Jivan Mangat, interim leader of the Wildrose Independence Party of Alberta, joins the show to talk about a big day on May 3rd, when the party will hold a rally in support of Alberta's independence from Canada.
00:00:00.040Hi, it's John and welcome to the channel. Great to have you along. It is 6.09 p.m. April the 23rd.
00:00:06.380You're going to be seeing this on the 24th early in the morning. I do have my big blue mug of coffee.
00:00:12.000Enjoying it tonight. It is tasting oh so sweet. And as you can see, I've got my Wexit hat on today because this is some big news, folks.
00:00:20.480We want you to share this with as many people as possible. If you're in Alberta, let people know about this.
00:00:27.980And I'd like to welcome to the channel once again, Jivan Mangat, who is the interim leader of the Wild Rose Independence Party of Alberta.
00:00:37.720Jivan, great to have you here today with some exciting news.
00:00:41.680Yes, John, this is very exciting for me and for others.
00:00:46.860And thank you for inviting me onto your channel and speaking about this event that we will be holding on May the 3rd.
00:00:53.380So let me ask you, how long have you been involved in the independence movement, Jivan, before we give people all the details on what's happening on the 3rd of May?
00:01:01.280Well, not to give my age away, but I've been, you know, thinking about independence since Trudeau introduced the National Energy Program in 1982.
00:01:13.940And I've never, ever thought politically until at that point because I just finished university and Pierre Trudeau introduces this horrific policy that totally favors Quebec and Ontario, mainly, mainly Quebec, trying to kill the industry in Alberta.
00:01:33.360And in 1982, when he introduced the program and the export taxes started to kick in, the companies left within a week.
00:02:08.160Well, you know, I wasn't in Alberta at the time, but I know I've been here for over for the last 10 years, 12 years now.
00:02:14.820And the Liberal Party has been strangling our province and put us in the situation we're in right now.
00:02:20.120I think with Donald Trump, I put the blame on them.
00:02:22.100We wouldn't be at the whim of Trump in the United States right now if it wasn't for the Liberals.
00:02:27.140And a big part of that has been strangling our oil and gas, our industry, and sucking the lifeblood out of Alberta to feed the rest of the country.
00:02:34.580So I haven't been involved in this very long.
00:02:36.980I've said on this channel, Jeevan, a number of times that Alberta independence is closer than you think.
00:02:58.260And we're hoping before 3 o'clock it's over, maximum time we're aligning ourselves as an hour and a half.
00:03:04.800And we're just spreading the word starting today.
00:03:08.540We just got our speakers lined up and we just made our poster announcement.
00:03:14.000So we're spreading it out on social media, hopefully to get, you know, as maybe five, six hundred people there, which will be great.
00:03:22.420And in my opinion, no matter who wins, you know, Pierre Paulyac could win.
00:03:27.040But it will not change anything for our burdens.
00:03:31.640We will be burdened with supply management, with equalization payments, with bilingualism, with no triple E Senate.
00:03:40.120Any policy the Liberals introduce, and the Conservatives have to cater to the Laurentian elites to stay in power.
00:03:48.600Otherwise, there'll be a very short term for them, and it could be a minority government.
00:03:53.260I would think that independence is closer if the Liberals get in again, seeing what I just mentioned about the last 10 years.
00:04:00.400So I think probably, and we don't want to wish the worst on the rest of Canada, because I think the Liberals are going to be a nightmare for them.
00:04:07.940But certainly, independence will be closer if the Liberals get in again.
00:04:56.040And this is one of the ideas that, you know, this is why we're having the rally, is to ensure this movement, this momentum keeps on and on.
00:05:07.400And, you know, maybe the momentum will be a little less if Kaliyev got selected.
00:05:15.300It's going to be a lot more if the Liberals get elected because people have seen the policies they've introduced since 2015.
00:07:05.960And then we also have the great Michael Wagner.
00:07:11.360And Michael, as you know, is a historian.
00:07:14.720An Alberta historian, an Alberta historian, has written three books on Alberta's separation.
00:07:20.660The two books I have is Alberta's separation then and now.
00:07:24.440A great book gives you the history of separation in Alberta, why it occurred, and what the failures have been in the past, and what should not fail in the future.
00:07:37.460He, Michael, is an independent researcher and writer, and a columnist for the Western Standard.
00:09:08.720And of course, I mean, a lot of the stars of the day will be the people that show up.
00:09:13.580You know, if you're an Albertan and you're watching this channel right now, the last video we did, G-Van, we had, I don't know, 70,000 people watched it, which was quite amazing.
00:09:21.680But if you're an Albertan and you're interested and you can be there that day, let me know in the comments below.
00:09:25.560That would give us some idea of what the interest is in this.
00:09:28.920But we need as many people out there as possible who are interested in Alberta independence.
00:09:32.820And we want some people who are Canadians, who consider themselves Canadians as well.
00:09:36.620So, we can convince you it's time to get out.
00:09:40.780You know, what's the old saying, those that don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it?
00:09:45.280Well, you said you were back in 1982 during the National Energy Program.
00:09:49.640That's quite a pass that's going back over 40 years.
00:09:51.940I think it's time we get a little respect here in Alberta and, well, big change could be coming and it's starting on May 3rd.
00:10:02.460And, John, no change occurs without risk and courage.
00:10:09.580And, you know, you need to have courage to think about a paradigm shift that will occur in your lifetime in this country.
00:10:19.360And I often think about pioneers that came to this great province.
00:10:26.240They, you know, they built their own homes.
00:10:28.600They made sure they grew their own food, fed themselves.
00:10:31.820Some were dropped here in minus 40 weather.
00:10:35.860They had to wait out all winter before they could start their life.
00:10:40.180So, in honor of pioneers that left out this great province, we need to leave a greater province for our children and grandchildren so they are not mired into the politics of trying to satisfy the Laurentian elites.
00:12:27.380I went out six, seven years ago, and there were more than 1,000 people who popped out on a cold day in North Calgary to talk about independence.
00:12:36.160I think we should have a lot of people at the legislature that day.
00:12:39.620G-Van, thank you so much for being part of this.
00:12:42.020Thanks very much for being on the channel.
00:12:44.100Again, thanks for inviting me to be there as well.