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00:02:12.720 Oh, so there was a back and forth?

00:02:14.060 There was a back and forth for sure.

00:02:15.480 And why did you land on The Rock kind of pushing Cody to the side?

00:02:19.460 Like, what made you make that decision?

00:02:21.160 I'm sorry.

00:02:29.560 ladies and gentlemen we have rick flair on the podcast today i've done a couple rick flair woos

00:02:37.940 in my promos what a legend i can't do him like him though he like he his whole essence is in

00:02:44.080 those woos it's his brand rick flair jip go whoa and the brand i woke up 45 minutes ago i'm feeling

00:02:52.260 kind of goofy good be silly people would like it they'd like to see a you know a human side of

00:02:57.200 logan paul instead of the robotic brand side dude yeah kids become a billboard am i right triple h 0.76

00:03:04.100 guys we have the head of wwe creative in the house today he's the man he's responsible for

00:03:13.100 wwe success he's incredible he's also my boss and he's here 10 minutes early ladies and gentlemen

00:03:18.220 it's triple h yes sir paul lebeck hunter hurst helmsley back again good to see you boss how are

00:03:26.620 good to see you boss proxy boss you're his boss you're my boss 100 if i get fired we're fired

00:03:34.140 no longer here where's my headphones my head doesn't turn that far dude we were late

00:03:43.260 i actually think he was early oh yeah okay fair enough why did you come so early it wasn't so

00:03:48.780 early it was just early i don't like to be late right you don't keep you don't keep logan paul

00:03:53.660 waiting i know man the sarcasm was so heavy so heavy dude we get a text saying he's here he's

00:04:03.900 on set i was told 12 and i would have been here at 11 59 yeah i wouldn't you know but like i don't

00:04:09.760 want to be late for you i told you i'd be here i'm here you're a professional man uh and the

00:04:14.940 shows in the work wow wwe right now is crazy it is uh you know fortunate um yeah you know you said

00:04:23.600 some nice stuff on the intro but like it's everybody it's it's not one thing it's everybody

00:04:28.940 it's you it's um it's everybody that's here it's rock's involvement in the moment and all that but

00:04:34.520 the thing that's cool for me is i feel right now while people keep talking about this this moment

00:04:41.140 in time and while it's hot and you're in the middle of this hot streak hot era whatever they're

00:04:45.460 going to call it and people are putting names on it but i feel like this is not we're not in the

00:04:49.980 middle of it we're the beginning of it like this is the this wrestlemania wrestlemania 40

00:04:54.680 this weekend in philly to me is the launching pad it's not the we're in the middle of it and

00:05:00.180 we're enjoying it we're we're at the launch pad this is going to take it to another level like

00:05:04.760 we're just getting started as an executive you got you got to think like that correct you have

00:05:09.320 to but i've i mean i would i was in the thick of it in the attitude era i know what it felt like

00:05:16.060 and I know what it felt like when it was going down

00:05:18.200 and sort of the ups and downs of it.

00:05:20.340 And that's just how I feel about it. 0.76

00:05:22.400 It's not me trying to bullshit myself 0.87

00:05:25.060 and thinking like there's more, something bigger to come. 0.92

00:05:28.100 I feel like that's the reality of it.

00:05:29.620 It's the beginning of it.

00:05:30.820 It's the launch pad of it.

00:05:32.320 You know, just like for you and not blowing smoke up you,

00:05:34.760 what you're doing and what you've done here as a performer

00:05:38.020 and as an athlete is incredible,

00:05:39.740 but you're just getting started, right?

00:05:42.000 Like people in the talking about your run here,

00:05:44.220 Yeah, but you're like, you're the beginning of it.

00:05:47.160 He's like crawling.

00:05:49.020 You don't even have a finish.

00:05:50.280 Do you have a finishing move?

00:05:52.040 Kind of.

00:05:52.740 I mean, not really, no.

00:05:53.980 Kind of.

00:05:54.660 The brass knucks, I think, is his finishing move.

00:05:56.460 Cheating is your finishing move?

00:05:57.860 Pretty much, yeah.

00:05:58.440 You ain't cheating, you ain't trying, bro.

00:05:59.840 Unreal, bro.

00:06:01.260 Unreal.

00:06:02.200 But you're right.

00:06:03.160 That jealousy's thick over there.

00:06:05.300 Yeah, I was going to ask you, you can spot a trend, right?

00:06:08.780 Do you think there's any coincidence between the attachment of my good friend,

00:06:14.600 Logan Paul, to the organization and the current pop that we're seeing with?

00:06:18.260 I think it's all of it, right?

00:06:19.880 Like if the business is not going well,

00:06:24.480 then people don't want to be involved in it from outside.

00:06:27.900 So I think there has to be some semblance of something there,

00:06:31.700 but then all those pieces add to it.

00:06:34.260 Is Rock responsible for the big drive right now?

00:06:37.740 certainly a part of it for sure right but we were we were on an upward trend in a big way

00:06:43.760 before um I feel like there's just a turnaround there and but all the pieces connect to it and

00:06:50.500 people try to I think I think put responsibility on things in certain eras was it was it Hogan

00:06:58.180 in that era was it Austin in the other era right like it it's not one it's all the stuff that's

00:07:04.200 going on because you can't just have one one thing in a three hour show or a four hour show

00:07:09.460 or whatever that is that's hot and the rest of it is just there it's not enough it's it's got to be

00:07:14.040 across the board not every single thing but it's got to be across the board pretty solid

00:07:18.700 and i think that's where we are now and so everything lends itself to that success but

00:07:24.920 certainly you being a part of it is is a big key in it right as well i can tell you uh as an employee

00:07:30.580 as someone who um technically works for you guys it's it's like the greatest job in the world and

00:07:36.020 i guarantee everyone on this poster would stay say the same especially now because um i feel like

00:07:42.020 the performers and athletes have such freedom to kind of just be themselves and and and pitch

00:07:47.780 ideas and not have fear of being shut down i take pride in in my role of trying to get viral

00:07:54.820 internet moments and content to capture people who might not be interested in the wwe i think

00:07:59.540 think that's where I provide the most value to you guys um you know I'm the outsider I'm the

00:08:06.200 social media guy and that's how my brain works even something as simple as drawing on the

00:08:10.420 elimination chamber I asked you before the elimination chamber I'm like I'm like hey I

00:08:14.180 have this idea like if I brought like a marker in and if I'm waiting in that pod can I just like

00:08:18.720 draw stuff can I doodle can I doodle and he's like yeah just don't do it during like any big

00:08:24.320 moments I don't see how that could be a problem dude this video is like one of my most viewed

00:08:28.560 videos of all time it's got like a collective like 150 million views it's insane um and i think

00:08:34.060 people who aren't interested in wwe will see that and be like this is interesting he's in a pod

00:08:39.220 at the what's this elimination check i might tune into that next time yeah and then they watch a

00:08:44.300 clip of it or they watch you an action clip and then that's spectacular and then i want to sample

00:08:49.560 this whole thing and they start to catch on to the stories and then that's what brings them back

00:08:53.840 right it's the it's the storytelling which brings you back bingo it's the hook it's the claws it

00:08:59.260 it grasps people um and right now you guys are absolutely nailing it but you're saying this is

00:09:06.040 the launch pad and it's going to be the biggest wrestlemania ever how do you keep it going because

00:09:11.080 that's always the hardest part look it's the hardest part it's the part when you get to it's

00:09:17.940 it's like uh it's like training where you're trying to break your records and then you break

00:09:22.440 your record and you smoke it like you you crush it right where you're like oh my god i can't believe

00:09:27.000 i did that well like i smoked it and then the following week you got to try to beat that record 0.99

00:09:30.640 again and you're like fuck you the sandbagged last week a little bit right like the the excitement 0.98

00:09:35.320 level that that's the challenge is always one-upping yourself always getting to that next 0.99

00:09:40.900 level always trying to keep your eye on all these things that are happening and try to keep them

00:09:45.060 excelling it's it's difficult but that's the man i don't know that i live for that i live for that

00:09:50.420 challenge I love that like that if you're not if you're not thriving in that then you're in the

00:09:55.780 wrong business you know and and to me exactly what you said about that collaborative effort

00:10:01.780 I love that like I don't you come to me with an idea I want to start out thinking yeah well that

00:10:10.700 that could be cool how does that work right and then unless I can't get to a place to make it

00:10:16.220 work. I want to, I want to go with it. And then look, if it fails and it doesn't work and it's

00:10:22.000 terrible, like, well, let's not do that one again. Right. Let's it. I think in a creative

00:10:26.460 position like yours or any creative industry, that yes, but no mentality works really well.

00:10:32.120 We, I love applying that to my life. Um, just because I'm, I'm a creative and I want to make

00:10:37.740 everything work, but then if it doesn't, you know, it just doesn't. Yeah. Start with the yes,

00:10:42.620 right like start with and i think for a long time and this is not a shot at anything but for a long

00:10:49.140 time people were hesitant with ideas and to try them of like i don't want to ruin anything i don't

00:10:57.740 want this to be bad and like you know we all joke about killing the business right i don't want to

00:11:01.760 kill the business but you know i've been told that a million times in my career yeah god i mean

00:11:07.100 killing the business right it's still here yeah i didn't kill it like and we've done a lot of

00:11:12.500 stuff i there's stuff i've done that i think like man i wish i didn't do that it was terrible well

00:11:17.220 look if it ain't broke if it ain't broke don't fix it right and and so just lean towards the yes on

00:11:22.280 things and unless there's stuff that's just logistically not possible or um something that

00:11:28.860 you're just adamantly like yeah no i've seen that before it's not going to work right like that's

00:11:32.780 different but let's start at that yes and let's run with it and and go and see what we can come

00:11:37.820 up with and sometimes the things that don't go the way you thought they would that that chaos i

00:11:44.620 use this term a lot with the writing team like chaos brings greatness because stuff will happen

00:11:50.440 somebody gets injured where you're like oh man we had this great thing laid out and this is so

00:11:55.220 incredible and then somebody gets hurt you're like oh it changes everything this is doom and then

00:12:00.040 a week later you're like well wait a minute though if we did this oh you know what that's

00:12:03.380 even better than what we had holy shit this is awesome yeah more often than not i find stuff

00:12:10.380 comes out of that that that greatness comes out of this misery that you thought was going to be

00:12:15.500 terrible and then it ends up being something really good do you know what i'm gonna ask next

00:12:19.200 based on that chaos brings greatness the rock yeah entering coming back to the wwe

00:12:28.140 Yeah, look, again, that's an example of that.

00:12:31.000 Yeah.

00:12:31.540 Right?

00:12:31.700 Like, we have these, and talk about what you want going into WrestleMania.

00:12:38.620 We had plans very early, right?

00:12:40.820 So if you would have asked me in October,

00:12:42.380 I could have told you probably 90% of what I thought WrestleMania was going to be

00:12:46.020 in what my mind was some pretty good accuracy.

00:12:49.980 But then you end up where you lose guys.

00:12:53.920 CM Punk goes away, all this other stuff, right?

00:12:55.760 it changes your dynamic and then all of a sudden there was talk about maybe rock might try to do

00:13:01.800 something this year we're not really sure you know i've heard that a lot like even me personally he

00:13:07.580 and i have shot an angle before and then his schedule changed and he just couldn't you know

00:13:12.540 we were locked in wrestlemania here's what we're doing here's where we're going and then his

00:13:17.260 schedule changed and just couldn't make it happen right so i i get it um but as that becomes a

00:13:23.320 reality you have to shift thinking and then there's a lot of different thoughts and what

00:13:29.400 the camps are and then hey okay we're gonna do this we think that'll be good or like some people

00:13:35.480 thought you know rock coming in and challenging roman and cody moving over would be a great thing

00:13:41.220 and other people thought this is not gonna work to be really tough oh so there was a back and

00:13:44.720 forth there was a back and forth for sure and why did you land on the rock kind of pushing cody to

00:13:49.640 the side like what what made you make that decision you know at a certain point in time you

00:13:55.480 just have to make pick pick it it was it was duane admit it no you you just have to look you can make

00:14:02.640 the argument that cody roman in the story where we were was massive then you can also make an

00:14:09.620 argument to the biggest star in the world comes into your product to face the biggest guy that

00:14:15.160 you have in the product in roman reigns like jesus that's huge this is like a win-win right

00:14:20.280 so so we do it and and some people are like this is going to be the reaction and some people are

00:14:26.880 like this is going to be the reaction to be exact opposite and then the beauty of our business is

00:14:32.400 they tell us there's 10 20 30 000 people in an arena every night going this is what i like this

00:14:39.880 is what i don't like and you have to filter all the other crap out right to because there's a lot

00:14:44.800 of noise in there and all that and get to the heart of it and once you get to the heart of it

00:14:48.800 they're sort of telling you where to go not sorta on this one no no pretty pretty adamantly did you

00:14:55.700 did you ever expect the response to to uh rock first reigns to be that one-sided and that and

00:15:02.540 that loud on social media i'll be so honest for me i did but like i wasn't this wasn't one of those

00:15:09.200 ones where i was like so adamantly like i could see both sides but i felt like and i you know i

00:15:15.700 kept saying like i and i just don't want you to get booed in this you know um and then and then

00:15:21.400 when they went where they went in in all fairness like people forget how you don't get to where rock

00:15:28.600 is the level of success that he has across the board on everything without being super sensitive

00:15:35.860 and dialed in to what is working and what is not working.

00:15:40.380 Yeah, and you're not going to hit 1,000% on everything, right?

00:15:43.980 But, like, you have to be aware.

00:15:45.720 And in all fairness, man, when that happened,

00:15:48.420 we all sat on it for a few days and were rolling it around.

00:15:53.420 And he was the guy that called me and he said,

00:15:56.140 let me throw this at you.

00:15:57.620 Let me turn heel.

00:15:58.640 Yeah, and if you would have asked me two months earlier,

00:16:02.980 hey, Rock comes in here, this goes, however it goes, whatever,

00:16:05.860 what do you think about rock turning heel i would have said he'll never go for that right because

00:16:09.740 of his career and everything else like him turning heel but you know he was the one that was like

00:16:16.580 what if we flip this what if we do the tag what if we what if i turn heel as soon as he said it i was

00:16:22.760 like a thousand percent like this is the answer yeah and and to be honest like for me i could feel

00:16:29.520 like this puts a whole fresh coat of paint on everything you do you're not the rock coming back

00:16:35.220 in giving me uh your greatest hits and sort of you know but but but it's half Dwayne half rock

00:16:43.340 and like blurring that line of him this is him coming in and full-on playing a character and

00:16:49.420 they'll get that and they'll know that but you can go all the way you know down that road of being

00:16:57.720 the bad guy and they will you know he keeps saying take them on that ride right we used to

00:17:03.300 that used to be a big term here,

00:17:05.020 attitude, we'll take him on this ride, right?

00:17:07.760 Yeah, that's what he's doing.

00:17:09.020 He's taking him on a ride,

00:17:10.160 but they know it and they love it

00:17:12.000 because they know they're on that ride.

00:17:13.860 You know, they know who he is.

00:17:14.840 They know what he does,

00:17:15.900 but they also know they played a character

00:17:18.060 and he wisely was like,

00:17:19.440 look, this unleashed something in me

00:17:21.420 that's been in there,

00:17:22.280 but I haven't let out.

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00:19:48.780 Lisa, we should tell them about our new show.

00:19:51.620 Oh my God, Lexi, we have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me.

00:19:56.340 I'm Lexi Iwanu. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart.

00:20:01.880 And I'm Lisi DiGiulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references,

00:20:06.480 occasionally different opinions. And at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all.

00:20:10.880 I'm not going to get anywhere fighting. That is wild. I learned that about you today.

00:20:16.260 now in my 30s being the founder of new shoes good taste is my business and i've always got

00:20:23.700 something to say if men were just honest about this there would be so much more peace in the

00:20:28.380 world we're gonna talk about dating relationships beauty getting older and a little wiser we're

00:20:34.120 best friends but we don't always agree because you told us how accommodating you are obviously

00:20:39.220 i would do what i think i could do to to fight the fight but there's only so much fight i can fight

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00:21:15.400 What I try to do is faux journal.

00:21:18.560 I don't know.

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00:21:24.740 Okay.

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00:21:26.960 Have you guys done Terry Gross's Peloton class?

00:21:29.820 No!

00:21:30.580 I've been dying to.

00:21:32.660 I'm so sorry.

00:21:33.480 I'm seeing a reading of Sadako and the Thousand Paper Cranes by Audra McDonald at the Wonderland

00:21:39.300 bookstore on 14th.

00:21:40.380 That's crazy.

00:21:40.800 See, I went to the Wendell Land bookstore yesterday and I heard Nora Jones do a reading of Zero Dark Thirty.

00:21:45.440 No way.

00:21:46.540 We'll have to come to the last bookstore, though.

00:21:48.420 Kim Cattrall is reading the guitar tabs of yesterday.

00:21:53.020 A panel of Eurovision participants.

00:21:55.440 And we do a little Halloween sometimes.

00:21:57.720 Does the Pope dress up?

00:21:59.100 He winks on Halloween.

00:22:01.300 He gets right up next to the microphone.

00:22:03.080 I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.

00:22:05.940 You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween.

00:22:11.540 Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:22:18.240 Somebody office-wise was with us the other day, was with me, and sat for a little bit as we were all collaborating together.

00:22:27.820 And afterwards they were like, oh my God, is that, like, how does that work?

00:22:33.920 Like, is that just everybody overthinking?

00:22:36.020 And I was like, no, no, that is why those guys,

00:22:40.180 Roman Reigns, Cody, Seth, Rock, that's why they're all so good.

00:22:44.500 They think of every detail.

00:22:46.160 They mull it around.

00:22:47.480 They shake it around.

00:22:48.980 They might be 100% one camp and then something's said

00:22:52.840 and they're like, oh, wait a minute.

00:22:55.300 I feel differently about this now.

00:22:56.820 And completely switch sides.

00:22:58.180 They're wide open to that freedom of creativity.

00:23:01.840 and when you are that man then and you get in a room with a bunch of creative people

00:23:06.060 i i say this all the time to me like you mentioned earlier about people being themselves and being

00:23:10.740 collaborative like i'd rather have all the ideas filter out the ones that we don't think work have

00:23:15.580 all the ideas and we'll pick the greatest you know that that to me is better than one person

00:23:19.980 coming in a room and saying here's what we're gonna do he's always he's always been like that

00:23:23.200 too yeah he crowdsources ideas and i've we've had a bunch of back and forth back a decade from now

00:23:29.040 where i've always said to him like pick pick your generals have those conversations with those

00:23:33.760 trusted individuals but he always wants to take to crowdsource uh creative and obviously it's

00:23:39.140 worked out for him so i think i think there's there's merit in both approaches i do want to

00:23:43.800 ask you just from a behind the scenes standpoint because i know the audience is interested in it

00:23:46.980 when that explosion of we want cody and viral on on every social media platform happens 0.98

00:23:55.420 is there like a is there like a oh shit moment where like you hit the war room like do you guys 1.00

00:24:00.800 like like if you're a creator and you go viral for saying something stupid on a stream like that 1.00

00:24:05.560 that that pit in your stomach your heart drops and you're like fuck did we fuck this up like 0.99

00:24:10.620 does that happen in the office um i it doesn't happen for me right i like i'm always of the 0.99

00:24:17.060 opinion like god damn that was loud right like so good yeah right like if if they were crickets

00:24:23.680 when it happened and, like, people were indifferent. 0.98

00:24:27.080 That's death, right, creatively.

00:24:29.560 Indifference is death.

00:24:31.620 Different for what you guys do a little bit

00:24:33.320 because of the whole cancel, you know, you do the wrong thing

00:24:36.580 and, like, everybody loses their mind

00:24:38.620 and they all want to jump on the cancel thing or whatever.

00:24:42.100 To me, this is sort of like, you know,

00:24:45.120 at the end of the day, this is entertainment.

00:24:47.460 We're not curing diseases.

00:24:50.040 We're not, you know, trying to figure out how to fly to Mars.

00:24:52.740 We're not doing any, we're not saving humanity.

00:24:54.880 We're like creating entertainment.

00:24:57.480 That's supposed to be fun.

00:24:58.880 The show's supposed to be fun.

00:24:59.900 You're supposed to have a good time watching it.

00:25:01.600 At some points, it's serious.

00:25:03.000 At some points, it's, you know, makes you emotional.

00:25:05.520 At some points, it just makes you laugh.

00:25:07.020 At some points, it's just fun, right?

00:25:08.280 Like that's what it's supposed to be.

00:25:10.200 So none of it is life and death.

00:25:12.540 As long as it's loud, there's a massive reaction, positive or negative.

00:25:16.400 Great.

00:25:16.740 Let's take that and run with that now.

00:25:18.400 How do we, how do we manipulate that reaction?

00:25:21.460 Another piece of the puzzle.

00:25:22.480 into another piece of the puzzle you can't be married to hey we're making a left here right

00:25:28.640 like i say this a lot about creative and said in another interview so sorry if you're hearing it

00:25:33.720 again but like the creative is like a gps right like you put in where you want to go you you have

00:25:39.380 your north star that you follow that's where you're trying to get to but along the way things

00:25:44.400 are going to happen and it's going to keep you're going to just have you have to keep rerouting and

00:25:48.100 taking different turns and going all over the place and just sort of keep your destination in

00:25:53.500 mind. Along the way though, you might decide, I don't want to go there anymore. I want, you know

00:25:57.260 what, this is a better place to land on our final destination. And then you shift the journey and

00:26:02.740 you continue to move on. But it's, you always have to have that North star in front of you. If you do

00:26:06.640 that and you're open to everything else, you can turn wherever you want. You'll still get to the

00:26:09.800 same magic place and it's the best it can be that way. But you understand how insane it is that

00:26:16.980 you have an organization as big as the WWE with as many people

00:26:21.480 and the amount of infrastructure that you have

00:26:24.000 that has the ability to pivot like that week after week.

00:26:27.760 It's different than anything else in the world.

00:26:30.180 I don't know if there's anything like it.

00:26:32.440 Even just, you know, the ability to pivot.

00:26:35.340 You're doing live TV.

00:26:36.400 You have to be able to pivot, right?

00:26:38.160 You have to.

00:26:38.940 Like, anything can happen.

00:26:40.540 It's live.

00:26:42.060 Think about everything we're doing.

00:26:43.600 Just this week, right?

00:26:44.620 We're here WrestleMania week.

00:26:45.820 So, you know, from the world and all the activities that are going to happen there, McAfee's doing his show from there, like there's video game tournaments, there's just all this fan activation, there'll be tens of thousands of people there every day to, you know, all the setup for the shows that are going on.

00:27:06.100 And then, you know, we'll do the kickoff show Friday.

00:27:09.020 We'll do SmackDown.

00:27:10.580 We'll do Hall of Fame.

00:27:11.960 On Saturday, they'll do NXT.

00:27:15.220 On Saturday evening, we'll go into a two-hour countdown show

00:27:19.220 and then into however long WrestleMania takes.

00:27:22.660 On Sunday, we'll do the Slammys,

00:27:24.540 and then we'll go into a countdown show for two hours

00:27:27.140 that'll go into another night of WrestleMania,

00:27:29.140 only to come in the next day

00:27:31.440 and go straight into a three-hour Monday Night Raw

00:27:34.500 and everything that comes with it.

00:27:36.860 What other company in the world can create that much live content

00:27:41.700 and all of it happening live and you have to pivot on every single piece of it?

00:27:47.760 You've got to be ready for everything at all times.

00:27:50.380 But at the end of the day, it's going to go live,

00:27:52.440 so it is going to be what it is going to be.

00:27:54.340 It's going to be great.

00:27:55.360 You've just got to trust it.

00:27:56.420 Sounds exhausting, Paul.

00:27:58.540 Like, how are you not exhausted, man?

00:28:00.300 I shoot you a text, I feel bad.

00:28:02.460 I'm like, he's wasting energy on my text.

00:28:05.400 He needs that energy.

00:28:06.860 No, I do picture you texting me laying around on your couch

00:28:09.660 doing nothing with your feet up.

00:28:10.920 That is what's at.

00:28:12.160 In Puerto Rico, by the way.

00:28:13.640 Yeah, no, yeah, yeah.

00:28:14.640 Palm trees, sunny.

00:28:16.100 Yeah, that's how I picture you when I'm in the middle of eight things

00:28:19.880 and you text me.

00:28:20.780 But it's all great.

00:28:23.300 You know, it's like you, if you have a passion for something,

00:28:26.280 and I don't want to sound cliched about it,

00:28:27.640 but if you have a passion for something and what you do, right,

00:28:30.300 you don't really work.

00:28:31.060 you enjoy what you do right so you know uh you wake up in the morning thinking about like oh man 0.74

00:28:37.500 i got all this shit i gotta do this great this is gonna be awesome i'm gonna do that like here's 0.50

00:28:41.600 all the stuff i gotta accomplish so you sort of charge into the day as opposed to waking up going 0.98

00:28:45.580 like another day i gotta flip burgers again like i hate flipping burgers whatever that is you know

00:28:51.400 what i mean and you have to go about your day it's it's awesome i'm i feel privileged to be

00:28:56.040 able to do it especially where i am in in my life and my career and all that stuff to be doing what

00:29:00.860 i'm doing i could have never never imagined it neither could the fans kevin my videographer and

00:29:07.580 roommate turns on wwe matches while we work out in the gym and a lot of them are you and it's crazy

00:29:14.700 watching triple h wrestle with this long blonde luscious hair yoked out of your mind and i'm

00:29:21.380 watching like yo that guy's my boss it makes like a lot of the decisions for this company now and

00:29:27.240 And, like, seeing that extrapolation makes no sense to me.

00:29:31.200 And I think for a lot of fans, it's fascinating that you ended up here.

00:29:36.000 And, like, I don't think anyone would have thought that guy would have been in charge.

00:29:40.640 It's – the journey is crazy to me, right?

00:29:43.380 Like, you just start down the road.

00:29:46.580 I just want to be really good at this.

00:29:48.860 And that's how I approached my career.

00:29:50.820 And the rest of it sort of took care of itself.

00:29:52.480 But then when I got to WWE, I really enjoyed the behind the scenes and the creative.

00:29:56.160 and at the time I was given an opportunity to be sort of a part of that and I latched on to it I

00:30:02.940 didn't get paid more money I didn't you know I would come out to production meetings on tv days

00:30:07.700 at 10 a.m when everybody else had to show up at one I wasn't being paid for that I wasn't being

00:30:11.800 I just got asked hey you you you got good creative ideas would you mind sitting in on this and

00:30:16.980 helping out and I was like okay and it wasn't my stuff 90 of what we talked about had nothing to

00:30:23.040 do with me matter of fact I didn't like talking about myself that much because I always felt like

00:30:26.400 everybody thinks like I'm just trying to go into business for myself I would just weigh in on all

00:30:31.100 this other stuff and you know clearly the ideas were were liked or whatever and and then you just

00:30:37.260 head down that road and you end there and you know you're just work hard at it but it's it's

00:30:42.200 I enjoy doing it I love doing it I I enjoyed even at that time I enjoyed the sort of the

00:30:47.560 thought process and creative process that goes into it as much as i did doing it which i suppose

00:30:53.620 is if you were an actor in hollywood or something it's if you got into the directing producing

00:30:59.940 aspect of it yeah producing and you thought like man i love this just as much as making the being

00:31:04.560 on camera um that that's how i see it and i just i just enjoyed that part a lot so it was a nice

00:31:10.360 transition for me when i got sort of towards the end of my career and just was kind of i just sort

00:31:16.380 transitioned into doing more of that and less of the wrestling and you know went from there well

00:31:20.900 there's such a obviously a facade of these like giant burly test testosterone driven you know

00:31:27.500 men throwing each other off the top ropes but like it's it's it's an obvious testament to the

00:31:33.220 intelligence and true understanding of the wwe organization that yourself or roman or rock has

00:31:40.840 that they can then pivot and contribute holistically to the organization after their

00:31:45.240 days throwing each other around is done not not just that just it can kind of do anything dude

00:31:50.600 for sure like wrestlers are i've learned this wrestlers are super at this level yeah like

00:31:55.340 they're they're intelligent dudes that look like meatheads that's what i was unless you're kevin

00:32:00.500 owens especially at the top the guys that really make it are the smartest right like i can go

00:32:07.600 through this list right you rock genius roman genius like legit yeah uh cody i mean genius

00:32:14.780 what about Dave Bautista

00:32:16.960 look at what Dave's doing

00:32:20.320 and super intelligent

00:32:22.440 and also just like

00:32:24.420 just the guts

00:32:26.120 to say like I'm going to walk away from this

00:32:28.160 I'm making millions of dollars

00:32:29.280 and I'm going to walk away from this

00:32:30.640 and I'm going to try to get in Hollywood

00:32:32.300 because that's something I really would like to do

00:32:34.900 and is a future for me

00:32:35.880 but to have the guts to do that to a point

00:32:37.960 where you kind of lose everything

00:32:39.820 like you spend all your money

00:32:41.420 trying to do this next thing

00:32:43.040 you're living on someone's couch right you're getting told no every single door you knock on

00:32:48.820 they tell you no and then bang bang bang starts to work it starts to work and he starts to starts 0.99

00:32:54.520 to kick in right right again not to blow smoke at you you dude you don't do all the shit you're 0.99

00:32:59.860 doing without being a genius like you're really really smart that's what makes you good at what 0.99

00:33:04.620 we do you see all the stuff we're doing you're also a great athlete but i can make you a list of

00:33:09.460 not great athletes that were great at this business

00:33:12.100 and made a fortune in this business.

00:33:14.940 It's not just about the athletics.

00:33:17.160 It's about all the other pieces.

00:33:19.220 And that EQ, that emotional, right,

00:33:23.300 that you'll be able to read emotions and people

00:33:25.220 and connect with them, that's what we do.

00:33:28.200 So if you have that, if your EQ is high,

00:33:32.280 you're going to do really well at this.

00:33:33.860 The people that aren't, the people that don't have that

00:33:37.020 or aren't as smart.

00:33:38.100 And, yeah, I learned that a long time ago.

00:33:40.520 Like, hey, this guy's a really good athlete.

00:33:42.620 He's just not the swiftest, right?

00:33:44.560 Or just doesn't have a good EQ, like can't feel things.

00:33:47.900 Would you like to name one of those people in specific?

00:33:50.860 No, not particularly at this moment.

00:33:53.200 I got a list in my head.

00:33:54.840 I don't want to say them out loud, yeah.

00:33:57.260 I want to talk a little bit more about this rock thing.

00:33:59.980 Yeah, me too.

00:34:00.480 Because I'm obviously super intrigued by this, like, heel route.

00:34:04.440 um do you i saw this instagram post from him that i'm sure everyone in the world saw uh you know 0.79

00:34:12.300 which one i'm talking about maybe i hate constraints and bullshit rules and just because

00:34:15.320 some wwe producer says clear uh that doesn't mean i just stop what i'm doing and tell everyone great 0.99

00:34:20.520 job fuck that i say the way i want to say i do it the way i want to do it my choice our choice 0.96

00:34:25.680 do you do you see a world where the rock as a heel is a potential ego clash with the boss or 1.00

00:34:33.580 or you know it's a funny thing is you have to look at all this the one thing he is a pro

00:34:41.840 right so all that stuff is it's amazing and it's amazing content and all that stuff but at the end

00:34:49.600 of the day he's a pro we sit in a room we talk this all out we go through it it's great if i

00:34:54.160 you know if we came to him and said this is a problem for us and we got to change this

00:34:58.780 maybe he would argue back maybe he would have a different point of view but at the end of the day

00:35:05.100 if nick or myself still went to him and said hey here's where we got to get to he'd be like okay

00:35:09.080 you know right like but he's when he says he's taking you on a ride and this is the genius

00:35:14.680 is blurring the lines between fiction and reality to a place that even people that are close to it

00:35:24.180 are going like i think he's taking a piss on us right here like well yeah you know what i mean

00:35:28.260 I'm like, what are you doing?

00:35:28.840 Like, calm down.

00:35:29.620 He's not, like, you're on the ride now.

00:35:33.940 You've pulled the handle in and you're on the roller coaster.

00:35:36.380 Like, calm down.

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00:37:24.660 we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions. And at this point in my 50s,

00:37:29.160 I've lived it all. I'm not going to get anywhere fighting. That is wild. I learned that about you

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00:37:53.260 wiser. We're best friends, but we don't always agree. Because you told us how accommodating you

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00:38:09.900 don't lie to me liar listen on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your

00:38:15.680 podcasts i don't really care hi this is kylie breakman angela geritana jeremy colhane patrick

00:38:22.320 mcdonald and we're the hosts of the artists on artists on artists on artists podcast the

00:38:26.940 improvised character comedy podcast where each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft

00:38:32.400 join us for a panel of wellness influencers what i try to do is faux journal i don't know have you

00:38:39.160 guys heard of faux journaling yeah it's reading it's called reading so you're so we don't like

00:38:43.680 to use that word anymore okay a panel of new yorker cartoonists have you guys done terry

00:38:48.620 gross's peloton class no i've been dying too i'm so sorry i'm i'm seeing a a reading of sadako and

00:38:56.140 the thousand paper cranes by audrey mcdonald at the wonderland bookstore on 14th that's crazy i

00:39:01.040 went to the wonderland bookstore yesterday and i heard norah jones do a reading of zero dark 30

00:39:05.320 No way.

00:39:06.600 We'll have to come to the last bookstore, though.

00:39:08.500 Kim Cattrall is reading the guitar tabs of yesterday.

00:39:13.420 A panel of Eurovision participants.

00:39:15.520 And we do a little Halloween sometimes.

00:39:17.780 Does the Pope dress up?

00:39:19.120 He winks on Halloween.

00:39:21.360 He gets right up next to the microphone.

00:39:23.100 I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.

00:39:26.200 You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween.

00:39:31.340 Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists

00:39:33.800 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:39:38.360 We're driving, he's driving, but we're all driving together.

00:39:42.520 We're all following the same GPS.

00:39:44.860 So you're not on the ride.

00:39:46.760 No, I am.

00:39:48.580 So here's the thing.

00:39:49.780 Difficulty about the job that I do,

00:39:52.860 and realistically everybody behind the scenes should do,

00:39:55.880 is you have to take the ride.

00:39:58.720 Like, I've got to take the ride with everybody else.

00:40:01.200 If I'm not looking at this as a fan, I've already failed.

00:40:05.660 I've got to, oh, man, this is so cool.

00:40:09.220 And like, wow, Jesus is taking me there.

00:40:11.020 And this is crazy.

00:40:12.000 And like, you know, I watch the show sometimes.

00:40:14.700 Like I try, it's hard to do, but I try to take myself out of what we've written.

00:40:21.140 Dusty Rhodes taught me this a long time ago, and I'll never forget it.

00:40:25.020 We were working on NXT.

00:40:26.540 He and I collaborated a lot in the early part of NXT

00:40:28.860 and worked very well creatively together

00:40:31.760 and had a lot of respect for each other and stuff.

00:40:33.900 And there was one show we did where we had all this.

00:40:37.040 I mean, what we had on paper was amazing.

00:40:39.560 And we got done, and it wasn't as amazing as I thought it was going to be.

00:40:43.700 And I was, like, upset.

00:40:46.680 You know, not, like, crazy or anything, but I was, like, clearly not upset.

00:40:51.060 Dusty was really happy.

00:40:52.920 and he saw me upset and he walked by me and he's you know he had all these cliches he would say

00:40:58.600 and he was like the booking ain't easy kid you know what i mean and all that stuff and he was

00:41:02.440 and then he walked by me and he he got serious for a second and he said let me just tell you

00:41:06.500 something he said everything you see in your head is perfectly correct if you get 70 of it

00:41:13.320 to come out on that screen that's a grand slam right keep that in your head 70 so don't imagine

00:41:21.120 this perfect scenario and expect it to be perfect it's never going to be that you're not doing it

00:41:27.020 other people are doing it there's a million factors that go into it 70 is a grand slam

00:41:32.840 so I've always tried to keep that in my head of like oh that was awesome just pictured it better

00:41:41.420 you know what I mean but that's not a bad thing it was still awesome nobody out there knows what

00:41:47.040 you had laid out nobody out there knows what you had planned so you sort of got to have your

00:41:51.600 plan and your ideas and all that stuff and put it together and then as it starts to take place

00:41:57.600 pull yourself out of it sit back as a fan and watch it go down and either enjoy it or don't

00:42:03.520 right there's sometimes just that didn't work for me and i think we're in a bad place it was

00:42:08.080 just didn't work right whatever but if if you can pull yourself out of it and you enjoy it then it

00:42:13.260 was really good and that's what matters it's not man would have been better if you if this little

00:42:19.320 thing happened would have been so much better or something it's irrelevant there's been a lot of

00:42:24.280 blood recently and even some swear words dare i say yeah it's not attitude era-esque but

00:42:31.800 what's going on are we getting edgier before the netflix pivot no you know

00:42:37.160 in in a in a movie um i would rather watch a movie that has incredible drama and an incredible

00:42:48.760 build to one gunshot than watch a movie with just hundreds of people firing machine guns and no one's

00:42:56.120 getting shot and or whatever and there's no like i'd rather build and get to the scene in the movie

00:43:02.460 where the one shot happens and you're like, oh my God, 0.99

00:43:05.680 can you believe he fucking shot him? 1.00

00:43:07.220 And like, holy shit, that's unbelievable. 1.00

00:43:12.280 There's been times when we as a company say we're PG 0.99

00:43:16.440 and we've been G, like way G rated.

00:43:21.640 I believe there's a time for things to work.

00:43:24.720 There's a time for everything.

00:43:27.060 But it's got to be done in moderation.

00:43:30.060 It's got to be done when it's right.

00:43:32.460 Um, because if, if you don't, if you, if everything you say is just cussing, who cares, right?

00:43:40.280 Like you just tune that out and it doesn't matter.

00:43:43.140 But right now we were so clean on it that rock says something given his position and

00:43:51.460 the disruptor and the guy coming in from the outside, it's believable that he has that

00:43:57.040 leeway, doesn't care.

00:43:58.200 and he can do those things, and it's shocking

00:44:01.320 because it's not been that way, right?

00:44:04.560 Cody gets busted open the other day.

00:44:06.320 It's shocking, especially in the right scenario.

00:44:09.380 It was powerful, meant a lot.

00:44:12.740 That happens all the time.

00:44:14.860 Who cares?

00:44:15.680 You know what I mean?

00:44:16.480 So it's not a shift of philosophy.

00:44:19.500 It's just when it's needed, pull the trigger.

00:44:23.160 but the discipline is only pulling the trigger when it really means something and when it's

00:44:30.200 shocking not when it's just oh we should do this when it counts yeah i should just use a bunch of

00:44:35.100 profanity today it doesn't matter you don't need it it's actually a really good point to crutch to

00:44:39.620 be honest 100 all that stuff is a crutch yep i lived through the attitude era yeah when you know

00:44:45.620 look when we put matches together you doesn't what every third word is the f-bomb right like

00:44:50.880 just how it is and that's how people talk but sort of just dialogue to really have it be meaningful

00:44:57.420 it's got to be here and there um I lived through a time period where blood was an you know like an

00:45:04.240 everyday thing and it just it you know it started to not mean anything we we'd be at a little town

00:45:11.320 in the middle of nowhere wrestling in front of 2,000 people and I'd look over and flaredly

00:45:15.840 bleeding like a stuck pig and i'll be what are you doing dude like what yeah what are you doing

00:45:21.580 it it just and nobody cared right like no one that they wouldn't even i i didn't even notice 0.75

00:45:26.220 it happened because there was no big reaction to it or anything it was just it was all the time

00:45:30.960 thing and and uh it just can't be that way to make it be impactful and it's you have to do it in

00:45:36.840 moments when it means something and do it big when you do it do it big and do it in moments when it

00:45:41.420 seen something you know and and uh you know that that the the bus thing with with rock and cody 0.67

00:45:47.660 was a was a holy shit moment for for a lot of those reasons and even rock blurring the lines

00:45:54.620 of putting content out at content out after don't tell me to cut i'll do this when i want to do it 0.96

00:45:59.500 and like you know he's going off holy shit like right like who is this guy yeah you know meanwhile 0.51

00:46:04.900 if you really look at it from a sort of a creative standpoint it's like all right well cody just get 0.80

00:46:10.300 up and run away yeah you know what i mean like it's it there's yeah it's it's storytelling you

00:46:17.400 know i want to talk about this five billion dollar netflix deal that's insane it's a lot of money

00:46:21.720 yeah um what can we expect i mean how did that even come about that's that's insane it's uh

00:46:28.340 it's monumental just even for like television programming in general for netflix having having

00:46:33.620 a live event this to me is one of those um paradigm shifting moments you know like where

00:46:40.020 the whole world changes because you know Netflix was saying not going to get into live sports not

00:46:44.340 going to get into live sports not going to get into live sports then uh you know I know Nick and

00:46:48.500 I got a call from Ari and everyone saying Netflix Netflix is interested we got to get over the

00:46:54.480 hurdle of the live sport thing but they're interested and then we all went in there for

00:46:57.940 a meeting and uh you know when when we left I was kind of like well they're really into this

00:47:03.720 seems like you know what I mean and then it just went really quick from there you know that's the

00:47:07.880 genius of nick and re and and those guys to to do that but um yeah it's a shift of how they look

00:47:15.820 at things it's a shift for us it's to me i think 10 years from now people are going to look at that

00:47:21.500 day that that announcement was made potentially and i read this in a headline so i didn't make

00:47:25.640 it up but like it might potentially be seen as the day cable died right because cable's on the

00:47:31.260 decline right people switching to streaming i mean i have young kids they don't they don't

00:47:36.700 watch anything um you know oh this is on at eight o'clock i have to watch this i gotta watch green

00:47:42.260 acres on cable i watched the bachelor yeah like what do you watch and i you know when i watch

00:47:47.220 cable i tell logan that i'm watching my favorite program yeah program because that's what i feel

00:47:51.300 like i watch like twilight zone or like mr ed you know what mr ed is obviously talking horse

00:47:57.980 that's what i feel like is on cable yeah yeah yeah and look the truth is you can find mr ed

00:48:05.560 on a streaming service watch it whenever you want to watch it right you're just too lazy to look it

00:48:08.620 up and see where it is yeah but like that's the fact my my kids and their normal everyday kids

00:48:15.160 right they only watch cable like if it's the super bowl or a sporting event or something like that

00:48:22.900 and even then like sporting events a lot of them are on streaming services so they kind of go there

00:48:27.340 to watch them you know um so this is it's an interesting thing an interesting play how it's

00:48:32.880 going to work we're figuring all that out we're crossing the t's and dotting the i's now and

00:48:38.160 and trying to figure out exactly how this works how does it all work on a streaming service how

00:48:43.740 how does commercials factor in and you know what what what is all of it and we have until january

00:48:50.720 to figure that all out but it's it's um it's exciting and it's going to be monumental um

00:48:57.260 So that, to me, was the deal of all deals.

00:49:02.320 Like, it was massive.

00:49:03.280 It's crazy.

00:49:03.940 And they're going to be great partners.

00:49:05.200 And the other thing is they want to do so much other stuff with WWE.

00:49:08.200 Like, they've bought into what we are and the creative and the IP

00:49:14.400 and the stories and the characters and all that.

00:49:16.660 You're talking about the PLEs?

00:49:19.000 Yeah, look, I think at the end of the day,

00:49:21.180 it would seem odd to me for them to say, we want Raw.

00:49:27.260 that's it we're good yeah you know what i mean like that doesn't seem to be how they do business

00:49:31.700 so i think at some point when you know down the road when smackdown comes up is that something

00:49:36.760 of interest to them down the road when the ple's come up on peacock that's probably something that's

00:49:41.140 of interest to them so it makes for interesting times and and a really uh promising future dude

00:49:48.220 that would be fucking insane just because of the audience that netflix has built into their

00:49:56.300 platform if you can leverage their audience for your product which is a great product just to get 0.70

00:50:02.720 more eyeballs i mean you go from i don't know how many views like this wrestlemania will get but

00:50:07.740 like you'll be you'll be popping 20 30 40 million live viewers on your wrestlemania's it's all

00:50:13.560 potential right like yeah i mean they where they have like 280 million oh my gosh global dude

00:50:18.140 that's you know that that's look your brother's doing it i was just gonna say yeah that's what i

00:50:23.360 was trying to leave when when i when i first heard that deal and you know i saw the announcement just

00:50:29.220 like everybody else did and was like he's gonna fight tyson and then just in my mind i was like

00:50:33.580 oh that'll be a good pay-per-view that'll be cool like and all that and then i heard netflix and i

00:50:37.140 was like oh they're gonna run a pay-per-view and then when i realized no no it's just on net yeah

00:50:41.080 i was like oh my kid's a genius no it's gonna be crazy it's it's it's really smart um the viewership

00:50:47.360 alone like it just that's gambling on yourself and you know taking it to another level do you

00:50:53.900 think i could uh move from smackdown to raw when you raw goes to netflix i'm sure we'll see people

00:50:58.920 float all the places a thing called in a in a month or so there's a thing called the draft

00:51:03.420 so uh that's when you can uh you can switch around and make moves and

00:51:08.740 you know it's it's all open to giving the best shows uh available on on all things you know

00:51:17.140 Like right now you're on Fox on broadcast, but we'll see.

00:51:21.620 I'd like to switch.

00:51:23.520 Wait, before we go too far off the topic,

00:51:26.320 can I get your thoughts on Jake Paul Tyson as a fight

00:51:29.000 as opposed to a program on Netflix?

00:51:31.540 Like what happens, dude?

00:51:33.400 Yeah, you know, this is one of those things where, just for me,

00:51:37.660 my just own personal opinion of how I feel about it,

00:51:39.540 like I don't know, like can he do this?

00:51:41.740 I see clips of him fighting, but I don't know, you know,

00:51:44.920 who are sparring or doing mitts or whatever.

00:51:47.780 And I don't know when that's from.

00:51:49.380 I don't know if that's brand new.

00:51:50.440 I don't know, you know.

00:51:51.320 Can I make the comparison to Yoda in Star Wars?

00:51:54.160 Yeah.

00:51:54.560 Like, you know Yoda.

00:51:55.580 Yeah.

00:51:55.980 Like, he'd be hobbling around doing whatever.

00:51:57.920 But when Yoda goes to battle, you can't be Yoda.

00:52:01.120 But that's a fiction.

00:52:03.880 That's a movie, man.

00:52:04.840 I don't know.

00:52:05.720 I just think it's about Yoda.

00:52:07.080 It's just an analogy.

00:52:08.240 Alien man in a film.

00:52:09.580 And whatever he is.

00:52:11.060 But wait, that's his element.

00:52:12.940 Yeah, and let's also be honest, though. 0.99

00:52:14.560 So it's like as if Yoda smoked a shit ton of weed. 0.97

00:52:16.780 Yeah. 0.99

00:52:17.920 Mushrooms.

00:52:18.780 DMT.

00:52:20.060 They're saying the sparring footage is recent.

00:52:22.480 I'm sure.

00:52:23.460 I don't know if it is, but that's what I'm saying.

00:52:26.180 And when you watch that sparring footage, I'm scared.

00:52:30.180 You know what I'm saying?

00:52:30.780 I don't want to see him at all.

00:52:32.620 Looks like he can hit like a tank.

00:52:34.040 Yeah.

00:52:34.380 And your brother's really good at keeping people outside.

00:52:36.640 Yeah.

00:52:36.980 Right?

00:52:37.540 Yeah.

00:52:37.940 He's going to be sparring guys who fight like Mike as well.

00:52:40.140 I saw the same footage you saw.

00:52:41.980 I think that everyone has seen because it gets 60 million views a pop on IG. 0.99

00:52:46.420 And, like, I know he's old, but goddamn, he can hit so hard 0.97

00:52:52.900 and he's still so fast in the ring. 0.97

00:52:54.560 Well, did you see Tyson's little interview that he did two days ago?

00:52:58.820 He's invincible.

00:53:00.300 Correct.

00:53:01.020 But here's the thing.

00:53:01.960 He actually is.

00:53:03.900 Like, he's not just saying.

00:53:04.980 Like, when he says that, he actually is invincible.

00:53:07.280 Like, the way he described it, and I didn't expect this from him,

00:53:11.980 like he said he's nervous right now he's nervous to get in there i mean you got you got a young

00:53:17.300 hungry demon in front of you bro me and you have had this conversation before and and and triple

00:53:23.280 h will understand when i say this because he was around for this time like there's there's there's

00:53:28.160 boxers there's good boxers there's the greatest boxers in the world and then there's mike tyson

00:53:33.460 he is he is not in a in a realm of understanding or existence with any other fighter that's ever

00:53:39.700 existed he's not a human he would say it himself he is an animal he's an animal he's a destroyer

00:53:45.680 a destroyer of worlds right and so like how do you prep for that like how do you regardless of

00:53:51.460 age someone that has no disregard has has no regard for human life whatsoever like he like

00:53:57.280 if you make him mad enough in the ring it may turn from losing a fight to losing your life

00:54:01.480 like a homicide or an ear or an ear or exactly if if if the old mike tyson shows up for five minutes

00:54:09.740 Like, how do you get past that?

00:54:11.340 Right.

00:54:11.980 Right?

00:54:12.260 He doesn't need to be there for the whole fight.

00:54:14.340 He needs to be there for five minutes.

00:54:15.700 Couldn't even be there for five seconds.

00:54:16.460 Yeah.

00:54:16.760 I don't know.

00:54:17.420 I hear your strategy, and I see your strategy.

00:54:19.640 I don't know that I wouldn't just run for two or three rounds

00:54:21.620 and hope that he gets tired.

00:54:23.040 Maybe that's a strategy, too.

00:54:24.280 I don't know.

00:54:24.940 Yeah.

00:54:25.820 Punches himself out after two or three rounds,

00:54:27.860 and then you just come in there and pick him apart.

00:54:29.700 But, like, you know, I don't know.

00:54:31.420 Like, and look, my hat's off to both of them for taking the fight,

00:54:36.060 and I understand people's concerns for Mike and all that stuff.

00:54:39.520 He's a grown man.

00:54:40.100 If he wants to take that challenge and medically they check him out

00:54:42.880 and they say he's okay, like, let's go.

00:54:44.240 Do they test for DMT?

00:54:46.180 100%.

00:54:46.620 Do they actually?

00:54:48.240 100%.

00:54:48.640 Mikey, your test came back.

00:54:50.360 Have you been smoking toad yesterday?

00:54:54.660 Chihuahua, Mexico.

00:54:56.480 It's so high he just got all the people that were doing the testing really high

00:55:00.560 and they just passed.

00:55:01.200 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:55:02.200 That's the point.

00:55:04.060 Boss, I'm the U.S. champ.

00:55:06.060 um as you can see there's my belt i see for at least a couple more days i want to remain the

00:55:09.980 u.s champ how can i beat randy orton because he he's the he's the largest guy like i've ever seen

00:55:16.380 in my life yeah he and and randy orton is like the guy that you know and i've known randy since

00:55:22.220 he first started and kid in the business um he is just so gifted at this like i used to tell

00:55:29.180 him all the time when we first started evolution i'd tell him all the time like i wish you could 0.98

00:55:33.260 could just get it through your head the only guy that can fuck this up for you is you and you're 0.89

00:55:37.120 hell-bent on doing it but like like stop you know what i mean like stop you're gonna be you're gonna 0.73

00:55:43.800 do this for a long time and you're gonna be on top for a long time you just gotta let it happen

00:55:48.160 and stop being a mess and angry and all these things and sometimes it's hard when you're that

00:55:53.640 good and you're that gifted to not get lazy about it right like i've seen a lot of gifted people

00:55:59.260 fail in this business because they're just so reliant on it that they're it's easy for them

00:56:03.880 that they don't try like they don't put effort in all the time and it's it is a detriment to

00:56:09.580 their career they end up not making it because of it randy finally got himself to a point where

00:56:13.820 you know he tried so he's tough he's way and i know you haven't really got done a lot of stuff

00:56:20.380 with him yet but when you get in there with him he's so smooth everything he does has meaning

00:56:24.940 And I know you're in the middle of it and all that stuff,

00:56:31.100 but you're so new at this.

00:56:32.800 You will learn so much from being in a ring with him, win or lose.

00:56:37.260 The experience, you'll come out of it way better than when you win in.

00:56:42.580 It'll be great.

00:56:43.360 Great.

00:56:43.920 I do get the pleasure of getting these master classes

00:56:46.380 because these people who I'm wrestling are veterans.

00:56:50.120 And when I'm in there, it's like 18 minutes of knowledge

00:56:53.780 It's just being beamed into my brain.

00:56:55.560 Yeah, and even all the leading up to it, like all these things.

00:56:58.820 I can look back at my career and think of times when I worked with guys.

00:57:02.020 I didn't think anything of it at the time.

00:57:03.800 But looking back at it now, I was like, oh, my God,

00:57:05.600 that was such a learning experience for me.

00:57:07.520 I left that so different and picked up so much stuff from all these guys.

00:57:11.660 But I didn't see it at the time, right?

00:57:13.220 I think you'll look back at this 10 years from now and be like, dude,

00:57:16.200 Randy taught me so much just in those matches that we had.

00:57:19.440 And, you know, it's amazing.

00:57:20.740 But he's one of a kind.

00:57:23.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:57:23.780 And then, you know, Kevin is, like, look, I know you guys have a thing, but, like.

00:57:29.580 There's no thing.

00:57:30.420 I joke, but, like, I fully respect Kevin.

00:57:33.380 Like, he's very, very good.

00:57:35.640 Yeah.

00:57:35.860 But, like, I'm still going to make fun of him.

00:57:37.700 There used to be a guy here, Savio Vega, and there was a couple other guys that I used to refer to as bumblebees

00:57:44.840 because they're, like, a bumblebee scientifically is not supposed to be able to fly.

00:57:50.220 I've always read that, right?

00:57:51.440 But yet it can fly.

00:57:52.860 Right?

00:57:53.220 And there would be all these guys that you would look at

00:57:55.020 and you would go, like, you shouldn't be able to do all the stuff you do.

00:57:57.480 You know, when you look at Kevin, you don't look at him and go, like,

00:58:00.740 hmm, athletic specimen right there.

00:58:03.960 Look at that.

00:58:04.400 No, it makes no sense.

00:58:05.080 Yeah, right?

00:58:05.540 And then you see him do stuff and you're like, dude, this guy's incredible.

00:58:08.660 He can do anything, like anything.

00:58:12.220 And so it's a weird blend there.

00:58:16.460 But Kevin's one of the – you talk about another guy,

00:58:18.720 like when we talked about intelligence, like Kevin's an incredibly smart guy.

00:58:22.420 That's why he's so good at what he does as well.

00:58:24.060 So two smart animals, and y'all put me in there with them

00:58:27.480 in a triple threat match.

00:58:28.880 This WrestleMania, thanks for nothing, Nick Aldis.

00:58:31.500 I don't care that you hurt your shoulder.

00:58:35.320 Tore's bicep, actually.

00:58:36.580 I don't care about your bicep.

00:58:38.080 It's a bad injury, man.

00:58:39.820 Although he could end up with one of those freak Scott Steiner peaks

00:58:42.960 or something like that.

00:58:44.200 Yeah, it'd be even better.

00:58:46.040 One thing I'm extremely excited for this WrestleMania,

00:58:50.020 Prime Logo Center Ring.

00:58:51.240 Prime logo, center ring.

00:58:52.860 I actually can't believe it's happening.

00:58:55.160 Can you tell me how that decision was reached?

00:58:58.800 Because there's never been a logo center ring, or has there?

00:59:02.620 No, we've done little things here and there with logos.

00:59:07.020 WCW did some a long time ago with logos.

00:59:10.200 You see them in boxing.

00:59:11.080 It's tough in what we do.

00:59:13.300 There's a safety factor of the slipperiness of the ring.

00:59:16.420 As you know, we've been going through this process

00:59:18.080 and trying to get on the other side of that.

00:59:20.880 and we were finally able to make it work.

00:59:22.440 But it took a long time to get there.

00:59:25.200 It was a different shift in philosophy.

00:59:27.200 This is not the WWE that it was before.

00:59:29.540 This is a WWE under TKO.

00:59:32.040 And how they look at it and how they, you know, sell things is different.

00:59:37.220 So that center mat logo is obviously sort of like holy ground in a way.

00:59:44.980 And the fact that you're here and such a big star

00:59:47.920 and yet are also your company, your prime brand is taking that real estate up.

00:59:55.280 That's a massive feather in your cap, dude.

00:59:58.380 No, for sure, man.

00:59:59.220 It's going to be crazy to be wrestling on it, to see my peers wrestling on it.

01:00:04.380 I actually can't believe it's happening.

01:00:06.700 It's going to be a bit of a surreal moment walking in and seeing that logo on the ring.

01:00:09.980 But just from our side, we're so excited about this partnership, dude.

01:00:13.620 We have these custom WrestleMania bottles that will be sprinkled around the arena.

01:00:18.080 We're doing an activation at WWE World with, like, an impossible-to-open Prime bottle.

01:00:23.460 And hopefully someone's going to open it, but it's impossible.

01:00:25.760 So we'll see.

01:00:27.400 It's like the King Arthur sword.

01:00:29.180 It's exactly like that.

01:00:30.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:30.900 Yeah, it's cool.

01:00:31.780 It's going to end up being some, like, two-year-old, I guarantee it.

01:00:34.860 But, yeah.

01:00:36.000 What do you win if you get the cap off?

01:00:37.580 I told them to put 10K in it.

01:00:39.640 Okay.

01:00:42.660 Cash.

01:00:43.620 it's cool you should go to wwe world and try well is it a normal size bottle no it's huge oh that

01:00:50.960 makes sense okay it's like this big um yeah man we're we're really pumped that we want it all to

01:00:56.140 go right um i'm i'm i'm eager to see how people will react to it if at all because i feel like

01:01:02.980 it's going to be one of those things where eventually it just blends in yeah you know

01:01:06.760 like you no one knows that the the monster logo is in the middle of the ufc ring no one likes

01:01:12.580 change right yeah they're so used to seeing this thing pristine with nothing there that might get

01:01:18.740 90 of people hate it and they're gonna they're gonna hate it they're gonna do all this stuff

01:01:22.440 and then as you said as you move forward it's it's there it's just there you know what i mean

01:01:27.620 and and if you're watching every single day you stop if you don't like it you stop noticing it

01:01:31.860 and but but the advertisement of it and the the promotion you get out of it is massive let's see

01:01:37.680 That's crazy. 0.98

01:01:38.780 Damn, between WWE and UFC, 1.00

01:01:42.440 people are just always getting their ass beat on top of Prime Bottles. 1.00

01:01:45.460 Myself included. 0.99

01:01:46.320 Yeah.

01:01:47.040 It's actually pretty cool.

01:01:48.240 Even KSI.

01:01:49.560 Yeah.

01:01:50.820 Another bump from a member of the Logan Paul universe. 0.99

01:01:54.220 Dude, we all go in there and get our asses beat at some point. 0.98

01:01:56.700 That's what he does. 0.98

01:01:57.180 I don't know if you've noticed it yet,

01:01:58.460 but at some point, yeah, you're going to wander in there 0.99

01:02:00.740 and get punched in the face. 0.96

01:02:01.720 It's just what he does. 0.98

01:02:02.460 All the people around him take the abuse.

01:02:03.600 I'm going to be honest with you.

01:02:04.800 I've already done it. 0.52

01:02:06.140 Well, I got kicked in the face.

01:02:07.340 When I said genius, there you go. 0.81

01:02:09.040 I said genius.

01:02:09.700 Yeah, he's pretty smart. 1.00

01:02:10.440 Hey, you should run in right there and get punched in the face. 1.00

01:02:12.900 Well, I make my getaway. 1.00

01:02:16.300 The UFC-WWE TKO merger partnership is crazy.

01:02:23.080 Any plans on it?

01:02:24.260 It's been done a little bit.

01:02:25.380 I know Michael Chandler did a little UFC promo at a WWE event,

01:02:30.840 but is there going to be any crossover between the athletes?

01:02:33.700 I don't know.

01:02:34.940 I think that's all on the table to do, but their athletes are pretty busy.

01:02:40.120 Ours are pretty busy.

01:02:42.320 I think that you're probably likely to, you know, like Chandler coming on ours

01:02:45.900 or Ray Mysterio was at a fight a little while ago for UFC

01:02:49.100 and did some stuff with them.

01:02:50.960 I think you'll see stuff like that.

01:02:52.460 I think you'll also see us going into markets with combined events.

01:02:56.040 So like where we go in on maybe it's a Friday and there's a SmackDown

01:03:01.940 and then Saturday there's a UFC fight

01:03:04.180 and then Sunday there's something WWE where you go into a region

01:03:07.720 and sort of just take over.

01:03:09.420 That's awesome.

01:03:10.060 So we're looking at, you know, experiences like that

01:03:13.000 and different ways to combine the two.

01:03:14.600 But, you know, while there's similarities to what we do

01:03:17.300 because it's, you know, combat-centric,

01:03:20.840 we couldn't be any more different, right?

01:03:23.180 Like, you know, I remember having a conversation with Dana a long time ago.

01:03:28.380 This was that we were at the ESPYs on a red carpet

01:03:30.220 and they had just done the China Performance Institute and all that stuff.

01:03:34.960 They just made all this massive investment there.

01:03:37.020 And I had said it had just come out and we were talking

01:03:39.940 and I said, hey, congratulations on the China stuff.

01:03:41.880 He was like, yeah, no, it's an awesome time right now. 0.97

01:03:44.400 He said, I just have to get the Chinese girl to win on Saturday

01:03:47.900 because they had a pay-per-view.

01:03:49.400 And he's like, if she wins, it's awesome.

01:03:51.400 If she doesn't, like, I'm doomed.

01:03:53.700 And I was like, it's the beauty of what we do.

01:03:55.300 Like, I know she wins in our sport.

01:03:57.340 Like, it's different.

01:03:58.540 So there's such a difference in what we do.

01:04:01.600 It's hard to blend the two, except for when it works.

01:04:03.900 But they sort of almost have to be separate from like Brock wasn't actively fighting while he was here doing this.

01:04:11.440 I think you sort of have to be all in on one or the other.

01:04:14.620 Tough to do both.

01:04:15.320 Is there anybody that you see currently in the WWE sphere that has a skill set that would lend itself to potentially doing a cameo in the UFC?

01:04:24.860 I don't know.

01:04:25.500 That sport is so difficult.

01:04:27.620 Like, even there's some guys that work for us that have strong amateur backgrounds or whatever, right?

01:04:34.260 Yeah.

01:04:34.660 You know, the amateur wrestling, Chad Gable or whatever.

01:04:38.140 But, like, that's a whole different world when somebody starts punching and kicking at you, too.

01:04:42.580 Like, you know, there's so many factors to that.

01:04:46.060 So for me to say, oh, I think this person from our world would do good because they seem like they're tough.

01:04:52.200 Send me.

01:04:53.160 It's irrelevant.

01:04:53.840 Send me.

01:04:54.340 Yeah.

01:04:54.800 Well, you might do, right?

01:04:56.080 We be in.

01:04:57.120 Yeah.

01:04:57.440 I wrestled.

01:04:58.080 I don't know.

01:04:58.500 I wrestled.

01:04:59.180 Now.

01:04:59.800 Yeah.

01:05:00.760 I would do it.

01:05:01.560 I would totally do it.

01:05:02.340 Yeah.

01:05:02.780 For the right dance partner, yeah.

01:05:05.040 I would love to do a UFC fight.

01:05:06.520 And now that, you know, you guys are partners.

01:05:09.140 Yeah.

01:05:09.340 I think at the right time.

01:05:10.980 Sure.

01:05:11.320 It could make a lot of sense.

01:05:12.620 Yeah. 0.54

01:05:12.920 Man, who the hell are you going to fight, bro? 0.81

01:05:18.860 Don't look at me like that, but I just mean like. 0.90

01:05:20.700 I don't know.

01:05:21.880 Who do you want me to fight, Mike?

01:05:25.480 Maybe Conor or something like that.

01:05:26.920 But it would have to be, like, right now, like, straight off a binge weekend.

01:05:30.240 Oh, yeah.

01:05:30.640 Like, no training.

01:05:32.060 Yeah.

01:05:32.400 Like, that fight would work.

01:05:33.680 Like, he's actually hung over when he shows up.

01:05:35.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:36.300 Something like that would work.

01:05:37.460 Like, current, like, Roadhouse movie promoting Connor, like, showing up, like, yeah, with

01:05:42.580 Jabberjaw.

01:05:42.860 Yeah, the movie's great, man.

01:05:43.600 Gene, Jake Gyllenhaal.

01:05:44.560 That might work.

01:05:45.740 I did the movie.

01:05:46.960 I don't know what was going on there.

01:05:48.720 Oh, you know what was going on, brother.

01:05:50.460 You know what was going on.

01:05:51.800 I do.

01:05:52.300 I do.

01:05:52.860 But wait, but who else could?

01:05:54.920 It doesn't matter.

01:05:55.420 point is i'm your guy i seriously am he doesn't believe no no look i do i don't want to see you 0.99

01:06:00.860 sprawled on a prime logo no that's you know because if i get my ass kicked yeah my stock 0.96

01:06:05.920 goes down i come back here and no one believes actually let me say that differently it's okay 0.89

01:06:09.260 if you're laid out on a prime logo it's not if you're in a monster energy yeah yeah can you imagine

01:06:14.920 and whoever it is would be dragging them right there yeah yeah we were talking about the the

01:06:20.580 prime logo center ring and how it was slippery and like you just said there was a whole process

01:06:24.860 of figuring out like how to make it safe because obviously, you know,

01:06:28.440 we're covered in oil, we sweat, sometimes bleed, the logo gets slippery.

01:06:32.520 And in my head, I just am thinking like, I know it's going to be me

01:06:35.660 that's going to pull an ACL on the Prime logo for the first time.

01:06:38.760 It's going to be me.

01:06:39.780 It's going to contribute to an injury.

01:06:41.820 Laying around squirming on top of your own product.

01:06:45.360 It's embarrassing.

01:06:46.280 Instant karma.

01:06:47.020 It'd be horrible.

01:06:47.880 Yeah, I can picture that.

01:06:48.960 You know the meme where the guy hits the guy and the coins all come out of him?

01:06:52.380 It'll be bad if it's all Prime bottles coming out of you.

01:06:54.860 Right before you lay out on the Monster Energy thing.

01:06:57.300 Do you have a Ghost X account?

01:06:59.000 I feel like you're the one making those memes.

01:07:01.180 Those coin memes are going crazy.

01:07:03.180 They're everywhere.

01:07:03.960 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:04.320 You see them everywhere, right?

01:07:06.560 Yeah.

01:07:08.000 Man, this is great.

01:07:09.400 This is going to be a fun WrestleMania.

01:07:10.740 It's going to be a blast.

01:07:12.540 Yeah, I'm thrilled, excited.

01:07:14.960 I'm excited for the talent.

01:07:16.260 I'm excited for fans.

01:07:18.440 And like I said before, I feel like this is the launching pad.

01:07:20.820 It's the jump-off point where we're going to go to a whole other level.

01:07:24.140 You want to leak anything on our show today?

01:07:26.040 You got any surprises planned?

01:07:27.360 You want to hype anything up?

01:07:29.100 No, there'll be some.

01:07:30.600 Look, it's WrestleMania, so you know you're going to get to see some cool stuff.

01:07:33.920 But maybe tell them on our show here on this show.

01:07:35.740 Yeah, I don't want to ruin it here.

01:07:38.460 Why would you watch?

01:07:39.680 I'm rooting for Cody.

01:07:40.900 I'm rooting for Cody.

01:07:41.620 Are you?

01:07:41.940 You want to see him finish the story?

01:07:43.060 I do.

01:07:43.500 I really do.

01:07:44.340 I was one of the ones who tweeted.

01:07:45.900 Yeah, I want to ask you about that. 0.99

01:07:47.700 When you're in the office in the oh shit mode and everybody, 0.97

01:07:50.840 which I know you told me doesn't happen because you're just excited about the pop, 0.99

01:07:53.500 and everybody's like damn yo like the audience is really pissed about this switch over and then 0.95

01:07:58.940 you see young upstart star logan paul taking the fan side did you see that tweet did you hear about 0.98

01:08:06.220 it did it get back to you no i i look you know i especially on that kind of stuff you know when

01:08:10.980 you're looking at it right it'll feed you all the all the people that you look at all the time

01:08:15.340 their stuff, right? So, um, I saw it for sure. Man, I love, I love that banter and that debate

01:08:23.580 about it. That's what makes this so cool, right? Like there's no, I mean, there is, but in a lot

01:08:30.560 of this, there's no right and wrong, right? It's, uh, Pat Patterson used to always say it's chocolate

01:08:35.920 and vanilla, right? Like it's all good. It's all ice cream. Just what flavor you want. And I can

01:08:41.800 give you five different flavors as we're moving down this line with this with this thing but

01:08:46.600 they're all good um you know you almost kind of can't make a bad decision but I did I did think

01:08:52.440 it was cool um and we've seen it before but I do think it's cool when you're telling a story

01:09:00.840 that you're really invested in right like because obviously we're writing these stories and at some

01:09:07.440 point in time, you begin to take like, man, I know here's where we're going. This is going to

01:09:11.820 be great. It's going to be awesome. And then something happens where you have to pivot and

01:09:14.520 you're like, oh man, I really thought where we were going was good. And there's sort of a bit

01:09:20.560 of a validation in there of fans being like, no, like you can't deviate off this. I'm, I've bought

01:09:27.200 into this story. I'm in this now. Like you can't take a left turn all of a sudden in the middle of

01:09:33.320 this thing that i'm so invested in i'm not going to let you right and and for them to get that be

01:09:38.860 that passionate about it um i didn't watch it but like um game of thrones when people were so upset

01:09:45.440 like at various points when the story would go a different way or at the end of the season and so

01:09:50.460 to me you know when people are thinking man they screwed up like they did this or whatever i'm like

01:09:55.120 no they didn't screw up like people are that passionate about their show there's no screwing

01:10:00.280 up there like they people were that invested that they were losing their minds over them having a

01:10:06.320 bad episode or a storyline that went the way that they thought it shouldn't have go so when you see

01:10:11.420 stuff like this where there's especially when it's a storyline thing like this was a storyline thing

01:10:16.260 that shifted like that's not screwing up that's letting you know the story you were doing was

01:10:20.720 working massively and let's figure out how to capitalize on that well you know not to be too

01:10:25.380 corny but as a fan uh it must feel really empowering to know that you like you have an

01:10:31.660 influence live on how your favorite company makes its product that's insane you know look i think

01:10:38.780 it's whether you cheer or boo it's being heard yeah i think that it's one of the success points

01:10:45.520 of wwe right like any other sport or live thing that's happening like you can boo and cheer you

01:10:53.100 You can go to a sporting event and boo and cheer all you want.

01:10:56.180 At the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

01:10:58.000 Knockout's going to happen.

01:10:58.840 Knockout's going to happen.

01:10:59.620 It doesn't matter.

01:11:00.020 You like the guy, don't like the guy, right?

01:11:01.420 You just either pick the right team or the wrong team.

01:11:05.200 But in what we do, like that, everything we do is for that reaction.

01:11:12.720 It's all built on that, right?

01:11:14.220 When you get in the ring, everything you do is built on getting the biggest reaction

01:11:19.540 throughout that match that you can.

01:11:23.100 you know there was a moment the other night where cody got to rock for the first time and for me

01:11:30.460 like it was the one moment in that whole thing i just couldn't wait for like i was like and because

01:11:36.880 i approach a lot of this sometimes you know as a heel for most of my career right so like

01:11:40.700 i look at it as that's that moment where you've built up all this heat and then you give them a

01:11:45.980 taste of what it can be like if they get to you and they lose their minds that's the magic that's

01:11:50.860 but you work towards.

01:11:52.520 And I don't know, a lot of guys see it that way,

01:11:54.900 but that's really what it is.

01:11:57.100 So, like, I was waiting for that moment

01:12:00.200 because I know what's about to happen,

01:12:01.640 and I'm like, they're going to lose their mind when this happens,

01:12:04.760 and they did, and it's just magic, you know.

01:12:08.660 So knowing where you're going and knowing how they're going to react,

01:12:12.100 but then I think for fans,

01:12:14.320 knowing that them collectively booing something

01:12:19.480 or them collectively being indifferent about it

01:12:22.280 or them collectively cheering for it,

01:12:24.420 it at all times navigates where we're going,

01:12:29.920 tells us where to go, tells us where to turn,

01:12:32.320 tells us how to pivot and do all that stuff.

01:12:35.420 If they're buying tickets, they're buying merchandise,

01:12:38.400 they're reacting certain ways, that's all guidance

01:12:40.880 to what we're doing and where we're going creatively.

01:12:43.060 I watched Cody Get to the Rock live.

01:12:45.820 I was watching SmackDowns, as I do.

01:12:48.060 Was it Raw or SmackDown?

01:12:50.100 Whatever it was, I was watching.

01:12:51.960 And I, too, was really excited to see it finally happen.

01:12:55.140 And my one takeaway was, man, Dwayne still got it.

01:12:58.780 Yeah.

01:12:59.060 Yo, he can move.

01:13:00.280 That's what I said.

01:13:01.140 He can move.

01:13:01.660 Yeah, when he came back, I was like, dude, that's A++ plus heel selling right there, man.

01:13:08.420 That's the thing.

01:13:09.420 And, you know, my hat's off to him at, you know, I don't know what's doing, 52?

01:13:14.280 Something like that.

01:13:14.880 Somewhere in that ballpark or something?

01:13:16.100 like you know hasn't done this in a decade right like in a big level like my hat's off to him it's

01:13:23.300 not easy to do especially when you're doing it now and then yeah and and the now is really far

01:13:28.920 away from the then that's that's impressive my hat's off to him and everything else that he's

01:13:34.880 doing too at the same time like i was just thinking about i wanted to ask you about this a little bit

01:13:38.580 because i was coming in here today i was i've been letting my hair grow out a little bit more

01:13:42.160 because my mom and my girlfriend think it makes me look a little bit softer she said i look like

01:13:45.780 I noticed when I walked in, you looked soft.

01:13:48.320 Yeah.

01:13:51.820 Thanks, Triple H.

01:13:52.860 Appreciate that. 0.73

01:13:54.140 Yeah, it's my, like, sweeter, you know, feminine side coming in.

01:13:56.840 But I noticed on the side, I noticed a couple gray hairs were starting to pop.

01:14:03.340 I can see them.

01:14:03.740 Yeah, yeah, I know.

01:14:04.380 Yeah, I'm getting the salt and pepper going.

01:14:06.160 Wow.

01:14:06.620 Yeah.

01:14:07.320 And I just wanted to ask you.

01:14:10.340 No need to harp on the gray hairs.

01:14:11.540 i just wanted to ask you if uh if do you feel like the age getting to you at all do you feel

01:14:16.500 like like days are getting a little slower a little harder like and and you and the rock

01:14:22.600 and any of these guys like at what point does it start to catch up to you yeah like it look

01:14:26.100 there's a certain point especially in this right it's a young man's business so a certain point

01:14:31.160 time when you've done this for a long time like yeah stuff catches up to you it's it's it's not

01:14:36.200 the years it's the mileage right right and there's a lot of mileage anybody that comes

01:14:40.620 came through that that time frame in that era you know i see a lot of guys that are my age that came

01:14:45.900 through that era and i watch them walk around i'm like jesus christ he can't move you know

01:14:49.240 i think you have to stay in shape you got to keep working out like um we joke all the time my wife

01:14:55.180 and i with our trainer like it's not training for an event it's training for life now it's just to

01:15:00.600 be like to get through life like i still want to be active do stuff with my kids be able to do

01:15:05.820 whatever i want to do if you know uh we have lake house we want to go swimming i want to do

01:15:10.200 go hiking do whatever it is i want to be able to do whatever i want to do and not have to be like

01:15:13.960 oh my knees will be erect nobody wants to throw their back out picking up groceries that's when

01:15:18.180 you know it that's when you know it's a exactly yeah exactly and you just can't let that happen

01:15:22.940 to yourself but at the same point in time um you know i know a lot of people that never did anything

01:15:28.080 physical that are in worse way worse shape and but there's mileage there right so you just have

01:15:33.340 to you got to take care of yourself and i don't know i like that i get the gray hair stuff just

01:15:38.140 pick up some just for men i think don't you maybe you know this i don't know where you were at when

01:15:44.300 you decided to take it all off but like women they like the salt and pepper dude like like

01:15:49.220 cluny cluny crushes the the gray and the salt and pepper yeah look we're we're lucky as men right 0.99

01:15:55.040 women it's the opposite it's different right like so you know guys get a little bit of wrinkles and

01:16:01.580 some character to their face and

01:16:03.720 you get some gray hairs and stuff. He's weathered.

01:16:05.580 He's weathered. He's a great grizzled 0.99

01:16:07.660 veteran.

01:16:09.340 And it works for you.

01:16:12.640 There's

01:16:13.160 something about that as you get older, more

01:16:15.520 mature and all that stuff and it's cool.

01:16:18.200 You know, you never hear

01:16:19.100 like, unfortunately, you never hear people

01:16:21.620 say like, oh man, she's

01:16:23.620 a, you know. She really grew

01:16:25.720 into it. A grizzled, wiser

01:16:27.740 woman. I'm really into that.

01:16:29.480 You know, it's just not something you hear, right, unfortunately.

01:16:34.060 Right, right, right, right.

01:16:34.880 Luckily for us, you can age, and it fits some people, and it works for them.

01:16:38.960 Other people, not so much, but it just is what it is.

01:16:41.040 Well, they got science for that type of thing nowadays.

01:16:43.380 Sure.

01:16:43.900 We could all be as young as we want to be. 1.00

01:16:45.400 I also just think you got to accept shit, right? 1.00

01:16:47.400 I don't know. 1.00

01:16:47.700 There's a certain point in time to me where people just look, like, yeah, you're fucking getting older. 0.98

01:16:51.680 Like, stop, like, I don't know, putting in filler and all the other shit where your face doesn't move, 0.98

01:16:56.980 and you, like, you laugh, and you're like, ha, ha, ha, ha. 1.00

01:16:58.940 nothing moves right like you're not fooling anybody you're just like an idiot but there's 0.99

01:17:03.080 certain things you could do like without filler that people don't do like dude drink some water 0.99

01:17:08.400 man like have some water you know like water for men like the easiest thing you can do is 0.97

01:17:14.620 put a fucking cheap cvs bought moisturizer on your face every morning and every night when you go to 0.98

01:17:20.020 bed moisturize logan can i just say this is a man petrified of his aging process right now he has 0.99

01:17:26.780 clearly done research no those are so easy holy shit these wrinkles the wrinkles on the side of 0.98

01:17:31.780 my eye are driving me nuts like i look old as shit i got gray hair but he looked but he looks good 0.97

01:17:36.600 i think especially because you know the whole decade of drug usage like i don't somehow like 0.97

01:17:41.880 preserved his face well they say you stay the age that you were when you started using drugs and i

01:17:46.860 think they mean physically too you know who says that you know who says that drug addicts yeah

01:17:51.940 I made that up right now.

01:17:53.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:54.360 They convince themselves that, no, no, it's all good.

01:17:57.740 It stopped me from aging at that point.

01:17:59.680 Yeah, dude, it did something good.

01:18:01.180 Pat's or Gino's steaks, cheesesteaks?

01:18:04.280 Or would you even be able to answer that question?

01:18:06.940 No, I've had them both.

01:18:09.600 It's funny.

01:18:10.660 I spent from started training when I was like 14, right,

01:18:15.400 and was like obsessed with trying to be in WWE and all that stuff.

01:18:18.440 and food became like fuel to me it wasn't a smart food yeah so it's a funny thing like i'm still

01:18:26.740 not into it just kind of eat right now like i don't i'm i'm i've downsized because i want to

01:18:34.480 i don't need to be 250 pounds i need to be 225 230 pounds is where i'm at i don't need to be that

01:18:40.480 big so i don't eat as much i eat when i'm hungry i i but i still eat the same like i'm just i eat

01:18:45.360 super clean all the time every now and then i'll cheat like with my kids or something but

01:18:49.120 for the most part just eat clean so i don't even really think about like you're the same as him

01:18:53.660 literally the exact same thing yeah it's just it's i've done it so long and you're probably

01:18:58.120 the same way that it just i don't know if it like even if we're going out on the weekend or

01:19:03.460 something and steph goes hey let's go have a cheat what do you what do you what do you really

01:19:07.200 want to have i'm like i don't care and then we'll go someplace and it's like all this crazy stuff

01:19:11.580 And I'm like, can I just get the, I'll get a filet and a salad or something.

01:19:15.860 You know, just, I don't know.

01:19:17.220 Eat to survive.

01:19:18.140 Yeah.

01:19:18.440 Not necessarily for pleasure.

01:19:19.800 Yeah.

01:19:20.180 Two different types of people.

01:19:21.440 Yeah.

01:19:21.640 Some people are obsessive and those are usually the fatter ones.

01:19:24.020 As I said, I'm a bit softer since last time.

01:19:25.960 Yeah.

01:19:27.240 But yeah, no, I get it.

01:19:28.300 There could be an addictive factor as well.

01:19:30.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:31.340 A hundred percent.

01:19:32.280 Maybe there's a correlation.

01:19:33.580 I don't know.

01:19:34.160 He's got it in him.

01:19:35.280 Yeah, yeah.

01:19:36.100 He got that gene.

01:19:37.500 There's a trend there maybe.

01:19:39.360 Yeah, for sure.

01:19:40.980 Saying, look, and I say that from a place of all my friends were.

01:19:44.860 Yeah, right, right, right.

01:19:45.780 You get it.

01:19:46.640 Yeah, I hung out with the worst ones.

01:19:48.260 Right, right.

01:19:49.300 Dude, this has been great.

01:19:50.500 Yeah.

01:19:51.040 Congratulations on all the success.

01:19:52.680 Same to you, man.

01:19:53.380 You know, it's funny, like, watching you in what we do.

01:19:58.980 Like, you had kind of alluded it to me.

01:20:02.360 I watched your fight where afterwards you said that boxing thing's like a hobby.

01:20:05.540 I think I found my calling as a WWE superstar. 0.97

01:20:08.980 are and i'm inside myself watching on tv and i was like oh fuck yeah there you go he's got the 0.90

01:20:15.340 bug there you go like let's let's go now um i'm i'm happy for you man like you you and you you've 0.98

01:20:21.640 said stuff to me just in little things in passing when you when you said the thing to me about like

01:20:25.440 i want to be good at this i don't want to be i don't want to train to have a match i want to

01:20:28.800 train to be good at this like that's cool that's a commitment change with all the things you got

01:20:33.620 going on and all the stuff you don't have to think that way it's awesome that you do man so my hat's

01:20:37.920 off to you i look at all the success that you have um you know and i don't know well enough

01:20:42.700 to say this and i don't mean it as a as a uh you know in the way that it could be taken but like

01:20:47.980 i'm proud of you man like you should really be you've done some amazing shit with your life

01:20:53.600 um and you should be proud of that thank you um definitely really proud i am excited to see how

01:20:59.960 far i can take this wwe thing um and thanks for believing in me man it's going to be a great

01:21:04.860 weekend uh as someone who works for the company and your product i'm proud of you i'm proud of

01:21:10.020 what you guys have built and uh keep up the hard work it definitely does not go unnoticed

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