Impaulsive with Logan Paul - WHAT HAPPENED TO DEVON WERKHEISER FROM NED’S DECLASSIFIED？ - IMPAULSIVE - EP. 98

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00:02:48.320 the show yeah sure that's what we're doing welcome back to impulsive the number one podcast in the

00:02:52.240 world thank you guys for listening watching viewing subscribing i'm eating waffles and eggs

00:02:55.900 As you can see here

00:02:56.580 Because we're a little late

00:02:57.640 We kind of ran in

00:02:58.320 We've been shooting all morning

00:02:59.340 Our guest is pissed

00:03:00.740 Rightfully so

00:03:01.400 I'm so sorry

00:03:02.180 I am so sorry

00:03:03.240 We

00:03:03.780 He was about to walk

00:03:05.820 He was about to walk

00:03:06.460 But I noticed

00:03:07.380 Andre you're not even

00:03:08.040 On the monopod today

00:03:09.060 Are you alright

00:03:09.760 Yeah

00:03:10.300 Tripod works

00:03:11.300 Great

00:03:11.540 Okay cool

00:03:12.160 So here we are

00:03:13.020 We're back

00:03:13.720 Everything's good

00:03:14.560 We're sweating a little bit

00:03:15.260 I got a hot date tonight

00:03:16.160 Excited about that

00:03:17.260 Oh can I get that deodorant actually

00:03:18.580 Yeah but it's not all natural

00:03:19.660 It's fine

00:03:20.160 Actually no it's not fine

00:03:21.800 You might end up with some aluminum 1.00

00:03:23.560 In your fucking veins 1.00

00:03:24.760 I don't want that 1.00

00:03:25.240 Not worth the risk.

00:03:26.140 I don't want aluminum deodorant cancer. 1.00

00:03:29.540 So, yeah, man, I got a hot date tonight with the older woman, man.

00:03:32.380 We talked about it.

00:03:33.060 You heard it on the last podcast.

00:03:34.700 I'm a little excited.

00:03:35.400 I want to ask our guest if he has any advice because I think I need it.

00:03:38.580 I realize I can't.

00:03:40.260 Don't make me do something.

00:03:41.440 I'm all regret.

00:03:42.180 Don't make me act up, baby.

00:03:45.040 Nah, I can't talk to this girl like, you know, I do the normal girls my age and under me.

00:03:51.300 I got to treat her like a woman, like a princess.

00:03:53.100 So what are you doing different? 1.00

00:03:54.520 yeah what are you gonna talk about with her i don't know what do you say to older women like 1.00

00:03:57.960 like uh how were the kids today um i mean they i would think they want to get away from the kids 1.00

00:04:05.120 probably don't want to talk about divorce she probably she probably wants to be sucked into

00:04:09.220 my life maybe a little bit and be rejuvenated yep you know what i'm saying thank you more eggs 0.98

00:04:13.900 yes that's a lot of eggs i need my protein how many eggs is that at least four four eggs four

00:04:19.200 yeah i already had like six hey it's gonna turn so i'm excited for that um i know that you did a

00:04:23.500 podcast yesterday uh you went on adam 22's no jumper podcast with phase phase banks are you

00:04:28.100 stabbing us in the back hell no bro i was out there i can't tell you the amount of times i

00:04:32.880 used the word impulsive oh for real that podcast it's listen dylan isn't cross promoting a big 0.85

00:04:38.560 deal in podcasts like you go on somebody's podcast talk about your podcast sure but it is and you're

00:04:43.280 saying if logan had said that you probably would have been like yes it is like he said sure he

00:04:47.340 affirmed it all right cross promotion's a big deal i was on there i was talking about impulsive

00:04:51.100 what we do how we do it um but yeah it was good bro me banks adam yeah it looks like it's getting

00:04:57.880 views dude it's getting views it just was a lot i wonder who's pulling the views you or banks

00:05:01.780 definitely thanks bro well i know you're joking no i'm not i'm not because like bro you're kind

00:05:06.820 of winning right now your channel that you just made is kind of on fire like you get views man

00:05:11.900 you're popping i don't know how to say this to you yeah but banks is like the og i'm not discounting

00:05:16.560 myself that much but like i think it was the the three of us together too because it was like three

00:05:20.820 solid combo east coast like just like adam's from new hampshire i'm from connecticut banks from

00:05:27.140 lull mass and so like the three of us together just talking about all these like crazy topics

00:05:31.220 banks had a revelation about tana mongoose yeah yeah uh what what was the revelation about tana

00:05:36.960 mongoose i was i said yeah oh i didn't know if you heard me that they'd had a an intercourse 0.88

00:05:41.700 oh can you say that tana my brother's current fiance had had sex with phase banks it was a 0.82

00:05:50.500 while back and i guess it was well now it's even yeah i'm not gonna make any i'm not even gonna

00:05:56.060 make a single facial remark of any kind i'm gonna sit here just like this until the topic changes

00:06:02.920 now should we invite the guest on yeah let's do it all right ladies and gentlemen um we walked in

00:06:11.100 extremely late and i'm so sorry for that uh today's guest is an actor and a musician we start

00:06:16.660 together in a movie where's the money on netflix he'll be out on tour soon and can be seen in the

00:06:20.980 upcoming movie crown vic which is gonna be sick it's devin workheiser what's up guys how you doing

00:06:30.040 man what's up guys i'm just i'm just here waiting for you i know i know i'm just here waiting i know

00:06:35.940 when you first got here you didn't have a beard i know i didn't i didn't i know bro i'm so sorry 0.99

00:06:41.300 scale of one to ten be honest with me devin how mad are you dude like a eight fuck i know 0.99

00:06:45.980 I can tell. He's professional, bro. 0.99

00:06:47.880 He's a movie star. Well, I know. I did a movie with it.

00:06:50.000 It's just disrespectful. It is so

00:06:52.060 bad. When you came in, did you expect

00:06:53.820 Logan Paul was going to break

00:06:56.140 that controversial

00:06:57.960 character that everyone thinks he's going to be?

00:06:59.980 And then you come in and you're like, oh, sorry. Logan won't

00:07:01.980 be here for another, well, four hours.

00:07:04.160 Yeah. No, I was like, oh,

00:07:06.000 cool. I'm going to see Logan.

00:07:08.460 Nope. Nope.

00:07:10.380 He's going to make me wait.

00:07:11.840 I tried to push to 1230 and then

00:07:13.820 one, but apparently you showed up at the 0.99

00:07:15.840 original time of noon yeah i'm pretty punctual dude fuck you are you are man and you know why 0.98

00:07:19.760 i knew it was bad because we did that movie together where's the money shout out king 0.96

00:07:22.560 bachelor and um on the movie man you're the coolest dude ever like you're awesome and then

00:07:30.680 you walked in i walked in i was like hey i'm so sorry you're like yeah man i've been sitting here

00:07:34.380 for a hour and a half and i was like oh no never seen you heat it though nah no you never had me

00:07:39.740 heated on the movie i'm so sorry no it's cool we're here we're here we're doing it last night

00:07:43.900 I was getting dinner

00:07:44.600 and I saw someone wearing

00:07:45.700 a Maverick sweatshirt at dinner.

00:07:47.340 I'm not.

00:07:47.620 No way.

00:07:47.980 I'm not.

00:07:48.240 I'm curious what restaurant this was.

00:07:49.900 It clearly wasn't Masters.

00:07:50.780 I was at Belcampo on 3rd Street,

00:07:52.980 the burger joint.

00:07:53.900 Burger joints.

00:07:54.860 I was getting a veggie burger.

00:07:55.980 Home of the Maverick.

00:07:56.480 Vegetarian.

00:07:57.260 Hashtag.

00:07:58.020 There we go.

00:07:59.240 Why not vegan?

00:08:01.060 Because I like eggs and I'm hungry.

00:08:03.620 We knew a vegan once

00:08:04.700 that was full vegan.

00:08:05.640 He cared so much about animals.

00:08:06.980 We knew a vegan once.

00:08:07.580 I love the way you just phrased that.

00:08:09.160 He cared so much about animals

00:08:10.520 and the health and wellness

00:08:12.000 of just animal species. 1.00

00:08:13.440 And then out of nowhere, he became a fucking scumbag, bro. 1.00

00:08:16.800 He started eating eggs nonstop, bro. 1.00

00:08:19.680 And now all I think about is all those fucking dead chickens. 0.99

00:08:23.100 It's actually the dude deer, right? 0.99

00:08:24.300 Hey, next time you think about talking, just don't.

00:08:27.580 Hey, man.

00:08:28.960 Hey, you were a vegan once and now you eat eggs?

00:08:31.000 I'm not here to judge you, you know?

00:08:33.100 Respect.

00:08:33.640 Healthy diet.

00:08:34.260 Healthy life, too, huh?

00:08:35.880 Plant-based brotherhood.

00:08:37.160 You working out?

00:08:37.900 Oh, yeah.

00:08:38.680 Here we go.

00:08:39.500 Yo, I meant to ask you this.

00:08:42.040 That was disgusting.

00:08:43.040 yeah that was weird i had some juice i meant to ask you this bro because i i wasn't sure if i was

00:08:48.580 gonna put it in the intro or not yeah if i would have said something about neds declassified say

00:08:53.700 it i rep it it's all good for real yeah is that what it well because like some some some uh it

00:08:58.540 was nickelodeon right yeah yeah some nickelodeon stars would try to like stay away from it but how

00:09:03.020 often is that like a thing in your life dude it's still the biggest thing that people know me from

00:09:07.440 It's where the majority of my fans at least started from.

00:09:12.900 So to try and distance myself from it just doesn't make sense.

00:09:18.260 It's a part of my life.

00:09:19.620 You've embraced it.

00:09:20.600 Yeah, it was three of the most fun years of my life

00:09:24.200 and set me up for half of the adventures and fun I've been on.

00:09:29.120 So people calling me Ned, like, yeah, sure.

00:09:31.700 I'd love for you to know me for more than that.

00:09:35.320 but like if that's the way you know me from cool that's cool it was also the biggest part of my

00:09:39.500 life look at that little nugget dude that's a 12 year old me right there this was an awesome show

00:09:46.160 man it was great it was great our show had like a genuine heart of wanting to help people like

00:09:52.140 really amongst all the comedy and like zaniness which was so fun to shoot yeah it genuinely had

00:09:58.500 this message of like wanting to connect with the audience and say hey you're not alone it's gonna

00:10:02.540 to be all right we're gonna get through this together and i think that's what's carried and

00:10:06.200 it's what i've noticed as i've gotten older with the fans like there's a genuine kind of love and

00:10:10.660 respect for the show that's dope that's really dope why would so i don't just i'm like yeah dude

00:10:15.000 that's awesome like is that common for for uh nickelodeon shows or is that something that you

00:10:21.460 were a part of introducing it was something that the creator of ned scott fellow is like

00:10:26.720 is all of his show like he just has this thing about him where yeah i was gonna say because

00:10:32.040 most shows they don't really maybe consider that all the time no no they just want to make you

00:10:36.580 laugh and yeah whatever make you watch it that's cool so you want i mean i know i did i walked away

00:10:40.260 with a bunch of valuable episodes um yeah that's the idea and then in the last couple years it's

00:10:44.300 been cool man because i've been going to colleges and giving talks um yeah i i realized a couple

00:10:51.440 years ago i'm like all right these kids still put me in this position of like give me advice and

00:10:56.660 they're like and they're like half kidding but they're not they're like there's all these tweets

00:11:01.300 every day of like can ned make a new survival guide i don't know what i'm doing anymore also

00:11:04.920 but who does like who doesn't need advice who's gonna be like no please i don't need your advice

00:11:09.060 no exactly so they they still like if they still want to see me as ned and like ask me for things

00:11:16.860 advice for their life i've kind of like embraced it and now i go to colleges and like talk to them

00:11:22.060 about what i've been learning congrats you still talk to cookie uh that's my homie that's daniel

00:11:26.660 no way yeah he lives down in long beach where you guys were making me wait an hour and a half

00:11:30.260 You remember that?

00:11:31.220 Well, it's mainly his fault because he lives there and we were doing a thing.

00:11:33.940 Yeah, I got it.

00:11:34.920 And then what about the girl?

00:11:35.900 What's her name? 0.97

00:11:36.380 That's Lindsay. 1.00

00:11:37.380 Moe's on the show. 0.99

00:11:38.580 Lindsay. 0.93

00:11:39.000 Yeah, Lindsay.

00:11:39.740 Lindsay and I talk every now and then.

00:11:42.500 Yeah, Daniel just graduated Cal State Long Beach.

00:11:44.600 He just got his degree in linguistics.

00:11:47.640 That's where we're hosting this event that we were shooting for.

00:11:50.060 Nice.

00:11:50.380 Incredible.

00:11:50.960 Okay.

00:11:51.680 Anybody go crazy?

00:11:52.960 Congratulations, Daniel.

00:11:53.500 From the squad?

00:11:54.960 What's that? 0.69

00:11:55.560 Go crazy. 1.00

00:11:55.780 Yeah, I was going to say, who's doing drugs now and who's pregnant? 0.99

00:11:59.080 Or both. 1.00

00:11:59.980 Susie, Susie Crabgrass had a kid.

00:12:02.120 I mean, she's, she's great.

00:12:03.340 She's on, she's on The Walking Dead,

00:12:05.280 but she has a kid now, 0.99

00:12:06.120 but she, she didn't get like, 0.82

00:12:07.440 she's like an adult.

00:12:08.520 She's like, yeah, she's like 30.

00:12:10.220 But surely someone ruined everything.

00:12:12.240 Like I used separated crab and grass.

00:12:14.140 Yeah, she's on, she's Rosita on The Walking Dead.

00:12:16.340 Oh, oh dang. 0.99

00:12:17.700 She got a little baby now.

00:12:18.820 I haven't seen her in years. 0.99

00:12:19.960 She got a little baby?

00:12:21.280 Brand new baby? 1.00

00:12:22.180 There's her killing zombies. 1.00

00:12:23.720 Ready to kill zombies, dude. 1.00

00:12:25.000 Dude, that's fire. 1.00

00:12:26.200 Yeah.

00:12:26.640 Would you, if a zombie apocalypse happened,

00:12:29.400 You, Devin Workheiser.

00:12:30.340 Would I be all right?

00:12:31.560 Like mentally.

00:12:33.000 Not necessarily like would you be alive or dead.

00:12:35.360 Would you be all right mentally?

00:12:36.940 What's the attitude?

00:12:37.760 What's your sentiment?

00:12:38.520 I'd be all right.

00:12:39.140 Yeah?

00:12:39.400 What would you do?

00:12:39.840 I'm a survivor, man.

00:12:41.040 No, I got a plan.

00:12:42.460 I'll just wing it.

00:12:43.260 You're just going to wing it?

00:12:43.820 I'm just going to wing it.

00:12:44.540 All right.

00:12:46.320 I'm coming to your castle here, dude.

00:12:48.500 No, it's true.

00:12:49.060 Yeah, and you did good.

00:12:49.780 We got spikes in the driveway.

00:12:51.420 You made it past those somehow.

00:12:52.760 Exactly, dude.

00:12:53.380 I'm coming to this.

00:12:54.380 Baby trap house.

00:12:55.360 I ask because I've always felt like my whole life I've been bred for a zombie apocalypse.

00:12:59.140 yeah my dad has i'm not quite like the weird bunker people but but close yeah your bunker

00:13:06.020 adjacent yeah like you know you know those people who have like a hundred thousand dollars worth of

00:13:11.840 food in a bunker i do it's in it's an insane way to live to me but maybe they know something we

00:13:15.800 don't they make that's what they do they make even crazier ones for like ultra rich people that are

00:13:20.620 like super luxury um like bunkers yeah like hot tubs yeah elevators because like in the apocalypse

00:13:28.080 you want to be comfortable. Of course, bro.

00:13:30.160 Imagine this, bro. Everyone you know

00:13:32.140 is dead. Things are already bad

00:13:34.100 enough. You're running low on food. And now

00:13:36.160 you have to take the fucking stairs because you're 1.00

00:13:38.080 on the elevator in your bunker. Like, what are you, some sort 1.00

00:13:40.140 of fucking loser? I ain't about that life at all. 1.00

00:13:41.840 You have to shower. You can't soak in your hot tub.

00:13:44.260 That's what I'm saying. I'm going to be in some

00:13:45.940 dystopian society. I want there to be cleaners

00:13:48.220 and shit. It's whack and quite honestly disgusting. 1.00

00:13:50.100 That's what I'm saying. Okay, so 0.64

00:13:51.760 everyone seems to be doing good for me.

00:13:53.680 Yeah. No, no one

00:13:55.520 no one went crazy

00:13:56.440 is that a Nickelodeon

00:13:57.900 thing though

00:13:58.500 Disney stars go nuts

00:13:59.460 the kids just come off

00:13:59.860 successful and always

00:14:00.720 just got a good head

00:14:01.440 on their shoulders

00:14:01.980 no

00:14:02.540 who went crazy

00:14:04.820 on Nickelodeon

00:14:06.040 no everyone's pretty good

00:14:07.540 Josh Drake

00:14:08.600 like

00:14:09.100 Miranda

00:14:10.060 Victoria

00:14:10.640 everyone's

00:14:11.500 Emma Roberts

00:14:12.580 what happened to Alex Mack

00:14:14.480 remember the show

00:14:15.480 yeah that was like

00:14:16.340 pre my generation

00:14:17.340 so I don't know

00:14:18.160 so I'm pre your generation 1.00

00:14:19.220 okay 1.00

00:14:19.720 I'm a fucking 1.00

00:14:20.640 you're an old guy 1.00

00:14:21.320 I'm a fossil dude

00:14:22.380 okay

00:14:22.780 and so I feel

00:14:24.140 kind of like

00:14:24.860 alex mac was like the ned she was able to turn into puddles dude she was able to turn into capri

00:14:30.960 sun and slide under doors shout out you definitely don't know like i watched it yeah i know wait so

00:14:38.520 this was right around the time when snick started was snick still around that was like keenan and

00:14:43.880 kel like we're like no that's all that that's all what i watched but not what my show was on

00:14:48.860 i got you and then like and then like there was a i even had a show called salute salute

00:14:54.420 Salute your shorts.

00:14:55.140 Oh, of course.

00:14:55.680 And camp on Awano.

00:14:57.100 Of course.

00:14:57.560 We hold you in our hearts.

00:14:58.680 Yeah.

00:14:58.980 Hey, dude. 1.00

00:14:59.640 All that shit, dude. 1.00

00:15:00.740 I grew up on so much Nickelodeon. 1.00

00:15:03.440 Are you afraid of the dark?

00:15:04.540 For sure.

00:15:05.080 Are you?

00:15:05.660 So when you got the show, I mean, this is crazy, man.

00:15:08.940 Yeah, it was life-changing.

00:15:10.060 And you didn't, did you come from an acting background?

00:15:12.420 Yeah, I mean, I came from Georgia.

00:15:13.780 Grew up in Georgia.

00:15:14.480 Started acting when I was like six or seven or something in community theater.

00:15:18.960 And came out to LA for pilot season and like my second pilot season,

00:15:22.620 my second time in LA to audition for shows, I booked Neds. So it was kind of fast. And,

00:15:28.520 and it was amazing. It also made me think that my whole life and career would go that way because

00:15:34.920 like Neds, like I booked a lead on a Nickelodeon show. We filmed for three years, had all this 0.99

00:15:41.200 success. It was amazing. I thought after that, I'm like, oh, it's nothing but up from here.

00:15:46.040 Leonardo DiCaprio and me are going to be hanging soon.

00:15:48.860 Oh no.

00:15:49.380 Then what happened?

00:15:49.840 It's not the case, man.

00:15:50.920 Why? Why not?

00:15:51.720 exactly why you don't know i don't know man like not even an inkling of of like just being given

00:15:57.800 movies no no um but you're good you're good and and and by the way i was uh wary about this when

00:16:06.200 we went into our movie together yeah um where's the money i was like i was interested to see

00:16:11.220 because some some people just aren't good at acting anymore they like grow out of it for sure

00:16:15.340 but you still were very good yeah no and i mean that i'm not just saying that no i know i'm good 0.97

00:16:19.860 i don't even need you to tell me i work at this i love this shit so what what what's the deal 0.75

00:16:25.380 well kind of not having the success after neds that i wanted um kind of forced me to uh 0.96

00:16:33.500 forced me to try and see if i loved like the work of it the craft so i got into acting class and

00:16:41.140 just started working my ass off because i realized oh i'm not gonna be handed this like i want to be

00:16:46.680 I need to be good.

00:16:48.900 Yeah, so I got in a bunch of classes

00:16:50.660 and just like worked my ass off for a long time

00:16:52.880 and fell in love with what it is to act

00:16:57.280 without having all the success,

00:16:59.560 which I think a lot of kid actors kind of fall off on.

00:17:03.920 And that's why a lot don't continue.

00:17:05.800 I get why so many kid actors don't transition into adulthood

00:17:08.600 because that transition is long and painful.

00:17:12.420 There's so much not getting the attention

00:17:15.280 that you got as a kid,

00:17:16.440 which feels weird and you happen to like grow up and take time for people to see you as an adult

00:17:21.580 and not a kid like there's a lot of uncomfortability in that transition and a lot of people i get they

00:17:27.320 just like tap out of the acting industry yeah that's really cool but i've stuck with it because

00:17:32.280 i love it and there's other things that i do which help have you always loved it yeah i really have

00:17:37.940 yeah i love it what do you like about acting because i think like especially coming from

00:17:41.780 Ohio and not really being in the industry and then like kind of sort of getting into it I

00:17:45.500 the whole acting thing is definitely something that is really hard to wrap your mind around for

00:17:51.460 the average person of where you're like literally pretending to be another person but if you're

00:17:55.600 acting right you're not pretending you literally are another person yeah um I love a few things

00:18:02.380 that I can like speak on one of the things but this is I feel like any craft uh for me to train

00:18:08.660 to become a better actor it gives me insight into being a better like human into a better me there's

00:18:14.880 like this weird symbiotic relationship where there's lessons i learned to be more real and

00:18:19.680 more honest acting wise that actually helped me in my life be more authentic and kind of vice versa

00:18:24.540 and i think that's any artistic craft it should bleed into who you are and into your life so i

00:18:30.500 love that dynamic uh the other thing is being on sets is one of the most fun environments in the

00:18:36.020 world um yeah it's a hundred people 50 people a thousand people collaborating to tell this one

00:18:43.260 made up playful even if it's dramatic it's play it's this it's all these people collaborating

00:18:49.300 on this story people who are different masters of their craft working together to fill out this

00:18:54.720 puzzle that makes like one cohesive story that makes people feel things it's it's a magical

00:18:59.480 environment i absolutely love being on sets what about hurry up and wait there's a lot of that a

00:19:05.000 lot of that there's a lot of that logan yeah but it's not even in the podcast world no in hollywood

00:19:10.940 hurry up and wait that bugs me no there's tons of that even on set they're like hey you're here

00:19:16.380 at 10 a.m oh sorry we're not gonna get to you till 4 30 enjoy waiting which is kind of a

00:19:21.300 obnoxious uh experience just like sitting yeah waiting but that's just that's just part of it

00:19:25.780 you learn how to like i don't know bring books and entertain yourself and like be patient um

00:19:31.560 yeah craft services eat free food a lot of never a bad thing talk to cool people

00:19:36.660 yeah um it was weird being the older i get the weirder it is when i see kid actors now

00:19:45.140 even though i was that kid actors are the weirdest people man why is that because they're not real

00:19:54.380 what do you mean what does that mean they're 12 year olds who can talk to adults like fully who

00:20:00.260 are talking to adults all day long it's not what normal kids go through so the older i get even the

00:20:05.840 cool kid actors i meet i'm like this it you're like a weird form of a kid i do know what you

00:20:12.020 mean you know what i mean you ever talk to these kids who talk to you they're like 35 yes yes but

00:20:16.980 you're like you have no life experience to be talking to me like this go away do you ever it's

00:20:22.800 why go away though like you're scared no i'm just like threaten your future no i'm just like go go

00:20:28.920 don't talk to me kid it's just like kids are weird in general like yes it's not even just

00:20:34.320 kid actors but like we we found out recently that like babies are kind of strange they're just so

00:20:39.640 sure because listen like here's the thing like here we all we're all sitting here on the set

00:20:43.740 all of our heads are approximately similar sizes right then you've got these small humanoids that

00:20:49.400 have not yet developed into full body exos or endoskeletons no they're little goobers they're

00:20:55.020 They're just little goobers, bro.

00:20:56.440 A little dusty little runts. 0.97

00:20:58.660 Dusty runts.

00:20:59.500 Dusty runts, huh?

00:21:00.520 Just walking around, not really on...

00:21:02.200 But sometimes not even walking.

00:21:03.780 They don't even know how to do something as simple as walk.

00:21:05.960 Those are the weirdest ones.

00:21:06.860 Just crawling around everywhere.

00:21:07.820 My baby nephew has to use a little bar to move around the crib, bro,

00:21:12.760 because he can't even stand up.

00:21:13.620 Like, Jill, I love you as my sister and all, but what did you do?

00:21:16.980 Like, the kid can't even walk.

00:21:18.080 It's like, he's drunk 24-7.

00:21:19.800 He's like almost a year old now.

00:21:21.400 That's how we come out, man.

00:21:22.840 We come out just not knowing anything.

00:21:25.520 Not me, man.

00:21:25.960 And we got it.

00:21:26.720 No, not me, man.

00:21:27.880 You came out flexing, dude?

00:21:29.220 Oh, I came out.

00:21:30.320 You came out squatting and flexing, dude?

00:21:31.720 I was like, I'm going to be a vlogger.

00:21:33.100 I'm going to get got.

00:21:34.100 And it seems like the kid actors you're talking about,

00:21:36.260 they didn't come out empty either.

00:21:38.360 Like, I know exactly what you're talking about

00:21:40.840 because they're just like, I'm like, why do you like acting?

00:21:44.460 Why do you like what you're doing?

00:21:45.280 They're like, well, it really gives me the opportunity

00:21:48.680 to open up and be who I am and be aligned with my true self.

00:21:52.560 I'm like, you're four, you're four, you shouldn't be saying that to me right now, you should be playing with blocks

00:21:58.460 No, exactly, but they don't even know, they just heard that and have adopted it

00:22:03.120 They don't even know what they're saying

00:22:04.480 I realized even me as a kid, I'm like looking back at me, I'm like, I thought I knew what I was talking about

00:22:11.700 I was being authentic for the time, but like, I didn't know anything

00:22:15.400 That's why so many kids go crazy, because they're just being fed some life

00:22:18.360 No, but why is it only the Disney kids, including my brother?

00:22:21.340 but he didn't go crazy no they the disney kids go crazier because they get he might be going

00:22:27.460 i sat on it for a second no your brother's crazy but um they they go more crazy because the disney

00:22:33.000 kids get more famous because their machine is more it's better the disney machine is better at

00:22:38.140 making fame at making really and why is it they're just better at it i don't know nickelodeon's like

00:22:44.720 marketing marketing wise they probably have more money like it's just probably just a better engine

00:22:48.260 I gotta take a second

00:22:49.200 I love Jake Paul

00:22:50.740 I love Jake Paul

00:22:51.660 Shout out Jake Paul

00:22:52.400 Hey man

00:22:52.780 Like literally

00:22:53.260 One of my favorite people

00:22:54.000 I'm a Jake Pauler

00:22:54.960 Like if people ask me

00:22:56.340 Like do I want to watch

00:22:57.140 Logan's content or Jake

00:22:57.980 I watch Jake's content

00:22:58.880 Do you hear that?

00:23:00.720 Yeah yeah

00:23:01.280 I think he's being facetious

00:23:02.700 No I'm not

00:23:03.540 Especially because 0.99

00:23:04.120 You just talked shit about him 1.00

00:23:05.360 Fuck I was trying to fix that 1.00

00:23:06.580 Shut up 1.00

00:23:07.120 You were trying to cover that up 1.00

00:23:08.940 I saw it on Twitter

00:23:09.920 I got taken a little

00:23:11.060 Out of context

00:23:11.640 I don't know

00:23:12.240 I love Jake Paul

00:23:13.140 I love you

00:23:13.800 Are you trying to kiss 1.00

00:23:14.600 Some Jake Paul ass right now? 1.00

00:23:15.580 A little bit 1.00

00:23:15.860 You're a fucking brown nose ass 1.00

00:23:17.180 Trying to dig myself 1.00

00:23:18.000 out of this jake pauler hole i got 12 year olds coming at me left and right nah but uh fuck them 1.00

00:23:22.660 dude they're 12 so fuck them kids hey so when you do you do you do legitimate acting sure you do 1.00

00:23:30.320 you're a real life actor i act and i know it sounds facetious but like uh when we did a movie 0.99

00:23:36.620 with with batch and here here here's king batch this internet star me like an internet star yeah

00:23:41.980 is there and be honest with me is there some sort of wall that you've put up or uh are you jaded

00:23:47.320 about that uh synergy uh i i'm pretty open yeah so for like people who don't know yeah we filmed

00:23:53.400 this movie where's the money like three years ago and um it got made because of who you guys

00:23:58.820 are and were like the whole reason that movie was happening was because the producers were like

00:24:03.780 i want to give batch a movie yeah um so i'm not mad about that dude the whole reason i'm on that

00:24:09.100 set is because the producers want to give batch a vehicle and you a vehicle like awesome cool i got

00:24:14.600 a job because of you guys um i was just i was just i was just open and neutrally curious as to like

00:24:21.240 you guys are this new wave of of uh creators and like famous kids and like you're in a different

00:24:30.860 medium than i grew up in and so i was just curious of like what your work ethic would be on set what

00:24:37.860 the vibe would be if you guys were going to be douchebags or not like were we no oh cool no dude

00:24:43.360 we had a great time i remember that yeah you guys you guys both like work your asses off i was so 0.85

00:24:48.400 impressed by both of you in terms of we'd shoot you know long long days we shot this movie super

00:24:54.700 fast um actually fastest movie i've ever shot 15 days it's insane that's way too fast oh my god i

00:24:59.860 forgot um yeah and then you guys would film all day and then make your like vlogs at night like

00:25:05.480 batch would be up till like 5 a.m every morning making his vlogs the work ethic it made me go

00:25:10.820 oh like it's no it's no wonder it's no secret you guys had the numbers that you have like

00:25:17.400 oh you guys are hustling this like a full-time job and it also made me go because some part of

00:25:23.300 me was always like do i need to be doing that and then i watch you guys doing it and i was like

00:25:26.480 no that's not for me really yeah i don't want to hustle vlogs like that i feel i feel that i was

00:25:31.560 like oh that's what it takes to really grow that world gotcha i don't want to work by the way quick

00:25:37.100 quick secret yeah some of the people that hustle vlogs like that they don't want to hustle vlogs

00:25:41.580 like that right like they don't there's a lot of people that are like dude i have to make these

00:25:45.840 daily vlogs otherwise i'm gonna lose subs i'm gonna lose money yeah in many ways it is sort

00:25:49.240 of like a cheat code for success if you know how to do it and do it right and a lot of people will

00:25:53.200 it's the same thing for any success in any field like we all think it's this secret of like genetics

00:26:00.100 and talent and like god-given something but like yes sure that but also work ethic if you work the

00:26:07.300 hardest and the most rhythmically at like just do it and love that then you're gonna grow and that

00:26:14.220 that's what was cool it broke down any like seeing you guys on set honestly broke down any notion that

00:26:19.200 i had that like the kids who are growing this aren't working their asses off and aren't smart

00:26:23.560 like you guys were hustling while shooting a movie we thank you yeah we had a conversation about

00:26:29.460 about work on this podcast yesterday and some kids that were watching the show or some people

00:26:34.080 thought we were making it seem like uh that that average jobs weren't okay oh yeah like working a

00:26:41.140 nine-to-five wasn't okay do we do we do that on this show yeah like do you feel like we do that

00:26:46.920 at all i i no i i don't want to say what's okay what's not okay i just like i would urge every

00:26:53.620 viewer and listener to make sure they're doing what they want to be doing exactly and also if

00:26:58.040 you're not by the way after your nine to five ends go home and do what you want to do like you 0.86

00:27:01.620 just said after we shot 12 14 hours a day we'd go home and we'd fucking vlog yeah and sleep four 0.91

00:27:06.560 hours not always the healthiest but like we got our shit done yeah remember we remember we'd order 0.95

00:27:11.800 a frozen yogurt i'll never forget because after two weeks of logan ordering frozen yogurt for 0.97

00:27:17.000 everyone postmating it uh uh like every day on set um afterwards he was like oh shit like my bill 0.98

00:27:24.660 I was like $500. 0.95

00:27:26.540 I spent $2,000 on Froyo for everyone posting it at 4 a.m.

00:27:30.620 Because you kept ordering it at weird hours where they'd like charge extra.

00:27:33.520 Hella extra.

00:27:34.600 I was on a binge, dude.

00:27:37.100 It was so ridiculous, but I was getting free Froyo.

00:27:39.780 He still spends hella money on. 0.69

00:27:42.380 Yeah, well, you have that income source.

00:27:45.180 Well, we used to.

00:27:46.060 Google, please take me back.

00:27:48.120 Somebody made a joke.

00:27:49.760 Someone made a joke on my new show

00:27:52.600 And said there's a chance I might get on Google Preferred

00:27:55.020 Before you get back up

00:27:56.060 I'm going to be honest

00:27:57.540 There's absolutely zero chance 1.00

00:27:59.540 You degenerate father time motherfucker 1.00

00:28:02.720 Let's see what happens 1.00

00:28:03.840 Never say never

00:28:05.880 What's the bet?

00:28:08.180 I'll make the same bet that Jake Paul made

00:28:09.960 $300,000

00:28:10.720 What are you going to say?

00:28:13.080 So just in the last two years

00:28:16.920 I grew up acting 0.55

00:28:18.280 and always had money from Neds,

00:28:20.080 even though like not as much as people at home think. 0.99

00:28:22.720 You guys are foolish at what you think I have. 0.94

00:28:25.520 But a couple of years ago, like just, 0.99

00:28:28.000 so my life always went like I'd work a lot.

00:28:32.360 And this is a common actor life is like, I'd work a lot.

00:28:34.880 My savings will go up.

00:28:35.960 I'd live on it.

00:28:36.940 And then I'd book something and it'd go back up.

00:28:38.700 And it always went like that since I was 12 years old.

00:28:41.960 And then in my mid twenties,

00:28:45.720 just it started to get closer and down to the bottom.

00:28:48.280 And I was like, something's coming. 0.99

00:28:51.900 Holy shit. 0.99

00:28:53.040 I'm out of money. 0.99

00:28:54.320 I'm out.

00:28:54.980 I need a job yesterday.

00:28:56.680 So like two years ago, I got my first day jobs and been working my first job.

00:29:01.740 No way.

00:29:01.860 Yeah.

00:29:02.380 What type of jobs?

00:29:03.620 My first job was front desk at Equinox in West Hollywood, the super nice gym.

00:29:07.880 That's crazy.

00:29:08.440 Which Dylan works out at, and I'm pretty sure I saw him there.

00:29:11.440 Oh, you probably did.

00:29:12.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:13.060 Yeah, so front desk at Equinox was my first job.

00:29:15.500 And now my only other day job and the one I'm still at is my friend's company late Sunday afternoon.

00:29:22.640 We have a shop in Venice, California, and it's like a magical retail shop.

00:29:25.980 I want to say the reason I say that's crazy is not because it's like a day job or a typical job.

00:29:30.020 It's because, like, you're the first person I've talked to face-to-face where I've seen this,

00:29:34.760 and I would love to pick your brain about it because I know there was a thing with,

00:29:37.420 I think it was either Cole or Dylan Sprouse, where someone saw him working at, I think, a Starbucks.

00:29:44.100 and like it took a picture of him and it went viral and everyone was surprised that cole or

00:29:49.100 dylan sprouse yeah we'll be working at yeah yeah so what's the what's that is there a mental hump

00:29:55.700 you have to get for sure what's what's that like um so so i'm so glad first of all i'm so glad i

00:30:03.020 ran out of money i'm so glad i didn't get the success i wanted to get when i wanted it um

00:30:09.680 because work dude i'm so glad i had to go work a regular job if i didn't have this time in my life

00:30:17.260 i just wouldn't know as much i wouldn't understand myself or the world as much like i'm so happy i've

00:30:25.340 had to get these regular jobs that being said there was definitely a mental hump of like just

00:30:30.900 fear of like what does it mean for my future what does it mean for my past success what does it mean

00:30:36.880 for the ego that I am of like what if someone recognizes me in the shop when I'm working and

00:30:43.000 it happened and it's fine like yeah I'm working a job because I gotta pay bills because I live in 0.99

00:30:47.900 a city like you know what I mean I gotta pay my rent and I'm out of money yeah fuck the weirdest 0.82

00:30:54.220 ones are when I see like now I'm pretty grounded it's two years later um the weirdest ones were 0.95

00:31:00.080 when I would see like actors who I know so there was one there was one time at Equinox Terry Cruz

00:31:06.200 who's in where's the money who i've known for years that's right who's like the nicest human

00:31:11.900 he wouldn't have he wouldn't have judged me in any way for working my front desk job at equinox

00:31:16.780 i didn't say hi to him when he walked by like i i had this moment of like oh that's terry like

00:31:23.260 i want to nope and i just like did my job and i didn't say hi it was like this moment of fear

00:31:28.880 and kind of like internal failure of hey there we all are there we are

00:31:34.780 What's up, crew? 1.00

00:31:36.820 Look at your fucking mustache. 1.00

00:31:38.260 My mustache. 1.00

00:31:39.440 It's more ham and cheese. 0.92

00:31:40.620 Dude, you are a ham, dude. 0.99

00:31:43.420 That's horrifying. 0.99

00:31:44.820 I was drunk.

00:31:45.480 I remember this.

00:31:46.100 I was hammered.

00:31:46.720 Yeah, you were a mess, dude.

00:31:47.900 We took the cool...

00:31:48.400 You showed up super late.

00:31:49.400 The cool bus.

00:31:50.060 Did I?

00:31:50.280 I did.

00:31:51.120 Yeah, you did.

00:31:51.840 I'm always late.

00:31:53.100 Yeah, dude.

00:31:54.180 We took the cool bus,

00:31:55.660 and I hopped off hammered with the mustache,

00:31:57.240 and I was like, yeah,

00:31:58.580 and we got in the pick,

00:31:59.320 but you didn't say hi to Terry.

00:32:01.020 No, I didn't say hi.

00:32:02.140 Not at Equinox, man.

00:32:03.200 I had this thing.

00:32:04.780 And then in my shop one time, my friend Alexander Ludwig, who's an actor, I've known him for

00:32:12.620 years since auditions and stuff.

00:32:14.200 And he came into my shop in Venice and no one else was in it.

00:32:18.080 It was him and his girlfriend and I'm the only one working there.

00:32:20.800 So I had this moment of fear of like wanting to avoid saying hi to him because like he's

00:32:25.460 coming off his History Channel show and here I am working my job. 0.85

00:32:29.740 There was that like weird, I don't know what that, it's bullshit because I honestly

00:32:34.580 love where i work and i love that it gives me the stability of my income right now like i love it

00:32:39.420 and i love my bot like i genuinely love where i work um but i had this moment of like just like

00:32:44.060 weirdness of wanting to be cooler or seen as more successful interesting but because he was in there

00:32:51.500 with his girlfriend and i'm the only one in there i just had to go say hi and he's the alex is super

00:32:56.060 fucking nice just like terry so of course he wasn't judgment it wasn't weird it was just like

00:33:01.980 what's that man? Like, how are you? Welcome back from Iceland. I'm working here. Like it was all 0.97

00:33:06.740 good. Were you, were you still grinding, uh, for acting roles? Like while you were doing that,

00:33:12.540 like, I'm still working this job. I worked yesterday. I'm still, I'm hustling everything

00:33:17.360 and this job. Yeah. I guess, I guess I'm just curious, like, what does it feel like to go

00:33:22.440 back to a life where you have set work hours? Because a lot of the people that do work those

00:33:28.600 nine to fives there is a sense of like freedom and comfort that exists after 5 p.m yeah that you

00:33:35.260 lose when you live in la and you're grinding 24 hours or by the way when you live in new york city

00:33:39.220 and you're grinding 24 i remember when i was working corporate and i would get out at five

00:33:42.940 o'clock i would be like i don't really feel like looking at my phone till tomorrow right and i

00:33:47.000 would just go and go to the gym hang out with people or i would call my mom talk to her for

00:33:51.220 a couple hours there was nothing to do right and so like it's almost like what was it like to go

00:33:56.200 back to a place where yo if you wanted to you you knew your paycheck was coming you knew it was

00:34:00.140 going to happen whether you grind it harder or not because you were just going to get the same 0.97

00:34:02.840 check at work you go home at five o'clock you do whatever the fuck you want yeah i mean mine's 0.87

00:34:07.400 still not normal it's still not a nine to five like it's it's three to four days a week um and 0.98

00:34:14.040 there's so much shit i have to do after yeah some days i just go home and pass out and chill um but

00:34:19.000 uh there's still so much other stuff i'm hustling my music the acting just my life responsive all 1.00

00:34:25.200 Please take me out to dinner before you fuck me, buddy. 1.00

00:34:27.800 Jesus Christ, bro. 1.00

00:34:28.660 Fuck your phone, dude. 1.00

00:34:29.420 It's already got a crack on it. 1.00

00:34:30.400 It's already smashed the shit. 0.99

00:34:33.680 Sorry, I talk with my hands. 0.99

00:34:36.240 Yeah, so my schedule is still not normal.

00:34:39.020 When I first got the jobs, man, it was crazy.

00:34:41.880 So my life, like, your life fell apart in a different way.

00:34:45.200 My life fell apart, my life fell apart, like, three years ago in a pretty, like,

00:34:50.440 my parents started a divorce, like, three years ago.

00:34:54.340 that happened I ran out of money um so I was working two jobs and doing a play at the same

00:35:01.780 time this was like an eight month run where I was working two jobs for the first time I was out of

00:35:06.660 money I was so stressed my parents were getting divorced my family was falling apart and I was

00:35:10.200 doing this play and it was a really intense time in my life and then follow that up with like a

00:35:16.480 giant relationship coming to an end a girl I thought I would marry ended yeah I remember that

00:35:21.180 Like there's been so much breaking down in my life.

00:35:27.160 And if you just, I don't know, 0.99

00:35:29.840 if you just don't lose your shit during that time 1.00

00:35:34.020 or lose it a little bit, 0.99

00:35:35.040 but like find out what can it teach me?

00:35:37.600 What am I learning?

00:35:38.640 What do I do now?

00:35:39.720 How do I move forward now?

00:35:40.880 Like it's actually been an amazing time in my life.

00:35:43.020 I feel stronger than ever.

00:35:44.500 And like, I feel more me than ever,

00:35:46.460 but it came through like three years of a lot of breakdown.

00:35:50.180 Yeah. I've been saying what you just said verbatim for the past month. I feel more me than I ever have in my life. And I want to ask you, when you, I'm sure you had a moment during those tumultuous times when you felt like you were maybe not at rock bottom, but there is definitely a bottom of some sort.

00:36:08.160 For sure.

00:36:09.320 What do you tell yourself or what do you do to get out of that?

00:36:13.940 um it's a lot of different things coming together and kind of waves of

00:36:19.480 kind of starting to do better and then falling again um but

00:36:24.840 to me it's just got to start with like some base level belief that it's gonna change yeah and and

00:36:34.780 that i deserve a good life like there's some base foundation of like this feels horrible right now

00:36:43.380 and my whole identity is being rocked

00:36:45.300 and like my family's falling apart

00:36:47.120 and like it feels like the ground inside of me 0.99

00:36:50.600 is fucking crumbling. 0.98

00:36:53.300 So it's just kind of like grounding in like, 0.99

00:36:55.460 okay, it's going to be gnarly for a while,

00:36:57.400 but it's going to change.

00:36:58.860 And what can I do to support myself through this?

00:37:03.360 I mean, one of the things being working out,

00:37:05.220 honestly, I know you get that.

00:37:06.860 Like fitness is the first step to greatness, dude.

00:37:09.100 Fitness is the first step to greatness.

00:37:10.860 The word that you're looking for, I think is,

00:37:12.400 because I could resonate with this a lot.

00:37:14.000 The word you're looking for is hope.

00:37:15.480 Yeah.

00:37:16.640 Hope or trust.

00:37:18.960 Even just a little understanding that it'll be okay.

00:37:23.420 And sometimes it's so small.

00:37:25.120 I talk about this in my book.

00:37:27.020 I remember when it was so small,

00:37:29.500 there was almost nothing left of that sliver of hope.

00:37:33.380 But as long as you could keep that little ember burning

00:37:35.800 and it can keep pushing you through those really hard times.

00:37:38.720 And I also say a lot, if you can't, you know,

00:37:41.920 you see all of us running around all the time like people out there that are struggling you

00:37:45.020 see us running around running around running around and they're like oh man i wish i could

00:37:48.180 run or i wish i wish i could get a nine to five and walk right even if you can't do those things 0.99

00:37:53.020 and you just crawl yeah like just pull your fucking self gi joe style through the bullshit 0.99

00:37:58.480 and keep that piece of hope alive the reason i the reason i bring it up is because we lost a 1.00

00:38:03.580 youtuber in our community uh yesterday we're filming this now it happened yesterday to suicide

00:38:10.300 a guy named etica and uh clearly he had had enough you know and and that ember had gone out

00:38:19.800 you know and that thought that things could get better would get better stopped burning and um

00:38:26.160 yeah i mean that that kernel of hope is is so important i mean i don't i don't i don't i would

00:38:32.780 never know how to teach that to somebody except for just to say keep it burning yeah i don't know

00:38:37.320 I don't know how you teach it either without like you need it's so many different.

00:38:44.400 It comes from so many different areas.

00:38:45.960 Like my grounding was in my family before my parents got their divorce.

00:38:50.400 Like that was the place I would go to like reground when everything would feel insane.

00:38:55.000 And then that fell apart.

00:38:56.340 And then I went, wow, like, what do I have to ground myself in now?

00:38:59.800 So it's finding what those things are for you.

00:39:02.000 and um it's really sad and sucks when uh when people don't have it anymore and they choose to

00:39:08.700 go um yeah i've had a friend uh commit suicide like eight years ago and it's brutal it's brutal

00:39:16.400 to know that that happened it's brutal to know that they were in that place and all you want

00:39:20.480 to do is be like how how could i how could i help like i should why why didn't i call more why didn't

00:39:25.920 but like the truth is like there's something in them you know yeah yeah sorry to hear that man

00:39:32.260 yeah what were you gonna say the thing that uh that you said that's just so important is like

00:39:36.240 even for you i'm sure once your parents split you probably still had contact with with you didn't

00:39:41.960 have the solid unit that you had hoped to have but yeah i still have them the the biggest thing

00:39:47.980 when i look back at tough times of mine and other people have made it out of of those struggles

00:39:52.340 yeah some sort of network is always sure support system man and so whenever i see someone like

00:39:58.220 etica it just it it makes me think that he just didn't have that yeah like i can't imagine looking

00:40:03.940 back at my life and thinking yo what if i didn't have yeah the family and friends that got me

00:40:08.900 through it when i ran out of money like i saw how close like how easy it is for you to drop the ball

00:40:18.680 long life. And if I didn't have a support system, like I saw the edge of like, I'm out of money.

00:40:24.700 Like if I didn't have my mom to call on for a little bit of help, my family, like I saw the

00:40:30.760 edge of like, whoa, this goes really South really quickly. Like mismanaging my money for just this

00:40:37.440 little chunk of time where some bills came in that I wasn't expecting, wiped it all out. Like,

00:40:42.280 whoa, if I don't have a support system right now, I don't have my apartment. I'm on someone's couch.

00:40:47.340 Like it starts to fall really quickly without a support system when you're like at that at that dire survival time.

00:40:55.700 So, yeah, it was kind of is kind of wild to see.

00:40:58.960 And I'm glad that I have the support system.

00:41:00.540 The other most important thing, too, I think, is not blaming and taking as much accountability and responsibility as you can.

00:41:11.340 it's crazy we've been we've been going at this mental health conversation with people that we

00:41:15.860 we truly love in this house over the past couple weeks and you're hitting exact tenants of the

00:41:22.080 conversation that we've been having and even on on the podcast recently michael jay white said the

00:41:26.320 same thing he said oh you you weren't here for that right yeah he said the same exact responsibility

00:41:30.100 nothing nothing changed for me either until i started to take he said he said nothing will

00:41:35.460 change until you go what can i do now it's not blame it's not blaming yourself and saying i'm 0.94

00:41:42.280 shit i caused all this bad stuff to happen it's it's not fault it's responsibility to get it going 0.86

00:41:49.080 yeah it's like well here i am and i somehow created this situation like i'm a part of this 0.99

00:41:56.200 i made this happen what can i take accountability for and do moving forward that like helps me get

00:42:03.240 off this and i'm curious to hear from you guys in etica's situation like he posts this video

00:42:09.200 and he is blaming himself so i know it i think when we when things like this happen i think

00:42:16.660 it's a time for us to reflect and like really ask ourselves like are we doing enough like do you

00:42:22.480 think that situation is preventable i know it's a really tough conversation i don't know if we

00:42:27.840 want to go there but i think there's always more to be done but i don't think suicide is ever

00:42:34.780 fully preventable it's an option as a way out like this life is hard for everyone like and it is

00:42:43.380 it's an option available to us it's a gnarly one it doesn't it's it's something that also doesn't

00:42:49.700 get talked about a lot um but i don't think it's ever fully preventable because you have the you

00:42:57.300 Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin Hines, Kevin Hines will say yes. Our friend, Kevin Hines. Yeah. Yeah.

00:43:02.800 Yeah. So, so he'll, he'll say yes. And it's a really good question, Spencer. I, I, um,

00:43:08.520 what actually, instead of me speaking on or even Mike, I love, I love to know what the audience

00:43:12.620 thinks. So if you guys are listening, please, please comment below because this is something

00:43:15.320 where it's, I'm not sure there is like an answer. No, there is no, it's, it's a conversation that

00:43:20.740 has to be had as like a society and as people, because the option is available. Uh, I think

00:43:26.060 what could help is it blows my mind we get taught we get taught math we get taught some weird form 0.90

00:43:32.560 of history we get taught all this bullshit in school we don't get taught emotional intelligence

00:43:38.140 yeah seems weird to me because i'm gonna need to know how to identify and like um 0.99

00:43:45.960 live with my emotions in a healthy responsible way more than i'll ever need to know the fucking

00:43:53.180 treaty of 19 whatever that i don't remember formula and well yeah to that point i visited 0.53

00:43:59.940 finland and they have the best education system in the world and they have the happiest people

00:44:05.000 in the world so it's super interesting how what you're saying is 100 true like we live in this

00:44:10.840 system especially in america that is so focused on you need to memorize this you need to know this

00:44:17.440 and did you guys have it where when you were in like elementary school you had teachers saying

00:44:22.060 you're not going to be ready for middle school and then you have those teachers in middle school

00:44:24.840 you're not going to be ready for high school and then it's like this constant rat race that we get

00:44:29.200 pushed into yeah and then you live your life perpetually feeling like i'm not ready for the

00:44:32.800 next step that's all right i saw this horrible mindset that we promote in this country i saw 0.99

00:44:38.480 this meme it's going viral right now me how do i do my tax in public school shut the fuck up 0.97

00:44:43.180 and square dance solid so solid bro when i was 18 when i was 18 and i got my first two thousand 0.97

00:44:50.540 brand deal on vine i was like sick two thousand dollars no i was 19 i was in college my first

00:44:55.140 year i was like two thousand dollars i've never made that much money in my life i never have to

00:44:58.220 work again my mom calls she goes all right so you know you have to file taxes on that and i was go

00:45:03.900 i'll go what do you mean uh like taxes i have to give someone she goes we have to give like 30 to

00:45:09.480 50 away depending on how much you make and i'm like i go mom i don't think you understand i just

00:45:14.620 made two thousand dollars she's like like i'm balling and it's my and it's my money that i just

00:45:19.060 made myself government didn't do this video for me like i had an hour conversation with her and

00:45:24.760 she was describing to me how you have to give the money that you just made to the government 0.96

00:45:30.240 i didn't know what fucking taxes were bro and maybe i was a dumb kid but also i wasn't no but 0.96

00:45:34.540 they could teach us that in high school and they don't teach me about taxes and then teach me how 0.99

00:45:38.340 to do taxes yeah odd but no i could i could fucking square dance with you right now and you 0.91

00:45:43.740 knew all about you knew all about obtuse angles all about it and you're like yeah of course 0.98

00:45:48.360 equilateral triangles like all of them but yeah yeah schools need to get their shit to get emotional 0.95

00:45:55.300 intelligence classes would be yeah like teaching i think that can go a long way to preventing 0.76

00:46:00.420 people from getting to this place where they don't feel like they have a way out teach people how to

00:46:05.600 like meditate and take a pause in their emotions or like just teach them that like how to make the

00:46:13.300 distinction between it's my fault and i am responsible yeah there's a difference there

00:46:18.160 do you think do you think this is like uh like kind of fluffy la talk or i don't because i can

00:46:24.640 imagine if someone sat me down when i was young and they're like we're gonna talk about your

00:46:28.280 emotions and i went home and told my dad about this class i don't know what his reaction would

00:46:32.160 be i'm just not sure no there's a whole part of that's great yeah there's a whole slew of people

00:46:36.040 who wouldn't understand it but uh if you just bring it up generally like that like hey we're

00:46:40.020 going to talk about your emotions but but it'd be so easy to connect to a high school class hey 0.78

00:46:44.520 how many people feel like they're fucking worthless sometimes you know like you bring it up in that 0.61

00:46:49.000 how many people sometimes have emotions that they can't describe but they're being like overwhelmed 0.96

00:46:54.400 by you know what i mean like you ask your way in and of course it's universal we're all experiencing

00:47:00.500 this um so kids are open to that too kids are the the thing is if you can supercharge a kid to be

00:47:08.640 emotionally intelligent they're gonna take it home and actually like affect the family the family's

00:47:14.540 gonna have to respond to it but what's happening is like you're so influenced by your parents and

00:47:20.640 then there's no support system at edgy at the school system like the schools are like oh that's

00:47:24.700 for the parents yeah so nobody's owning it everybody's passing it on to the other exactly

00:47:29.380 no that's for the church no that's for the school right i think another big thing on the mental

00:47:34.400 health um is is this media that we live in um it does i mean it promotes anxiety and it promotes

00:47:46.160 like feedback that might not actually be landing so you have a ton of views you have a ton of

00:47:52.400 followers maybe this guy did um but that doesn't necessarily translate to actually feeling like

00:48:00.040 you're worth something moving through your life like you're worth it on here and you're worth it

00:48:04.600 on here with all these strangers but it doesn't sometimes it does but it doesn't necessarily mean

00:48:10.540 you're actually feeling like full like full or or like i have value in my life or or i

00:48:18.080 you know what i mean like yeah yeah it it's it's disconnected a little bit easy sort of sort of

00:48:25.960 because i've spoken on this before i feel very blessed and very fortunate to be able to have

00:48:34.000 gotten to where i'm at and to me you know the followers and the fans and the the people i

00:48:41.600 connect with when i post content it does mean something to me and it is very important in a

00:48:45.380 way it is very validating to me i feel because like how great is it that i get to do what i love

00:48:51.920 and people get to watch it and then enjoy it like i've said this before if i just if i just made

00:48:56.780 content and put it on i'm not sure i'm not really sure how long i would be doing that if it wasn't

00:49:02.600 being received for sure you know no for sure and and and there's that especially at the level that

00:49:07.900 you're at like you have a solid fan base that you have a a relationship like a cyclical yeah and

00:49:13.540 that's awesome um for so many kids especially like these high school kids who see you or see me and

00:49:20.100 they want this but like that's where i think it's dangerous if you want what logan has and you're

00:49:28.060 chasing it it's dangerous man because dangerous i said this i did a forbes interview uh which is

00:49:35.240 going to be out i think the same day as is maybe earlier but i said this it if you want to be a

00:49:41.100 consecrator or a youtuber which by the way is the most desired job now that kids want to become

00:49:45.680 don't do it because you want to be a youtuber make sure you're doing it because you love making

00:49:49.820 videos which i can always fall back and i happen i said this on forbes i happen to love doing this

00:49:56.300 thing that people love to consume right i just was blessed to be in that and uh otherwise it's

00:50:03.940 almost like you're chasing you know when they put that like there's those memes with the the thing

00:50:07.860 over your head and you're chasing like the dessert like you're never gonna get it yeah and if you're

00:50:12.760 chasing i think a lot of kids of course they see someone like you and they go i want that because

00:50:19.940 then i won't feel so unseen i won't feel so worthless i won't feel so like shitty but if

00:50:27.560 you're chasing it for that reason like it will always be this thing that you're chasing you

00:50:31.680 won't find it once you hit the fame you know buddy like once you hit it it's not like it doesn't make

00:50:38.320 everything easier nope nah there's definitely you can build a great community with it and you can

00:50:43.040 build a healthy relationship to it but it does not make things easier yeah i think that's one thing 0.58

00:50:47.780 that i've been because i'm new to all this shit and being on the show and like relatively new to 0.67

00:50:51.960 all the the views and the content so one thing that i've tried to do since i started racking 0.93

00:50:56.920 up followers and views and subscribers and all that shit is portray a more authentic bella talked

00:51:03.780 about this on the podcast hasn't aired yet to promote a more authentic person yes i have very 0.96

00:51:10.000 shitty days i have mental health problems i had a severe addiction to opiates at one point in my

00:51:15.280 life i have strained relationships with family members with it's not perfect logan has done a 0.63

00:51:21.600 good job over the past year plus of showing those pieces of armor that are missing on his armor i

00:51:28.640 think that's so important to show people yo we've worked really hard but we are just like you we

00:51:33.960 have the same kind of problems that you do so yeah getting famous making money like all that stuff it

00:51:37.800 doesn't make everything better no and you just you have to work at making those things better just

00:51:42.980 like you work to get here yeah you have to work that too and what's weird with the fame too and

00:51:48.000 it's kind of what i saw happen with you is like we all need feedback in our lives we and it's

00:51:54.800 internal and it's external. We need feedback for us to know if what we're doing is right,

00:51:59.700 like where to go, how to learn. And unless our internal map is really strong, but it only gets

00:52:05.400 strong by like doing this thing with external feedback. It's like, we need to listen to the

00:52:11.040 world outside. You get super famous for being a certain way and doing a certain thing. All the

00:52:16.320 feedback is positive, but it's not the most reliable source of feedback. It's especially

00:52:21.720 for a young dude who does who hasn't had a ton of life experience i really like how you're putting

00:52:27.440 this yeah like success is not failure is better life experience than success truly um it's better

00:52:33.900 for you to learn and and test your character and see who you are and so getting all that positive

00:52:38.940 feedback like you were making millions of dollars being a certain type of way and i watched it from

00:52:45.820 the movie to you getting publicly exploded um you had just started your like daily vlogs when we

00:52:53.140 were on the movie okay okay and you were one type away yeah no i i know and you started doing these

00:52:59.740 daily vlogs which was like this momentum and this energy and this like caricature you kind of became

00:53:04.600 of yourself and you're getting all this feedback saying keep going yeah yeah yeah yeah and i think

00:53:11.140 it i think for you it had to take something pretty humiliating and intense and gnarly i can't even

00:53:18.720 imagine what that's like um for you to to to break through that bubble of positive feedback 0.89

00:53:25.640 like something had to stop you dude you were a maniac yeah uh yeah no i was and and i i agree

00:53:31.740 it was it was life telling me like stop right there kid before like you by the way like who 0.60

00:53:36.320 knows you die something bad happens you hurt someone yeah like um and Chrissy Teigen actually

00:53:40.700 before she flipped on me uh and rightfully so she actually took the same stance that you did it's

00:53:46.560 she questioned it's the same audience that builds you up and builds you up and builds you up for 0.98

00:53:52.600 doing being a moron essentially eventually if you do something that doesn't fit in their agenda um 0.88

00:53:59.200 and and by the way rightfully so because it is like a certain type of feedback and the experience 0.98

00:54:02.800 and the way you absorb it and process it uh there's something to be said about the culture

00:54:07.380 that is breeding the creators right you know like you talk about this a lot like why why are we

00:54:13.320 and i know the answer why are we listening to to music where it's cool to pop pills on the daily 0.83

00:54:20.460 yeah well it fucking slaps and it's dope but is the message that great probably not yeah 0.84

00:54:25.820 is it kids nowadays i mean what is there's there's some statistic about opiates and 0.99

00:54:34.240 and drugs and it's in millennials and generation z and it's crazy i think it's probably higher than

00:54:39.640 it's ever been just because the current culture we're living in it's the healthiest it normalizes

00:54:44.460 it it's no i'm pretty careful about like i'm pretty selective about the music that i listen to

00:54:50.320 and it's all of it the people you're around the music you listen to like it will become you will

00:54:55.960 become that well i think it's your on a deeper level it comes down to your subconscious mind

00:55:01.060 like you're programming your subconscious mind and your subconscious mind is different from

00:55:06.620 your conscious mind so if you are telling your subconscious mind like you know what a lot of

00:55:12.840 these songs have like doing drugs you know living like flipping a bag tumble it like all this stuff

00:55:18.820 and you don't actually have that success

00:55:21.140 and you're just living how these rappers are living

00:55:23.160 or whatever, you're living in this false

00:55:25.260 reality and you're

00:55:26.820 It's not cool to flip the bag all the time

00:55:29.160 You don't even have the resources to flip

00:55:31.320 You don't have a bag to flip

00:55:32.520 You don't have a bag to flip

00:55:33.540 You're programming yourself

00:55:36.260 You just gotta be careful, you gotta be aware

00:55:38.840 That's such a good point

00:55:39.900 How many people out there that you see

00:55:41.480 all over their Instagrams

00:55:43.980 talking about bags that they're flipping

00:55:45.540 and they don't have a bag 0.99

00:55:46.680 they don't have a single fucking bag 0.99

00:55:48.900 trust that anyone like flaunting 0.99

00:55:51.120 about the bag or the car they just bought

00:55:53.060 unless they're like an A-list celebrity

00:55:55.120 I can promise you it's not true

00:55:56.920 exhibit A soldier boy I'm sorry

00:55:58.920 this dude like a week before he got

00:56:01.100 locked up is with

00:56:02.540 sitting on like an orange McLaren next to

00:56:05.200 a orange Lamborghini Urus and I'm like

00:56:07.340 brother you haven't made a

00:56:09.120 hit song since 2003

00:56:10.600 how on God's green earth do you think

00:56:12.900 you're affording these things

00:56:14.220 there's real people out there

00:56:15.920 that talk about this stuff and i think it's it's amazing i'm curious do you think that with the the

00:56:23.520 new success that you're finding do you think this audience is different from the audience that you

00:56:28.600 popped off from yeah for sure for sure because you lost a bunch of them for sure i didn't actually

00:56:34.680 i didn't i did not he gained a million actually yeah man it was it's just um that audience has

00:56:42.020 grown up they're not they're not necessarily different people but it's a combination of new

00:56:46.160 people and that audience has grown up like you're not going to be 14 years old and want to be in

00:56:50.060 the low gang for the rest of your life that i've been doing vlogs for how long maybe three years

00:56:54.220 so now the 14 year olds are 17 and they've gone through puberty and they like different things

00:56:58.100 and they drink coffee now um they're they're they're adults and so yeah we've aged up our

00:57:03.200 content and and for sure i i i enjoy making content for for my type of person i think it's

00:57:11.840 It's super interesting to me because just when you look at what YouTube has done to the world, you know, and the fact that people are growing up and now they're still consuming content, like TV is gone.

00:57:26.120 Bro, oh my God, I'm so glad you brought this up.

00:57:28.560 We're not watching TV anymore.

00:57:29.600 I went to watch TV last night.

00:57:31.420 We have the one TV in the house in my room.

00:57:33.160 You did hear the TV?

00:57:33.860 I heard it when I was walking in line.

00:57:35.180 And I'm flipping through the channels and this is so foreign to me.

00:57:38.700 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:39.080 All the channels suck. 1.00

00:57:41.000 And commercials. 1.00

00:57:41.580 The content sucks, the commercials suck, everything about it sucks. 0.99

00:57:45.720 And I'm like, oh my God, I can't, I now know why this is dying slash dead. 0.99

00:57:53.320 It makes so much, it's so obvious to me.

00:57:55.680 We talk about this a lot too, and I want to make sure that we're kind of careful.

00:57:59.620 TV still represents the most consumed media.

00:58:02.200 For sure.

00:58:02.440 Like it's by a long shot.

00:58:03.560 It's not even close, okay?

00:58:05.360 What are the stats on that?

00:58:06.740 Should I pull it up?

00:58:07.240 Pull something up, yeah.

00:58:08.160 so but but it's but it's close the gap is yeah getting closer smaller right and so like the age

00:58:15.140 discrepancy younger people are way i was about to say if you look at an age group of course but if

00:58:22.140 you go go from five to 25 and see how many of those are even i think as you get to like 20 i

00:58:27.660 think if you once you get to like 18 it probably gets back to tv too yeah is it tv or is it like

00:58:32.040 streaming yeah i'm not even i'm not even talking about ott or addressable i'm talking about cable

00:58:37.040 i'm talking about literal cable cable still represents the hot it's like i don't know a

00:58:41.000 single person that watches cable television is it what is it like 70 it's still like what's

00:58:46.400 the number of traditional cable homes fell to 76.4 percent from 80.4 percent and this so that's so

00:58:55.240 that's the stat of people that watch cable back in 2017 yeah so it's like 75 and it's gotta still

00:59:00.100 be dropping yeah i'm sure yeah it's dropping i'm sure that's what was weird with like you guys like

00:59:05.360 vine and youtube stars was like i was like at that last end of like of like pre-social media

00:59:13.460 child actors and then all of a sudden there was the social media boom and then the like new media

00:59:19.580 boom it was crazy to watch i also find interesting is now the kids who are on nickelodeon the kid

00:59:25.920 actors or disney can uh develop a following and have this other asset and completely new entity

00:59:33.040 that you weren't able to have because social media didn't exist neds missed like twitter

00:59:37.940 by like by like this little chunk of time by like a year maybe really and every other kid

00:59:45.000 who is on nickelodeon just a little bit past us like all their numbers just boom like like

00:59:52.040 there's victoria justice yeah and theirs was after i carly like all these like were a little

00:59:58.320 bit after ours and they're like that they boomed that sucks because they all just like missed it

01:00:03.900 they all have such monetized channels that is to me so so unfortunate bro this chick this girl

01:00:12.220 olivia rodrigo um she was on my brother's show bizardvark okay and and i think i met her and

01:00:18.620 you know she was like 13 14 3 000 followers right now she's in the disney machine she's got 1.1

01:00:25.240 million and by the way this girl has insane talent like she can sing too yeah i wouldn't be so hey

01:00:29.520 mark my words right now what year is it 2019 this girl could be like uh ariana grande type

01:00:35.880 zendaya personality because she's cool mega talented but it was so interesting i remember

01:00:40.300 meeting her for the first time and she had such a small following it was so down to earth and

01:00:44.320 i'm looking at her and i'm like i i know exactly what you're going to become in the next five years

01:00:49.860 and it's crazy and it's oh i don't know if it's going to ruin you but it's already like she's

01:00:53.720 already blossomed and developed and having that she can do so much with this yes yes i know and

01:01:00.320 it's crazy how you just missed that devin you were born like two years too early it's so weird

01:01:06.440 but a lot of my life or or my adolescent life has gone that way and in hindsight i'm so glad dude

01:01:13.340 like i hated it then i'm like oh my god like all my contemporaries around me who i've known

01:01:19.360 this whole time we've been kid actors are like rising in their numbers and we just miss it and

01:01:25.100 they're getting new shows they're getting streamy awards and i'm here like doing lifetime movies and 0.62

01:01:29.680 shit and it was hard to watch and it still is at times like watching these kids that i know where 0.51

01:01:34.540 i'm like i'm like i'm better than you yeah yeah um but watching them be more successful but i'm so 0.99

01:01:43.640 glad it went that way because i was able to like sort of live my life and make mistakes like you

01:01:49.580 had to make this huge fuck up in front of so many people i was able to like have enough fame to have

01:01:56.900 some something and make some money but enough anonymity to like go to music festivals and go 0.97

01:02:03.260 to burning man and like have people not know who i am and fail under the radar no i lived the best

01:02:09.920 life at burning man i went six years dumb stuff at burning man you've been for six years yeah i

01:02:14.420 went six years in a row it's my favorite place you're a major burn where you work for all seven

01:02:18.100 days uh uh more sometimes no way 14 days sometimes how yeah i'll be there early to build a camp and

01:02:24.480 then i'll stay later what draws you to burning man um so i went when i was 20 i went in 2011

01:02:31.100 and um i had just gotten out of this relationship and i was down with the relationship to be over

01:02:37.740 but I was just kind of like a little lost on like what what is life now and my sister my older

01:02:42.600 sister was like hey let's go on a trip like let's do like you and me time we were homies and and all

01:02:47.540 of a sudden the trip turned into wait why don't why don't we go to Burning Man this was the last

01:02:50.900 year you could buy tickets like the week before so she's like why don't we go to Burning Man like

01:02:54.400 our friend Reed he goes to Burning Man like let's go so we planned this trip and we went um

01:02:58.940 I like at that time that's kind of just what like got me into I mean I've been to Coachella so I was

01:03:04.880 like open to burning man i didn't know what i was getting myself into what was so what brought me

01:03:09.640 back and what i love and what i'll forever be grateful for uh about that space is i think we're

01:03:15.200 all self-aware people like you're aware of your dynamics socially so many people talk about social

01:03:21.480 anxiety all that stuff that's being aware of how people are perceiving you and you getting caught

01:03:25.560 up with like well how do i do the best things where i'm received well all that all that mental

01:03:30.320 talk and mental awareness it just takes energy especially as an actor I've been an actor since

01:03:35.940 I was 10 years old I'm painfully self-aware in social situations my job is literally to go in

01:03:42.040 a room audition and be judged like welcome judgment judge if I'm good enough for your role

01:03:47.360 like that is emotionally and energetically taxing yeah and um so to be in that my whole life and

01:03:55.520 then go to burning man and genuinely feel like oh like that's not what's happening here no i'm in

01:04:03.380 a city and no one is judging in that way no one's playing no one's like marking my worth they're 0.81

01:04:11.760 just here to see each other and have a good fucking time has that started to die because i've 0.78

01:04:17.480 because now they're they're saying influencers are starting to ruin the playa i haven't been 0.97

01:04:21.980 back oh i heard this massive because like listen you go you go to the playa everybody's out there 0.99

01:04:26.380 everybody's relaxing at one point like you weren't supposed to be taking any fucking photos you 0.72

01:04:30.880 weren't supposed to be doing anything along the lines of any kind of social anything like that 0.91

01:04:33.700 and now you've got the entire victoria social uh victoria's secret supermodel squad out there 0.91

01:04:39.540 taking pictures like i am fucking flaunting and they're like yo you're in my way of watching the 0.96

01:04:44.120 burn right now yeah burn is happening you are standing there taking photos i can't see the 0.99

01:04:48.200 yeah the last time i went uh i there's no service in the desert absolutely zero and when i left i

01:04:55.040 found out the one day i was there and we did manage to get a video up because we had my assistant

01:05:00.260 drive the footage three hours in and out of the camp to the nearest wi-fi site i i watched that

01:05:04.580 vlog i hated it which one which one was it the first one day in burning man the single day yeah 0.68

01:05:09.900 where it got the one where things went wrong yeah okay i probably would hate it and i hated you for

01:05:15.760 why why would i do so antish let me finish the story so not burning man yeah but go ahead okay

01:05:20.460 so so then i well that's what i want to talk about because i do want to contest you a little

01:05:24.520 bit on burning man but um yeah i i got an email from the people at burning man and they told me

01:05:31.060 they were going to come to my camp find me and kick me out because i was filming and by the way

01:05:35.060 like influencers in a way but probably are ruining like the sentiment of what to the first and true

01:05:40.720 burning man is so so you can't you can't stop the change of culture like i went in 2011 for my first

01:05:48.440 time there's already burners who in 2011 are they've been going since 1993 and they're like

01:05:54.040 this is not what it was so it's always been changing however it tipped into the mainstream

01:06:00.080 in like 2012 2013 it started being in rolling stone it started being like it tipped into the

01:06:06.820 mainstream culture people now know it it used to not be like known at all um that change yeah i

01:06:13.920 don't think is the best because you go in now with having seen so many photos having so many

01:06:18.840 expectations of what it looks like what it feels like you're there to get your photo like it's just

01:06:24.160 changed the level of like when i went in it was just discovery dude i saw we drove 12 hours from

01:06:30.900 la and all of a sudden we're driving through the middle of the desert and it's dark for three hours

01:06:34.680 And all of a sudden I see these lights on the horizon in the middle of nowhere.

01:06:37.800 And it's like, oh, we're about to go into that for a week with no service.

01:06:42.980 Like eight days, we have all our own food and water.

01:06:45.420 Like we're going to build shade.

01:06:47.580 What is about to happen?

01:06:48.720 There was this level of like, whoa, I'm about to go into something.

01:06:53.980 Playing devil's advocate to that, I think part of that's natural because, you know,

01:06:59.940 like Burning Man is this community where there's no government.

01:07:03.140 Have you been?

01:07:03.680 No.

01:07:04.020 i really want to but um like similar to venice and santa monica there's this culture you guys

01:07:10.500 have been you've seen it it it's very disconnected and i think it can be a form of escapism it can be

01:07:17.480 like or is it or is it more connected oh for sure quite literally to being a human and that's the

01:07:23.760 whole reason why you're not supposed to have phones and video here's my problem the sanctity

01:07:28.700 of burning man and and i will tell you and i i'm sure burner will tell you that your opinion on

01:07:35.880 burning man is the last thing burners want to hear right that is just how it's a music hold on

01:07:41.320 what kind of person doesn't want to hear i get that i get that i'm not saying i'm not saying me

01:07:46.720 but what i'm saying is burners are historically against anything that ruins the sanctity of

01:07:53.440 burning man people that leave trash behind that's totally cool i just want to say what's cool is

01:07:57.580 burning man is a city of 70 000 people there is no one burner some people think it's all hippies

01:08:03.160 nah dude the og 15 year burners are like gnarly desert mad max mechanics who are like for sure

01:08:10.160 like into like cussing people out but it is a board but it is a board and they make this they 1.00

01:08:14.880 make decisions based on like trying to keep out all of that bullshit the shit that we all you know 0.98

01:08:20.300 i think i think it's a it's it's there's a space for that but what i'm getting at is that there's 0.98

01:08:25.340 a part of natural evolution where an idea as cool as burning man needs to make it to that general

01:08:32.000 population it's kind of like yo yes that's what i mean it's always gotta you gotta keep it in

01:08:37.580 can't stop it but but eventually it's less cool when everyone knows about it and not and i don't

01:08:44.580 mean that i mean it's genuinely like it's less easy to experience discovery there when you already

01:08:51.780 have expectation about it got you um well it's like yeah i just i guess i'm making the comparison

01:08:56.420 to like yoga like there's yoga is like booming right now and there's a lot of people who like

01:09:03.180 are are you know a lot of people are claiming they're bastardizing it because it's all about

01:09:07.520 these fancy positions and like let's show off and that goes like completely against the meaning of

01:09:13.520 yoga so it's kind of interesting how it has to make it to the world sure nike yeah i don't release

01:09:18.320 their yoga line like i don't think you can fight something that's gonna happen fight it yeah last

01:09:23.640 thing what's up logan i just want to say great conversation no i do i agree my dude i'll talk

01:09:28.080 about burning man for six hours so help me with this my problem with burning man was i was i am

01:09:32.440 not good at having nothing to do that isn't always benefiting maybe i don't want to see

01:09:40.880 career that isn't maybe benefiting my life it i found myself sleeping just to pass the time

01:09:48.360 because i had nothing to do and sure you go ride the bikes and you look at a sculpture

01:09:52.400 and you go watch a thing burn and then like what like now what dude that's so funny it's like but

01:09:58.160 but i think what the answer that is like it's like somebody who can't read being at the library

01:10:02.660 like you don't you don't you don't kind of have a a bind with the kind of things that happen at

01:10:09.120 burning man and which is why they want to keep people like you out of burning man because they

01:10:13.740 want people who appreciate the arts the culture yeah the sights the sound all i by the way i might

01:10:20.400 be in the same boat as you i'm not i don't want to bastardize you totally i think i definitely

01:10:24.840 would to me you definitely would to me i love having eight days well now there's service out

01:10:31.400 there which i hate there is yeah dude people are on their phones it's ridiculous i i love i'm i 0.95

01:10:36.140 haven't been in two years i put my shit down which is another thing i learned i threw it out 0.90

01:10:39.740 like i turn my phone off and only use it for photos i turn it on airplane mode the whole time 0.97

01:10:44.040 um what i love i love not having anything to do but exist for eight days you know how liberating

01:10:50.540 that is do you know how liberating it is to not be in the mode that we're always in here which is

01:10:55.800 like how do i keep my life progressing which is a great mode to be in i love it i'm not good at not

01:11:00.980 I love it being in that state but going to burning man we're like I literally just get to wake up

01:11:05.480 like breathe and go like what do I want to do today I don't know I'm gonna walk that way and

01:11:11.280 see what happens oh and like burning man's full I know I know burning man's full of I don't know

01:11:17.180 art or like I'm gonna stumble upon a dance party or a phone party or a bar everything's free and

01:11:23.040 gifted at burning man I'm gonna I don't have to spend money like I literally just get to walk

01:11:27.180 and discover what my day is it's like my favorite place in the world for that i get you not being

01:11:32.960 able to turn off your little worker brain it's a problem deeply uh healing and like i need it i

01:11:41.120 need for my soul to like shut off this like progress mind some of the time and everybody 0.52

01:11:47.080 yeah everybody needs that i think we're seeing mental health become such a crisis and everybody's

01:11:52.360 like why what's going on it's like it's for that exact reason if you can't unplug from your work

01:11:58.040 if you can't shut things off like we yeah we know that like neuroscience is proving this like you

01:12:05.120 have to shut off i remember at one point not too many years ago if you weren't able to shut off

01:12:11.260 from things you knew that was a mental like for me when i was a kid and or or even in my adult years

01:12:17.260 and i couldn't put the video games down or i couldn't stop watching movies i'm like this isn't

01:12:21.460 good now i see people like logan in some cases and people of of his you know similar age group

01:12:28.180 they're like no i i can't do that but that's okay yeah like i'm grinding yeah you well because you

01:12:35.380 have to turn it off if you don't if you can't turn your work off you are life is not happening

01:12:42.420 for you you're not even living a life bro do you understand i'm saying you're just not even living

01:12:46.780 sort of sort of see i i gave you this no in the van and you didn't take it no no no i get these

01:12:52.060 absolute concrete statements yeah no it's and that's like quite simply not true part of a fair

01:12:56.860 that's but it's part of a balanced life for me being able to like turn off not need to be this

01:13:03.060 thing or not need to be my progress but just like be just go out and to the woods and just like sit

01:13:08.340 there bro but i can do it in the woods i bet you can it's very easy which is so odd to me and it's

01:13:14.300 so good for your brand dude i i i like i can sit in the woods for seven days and hike for seven

01:13:19.600 days and leave your leave your phone like just for your just yeah it's different for everybody 0.53

01:13:23.840 right like each of us have that thing yeah that we can put hours into and be like holy shit that

01:13:30.540 was only five minutes so how was that 10 hours for me it's the water like i've always told you

01:13:34.980 that lazy river and the reason and the reason why i like it is because it's the one place that i

01:13:40.740 could go when i'm floating on a raft yeah it's for some reason the water does something very

01:13:45.240 calming to my nerves and i know it's water's proven to do that and like pets and and all

01:13:49.160 kinds of stuff and people bring their dogs that have arthritis into the water and they feel better

01:13:53.660 when i'm in the water on the water i just feel more calm you know and i can put my phone down

01:13:59.220 and just relax the thing with the thing that i love for just back to burning man is like it's

01:14:04.700 that and it's so much stress and intensity and works a lot burning man is work here's the other

01:14:10.560 thing that people are missing and up and something that is hard to change within the culture but

01:14:15.200 it's gonna it's gonna it can ruin it is people who fly in and fly out have an rv already there

01:14:22.460 for them like for me the release is i like i go crazy the month before packing renting a van 0.68

01:14:30.100 packing a van like 3d tetris with all this shit that we're gonna need to survive getting there 0.67

01:14:35.520 on no sleep building a camp with sledgehammers and like my body after having no sleep building 0.97

01:14:41.840 this camp because we need it to survive to live in these intense ass conditions building all that 0.58

01:14:48.060 falling asleep and then waking up and then being able to like just drop that is so like it's the

01:14:54.280 best i love it yeah yeah yeah it's exhausting and and there's definitely it's like a cathartic

01:14:58.480 experience when you can when you've then after yes yes i never i never thought of it like that

01:15:03.600 because I think there's been such a quick trajectory for me

01:15:07.420 that I'm just now realizing now that you're saying it

01:15:09.660 that like I may never experience a thing in the right way again.

01:15:13.560 Like, yo, when I want to go to a music festival now,

01:15:16.760 I call the music festival people that are putting it on.

01:15:19.700 They say, your artist band will be here.

01:15:21.400 Your luxury glamping dome will be ready

01:15:23.740 with Casper mattresses and air conditioner.

01:15:25.900 I say, oh God, I hope I can fly private for this.

01:15:29.840 But if I can't, I'm going to have to fly an economy on Delta. 0.97

01:15:31.760 But I fly there, the shit's set up, my food's ready. 0.96

01:15:34.620 And then I'm like, oh, I want to go to the show at the festival. 0.98

01:15:37.740 Everybody else is walking with their friends.

01:15:39.320 I'm on a golf cart by myself. 1.00

01:15:41.160 Like, yo, fuck you guys. 1.00

01:15:42.340 I didn't realize I'm just alone on a golf cart. 1.00

01:15:45.700 You really made it, Mike.

01:15:46.780 And then you wonder.

01:15:47.980 It's not even, but still enough to realize that it's starting to decay.

01:15:51.120 And then you wonder why you don't feel like connected at the experience or, you know what I mean?

01:15:55.580 Like sometimes it's not making it the most luxury.

01:15:59.900 like do it as a real human and you'll actually get like rewarded because some of it'll suck

01:16:05.900 do we have more fun in ga and vip at coachella or in the bar artist backstage because i know i

01:16:12.020 have more fun we're at the bar and vip going crazy for sure yeah for sure there's some experience

01:16:18.400 but there's some experiences we're doing a vip oh oh and coachella is one of them we all have

01:16:23.140 our artist passes we get to go back and use the air-conditioned bathroom yeah there's experiences

01:16:27.260 where you're like

01:16:27.840 I'm not GA today

01:16:31.100 Yo, you should

01:16:33.060 Do you have a podcast? No. You should

01:16:35.020 You should. You're really animated

01:16:37.340 and wise and articulate. I think you'd

01:16:39.340 be good if you had one. Okay. I'll do the

01:16:41.480 life survival guide podcast

01:16:42.660 That's awesome

01:16:45.180 Just got

01:16:45.780 By the way, we have a guy that can literally do it

01:16:48.960 Why? Don't do it for you. Brad has

01:16:51.340 a whole team. You're on Logan's payroll. It's great

01:16:53.460 Logan's gonna pay for my podcast. You heard it

01:16:55.560 here first you and if you named it that dude i'm sure there'd be like a little viral spark

01:16:59.400 at first get sponsors yeah you don't have by the way you don't have to pay as long as you can sell

01:17:03.160 ads which they'll do for you it's kind of what i'm doing at these college talks like i'm doing

01:17:07.100 it in person i just haven't done it on podcast but this is what i'm doing you're you're a really

01:17:11.300 good guest and we've been talking about a lot of things you know a lot about a lot of things

01:17:14.640 yeah listen you sing man you also sing i do that's great uh you're going what you're going

01:17:18.200 on tour i'm not going on tour but i'm i'm opening for seal right two shows this is like a big break

01:17:25.260 in my music life

01:17:26.120 big freaking deal

01:17:26.660 right there

01:17:27.000 congratulations

01:17:27.680 I played my shop

01:17:29.180 in January

01:17:29.760 which was 50 people

01:17:30.740 and now I'm gonna

01:17:31.320 open two shows

01:17:32.000 for Seal

01:17:32.400 at venues

01:17:33.080 that are 2500 people

01:17:34.500 let's go dude

01:17:35.400 congrats

01:17:36.000 thanks man

01:17:36.460 that's awesome

01:17:37.280 that's awesome

01:17:38.640 that's so bright

01:17:39.940 we got the

01:17:40.320 flashy lights now

01:17:41.380 hey

01:17:41.960 no I'm really excited

01:17:43.740 how does that happen

01:17:44.520 this is like a big

01:17:44.720 my manager

01:17:45.900 partnered with

01:17:48.320 another manager

01:17:48.860 who manages Seal

01:17:49.500 so now I'm managed

01:17:50.360 by Seal's manager

01:17:51.400 Maya

01:17:51.780 I love you

01:17:52.560 Maya and Daniel

01:17:53.260 those are my managers 0.96

01:17:54.020 shut up

01:17:54.560 Um, and yeah, and now some things are happening and I have this new EP that I Indiegogo'd

01:18:01.400 and it's, you know, it was a good campaign and now I have this new EP and doing these

01:18:05.000 shows and I'm really pumped, man.

01:18:06.600 That's awesome.

01:18:07.060 What kind of music?

01:18:08.200 Singer, songwriter, like my, my version of, I don't know, John Mayer, Jason Morales, like

01:18:12.840 my, my thing with that.

01:18:14.460 I want to, uh, I want to hear some stuff.

01:18:16.000 You want to hear?

01:18:16.280 Cool with it.

01:18:16.640 Yeah.

01:18:16.800 You want me to play a song?

01:18:17.620 I'm a, oh, we got the guitar.

01:18:18.700 I brought my guitar.

01:18:20.340 Do you mind giving it to Devin?

01:18:21.540 Wow.

01:18:21.880 This is so weird.

01:18:22.800 I just, it's kind of convenient.

01:18:23.940 I'll play you guys a little ditty

01:18:27.020 does this mic

01:18:27.860 will this get it

01:18:28.900 I think so

01:18:29.920 it's just like

01:18:30.680 yeah Bert can turn you up

01:18:31.720 alright

01:18:32.180 you figure it out sound guy

01:18:33.740 yeah I'll play

01:18:35.400 is this an original

01:18:35.980 a little something

01:18:36.480 yeah I'll play an original

01:18:50.840 there are times

01:18:51.940 that I feel the weight

01:18:53.680 of the world on me on me as if my life has turned into something i can't reach

01:19:01.160 where you gonna go who you gonna be what you wanna say will you be oh okay in the dark of night

01:19:08.760 can i let the stars shine and say that i won't no i won't run and run away run away run away

01:19:20.400 From this place

01:19:23.060 Finding the light

01:19:25.620 Finding the light

01:19:26.680 This is my life

01:19:27.820 This is my life

01:19:28.860 My life

01:19:29.580 You might find

01:19:37.160 Yourself sinking like you can't breathe

01:19:40.240 But in this life

01:19:42.760 To take in air is all you need

01:19:45.460 You need to open your heart

01:19:47.100 And release

01:19:47.760 Make yourself whole

01:19:48.440 Other it's repeat

01:19:49.060 Now where you wanna go

01:19:49.900 you want to be what you want to say will you be okay be still like night and let the stars shine

01:19:58.720 and play and let go just don't go run and run away run away run away from this place

01:20:10.140 finding the light finding the light this is my life don't leave and it's been dark like this

01:20:18.420 before and it feels like you can't take anymore but it's a slow climb it's a slow climb this is

01:20:25.720 your time this is your time your time

01:20:28.220 what if the tunnel is only an illusion what is the steady thing that beats through the confusion

01:20:46.020 If my life is meant to be a revolution

01:20:48.900 I am revolution

01:20:51.820 If the tunnel is only an illusion

01:20:54.840 Which is the steady thing that beats through the confusion

01:20:57.840 If my life is meant to be a revolution

01:21:00.880 I am revolution

01:21:03.880 Oh

01:21:06.240 I am revolution

01:21:10.000 Oh

01:21:12.280 so don't run away run away run away from this place

01:21:20.740 finding the life finding the light this is your life don't leave and it's been dark like this

01:21:29.060 before and it feels like you can't take anymore but it's a slow climb it's a slow climb this is

01:21:36.360 your time this is your time it's a

01:21:39.920 slow climb it's a slow climb this is

01:21:42.140 your time and your time

01:21:44.040 it's a slow climb it's a slow climb

01:21:47.460 this is your time this is your time

01:21:49.620 your time

01:21:50.300 Yo, that was awesome

01:22:07.020 Yo, that was really

01:22:08.420 Awesome

01:22:09.040 Really good, dude

01:22:10.360 Opening for Seal

01:22:11.120 July 13th

01:22:11.960 July 19th

01:22:12.780 Wow

01:22:13.140 Had some

01:22:13.580 By far the best

01:22:15.140 I think music performance

01:22:16.140 We've ever had on this show

01:22:17.140 The Blink-182 vibes

01:22:18.760 On that intro

01:22:20.060 and outro

01:22:20.660 and it's got a lot of

01:22:23.200 it touches on some of those tones that we've been talking

01:22:26.020 about mental health and just and sticking with

01:22:28.080 it where can we download that song immediately

01:22:29.920 it's not out yet

01:22:30.820 exclusive impulsive exclusive

01:22:33.680 it kind of is man no one's heard that yet but I

01:22:36.000 have a video for that that'll be out

01:22:37.380 probably by the end of the summer bro that is awesome

01:22:40.220 thank you man that is awesome I love

01:22:41.880 the chords on that

01:22:43.020 and you can play guitar dude you can sing what don't

01:22:46.080 you do listen I've been building 0.99

01:22:47.980 all this up in the dark man 0.99

01:22:49.540 i think i think what's what i what i pulled from that is like your life experience all that shit 0.98

01:22:55.440 that you went through has now given you something to actually sing like if you didn't go through 0.95

01:22:59.980 that that song that you just played would not have felt the way it just did straight up that

01:23:04.400 was powerful that's straight up um yeah like we gotta go through stuff and that's where again

01:23:10.040 like the success can actually isolate insulate you from experiencing the things you need to

01:23:16.900 experience to like say something or actually connect with people if you're just like built

01:23:22.740 up since you were a kid it's why i think kid actors sometimes go crazy when they get older

01:23:27.120 because they're not ready for the few things that go wrong no they're not things going right

01:23:32.420 built up and then all of a sudden they're like who am i and where am i and what does it mean

01:23:37.800 when it all comes down yeah well think about all the like just right like you know i say regular

01:23:42.940 but like people who just go the traditional route go to college like think about all the people who

01:23:48.200 go crazy going that route right like it's not like we look at these kid actors and be like oh my god

01:23:52.700 they go crazy but then people saying that are just equally as crazy that's so true because

01:23:57.580 i think the bigger problem is that we are so sheltered and we are bred to fear failure like

01:24:07.140 Like when someone like you or you make a mistake, like you're you're you don't want to talk to Terry Cruz or anybody that's coming in.

01:24:15.140 Like we we as a society breed this like you should fear failure.

01:24:20.720 Like, hey, you're getting a C. You're a C student. You're a D student.

01:24:24.220 Like immediately we start to say, oh, my God, I'm not as good as somebody else. 0.99

01:24:28.020 Like it sucks. And it's the best thing guys out there. 0.79

01:24:32.900 if you can lean into those moments

01:24:35.920 and not blame when you're experiencing failure.

01:24:38.860 If you can go,

01:24:39.960 oh, I thought I was doing it right and I wasn't.

01:24:42.880 And like, oh, what can I do now?

01:24:46.560 Yeah, just admitting it.

01:24:47.600 It's the best, dude.

01:24:47.880 It's the best.

01:24:48.900 Just drop into it, man.

01:24:50.520 You don't have to be perfect.

01:24:51.960 There's a lot of value in this podcast.

01:24:53.860 Hey, hey.

01:24:54.260 Our audience is waking up.

01:24:55.760 Hey, wake up.

01:24:56.640 One by one, yo.

01:24:57.800 People are waking up.

01:24:58.840 And Weinstein, Eric Weinstein,

01:25:02.420 said it was because of the podcast world like we are not traditional media we don't have to answer

01:25:06.860 we don't have to say the things that like parents want to hear yeah it's kind of true and it's long

01:25:11.040 form it's not these little uh sensitized like or sanitized like snippets it's yeah want to know a

01:25:17.520 real conversation crazy stat to prove what you're saying is is 100 true um i just looked it up fox

01:25:22.760 news is the number one watched cable television show and hannity it was one of the examples is

01:25:29.000 it gets uh or got whenever it was airing um an average of three million viewers hannity hannity

01:25:36.480 which is their number one show yeah he's the number he's getting three three million think

01:25:41.680 about that yeah think about how many is what 20 million you're getting this is getting a million

01:25:46.900 yeah right we're communicating that they think of how many millions of dollars they're spending

01:25:52.940 on advertising and just placement to have cable and sig like all this infrastructure we don't have

01:25:59.720 to do any of that and we're getting a million people if we don't strictly speaking on like

01:26:04.200 advertisements if we don't reap the benefits of uh like the podcast space and the audience like

01:26:09.500 we should i think we're definitely teeing it up for the next generation of podcasters like when

01:26:13.240 like me like exactly exactly like when is the digital space gonna be valued for what it's

01:26:18.540 a couple bucks bro on the side yeah please man no sponsors no i'm gonna forget about you guys

01:26:22.440 no sponsors no please don't no come back and one very quick because i know he's probably trying to

01:26:27.580 move but um the people that they talk to on hannity are people that are locked are locked

01:26:34.520 into their beliefs they're 40 to 60 years old 70 80 years right we're talking to a million plus

01:26:40.520 moldable yeah it's a television it's a television gap program yeah yeah it's a program program like

01:26:47.400 that is like designed that person's there you know if they don't agree with what needs to be said

01:26:53.340 somebody else is going to come in that we don't have that you don't have someone behind you saying

01:26:57.120 hey logan this is what you got to tell these kids and this is what we're going to sell them

01:27:00.140 like yeah it's nice puppet isn't there it's real nice uh hey do you have any facts we do segments

01:27:05.680 on the show and we have a segment called facts with spencer and spencer hey always usually comes

01:27:09.440 equipped with dope facts bring us some facts bro bring us some fresh hot facties it's crazy because

01:27:13.660 So I got some good ones.

01:27:15.000 So.

01:27:16.380 Should I wait?

01:27:18.300 Well, normally we have a sound effect at that place.

01:27:20.140 I saw it.

01:27:20.920 I saw it go.

01:27:22.400 Brad's giving us the finger like, hold on one second.

01:27:25.140 Maybe we just do the facts.

01:27:26.740 No, I'll give it to someone.

01:27:27.740 Go ahead.

01:27:28.000 Maybe both of you guys could say it.

01:27:29.400 Why are you following them up?

01:27:30.820 Three, two, one.

01:27:32.840 Facts.

01:27:33.660 Why don't we just say it from now on?

01:27:35.240 That's so much easier.

01:27:36.720 So San Francisco.

01:27:37.440 Is that all that it was?

01:27:39.040 Facts.

01:27:39.580 Oh, it's got a little sparkle.

01:27:42.120 It's got a little sparkle to it.

01:27:43.520 So San Francisco becomes the first U.S. city to ban e-cigarettes.

01:27:49.720 Hey.

01:27:50.300 All right, San Fran.

01:27:51.560 So no jewels allowed.

01:27:53.480 No jewels.

01:27:54.280 Jewels are 70% of the e-cigarette market.

01:27:58.120 Of course they are.

01:27:59.180 So much money.

01:28:00.240 People are sucking these things down.

01:28:01.640 Do you guys live on? 0.71

01:28:02.740 I don't.

01:28:03.540 No.

01:28:04.000 We do not have jewels.

01:28:05.040 Jewel life is not welcome. 0.98

01:28:06.520 I'll hit them at the bar. 1.00

01:28:07.380 It's not not welcome. 0.97

01:28:08.360 It's just like.

01:28:09.020 It's just not the environment.

01:28:09.860 We're just pretty conscious here, dude.

01:28:11.460 Like that.

01:28:11.880 Respect.

01:28:12.540 That's what I'm saying.

01:28:13.040 and more so we just don't really like i don't know girl girls white girls love yeah white 0.56

01:28:18.600 no nicotine it's not tobacco white girls love jewels like can you imagine how many sad white 0.91

01:28:24.680 girls there are in san francisco right now wait i don't understand what's the what's the shtick 1.00

01:28:29.520 with like why why smoke jewels okay so vaporized so yeah so vapes um because it doesn't contain

01:28:36.020 because you feel cool it doesn't it doesn't contain the tobacco this is the moral situation 1.00

01:28:41.920 because uh a spokesperson what are you a fucking moron you're killing yourself well poisoning your 1.00

01:28:48.500 lungs well this is cool this is the debate is that some a spokesperson from jewel said uh basically 1.00

01:28:55.720 people are gonna end up going back to tobacco they're gonna smoke tobacco if jewels aren't

01:29:01.740 available or if e-cigarettes aren't available and uh jewel is 95 safer than smoking traditional

01:29:09.860 cigarettes but the reason why they're banning it is because there's no long-term studies like

01:29:14.400 it's it's completely legal for anybody to put a e-cigarette on the market right now but think

01:29:19.200 about how funny yeah we don't know the repercussions think about how funny that is

01:29:23.500 that they say that because e-cigarettes that they don't know the effects of are illegal but

01:29:30.100 cigarettes which you know cause cancer 100 percent weird hands down could be smoked wherever they

01:29:36.020 That's what they're saying, too. 0.99

01:29:37.120 It's the most ridiculous thing ever. 1.00

01:29:38.580 That is stupid. 1.00

01:29:40.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:29:41.000 That's just ridiculous. 0.98

01:29:41.320 What an odd conundrum. 0.95

01:29:42.520 Well, and Marlboro owns the majority of Juul.

01:29:47.760 I know.

01:29:48.560 Really?

01:29:49.500 Yeah, the tobacco industry owns the e-cigarettes.

01:29:53.180 Yeah, they just changed their product and are making all the money still. 1.00

01:29:55.880 Fuck. 1.00

01:29:56.320 Yeah, so come on, guys. 1.00

01:29:57.420 We're going to wake up.

01:29:58.180 I mean, the problem is, like, even with, like, marijuana being legalized, like, the problem is kids.

01:30:03.980 like if an adult wants to hit a jewel whatever but like teenagers you can't stop your brain as a

01:30:10.880 teenager from doing something that like you're addicted to or that feels good you're a teenager 0.99

01:30:15.900 and your brain's still being molded but you see all these people vaping or smoking weed or fucking 0.86

01:30:20.040 doing the jewels and you're like yeah this is the best yeah yeah i don't know yeah and there's no 0.94

01:30:25.220 long-term study on it i've just always like you know when they give you dare classes in high school

01:30:30.580 and like a lot of kids were like 1.00

01:30:32.740 yo that's fucking stupid 1.00

01:30:34.040 and by the way like 1.00

01:30:35.200 you were listening

01:30:35.660 you got the t-shirt

01:30:37.060 not only

01:30:37.460 I was definitely listening

01:30:38.520 I got the t-shirt

01:30:39.300 I never wore it

01:30:39.960 but like I was listening

01:30:40.840 and mind you

01:30:41.600 I was definitely like

01:30:43.060 okay they're being like

01:30:44.460 a little like exaggerated here

01:30:45.940 but it was so obvious to me

01:30:48.660 that these things you put in your body

01:30:50.200 hurt your body

01:30:51.040 which is the thing you live in

01:30:52.220 sure

01:30:52.520 so I never

01:30:54.080 so I never ended up smoking

01:30:56.060 I think the first time I smoked pot

01:30:57.320 I was like 19

01:30:58.000 and still I've done it

01:30:58.900 like only a handful of times in my life 1.00

01:31:00.360 and I don't like it and even like Sigs never 0.96

01:31:02.260 Jewel never it's so obvious 0.99

01:31:04.420 to me it's fucking 1.00

01:31:06.360 dog you can't 1.00

01:31:08.200 be dependent on something even so

01:31:10.160 take out the fact that tobacco is harming

01:31:12.360 you like nicotine you're still going for

01:31:14.380 something that's like drawing you to it

01:31:16.120 like most successful people

01:31:18.200 like you guys are not

01:31:20.180 consuming a drug that you need and like

01:31:22.100 oh I am though it's what is it 0.97

01:31:24.080 heroin no damn it makes 0.97

01:31:26.140 two of us I mean we all do it 0.86

01:31:27.840 in the past

01:31:28.280 at some point i did sponsored by heroin um no thanks for a sponsor you're an edgy guest

01:31:36.920 you're an edgy guest thank god and thank god you're an edgy guest because the last thing i 0.98

01:31:42.440 want is a fucking not edgy guest bro um coffee i mean dude i fucking drink coffee like a maniac 0.98

01:31:48.460 and instagram is my new dopamine fix dude i am on instagram whether there's something new on there 0.99

01:31:55.940 or not because my brain's telling me

01:31:57.600 get it dude get that thing

01:31:59.440 just one more scroll man

01:32:02.040 just one more scroll man

01:32:03.360 that's how I feel sometimes I have to catch my little

01:32:05.740 tweaker brain like

01:32:07.000 just check the DMs one more time maybe there's something

01:32:09.860 good in there maybe there's something new 1.00

01:32:11.180 he's so dumb dude 1.00

01:32:13.100 it's so dumb 1.00

01:32:14.120 I'm limiting my Instagram 0.98

01:32:17.080 usage I'm gonna go on my phone

01:32:19.560 because I've been on too much

01:32:21.600 it was designed to do this to our brains

01:32:24.080 It was designed to hook this part of ourselves that we have a hard time controlling.

01:32:28.520 For sure.

01:32:28.800 There's a book called Hooked, which teaches coders and developers how to do just that.

01:32:33.700 Exactly.

01:32:34.220 Hook a hack.

01:32:34.660 And get people addicted.

01:32:35.560 Someone's brain.

01:32:36.300 The biggest thing they ever put out that was the biggest hook is their way of making it

01:32:41.340 so like most people, they stop using drugs on any given occasion because they run out

01:32:46.980 of drugs.

01:32:47.620 Sure.

01:32:48.260 Instagram, YouTube, they've all mastered the fact that your scroll will just go until

01:32:53.180 eternity.

01:32:53.580 Try this.

01:32:54.080 try this not only set the usage but something that might help you is uh hiding hiding people's

01:32:59.240 what is you hide when they post mute type posts don't have it notify you right no no no no so

01:33:05.520 like i'll use mike as an example if i no longer want to see a post from mike but i still follow

01:33:09.740 him because like he's my boy but i don't care about what he's posting on social i can hide his

01:33:14.000 posts yeah so they disappear so i can see like right now i think i'm seeing posts like 50 people

01:33:18.820 which is nice keeps my scroll time low got it you know what i'm saying yeah i mean it's crazy

01:33:23.600 how fast all this is happening too

01:33:26.020 and like the teenagers

01:33:26.840 who are watching this

01:33:27.540 don't understand like

01:33:28.820 this is so new

01:33:31.200 and it's moving so quickly

01:33:32.640 like the Insta story

01:33:33.620 is only a year or two old

01:33:35.220 and I remember

01:33:35.980 when it first came out

01:33:36.700 I'm like 1.00

01:33:36.920 I don't want to look at that shit 0.99

01:33:38.160 now I'm scrolling through 1.00

01:33:39.840 Insta stories

01:33:40.360 I'm like

01:33:40.920 it's my TV

01:33:42.060 I'm like

01:33:42.360 what are my friends doing

01:33:43.500 boop boop boop boop

01:33:44.260 yeah

01:33:44.600 it's interesting

01:33:46.380 yeah it's interesting

01:33:47.280 hijack my brain dude

01:33:48.100 I'm addicted 0.67

01:33:48.900 they got me

01:33:50.340 it's over

01:33:50.760 by the way

01:33:51.260 Steve Jobs in the grave

01:33:52.740 you got me dude 0.99

01:33:53.580 I feel like everybody's got some fucking crutch, too. 0.99

01:33:56.580 Yeah, we all have some vice or some crutch. 0.99

01:33:59.500 What's my vice?

01:34:00.400 It just better be... 0.99

01:34:01.240 Yours is sex, bro. 1.00

01:34:03.120 Yours is sex. 1.00

01:34:03.700 Oh, wait, wait, wait. 0.99

01:34:04.160 Before we go.

01:34:04.940 I don't even have to think about it.

01:34:06.380 Before we go, tell me about this date.

01:34:07.460 Are you dating a grown woman with children?

01:34:09.780 Are you going to bail on this? 0.52

01:34:11.080 I'll just leave it. 1.00

01:34:12.440 Four children or four women with children? 1.00

01:34:14.900 Four women with children. 0.99

01:34:15.860 Four children with women. 0.99

01:34:18.160 You're dating a woman with four children. 1.00

01:34:20.360 I'm not... 0.98

01:34:20.940 I'm going on one date.

01:34:22.100 This is our first date.

01:34:23.120 yes it's tonight

01:34:23.900 but you know

01:34:25.720 yeah it's interesting

01:34:26.560 by the way

01:34:27.140 they know who she is

01:34:28.400 online

01:34:28.720 no you're lying

01:34:29.120 well this

01:34:29.920 our last podcast was out

01:34:31.440 while we were filming

01:34:32.560 this one

01:34:33.060 is it Kate Beckinsale

01:34:33.260 it's all over

01:34:34.240 twitter

01:34:34.920 is it Kate Beckinsale

01:34:36.580 bro you can't give

01:34:37.260 that many clues

01:34:38.100 she's the only

01:34:38.640 you gave too many clues 0.99

01:34:39.260 it's like 15 fucking clues 0.99

01:34:40.680 no no 0.99

01:34:41.640 it's not

01:34:42.140 it's not who you think

01:34:42.900 it's not who you think

01:34:43.680 you're all

01:34:44.140 and I've seen your

01:34:45.700 responses

01:34:46.200 and they're all wrong

01:34:47.080 it's not Kate Beckinsale

01:34:47.260 by the way

01:34:48.000 I talked to Kate Beckinsale

01:34:49.080 once

01:34:49.400 and when I was talking

01:34:50.320 to her though

01:34:50.760 no but when I was

01:34:51.420 talking to her bro

01:34:53.120 i could tell she was into younger dudes yeah it turns out i was right yeah i didn't know

01:34:58.140 when i was talking i was like i can't wait to meet her it's been way too friendly

01:35:02.180 all right so you're going on a first date how you feel man uh i feel good i'm confident i just

01:35:09.960 how long can i be like because with girls my age i'll crack a joke or be goofy or like cheesy a

01:35:16.620 little bit in a in a meta way like knowing i'm cheesy and like super self-aware type but how

01:35:23.000 long is i gonna last and and how do i how do how do i talk about anything that i do because she

01:35:31.060 probably doesn't know much about what she knows enough yeah she knows her because her smoking 1.00

01:35:36.180 hot daughter and whatever no no no more clues you fuck shit no more clues smoking hot daughters 1.00

01:35:42.000 also has a large incentive. 1.00

01:35:43.560 Oh my God.

01:35:45.220 Is her daughter your age?

01:35:47.240 She's like, yeah, pretty close.

01:35:48.540 The good thing is she's 47,

01:35:51.000 so she's not a digital native.

01:35:52.360 Stop with the blues.

01:35:53.780 You gave her exact age, Swetzer?

01:35:55.580 No. 0.99

01:35:56.340 Stop, stop.

01:35:57.400 Dude, we got to move on, bro.

01:35:58.720 No, I'm serious. 1.00

01:35:59.420 Your date's already fucked, 1.00

01:36:01.120 so we should move on 1.00

01:36:01.900 because it's already a bust.

01:36:03.540 We can leave all this out.

01:36:04.500 She's already reading about the date

01:36:05.720 you guys have tonight on Twitter right now.

01:36:07.720 All right, listen. 1.00

01:36:09.000 She's already getting tweets from the Logang. 1.00

01:36:10.900 You better treat him like a prince 1.00

01:36:14.740 Because we love him

01:36:15.740 If you hurt him 1.00

01:36:18.480 I'll slap the shit out of you 1.00

01:36:19.980 I'll come to your house, I'll beat you up 1.00

01:36:22.360 You jerk face 1.00

01:36:23.160 Sorry to make fun of you, Loggang 1.00

01:36:26.780 I didn't mean it, I love you 1.00

01:36:27.800 Also, I don't know if some of the Loggang 0.99

01:36:30.920 Watch this 0.62

01:36:31.500 But the Loggang's growing up

01:36:34.760 They're learning and I love them

01:36:37.220 But I'll tell you what

01:36:38.000 If anyone's still watching right now

01:36:40.620 at this one hour

01:36:41.440 and 48 minute mark 0.99

01:36:42.480 it's the fucking 0.99

01:36:43.380 Logan Cossie 1.00

01:36:44.840 they're like this

01:36:45.940 oh we're on this

01:36:46.340 long podcast

01:36:47.280 they're like

01:36:48.060 I wonder what he says

01:36:49.580 at the very very

01:36:50.360 very very very

01:36:51.200 end of the podcast

01:36:51.700 they want to know

01:36:52.260 everything about

01:36:53.140 bro I guarantee

01:36:54.440 in a week

01:36:55.600 Logan's gonna come home

01:36:56.780 with like

01:36:57.320 what one of those

01:36:58.300 polo like golf

01:36:59.420 button ups

01:37:00.140 he's gonna like 0.99

01:37:01.100 shit golf on 1.00

01:37:01.640 khaki pants 1.00

01:37:02.380 top side

01:37:03.480 he's gonna have khakis

01:37:04.520 and he's gonna really

01:37:05.500 be calling me Jimmy

01:37:06.320 hey Jimmy

01:37:07.180 hey

01:37:07.940 good to see you

01:37:08.640 hey Mike

01:37:09.040 you guys wanna go

01:37:10.140 catch a quick round of nine yeah catch a quick nine down the encino links oh i gotta hit the 0.99

01:37:16.040 early um i would i would love that how awesome would that be if i would just stop being a fuck 0.99

01:37:21.600 boy because this woman she changes me she changed my life i guarantee it's happening dude i guarantee 0.99

01:37:26.600 you know what i'm worried about last thing i'm gonna say

01:37:30.560 this one i don't know if this will fly i don't know if anyone's thought about this i like these

01:37:36.700 ones the tattoo oh wait what shoot dude we were talking about this this morning bro i was like

01:37:46.320 i was in i i think you're gonna get it removed at some oh god what do you have dude squirtle 0.99

01:37:53.020 next to his dick right like can you imagine this 47 year old beautiful ex cover girl 1.00

01:38:00.340 Stop! 1.00

01:38:01.120 They knew this.

01:38:01.760 I already said this.

01:38:02.480 I already said this.

01:38:03.760 They're having a conversation, and he's like,

01:38:05.820 and she kind of skews up on the age thing,

01:38:08.900 and he's like, I've had some pretty renowned guests on the show.

01:38:12.360 We've had Alex Jones and some other people,

01:38:14.540 and the conversation has been quite riveting most of the time.

01:38:17.640 She's like, wow, he's much more adult than I thought.

01:38:20.220 Let's go back to my place and fool around. 1.00

01:38:22.200 She pulls his pants down, and there's fucking Squirtle with sunglasses, 1.00

01:38:25.620 and she just flips out. 1.00

01:38:26.520 She's like, get the fuck out of my house, loser. 1.00

01:38:28.200 I hate you. 1.00

01:38:29.260 Or it works in your benefit.

01:38:30.860 She's like, I love Pokemon.

01:38:32.960 Oh, no, no, no.

01:38:34.380 No, I know what I'm going to do.

01:38:35.620 You got to find out if she likes Pokemon.

01:38:37.040 I'm going to lie.

01:38:38.520 I'm going to lie.

01:38:40.060 Yeah, that's always a good strategy.

01:38:42.060 I'm going to tell her it's an omen of a symbol that meant something very special to my grandmother. 0.99

01:38:50.080 Yo, say it's a fucking portrait of Kong, dude. 0.99

01:38:54.720 This is what my dog looks like. 1.00

01:38:56.000 This is a portrait of my dead dog.

01:38:57.200 He was eaten by coyotes.

01:38:58.100 It means a lot to me

01:38:59.180 And she'll be like

01:38:59.660 And then she's already down there

01:39:01.120 Why does he look like

01:39:02.080 A turtle with sunglasses

01:39:03.220 That's a cartoon

01:39:03.900 That's what he looked like

01:39:05.220 The tattoo artist

01:39:06.560 He was high

01:39:07.660 He was high 1.00

01:39:08.140 He was high on fucking acid 0.99

01:39:10.300 When he designed it 0.99

01:39:12.300 Yeah

01:39:13.120 I'm worried about it

01:39:14.940 Your date's busted

01:39:15.460 It's more of just like

01:39:16.360 A can I do it

01:39:17.180 Can I survive

01:39:17.840 Stay tuned

01:39:18.640 Hey can we go to the audio only

01:39:20.000 Let's do it

01:39:20.400 It's like this

01:39:20.940 But it's audio only 0.99

01:39:21.680 I got some juicy shit 0.99

01:39:22.360 For audio only 0.99

01:39:23.080 Wait what happens

01:39:24.360 There needs to be

01:39:24.960 Some sort of incentive

01:39:25.760 To get people to listen

01:39:26.820 To us on Spotify

01:39:27.600 on iTunes instead of just viewing us.

01:39:29.040 And today there's an actual reason because it is, I got some juicy 0.99

01:39:31.660 shit. Oh, fine. What is it? Do you want to maybe give them a hint 0.99

01:39:33.560 so we can get them over there? It's about

01:39:34.680 the mistake you made, the bad one. Okay.

01:39:37.260 It's something that seems kind of similar to it, but people

01:39:39.420 are just letting it roll out. Oh, I saw that.

01:39:41.540 Okay, cool. All right. So, audio only.

01:39:43.580 Bye, viewers. No, no,

01:39:45.500 but also, what are your socials?

01:39:47.280 Yes, guys. Thank you. Oh, what? What are my

01:39:49.280 socials? Social medias. You have it.

01:39:50.620 At Devin Work Harder.

01:39:52.860 W-E-R-K-H-A-R-D-E-R. Really? It's like my

01:39:55.300 last name, but work harder. Big facts.

01:39:56.980 and uh when's when's your tour day or your july 13th up uh at the mountain winery up near san jose

01:40:03.720 and then july 19th at the pearl theater in vegas very cool very cool and then i got crown vick

01:40:09.940 coming out at some point that's right that's right new movie new movie crown vick you don't

01:40:13.920 know when it's coming out yet no we don't have we don't know it yet but alec ball when producing

01:40:17.420 thomas jane leading in it uh i just play this i'm like a small role but i'm this gnarly little

01:40:21.840 character dude it's very cool fun um yeah crown vic i don't know okay cool that's what i got new

01:40:27.360 ep it's coming just follow my stuff keep your eyes peeled for crown vic can i see can i see what is

01:40:31.540 this this is this is bad audio only audio only all right we're going to switch over yes right

01:40:37.880 now it's about my day all right we're audio only bye we love you guys subscribe i don't even want

01:40:42.700 to pass this phone over to you bro oh this is just there wait you know i should i already know

01:40:48.220 what it's about. I already know what it's about.

01:40:50.240 Did they spam her Instagram?

01:40:53.140 Oh, Lord.

01:40:54.960 How bad is it?

01:40:56.640 I wish they could see us right now 0.98

01:40:58.540 because I am fucking flustered. 0.98

01:41:00.440 I want to see what's happening. 0.98

01:41:02.560 This is just...

01:41:04.180 No, no, no. Let me see.

01:41:05.940 Usually right now you would say the following.

01:41:08.400 Not like this.

01:41:09.980 Not like this? I got to stop exploiting my life.

01:41:12.600 Just let me see. I don't know if you want to.

01:41:15.160 Let me see. It's her last picture on Instagram

01:41:16.680 if you just simply scroll down.

01:41:18.220 Oh, no.

01:41:18.820 To the comments section.

01:41:20.720 Oh, no.

01:41:21.940 You'll notice that.

01:41:22.800 They did.

01:41:23.320 They're spamming her Instagram.

01:41:24.420 They found her.

01:41:24.960 Dude, that's what I said. 1.00

01:41:26.100 Your date's already fucked. 1.00

01:41:27.060 You're stupid for talking about it on here, dude. 1.00

01:41:28.800 You really need to be a little smarter 1.00

01:41:30.860 with what you're talking about.

01:41:33.040 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:41:35.080 So dumb. 1.00

01:41:36.060 I'm such a moron. 1.00

01:41:39.220 Wow. 1.00

01:41:39.800 No, no, no.

01:41:40.280 Well, the good thing is it's tonight.

01:41:42.020 It's not horrible.

01:41:43.000 Bro, she's older,

01:41:44.560 so she might not be checking out her Instagram, right?

01:41:47.480 Nice save, bro. 1.00

01:41:47.700 You almost had her with a fucking pearl necklace 1.00

01:41:49.480 as a librarian for a second there. 1.00

01:41:51.660 Well, I mean, she's old as folder, older. 0.99

01:41:55.420 Yo, quickly.

01:41:56.140 It's not horrible, but it's not.

01:41:57.740 No, this is incredible.

01:41:58.260 You just gotta go now to the date.

01:42:01.080 But also, yo, if it's gonna work between us,

01:42:03.720 don't you think there's gonna be a point

01:42:05.720 where I'm gonna be like, hey,

01:42:07.200 in general, I say some things.

01:42:09.580 Yeah.

01:42:10.420 Yeah, this is a good way of testing the water

01:42:12.320 right off the bat.

01:42:13.520 Listen, I'll be honest with you.

01:42:14.420 I know you would have expected some discretion out of me

01:42:17.200 since we're all adults here,

01:42:18.360 but here's something you should know about me.

01:42:20.500 I don't exercise any discretion whatsoever.

01:42:22.880 So anything we do is going to get aired out.

01:42:24.980 If it doesn't get aired out by me, 1.00

01:42:26.240 it will be my asshole best friend 0.99

01:42:28.100 that I tell things to in confidence. 1.00

01:42:29.860 That airs everything out on fucking the show. 0.99

01:42:32.160 Every single ex-girlfriend I've ever had 0.99

01:42:34.460 either comes after me or me to Mike

01:42:38.240 because he is so explicit with what he says

01:42:40.660 about their relationship with me.

01:42:42.240 They hate me and they hate Mike.

01:42:44.460 They demand apologies.

01:42:45.760 and I'm willing to offer him because I love ex-girlfriends

01:42:48.800 I can't because he's my boy

01:42:50.760 dude and also when he brings it up

01:42:52.620 part of me even though I know it's going to ruin my life

01:42:54.820 is like I'm a self-sabotaging masochist 1.00

01:42:57.020 sometimes I gotta tell him shit 0.99

01:42:58.360 it's kind of funny and fun to you 0.99

01:42:59.560 yeah it's like a game

01:43:01.040 I'm sure it's fine

01:43:02.820 she sent me a selfie

01:43:04.660 oh wait no it's not a selfie

01:43:07.280 just now? oh wow

01:43:09.120 was that just now? gorgeous

01:43:11.040 just now

01:43:12.700 because I sent her a selfie

01:43:15.220 Send a selfie of all of us

01:43:18.040 I don't know about that

01:43:18.960 Wait send it

01:43:20.680 You should send her one of me

01:43:24.300 Because I'm working with her right now

01:43:26.080 This is the dude you're talking to on the love sack account

01:43:29.020 I'm literally doing a deal

01:43:30.840 Really

01:43:31.860 You're talking to her?

01:43:33.920 Yes

01:43:34.220 Hey can we silence that name?

01:43:39.780 Can you mark the time?

01:43:41.200 Can you please silence that? 1.00

01:43:42.540 She said my daughter's shit just came 0.99

01:43:43.940 and now I need stuff 1.00

01:43:45.800 for my newly renovated home

01:43:47.660 in blank city

01:43:49.260 of outside Los Angeles area.

01:43:51.720 I hate this.

01:43:52.680 Can we stop?

01:43:53.220 Yeah.

01:43:53.560 Should we talk about

01:43:54.440 should we talk about something else?

01:43:56.100 Yeah, talk about the juicy thing.

01:43:57.660 Nothing but a train wreck.

01:43:58.440 Yeah, you're right.

01:43:58.860 He has a thing.

01:44:00.260 I got it.

01:44:00.700 Hey, you got a thing?

01:44:01.260 I want everybody to take a deep breath.

01:44:02.180 You got fresh hot facts?

01:44:03.240 It's actually sad. 1.00

01:44:04.840 Fuck. 1.00

01:44:08.400 There's a migration issue 1.00

01:44:09.860 at the border right now.

01:44:11.700 Oh, yeah.

01:44:13.940 A picture is circulating online right now of a father and daughter who drowned trying to swim across a river to cross the border.

01:44:25.500 Yeah.

01:44:27.080 It's very sad.

01:44:29.000 It's horrible to look at.

01:44:31.180 But the conversation that I think arises out of it is, what gives the right to news media outlets to show a picture of a dead child when a picture or an image of video that Logan shows is detrimental to his career?

01:44:55.180 And by the way, I'm not saying one, I'm not saying anything, I'm asking.

01:44:59.600 Yeah, can I answer because I'm outside of you guys?

01:45:02.160 Yes.

01:45:02.520 That's so different, man.

01:45:04.100 Those are journalists exposing a very serious humanitarian crisis at the bottom.

01:45:09.040 For sure.

01:45:09.720 Those are journalists needing a photo to show something that's happening

01:45:14.960 that people aren't active to, and it's horrible.

01:45:21.020 This is not a nice picture.

01:45:22.020 He was in the middle of his flaw.

01:45:23.980 Like, that's just a whole different thing.

01:45:26.820 Is the outcome, just out of curiosity, is the outcome the same?

01:45:29.600 awareness to a specific topic what is it what's the um um do you know what i'm saying like his

01:45:36.120 video got you know millions and millions and millions of views and people said wow suicide's

01:45:39.740 bad that's a major problem it's especially a problem here in japan yeah ben and i don't know

01:45:45.400 to me nah there's there's such a difference in in in even the way it's like this is delivered on

01:45:50.320 like serious news media saying this is horrible and here guys here is our problem that's not being

01:45:57.140 solved um like logan just happened to stumble across something thought as far as i know you

01:46:03.880 thought you were putting it out sensitively but like it's getting put up on a vlog with like

01:46:08.480 goofy shit it's so hard i mean it's like a different it's so hard to even just yeah i don't 0.82

01:46:12.940 speaking on it now is i can't even yeah to me i know like to me they're very different yeah no 0.98

01:46:17.920 you're i think i think you're absolutely right i would have said the same thing but the reason i

01:46:21.240 bring the question up just for a little context is it's a question that's being asked in the

01:46:24.980 community on twitter and so like i'm just speaking well that yeah i will say i think that's a really

01:46:29.560 good answer i think it is the answer for sure but the photo itself is something that absolutely

01:46:34.500 deserves a conversation the kids less than a year old this is crazy this is not a not a great image

01:46:41.680 yeah no it's pretty horrifying oh my god i mean life's gnarly guys like it's really this is so

01:46:47.240 what's the takeaway here does anyone have a no i mean the biggest i mean to his point the biggest

01:46:52.100 takeaway is well they're saying that it's dangerous for people to just to give a little

01:46:57.080 bit of context there the reason why that happened is because there's a lot of legislation from what

01:47:02.940 i've read that is making it harder for people to cross legally you know safer areas so they're

01:47:09.980 forced to do more dangerous means of crossing uh over to the border the biggest takeaway i think

01:47:17.380 is that there is a problem i think i've to your point of us being lackadaisical about the issue

01:47:24.200 at the border things like this similar to you know the guy in front of the tank similar to

01:47:31.140 you know the dude who set himself on fire they not at the white house the the was it a monk or

01:47:37.340 some shit a while ago all those images that finally started a revolution around a certain 0.91

01:47:41.920 social issue is this the one that's going to make people wake up and say yo this is this can't happen 0.96

01:47:47.600 i don't think so the people who are awake are awake and the people who have lost their or who

01:47:53.340 aren't interested in their own humanity are the way they are like like this is a the same thing

01:47:58.420 logan got the reason people are upset because it felt like dude like this is human like this is

01:48:03.540 so much sadder than

01:48:05.520 it's

01:48:07.520 being portrayed

01:48:09.480 like the reason this is

01:48:11.660 such a big legislative issue

01:48:13.700 is because people aren't seeing

01:48:15.200 these immigrants as human 0.63

01:48:17.600 like these people are running 1.00

01:48:19.680 from El Salvador, it's one of the most dangerous 1.00

01:48:21.460 countries in the world, they are desperate 1.00

01:48:23.840 and desperate humans will

01:48:25.760 do anything to survive

01:48:27.460 even if it's moving into something a little

01:48:29.680 less dangerous than what they're in now

01:48:31.520 And our entire administration and country is like failing on that level of, yes, we can't let just everyone into the country without whatever, some sort of processing, but treating them as like criminals.

01:48:49.660 These are desperate, sad people in really hard situations trying to come to us in America because we have some semblance of, like, maybe safety or justice or help.

01:49:03.400 And it's become not that.

01:49:05.800 Beyond the guy and the daughter in the river, like, there's children.

01:49:10.920 And this is new to this administration.

01:49:13.320 There are children being separated from their parents.

01:49:16.200 They've already been separated, put into insane conditions, not being looked after.

01:49:21.500 And the argument on the other side is, well, did they come here illegally?

01:49:25.760 That's not that that's irrelevant, dude.

01:49:28.360 Are they humans?

01:49:29.460 Are they children? 1.00

01:49:31.160 Dude, trauma in early childhood, this shit is going to affect these kids for the rest 0.99

01:49:35.780 of their life, like not their economic status, but it is going to affect how they move through 0.99

01:49:41.000 the world because they've been removed from their parents and being like fed by strangers 0.99

01:49:46.120 and not being allowed to shower being like this shit is insane i'm like this country is it makes 0.99

01:49:52.840 me so sad sometimes and the people in it losing their humanity over a political issue we had eric 0.99

01:49:59.360 weinstein on yesterday two days ago and we talked a lot about interplanetary space travel okay and

01:50:08.800 we talked about the end of the earth and at one point we're gonna have to vacate this planet

01:50:14.720 potentially sure if we just yeah sure sure bear with the sure the analogy we may have to vacate

01:50:22.560 this earth for a more hospitable planet and i said he's had a lot to say about the border

01:50:29.140 and i said imagine the planet is burning everyone you know is dead you have found a place on the

01:50:38.640 last ship out you get somewhere you can't ever go back and when you get to the new planet the

01:50:45.820 border patrol stops you takes your kid from you puts your kid in a cage

01:50:49.840 like i think people here in america have so much trouble can with empathy yeah with imagining

01:51:03.080 them in that position for even a second like imagine you and your daughter

01:51:07.700 crawling away from cartels that are trying to kill you yeah to swim through a river with all

01:51:15.000 of your belongings on your back to just say to just try to get help and then having the people

01:51:21.860 at the at the border say well first of all some of the people don't even make it but then having

01:51:27.440 the people at the border say like you you we don't have a plan in place for you you need to go back

01:51:32.040 we cannot help you in any way yeah you are not allowed here we can't do anything for you yeah

01:51:36.500 and they fail to understand that like these are parents who just want their kids to live

01:51:41.940 if they listen to you they die yeah if they say okay trump trump administration whoever i'll just

01:51:47.660 i'll just turn back that's me that's committing suicide yeah and no one's gonna do that yeah i 0.96

01:51:54.140 think what i what i feel is like people in america like to think we live in a democracy

01:52:00.780 and i think we live in a corporatocracy where there's this go go go buy buy buy sell sell sell

01:52:10.220 where like where are we going like what's the purpose behind it like create create do do do

01:52:16.600 and like we can't slow down and work together as a whole to solve issues right now yeah like that's

01:52:22.940 a very dangerous space to be there's issue it's so dangerous there's so many issues that are more

01:52:27.920 than economic that like that's not the most important thing to a society or just our species 0.81

01:52:32.740 and doing this to people who are desperate like they're not fucking criminals um i'm 34 and and 0.68

01:52:39.960 i talked about my age a little bit before but i don't remember a time in my entire life where i 0.91

01:52:48.660 was as kind of just disgusted with the the track the track this country was on yeah man i i am i

01:52:56.500 am for multiple reasons not just the border there was never a time under any other presidency under

01:53:01.940 any other and by the way i'm not pointing all the blame at the president or at the administration or

01:53:06.200 anything yeah just as the the way we as a people have divided the way that we as a people have

01:53:11.500 taken sides and decided to discount being good to other people in the name of more money in your pot

01:53:20.120 like i've i am quite disgusted by the current trajectory of things and uh the empathy thing

01:53:27.640 is so weird because if if a woman showed up at on your door with a kid and they were crying

01:53:35.760 and covered in dirt and they were like i need help can i have some water like you would do it 0.94

01:53:45.500 You would help them.

01:53:47.020 You think so.

01:53:47.780 But that's, you think so.

01:53:49.080 The majority of the people who I even think are against this issue, I think would.

01:53:53.240 Yeah.

01:53:53.880 Because when it's actually in front of you, like, oh, that's a person I need to help right now. 0.97

01:54:00.000 But seeing the image, it's just like this fucking talking point for some people. 0.96

01:54:05.560 Like it's their stance and their, no, well, did they come here illegally? 0.99

01:54:09.560 Well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:54:11.240 If you say that, you tell me to like be easy with like making,

01:54:15.500 statements yeah if you see that like rock solid statement without any like absolutely like it

01:54:21.040 with no chance of swaying if you see that picture and the first thing that you think of is see if 1.00

01:54:26.940 the left would have done this or the right would have done that you are a scumbag you're a piece 1.00

01:54:35.620 of shit if the first thing you think of when you see a dad and a daughter drowning to death trying 1.00

01:54:41.020 to find a place to live is your first thought is how you know like this is some other party's fault 1.00

01:54:47.960 like yeah or even worse their fault for not doing it the legal way you are a piece of shit well no 1.00

01:54:55.000 you need if that's your first thought like you actually need to pause and like take a step back 1.00

01:55:00.140 and like evaluate your life i'm not kidding if you don't see that photo and immediately just go 0.99

01:55:03.880 like just get heartbroken like it's just sad it's just sad no matter what yeah fucking party you 0.86

01:55:09.320 think you're you're in like it's sad to look at and if that's not your first response like 0.97

01:55:13.560 dude you gotta go check out your life yeah i think you gotta go address things these kind

01:55:19.000 of conversations motivate me though because um there's something like we can do something about

01:55:24.060 it i think that's what's cool is i've seen kids and younger people in other countries all over

01:55:29.860 the world solve real life issues because older generations just some of them just let's be 0.99

01:55:35.440 honest they suck and they don't they broke a bunch of shit and they handed down their bill to us and 0.99

01:55:40.620 they're like hey you guys got to cover it because we're about to die and you got to pay for us to 1.00

01:55:44.260 die like no there's a system like we as young people we need to work together and we need to 0.97

01:55:50.920 actually do shit like find something that you're passionate about like if if it's about the border 0.98

01:55:57.860 not everybody's going to be passionate about it because maybe we don't live there yeah but if you 0.99

01:56:02.320 are passionate about something and you see it you were affected by it do something about it yeah do

01:56:07.940 it and don't stop there is a young generation like where there's like young young scientist

01:56:12.980 kids like inventing new ways to clean up the ocean like there's these there's these young

01:56:17.040 teenagers suing the government for the climate crisis and saying like you're affecting my life

01:56:23.040 like this is actual this is a case that's going through um so young people are getting more active

01:56:29.380 And I think that's really important.

01:56:32.460 So like where I take my responsibility

01:56:34.940 is doing these college talks.

01:56:36.500 It's like, okay, well,

01:56:37.300 what do I have credibility in talking in?

01:56:39.360 And how do I think I can actually connect

01:56:41.160 to my audience and help them

01:56:44.180 or just support them in some way?

01:56:46.900 And for me, it's getting in the rooms with them

01:56:48.300 and talking to them about this stuff,

01:56:50.400 saying, hey, grief is universal

01:56:52.500 and we don't talk about it.

01:56:53.760 Like we're all grieving

01:56:54.680 and you need to know how to move through that healthier. 0.96

01:56:56.480 It's gonna fuck up the rest of your life.

01:56:57.540 Like talking about this stuff,

01:56:59.380 is my act it's it's how i get active on it and i think uh just encouraging young people to not

01:57:06.180 only turn to media to escape like don't only chase entertainment or fame or getting out of

01:57:13.440 your boredom like there's plenty to care about and and get knowledgeable on at least and i think

01:57:20.140 tons of young people are doing this it's amazing 100 question question for you personally logan

01:57:26.660 because i see like what we talked about with the podcast and you know the the platform we do have

01:57:31.520 and a lot of people come in and out of the doors and they're like challenging us you know especially

01:57:35.480 logan because of the platform he has so when you see stuff like this do you uh think about how you

01:57:44.040 could use your platform to to lead something and the reason why i ask is because when you look at

01:57:49.380 entertainers or celebrities or other people all in the world you're one person who actually has

01:57:55.380 a one-of-a-kind stance right now like you aren't relying on a brand you're turning down a hundred 0.91

01:58:02.040 thousand dollars a quarter million dollars like you're turning shit down because you're like no

01:58:06.420 i'm just going to create that myself i think that that is i i would really love to see a list of 0.93

01:58:13.560 people who have the same opportunity as you because i think that list is very small so okay

01:58:17.880 this is a great question and i and i have and i have a what i think is a great answer and i maybe

01:58:21.840 you could speak on it uh so so obviously yes yes anytime i can use my platform to help

01:58:29.720 anything that i uh believe in or want to get behind it's a it's a blessing and i'm incredibly

01:58:35.740 thankful that i can do that and by the way i think it does indeed provide a lot of good for the world

01:58:40.320 because that's at the end of the day what i'm trying to do with all my content

01:58:43.480 however at the same token authenticity is something that i to my core that's what i try

01:58:51.160 to do with my content and by the way i think that's why it works so if i'm not a hundred percent

01:58:56.920 authentic or genuine or believing in a cause is is are people going to sniff that out is logan

01:59:06.380 paul doing it because it looks good and it's a good pr stunt is there's going to be so much

01:59:12.880 scrutiny behind it and by the way like yes maybe i should suck it up sometimes and do things

01:59:19.780 uh philanthropic wise that sometimes may not be so true to me but i i would much rather prefer that

01:59:27.660 if it's involving humankind and humanitarian work it does mean something to me like when we went to

01:59:32.540 watts i think it was pretty evident for everyone on our team like something about hanging out with

01:59:36.680 the kids at watts i really enjoy yeah you know and but i've also done work where uh i won't say

01:59:44.460 what it is but i i am doing it i'm like wow this is great i'm doing a good thing but i don't really

01:59:49.580 enjoy it it does the motions it's going through the motions and it's i mean and i'm doing good

01:59:53.220 by the way the answer might be to like swallow that pill sometimes because like that's the

01:59:56.680 responsibility i take responsibility i take as a creator but i don't know because just my last

02:00:02.420 point is um i just feel when you look back on every generation there's there's like a movement

02:00:09.420 that took place that was like boom that was like their thing yeah and um i look at our generation

02:00:15.560 and we really don't have that thing quite yet i think we have we have so many so many of the

02:00:21.320 things there's so many problems we're being faced with but there's there isn't one movement that's

02:00:26.440 like hey okay we're gonna solve it all we're gonna empower all millennials clean the ocean

02:00:30.880 i think i think that's where climate change is the biggest one yeah and i'm curious what you

02:00:36.300 guys think is that yeah so you think it's climate change uh yeah but among so many mental health

02:00:41.600 like there's so many that are if there's so many societal problems if we can crack that mental

02:00:46.900 health code that's gonna be huge and i believe we can i believe i believe we can i i loved your

02:00:51.860 question on because like i think about this on like we what are like how do i best use my platform

02:00:58.260 for both like connecting to an audience promoting myself and like maybe helping or supporting

02:01:05.400 causes and you have such a bigger following than i do so i don't know what it would be like at that

02:01:09.960 level but there's also some times where like like i'm not posting about the border every day because

02:01:15.120 sometimes for me like posting about it on social media just feels like shouting into the dark like

02:01:21.120 it's like a post isn't doing anything for you you have a bigger following so like maybe it's doing

02:01:29.320 a little more but like a post is so fucking like fickle yeah it's just i don't know and i think

02:01:36.600 that's and i think that's the point he was making before too where it was like he catches scrutiny 0.63

02:01:41.080 when he yeah when he does anything marries himself to these like small individual causes that don't

02:01:47.000 matter to him and so i think i think he logan will get to a point in his career and in his life where

02:01:54.860 the the the value of other lives or animals or whatever matters to him more than it does

02:02:01.520 currently i'm not saying it doesn't sorry let me rephrase that i'm not saying that it doesn't

02:02:06.160 but I know what you're saying

02:02:08.700 but where he really 0.99

02:02:10.260 what the fuck are you trying to do man 0.95

02:02:11.440 but where he really wants to promote like a cause 1.00

02:02:13.860 so what you're saying is Logan doesn't care about

02:02:16.360 humans or animals that's what I got from this

02:02:18.140 you heard it here

02:02:18.880 I really do

02:02:21.360 I'm just kidding

02:02:22.900 he said care about more than I do now because I've

02:02:26.000 said this before I'm in a bit of a selfish phase

02:02:28.280 of my life

02:02:28.600 hold on hold on let me

02:02:30.440 that's wrong even that was worded wrong

02:02:33.080 and I know you're joking around but let me try to get this out the right way

02:02:35.800 please what i meant was i think at some point he will be aligned with a cause that really means a

02:02:42.880 lot to him that comes more with time and life experience and getting older and you know um

02:02:49.000 yeah yeah and i i mean i do think there i do think there is this false um i think a lot of people

02:02:55.640 feel like they're active because they're posting about yeah yeah for sure and like yeah cool like

02:03:01.660 raise awareness but like most of the people who need to most of the people who care about these

02:03:07.580 issues already know so you're like you're just feeding into the people who already know like

02:03:12.980 actual activism looks way different and actual philanthropy looks way different than posting

02:03:19.740 about a charity except like you do have a following where like yes your influence is 0.96

02:03:23.780 on a post is more than mine so like you can create a little more fucking something 0.55

02:03:29.040 around 12 well i mean like active but if think about activist is about activating right like 0.85

02:03:33.400 it's about activating so if you post one instagram story about dirty water in malaysia yeah people

02:03:39.820 are gonna they're not gonna be activated by it but if he makes but when he marries a cause which

02:03:44.640 he will and by the way it may be water it may clean water it may be climate who knows what

02:03:48.840 it's gonna be maybe mental health when he marries into it and gets a love for himself he'll start

02:03:53.080 driving that messaging in a way that activates people right what i feel is that it doesn't have

02:03:58.920 to be one cause for sure like what you're saying is activate those other people to do those causes

02:04:04.800 i what i feel is like a big need above mental health above anything is to get to the point where

02:04:12.320 people here in the united states can actually take back control away from our government if

02:04:20.640 that makes sense like we like the government is deciding what goes on and the majority of us are

02:04:27.800 like no this is not what we want so i think there's a space for us to actually create that

02:04:33.580 to create use technology to actually create the movement of people to decide what happens i mean

02:04:40.760 it's kind of happening but also for me and that some people think like well just less government

02:04:45.600 than maybe or just an actual government that's accountable accountable and chosen by the people

02:04:54.140 like we have less democracy now uh than before there's not that many people vote our percentages

02:04:59.500 are ridiculous we well that's what i'm saying is like politicians make it harder to vote like

02:05:04.100 think about being able to hop on your phone and vote yeah it would be amazing why aren't we able 0.91

02:05:10.080 to do that it's probably more secure than the polling station yeah it would be amazing which

02:05:14.820 i think like the united states is such a powerful country so you know without going into it anymore

02:05:19.680 yeah but it would be huge if young people yeah got actually had a voice and the voice mattered 0.99

02:05:25.120 and i think but they got to go vote to do that to start and then just create shit in your 0.99

02:05:29.900 communities but it's just hard to without it's hard to vote though when both candidates suck 0.98

02:05:35.240 you don't even want to vote you don't want to perpetuate either voting matters i get out there

02:05:39.700 vote kids i do agree with that although welcome to life welcome to life dude it's not always

02:05:47.380 a great option and a shitty option that's clear like welcome to growing up and being an adult

02:05:54.020 it's almost like it's almost like when you're at a music festival and there's a nice bush 0.98

02:05:57.840 and a dirty porta potty neither of the situations great i don't want to shit in a bush or in a 0.99

02:06:03.140 shit filled how do you shit in a bush dude that's impressive i'll pee in a bush i don't 1.00

02:06:07.820 know how you shit in a bush or even next to one okay i'm just saying or you just shit your pants 1.00

02:06:12.780 i've done that that's your third option like sometimes life is that sometimes it's multiple 1.00

02:06:18.000 shitty choices and you gotta make the best one so you shit your pants uh topic change have have 0.99

02:06:26.000 any of you guys shit your pants as adults so i'll be honest with you i shit my pants on the 0.99

02:06:29.880 show before oh great great so we're all on the same page yeah man that's that's everyone here 0.98

02:06:35.180 Good. Did good.

02:06:37.780 Just making sure we're all humans. 0.78

02:06:39.760 We've all shit our pants as adults. 0.91

02:06:41.280 Apparently that's a thing. 0.70

02:06:42.500 I mean, it's going to happen.

02:06:45.020 We're all going to get it wrong at some point.

02:06:47.780 Oh, it's a vegan thing because you guys 0.84

02:06:48.980 poop more frequently. I get it.

02:06:50.580 No, I shit my pants when I was eating meat still. 1.00

02:06:54.260 Needy shits. 0.99

02:06:55.080 It was hot dogs and Cheez-Its. 1.00

02:06:57.700 Sounds like a bit of a personal problem.

02:06:59.700 It was after a week at Burning Man.

02:07:01.080 Yes, yes, it is a personal problem.

02:07:03.340 yo that's it

02:07:05.160 that's it

02:07:05.780 no no guys

02:07:06.420 let me tell you 1.00

02:07:06.900 about my shit story 1.00

02:07:07.560 no please 0.99

02:07:09.340 Devin thank you again bro

02:07:10.800 let me describe the consistent

02:07:11.140 okay

02:07:11.580 no I appreciate you for real

02:07:13.720 yeah it's been

02:07:14.860 it's been good

02:07:15.540 at Devin work harder

02:07:16.460 on Instagram

02:07:16.980 social media

02:07:17.560 of course brother

02:07:18.180 of course

02:07:18.640 that's it dude

02:07:19.580 the greatest five stars

02:07:20.400 we'll see you next time

02:07:21.120 Spotify iTunes

02:07:21.800 bye

02:07:22.060 bye

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