If You Want ALBERTA Independence - You're Going To LOVE This!
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Join me as I chat with Mitch Sylvester, the Co-CEO of the Alberta Prosperity Project and Co-Founder of the Stay Free Alberta campaign. We discuss the recent Supreme Court ruling in the case of v. Justice Frisbee, and how the ruling sets the stage for the future of the province.
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hi it's john and welcome to the channel tuesday december the 23rd i hope you're having a great
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start to your tuesday merry christmas to you happy holidays as well and i am so pleased to have
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my guest you've seen him before here on my channel the ceo of the alberta prosperity project
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mitch sylvester with an especially large grin on his face today mitch i don't know if everybody's
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giving you any applause but to you and the alberta prosperity project i want to give you some
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applause today what a day it was yesterday you got approved you got accepted for uh i guess the
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signature campaign tell us about it and how you're feeling right now well it's been a pretty crazy
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week um but with bill with them changing the law on us uh with going from uh you know what we were
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assured that we were not going to win that court case uh after listening to justice frisbee and then
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um the uh conservative government changing the rules so that the citizens initiative act could
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actually be that the citizens initiative act so now they're going to give us the opportunity to
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actually have a voice in the state in the future of the province and i really think it's uh it's
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it's awesome i think it's democracy at its best uh if they allow it to play out uh the way uh the
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rules are set i wasn't expecting this yesterday i think it was maybe the 12th or the 13th when you
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um submitted uh the question again right around there i was expecting at least 30 days and boy
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it was 10. did you expect it to come yesterday this quick well no not at all as a matter of fact
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i gained a total surprise yeah you know just like i got a call on bill 14 at four o'clock in the
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afternoon i had no idea anything about it um but then you know what and it's just gone like quickly
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since then so um i mean there's obvious evidence that government can move quickly if they choose
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uh so yeah that started like in early december and now here we are uh 20 days later uh you know
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we're into two different steps of the process and now uh on our way to the last one so you know what
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uh we couldn't ask for more no i mean basically we have to be very thankful that we're given the
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opportunity to do the work and the opportunity to bring the information to albertans and the
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opportunity to have all albertans choose on something that i think is an absolutely non-partisan
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subject i think every albertan will benefit from from uh going down the path that we're proposing
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i really do i i certainly do as well so what is january 2nd i read that date yesterday what's the
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significance of that well january 2nd is when elections alberta is going to be able to start
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certifying or approving our canvassers so so what we're asking alberta prosperity and everybody
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is by tomorrow morning we're going to have a link uh we actually would like to have everybody in
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alberta be a canvassers so what we'd like you to do is just go to our link which is going to be
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on the new stay free alberta uh web page is what we're going to call our campaign
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and and so uh we're going to have that set up by tomorrow i hope and then we'll have every we'll
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have a place there for you to donate money to us which is going to be absolutely crucial based on
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the new rules so we're starting at ground zero with nothing uh so your contribution is not only going
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to be very much appreciated and it's going to be very needed and we'll have rules around that
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there's there's rules around it so the rules will be clear uh on our website uh you know or our landing
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page on on that particular subject and we'll we'll get that information out to people but yeah so you
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know what we have the opportunity to go out there talk to people uh we're going to continue our town
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halls yeah you know we're we're all over alberta calgary out of 26 i think is going to be a big kickoff
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for that area we're looking 26th of january we're looking forward to that oh yeah yes and we have
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a lot of room uh there's going to be about 6 500 seats there so we're hoping to fill the hall and i
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really believe we will so if that's the case then we're going to you know take extend that into all
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of the uh bigger communities uh so that we we have the opportunity to talk to a lot of people at once
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and you know what sign them up as canvassers so that they can get our message out and uh you know
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get as many people as we can signed up to this uh initiative we're i was talking to the other day
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there's an event i'm going to be at on january 10th um regarding the independence movement it's going to
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be exciting and there's so many more of those coming up um we're talking the other day about
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the amount of money that might be needed for this because certainly the other side is going to have
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a campaign i'm assuming against us to try to get people to vote in the opposite direction to what we
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really want here can i just spell a myth here mitch you're making a fortune running around the
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province um every night of the week well going out and talking to people aren't you so you know
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the thing the thing that people have to understand about this is that first of all i'm not making
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a wage uh app is covering expenses which is gas money hotels and meals uh that's exactly what i'm
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making so i just want you to compute this i bought a brand new truck in march it's got 72 000 kilometers
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on it so if i'm getting paid gas money and meals and expense are they going to factor in the
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depreciation on my brand new truck right yeah i mean and i my adult though when i had before it
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uh doing the same thing with alberta pension and never got a nickel for that so we did 100 town halls
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with alberta pension and never got paid uh so now at least in the situation i'm at now i'm getting
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expenses covered which is really nice i appreciate that and that's all i want yeah so so you know what
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for me that's fine i'm in a position where that's enough but uh the whole thing is is that uh this
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is not about money except for the people of alberta it's not about money for me uh it i mean
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eventually maybe if i get an increase in pension maybe that'll be the case but right now it's about
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the fact that alberta's getting a really raw deal it's about the fact that we're really looking down
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the throat of a very dangerous ally enemy here i really believe the enemy is at the gates i really
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believe that our freedoms are being challenged i if you look at the bills that are coming in from
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the federal government one after the other they're all nonsensical and stuff that you know they're
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proposing stuff that would never ever that i would have never thought a canadian government would
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ever propose so i really believe we have a very strong argument uh to show people that hey this
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isn't the canada that you grew up in this isn't the canada that i grew up in we're we're not
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leaving canada canada's leaving us uh and we believe in my heart i really honestly believe this
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if we save alberta and i know we can uh then you know what we can help the rest of canada save
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themselves and i really believe that you know that may sound dramatic but there's no drama here this
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is absolutely what's happening if anything we're underplaying it we're not overplaying it and it's a
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you know i mean you don't have to go far i'm not by myself uh by sharing this opinion so if people
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by after they attend our town halls don't believe that this is real uh then that's their choice right
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this is a democracy they have a vote we have a vote and let's hope that uh once they hear what we have
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to say that they'll actually think that maybe we should you know err on the side of caution and vote
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for an independent of it i like to ask people who are kind of skeptical and i've talked i talked to
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people about this and they say why are you why do you want this and i said well why don't you um i
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want to be positive as possible i think and moving forward i think that's important how can people
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benefit from this mitch but i say you know knowing everything that's going on right now with with
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canada with the cost of living with the fact that we're having issues getting pipelines through or the
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province is talking about putting a pipeline to the south part of alberta to go across the united
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states to get a pipeline to tidewater would you join canada now if you had the opportunity
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would you really do that honestly and that's the question i asked him and it's a good way to start
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up a conversation here you know i i was wondering you know i was looking at um your x feed yesterday
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hopefully i can bring it up here and you you tweeted out a picture about global news are you concerned
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and i wrote down here are you prepared for the meltdown that's coming and i was thinking maybe
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you know pardon pardon the expression but the shit show that might be coming now that this is getting
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closer um we've talked about what the other side might do are you prepared for what might be coming
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down the line because there's a picture i'll put it in post into this interview of the event we had
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on october 25th and of course they had to include american flag there and of course that brings the idea
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of 51st state up and this has got nothing to do with the 51st state match oh this has got nothing to
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do with the 51st state even though our question has stayed in it and the reason that our question
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had stayed in it is because that's exactly what it says in the clarity act and and our question
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had to be foolproof and as history is now showing us it was right yeah yeah we got we got to the next
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level uh they challenged our last question uh based on uh you know whatever the fact that it was going
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to violate people's rights by asking a question which i think is ridiculous but however that's my
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personal opinion um so i really believe that in order for us to move this forward we took the wording
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of that question right out of the clarity so that let's let's dispel the myth that this has any
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connection to the united states because if you look it up in a dictionary state and country have
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very much the same definition actually state is a little clearer uh if anything so there's many nations
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in the world that are nation state and that's what we're going to be that doesn't tie us to the u.s
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so just wanted to make that very clear just to start with the other thing is is that i've had
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the opportunity to talk to americans in government and uh they're of the opinion and it would be an
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almost impossible task to include another nation state another state into the u.s right now based
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on the way their politics is built because they're going to need democrats to approve it and the democrats
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are never going to improve uh approve another solidly republican state which is what alberta would be
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uh so just understand that and and why would we want to go from one devil to the next when we could
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absolutely run our own stuff and uh be 100 independent of either the canadian government
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and the u.s government and you know what happens to us if they elect another democrat uh in the next
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term like we're not wanting to deal with that we never want to deal with that again on either side
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they can elect all the liberals they want in the east and if we're an independent alberta have at it
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we don't care we'll just run our own stuff and that's the whole idea we are annexed in the first
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place we didn't have a choice so so now uh we're wanting a choice on whether we want to join
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confederation or not and you know what i think there's a lot of albertans that want out i was
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talking the other day i was saying to people i won't i won't keep you much longer i know you're busy but
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talking to people the other day and i said if you were asked to ask people who are wanting an
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independent alberta maybe their top three things i think every one of them would say
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uh we're tired of paying equalization payments we're tired of quebec getting a lot of our money
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the story came out that they're getting about half of all equalization payments it's it's an amazing
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amount of money it's being siphoned right from the western part of canada into the eastern part of
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canada canada and you know i was thinking about the not 51 mitch but i was thinking about 61
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i was thinking about 61 because if you go back four years in this province there was a referendum here
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and 61 of the people in this province voted to end equalization payments to the rest of canada
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because they're tired of giving money i think for the most part to quebec and if we could get a large
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percentage of those people who need to understand it's never going to happen the way things are right
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now in canada and the only way that can happen is if alberta becomes an independent state a country of
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its own okay so democracy democracy our confederation is working exactly the way it's
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supposed to so once everybody understands that we have six senators and we have 4.4 million people
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and the ameritimes have 30 senators and they have 2.2 million people that once you understand that very
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simple fact they can change that in a heartbeat they can flip that around they can say okay alberta gets
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30 senators or maritime ships 15 so because based on that math that would be reasonable right right so
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so what i'm saying is that and and the other house it's the same thing they they don't want alberta to
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have power because in 1905 they decided that alberta is going to fund the east and that's never changed
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and the fact that quebec brought quebec up with the equalization well they get to not put their biggest
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industry in the equation so if they don't put the income from hydro quebec in there well that makes
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them have not province right so that cannot be fair like if you're if you're in a buying group
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in stores i allude to this all the time if you're in a group that's supposed to make everybody more
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prosperous which is what confederation is supposed to do it's absolutely supposed to be a better deal
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for everybody concerned and as a group you buy together or do whatever you need to do or build
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together or grow together so that the whole group benefits that would be that would be remarkable we
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wouldn't be having this conversation but alberta it's a one-way flow out of alberta and to the to
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the extent that we're going to have 35 to 40 billion dollar a year surplus now that is a lot of money it is
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you you can build a world-class hospital for a billion dollars and that would be you know 35 of
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them annually just understand that i mean i don't know if that computes uh people don't understand
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how much that money is and people are going to have to come to the grips to grips with the fact
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that what's happening in the east is not only anti-alberta it's anti-canada and it's not hard to
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to show it yeah i mean they're continuing continuing to run deficits and they're sabotaging our biggest
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industries so i want to understand something how can you continue to run 30 40 50 billion dollar
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deficits year after year after year after year and you're borrowing more and more money paying more
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and more interest on it and yet you sabotage our biggest industry and you don't allow us to
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generate money to pay those bills so if you're not allowing a payback and you're actually just
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borrowing you're consciously trying to break the country there's there's no other way to explain it
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if anybody that's in business wants to explain to me how you can continue to borrow money and then
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shut your revenue stream off uh how that ever works uh with interest i'd be very interested to see how
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that could possibly work so if unless they change their tack uh there's absolutely no other way to say
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this they're trying to bankrupt the country period and once you understand that alberta's part of that
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we don't have to participate in that we can once we leave that mess uh we can control our own
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borders make our own get away from liberal policies and get away from all the nonsense that they're
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doing over there we can get away from their taxation away from their policies our people could be
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immediately richer and we would have a chance to control our own pipelines like say for example
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this pipeline to the south we could negotiate with the americans as alberta being a country
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but we could we cannot do it as alberta being a province that's so so just saying so if that's the
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case how are we possibly going to move forward when they keep inventing reasons why we can't pull
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oil out of the ground in alberta yet everybody else in the world is selling more oil than they
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were the year before does that make sense yeah you know when when people ask me as well why i want
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independence i said we won't have to ask for permission of ottawa to do things anymore in this
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province and i think that's a big part of it for me now um just a final question for you
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where do i sign when can i sign when you figure i'll be able to put my john hancock down there
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or my john bolton in this place on a petition because i'm so excited i can hardly wait to do that
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so when can people expect to do that for maybe the first day so so john let me let me help you out
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here yeah i want you to become a canvasser oh yeah for sure yeah i want you that's the first thing
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i want you to do and we're going to make that available to you tomorrow so i want you to go out
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there and i want everybody that's listening to go out there because everybody has three or four or
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five or ten people that they can actually get to sign on this based on the fact that they know these
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people and it's and no one else can get at them so this is going to be the way that we can win this
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so the first thing you have to do and i'll answer your question the first thing you have to do
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is you have to become a canvasser and you have to talk to people you know and get them to sign and
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or take a step forward and become canvassers and and then the other thing you need to do is to give
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us five ten twenty fifty dollars whatever everybody give us something and we'll we'll we'll do it
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whatever you can afford would be fantastic so then when we get our canvassers approved
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which is going to be after the second of january uh when elections alberta comes back to work
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then once our canvassers are approved and our petitions are out there then you will be able to
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start signing i believe early january 5th 6th 7th somewhere in that area great good good to hear
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because they're on holidays now right yeah and i just want to ask you a question a coincidence
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that they're on holidays the day after they approve our question i'm so happy i'm not i'm not bitching
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about it i'm just saying it's a coincidence so it's just everybody's so anxious to get going
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um that this is just going to hold us up and it's not us it's because of the fact that elections
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alberta is actually on christmas break and that they won't be able to approve our canvassers until
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after the new year but we don't start till january 2nd so it's actually not going to affect us
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okay and and just to let you know the alberta prosperity project and mitch are working over
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the holidays it could be a lot of work to do between now and then i'm assuming correct
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you know what john it doesn't seem like work yeah you know we're i've been at it since early this
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morning and uh you know there's such an energy such an excitement uh out there amongst our group
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um you know what there is there's hope yeah i i think i think i think that's the word that
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everybody has to come to grips with here yeah up until you know very recently there's a lot of people
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in this province myself included uh we're not very happy with the path um you know stuff that never
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would have occurred to me before i'm wondering where i was going to move to if this didn't work
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uh we're happy to stay here we're happy to participate in the growth of alberta uh you know
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in in any capacity um and we're happy to you know to to do things that are going to benefit the rest of
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us but there's a true hope now amongst our people amongst app people and i really believe that amongst
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a lot of people in alberta that are having a harder time than people realize and i think we can help
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get them out of that and the other thing is is that there's hope for the future for our kids and our
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men kids and i think that because of that we're very energized we'll leave it at that it's a great
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way to end this for sure again congratulations um we appreciate all the work you're doing the app is
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doing there's so many volunteers out there um you've been working on this for a long long time you know i
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i can't believe and you said it off the top it's hard to believe what's happened just since the
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beginning of this year it really is just amazing what's happened in this year well it's amazing what's
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happened in the last 10 days well yeah yeah and and you know we were before you know eight or nine
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months ago i had nothing to do with app either so this is all brand new to me and i'm very happy that
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uh you know it's such a great group there and uh they're supporting us and me and everything that
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we're doing and and and the path that we're taking and you know i have to thank everybody that's
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involved all your listeners merry christmas and uh let's go get them yeah let's go for sure uh
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thanks again mitch always great to talk to you have a very merry christmas i think santa has already
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been good to you yeah it's a great christmas present for sure for all of us we're excited about
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what's coming up in 2026 uh thanks again take care john mitch sylvester ceo of the alberta
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prosperity project uh good things coming in 2026 and a great christmas present for sure if you like
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