurting you don't want to see your

00:59:24.900 parents hurt you don't want to see your kids hurt you don't want to see your because you can't do

00:59:28.500 anything about it now for you you're like all right i can do something about it and and some

00:59:33.560 people don't make it through those hard things either so yeah we can't be insulating as a parent

00:59:38.960 you got to let them experience the world and i think you just you know what i've learned over

00:59:43.200 the last few years with my parents with being a parent is just being there and being because you

00:59:48.820 don't know when the conversations are going to happen you could script them like hey we're going

00:59:52.880 to disneyland and we're going to have this great day and this and that and that's going to be a

00:59:56.640 big important day in your life we're going to take you to this and that and we're gonna take

00:59:59.760 you to show and we're taking the movies then you realize the car ride home from school you had a

01:00:06.320 moment that wow we had a conversation that we needed to have and it was like just a school

01:00:15.300 pickup so like you got to be for for me as a parent i speak about talking to myself is you

01:00:22.740 got to be available and you got to be present and that's where the parenting happens not in

01:00:28.160 the big moments it's a lot of times it's in the small moments it's really never in the big like

01:00:32.440 nothing happened in disneyland or skiing it from i my i remember i had a mental breakdown on the

01:00:37.920 mound when i was pitching i was like 13 years old 12 years old something like that i started

01:00:42.960 crying my eyes out i really ran off the field because it was a really important game and my

01:00:47.060 dad came up to me and gave me a pep talk and sent me back out i always it's like one of the things

01:00:50.540 that stands out in my mind it wasn't it wasn't you know going to this dinner or to that vacation

01:00:55.620 and it was one of those moments where he was just there you know awesome you picking your kids up

01:00:59.440 from school yeah yeah are the other parents like oh holy shit that's tom brady no they're pretty 0.87

01:01:06.940 good the school gets used to me going there and uh like do you go to parent teacher conferences 0.95

01:01:11.520 yeah of course that's correct you're a pta dad uh i don't run the pta no but like i try to be just

01:01:19.120 you know dad i always introduce myself to the kids friends as vivi's dad and benny's dad

01:01:24.180 hey how you doing Benny's dad you know because it kind of just breaks it down you know because a lot

01:01:28.560 of like and I got this with my teammates like there were a lot of walls that got built up you

01:01:32.900 know as I got older and I played 23 pro seasons when you're in your 20th year everyone's and you

01:01:39.100 got a 22 year old he's seen you the whole life so you got to like break some walls down hey I'm Tom

01:01:44.280 like good to meet you where are you from you know what do you like to do like what music do you like

01:01:47.620 let's sit and have lunch together so like that happens over time at school too you know you just

01:01:52.800 you got to break down the walls so people can actually feel comfortable because that's all i

01:01:56.880 want too i want to be comfortable too like so i need people around me to be comfortable do you

01:02:00.760 feel comfortable right now very like in a way like i don't know it's been pretty fun thank you

01:02:05.180 yeah what what uh what things do you like what type of music do you like to listen to

01:02:08.280 i i've basically i've been in a locker room for a long time so i hear it all and and

01:02:14.580 that everyone else controlled the music so i heard it all you know do you have like a favorite

01:02:19.700 artist artist um jay-z was always probably one of my favorites come on to go um i always like you

01:02:27.180 too i like jack johnson i love morgan one i like post malone i like drake i don't like it all

01:02:34.140 has it been all of us has it been uh fun after football to be able to kind of like kick your

01:02:39.440 feet up and probably chill with most of the guys you just named if you wanted yeah that's fun i

01:02:44.280 think the best part for me is i don't feel like that fight or flight is happening every day

01:02:48.480 anymore like the stress i'd say the stress levels are a lot lower i can imagine a lot of golf i'm

01:02:54.400 not stressed about golf i'm not i'm not i'm not really stressed period i'm this i'm like uh but

01:03:00.040 in football like think about like you're an athlete so if you're not training and you and

01:03:05.700 you're like i gotta do i can't train there's an anxiousness even in the off season yep about

01:03:10.260 training so it's like i don't feel that stress of like oh shit i should be doing getting ready for

01:03:18.080 football that's the best part we've had steve weatherford on this podcast and a lot of athletes

01:03:23.380 and they all describe this this feeling that um what now athletes have yeah after they they

01:03:28.800 achieve the the big goal um which which he described as the what now moment right he won

01:03:34.680 his first super bowl he said he went back to the hotel and he kind of looked around and like he's

01:03:37.740 like okay like i wanted to do that my whole life what now win six more is what tom's so for you

01:03:44.260 not not from a game perspective because you just you you really did it in your career that's work

01:03:48.940 by the way uh but after when you when you hung up the helmet did you have that moment what not what

01:03:56.420 now like you know it's been your identity for two decades you did it to the absolute highest extreme

01:04:02.540 what do you do now yeah you you hope that it's not a crash landing and i think that's the hard

01:04:08.840 parties because it's not just it's it's not like it's your identity or whatever it's just you loved

01:04:14.600 it like what else you don't get to do what you love to do anymore like and there's not many people

01:04:20.720 that have athletes face that other people probably face that too but i would say like if you went in

01:04:26.500 investments you could probably do that your whole life you know if you went into media you could

01:04:29.800 probably do it your whole life in sports it comes to an end so like physical side yeah i tried to

01:04:34.560 prepare for it and i did some like great things i think in order to transition a little bit smoother

01:04:39.420 um but there's no there's there's no way to the outcome without going through it and uh it's what

01:04:48.020 you just have to face like okay like i remember when i announced my uh retirement on my social

01:04:55.160 media a couple years to however many years ago kevin was there second one kevin was there with

01:05:01.240 me no way a mile from here and i made a video in the morning and uh i just literally grabbed my

01:05:06.600 phone and and it was like there was an emotion to it because like i was telling myself i'm not doing

01:05:12.600 it again you know so it's just uh it's emotional because it meant a lot and it meant a lot that

01:05:19.340 like i don't get you know painters don't give up painting you know football players but we got to

01:05:22.680 give up football you know and now i actually get to be a part of football i'm an owner of a football

01:05:26.880 to you uh you know i'm still around the guys all the time so i can impact that i'm in broadcasting

01:05:32.220 football i love that so it's not far away yeah no so i still get to do a lot of fun stuff do you

01:05:38.180 ever miss it and just really wish you were back out there what i love is when i'll always love

01:05:45.980 this is the feeling of throwing a perfect pass and i think it's like the only correlation i can

01:05:51.480 make you guys golf at all yeah i do so like you ever hit like a perfect seven iron perfect

01:05:56.860 trajectory lands right on the green makes the divot you gotta fit it just makes your whole day

01:06:02.540 yes it makes your whole day yeah so that's throwing a football for me like that perfect

01:06:07.700 oh i want to do that again oh i want to do that it's like when you put when you bet on just 17

01:06:13.280 on roulette it's like you put it's just 17 it's the only number you've had on it drops in

01:06:18.780 it's almost like a zen how much are you putting on that just 17 are we like changing

01:06:23.260 thousand he'll dump really yeah i've hit i've hit like five times on the number that feels good

01:06:28.240 it's pretty good yeah okay yeah yeah it's a good win solid it feels good is that is that a daily

01:06:33.980 for you what is that what's that skeleton it is what's you like that i do actually you know

01:06:40.320 it's special for you guys i had to bring something out of it you are a big collector yeah you got a

01:06:44.760 lot of memorabilia yeah wasn't there a tom brady auction that just happened yeah i almost bid on

01:06:49.500 i don't know why i didn't yeah there's a lot of a lot of there's a lot of great stuff yeah i'm

01:06:53.520 keeping all my like i guess i kept like my top 50 stuff yeah and then other stuff just piling up

01:06:58.480 in a closet and i'm like you were like i was like you know what am i gonna do i'm gonna sit on it

01:07:01.920 for my whole life and then my kids are gonna get rid of it or like do you have any more of the

01:07:05.580 skeletons piling up in the closet i'm really trying to find a black skeleton dude i have one

01:07:12.520 i but it's not for sale i know dude i want one so bad but i just hate the msrp on it is like

01:07:18.260 90 or something i cannot find one for like less than like 260 or 270 i know

01:07:24.400 please can i buy the world has exploded with social media and then it's great to get great

01:07:30.740 pieces what's your favorite watch um you've got some crazy i got some great ones crazy watches

01:07:37.600 yeah i i got one recently i'm not even gonna tell you what it is you'll just see it and you'll be

01:07:42.120 like damn that's the one he was talking about really like that yeah will you wear it will you

01:07:45.860 wear it to michael's party in july let me see what i'm gonna wear what's coming up that's 0.97

01:07:50.900 mech gala this will be the first time mech gala this week first time i'm not going to

01:07:54.600 i wouldn't wear uh there needs to be security around let me say that the white party there's

01:08:00.520 michael's not having it this year that would be a great place to wear it yeah who has better

01:08:05.160 watches you or jay i think jay's got me beat jay's got some he's got that one that is that

01:08:11.680 tiffany's watch is crazy yeah he's got that he's got a lot of the the rm the sapphires he's got a

01:08:16.820 lot of old vintage uh paddocks and is he the is he the goat rapper um no i don't think i'm like

01:08:25.440 the expert in this he's my favorite so but but like you know there's a lot of probably people

01:08:31.620 who are probably have a lot better insight who'd you have on who'd you have on drake and kendrick

01:08:37.080 peace on earth man let them all get along you ever get a watch stolen

01:08:43.100 no had a had a three hundred thousand dollar protect stolen

01:08:47.280 well yeah yeah oh yeah yeah no i didn't have a watch stolen but i had a card stolen i was at

01:08:55.780 the super bowl this year and i have this card yeah so i'm a oh so i have a um uh involved in a

01:09:02.120 a business of hobby shops and they're called card vault by tom brady just launched in london

01:09:06.600 correct uh that was a fanatic store that michael launched it was great and michael's been hugely

01:09:11.160 helpful to our team i can imagine and we have yeah it's an american dream oh my god i did see

01:09:17.040 this yeah we have four we have four stores over we want to get to a hundred but we were signing a

01:09:21.700 very at the super bowl this last year we had like a little party for uh kind of the executive team

01:09:27.140 and a few people involved the business and i they said all right this is what we're going to do we're

01:09:30.860 going to sign one of your expo cards um that fanatics had made for me i got drafted to play

01:09:37.420 baseball and they're like all right this is really cool we're going to do like a one-on-one it's a

01:09:40.680 perfectly graded card what you're going to write is because i made a joke on one thing i said okay

01:09:45.440 if if if baseball doesn't work out there's always football so then i signed for this card ball if

01:09:52.900 football doesn't work out there's always card so i literally signed it we turned around we started

01:09:58.820 talking i left the store i'm driving back to my hotel because i'm working the super bowl when

01:10:03.500 broadcasting and my my business partner calls and is like did you take the card with you and i was

01:10:08.920 like no like it was on the table someone stole oh my god right from oh my god yeah so he's going

01:10:17.220 back to the tape no no evidence oh my god we got people that go outside and they hear these kids

01:10:25.140 talking about the card and then we actually ended up getting it back oh someone took it right off

01:10:30.880 the table oh dude it's it's tough because such high value items that are just so small and can

01:10:35.480 just be like nabbed so easily i dude fanatics is by the way i love michael rubin and fanatics

01:10:41.800 um they do such sick stuff for wwe i had i had someone come up to me and put a little patch 0.98

01:10:46.320 on my shoe this last match at wrestlemania patch i was like what the fuck you like what do you get 0.95

01:10:50.860 off my gear yeah and they're like no they're gonna put it in a card and so like amazing yeah it's 0.92

01:10:55.500 such like just a innovative idea like a a match worn patch on the shoe oh man they can do that

01:11:02.700 for any sport yeah they do it for baseball they're doing it for football the rookie patches it's such

01:11:06.780 a good idea man yeah um dude innovation yeah they're they're they're on it um and super disruptive

01:11:12.200 i could see why you and ruben are boys yeah were you all did you always have hobbies like

01:11:17.260 like you have now or collect like want wanted to collect or were you just a workhorse at one point

01:11:22.380 i always started with cards like when i was a kid that's what i did you know i had all the

01:11:25.900 baseball cards football cards and like i had a street if there was like 70 80 kids and we all

01:11:30.040 collected and we just trade them to each other and i was like the first thing i ever collected

01:11:33.700 you know was cards and i think that's probably the the inflection point for most people is cards

01:11:38.460 dude i'm obsessed did you collect pokemon cards didn't you have the million dollar card

01:11:42.280 i got a million dollar card i got a 5.2 million dollar card get out of here

01:11:46.580 it's the rarest where do you keep that where yeah i don't even want to say okay i won't

01:11:50.700 it's inside an active volcano good it's safe yeah no that's that's now it's yeah that's uh

01:11:56.800 that's amazing yeah it's a thing it's a it's a total you want to go to some parties right now

01:12:01.300 yeah we don't want to keep you forever no no no i mean with us like do you want to come to

01:12:04.480 yeah you're going to we're going to go to the canes part to the raising canes yeah he is i i

01:12:08.740 No, he is coming.

01:12:09.640 No, you're coming.

01:12:10.180 Your dad, he's got early morning.

01:12:11.120 No, no, no.

01:12:11.480 He said he's going to come.

01:12:12.960 50s performing tonight.

01:12:14.380 That sounds fun. 0.90

01:12:15.020 It's going to be a good one.

01:12:15.760 Yeah, at 2 a.m.

01:12:16.340 Todd Graves.

01:12:16.900 No, it's not.

01:12:17.320 It's at 12.

01:12:17.740 It's at 12.

01:12:18.360 We can go to Palm Tree right down the street, Chainsmokers.

01:12:21.520 Oh, that's good, too.

01:12:21.740 Come on.

01:12:21.980 Let's go do something.

01:12:23.280 Let me figure it out.

01:12:23.920 All right, forget it.

01:12:24.420 It's fine.

01:12:25.020 I get it.

01:12:25.380 I get it, Tom.

01:12:26.280 I get it.

01:12:26.780 You got other stuff to do, you know?

01:12:28.880 Yeah, dude, thanks for joining us on Saturday evening, though.

01:12:31.640 so gracious of you glad it worked out this is cool yeah for real any other stuff any questions

01:12:36.660 for for us before you go like no i think you guys just random questions you guys are making i think

01:12:42.700 the only thing i'd say is you guys are making a positive impact in a lot of things you do like

01:12:45.960 keep it up well depends who you ask it should be inspiring and inspiring like i think we need more

01:12:49.940 people out there that are trying to help people be their best self you know thanks man as opposed

01:12:54.380 to being a i think i think you're right i think there's a lot of negative chatter online and i

01:12:59.440 think it's what humans are unfortunately like instinctually drawn to i don't think it's like

01:13:04.480 super abnormal for anyone in any species to see something bad and be like gravitate towards it

01:13:10.320 in a little bit but a lot of people lock on to that so mike and i with the show at least

01:13:14.460 are trying to bring some sort of semblance of value to somebody like there will be people that

01:13:20.220 watch this podcast and it affects the way they live the rest of their life because something

01:13:23.760 you said and that's it well bro tb12 come on um on behalf of me and the impulsive audience

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