00:15:46.640A bunch of truckers parked their trucks in one city with bouncy castles, no less, and they invoked the Emergencies Act for that without even speaking to them.
00:15:56.620When you got five or 600,000 people who are all saying the same thing, that's going to look like an insurrection to them.
00:16:02.720Now, we talked about this a few minutes ago.
00:16:05.760I think it's a vastly different situation.
00:16:08.640The truckers were away from home, in their trucks, in a foreign city, a strange city,
00:18:24.780And I know there's a white paper being worked on.
00:18:26.700i know you're part of that is there any any update on that is anybody going to because i know there's
00:18:32.140a lot of people looking looking for that yeah so um so i'm i'm co-lead for development of the
00:18:38.860white paper with keith wilson so i'm spending most of my days dealing with the team that's
00:18:43.900actually pulling it together now people say oh it's very complicated it's very difficult there's
00:18:48.300actually about 19 areas that be dealt with things like taxation things like policing things like
00:18:55.900pensions none of them are new to world there's not one thing that has to be recreated for alberta that
00:19:02.860has not that is not already done in canada today we're just trying to figure out what the right
00:19:08.300solution is for alberta the other thing with transition planning people immediately start
00:19:12.780to land about this is going to be what's the long-term plan for currency what's the long-term
00:19:19.260outlook for military long term we're not planning for that that is the job of the future legislature
00:19:25.100and that is their job to say what the long term is we're covering the period of time from when we
00:19:32.140win the referendum until a constitutional conference is held a new government is elected
00:19:37.780and they begin putting in the policies and laws required to operate the nation long term so we're
00:19:44.060we're scaffolding we're bridging the gap from winning that referendum till the new government
00:19:48.440being fully in force now one of the things we are developing is the model for the constitutional
00:19:53.920conference that is how do you handle transition authority and it's obviously danielle and the
00:20:00.400ucp presuming they're in power will be a big part of that because they are the government in power
00:20:06.000at the time of in the we win the referendum it covers that it also covers what's the method by
00:20:12.160which we choose the constitutional model we want to use in this country is it a republic is it a
00:20:20.240westminster system like matt says or as a bruce party's you know very strong libertarian outlook
00:20:27.600that's not for us to decide it's not for keith to decide me to decide we're going to put the tools
00:20:32.960in place to say let the people decide what the constitution should be and then let the people
00:20:39.200choose the leaders under that new constitution and let those leaders and those elected representatives
00:20:44.880make the decisions for the long term so it's not rocket science and there isn't a question on that
00:20:49.760list you just mentioned a minute ago that doesn't have a clear and simple answer yeah well that
00:20:54.720isn't that how it's supposed to be though it's supposed to be democracy or isn't the people
00:20:58.640supposed to decide and it's funny how you know the roadblocks that people are putting up and saying
00:21:03.440you don't have an answer for this that or the other thing they're totally oblivious to the fact
00:21:07.600that albertans people who are here people who voted you know that that we want we are for an
00:21:13.200independent nation um we're actually going to have a voice like like they're against that it's it's
00:21:18.400insane. It's insane how people don't understand that the whole point of this is to create a
00:21:24.420country that is not Canada. But we don't hate Canada. No. I don't hate Canadians. At all. And
00:21:29.680you know, I just don't see a way out of this anymore. And this is where we are. Yeah. And
00:21:35.180maybe two things. Finishing up on the transition plan a little bit. So just want to give a bit of
00:21:42.320background. We are writing those papers, roughly 19 subject areas. They're going to be reviewed by
00:21:47.720people who know the area. In many cases, they're written by subject matter experts. So it's not
00:21:52.520Dennis and Keith madly writing away in a dark corner somewhere. It's guys who know the subject
00:21:58.220area. They're actively writing, okay, how do you handle air traffic control? What's the right way
00:22:04.600to approach policing? What's the right way to do border services? All those kinds of things are
00:22:08.840being built by people who know those subject areas. They're going to get reviewed. We're
00:22:13.720checking them for integration to make sure they all line up with each other. And we'll publish
00:22:17.360roughly the end of July and then we will have a version of the transition plan and most critically
00:22:22.900we'll have a budget. Danielle Smith went online and said 400 billion and other people said 300
00:22:29.520billion. Complete and utter crap. Yep I was just going to get to that. Total crap. Yeah yeah the1.00
00:22:34.840whole Danielle Smith the Premier Smith thing she was actually on my show and people said that I
00:22:38.340wasn't hard enough on her which I went and I looked back at the show and 100% I wasn't hard
00:22:43.100enough on her but the beautiful thing about this is she's going to be on my show every month now
00:22:46.520So I got to have an opportunity next month and the month after that and the month after that, right?
00:22:51.040And lately what I've been seeing come out of the Smith government is I'm a little bit disappointed in how she's advocating for, you know, to remain in Canada when actually she should just be governing the province, right?
00:23:02.180And she allowed us to go use direct democracy, go to a referendum on a referendum, and then from there we'll give the government a mandate of what we want, right?
00:23:12.000So I'm a little bit disappointed on that.
00:26:00.820And then look at the work that you're doing with the white paper
00:26:02.720with Keith Wilson and many other people.
00:26:04.220But what you said back then was, you know, about David Eby, Doug Ford, Quebec, all of that stuff is all the proof that anybody should need, in my opinion, that Canada is not working.
00:26:15.980So when they were in the stampede, taking pictures, shaking those hands, kissing the babies and saying Canada is working, you got a guy with David Eby that was paid off $13 billion basically to get out of the way.
00:26:27.340And then before that, it was a condo buyout to get out of the way.
00:26:31.200You have Wob Canoe, who's in Manitoba, who is an NDP diehard.
00:26:37.100So, again, ladies and gentlemen, we're bribing other Canadians to get our oil and gas to market that pays for social services that makes our country better.
00:27:25.520And I see no plan by anybody to remediate those things.
00:27:30.140If Carney stood up tomorrow and said, we're holding a constitutional conference, we're building a proper bill of rights, we're making an elected Senate or some better structure for the Senate and so on and so forth.
00:27:40.040I might say, okay, maybe it's worth listening to the guy, but placating us with a couple of pipelines, especially with carbon capture tied to it is ridiculous.
00:30:20.000I remember I lived downtown as a young guy, 23 years old.
00:30:24.300And I was walking down the street before the NEP and I was bustling and buildings were coming up and people were running around and really active and hectic.
00:30:40.800everything just died killed because of some guys in Ottawa making a decision that perhaps we ought
00:30:47.760to get more of the profit out of Alberta oil for the rest of Canada rather than the people that
00:30:52.400own it and the people of Alberta you start seeing those kind of things happen you start to move
00:30:57.160yeah well we if we want to go to a more recent time under Justin Trudeau we had Jagmeet Singh
00:31:02.700sitting there as like a proxy prime minister yep you know and he was basically controlling the writ
00:31:07.760He was literally, you know, you can do this, Justin, if you do this.
00:31:13.200And then just recently with Elizabeth May, the leader of the Green Party, which I believe is a one-seat party right now, was able to basically prop up the Liberal government with a budget and a non-confidence vote.
00:50:46.040It will be a bunch of us volunteers went through a hypothetical case,
00:50:51.080put together a plan that we believe would work and now all the tpas can use it share it and promote
00:50:58.420it to people who have that question yeah no that's that's super important so what uh is there a
00:51:04.040timeline do we have a timeline yet obviously it's got to come out before october right before we go
00:51:08.700in october i know a lot of you guys are doing work and it is important to emphasize these aren't
00:51:14.960alberta rednecks you know hanging out and just in and you know putting together a white paper you
00:51:20.060guys are professionals with professional backgrounds from industry oh yeah and you're
00:51:24.280putting this all together oh yeah we've got people who are recognized subject matter experts in their
00:51:30.400field people from oil and gas people from transportation people from taxation uh we've
00:51:36.540got lawyers involved of course because many of them see the agreements that operate the country
00:51:41.000in detail there's about 40 ish people involved right now the timeline that we're aiming for is
00:51:47.600end of July to put at least the first draft out, and it will be a draft. We're not going to put
00:51:53.060it out there and say, here is the plan, go chisel it in stone somewhere. It's going to be, here's
00:51:57.740what we think will work, and then we'll look for other people who know the area to say, yeah, but
00:52:02.260you missed this, or I think there's a better way to do that. We're already taking input. I think
00:52:06.620that's actually the appropriate way to do it, to be honest, is you guys get together in a room,
00:52:11.260you guys are putting this together, put it out to the people as a draft, because you never know
00:52:14.520who's going to read that right there's going to be another expert from some industry or
00:52:17.440some other guy who who might have a better idea and i think that's what we need to do as albertans
00:52:22.080i think we do that really well as albertans and that's why they try to shut down us having
00:52:26.400conversations you know i just i just wanted to remind the viewers at home that today c9 has
00:52:31.220started so the online hate speech act is has now started so there'll be another reason to go and
00:52:37.400support alberta independence because bullshit bills like that will not happen in an independent
00:52:41.880Alberta we'd be free to speak our mind and do what we're doing um you know so so I look forward0.72
00:52:47.240to that white paper end of July you said that's a draft and uh and any final words that you have
00:52:53.640for people on Alberta independence on the undecided because on the decided like we can sit here and
00:52:57.880talk we're both decided right we want Alberta independence and we can sit here and have these
00:53:02.040conversations and I love having these conversations but I'm really starting to love having the
00:53:05.720conversation with undecided what's the best ammo we can give somebody that is the core group
00:53:11.880You know, I mean, the town halls are wonderful and they're great fun, but face it, everyone in the room has already decided or so close to it that it doesn't matter.
00:53:20.200It's the, it's the people, you know, the people you work with to ask them, Hey, what's your position on it?
00:53:26.460Have a respectful conversation with them and say, why do you think we should stay in Canada?
00:53:31.400What are your concerns with things we've talked about?
00:53:34.220And try and give them information, not to try and force them to decide at the moment, but be respectful, be thoughtful and say,
00:53:41.820hey that's enough for today but can we get together for a beer next week and discuss it further
00:53:46.340that's the way you bring people over yeah you know what i live in a little town outside of calgary
00:53:51.100called langdon yep very it is a redneck town i'm not gonna lie it is it's it's the good luck town
00:53:56.700it's got a horseshoe as a symbol and i was driving out because they were doing the langdon days
00:54:00.560parade today so i have to do a different way out and there's a house that i never see because i
00:54:04.140don't go out that way that had forever canadian plastered all over it you want to know what i did
00:54:09.080but i drove by yeah right i drove by but yet on the other side we have people kicking over signs
00:54:15.460spray painting signs you know being vandal vandals to businesses we don't need to do that on our side
00:54:21.100never our job is to educate right our job is to love our province do this for our kids we don't
00:54:28.120have to get violent we don't have to do that no and and you know what they're all citizens yeah
00:54:31.820we you know i i pick on bruce and matt we have radically different views on how the country
00:54:37.100should be run. But you know, we're three good friends. We go for a beer, we laugh, we talk,
00:54:42.480we argue. Yeah, but what about this and what about that? We sat through six hours of sessions a few
00:54:47.820weeks ago. And you know what? We had good conversations. And there's no reason why people
00:54:53.420cannot have that same style of conversation with their neighbors, with their friends, their
00:54:57.760co-workers. Absolutely. Well, Dennis, this was actually absolutely amazing. It's my first time
00:55:02.420talking to you and i know i met you at the at the pancake breakfast last sunday you came up and we
00:55:07.540knew we were going to be matched up in this and i was like dennis i want to hear anything i i i just
00:55:12.100want to go in there i want to be raw i want to be real i just want want to have a chat with you and
00:55:15.860this actually was awesome ladies and gentlemen the value of freedom right here can anybody get
00:55:20.420access to this it's online at the app website download it and uh yeah get it awesome thanks so
00:55:26.800much my man i appreciate it thank you that's an awkward one but that works ladies and gentlemen
00:55:31.540You're going to want to go to albertatelethon.com.
00:55:33.940Let's get some money in these TPA's pockets.
01:00:09.680Before I introduce everybody, including myself,
01:00:12.400i'm laughing because uh max our producer was in the background counting down 10 9 8 and and jason
01:00:17.920said the same thing that was going on my mind we're on a rocket by the way that would be insane
01:00:22.880to be on top of a rocket waiting to be launched like i don't think i would do it it'd be less
01:00:27.040stressful this is right now though so welcome back folks uh i'm the host for the next hour of the uh
01:00:33.600the alberta telethon so i'm marty up north i'm sure uh some of you guys know me if you don't
01:00:39.600I'm just one of the local guys here in Calgary who got a bit of a following during independence because I spent about 200 hours on the side of the highway collecting signatures.
01:00:52.120And we'll talk a little bit about that.
01:01:22.520So we were one of the few that actually did a TPA during the petition period, the signature period.
01:01:26.740And then we did a second TPA during the referendum campaigning period.
01:01:30.740Okay. And so for, for viewers, right, TPA is third party advertising, third party advertisers. Right. So, and, and there's several various or different ones that can be set up. Some are set up for campaigning during political campaigns. Some are set up. Now there's been a bit of confusion because yours is not the, some of the ones set up currently are for the referendum. Yours is set up for the referendum.
01:01:58.320Okay, I thought it was under a different category.
01:07:10.220and eventually we found a cool spot it was my fishing hole right so it was the corner of uh
01:07:16.400bow valley bow trail and bear's paw road and we became a fixture there and people would come
01:07:21.720and um sign a petition and we spent i'd say about 200 hours like 200 hours all told uh collecting
01:07:31.320by the way and and the people came to visit us i was amazed at the generosity and i was worried
01:07:37.820about that too right i had people who would bring something as simple as a coffee and i i would post
01:07:43.920about that you know a picture of me with somebody and saying thank you for bringing me a coffee and
01:07:47.920i had people report us yep yeah i saw that and that that was unfortunate yeah yeah yeah reporting
01:07:53.260me for accepting a coffee i'm like anyways uh you know so so what do you guys uh what what's
01:07:59.640what are you doing with this money that you're collecting as a third-party advertiser every dime
01:08:04.400in a dime has to go out we have to report all of that by the end because anything that's left over
01:08:09.280at the end it has to go to a charity or elections alberta so we want zero dollars left at the end
01:08:13.760back to elections alberta you have to spend it spend it so we're doing lawn signs we're doing
01:08:19.040digital billboards we're doing events booking the venues flying people out accommodations all of
01:08:24.160those are valid campaign uh expenses yeah so we're doing a lot of that and and and then you're you're
01:08:29.760I guess you're constantly navigating that fine line between because you still are journalists or do you suspend your journalism during this period?
01:08:38.400Well, we keep the show separate from the TPA.
01:08:41.220So our morning show is still the morning show.
01:08:43.220We bring on guests, anybody that wants to come on, we talk to them.
01:08:46.480But then after we take that hat off, we get onto the road and do other things.
01:08:50.580And Paula's been fantastic with the books and making sure everything's separate so we're not crossing any lines.
01:08:54.900In fact, she gets so detail oriented that she'll call Elections Alberta and say, we want to sell hats. How are we allowed to do that? We want to do it correctly. How do we allocate that money? How do we account for the cost? How do we do that? And she does a lot of those phone calls.
01:09:09.480We'll come back to that. I want to know about the relationship you personally have with Elections Alberta, but before we go too far. So like I said, this is a telethon. I have a hard time with that word. I don't know why. Telethon.
01:09:21.680and um there's no phones around yeah so if you go to www.albertatelethon.com you will see all
01:09:30.920the tpas they're all listed there so at this event this week we're promoting seven of them i think
01:09:35.680there's a few more i think there's about 12 maybe 13 um i i don't think i i might be mistaken but i
01:09:43.320think that 12 or the seven are listed on the screen next to me here if not go to albertatelethon.com
01:09:50.640and they're listed there now if you want to donate to them you have to donate to them individually
01:09:55.440and so in your case what's your tpa called where do people go to donate to yours so the levine show
01:10:00.960dot com forward slash tpa and then you click on the donate button there you can check our events
01:10:06.080you can become a volunteer you can request a lawn sign everything's on that particular page and so
01:10:11.040uh and every tpa is probably set up differently i imagine different but the same at the same
01:10:16.320about the same kind of thing okay and what do you like how do people donate is
01:10:19.740it credit cards is it PayPal what is it so we do credit card and we also do e
01:10:24.360transfer so the way we did our e transfers you request the link from us
01:10:27.960by filling in the details we need in order to accept it because e transfers
01:10:31.800if we just put the email address on the website people can send it to them and
01:10:35.760we don't collect their information and if we don't know who they are and we
01:10:39.060can't contact them back that money goes straight to Elections Alberta not us
01:10:42.120because that's the rule that they said
01:19:47.700I mean, that's one of the things I do on X, right, is I'm showing people how to be good citizens.
01:19:54.240And these are the things you should do.
01:19:55.880If you're not involved politically, maybe you're not running, but you should still know what's going on and go to the website and go check out Thomas Lukasik's financial statements.
01:20:03.680and then you will see just what you said.
01:20:05.740It's like, oh, interesting that six people
01:56:29.320One of the things you're doing, you're going to do more of these events as we move closer to the 19th of October?
01:56:34.040100%. We were testing on a new format, a public input format, where we're asking the audience to provide their questions, comments, concerns, even some of their ideas on what a constitution could look like.
01:56:43.880Because there's many different models out there and people talking about different models.
01:56:47.020And we don't have an open mic, which is kind of a unique thing where we have everybody writing down on a card.
01:56:52.300So I'm sitting at the table with all the cards while the gentlemen are answering the questions and I'm getting ready for the next one.
01:56:58.320We get as many questions as we can, and people have been loving it.
01:57:01.260What's the importance of the Constitution as we move forward and that people know about that prior to the 19th of October and the referendum?
01:57:08.860People want to know how is this going to work.
01:57:21.480And that's why having a Constitution question at this stage with the public is very important.
01:57:24.940So it allows them to get into the conversation and have a piece of that as well and kind of own it, a little bit of stakeholder, because this is a constitution for the people by the people.
01:58:19.060Others wake up in the morning thinking about politics.
01:58:22.120I mean, God, what a way to start a day.
01:58:24.200But we think about it all the time, and most people don't.
01:58:26.840And that's why those visuals are important.
01:58:29.020It is, too, because it kind of reminds them something big is going on.
01:58:32.260Maybe they're not paying attention to any news.
01:58:34.300Maybe they're just in their own bubbles, in their own communities, their own worlds.
01:58:37.360And just even seeing a glimpse of that, like, wait, what is that?
01:58:39.580Let's go to livingshow.com and see what that's about.
01:58:41.640You can check out interviews that we're having, find your show as well.
01:58:45.060And things like this telethon is super important because it's going to really put the focus on a whole bunch of people who are working hard right now.
01:58:51.000I'm so pleased that you're doing this, John.
01:58:52.900Well, it's a pleasure to have you here.
01:58:55.460A great segue into me talking about the telethon.
01:58:57.780If you'd like to support Jason and what he's doing,
01:59:00.980just go to albertatelethon.com and make a donation.
02:54:08.660You know, I mean, there's been times where I certainly have worked on more pragmatic change because the movement wasn't moving or things are going.
02:54:13.700You don't stop everything else just because you've concluded, you know, the Federation's broken.
02:59:15.540no thank you for for joining the live stream it's amazing i i know how many people are watching us
02:59:24.640right now but i think today's goal is to support alberta independence and to get us as many
02:59:30.300donations as possible for third-party advertisers so i'm just going to remind everyone before we
02:59:35.100even start to go to alberta.com and select your advertisers oh shila and tamar it's so awesome
02:59:44.060having you please tell tell us where you are right now okay so we are in lethbridge alberta right
02:59:50.700now this is our second sign drop-off location today we started the morning in okotoks uh where
02:59:57.260we met a couple hundred people give out a couple hundred signs for my third party advertiser
03:00:03.260it's albertas-choice.com we've got a couple of different signs so we're just finishing up here
03:00:10.540in lethbridge i hope we have enough signs because we have to go to medicine hat still today so we're
03:00:15.980on quite a junket on a blazing hot day but this is the grassroots tpa that could and we're doing
03:00:23.500our best to spread the word that alberta just wants fair treatment and a chance to have our say
03:00:29.100yeah oh that's amazing you guys are so busy i guess it's thanks so much for for doing that guys
03:00:36.300what what do you think for for albert the independence is there a lot of people coming
03:00:40.060up to pick up those signs we started off the day with 500 signs i think we will probably have about
03:00:47.66050 to give out by the time we get to medicine hat we're just wrapping up here now and we still have
03:00:53.820you know like 15 maybe 20 people still here just gathering around talking it's a very busy day yeah
03:01:00.540but when we got here to Lethbridge there was like a crowd of maybe 50 people here and when
03:01:07.660we started the day in Okotoks we weren't supposed to start till nine but we know our people are
03:01:13.660eager and they were already there at 8 30 just snatching up signs so very busy um people like
03:01:19.580our signs uh because they speak to the inequity of the treatment of Alberta one of our signs
03:01:25.260says quebec got to vote why can't we in fact quebec got two votes and we have to jump through
03:01:30.620all these ridiculous hoops just to get a chance to ask the same question quebec did and that
03:01:35.740isn't fair that's just another reason why albertans deserve a chance to determine their own future
03:01:43.420exactly exactly and what are the people saying do you have anyone coming to you while picking
03:01:48.460up those signs and you know having a small chat what is the biggest reason that people support it
03:01:55.420yeah i'm gonna shut up and let samara take this one uh we've been busy talking to people like
03:02:00.460crazy i mean the one thing about it is they're very happy they're very hopeful they're looking
03:02:05.820forward to the future of alberta they have a lot of concerns with how this government is being run
03:02:10.780and how canadians are being treated and uh but the vibe is positive you know there's not a lot of
03:02:16.140Debbie Downers in this camp. They're really excited for what's coming. They're excited to
03:02:20.560talk about the possibilities of what a free and independent Alberta could look like. And it's
03:02:25.340just been an amazing day already. I'm not going to even have a voice tomorrow. We've been talking
03:02:29.160so much. Oh, talking so much, shaking so many hands. And yes, lots of hugs. And I just want
03:02:34.660to reiterate what Tamara's saying. Unlike what is being offered on the other side of this, very
03:02:40.460little arguments outside of nostalgia and name calling from the Forever Canada and the Federalist
03:02:47.280side. The people on the independent side, they're full of facts. They can tell you the number when
03:02:54.100you talk to them about equalization. They can tell you the number when you talk to them about
03:02:58.880the inequitable distribution of Senate seats. They come armed with the facts. And the other side just
03:03:06.620comes with like i said nostalgia and insults it's well we love canada um i used to love it too i love
03:03:15.440what it used to be and you know they they call you names they shut down the argument in fact
03:03:20.560um we had i should tell you crazy thing we didn't plan it this way when we got here to our spot well
03:03:28.140the forever canada people were set up across the parking lot um and you know they kept to their
03:03:33.900side we kept to ours it's fine i don't want to fight with them i wanted i want to have our say
03:03:39.120at the ballot box but they did have somebody from their side get a little frisky and come over here
03:03:44.980and get a little aggressive with a nice older lady but he shut his mouth real fast when the
03:03:50.640young fellows got involved um you know if your argument comes down to pointing your fingers in
03:03:57.400the face of a little old lady maybe you don't have an argument at all yeah exactly yeah that's uh
03:04:02.560I mean, and that's one of the things that I'm so proud about this side of the movement is, is that, you know, people, we are not the ones out there calling names or being disrespectful.
03:04:14.180You know, like I said, everyone's really happy, happy and they're hopeful and they're respectful to others and what other people's points of view are.
03:04:50.540There is a substantial portion of the Canadian population that is addicted to fear post-COVID.
03:04:55.220And so now that the COVID fear has receded, the fear of separation is their new addiction.
03:05:01.240But, you know, when you talk to these people, and I've sort of said it all day, they're not scared.
03:05:05.680They really believe in Albertans, that there's nothing that we can't do.
03:05:10.700When you look at the place that we were able to build in spite of the federal government, in spite of the weather and the climate and all the challenges that faced this province since its inception,
03:05:21.820we have built a wonderful beautiful place that we must protect as our own and it's a pioneering
03:05:28.040spirit we were pioneers and we're about to pioneer a new country or trailblazers yeah we got the
03:05:35.240people we got the talent we got the resources we got the experience we got the know-how enthusiasm
03:07:44.000Oh yeah, and I actually wanted to ask you, Sheila, about your book that you wrote on the blueprint.
03:07:51.360I wanted to ask you because there was a referendum in 1995 for Quebec and they did the right kind of
03:07:58.320preparation. Do you think we are getting this preparation right for ourselves right now?
03:08:03.760you know when i wrote the book we weren't you know and that's the problem with writing books
03:08:08.400is they only snow they only show a snapshot of what's happening at that moment and when i wrote
03:08:14.880the book um and what i did with the book it's called independence blueprint what alberta can
03:08:19.440learn from quebec at that time we weren't doing any of the groundwork that quebec was doing we
03:08:26.960have the enthusiasm we have the grievances for sure but we hadn't done any of the public engagement
03:08:35.280the sitting down and answering the questions and and you know in quebec they had this commission
03:08:41.280that went everywhere across the province and they had separate commissions for young people
03:08:45.920and senior citizens because they faced different issues and they really wanted to know what their
03:08:51.280objections would be what their fears were and they wanted to table a plan to address those because
03:08:59.560they knew project fear was coming for them and it did work at the end when when the independence was
03:09:08.660surging in quebec that's when they the federalists just unleashed everything they had and it really
03:09:13.720put a stop to that the more groundwork we do in advance which i think keith wilson and his group
03:09:19.220are doing right now the more public engagement the more facts and education are out there the less
03:09:25.780that fear that we saw in quebec will be effective on albertans exactly yes i think keith wilson
03:09:32.820started a good transition council so i think we are getting more more more and more prepared for
03:09:38.580this entire event i also wanted to ask you know for for tamara i heard that there is something
03:09:44.740going on in terms of uh you know additional charity i think i think you were there you know
03:09:50.660you got arrested multiple times with no bail i wanted to ask you uh do you think that like uh
03:09:57.620did it impact you to support alberta independence how how did your overall sentiment towards the
03:10:03.380federal government is after all of this and uh i heard that there are some things coming up soon
03:10:08.580in october so just wanted to get your perspective what do you think well i think that canada does
03:10:15.220not have a justice system i think that canada has a legal system and what you're referring to
03:10:19.940is we have an appeals process coming up chris barber and myself um as most people that are
03:10:25.460following these cases will know that pat king had his or his acquittal on his intimidation charge
03:10:31.620overturned by the appellate court yesterday and he's going back for resentencing and within the
03:10:36.580the next 60 days so that's obviously very concerning for for everybody else and you know
03:10:43.140what I love Canadians Igor I can't tell you enough how much support that Chris and I and so many
03:10:50.200others have gotten from Canadians Canada as it sits right now not so much I mean it's not it's
03:10:57.140definitely not the country that I grew up in and it's and it's very concerning it's very concerning
03:11:02.140to me that we have three judges that wrote in a decision that the freedom convoy was an organized
03:11:07.840attack on ottawa citizens yeah that's very concerning to me uh because that's that's
03:11:13.640liberal talking points that those are not facts um and those are now written in a legal decision
03:11:19.060going forward so i'm anticipating that our appeal will now be expedited because they were actually
03:11:24.900waiting on this decision and um and they're trying to do the same thing they're trying to have myself
03:11:29.840Chris Barber's intimidation acquittals overturned and have us serve more jail time oh my goodness
03:11:36.720this is and this is after i think it was already like five years how sorry that they did or
03:11:42.160uh it was already pretty long yeah my sentence will be served before this even gets to the
03:11:48.720appellate court most likely and my sentence will be served in january of 2027 so again then you
03:11:54.400know we're just going to start this whole process all over again this is something you know this is
03:11:58.880honestly you know scary for a lot of especially immigrants coming from those countries you know
03:12:04.480where democracy is not there so much so it's kind of scary even for me coming from eastern
03:12:09.680europe hearing that people get this kind of things going on here here in alberta it's almost
03:12:15.360feels like you know to me it almost feels like a made-up charge you know just to intimidate people
03:12:20.240from speaking up that's my personal perception of this you know it could be it could be a different
03:12:25.680thing from the legal perspective but that's how i see it you know from where i come from it's uh you
03:12:31.120know if you speak up your mind too much this kind of charges appear you know it's at least from my
03:12:35.840perspective i just spoke to a gentleman whose family immigrated here from china and he said
03:12:41.200the same thing like that his parents would just be absolutely appalled by what's going on here
03:12:46.000and i had to tell him the story about you know when we were at the freedom convoy if we were
03:12:49.600walking around canadians would obviously come up and they'd hug us and they'd cry on our shoulder0.94
03:12:54.080and they would be very grateful but when the uh immigrants that came from communist countries1.00
03:12:59.840came up it was a completely different it was a desperate gratitude tears of desperation from0.67
03:13:06.160people that have watched this playbook and they're watching it happen in canada in slow motion
03:13:10.640and a lot of our immigrant population that came from these communist countries have been trying
03:13:14.640to sound the alarm bells for quite a considerable amount of time um so it is alarming to them and0.88
03:13:21.040and uh and they should know they know what they're talking about you know and to just bring this all
03:13:25.200back to the whole idea of independence these judges by and large are federally appointed by
03:13:31.280the liberal party some of them are liberal donors there's a requirement on the supreme court that
03:13:36.560they be francophone all of that means that they are largely not from the west so these judges do
03:13:44.000not represent the values of the West. We are seeing light sentences or no sentences at all
03:13:51.200for career criminals, illegal migrants getting light sentences so that it doesn't jeopardize0.92
03:13:57.780their immigration. But then you see the book being thrown at people like Tamara Leach. And then when
03:14:02.700they lose, they try to get another kick at the can. And so I think what we're seeing in the justice
03:14:08.080system, which as Tamara points out, is simply just a legal system. It fuels Western independence
03:14:13.260Because we see that we do not want to be a part of a country that allows catch and release for people who harm children, people who harm our fellow Canadians.
03:14:24.120But then when you see what's happening to Tamara, you see that it is a political decision that we no longer want to be a part of.
03:14:31.760Exactly. And, you know, honestly, before we continue, I just want to remind everyone
03:14:38.120to go through the link and put your donations for your favorite TPA, third party advertisers
03:53:18.580And, you know, it's a group of really smart, experienced people who have achieved a lot in their life and are subject matter experts.
03:53:26.920And the focus of the white paper is on detailing what, if Albertans decide to exercise their constitutional right of self-determination and independence as laid out by the 1998 Supreme Court Canada succession reference case, then what happens next?
03:53:44.620And in particular, if Albertans do choose independence and resetting the relationship with the rest of Canada, how will life be different the day after the vote as the day before and the steps of Alberta transitioning from provincehood to nationhood?
03:54:04.100So that's what it's about. And to answer questions about continuity of service, whether it's someone may have a trip planned with WestJet to Cancun and want to know that after the vote that they're still going to Cancun and we'll be able to assure them that they are.
03:54:21.920um so that's what it's about and we're also going to look at the costing you know what's remarkable
03:54:28.120about those numbers that the premier threw out and i hope she regrets it i suspect she does
03:54:33.720because one of them was the debt now first of all the number is ridiculous that she used but just
03:54:38.200whatever the number is you know the analogy i like to use is imagine i had a spouse and i don't i do
03:54:46.720have a spouse but she doesn't have the problem i'm about to describe and those have met my wife
03:54:51.560don't want to know that that i'm just using a hypothetical which is imagine she had a terrible1.00
03:54:55.800spending habit and she had this ability to go and get brand new credit cards every two weeks and max
03:55:00.440them out and i say to my buddy you know i got to bring this to an end i can't do this anymore and
03:55:05.720he goes you can't do that you'll have to pay off the bill right and it's like no i'm trying to stop
03:55:12.840the bill from getting bigger so that's one of the points first of all it's not even clear we're going
03:55:17.560owe the government any the Ottawa any money because we've sent over 300 billion dollars
03:55:25.560since equalization has been in force more to Ottawa than we got back so um and there's other
03:55:33.400issues about well if the money we sent to Ottawa in addition to the 300 billion helped by the new
03:55:42.360new buildings that the federal government built don't we own 12 of that building so there's a
03:55:47.400lot of adjusting that needs to be done and the most significant thing is when people are looking
03:55:53.480at the cost of transitioning to a province we need to look at the benefits of transitioning
03:55:59.160to a province because immediately right out of the gate we've got 25 billion dollars more
03:56:05.960that we're not that we're sending to ottawa that we're not getting back that we'll have
03:56:09.320and we'll also have ottawa's knee off of our neck of our economy where we can grow it to
03:56:16.040supply the world because we have the third largest reserve of oil in the world and any other country
03:56:22.200that has any comparable to us other than the dysfunction of venezuela has no income taxes
03:56:27.880has free education and so on they prosper economically we don't because ottawa holds us
03:56:33.160back i'm not worried about this math it's going to work out especially if you consider the benefits
03:56:39.880and also speaking of money let's not forget to continue to raise money today but because we
03:56:43.880are at a telethon and there is amazing tpas that are doing the hard work and are going to get us
03:56:48.520i think to independence and i really do hope so and it is a hopeful movement and which is why we
03:56:53.720decided to fully throw our backs behind it and support it because we we understand the value of
03:56:59.080freedom not to steal from dennis comma but uh which is why once again go to albertatelethon.com
03:57:05.960and don't forget to do that but also i wanted to ask uh what does the money that has been raised
03:57:11.240indicate to you to both of you about the grassroots effort and support and the actual sentiment
03:57:16.360within alberta and albertans well the grassroots movement is strong and we have a very solid base
03:57:23.800and it's growing all the time i did a little bit of looking back into uh traditional telethons
03:57:29.080because i kind of grew up watching like the country 105 caring for kids radiothon that
03:57:34.120benefited the children's hospital and it said that since 2003 it raised 50 million dollars
03:57:40.040and that was by people donating 10 25 or 100 at a time and not thinking that their contribution was
03:57:47.080really going to make a huge difference but by having many people making small contributions
03:57:51.880together we've built hospitals we've funded research we've changed lives in many areas of
03:57:57.480our communities and absolutely those 10 25 or 100 can help us build a future alberta that we can be
03:58:04.120very proud of so i'm very excited that this telethon is happening that john bolton took the
03:58:09.000initiative to do this and everyone has joined in to do it i'm very grateful and and every
03:58:13.080contribution helps us achieve our goals and just on that note if i could you know i was on the
03:58:19.880ground in ottawa during the most successful fundraiser in canadian history which was the
03:58:25.640freedom convoy that raised over 24 million dollars in three weeks and what was so significant about
03:58:33.240that because i remember standing beside tamara leach on the ground in the war rooms there and
03:58:37.240she's going oh my god we just went up by another million and what it was it was an opportunity
03:58:43.320for canadians at that time to lay down a marker they couldn't be in ottawa they couldn't be on
03:58:49.080the side of a highway but they could show their support there's a lot of albertans who are feeling
03:58:53.880somewhat similar in the sense that um they're concerned about putting a lawn sign up some of
03:58:59.320them right they're concerned about showing their outward support because of the extremist uh
03:59:05.320approached by the stay in canada crew but sending a donation is a way they can put their marker down
03:59:11.480just like donors did in the freedom convoy and they can say i support this i'm showing people
03:59:17.400i support it and on that note i just got a note from our control room that uh let alberta decide
03:59:24.440today alone has just passed over 38 000 in donations thank you thank you thank you we are
03:59:32.600going to give you a return on that money like you could have never imagined we're going to win this
03:59:39.080and that's amazing because right before we were about to go on it was at 30 so that's amazing
03:59:43.960that everybody is uh and showing that support and that that care also for a cause that i guess many
03:59:50.040would call or many do call the critics and the skeptics uh fringe or an uphill battle but how
03:59:55.000would you respond to to that and especially given today what we're seeing well i wouldn't say that
04:00:01.400it's fringe anymore maybe at the beginning it seemed a little bit fringe and we had that large
04:00:05.880base that was very angry at the outcome of the federal election and quickly joined forces and
04:00:11.640came together to start to combat this but now we've kind of elevated that conversation and it's
04:00:16.440grown and i think that's what keith and i are very proud of doing with let alberta decide is
04:00:20.760we're creating that space for the conversation to continue to grow and to reach into that undecided
04:00:25.880category where we know that Albertans share a very common sentiment of being frustrated with
04:00:31.700Ottawa and their punitive treatment of Alberta but not necessarily everyone is ready to make that
04:00:36.760step to independence and then I'd also want to add that this first referendum to have a referendum
04:00:43.460is not a binding referendum so if you if you vote option one in that you're voting for the status
04:00:50.560quo. You're voting for nothing to change and for us to continue as per usual with the increasing
04:00:56.600overreach by our federal government and the increasing punitive treatment of Ottawa to
04:01:01.220Alberta. But option two gives a pathway for people that feel just disenfranchised with how Ottawa has
04:01:08.200been treating us. And what a vote for option two does is it empowers our provincial government
04:01:13.660with all the negotiation strength to be able to negotiate with Ottawa with that leverage and
04:01:19.880position of strength that we've never had in the past so if you want to pursue more sovereignty
04:01:26.300within or without Canada you have to vote option two I would implore you to vote that vote and then
04:01:32.660it will be up to us to convince you that no let's take it a step further and look at what the
04:01:37.760benefits are to Alberta standing on its own two feet and achieving independence well it seems like
04:01:43.520there's two opportunities here to really send Ottawa a message today with a raising a large
04:01:49.140amount of money to really push this thing over the finish line. And then on October 19th will
04:01:53.980be the second opportunity to really send Ottawa a message. And when we get to that binding
04:01:58.600referendum, I think there's going to be a big surprise of a lot of people that were pushed
04:02:03.340out of their own country, like us, like conservatives across Canada, wanting to move to Alberta to
04:02:09.040take a part of their country back and save Western values. Well, you know, on that point,
04:02:15.860if I could. You know, the rest of Canada needs some tough love. They've been living beyond
04:02:25.400the means. Alberta has been propping them up incredibly. I mean, which province has
04:02:32.060a growing economy in Canada right now versus how the rest of them are declining? Alberta.
04:02:37.680Which province has created the most amount of jobs? A report came out this week. 80,000
04:02:44.180jobs were created in Alberta. Meta just announced a $13 billion investment in an AI center.
04:02:51.860Other companies have announced over the past year record investments in Alberta. But Ottawa
04:02:59.580behaves recklessly. The prime minister every week announces billions and billions more
04:03:06.580going on to your credit card, your kids' credit card, your grandkids' credit card, and your
04:03:13.220great grandkids credit card. Corey Morgan was talking earlier today about the trillions and
04:03:18.260trillions in debt. That causes inflation. That causes workers who go to work and work really
04:03:26.160hard. And each week, each month, that paycheck, even though the number stays the same, it buys
04:03:33.520less and less and less. Their money becomes worth less over time. And nothing the federal
04:03:42.300government's doing is changing that and they're going deeper and deeper into this debt cycle
04:03:48.460and alberta has an opportunity to break free from that and start again and start from a foundation
04:03:55.900of our young entrepreneurial population that tanya talks about our resource economy we've got um you
04:04:03.260know we've got um we've got more agricultural highly productive agricultural land than most
04:04:09.100countries in the world you know we've got the third largest reserve of oil in the world we have
04:04:13.180a very high tech tech sector in our province we have an aviation and aerospace industry0.55
04:04:20.540we've got everything going for us but for ottawa holding us back and pursuing ideological agendas
04:04:28.140at the expense of our children's future more and more albertans are waking up to that our goal what
04:04:33.740we're using these dollars for is um is is we're running a very sophisticated professional campaign
04:04:41.100some of which won't become manifest for some time because of its nature but uh we're covering every
04:04:47.340aspect of traditional campaigning and taking advantage of the latest technologies and tools
04:04:52.860and recognizing the fact that just about everybody is on these all day getting their information from
04:04:59.340this thing exactly and i also think you will you raise excellent points there but also previously
04:05:05.720you raised that people might be skeptical or scared to show support for example and i think
04:05:10.020that is in it within itself supporting something like alberta independence and being afraid to do
04:05:14.720so should tell us something about the state of uh well canada at least but alberta as well
04:05:20.660within inside alberta but albertans also have really strong values that we see every day the
04:05:26.440hard work the resilience the responsibility so how can those be leveraged to actually achieve
04:05:31.460independence sorry did you want to go keith or do you want me to go for it tanya well i think that
04:05:40.780we have to just realize that we're not uh some some group that doesn't have identity and that's
04:05:47.080what is often being labeled on us that we don't have common values or or something that's easily
04:05:51.940identifiable but Albertans absolutely do and we all want to pursue better for our communities
04:05:58.660our families we want to achieve prosperity we want to have increased sovereignty and
04:06:03.460self-determination over our own lives and I think to do that we have to get behind
04:06:08.160a process that is actually enabling us to do that and the conversation in the past has been very
04:06:15.060limited in how we can actually achieve that and now we're trying to bring that conversation to
04:06:19.160the forefront that it is normal to talk about Alberta's future and Alberta's path and what we
04:06:24.440want to achieve for Alberta. And we might disagree on some of the steps that we take on it, but we
04:06:29.600absolutely are united in the things that we want for Alberta. And that's why I think that this path
04:06:34.700to independence is actually a unifying concept. And some of the media or different characters might
04:06:40.960try to make you think otherwise of it, but it is unifying to pursue self-determination and
04:06:45.820prosperity for your family, your communities, and your province. So if we bring that conversation
04:06:50.440and make it more normal to talk about it and engage people in that conversation, I think that
04:06:55.020we can achieve that. And after October 19th, once we do send Ottawa a message and it's clear that
04:07:02.060Alberta does want its independence, what do you think is an acceptable or appropriate timeline
04:07:06.480for the binding referendum to take place in? I think a completely achievable timeline for the
04:07:14.340binding referendum is in February or March of 2027.
04:07:18.980I think that'll provide ample time for campaigning,
04:26:24.660And once we get that pulled together, which is a bit of an effort, there's somewhere around 40 people engaged in it right now.
04:26:30.980We've got 20 subject areas to deal with, pulling it together, and hope to release it by the end of July.
04:26:35.360But that'll redo the transition elements in the value of freedom because we'll have more accurate numbers, more accurate processes, and so forth.
04:26:42.720so we can say okay transition will really cost us roughly this much that's awesome and then on the
04:26:48.080actually doing it part we're getting we have a bunch of subject matter experts guys who know
04:26:53.400their area like whether it be air traffic control or oil and gas or whatever that are actually
04:26:59.100saying okay this is how we would transition and they're speaking from position of knowledge so
04:27:03.120that's all coming in the next small number of months that's pretty cool so before we get more
04:27:07.620into that uh i should do an introduction and i'm sorry folks for the people that are watching my
04:27:12.160stream it seems as though there's always technical issues and the camera shows up that it's totally
04:27:19.080fine and when I try and put it on the stream it's not there so if you're watching my stream and you
04:27:25.660can't see me or you can't hear me head over to freedomcalendar.net or John Bolton's page I think
04:27:31.440it's back up or I noticed our the young ladies Madison Macy Holmes they have it streaming on
04:27:36.960their YouTube as well. So you can find it elsewhere. So my name is Christopher Scott.
04:27:41.880I'm the owner of the Whistle Stop Cafe in Mira, Alberta. And I'm also, I just happened to
04:27:46.460accidentally find myself as the leader of another, I don't want to say freedom minded, although we
04:27:52.820are freedom minded, another organization that's dedicated to having conversations with Albertans.
04:27:59.040So the most important thing that I've realized over the last six years is that people aren't
04:28:06.620talking to each other and we're making decisions on our governance on legislation those types of
04:28:13.500things and we don't have all the facts right right most of the time and i i think it's most of the
04:28:19.680time people are making decisions and voting based on what somebody else said and they fail to
04:28:24.700actually dig into it and listen especially to the other side so let's talk alberta exists specifically
04:28:30.660to facilitate the conversation between our conversation amongst Albertans about Alberta's
04:28:37.340future. And that's extremely important. It's critical right now because we're going to be
04:28:42.940asked a question on self-determination, right? And it's not a constitutionally binding toothed
04:28:48.380question. It's a question that kind of opens the broader conversation, but it's a question
04:28:54.500nonetheless. Yes, indeed. And I believe that we have a responsibility to learn as much as we can.
04:28:58.940So when we go into that referendum, we make the best decision possible for Alberta.
04:35:38.000All those things are in the hands of the future legislature.
04:35:41.980Deciding how taxes are done, deciding what constitution we should use, deciding, you know, what kind of military do we need are all things to be done by the people of Alberta through their elected legislature once we are an independent country.
04:35:58.440So all the transition plan is doing is covering that period of time from when we win the referendum until such time as that legislature is in place.
04:36:08.660Think of it more like scaffolding or temporary supports than a long-term plan.
04:36:13.740So all we're saying is, okay, how do you handle policing until the legislature can decide what the long-term policing model is?
04:36:24.000We have to, of course, defend the borders, protect the borders, at least keep track of who's in.
04:36:28.100We have to deal with how do we collect taxes in the interim.0.70
04:36:32.320We have to deal with things like what do we do about a military, you know, to cover that period of time.
04:36:37.240So that's what we're building right now.
04:36:39.500I said a few minutes earlier that we're developing it with a bunch of people who know what they're talking about and is being pulled together as we speak.
04:37:10.060Second question is, okay, so we will be financially viable.
04:37:14.080How do we get from where we are now, a province embedded in Canada with a lot of services that are not being done by our own people,
04:37:22.580to the place where we are doing all those services and operating as an independent country recognized by the rest of the world
04:37:29.180and be able to do things like, okay, we need a passport.
04:37:32.380How do I get an Alberta passport if we offer such things?
04:37:36.280So that's the thing we're building now.
04:37:37.980And that's what we want to have ready by the end of July.
04:37:41.040I'm glad you brought that up because there is a lot of confusion around that.
04:37:44.000I've heard a comment from some people saying,
04:37:45.920hey, you know, how come we're not involved in these conversations?
04:37:47.980And the answer to that is because we have no idea about any of those things.
04:37:51.700Like I have no idea how to transfer the logistics of operating an international airport
04:37:57.880from, you know, one jurisdiction to the next.
04:38:00.020I have no idea how to manage moving, you know, corporate tax liability from one structure into another and making sure all those things are smooth.
04:38:09.340But there are a lot of experts that can do those things.
04:38:11.700And I will point out, and I don't know if this was included in some of your stuff, but this isn't much, this isn't new.
04:38:17.660There's a province that's been doing this for 60 years and that's Quebec.
04:38:20.520And they have a ton of research and information on these things.
04:57:35.320racist well no no i believe in preserving the values that made the country the place that
04:57:39.560people want to immigrate to period right and it doesn't matter what color you are where you come
04:57:42.940from if you want to acknowledge freedom you want to be prosperous through hard work and opportunity
04:57:48.040come here exactly build with us right yeah well and i talked to some folks from india my friend
04:57:55.600prakash and uh anyway he he is grumpy and angry at the current state of immigration in canada
04:58:02.760Because he came in in the early 2000s, went through the point system, brought capital, worked his ass off, set up a company, is successful, done very, very well.
04:58:13.120And he's angry because why are we letting these people in with no requirements and no desire to build the country?1.00
04:58:20.840And, you know, Prakash, I'm sorry, he's from India.1.00
04:59:57.040It blows my mind. The Clarity Act is the legal pathway that Canada would prefer Alberta use or any province use to secede from Confederation. That's a preference. It is not a requirement. Under no circumstance in any time in history has a nation that has split from their parent nation been subject to do it only by the laws of the parent nation.
05:03:08.820I go, well, I'm willing to exchange my 15% of the military bases, parks, and federal facilities in the rest of Canada for a 100% ownership of those equivalent facilities within the borders of Alberta.
05:03:28.860That's one of the things that, one of the trifold documents that we produce at Let's Talk Alberta was show me the other half of the ledger.
05:03:35.720You know, we're always talking about this.
05:04:33.360And considering that Alberta has contributed, you know, something like $600 billion before inflation adjustment to Confederation, I think we're starting off in a pretty good negotiating position, if you consider both sides of the ledger.
05:04:48.140Unfortunately, some don't, including our Premier.
05:04:49.920Our Premier went public and said, hey, it's going to cost us $400 billion, it's going to cost $60 billion a year.
05:04:55.880She talked about that one side of the ledger, not the other.
05:04:58.440And that's actually what motivated me to write that document.
05:05:00.960and she mixed all sorts of things up she mixed up initial capital cost with increased operating
05:05:06.980cost of the actual units and then the actual you know money dispersed as part of those programs
05:05:12.200and you know i like to think because i do like danielle i like to think if she could say that
05:05:17.820over again she'd say something different but now it's out there in the wild and i think it's a
05:05:21.740ridiculous statement well it worked out good because it motivated me to do something so i
05:05:25.200spent a couple days doing some research and producing a document and now it's uh in in red
05:05:29.360Deer alone, there's a group there, they distributed
05:05:57.240And when you do, remember that the top three of those TPAs, the top three amounts of donation for three of those, I'm going to match that dollar for dollar up to my remainder of my maximum allowable under the elections finance rule.
05:10:18.580so when you when you consider how you're going to support this movement or what your place is in it
05:10:25.640just consider that consider what it means to be part of a group and part of a time where we get
05:10:33.260we get to do that and we get to do it without lifting a weapon we don't have to well I mean
05:10:38.540some people get beat up a little bit whatever but we don't have to go fight a war and it's right
05:10:43.480there in front of us so this is uh it's worth making small sacrifices of your time attending
05:10:49.580events talking to people trying to chip away at the stigma of of the independence conversation
05:10:55.440and also financially if if people aren't willing to open their wallets and financially support
05:11:01.480the independence movement it just won't happen no right that's that's the sad state of things so
05:11:06.280so please consider supporting um again it is albertatelethon.com there's some links there
05:11:11.820you can click on your favorite tpa i'm hoping that john can let me know uh what the top three
05:11:17.020were before i am on my way and then i will announce which ones they were and how much i'm
05:11:22.400going to donate so the more you donate now the more of uh my money you get to donate as well so
05:11:27.880perfect and yeah thank you very much dennis it was a fantastic finally meeting you and thank you for
05:11:32.860all your hard work for alberta thank you as well all right now what do we do i'm with tanya clemens
05:11:39.180Keith Wilson, Let Alberta Decide, and we're at the amazing Stampede Breakfast just the Sunday before the telethon.
05:11:46.940And congratulations. This was a remarkable event. I think you had 1,000 people out here today.
05:11:51.660Yeah, we sold out real fast and just shows the level of momentum and support in the movement.
05:11:57.460It's real. You know, you saw the cross-section of society who is here today of all backgrounds, all ethnicities,
05:12:05.180ethnicities, all, you know, places in life, and the support's real. It's growing. Albertans know
05:12:13.020that we can do better, and we're going to build on this to even take further campaign steps. We're
05:12:20.200going to be rolling out our large sign campaign to counter some of these larger red and white
05:12:25.300signs we're seeing, particularly in the Calgary area, and we're really excited about the turnout
05:12:30.220today. Jandy, I think it was about three weeks ago when you really kicked this thing off, and of
05:12:34.960course, there's some nervousness when that kind of thing happens. But how has it progressed for
05:12:39.460you so far? I mean, I'm seeing amazing momentum, as Keith said. Yeah, well, the support has been
05:12:44.400pretty incredible. As to date, we've raised approximately a quarter of a million dollars
05:12:49.720in our TPA. So that was one of the leading TPAs in Alberta history. The support that we have for
05:12:55.340people that come out and have conversations with us and send us information and chat with us is
05:13:00.500immense yeah you know keith i said when i was on stage thank you by the way for having me emcee
05:13:05.540this today it was just an honor to be here you know i said i'm here among friends and the other
05:13:10.920thing i noticed was there were a lot of other third-party advertisers who showed up today
05:13:14.540really it's really a team effort here even though you're doing your thing they're doing their thing
05:13:19.820it's just remarkable how everybody's working towards the school yeah like the the other
05:13:24.160third-party advertisers are spontaneous you know it was not a coordinated effort there's new ones
05:13:29.460forming all the time yeah you know i see uh you know like a veterans for freedom and albertans
05:13:34.120for freedom uh and many other groups and everybody's got a role uh we've got so many
05:13:39.620forces against us uh with the with the federal government having unlimited resources to try and
05:13:45.320scare albertans and use their fear campaign with other with the state forces are so well financed
05:13:51.620they they have the legacy media to rely on so this is grassroots but you know what we're trying to do
05:13:58.540tanya and i with uh let alberta decide is take a more sophisticated approach that that is really
05:14:04.380focused on persuading those who are not yet prepared to vote for independence and and build
05:14:09.900a new future outside of canada and a new new relationship with canada for alberta uh that's
05:14:16.380what we're focused on we're really going to be focusing on the cities as well because we have a
05:14:20.220lot of support as people know throughout rural alberta where our growth potential is is an
05:14:25.260imperative is in the cities it needs a different kind of messaging some different techniques and
05:14:30.220that's what we're implementing you know i heard uh i heard keith uh tanya earlier talking about
05:14:34.220these little people who sit on his shoulders one says why aren't you on the golf course keith and
05:14:38.780this one's telling i'm with tanya clemens keith wilson let alberta decide and we're at the
05:14:43.340amazing limited resources to try and scare albertans and you look at the importance of what
05:14:48.220it's going to mean to our children that's what really is driving all of us we've spent so many
05:14:51.980many generations trying to build Alberta up every generation and leave something better and more
05:14:56.360prosperous for the next generations and now we're at this point where that's not going to happen
05:15:00.420where our children are not going to be as better off as us it's not going to have as much opportunity
05:15:04.320and that's really disheartening we don't want that for them so this is our big chance to do it
05:15:09.140this is our big question that's going to be asked and Albertans need to really be engaged and think
05:15:12.680seriously about the outcome of this. Well congratulations on a great day I'm looking
05:15:17.260forward to the next three months it's going to be really exciting all the best to you and if you'd
05:15:21.860like to support let alberta decide albertatelethon.com click on the link you stood on those
05:15:29.020stone hi guys uh mike from the critical compass here we are live from the edmonton studio thank
05:15:34.860you for joining us it's been um a pretty amazing day so far um we've got uh we've got mr alberton
05:15:41.860uh or mr alberta he's uh he was uh hello stuck on the kiwi too on the way here so
05:15:47.740welcome sir yeah it's great to be here excited that we are now officially opening up the edmonton
05:15:55.620portion of the live stream which is of course the better portion at least the more the more
05:16:00.080northern one the more northern one edmonton the last great day we actually have something we uh
05:16:04.740oh you don't have it never mind all right it was a little peace offering to all the unfortunate
05:16:10.420calgary flames fans that are joining us but uh we'll maybe it'll join us we'll save it for later
05:16:14.740yeah yeah so for those of you don't know me i'm mr alberta i am a guy who's up here in edmonton
05:16:20.260blue collar worker who has a lot of fun making fun of the liberals and having a good time with
05:16:24.980that stuff i've been uh in alberta on one side of my family for over 100 years and the other side is
05:16:29.540immigrants so i have a little bit of a taste of both worlds and we're here doing a joint stream
05:16:34.820with uh critical mike critical mike yeah i'm uh i guess my maybe i'll say my background i mean like
05:16:40.580i'm a we looked this up one time the americans and the canadians say it differently if you're
05:16:45.380a first or second generation canadian or american in the u.s you'd be a first generation if your
05:16:52.020parents emigrated and then you were born you would be considered a first generation in canada some
05:16:57.140people say that the parents emigrating are first generation and then the children are second
05:17:01.300generation so i'm either a first or a second generation canadian so uh my my family comes
05:17:07.300from the middle east and from south america and so yeah i've uh until you know not too long ago
05:17:13.540was a very proud canadian and uh and i've you know unfortunately we've seen nothing but uh
05:17:20.100canadiana kind of die so it's uh i'm happy to identify as an albertan and uh yeah this is
05:17:27.220very cool so i'm glad that we have such cool guests with us today yeah maybe we'll maybe we'll
05:17:33.220zip it on over to uh mr wilkinson beside you yeah so here we have with us today first is uh john so
05:17:39.780tell us who are you absolutely thanks mr alberto thanks mike for having us on and what an amazing
05:17:44.260day so far with the telethon with the support coming in from across the province uh huge numbers
05:17:50.020and we've been seeing them as well so thank you first of all for the donations i am the lead
05:17:55.380and the primary contact with united alberta flags one of the registered tpas that's on the page and
05:18:00.660part of the telephone we thank you for your support so far today at all of the different
05:18:04.660activities and we thank you for helping us paint the province blue our team has been out in parades
05:18:10.660we have been out handing out flags little ones and i've got a couple here for you guys just for
05:18:15.300setting up all the work that it took just to get going and some alberta independent custom stickers
05:18:21.380that we had 10,000 printed these are going out all over the place but this
05:18:25.200isn't even what it's about this is about getting people ready to paint the
05:18:29.840province blue so that everybody remembers to vote for option two it's
05:18:34.280a nice little thing it works really well there might have been some thought behind
05:18:38.060it so yeah United Alberta flags we are actively involved in community events in
05:18:43.380helping get people not afraid to fly the Alberta flag anymore because of course
05:18:48.680as we have these discussions about independence we have people that have
05:18:52.940obviously made up their minds we've had other people that have obviously made up
05:18:56.180their minds against it and what we're actually trying to do is engage in the
05:18:59.960conversation with the hearts and the minds of the undecided voters in the
05:19:03.500province people are afraid what Canada has become isn't the Canada we grew up
05:19:08.360in that's true right I love Canada I've worked across the country I've traveled
05:19:12.980across the country I have family across the country but it's not what it once
05:19:16.880was and we're not just talking about equalization we're not just talking
05:19:20.960about the cost of living and the cost of food we're talking about values we're
05:19:24.380talking about orientation we're talking about integrity we're talking about a
05:19:27.620federal government that's off the rails and so as we do that that's what our
05:19:32.120goal is with RTPA today and the donations help it continue to grow that's
05:19:37.120what we're here for today we've got an announcement we'll wait a little bit here
05:19:40.220it's I know some of my followers some of our followers on our accounts have been
05:19:46.880Teased a little bit today that we've got really thrilled to be able to be here and be part of
05:19:53.680advancing a cause that's going to make a difference in our future generations, in our kids, in our
05:19:58.360grandkids, in what Alberta can be. People don't need to be afraid to fly the flag.
05:20:04.540Well said. Well said. I'd like to touch on a couple things you said actually, but first we want to
05:20:09.360introduce phil yeah yeah so phil uh gamash right uh i've been uh involved uh when right from it
05:20:18.000probably be um sometime in october right and got involved with the whole movement and uh so a little
05:20:25.020history behind me my family's been here since 1653 when was new france oh right we've seen a lot of
05:20:30.380changes over those times we had to make some rough decisions right and in those rough decisions you
05:20:35.160You know, some, you know, feelings will get hurt, loyalties will be bent, but the whole thing is you've got to come back to, okay, what's best for our family and our future?
05:20:44.220And I think that's what really struck a chord with me in this movement.
05:20:48.560And some people call me super volunteer, but there's a lot of super volunteers out there, right?
05:20:54.060He is a super volunteer, for the record.
05:20:56.120but yeah so i'm proud to be about uh you know uh helping in this whole cause and very excited for
05:21:02.440our future and the education that you know behind it is what you know i think will make the difference
05:21:09.320absolutely awesome so having you here has been pretty cool and it's really funny for me because
05:21:15.400i remember last year up until like last summer yeah the albert independence movement was always
05:21:21.480fighting over the flags we come up with new flags then everyone argue about it no we can't have a
05:21:27.240north star in it no no blue people still hate the the st george's cross for some reason yeah there's
05:21:33.520lots of discussion on different pieces yeah but then at the end in last summer a crazy thing
05:21:37.660happened where some forever canadian guy i think his name is uh copland or something sean copland
05:21:42.920goes to a medicine hat safeway and freaks out at the manager because they had an alberta flag
05:21:50.560it displayed over Alberta beef and he went so far as to make the manager take it down and like what
05:21:55.940we didn't know is that as soon as he really upset about that ever since and you know that just
05:22:07.380recently happened as well I saw on social media last week up in the Edmonton market here where we
05:22:11.420are I believe it's just over on the west end there are retailers that are supporting the Alberta
05:22:17.340economy. They're supporting the Alberta
05:22:45.260we're going to go even bigger very shortly.
05:22:47.340They are universal. Every Albertan, it doesn't matter.
05:22:51.340Ten years ago, it doesn't matter if you supported NDP or Conservatives, Alberta was your flag.
05:22:55.340It didn't matter if you lived on a reservation in a First Nations community up in Fort Chippewan
05:22:59.340or downtown Calgary, Alberta was your flag. You're Albertan,
05:23:03.340your flag is Alberta. It doesn't matter. And when we're talking about a jurisdictional
05:23:07.340issue like independence for the province of Alberta,
05:23:11.340there is only one flag, and that is the Alberta flag. It's the flag that you fly, that I fly,
05:23:15.340that everybody all around us flies there shouldn't be an issue at Safeway and
05:23:19.480there shouldn't be an issue in somebody's front yard it's funny how
05:23:23.620people it depends on the political winds of the day doesn't it it does how
05:23:28.960people view flags because I'm I don't know about you guys but I'm old enough
05:23:31.720to remember all the way back in 2020 and 2021
05:23:37.500was a symbol right yeah and now it's a symbol of a whole you know the it's
05:23:42.460unity again so isn't that funny how just in a matter of a few years the winds can blow it's
05:23:47.100only a subset of the community that uh that likes to play games with our symbols but they're also
05:23:52.620playing games with our futures and albertans right now i think not only are fed enough fed up
05:23:58.780but have also realized what those games are right right now we're talking about bc putting royalties
05:24:05.100on our pipelines on our oil well that's never happened before that's not a unified country
05:24:10.860You know, we chose the name as a third-party advertiser, and we are engaged in this campaign, and we chose United Alberta to directly contradict, not to contradict, but to come up against what at that time Danielle Smith and the Prime Minister and others were saying, well, we're going to have a strong Alberta in a united Canada.
05:24:29.640There's no such thing as a united Canada anymore, and there hasn't been a generation or more.
05:24:35.220So if you're going to play on the games here, I can tell you, I think, on October 19th,
05:24:40.440we'll have a united Alberta that's voting for option two.
05:24:43.720We're going to help make that possible by strengthening people's resolve,
05:24:47.640helping to educate them, and helping them to fall in love with their provincial symbols again.
05:24:53.940In the last two weeks, we've got out over 4,000 flags at different events of different sizes.
05:24:58.420Yesterday, we picked up another order of 5,000 flags that are coming up, and we've got the little parade flags that go on out.
05:25:05.860We've got three by fives that go up on houses.
05:25:07.820We've got these big ones, and I guess I'll throw it out now.
05:25:10.540On the way down here, I had a long meeting.
05:25:13.060We've been announced on Rebel News a couple of weeks ago that we want to do big ones, but here's part of the problem.
05:25:19.360We couldn't find a manufacturer for the flagpoles here without going to the States or going to Nova Scotia.
05:25:25.360now in a normal environment yeah we could look at those things but i really want to support local
05:25:30.940we met with and started the conversation and started the deal today with a manufacturer
05:25:36.980here in the province that's going to manufacture us 100 foot flagpoles that we're going to put up
05:25:42.92020 by 30 foot alberta flags on around the province your donations can help make a difference to fund
05:25:49.940these, up and down Highway 2, up and down Highway 1, and up and down Highway 3. They're not the
05:25:56.220same price category as these, so feel free to donate up to $5,000. We are tracking absolutely
05:26:01.640everything. You can go to unitedalbertaflags.com today. Right now, we can take e-transfer, we can
05:26:09.000take credit card. It's all set up and it's rolling. We've seen so far today that we've already brought
05:26:13.080in $5,000 or more, and we're greatly, greatly, we really appreciate it. We're so thankful for that
05:26:19.240because it helps make this possible and it helps strengthen Alberta all the way across.
05:26:23.920So five grand, how many Alberta flakes does that get?
05:26:26.340Well, we buy them in bulk, so it's not really a retail price right now.
05:26:31.020Depending on the size and depending on what we're using them for,
05:26:35.180the big ones here, these are going to be $2,500, $3,000 a piece.
05:26:39.340These we're getting for cheaper than probably most people want to know
05:26:42.420because there's other people that are still buying them for different events.
05:26:44.800So we make very good use of wholesalers and bulk agreements in the province to help make the biggest impact that we can so that we can distribute at an efficient level and make sure that we're getting out to all of the requests.
05:26:59.440When I came into town today, I stopped at a house and a volunteer.
05:27:03.600Somebody had asked for them here in Sherwood Park all across the province.
06:25:24.860Like, we thought he could do things for us, and he tried to the degree that he could.
06:25:28.240to a certain degree. I mean, any prime minister of Canada, regardless of their party, has to
06:25:32.200cater to Ontario and Quebec. That's the bottom line. And Stephen Harper had to do the same thing
06:25:35.940if he wanted to stay in, and he did. And so we didn't get the kind of things that we really needed
06:25:39.760here in Alberta from the federal government. And so again, it just goes to show that we cannot fix
06:25:44.260this country from here. We've got to become our own country if we want to be able to elect people
06:25:48.440who will do what's good for us and not what's good for Toronto and Montreal.
06:25:51.700The reality is Stephen Harper, even when he was here, he didn't exactly
06:25:56.420help us he just was he pulled the knife out of our back for a little while actually that's a good
06:26:00.540way of putting it i mean it's not it's not so much that the conservatives could do a lot of good stuff
06:26:03.940for us it's just they give us a reprieve from the punishment of the liberals you know the liberals
06:26:08.300are there to punish us and hurt us and when the conservatives in there they won't do that
06:26:11.940conservatives aren't going to hurt us but there's not much they can do for us they just give us
06:26:15.780breathing room until the next liberal government comes after us basically except that it was harper
06:26:20.160that changed the equalization formula yeah to include 50 of our resource revenues but exclude
06:26:25.300Quebec. That was the thing. For votes. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So he also stabbed us in the back in that sense. Like, I mean, he won his vote in Quebec. Smaller knife. Smaller knife. That's the thing. Like any, any federal leader who wants to be in power has to cater to Quebec. And the opportunity came up to change the equalization formula. And he needed seats in Quebec because that was the one province where he was weakest, right? So this was a way of gaining support in Quebec exactly. So he did something that was bad for Alberta for sure. Yeah. And speaking about change, I wanted to make another just quick reference
06:26:55.120to albertatelethon.com uh i have about four jokes that i just cycle constantly constantly try being
06:27:02.640my wife at home uh albertatelethon.com actually we just got a note uh that i thought was interesting
06:27:09.140maybe the panel would like to hear um mr john wilkinson who is on from alberta flags he uh he
06:27:15.340messaged us and said that he's actually since he's been on he's been getting a lot of uh 49
06:27:20.280donations which is sort of an an interesting note because you know how frightened people are about
06:27:27.620being having to give their information away about what they're donating like even even now you know
06:27:32.580we have we have a question on a referendum we have some social legitimacy because we have you
06:27:37.860know signs everywhere and flags everywhere still people are afraid to put their names down on a
06:27:42.400piece of paper to to engage in the democratic process what what does this say what does it say
06:27:48.100says we need out yeah it just it really does it says we need out um just a short story we had a
06:27:56.660donor who shall remain nameless but they used a middle name and then gave the 250 so under 250
06:28:07.140you're not on the on the public list but over 250 your name is immediately on the elections alberta's
06:28:14.420has donated over this much right so he gave that much and then his spouse gave the 750
06:28:22.420so that they could make it right up to the to the thousand dollar mark that's what they wanted to
06:28:26.580give but the spouse used a middle name as well so that it couldn't be tracked exactly to them right
06:28:34.260um it's really it's been quite fascinating even today when i was at in red deer at the farmers
06:28:40.900market you know i i don't know i want to put a sign out but my house is going to get egged if i
06:28:45.540do that i want to do this but this is going to happen i want to do that but that is going to
06:28:50.100happen and all i can think of is you know funny story none of this ever came from our side ever
06:28:57.220because it would have made the news yeah immediately and so yeah people are scared
06:29:02.580they're scared to put their names to something they're scared to put that sign out because of
06:29:06.740of repercussions. It's ironic though, because in my area that I live in, it's very, very left
06:29:13.880leaning, extremely left leaning. Not that all leftists are against Alberta independence. I know
06:29:18.280there's a lot of you who are for it. You just don't want to say it. Yeah. But the moment I put
06:29:22.500up an Alberta flag on my house, all of a sudden one of the neighbors down the street put up an
06:29:28.060Alberta flag on their house and another neighbor put up an Alberta flag on their house. And then
06:29:32.540I found out later that it actually helped build up our street credit with our neighbors because1.00
06:29:37.820they're like okay we know you're not crazy like the forever Canadians are these days and so like1.00
06:29:43.440all of a sudden they're we actually made more friends and I've never had my car get keyed I've1.00
06:29:48.060never had my house get egged and I'm in the heart of the uh the crazy place yeah so yeah well that's
06:29:54.560the thing I mean even at our house the other day when I was in Two Hills um speaking with Chris
06:29:59.920Scott and his crew uh the dogs alerted my husband to somebody in the front yard in the front yard
06:30:04.960and I've got signs I've got the flag like you know it's my house right and we are also on a
06:30:09.640dead end street so it's not through traffic that comes by and so he looks out the window and he
06:30:14.720sees somebody lurking in the front and looking at the signs and looking at the flag and he's like
06:30:18.700ah here we go you know now I gotta get out there and blah blah blah anyway long story short the guy
06:30:24.400is also for independence and so this conversation strikes up on the street and he's like yeah I was
06:30:31.460just I don't know like a Facebook marketplace pickup or something like that and couldn't help
06:30:35.340but notice and so this great conversation takes place and my husband says well do you know who
06:30:40.380Kathy Flett is and he says yeah which always freaks me out like that should not be a thing
06:30:45.320that should not be a thing but he's like yeah of course I do and he says well these are her signs
06:30:50.000do you want one he's left with three because i happen to have some in the back of the truck i
06:30:54.480got them in the back of all the vehicles that we have so it's important to have these symbols out
06:31:00.460there because you just don't know you don't know what opportunity you're going to be able to open
06:31:05.220up for somebody else to be able to be brave and go yeah you know what i'm going to do the same
06:31:08.940thing michael in your experience working on these campaigns and and in being involved in this world
06:31:15.220in the 80s what do you notice differently from how people treat a separatist quote-unquote
06:31:22.180for in the 80s and 90s maybe compared to today do you notice much of a difference in how they're
06:31:27.000treated in the public or online not online back then but you know what I mean like there's always
06:31:31.760been a stigma like I mean it was less common then back in those days like it was a brand new idea
06:31:36.880back then like no one had really thought of it seriously until the 70s and the 80s so you were
06:31:41.360very much minority it was like and the word separatist course has stigma with
06:31:44.600it still of course so to just to identify with that word I mean some
06:31:47.860people today don't even want me to use that word still but but I've been using
06:31:50.780that word for decades so I still will so it was very much a stigma and like
06:31:54.180compared to right now like there's more independent supporters now than ever in
06:31:57.560Alberta so there's in certain communities that's there's no stigma I
06:32:01.460don't think at all like so in that sense it's more comfortable to be an
06:32:05.000independent supporter now except for in the sense like you're talking about
06:32:07.700people who don't want their names you know put it down and and what I want to
06:32:10.580about that is that shows how canada has changed like it was never like that the canada that i
06:32:15.220was born and raised in was not like that you wouldn't have to be afraid of putting your name
06:32:18.420on something but that just shows what the liberals have done to this country it just shows more why
06:32:22.500we need to get out how can we have freedom if people won't even put their names down for what
06:32:26.500they support you know what i mean like that's not freedom there's some kind of fear there that's been
06:32:30.660generated by the government the government has made people afraid to stand for what they believe
06:32:35.060and speak what they believe that's not a free country in my view and i think that's just one
06:32:39.220more argument why we need to become independent so we can have that freedom again that we had before
06:32:43.780it's it's it is a great argument because and it and it's such an important distinction to note
06:32:48.180that this is something that is very manufactured by by government by media working together because
06:32:54.980you know like we talk about you know we we see this in our neighborhoods like we if you have a
06:32:59.460like i have i was talking with uh our friend of the channel off screen about our our neighborhood
06:33:05.380how we have uh we're sort of outnumbered uh from alberta um lawn science to forever canadian lawn
06:33:11.140science but these are neighbors that we like and we get along with and you know there's no like
06:33:15.460you you run across them you get in the mail or on their mowing their lawn or whatever like this is
06:33:19.300not a what you see online is not um it's not representative of reality right and to make it
06:33:27.140seem that way is it's so so dark it's not nice it's not good and and to make it seem like it's a
06:33:33.380uh a much more personal and much more vitriolic sentiment like this is you know we have very
06:33:38.820reasonable arguments i think and i think if if more people were open to at least having a
06:33:43.460discussion about it rather than i think the trick that the that the government and the media likes
06:33:48.420to play is um they say that even if you engage in discussion about it you know you're you're giving
06:33:53.700it air or you're giving it but that's exactly how you think you know this is a very you think by
06:33:59.700talking and by discussing and by being challenged in your ideas and so it's it's ironic though
06:34:05.860because forever canada appears to be creating a culture of encouraging this of fomenting this
06:34:14.660kind of unity this kind of thing where you know you need to attack them or you need to like do
06:34:19.380all this stuff to a separatist come up with names and call them all that stuff but the reality is0.80
06:34:24.820all that does is makes it so you guys start to look more and more like the crazy ones.
06:34:30.100So of course you're going to attract more crazy people to your side, but then over time,0.84
06:34:34.180the more normal people are going to reject it. And so I kind of find it a little bit serving us
06:34:40.500that they're doing that, that Thomas Lukasik has never come out once to denounce any of the
06:34:44.820violence done against any of our Albert independent supporters. He's never come out once to even say,
06:34:49.940stop harassing or doing all this. He's always silent on that. And then in their private groups,
06:34:54.340because I'm in your private groups, guys.
06:40:08.760So in 1982, Pietro was fundamentally changing Canada, and he knew it, and that's what he wanted to do.
06:40:14.200And Ted Byfield, to go into details about how Canada was different, like he grew up in, he was originally from Toronto, and he came out to Alberta, became an Alberta patriot.
06:40:21.600I mean, a lot of people from Alberta move here and become Alberta patriots.
06:40:24.540And like when he was growing up, we had a different flag, and that was changed by the Liberals in the 1960s.
06:40:29.540And actually, the change in the flag was representative of the kind of change they were introducing to the country in general, right?
06:40:34.540So anyway, in that book, I'm quoting from Ted Byfield how he talks about and describes the change from old Canada to new Canada.
06:40:42.420And it was the old Canada he grew up in.
06:40:43.760It was the Canada he loved and was loyal to.
06:40:46.180And he did not feel loyal to the new Canada that Pierre Trudeau was introducing to us.
06:40:49.980So that's part of what that book is about because in those early years, there was that cultural issue to the independence movement
06:40:57.220because people realized our country was changing fundamentally and they wanted to stick with the older Canada.
06:41:02.400And so there was a lot of even meetings I went to, I think there were like World War II veterans there, you know, who were for the Alberta side, you know, because they saw the country changing drastically, and they didn't like what they saw.
06:41:12.860So that book talks a bit about that, because those are some of the original emphases and themes of the independence movement back in those days.
06:41:19.380So then in the second book, No Other Options, Self-Determination for Alberta, I do talk a lot about how Ted Byfield talks about Alberta's cultural identity.
06:41:27.580Like, now, Alberta's identity isn't different from the rest of Canada the way Quebec's is.
06:41:31.720Like Quebec, they have a different language and a different history and stuff.
06:41:34.180So Alberta is not distinctive from Canada the way Quebec is,
06:41:37.080but it still has its own distinctive history.
06:41:39.280It has, like we had way more American immigration in those early years,
06:41:42.220which kind of set us apart from the rest of the country.0.97
06:42:25.900We were a completely different colony that had nothing to do with Canada.
06:42:28.940And it wasn't until finally the British Crown forced the sale of it to Canada that we even became a part of it.
06:42:35.700And then we were treated like a colony for the first 40 years, a colony of another country, essentially.
06:42:40.480So we were settled by a very different group of people.
06:42:43.580And even when we became part of Canada, for a long time, only the rejects were sent out here.0.99
06:42:49.400If you were a dirty Eastern European, or like a lot of our ancestors were, you weren't allowed to settle in Upper Canada, in Ontario or Quebec.1.00
06:42:58.320No, you had to go out to the prairies because, oh, yeah,1.00
06:43:01.320because Ukrainians are a lot of farmers.1.00
06:43:03.060And that's why, like, we've got a giant Easter egg in Bankerville.
07:14:28.340we cannot for the sake of our children underestimate underestimate the magnitude of that challenge
07:14:37.780we have to get like 1.8 million albertans to vote yes that means that means every
07:14:46.740single one of you is now charged with a mission and that mission is to talk to your friends
07:14:53.780Talk to your colleagues at work, the guys on your shift, the people in your baseball team or your hockey league, everybody that you encounter, to have the awkward discussions, to get them to understand the opportunity that's before us, the opportunity that how they will benefit, how their family will benefit, how their community will benefit, how their kids will benefit by voting yes.
07:15:22.020that is the imperative that we all have we can do it you must do it are we going to fight for our
07:15:28.980kids there's a lot of people here today but it's not enough we need more people which means that
07:15:40.220each and every one of you you need to ask yourself are you willing to make the sacrifices necessary
07:15:47.800specifically with your time to make this happen? Are you willing to actually go and have the
07:15:54.160difficult conversations with those who may scoff at you so that you can make these changes? Are you
07:16:01.060willing to give up your Friday night or your Saturday night, like most of these people have
07:16:05.700been doing for the last three, four years, to make this happen? And if you're willing to answer yes,
07:16:13.460which i'm sure most of you are then you need to walk the walk when you leave here you need to
07:16:18.640start doing these things you need to educate yourselves on what the situation we're in and
07:16:24.540what the solution looks like you need to know the details so that when you have these conversations
07:16:29.660you're an effective ambassador for independence every one of you is an ambassador for alberta
07:16:36.560Independence. Did you know that? So just insane. I've got a little thing. Kearney's got the elbows
07:16:46.420up thing going. You know, it's kind of a hockey thing, right? I'm a hockey player. I'm going to
07:16:53.820tell you a little thing about hockey players. There's a challenge that goes on. I don't know
07:16:58.800if you're aware of it, but I'm aware of it. Sometimes guys will sidle up to you and say,
07:17:04.600come on let's go do you want to go so at that moment you either do or you don't
07:17:13.820and if you don't that guy probably owns you and you're a little intimidated and then once you
07:17:21.780get intimidated it stops everything from working so here's what I'm going to ask you let's change
07:17:27.320that up because the answer to come on let's go is let's go right so I'm going to ask you as a group
07:17:39.960you know there's a double meaning there come on let's go
07:17:45.320so that's going to be the battle cry for our movement how about that
07:17:52.360so I'm going to ask you a question and then you can tell me if you want to go or not is the
07:17:59.660federal government stealing from us are they sabotaging our industry are they taking us down
07:18:07.880the path to communism are they censoring us are they stealing our guns from us come on let's go
07:48:44.040I know that if we don't do anything and we continue on that trajectory, 10 years from now, I'll be thinking back and I'll be thinking we should have done something.
07:49:00.880Like if you put yourself in your own shoes 20 years ago, I know that's a tough thing to do, but just pretend you're 20 years younger.
07:49:06.800And someone came to you and said, in Canada, in your Canada, you're going to have to attend church secretly, illegally, because if the government finds you, they're going to throw you in jail.
07:49:19.440Or in your Canada, if you offend somebody, you're going to be fined or potentially jailed.
08:11:23.400Welcome. Three months from today, you'll be asked to vote for option two on question 10
08:11:32.160in the referendum. But a lot is going to happen between now and October the 19th.
08:11:38.400Let me put it to you this way. Over the next three months, the full weight of the federal
08:11:43.420government of Canada, the Liberal Party of Canada, and the Prime Minister of Canada,
08:11:47.600Mark Carney, will come down on Alberta to try to stop us from gaining our independence.
08:11:53.400Not only that, the full weight of the Conservative Party of Canada, its MPs, many of whom you voted for, and its leader, Pierre Polyev, will come down on Alberta to try to stop us from gaining our independence.
08:12:05.280And a little closer to home, a woman you probably voted for and trusted will be campaigning against you for trying to get a better life for yourself, your children, and your grandchildren.
08:12:19.040not only that these parties have endless amounts of money throw in the mainstream media and the
08:12:26.7801.4 billion dollars of your money to the cbc and this is a pretty steep hill to climb
08:12:32.820but today we can make a difference today we can make a stand today we can send a message
08:12:41.960to Ottawa. So far, third-party advertisers on our side are doing very well. We're out
08:12:48.420raising the other side, but we have hundreds of thousands of dollars and they have millions
08:12:53.520and billions. If you can, over the next 12 hours, please contribute. Please donate to
08:13:01.360the third-party advertisers we'll be talking about today. It's the only way we can win
08:13:08.120this thing. Welcome to the Telethon for Independence. Now let's kick some ass.
08:15:48.000And it's time we talk about that because let's be honest, folks.
08:15:52.180I'm going to talk to you about Alberta.
08:15:53.960See, what Albertans do, what Albertans like to do is Albertans like to dig into their pockets
08:15:59.360And Albertans like to make sure that everybody gets their fair share when it comes to independence, when it comes to making sure that we look after our province, we look after our future republic.
08:16:13.640If you really want to support Alberta, if you really want to support your kids' futures, as you can see, I'm flushing my children's college fund out the window right now.
08:16:56.420Coming out at the end of the month, now the white paper is going to be different, I understand, from the value of freedom because we were talking about that earlier in the telethon.
08:17:07.000What can people expect out of this white paper when it comes out?
08:17:10.040Well, what the white paper is about is to answer people's questions about what happens after the vote for independence.
08:23:12.620So in other words, those are calculations.
08:23:17.300There's a number of ways to approach it.
08:23:20.680I've been litigating complex and a lot of high-value cases in my legal career for over 30 years.
08:23:27.580And I'm very experienced in dealing with these kinds of negotiations.
08:23:31.140and what happens is the parties will both come up with a methodology of how to pick the number
08:23:37.920and then the other side says no we don't agree with that this is a better way so
08:23:41.820so it's not clear to me what the number would be but the bottom line is Alberta has a lot of
08:23:47.700strength and that's the second part of your question our negotiating position
08:23:51.480I've negotiated most commonly on behalf of landowners farmers and ranchers against
08:23:59.500multinational oil companies. So I'm used to an underdog position. In this negotiation between
08:24:05.480Alberta and Ottawa, Ottawa's the farmer. We're the oil company. And what I mean by that is
08:24:10.520we are the largest contributor of growth and GDP growth in the country. Our economy is super strong
08:24:19.540and is growing. We keep seeing these announcements like Meta, 13 billion for a data center and all
08:24:24.640these other things. That's the power of our economy when it's restrained with Ottawa with
08:24:31.260its knee on our neck. Imagine what we can do when we get that knee off our neck and we can pursue
08:24:38.240our potential. But more importantly, for those of you who saw my debate, the second public debate
08:24:46.000with former Premier Kenny, he said something during the debate that just shocked me and made
08:24:50.880no sense. He said that if Alberta separates, the federal government might stop the flow
08:24:57.760of oil through the TMX pipeline to Vancouver, as well as through line five and nine to Ontario
08:25:05.020and Quebec. And if anybody was in the room, they would have saw me tilt my head and look very
08:25:08.780puzzled. Because if we stop the flow, if for whatever reason, the flow is interrupted to the
08:25:15.880Burnaby Refinery in Vancouver, they run out of gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel in less than 11
08:25:20.720days. Their economy comes to a screeching halt. Also, I did a detailed analysis and talked to
08:25:29.280experts. The same thing happens to an Ontario. The refineries at Sarnia get our oil. We also
08:25:37.820send different products through. That turns into gasoline, jet fuel, and diesel. You cannot run a
08:25:43.640car plant if the the diesel highway trucks can't fill up with fuel people can't the 401 for once
08:25:50.280will be safe to drive on because there'll be nobody on it um and the Pearson airport will
08:25:56.240function as it seems normally because no planes will go in anywhere because they'll have no jet
08:26:00.220fuel uh and similarly right up into Quebec so uh if if if the federal government wants to be
08:26:07.780hostile and unreasonable and punitive they're going to quickly realize and I think they know
08:26:16.600they're bluffing I think that's why they're putting such effort to counteract the independence
08:26:19.540movement we have phenomenal power in this negotiation and here's another huge fact
08:26:25.340think about this overwhelming majority of our overall economy not just our oil is north-south
08:26:33.520Our largest trading partner, the driver of economy, is the largest economy in the world, which is the largest market in the world, which is the largest market closest to us.
08:26:44.420If we lost the ability to trade with the United States versus lost the ability to trade with Ontario, and you had the ability to choose which one, which one are you picking?
08:26:56.760So we have phenomenal leverage in this negotiation, and I think you're going to see the other side fight even harder, harder in the coming weeks and months to undermine the independence movement.
08:27:10.120All they've got is emotion and fear, because by every objective measure, our kids and grandkids will be way better off in an independent Alberta.
08:27:17.420Absolutely. Yep. And I think they're going to scare us by shutting off the taps, but they're just de-benefiting themselves.
08:27:23.840just yeah i mean the oil it's not it's not like it's bananas no you know like where we sell
08:27:27.680bananas and it's like oh my god they're going to be bad if we can't keep shipping them it's like
08:27:30.940okay fine we'll just it'll still be we'll show you exactly i have one more uh so for the many
08:27:37.940albertans who aren't fully sold on independence yet but feel deeply concerned about their kids
08:27:42.900and grandkids future uh rising costs fewer opportunities and watching alberta's health
08:27:47.980wealth and potential constantly held back by decisions made far away in ottawa what would
08:27:53.180you say to them about why choosing option two on october 19th i was hoping that would happen
08:27:59.520i could open the door to more confident prosperous alberta where our own resources work ethic and
08:28:06.140values finally build the kind of province we all want to pass on well i think we're going to have
08:28:12.340to try and get past the emotion the emotion of the patriotism of the symbolism of canada
08:28:19.040um uh i'm not planning on leaving canada canada left me yes absolutely and um and here's another
08:28:28.820thing we're not actually leaving canada and let me be precise about this because some people might
08:28:35.260misinterpret what i'm saying and get mad at me like you i just saw the fist
08:28:40.840clenched and you're closest so i gotta be really careful uh so let me see if i can get that fist
08:28:46.240unclenched and it's this we're not bringing in concrete cutters and jack1.00
08:28:51.420hammers and and and dollies and house movers to lift Alberta up and move it
08:28:57.360somewhere which is what a lot of people kind of make it sound like that's0.96
08:29:00.120what's happening. Intuitively without thinking about it does seem that way
08:29:03.480we're always going to have British Columbia as our neighbor to the west
08:29:07.420and Saskatchewan and I mean Saskatchewan if we go is gonna come and it's so it'll
08:29:11.760manitoba to the east but what's going to change is our relationship with the rest of canada
08:29:19.680we are exploited we're treated as a colony we have taxation without representation we have taxation
08:29:27.600without representation the laws that are made that affect us that affect the safety of our community0.90
08:29:34.720the delivery of our health care are made in ottawa by politicians we can never elect1.00
08:29:40.400And that will always be the case. That's why Canada is structurally broken and doesn't work for Alberta anymore. So through independence, we're going to redefine our relationship with Canada. We're going to have one where our respect for us will be automatic because we are the wealth creators.0.96
08:30:03.480we're the hard workers we're the entrepreneurs we're the risk takers and we have the third
08:30:09.560largest reserve of oil in the world and we have the small one of the smallest populations
08:30:17.120relative to our oil reserves so if you look at countries in the middle east where the government
08:30:24.220there also owns the oil like the government here in alberta owns the oil um even though they have
08:30:30.400far higher population and not as much oil reserves as us they have no income tax they have free
08:30:37.200health care they have free education it is inevitable that in time if our economy is freed
08:30:43.600and we can supply the oil and gas to the world that so desperately wants it because we get rid
08:30:48.400of these ideologues in in on ontario and quebec and who keep voting in the guys in ottawa who are
08:30:55.040pursuing net zero will be able to create the most prosperous country in the world it's a fact
08:31:03.520yep so how do we change these people's minds who are still on the fence about moving forward
08:31:10.480with independence well you know you have different problems in politics the biggest problem is
08:31:15.440actually getting people to even pay attention to you right it's the you know we could do a little
08:31:20.560survey here and go walk down the street and bump into people and a whole bunch of them wouldn't
08:31:26.440even if you said what's the name of the premier of Alberta they'd go Joe Biden yep you know like
08:31:31.760I don't know what's a premier is that oh is that that soccer team yeah you know so uh and of course
08:31:38.500there's gradients of that so we've at one of the key uh important aspects of our campaign the
08:31:45.660campaign that Tanya and I are leading with Let Alberta Decide, LetAlbertaDecide.com.
08:31:51.340Derek, is that where they can go to donate?
08:51:46.720They even said, one of the Quebec politicians said,
08:51:50.100that it was a federal government overreach and authoritarianism and she was correct okay so
08:51:59.460the reality is is that the to the extent that the clarity act is inconsistent with the supreme
08:52:07.040court of canada decision which it is in many respects and to the extent that it purports
08:52:12.560to give exclusive control and sort of veto power to ottawa it's unconstitutional
08:52:20.240That's the approach that Quebec took back in 2000, and that's still the law there.
08:52:25.380So what I think should happen here, you've interviewed the premier, Premier Smith, and she's talked about her Sovereignty Act here and defending Alberta sovereignty within Canada.
08:52:37.320And that legislation, which I publicly supported and defended her when she introduced it many years ago, is there's a mechanism in there where the legislature here in Alberta can pass a resolution when they believe the federal government's intruding into provincial jurisdiction.
08:52:52.700This would be a perfect opportunity for the Premier to demonstrate her commitment to basic democratic principles, Alberta's sovereignty, follow Quebec's footsteps, pass a resolution in the legislature in the next session saying Albertans will decide whether the question is clear.
08:53:08.380Albertans will decide whether there's a clear majority, not Ottawa.
08:53:12.500Ottawa needs to stop playing this game.
08:53:14.340so to go to the final point that you raised um uh the legal obligation is of the federal government
08:53:21.340and the provinces to enter into good faith negotiations after a vote on a clear question
08:53:25.560with a clear majority if we will invite them the alberta government will invite them into those
08:53:30.560negotiations if they say oh no no we can't come because we haven't passed a resolution in the
08:53:35.520parliament under the claret act we say the meeting still next tuesday we will be there and if they
08:53:41.700don't show up then we say that's bad faith and they say oh we want a court interpretation we say
08:53:46.380that's bad faith if you've got an obligation to negotiate in good faith and we give them a period0.96
08:53:52.060of days just like I would in a litigation negotiation I'm not going to play silly bugger
08:53:56.160forever with the other side I'm going to say all right you got 60 days or you got 90 days or you
08:54:00.600got 30 days and then we would reach a point I think the negotiation should take 90 days
08:54:04.940because all of the things that we need to take over are known yeah right and the work of the
08:54:10.380transition council we're identifying all those things we're preparing term sheets and other
08:54:14.400things to help with the negotiations to shorten the timeline i think at some point the the the
08:54:20.920government of alberta after the vote will say um will say you've got 30 days if we don't reach a
08:54:29.540deal if you don't engage in good faith negotiations we're going to use paragraph 155 of the supreme
08:54:35.440Court of Canada decision, we're going to issue a unilateral declaration of independence for
08:54:40.400the new country of Alberta. And where do you suppose that would lead us? Because a lot of
08:54:44.980people, and they're going to say it, it goes to MAGA, it goes to the United States. Do you think
08:54:49.660President Trump at that point, or any country around the world, would come up, call Mark Carney
08:54:54.640and say, well, you know, I got to be honest, you know, that Alberta government, they're really
08:54:59.060something, okay, and they just call the unilateral declaration of independence, they're one of them.
08:55:03.380so we're going to recognize alberta do you think that's going to happen or do you think that
08:55:07.720uh we're going to have more tumbleweeds to get over before alberta can break away
08:55:10.840no i think it's going to happen right away okay because government's an artificial construct
08:55:15.320nice right i mean try and touch it they can't sit here in this room i can touch this
08:55:20.380yeah i can touch this fine man but that'll cost there there you go that's i got money
08:55:25.540donate so the point point is is that i think um i think the negotiations once we if we negotiate
08:55:36.360from our true position of strength which respectfully is not something the premier
08:55:40.900has done to date she went into this negotiation over this pipeline like if she was in a poker
08:55:46.220game and she barely had a pair of twos and the fact of the matter is she had three aces and two
08:55:50.200Kings phenomenal leverage so back to your specific question I think what will
08:55:56.880happen if they're gonna be vindictive you know Peter Lougheed when he was
08:56:01.700prime when he was premier and was getting frustrated with with the the
08:56:06.160Liberals in Ottawa the the federal government he announced that the
08:56:10.240government of Alberta if the federal government didn't come to the table
08:56:13.440would reduce the flow would reduce didn't actually do it would reduce the
08:56:18.780flow of nine line and five by 15 percent and they came to the table and they
08:56:24.020amended the Constitution and put in section 92a which by the way the federal
08:56:28.560government completely ignores and overrides right now so it didn't achieve
08:56:32.220much but that's the structural problem my point is if they really want to be
08:56:36.900mean and unfair and vindictive we have phenomenal leverage we can play we have
08:56:41.500direct control over whether or not two major sources of the canadian economy can carry on
08:56:51.160tomorrow which is the supply of energy to their to their localities so i i think we have tremendous
08:56:58.380strength um i cannot see a circumstance you know somebody said oh well the canadian government
08:57:06.480would send in the army well all right i mean let's just assume i know they're all the cannons
08:57:12.940i know okay we'd all put on safety glasses because they might throw tampons at us i get it you could
08:57:17.660get an abrasion on your eye um but assume they we actually had an army that hadn't been destroyed
08:57:24.840like the liberals have um like what are they going to do other than you know arrest me you know like
08:57:31.480are they going to arrest you too like are they going to arrest i don't know i'm guessing with
08:57:34.820my luck they probably would yeah so yeah gulag we go baby i'll be calling you keith yeah and i'm
08:57:39.580doing i'm doing black market tattoos you know and remember this this is super important for
08:57:43.920everybody to remember um is that in september of 2025 prime minister kearney announced that
08:57:53.060the government of canada was giving international recognition to the unilateral declaration of the
08:57:58.900state of palestine of nationhood they don't even define boundary at least alberta has a defined
08:58:03.780boundary, a defined people, a defined culture, and a defined economy. So he's refreshed and
08:58:08.780renewed the concept that an identifiable region can invoke paragraph 155 of the Supreme
08:58:16.140Canada decision and declare, engage in, make a unilateral declaration of independence. And you
08:58:22.660know that the Americans and President Trump's going to say, well, Prime Minister, you remember
08:58:27.260you did this in September 2025. I'm doing it now. You did it back then. I don't like that you did
08:58:32.340and you know the next country to recognize will no doubt be israel and there's at least 20 other
08:58:38.620countries that are going to recognize and the most important country to recognize us is our
08:58:43.160largest customer in the largest economy of the world that we supply the most of things to and
08:58:50.220not just oil and we know they're going to so we're in a tremendous position of strength and i think
08:58:56.300what will happen is we'll enter into a bilateral agreement with the rest of canada for mobility and
08:59:01.020trade i have a son in vancouver i still want to travel to vancouver people are gonna bc we ship
08:59:07.38030 billion dollars worth of oil through the tmx pipeline they ship 50 billion 50 billion dollars
08:59:15.140worth of goods through alberta on our highways and rail lines you know i got a question about that
08:59:20.220why are we paying a toll to get our oil over there and they're not paying anything to transport
08:59:24.360through alberta equivalent if they put a one dollar toll on the pipeline that would be an
08:59:29.560equivalent toll on one of the containers you know the container ships that come
08:59:32.620in from Asia that unload at Prince Rupert and and Vancouver 80% of those
08:59:38.020containers which is 900,000 of them an equivalent value for us to to do a
08:59:43.720reciprocal toll would be nine hundred dollars per container so that would be
08:59:48.160like eight hundred million dollars a year just on their container traffic if
08:59:52.540they want to play the toll game yeah let's play let's play let exactly we'll
08:59:56.860all be rolling in the dough so uh we it's so weird how well at least our governments have
09:00:03.880and maybe albertans have we think we're the underdog in this somehow we think that we've
09:00:08.700somehow maybe we need to apologize and beg we literally go to ottawa please sir may we work
09:00:15.300harder and generate more wealth so we can give more of it to you and you can tax us harder we've
09:00:20.440been treated as such for so long and all the other provinces think we are as well yeah and and we have
09:00:25.940so much strength so much inherent natural strength and it's time for us to exercise it
09:00:32.360I don't want to treat any other province unfairly I want to have adults in the room having a fair
09:00:38.700and respectful discussion that's what we can achieve that's what we're going to achieve
09:00:42.800and that's one of the things I always try to sell home on on the independence talk was that
09:00:48.160you know people say well you're landlocked no we're not people say oh you'd lose all your
09:00:52.120trade with Canada no they need us it's all that changes folks and this is why
09:00:56.520we keep pushing the easy conversation with your neighbors your friends
09:01:00.180everybody else the status quo is all that changes so it comes down to is your
09:01:05.620life better when it was five years ago ten years ago could it be better can
09:01:09.820Alberta do better Keith has said it before everyone said it before the
09:01:15.100answer plain and simple folks is yes let me ask you this though because when it
09:01:19.600comes to the negotiations and my audience asks a lot who would be upholding those negotiations
09:01:25.140because I'm not going to nitpick at Danielle Smith or get into the gossip circle about her
09:01:29.700but a lot of people have been disappointed with her actions when there was a post that was out0.94
09:01:34.140recently where people said I missed the old Danielle yeah and there was a clip showing her
09:01:37.460talking about our sovereignty about Ottawa overstepping and at one point in time I felt
09:01:42.200like this is our female Ralph Klein our female Peter Lougheed that's going to really stick the
09:01:47.540nails to Ottawa. And we've seen a 180 when it comes to the MOUs and even the formation of this1.00
09:01:53.080question. Now, I have no problem with the question because I think it's fair. We poll all of Alberta.
09:01:58.620Do you actually want to leave? But when it comes to the negotiations, if Danielle Smith is in charge
09:02:05.860of those negotiations, is she going to kick the can down the road? Or is there a higher power over1.00
09:02:10.980Danielle Smith with a successful vote to leave that can say, no, you're obligated to get us out
09:02:16.220here well there's a couple things there first of all um significantly what the premier said when
09:02:25.880she's been asked is that when she's been asked what she will do if albertans do decide to leave
09:02:32.960and she has said she will respect the will of the people and suggested that she would facilitate
09:02:38.160those negotiations right um and you talk about a higher power there is one it's called the
09:02:44.580electorate no politician has any power they derive their power from each one of us from each x that
09:02:51.100we put from each hour that we volunteer from each position we take on a constituency association
09:02:57.440board from each donation that we make from each door knocking that we do from each sign that we
09:03:01.740put up during an election campaign that's where their power comes from and if enough albertans
09:03:07.220speak and and and i think increasing number of albertans are discovering our worth our value
09:03:14.380And I think the leader of the province will reflect that.
09:03:20.400We need to take a strong position because we have a strong position.
09:03:24.420We will take a fair position, but that's not what's been happening to date.
09:03:27.960This pipeline agreement is an absolute fiasco.
09:03:32.720It's unrecognizable respectfully that a UCP government would support this agreement.
09:03:37.600It involves $40 billion of taxpayer money for the pipeline, for which no oil company has announced they will produce anything to put in it.
09:03:49.040The 10% interest by Pemina pipelines is not even a cash interest.
09:07:44.240I want to see those massive, massive numbers.
09:07:47.340We want these TPAs flush with cash to ensure not only Keith, not only Tanya, not only Kathy Flett, not only Jason Levine, not only Corey Morgan, all of them.
09:07:56.740All of them can get us over the finish line when it comes to the October 19th vote.
09:17:40.840Yeah, so just to give you an understanding, because we see all those numbers, those like
09:17:44.840$65,000 and all those numbers that you see there, just to give some perspective, for
09:17:50.120instance, if you organize, if when Let's Talk Alberta organized their town hall meetings,
09:17:56.320their costs can go anywhere from $5,000 to $8,000, just one town hall meeting.
09:18:03.060So when those guys from, let's say, Let's Talk Alberta decided to do a town hall meeting,
09:18:08.520When Jaycee Levine decides to do a town hall meeting, there are some costs attached to that.
09:18:13.940Even if you bring speakers from the outside, you have to bring people, like you have to pay hotels, even their planes, gas money, all those things add up.
09:18:25.980So you can easily get $5,000, $7,000 just for one town hall meeting.
09:18:32.980So that's why it's important, as we are going through this process prior to October 19, to contribute as generous as possible.
09:18:45.960Some people told me that who work at the government, even, who are not going to attend a town hall meeting because they fear about getting the loss to lose their jobs.
09:18:59.600there are people who are on one who cannot just seem the reason why I'm doing those livestreams
09:19:04.660because I got people who tell me in part that they cannot you can't come they can't come because they
09:19:10.020if they're if their boss or their or their family found out that they were in an independence town
09:19:17.580hall they're gonna get they're gonna get they're gonna lose their jobs I've seen people who lose
09:19:24.000their job just simply attending a town hall meeting. I've seen people that were discarding
09:19:30.840their families for the same reason, families raking apart because of that. So a lot of
09:19:35.040the challenge that we have here as a community is to pass those barriers, in fact. But I
09:19:42.800can tell you from the money perspective, it takes a lot of money to organize events like
09:19:49.280What Keith Wilson was saying is that we're going to do this,
09:19:53.580going to protect the signs, going to replace the signs.
09:20:22.680That's the importance to contribute to Alberta, Telton and all those TPAs.
09:20:27.400If you can't contribute right now, find somebody who can
09:20:31.540because the uphill bottom that we have is incredibly insane.
09:20:37.020Yes, we lost the stream at about 4.30 p.m.
09:20:40.300So we lost the stream because of an internet outage.
09:20:43.320But we've seen places where we have people who are legitimately physically attacking canvassers, who are attacking physical infrastructure, like power lines and stuff.
09:20:55.820Like I think with Jeff Radd, sometimes they lose power and they were still counting.
09:20:59.580And we had an attack in Red Deer last night where they wrote traitor on a sign and broke some windows.