John Bolton - September 17, 2026


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00:00:00.000 Hi, it's John and welcome to the channel. It is great to have you along today. And this
00:00:08.920 is unlike any other chat I've had on my channel before, having so many people at once. But
00:00:15.220 when this goes up, it will be almost exactly one month until the big vote on October the
00:00:20.900 19th. I thought it'd be interesting to get a number of the people who are part of the
00:00:25.340 independence movement working real hard out there right now uh on a chat to find out where we are
00:00:30.540 where we're going and how we can win this thing uh so we might have a few more people dropping in
00:00:36.120 before we get uh over and into the hour here uh over the next little bit but i'd like to welcome
00:00:41.620 the people we've got on the screen right now tanya clemens from let alberta decide cory morgan
00:00:46.920 pathway to independence and jason levine from the levine show angela taback and kathy flatt
00:00:53.040 Alberta Women for Independence. Bruce Party is here from Ontario. I thought it'd be interesting
00:00:58.060 to have Bruce here, somebody who's outside the province who is very interested in the Alberta
00:01:02.420 independence movement. I thought it'd be interesting to have him here as well. I'm
00:01:06.920 hoping that Chris Scott can drop in as well. We'll try to keep an eye on the screen and see if Chris
00:01:11.020 can be here from Let's Talk Alberta. Thank you so much, everybody. It was great getting all together
00:01:16.980 and everybody could be on at the same time. Thank you. Thank you for hosting us, John. This is
00:01:22.620 amazing. Okay. So what I want to do, just a few ground rules here. We do have a lot of people.
00:01:26.600 I don't want to be here all day. This could go on for hours. So we're going to try to keep this
00:01:30.900 as loosey goosey, as informal as possible. I'm going to try to lead this discussion over the
00:01:35.520 next little while. But if you can be brief, if possible, that way everybody can have a say in
00:01:40.840 what's going on here as well. And we don't want to reveal any of our strategies, okay? Because
00:01:45.280 who knows who may be watching this as we put it up online as well. So, and if you have to bail out
00:01:52.040 from this and you have to leave, feel free to do that. We appreciate your time here today.
00:01:56.500 So I want to start off by asking Corey a question right off the top here. Corey,
00:02:00.920 I've had a chance to talk to everybody that we've got on this chat here, this super chat here today.
00:02:06.080 I remember talking to you a number of times. You tried to do what we're doing right now
00:02:12.120 two decades ago, I guess. I remember you saying we were at about 35% when it came to
00:02:18.720 um support for alberta independence many months ago how are you feeling about things right now i
00:02:23.760 thought it'd be interesting to get your perspective on this it's really tough you know i feel and i
00:02:29.920 don't like to say and admit it but i feel that it kind of reflects the polls i i think the 30 to 35
00:02:35.920 percent of very committed independent supporters that was there then is is if anything more
00:02:40.640 committed now and more organized and working on things but i can't get a good read on that mushy
00:02:47.120 middle that we so desperately need to bring over if we're going to keep this going. I'm feeling
00:02:53.460 that with our campaigning, we are converting people. I get that sense in going to public
00:02:59.220 events and with online work and such. But at the same time, that's anecdotal. I've got a degree of
00:03:05.500 confirmation bias when I'm going to my own events. It's hard to get a feeling when we've got a
00:03:10.360 barrage from all of the establishment media and academics and dried up old politicians explaining
00:03:17.100 to us why this is going nowhere. I'm feeling a sense of optimism. I've never seen anything like
00:03:23.140 this. That's what's hard about it is it's so unprecedented. But I think we're really doing
00:03:29.520 well and going in the right direction. But to get a solid measure, boy, that's just, you know, again,
00:03:34.200 people ask, but it's nailing jello to a wall. Yeah. I'm just wondering, other than Bruce and
00:03:39.840 myself, we don't have signs. We're not out there with volunteers. We don't have a third party.
00:03:45.900 we're not third-party advertisers. Maybe Jason, Tanya, we'll start off with Jason. How are you
00:03:51.100 feeling out there? What are you, what are you getting from out on the road when you're traveling
00:03:54.580 around and delivering your signs? Well, at the beginning, we absolutely had a great demand for
00:04:00.540 the signs. We couldn't hold on to them. Every time we did a stop, they were gone, but that has
00:04:05.840 teetered off a little bit. The demand for the large signs is still pretty strong, but the lawn
00:04:11.000 signs has gone down. And I think that's probably because a lot of people that wanted one, got one,
00:04:15.900 this stage there's so many available so everybody kind of got what they were looking for but going
00:04:21.260 into whether or not there's a demand or a growing demand for independence itself at our events i'm
00:04:26.940 not seeing a lot of new faces i'm seeing a lot of people that already support things but what
00:04:32.060 they're coming to our events for now is to collect information to take back into the community back
00:04:37.100 into workplaces back to their families to have conversations and what i am hearing from them is
00:04:42.220 more and more people are open to talking about it now whereas at the very beginning people just
00:04:46.460 completely shut down the conversation now at this stage people are more receptive to learning about
00:04:51.980 what some of the details are why it may work for us and i think that's a combination of all the
00:04:56.620 tpas out there providing information and kind of opening the conversation so it's not so taboo
00:05:02.140 it's okay to talk about it a little bit more now so people are leaving our events with information
00:05:07.100 like my book and Bruce's book and stuff that they pick up in the event itself to take back to their
00:05:12.320 their lives to share with other people. Daniel, I'll ask you the same question.
00:05:16.100 Then we'll maybe if anybody else wants to jump in, that's great. But we can maybe move on to
00:05:19.860 something else and we can get Bruce's perspective as well from what he's seeing from somebody who
00:05:23.700 comes from Ontario. But what are you hearing out there right now? I mean, I saw a post on X. You've
00:05:29.020 got, I mean, is it more than a thousand large signs out there or something right now? It's just
00:05:33.740 pretty crazy and everywhere i go i'm seeing signs around the province yeah i don't think we have
00:05:38.920 quite that many large signs but we have hundreds of large signs across the province and then we
00:05:43.940 created like a really uh sophisticated infrastructure for monitoring where those
00:05:49.640 large signs go and then also looking at where they should be placed based on the most traffic
00:05:55.500 that we would get for being able to see them so the visibility and making sure that that was a
00:06:00.240 priority. And now I think that our signs are being seen by over 6 million Alberta drivers
00:06:06.040 every single day, which is awesome. And then if you couple that into like all of the TPAs
00:06:12.100 that have their big signs out there, because like I just I showed you guys before we actually
00:06:16.140 joined on this call that I have the Cory Morgan sign on one of our highways on two of our
00:06:20.560 highways, actually, and it's getting tons of visibility, a very busy sign. If we combine
00:06:24.460 knows all they're being seen by a ton of people.
00:06:27.680 So I'm feeling very great about our sign campaign
00:06:31.820 and what we've done and the visibility that's out there
00:06:33.740 and that people are seeing that
00:06:35.540 and that our signs are very specific in their mandate.
00:06:39.820 Like for instance, ours is just let Alberta decide,
00:06:42.860 vote option two. 0.99
00:06:44.240 It's a very specific call to action.
00:06:47.140 There's not too much that you wouldn't understand about that.
00:06:50.220 And I think that it's really getting the message
00:06:53.060 out there very clearly.
00:06:54.460 I'm wondering, maybe I'll go to Angela, Alberta Women for Independence.
00:06:58.640 Do you have anything to add to that?
00:07:01.320 Well, kind of like Corey, it's kind of hard.
00:07:04.460 It's kind of hard to say, really.
00:07:07.400 Although we are seeing more and more folks coming out to our meetings who had never been to a meeting before.
00:07:13.020 You know, I always ask at the beginning of the meeting, who has never been to a meeting before?
00:07:17.500 And we're seeing more and more of those hands going up and folks just saying, hey, you know what?
00:07:21.220 just here for the information i haven't decided yet which is just absolutely fantastic so we are
00:07:26.500 seeing a rise in that you know i did get an interesting text from a neighbor of mine
00:07:31.940 the other day he's in sales um not in an industry that you would think would um like it's not oil
00:07:39.060 and gas it's an industry that you would think would be more liberal and i'm just going to reach
00:07:43.380 you really quick he says i was at a work conference this weekend and granted the demographic was a
00:07:48.900 bunch of independent contractors paying their own taxes but everyone i talked to was voting for a
00:07:54.260 future vote so the discussions are being had and in places that maybe we wouldn't expect i'm
00:08:01.940 wondering bruce uh you know it's funny we we've got jason here myself i'm from ontario originally
00:08:07.140 jason's from ontario originally we're sort of outsiders you live in ontario i know you're
00:08:11.460 thinking of maybe transplanting yourself here to alberta and you're seeing these people who
00:08:16.100 are on the screen right now who are doing such great work i mean it's just remarkable all the
00:08:20.900 hard work they're putting into this what's your perspective on this what are you seeing is this
00:08:25.700 being discussed in ontario it's one thing to read the media but it's another thing to actually be
00:08:31.220 there yeah no it's not registering in ontario people are not talking about it uh and to the
00:08:39.940 extent that it is, I think people are quite dismissive of it. It's regarded as a fringe
00:08:47.120 thing. I'm sorry that Albertans can't see to what extent Ontarians are dismissing the
00:08:54.320 whole thing and sort of thumbing their nose at it. If they could, it would be a great
00:09:01.580 motivator to get Albertans to vote in favor of it. This is, as far as I can see, the rest
00:09:07.820 of the country, or certainly in Ontario, people are not noticing it. They don't think it's
00:09:12.920 important. They don't think it has a chance, partly because of the way the mainstream media
00:09:17.340 has portrayed it. But if anything, that response is another good reason why people should vote in
00:09:26.100 favor of it. Okay, gotcha. Now, Kathy, maybe I can throw this out to everybody and you can have
00:09:31.500 a discussion about this. We have about a month to go. It's hard to believe it's come to this
00:09:36.260 point already. I knew the summer would go by quickly. We talked about things really kicking
00:09:40.780 off after Labor Day. I think that's the case. I think you're seeing a ramp up from the other side
00:09:45.320 in propaganda. We saw this release of this document with what was at University of Calgary.
00:09:50.020 I'm seeing that spreading everywhere like wildfire. I know that the Alberta Transition Council
00:09:55.000 will be releasing something similar next week. What do you think we need to do to try to get
00:10:00.260 out the vote of those undecided people? Corey described it as the mushy middle when he was
00:10:05.180 answering earlier. What do you think we should do? And maybe we can throw it to the rest of you
00:10:08.940 to maybe get some ideas here so that we can win this thing on the 19th. Kathy?
00:10:13.600 I think we need to do what we're doing. Keep going. Don't stop. I know a lot of people are
00:10:19.860 tired right now. They've been campaigning for a long time. They were outside in the cold getting
00:10:25.340 those signatures. And I get that. I understand that. But this is not the time to take the foot
00:10:30.300 up the gas pedal the other thing that we need to do because it's working is just follow follow the
00:10:37.180 model that angela and i have created where we go to those home meetings to those more private
00:10:42.620 settings that's where the mushy middle are coming out that's where the people who are opposed are
00:10:47.660 coming out because it's much more comfortable to sit around a kitchen table and have these
00:10:52.060 conversations with with strangers that are maybe having some different views than yours than it is
00:10:57.180 in a great big meeting where you're really not sure what what the differential between the two
00:11:02.220 sides is and that's where the flip is happening is in those smaller meetings so i think that's
00:11:07.980 that's where it's gonna it's gonna be at the kitchen table or at the dining room table or the
00:11:14.300 restaurant table coffee shop table where that flip happens and takes place just before i get
00:11:20.300 everybody else in on this where we need to go is do you think that there is a feeling out
00:11:24.540 there amongst people that they feel uncomfortable talking about this we've seen the flag that's in
00:11:29.980 behind me almost become a hate symbol over the last little while much like the canadian flag
00:11:33.660 became a hate symbol a few years back in ottawa but do you think people are scared about this that
00:11:38.940 they they don't want to talk about it and they may be holding back their thoughts on this and might
00:11:43.900 vote in favor of option two in the fall anybody wants to jump in go right ahead
00:11:48.940 you know there's definitely been a large closeted segment of independent supporters there always has
00:11:56.060 been and that that's something that's been brilliant with this open discussion with rational
00:12:00.380 people with public meetings with signage with online discourse more people are realizing
00:12:05.260 it's an acceptable conversation to have it's sad that it had to come to this and we see that with
00:12:10.460 the opponents i mean i've been involved in politics and independent media for quite some time i've
00:12:15.500 gotten many very nasty communications from people and things before but i've never seen a barrage of
00:12:22.520 people trying to shout me down as heavily as they have and as viscerally as i've been getting as i
00:12:28.940 have in this last few months it's unbelievable but it's because i think that the federalists
00:12:33.320 those married to the status quo do understand the biggest threat to them is open discussion
00:12:38.220 they don't want to see it they understand that all roads lead to independence once a person thinks
00:12:43.380 about it long enough and that's the front that they're coming at us with so whether we'll be
00:12:49.200 able to pierce that that discussion chill enough by october 19th remains to be seen but we're
00:12:55.000 definitely making massive inroads with albertans to bringing these conversations out into the open
00:12:59.560 jason what do you think uh from my perspective i think a lot of the the attacks that you're seeing
00:13:05.400 are just online they don't actually transpire in the real world we've had maybe three or four
00:13:11.180 people in all of our campaigning that would give us a thumbs down stop by make a comment and then
00:13:15.820 drive away but I see the people pushing it online the flag for example trying to attack Sobeys
00:13:22.980 because they were doing the flag for Alberta products I think that actually backfired John
00:13:27.400 when people were trying to turn the flag into a hate symbol it actually didn't work because
00:13:32.320 Albertans are very proud very very proud of their province and the flag so when someone attacked the
00:13:37.940 flag in that way or try to turn it into a symbol like that it actually backfired and maybe opened
00:13:42.040 up a few more eyes for people that say wait a minute it's our flag there's no way that that's
00:13:46.640 a negative thing and i don't think it's working so from my perspective we have no problems at
00:13:52.660 events nobody's protesting outside and nobody's coming in and disrupting we had one person in
00:13:58.460 all campaigning that includes a signature period that did that and then maybe half a dozen people
00:14:03.220 on the street and that's it for for the last six months anybody else want to just kind of focus in
00:14:08.500 on what we need to do over the next four weeks up until the 19th yeah i'll just piggyback off of what
00:14:14.180 jason said oh sorry tanya um okay uh see what what we're what i'm finding anyways angela i'm not i
00:14:21.700 don't know if it's the same for you down down in the meetings that you're having but what i'm
00:14:25.860 finding at the meetings we're having is that the forever canada folks are coming out like last
00:14:31.060 night there was four of them and they were there to cause a disturbance they weren't there to learn
00:14:36.100 they were there to argue and they were there to fight and and so but then one of them walked away
00:14:43.140 going oh i never thought about that before i'm like imagine what happens when you come out and
00:14:48.660 we reason together yes here we are right um so they are coming out maybe it just depends on the
00:14:55.460 event it depends on what what it's about it depends how many of us are there if they feel
00:15:00.420 like they can come i'm not sure but they've been coming to to our public events and and causing a
00:15:06.180 bit of a ruckus which is fine we're up for it and we're we're ready to take that on and take on the
00:15:10.340 challenge and answer their questions as best we can can you you wanted to uh to jump in there
00:15:15.860 yeah i just wanted to like say that we need to keep in perspective too but the question before
00:15:20.980 us is that i know that we're all in favor of independence and that's kind of the path that
00:15:26.100 we're seeking but that's not the question that's before us because we have this referendum on a
00:15:29.940 referendum the question is being proposed to albertans do you want to stay with the status quo
00:15:36.900 do you want to be subjected to more of what ottawa has delivered to us and will continue to deliver
00:15:42.580 to us or do you want to possibly pursue something better and give our alberta government the leverage
00:15:50.340 and the negotiating strength that it's never had before when dealing with ottawa that's the question
00:15:54.900 that's before us this is non-binding vote independence is not even on the table right now
00:16:00.740 so people kind of get lost in that thinking that this is this is a vote about staying or leaving
00:16:05.780 canada but that's not what the question is and then just the second quick thing is i think that
00:16:10.580 when we are like advertising that that's and speaking to what that question is that we do it
00:16:18.180 with a place of some grace and openness to allow people to give their perspective instead of
00:16:25.300 meeting them immediately with hostility and anger and aggression this has to be an open space where
00:16:31.140 people can discuss it because independence is not on the table right now but what is on the table
00:16:36.180 is how ottawa has treated alberta and if we are okay with continuing that or if we want to give
00:16:42.980 ourselves some negotiating strength to come to the table with a seat of power and actually have an
00:16:50.500 adult conversation about this i'm wondering i'm sorry go ahead go ahead go ahead uh no i just
00:16:56.580 wanted to to to say that i think that's exactly right if you put this in conventional campaign
00:17:03.060 terms it's always said that you you need to try to define the ballot question and the and the ballot
00:17:11.380 question here, I think, has to be, are you happy with the status quo? And if the answer is yes,
00:17:18.960 you vote that way. And if the answer is no, you vote for having another vote. And as long as the
00:17:26.580 ballot question is independence, the chances go down. But if the ballot question, as Tanya has
00:17:33.240 described, if the ballot question is all about endorsing the status quo or not, then the thing
00:17:40.060 changes. Is that message getting out there? Do you think enough of the people on the other side,
00:17:45.560 I think some of them are lost cause, the mushy middle is the people we need. I think
00:17:48.880 young people are ripe for the picking as we get closer to the actual vote on the 19th. But do you
00:17:54.840 think that's the message that's out there? Do you think a lot of the people who are voting for the
00:17:57.860 other side even realize that this isn't a vote about independence, this is about a vote for
00:18:04.020 another vote? Maybe, Angela, you can answer that one and then we'll kind of go around the table
00:18:07.760 here well we've seen the only tactic that they really have is fear-mongering and so they are
00:18:13.840 going to be hammering the exact opposite of what tanya just said you know that oh no this is about
00:18:19.680 independence this is about uncertainty and blah blah blah i'm very very careful in the meetings
00:18:25.280 to point out that option one has a very large period at the end of that statement alberta will
00:18:31.520 remain a province in canada period end of discussion option two allows us to continue
00:18:38.080 that discussion and so really i do think that that as bruce has said that is the point that
00:18:43.680 we need to be hammering home is that option one is just the end of the discussion you get what you
00:18:51.040 get and we don't have a right to complain and option two is let us allow this discussion to
00:18:58.480 continue to come to the bargaining table with the rest of canada and and like tanya said i love it
00:19:05.120 have an adult conversation i really like that the period at the end i really like that anybody else
00:19:10.000 want to add to that i i do i do want to talk about that report you you mentioned earlier so the dr
00:19:16.000 mince report uh there's a lot of headlines out there trying to make it look like it's going to
00:19:19.920 be a terrible thing for alberta but if you actually read the report it actually says it's achievable
00:19:24.640 it's affordable and Alberta can prosper the only variable is how hard is Canada going to fight and
00:19:30.560 how hard is Canada going to make the actual transition to a nation and if you really take
00:19:35.920 a close look at that it's almost a threat Canada can make it very difficult for Alberta and people
00:19:42.000 are actually pointing to that as the most likely outcome even though that was the most serious
00:19:46.240 outcome that was actually identified in a report and even in that situation it's achievable so
00:19:52.720 Well, let's take a look at that report for what it is.
00:19:54.700 It was a pretty honest report.
00:19:56.180 I didn't think it was biased or one-sided.
00:19:58.880 It did lay out a spectrum, but from $50 billion all the way to $170,000, if Canada is not cooperative.
00:20:05.460 And that kind of highlights one of the reasons why we should be looking at option two.
00:20:09.160 If on the table is Canada's response is going to be negative and hostile,
00:20:13.320 maybe we don't want to be part of that relationship anymore and take a further step.
00:20:16.740 So I do appreciate Dr. Minns on providing that report, and I'm glad it's out there now.
00:20:21.040 okay anybody else want to add something just with that report the way i framed it one of those fact
00:20:27.340 checks i do every morning for with sheila gun reid with rebel media i pointed out actually if you
00:20:31.740 look at the trend well this began with apparently it was going to cost 400 billion to get out and
00:20:35.740 then it went down to 200 billion with the canada west and now it's down to maybe 50 billion hey if
00:20:40.340 we're talking 50 billion as investment costs to get the heck out of this status quo that doesn't
00:20:45.400 sound like such a bad deal to me. You know, as we actually dig down on this issue, we're finding
00:20:51.040 that the case for independence is actually much stronger than the initial dismissive people were.
00:20:56.700 It's not like they're doing these studies and finding a bunch more reasons that this shouldn't
00:21:01.620 be done. In fact, their case is getting weaker the more that they actually study it. I don't think
00:21:06.500 we're going to see too many reports, or at least not honest ones, coming out the next six weeks.
00:21:10.440 Jason actually had a good one saying that if we keep going, it'll get down to zero eventually.
00:21:17.440 There won't be any money at all.
00:21:20.500 Go ahead.
00:21:22.380 And what those reports don't show is what is the cost of staying in Canada?
00:21:26.540 They always assign us this portion of the debt of Canada, but we have that portion guaranteed if we remain.
00:21:34.700 So you've got to factor that in as well.
00:21:37.060 You bet.
00:21:38.860 Anyone else?
00:21:40.440 Okay, so how do you think we're doing when it comes to reacting to these things? There seems to be one thing after another. We've got this report. I mean, I don't know how many of you going into this maybe a year ago had being an associate member of the EU as part of the scorecard here, but this has happened over the last little while.
00:21:57.680 We haven't got a trade deal with Donald Trump at this point in the United States of America, our biggest trading partner.
00:22:03.440 Do you think these things are a benefit to us and are we reacting to these correctly?
00:22:07.600 I know that many of you, as soon as that report from Jack Mintz was released, you were online with your information, which I think is very important.
00:22:15.360 But how are these things playing into the vote on October 19th?
00:22:19.380 There was a lot of elbows up people out there who are perfectly happy for us to be part of the EU and see this as a bonus because we're getting at Donald Trump.
00:22:27.520 Just some thoughts on that. Anybody who wants to take that right off the top?
00:22:31.220 Well, John, if you look back at some of our coverage before Mark Carney was actually Prime Minister and when he kind of started sniffing around the leadership of the Liberal Party, that's exactly what we said was going to happen.
00:22:41.080 He's here to move Canada towards the EU, away from the U.S., because the ultimate goal is to get International Monetary Fund loans onto Canada's books and do what they did with Greece,
00:22:52.120 which is to take over policy for a period of time and control resources in the population.
00:22:57.900 But I also want to say one thing that I want to caution people about is to be too distracted from the goal.
00:23:03.300 The goal is to get people to get there, so get out the vote.
00:23:06.900 It should be the next part of our campaign.
00:23:09.240 We want people to show up.
00:23:10.960 One of the things I've been fighting against, and I saw Corey did as well,
00:23:14.080 is the misconception or concern around advanced polling and advanced voting and special ballots.
00:23:19.400 These are all democratic tools that are available to everybody.
00:23:23.060 And as we saw with the by-election in Calgary-Shaw, the NDP took full advantage of the ability to do that.
00:23:29.120 I think everybody should be doing that.
00:23:30.620 It shouldn't be the conservatives that only show up on the day of.
00:23:33.740 I think everybody should do what they need to do to get their vote in.
00:23:36.780 So if that's a special ballot or advanced polling, do so, because every vote is going to count on this one.
00:23:43.280 Maybe, Bruce, you could just let me know, how do you feel we're doing when it comes to reacting to the things that are going on?
00:23:49.560 Or should we just continue to focus, keep our eyes on the prize here?
00:23:53.480 Well, I don't know how easy this message would be, but I mean, you could start.
00:23:58.340 I'm a bit tongue-in-cheek here, but you could start to advertise this as a two-for-one special.
00:24:05.980 You could vote for getting rid of Canada and getting out of the EU all at once.
00:24:11.320 because that's what you're going to have to do.
00:24:13.720 I mean, the timing is hilarious, really,
00:24:17.620 because we're now faced with the prospect
00:24:21.520 of having to do our own Brexit as well.
00:24:24.060 So it's just a bit of comedy, actually.
00:24:28.280 The idea that Alberta would have the first shot
00:24:32.260 at indicating that maybe not only does it not want to be in Canada,
00:24:35.820 but it does not want to be an associate member of the EU is just great.
00:24:39.860 Yeah, actually, I tweeted something a little while ago, and it actually rhymes nicely. Opt out of Carney's EU vote for option two. Maybe that's something like that online. Anybody else want to comment on this?
00:24:54.140 I got asked yesterday about the tariff wars. I'm starting to call them forever wars,
00:25:01.160 because that's what it feels like. And is this a good time for us to be having this conversation
00:25:05.760 in the midst of this back and forth between Carney and Trump? And I said, this is the perfect
00:25:11.180 time to be having this conversation, because if we were not attached to Ottawa, we wouldn't be
00:25:16.120 caught up in that conversation between Carney and Trump. It would be our own leaders here right at
00:25:21.900 home that are making those those deals and maybe there wouldn't be any tariffs at all because we
00:25:27.720 are actually able to as tanya says go as adults to the table and sit down and say okay well what's
00:25:33.180 going to benefit both of us mexico seems to be doing just fine with making that happen so we
00:25:38.520 could get out from under that completely and i don't know why the elbows up crowd can't figure
00:25:43.400 that out but to me it's a bonus it's a perfect thing to do i did an interview with some folks
00:25:48.840 a few weeks ago. I was surprised. It was a 20, 25 minute interview. Seniors for Independence. Now
00:25:54.840 they're not a third party advertiser, but there are some people very concerned. They have gray
00:25:59.400 hair, like I'm getting gray hair now. And they were boomers and they're concerned that the
00:26:03.600 message isn't getting to those people. They basically said they just don't see the alternate
00:26:08.380 media. They're not seeing anything but the CBC. They're only getting that message. So that's why
00:26:13.220 they're not, they're not listening. Is there any way to get through to some of those people
00:26:17.000 who would be willing to vote for option two on October 19th. Does anybody have any suggestion
00:26:23.480 how to do that? Are you talking about seniors in particular? Well, yes. Yeah. I mean, there's,
00:26:30.060 there's such a large percentage of them. I mean, they did the country in last year, 0.97
00:26:33.620 if it wasn't for the seniors, I think it's more than 60% of seniors right now would vote for the
00:26:37.720 liberals again. And we're talking about another possible election coming up and it would be a
00:26:42.000 massive majority for the Liberals, based a lot on the Boomers, who have that patriotism thing 0.57
00:26:47.180 in their heart. And I knew, I asked this question 18 months ago, how do we get around the patriotism
00:26:53.180 thing? A lot of those people and the seniors are hanging on to the Canada that used to be. How do
00:26:57.560 we get the message to them? There are some of them out there who might be willing to vote for option
00:27:01.820 two. Are they a lost cause? And I guess there's a lot in that to unpack, but if anybody wants to
00:27:07.380 take that one on i'll take it i don't and this is what i've seen in my meetings in the last couple
00:27:12.260 of weeks is of course we always have seniors coming out and like i said before we're getting
00:27:15.920 more and more that aren't decided yet or who are even on the forever canada side and really when
00:27:22.020 we're looking at the propaganda that's being thrown at us our only and probably our best um
00:27:28.080 recourse is facts is is getting the truth out there and i'm really appreciative of what the
00:27:35.020 Alberta Transition Council has done with their report. I printed it off. I take it to me with
00:27:39.680 my meetings. And when the inevitable questions come up and the fear mongering, well, I heard this,
00:27:45.340 I heard that it's like, this is the report, go home, download it, take a look at it on your
00:27:52.080 computer. This is how you get it. The information is there. And then I'm able to share, you know,
00:27:57.940 specific facts from the report um to their their specific questions um i've done the same thing with
00:28:05.940 with other reports that have come out where i actually print them off and i have them right
00:28:09.620 there and it's like if you're willing to take the time you can go home and do a little bit of reading
00:28:14.580 and educate yourself and figure it out you know so that you're very confident in whatever way you
00:28:20.020 decide to go on this it's got to be it's got to be facts and and not the drama not the fear mongering
00:28:27.460 that we just get from the other side all the time i think people are that that's exhausting and i
00:28:32.260 think people are looking for something a little more stable than what the other side is offering
00:28:36.660 yeah and tandy did you want i'm sorry go ahead go ahead yeah i was just going to say we were at an
00:28:40.740 event to meet the authors event in sylvan lake the other day and this question came up and my
00:28:45.940 response was don't refer to them as boomers remind them that they're grandparents and great
00:28:50.660 grandparents and that's the other generation that we're actually really fighting for there's a lot
00:28:55.140 of people who are already done they got their nest egg they're fine they're going to be comfortable
00:28:58.980 for the rest of their days so they don't actually feel the pain they don't feel that you know bread's
00:29:03.300 doubling in price it just doesn't affect them but if you have them think about their actual
00:29:09.060 next generations that they participated in that's when you can maybe change the conversation from
00:29:14.420 well we're not really fighting for what's left for your nest egg we're trying to make sure that
00:29:19.060 your grandchildren and great-grandchildren have a nest egg because at this stage they currently
00:29:23.860 don't and also the conversations coming from the bottom up so it's going to be their family members
00:29:28.420 who are coming to them so they're not going to see it on mainstream media but when they're
00:29:31.860 visiting with their family this is when those conversations can continue to happen and a lot
00:29:36.500 of people that come to our events would be classified in that category and they're very
00:29:40.500 very concerned about the other generations they're not really so much concerned about themselves at
00:29:44.420 this stage yeah and there is definitely there's seniors that don't have that large nest egg
00:29:51.300 that are living off of what the government has provided with their cpp and their oas
00:29:56.740 and then there's the argument for well that could be substantially larger if alberta was not over
00:30:02.340 paying to ottawa every single year to the tune of 25 billion dollars per year we could take
00:30:07.780 better care of our own people and then also like what you said jason i echo that exactly there is
00:30:13.940 a large group of people that have you know built a level of like wealth and comfort that will take
00:30:20.580 them through the end of their days but this is not about us or that generation it's about the
00:30:26.260 future of albertans and it's about our children and that's what i worry about most i have two
00:30:30.500 kids that are in university and i look at the costs of going to university and what debt they
00:30:35.780 will come out of that university education with and then also the fact that the average age of
00:30:42.260 buying a house in canada for the first time now is 40 years old or above that's a long time to be
00:30:49.140 waiting to be able to purchase your first home whereas 20 years ago that was not the case it was
00:30:54.660 about 20 years that you could buy your first home so we've had a major shift in that and the
00:30:59.860 affordability and the groceries and everything we see the trend of where canada is going and
00:31:05.300 lots of times i will say that the certainty of where canada is headed is far scarier than any
00:31:10.740 uncertainty of trying to form a new nation and building something better anyone else
00:31:17.300 yeah john i think the point that you made is very important as well though that a lot of a lot of
00:31:23.540 older people are remembering a country that they have in their heads and think that they're being
00:31:31.540 loyal to that country which doesn't does not exist anymore and for example the fact the fact
00:31:39.540 that the at the polling at the moment indicates that the liberals would be heading to a massive
00:31:44.980 majority if the vote was held today for for older people in alberta that that means that that this
00:31:54.260 is not their country this this is a country that has changed and and if you can only try to shake
00:32:02.660 their belief that they're living in the place they've always known then they might be able
00:32:08.660 to look outside themselves and see what kind of effects it's having on their kids and grandkids
00:32:13.460 i'm wondering um i get up in the morning thinking about this how about you i would assume not if you
00:32:21.020 get up in the morning thinking about the albert independence movement i mean maybe bruce you don't
00:32:25.020 so much being from ontario but uh you know cory the funny thing is i kind of do yeah yeah well
00:32:30.860 there you go but here's the here's the thing i mean we're thinking about this all the time
00:32:35.700 and um and i know there's a lot of people out there who aren't going to be thinking about this
00:32:40.420 until probably the last week, if they do, they might even wait till the last couple of days to
00:32:45.900 even think about this. So, you know, we talked about Labor Day being sort of a demarcation point
00:32:53.080 between people paying attention and not paying attention. You know, everybody was on summer
00:32:57.140 vacation and they got soccer games and ball games to go to, and we got to figure out if they can
00:33:01.460 afford beef to put on their barbecue. But then we get to Labor Day and we've seen more of a ramp up
00:33:07.120 from the propaganda from the other side. But I think this thing is going to be one in the last
00:33:11.460 week. If you look back on the 95 referendum in Quebec, the yes side was leading that thing until
00:33:17.680 the last week and they brought it out of the fire in the last week. So how much focus do we need to
00:33:23.760 do together? We've got all these groups doing different things, which I think is great because
00:33:27.620 everybody's been covering the province on their own. But how much focus do we need to put in on
00:33:32.660 that last week and who do we really need to focus on? Is it seniors? Is it young people who don't
00:33:38.480 pay attention to politics? Hardly at all. Anybody? I think it's the young people we've really got to
00:33:44.380 watch. It's been a very interesting demographic actually to see how they've been moving more
00:33:48.760 towards a conservative sort of stance and things in general and on this independence thing. But I
00:33:53.620 know from past campaigns, I know even from being as politically committed as I was when I was young,
00:33:59.300 if there was a big bar event happening or a town hall meeting, chances are I'd go to the bar one
00:34:04.620 because I was chasing things other than votes at that time. And young people are really essential
00:34:10.960 for the GOTV. We're winning the support of them, I believe, but they can be easily distracted. It
00:34:17.960 can be difficult to get them to the polls. So with efforts of really driving home the importance of
00:34:23.020 getting to those advanced polls or getting to the polls and getting that vote out of them,
00:34:27.140 And that's the thing with the seniors, why they sort of punch above their weight, too, because traditionally voter turnout for senior citizens is very, very high.
00:34:34.640 Younger people, it tends to be on the low side.
00:34:37.440 But that support is there if we can somehow manage a campaign to really remind them and encourage them that this is very important.
00:34:45.320 Don't just talk about it.
00:34:46.700 Get out and cast your ballot.
00:34:48.640 Anybody else?
00:34:49.320 one of the things that I've come to learn talking with more and more young people and I don't know
00:34:55.540 how I didn't know this because I have young people in my family but there is this this
00:35:01.560 disconnect in their thinking that if they don't think that you're going to agree with them at the
00:35:07.280 or that they're not going to agree with you on a certain particular subject then you just don't
00:35:11.680 talk about it you just avoid all conflict all together and somewhere along the line that's what
00:35:18.520 these this next generation has been taught and and if you don't agree with someone on something
00:35:24.500 you kind of can't be friends so it's just best not to talk about it so you don't lose that friendship
00:35:29.160 and I was I was astounded to learn this I was like are you kidding me like I don't even know
00:35:35.620 how many bush parties we were at and you knew you didn't agree with the person over there but it
00:35:39.980 didn't matter you went over and and you chatted with them anyways um and so I think there's a
00:35:46.040 little bit of that it's almost like okay guys this is your future that we're doing this for
00:35:50.540 and we as the ones who raised you and somehow missed this want you to want you to talk about
00:35:57.580 this we want you to feel like you have permission to have a voice in this conversation you've got
00:36:02.400 a dog in this fight it's called your future and if you don't agree with other people that's okay
00:36:07.980 that's how we get the information and so I'm not I don't know really how to bridge that gap but
00:36:13.080 it's something that I have come to learn. It's interesting you say that, Kathy. I was talking
00:36:17.480 to a young lady the other day. I'm going to be setting up an interview with her. It's got a
00:36:21.440 website called youngalberta.com. Her name is Sanica. And she wants to have these discussions 0.58
00:36:28.840 with people. She said anxiety when it comes to young people. They have anxiety when it comes to
00:36:35.800 this type of thing. They don't like to discuss it. And so we need to get through that anxiety,
00:36:42.540 I think, and maybe stress the benefits of Alberta independence. You don't need to be anxious about
00:36:48.000 this. You need to be optimistic and positive about it. Anybody? Well, but I think this is
00:36:53.700 the moment where Tanya's framing is very important. For young people, if they're anxious, if they're
00:37:00.140 unhappy with the way things are, this is a referendum on the status quo. If you like the
00:37:05.940 status quo, then everything's peachy. But if you are uncomfortable with the way your future looks,
00:37:12.540 this is your chance this is your one chance to express the fact that the status quo for you is
00:37:20.340 not working if you miss this moment it's over anybody yeah i also want to remind people that
00:37:30.600 to get out the vote is going to be really important but also be prepared to vote so go and make sure
00:37:35.020 you're registered and you're ready to go because what you don't want is you actually go there to
00:37:39.340 vote and you find out you don't have the right paperwork you can't prove your residency especially
00:37:43.120 for young people who don't have homes and maybe staying at home with their parents and there's
00:37:48.080 no paperwork that actually shows where they live this is the time to now get that out of the way
00:37:52.760 we were at an event where that was the one concern that a woman had for her soon to be 19 year old
00:37:59.160 was do they have enough proof to go ahead and vote and the answer to that is get started now
00:38:05.180 Go to Elections Alberta website and get that process started. See if you're on a voter registry. If you're not, get yourself on there. And don't wait for October 19th to find out you don't have a rental agreement or you can't prove where you live and therefore you can't vote. Get that out of the way before October 19th.
00:38:20.560 I'm wondering with the groups that we've got here today, Get Out the Vote, GOTV, that's been
00:38:25.860 mentioned. Corey mentioned it. You're kind of reading my mind there, Jason. And you were talking
00:38:30.440 about people registering. I have that down as a point I wanted to bring up here. But what are we
00:38:35.440 doing to do that? It's one thing to tell people they need to vote for option two. Really successful
00:38:41.520 campaigns actually have ways of getting people to the polls. Are we doing that? Is anybody focusing
00:38:46.520 in on that right now maybe I can ask you Tanya about that yeah actually our TPA is really focused
00:38:53.920 on that and we were just kind of waiting to make sure that we had all the legalities
00:38:57.320 in place before we could release it and that will be very soon but we have a very sophisticated get
00:39:03.240 out to vote campaign and app that we'll be able to use to build on the kind of grassroots movement
00:39:10.640 that we have going with this and then reaching out and compounding that by people knowing people
00:39:15.360 and being accountable to getting other people out to vote and then making sure that we get those
00:39:20.700 people out to the polls. So that will be released very soon. Yeah, I'll be driving my mother-in-law
00:39:26.660 to the poll. She has no way of getting there. People need to do that as well. If you have 1.00
00:39:29.820 somebody who can't get out and maybe we should have some kind of a database where people can
00:39:34.060 log in and say, listen, I'm stuck. I'm down in Cardston. I haven't got a car. Maybe I can't leave
00:39:39.960 my house. Can somebody help me vote? And we can have some of our people do that as well. I don't
00:39:44.020 know that that's the kind of thing we're thinking about doing but i'm willing to get out on uh on
00:39:48.580 the 19th and fill up my car if i have to and take them to their polling station uh i think that
00:39:53.540 would be really helpful as well anybody yeah well also sorry go ahead go jason there's one more
00:40:00.380 thing that's really important right now is elections alberta is looking for people to work
00:40:04.200 the election and uh there's actually a big deficiency in the number of people they need
00:40:09.000 especially in rural areas so if you're available to go ahead and work that whether you're going
00:40:13.600 be watching the ballot boxes, helping people get to it, making sure it's been run smoothly.
00:40:18.140 They need a lot of people to do that. You will do your advance voting, so your vote gets in there
00:40:23.140 too. But the day of the election, they're still looking for thousands of people to make sure that
00:40:27.400 this goes smoothly. And what better way to get involved? You also get paid, but you also be
00:40:32.500 there to make sure it goes smoothly. So I really encourage people in rural areas to go to Elections
00:40:36.460 Alberta. Go ahead and sign up. They're doing training now. They're getting this going now.
00:40:40.660 and I know several people who have taken that step but they need more so please go ahead and
00:40:45.000 check that out if you want to make a couple bucks and make sure this is a smooth uh referendum for
00:40:49.380 everybody get involved and join Elections Alberta to uh to make sure that happens on October 19th.
00:40:55.600 Tanya you were going to say something? Yeah I think it can just it can be a very simple get
00:41:00.420 out to vote strategy because we all know a few people in our social circles that are hesitant
00:41:05.620 to vote or have never voted in the past or just like very politically apathetic and i've been
00:41:11.060 talking to my girlfriend specifically about that and i know that they're going to go out to vote
00:41:14.420 and i'm going to be responsible for making sure that they either go to advance polls or they
00:41:18.900 request their special ballot or on like on referendum day that they go out there and do
00:41:24.100 that and to encourage them to do that also it's like really important to drum up the excitement
00:41:29.140 about this this is the biggest question that albertans have ever been asked in the history
00:41:34.900 of Alberta why would you not want to participate in this and if you don't know which way to vote
00:41:40.740 in it then you have this opportunity this next four and a half weeks or so to get informed talk
00:41:46.500 to your social circles look for the information out there form your opinions and realize that
00:41:51.540 this is a huge opportunity for Alberta one that thousands and thousands of volunteers have spent
00:41:57.060 decades and decades of effort Corey Morgan I know you're one of them you've been on this bandwagon
00:42:02.500 for a long time, pushing for this. There have been people that have put in so much of their lives
00:42:07.540 to get us to this point where we just get to answer a question. And all you have to do
00:42:12.580 is check a box on a ballot. And that check carries a lot of weight. So that's pretty exciting,
00:42:19.640 I think, to be a part of. It is, Corey. I was going to bring that up. I mean, you've been
00:42:22.880 politically involved for a long time in this province. It certainly is an interesting place
00:42:26.540 for politics, I have to say. It was nothing quite like this in Ontario. And I put this flag on my
00:42:31.820 wall back here, I can tell you kind of what the Ontario flag looks like, but not a lot of people
00:42:36.520 have an Ontario flag on their wall, but it's, it's loved here. What do you think we need to do from
00:42:42.020 a standpoint of getting people out? Tanya talks about having an app coming up. I'm glad you looked
00:42:47.240 into it from a legal standpoint, Tanya, because we don't want anything like we had back in the
00:42:52.300 spring happening again. That's really good. But what do you think we need to do? And do you think
00:42:56.240 we can get enough people out there and drive people to the polls?
00:42:58.980 there's a flag on them look at tanya's got a flag on the combine oh there you go
00:43:05.660 there you go cory what do you think yeah well it's difficult and we're in uncharted waters
00:43:14.200 in other elections we're used to it and we're trained for having political parties that have
00:43:18.320 an organizational machine you've broken the province into 87 constituencies where you can
00:43:23.540 assign volunteers, have a large voter identification campaign so that you know who to get out when the
00:43:30.100 time comes. I'm afraid we don't have any of that. We just don't have that kind of mechanism on the
00:43:36.980 ground. So some of it comes to, I think, though, assuming that we are going to get a pretty large
00:43:41.940 turnout. The Quebec referendum had 93% of voters come out. That was astounding with that large
00:43:49.080 amount i think this will be lower but i wouldn't be surprised if we're well into the 80 percent so
00:43:53.800 it it'll still focus i mean getting out the votes very critical for those who we can help and what
00:43:58.860 limited ways we can do it to get them out there whether it's your own social circles as you said
00:44:02.780 with a mother-in-law or something like that uh the other part though is just making sure we get
00:44:07.280 the messaging so those who do vote vote how we want to and that's where bruce was was speaking
00:44:12.020 on how very important it is actually to make sure this isn't a fully binary stay or leave sort of
00:44:18.180 question going on because it isn't. It's a non-binding thing that's moving forward. And
00:44:23.080 we should present it as, this is your time to say you weren't satisfied with the status quo.
00:44:27.500 I want to go around the horn here because people who are watching right now,
00:44:30.880 they may not be involved. They may have volunteered to help you, maybe move signs
00:44:36.520 across the province. It's quite remarkable how people have been doing that. But people are out
00:44:40.860 there right now thinking they want to vote. Others think maybe they can help in a way. So maybe I can
00:44:45.400 go around the horn. We've got a number of third-party advertisers here. And then it could
00:44:49.000 come to Bruce at the end and maybe get your thoughts on what you think maybe Albertans can do
00:44:53.360 to help out in the province for October the 19th. So maybe I'll start with Angela. Alberta Women for
00:44:59.040 Independence, you've been out there. I know I was out to one of your events not long ago. You've been
00:45:02.940 focusing a lot on the other nine questions. I think that's important because those questions
00:45:06.940 are so long. You could have people standing in line for hours as people try to run through these
00:45:11.560 nine questions because you got to think them through. And if everybody knows how to vote on
00:45:16.700 those before they walk in there, but what do you need to help you get your message out as Alberta 0.87
00:45:22.280 Women for Independence? And then we'll go to the rest of you. Well, our calendar is filling up, 1.00
00:45:27.860 so that's great. People are still hosting us and wanting to hold meetings. And so if folks are
00:45:33.300 interested in having us come to their community and put on a meeting either in their home or at
00:45:37.640 a town hall or whatever please reach out to us um they can do that through our website or or however
00:45:44.280 um but talking about those nine questions so something that kind of took kathy and i a little
00:45:49.640 bit by surprise was the fact that we just simply printed off all 10 questions it's a two-sided
00:45:55.560 a page and we kind of have them divided and we just printed that off and we thought well we'll
00:45:59.880 just hand that out to people at the meetings we have given out thousands upon thousands of those
00:46:06.040 when people are coming to the meetings they are grabbing chunks of them and saying
00:46:09.720 i'm giving these to my neighbors i'm giving these to my friends so that they're not the ones standing
00:46:14.520 in line or standing behind that that voting booth holding up the line um and so that is something
00:46:20.840 very easy you can go to our website we have the pdf right there you can print that off
00:46:24.760 it is an easy conversation starter because it's non-partisan it's simply these are the 10 questions
00:46:30.680 that you're going to be asked to vote on get familiar with them and uh it's been a wonderful
00:46:36.000 tool so please if people want to help us out that way have us have us to your home or what have you
00:46:41.620 but you can also go online print off that pdf and give that out to your friends jason you've had a
00:46:47.480 lot of people volunteering helping you out what do you need them to do and how can they help you
00:46:51.520 get the message out one of the things we need is for people to come out to the events and
00:46:57.060 tonight in Edmonton at Four Point Sheridan, Edmonton South at 6.30. We're going to be
00:47:02.100 having a debate with Stokoe Day and Bruce Pardee. This is for everybody. Whether you're decided
00:47:06.820 one way or another or you're undecided, this is the time to come out. So whether you've been to
00:47:11.280 one of our events or not, come and bring a friend or two. And then tomorrow night, which is Friday
00:47:15.880 in Calgary, it's going to be the Four Point Sheridan at the Calgary Airport at 6.30. The
00:47:21.140 doors will open. So this is a time where you get to hear both sides, two gentlemen who are going to
00:47:25.700 have a nice civil conversation and bring you the facts as they see it.
00:47:30.280 And quite frankly, Sockwell and Bruce agrees on a lot of things,
00:47:33.260 just not necessarily the solution to the final question.
00:47:36.520 So if you're in a volunteer or you've been participating in our events before,
00:47:40.040 grab a couple of friends and come on out to one of these two events.
00:47:42.440 I think it will be worth your time.
00:47:44.120 And please bring somebody who's not decided or even decided on the other side,
00:47:48.100 because this is an open conversation for everybody.
00:47:51.200 Corey, you were out there early.
00:47:53.060 You were one of the first TPAs with those signs, and they're everywhere.
00:47:57.560 Well done.
00:47:58.820 You've had so many people calling me, how do I get in touch with Corey so I can get some signs to take them up to Fort Vermillion?
00:48:05.300 I mean, honestly, they've gone all the way up to the north.
00:48:07.880 The signs have traveled.
00:48:09.260 I mean, everybody's signs have gone all the way across the provinces.
00:48:11.940 People have been collecting them and delivering them.
00:48:13.620 What do you need going into this over the last month, and how can we get the message out?
00:48:18.780 yeah well from where i'm at i mean specializing in signs just getting help i guess to spread them
00:48:24.760 around i some people have found my organization is a bit lacking i've been very good at raising
00:48:28.160 the funds for and getting the signs made but getting them to every lawn has been challenging
00:48:32.300 though some volunteers have been doing a magnificent job the task is going to get a little
00:48:36.340 easier as we get closer to voting day we're not asking people to host a sign for three months like
00:48:40.060 we used to be we're just asking them to have it for four weeks and i think there's a chance to
00:48:44.200 have that push. And the signs, again, they don't change votes, but they open conversations. And
00:48:48.860 the more we could see those on public households, like people's households, saying to their
00:48:53.200 neighbors, hey, I support this. I think it'll have an impact in having those conversations
00:48:57.560 and bringing them out. And there's something to keep in mind here. Isn't there some type of law
00:49:02.840 after the vote on the 19th, you have to have them off certain property if you've got those big signs
00:49:08.720 within a couple of days? Is that true? You're going to need help because you want to keep those
00:49:12.380 signs because we're going to have another vote in the spring, right? So that's something people
00:49:15.800 should be thinking about as well, right? That's a very good point. On the public space signs,
00:49:20.520 it's municipality by municipality. It's usually 48 hours and you could end up fined or the signs
00:49:26.680 could be picked up by the local authorities and they'll throw them in the trash or whatnot. So
00:49:31.320 I'm glad you brought that up. Just to remind volunteers and people, just to help out the day
00:49:36.460 after. Sometimes everybody's tired and you forget that there's still things to be done after the
00:49:41.260 last day of the voting and and if they could step up and really clean those signs up fast it would
00:49:45.380 be really be appreciated. Let Alberta decide Tanya what are you up to what do you need help with 0.91
00:49:50.300 going into the last month here? Well we've got a lot of events coming up in the next while
00:49:55.840 participating with anything that basically we're invited to and Keith is a little bit more available
00:50:00.620 now that the Alberta Transition Council document is out there although he's working on the
00:50:06.180 financial plan as well to be released soon. But we're at a lot of events. Our sign campaign is
00:50:12.820 still going strong. And like Corey said, there's that 48 hour period after the campaign ends to
00:50:19.320 remove those signs. So our sign teams are fantastic. That's a group of volunteers that
00:50:24.500 works largely with all the TPAs and just wants to get a bunch of blue out there regardless of
00:50:29.200 which TPA is advertised on it. But we do have an app that will track that and make sure that they
00:50:34.700 get taken down and we're going to actually save all of our signs because we fully anticipate that
00:50:40.700 we're going to need them for the next referendum because we'll be successful in this one and need
00:50:45.180 to keep those and then we can just alter them with stickers or vinyl on top of them
00:50:50.380 and make sure that we're reusing the resources that we've already had invested for us so we're
00:50:56.140 going to keep doing that and yeah i think we're just we're very focused on the the question 10
00:51:02.700 the option one versus option two and making sure that albertans realize that option one is the
00:51:08.380 status quo vote for that if you just want more of the same and option two is what empowers our
00:51:14.520 province of alberta with all the negotiating strength that it has never had to be able to
00:51:18.620 leverage against ottawa in negotiations for the future of our province okay just before i get to
00:51:23.180 bruce okay so we've got ab women's independence network.com for the alberta women for independence
00:51:29.320 CoryMorgan.com, Pathway to Independence, The Levine Show for Jason Levine, and we've got
00:51:34.840 LetAlbertaDecide.com. Is that all of them? I think I got them all, if I remember correctly.
00:51:39.960 Bruce, as somebody who's looking in from Ontario, but spending enough time here, you've been here
00:51:46.580 for almost a week, I think, with Jason, you're going to be here for several more days moving
00:51:51.280 forward. What do you think people have to do here? I'm asking you as the professor. Professor,
00:51:57.300 party. What do you think we should be doing? What are your thoughts on that?
00:52:02.140 Oh, I think you should be trying to communicate to people what an opportunity this is. So there
00:52:08.180 are lots of people across this country who are not happy with what Canada has become.
00:52:15.520 And those people who have that view outside Alberta are envious, jealous of the opportunity
00:52:25.040 that Alberta actually has right now
00:52:28.100 to express a view on this
00:52:30.680 and to put something into place.
00:52:32.620 There is nothing happening anywhere else.
00:52:36.600 It's Alberta or nowhere.
00:52:38.280 And I just hope Albertans, you know, appreciate,
00:52:41.520 even though, you know, the referendum's not exactly
00:52:43.960 what I would have liked to see,
00:52:45.480 the question's not what I would have wanted,
00:52:47.660 you know, the confusion of the other nine questions,
00:52:50.580 all that kind of stuff.
00:52:51.560 All that aside, Albertans have an opportunity in this moment that is not going to come back for quite a while, if ever, but it's an opportunity that has no prospect of happening anywhere else in the country.
00:53:06.520 So, for goodness sakes, you've got to go out and vote.
00:53:11.220 You've got to go out and vote, because if you miss this moment, this is not just like an election.
00:53:16.280 This is a once-in-a-lifetime kind of opportunity.
00:53:19.320 and if people don't get that then they're gonna they're gonna miss it okay i want to go around
00:53:24.000 the horn here because we've been about an hour now and i want to let you guys get back to
00:53:27.460 well all of your signed deliveries and everything that you've been doing because i admire all of you
00:53:32.700 so much i have to say people say john thanks for all you do oh for goodness sakes look at the people
00:53:37.120 on the screen here look what they're doing they're remarkable and i just want to say to this to the
00:53:41.200 people who are watching this and say i wish you'd asked me to be on there i could have had 50 people
00:53:45.320 on here with me. And I want to do this again. Maybe we'll do this once a week and we'll get
00:53:49.660 different people on over the next three or four weeks to talk about moving forward. And I could
00:53:54.060 have had so many people on here. Maybe you can start with Kathy, just final words on what you'd
00:53:58.640 like to see happen over the next little bit. What I'd like to see happen over the next little bit
00:54:03.220 is for Albertans to come together. This is our future that we're deciding upon. So rather than
00:54:08.460 squabbling online or squabbling at the lineup at the grocery store, let's come together. Let's talk
00:54:13.940 this out let's reason together and and really sort this out amongst ourselves keeping the
00:54:19.420 politicians out of it the reason that this movement has made it as far as it has is because
00:54:23.860 we left the politicians out of it the status quo benefits them not us so let's just keep this
00:54:29.720 conversation going let's keep talking let's keep it open let's keep it civil and make sure that we
00:54:35.160 all get a chance to be heard on october 19th cory we'll go to you next i'll just be brief i want to
00:54:42.440 thank you for pulling us together. It's also heartening. We're getting a bit tired. We've
00:54:46.660 been at it a long time. I think some people are getting fatigued with the issue and some people
00:54:50.080 are getting tired with the campaign work, but we're, you know, we're inspired and we're hammering
00:54:54.700 at it. And just that reminder, there's just so many different great disparate groups pushing in
00:54:58.880 the same direction on this. It's just good to see us all together like this and remind us that,
00:55:03.620 you know, it's worth it. Just five weeks to go. This is the big push. Let's just hit it with all
00:55:07.540 we've got until then Jason make sure that you feel comfortable and confident by the time you
00:55:12.780 get to that vote do not vote just one question like question 10 make sure you're ready for all
00:55:18.120 the questions because it's important no matter what happens on October 19th Alberta's future is
00:55:23.340 at the your fingertips right here and do encourage people to come whether they've never voted before
00:55:29.260 or they're avid voters everybody should be there and quite frankly there's a 40 group of registered
00:55:34.320 voters that didn't vote in the last provincial election if they came out they can make the
00:55:38.100 difference and if they're not voting because they don't trust that their vote matters this is the
00:55:42.900 time where your vote does matter so if you want to see the status quo continue don't show up but
00:55:48.000 if you want to see a change make sure you show up and mark down that ballot go to you tanya next
00:55:52.580 well i think it's actually a unifying principle to pursue sovereignty and prosperity for the future
00:56:03.620 of Alberta. That's things that everybody wants. And that brings into focus what we're actually
00:56:09.400 being asked is that this is not an independence question yet. We're having a referendum on
00:56:14.480 a referendum, which was not the choice of any of us probably in this group, but this
00:56:18.420 is where we are and this is where we're at. So the question before us is, do you want
00:56:23.160 to stay with the status quo and where Canada is headed and knowing where it's headed? Or
00:56:28.740 Or do you want the opportunity to maybe take a little bit of courage and pursue something
00:56:33.820 different and at least empower our provincial government with the negotiating strength to
00:56:38.600 go to Ottawa and have a seat at the table and have that conversation with some leverage.
00:56:44.580 That's the thing that we've been missing in Alberta is we've never had leverage before.
00:56:48.080 And a vote for option two gives us that leverage.
00:56:51.420 And at that point, Ottawa will come to the table with an offer to try to entice Albertans
00:56:56.960 to stay because we'll be one step closer to that independence vote and if ottawa doesn't come with
00:57:02.880 a great offer as i suspect that they won't then albertans will get to decide do we want to accept
00:57:09.040 that or should we take the next step and maybe pursue independence and standing our own two feet
00:57:14.000 angela i love the word courage that tanya just used and that's what we need as albertans
00:57:19.920 individually we all need to gather our courage put the sign on the lawn hang the flag wear the
00:57:26.560 t-shirt reach out to your friends your neighbors in love and invite them to become a part of this
00:57:34.320 conversation to get excited about the possibilities that are ahead of us and let's do this together i
00:57:41.280 am just so excited and that's what we need is to gather our courage and to do this together
00:57:46.880 okay what i want to do uh right now is just mention that there are a lot of other third
00:57:50.640 party advertisers out there that need your support as well and i do want to ask you the question i
00:57:55.440 I put about $6 signs on my screen over here.
00:57:58.620 Maybe you can just give me an affirmative or whatever,
00:58:00.860 but you still need money in the last four weeks.
00:58:03.360 You need people to donate to you, correct?
00:58:06.460 Correct.
00:58:07.500 Yeah.
00:58:08.620 It was a rhetorical question.
00:58:10.860 I knew what you were going to say.
00:58:12.080 So if you can go to the websites,
00:58:13.360 I'll put a list of them at the end of this
00:58:15.040 so people can go to each one
00:58:16.540 and you can find others as well
00:58:18.760 that need some assistance as well
00:58:20.660 that are doing good work as well.
00:58:22.160 And perhaps we'll get them
00:58:23.240 on another one of these Zoom calls altogether leading up to October the 19th.
00:58:29.020 I hope this was helpful. I enjoyed this very much.
00:58:32.180 Again, I admire all of you for what you're doing.
00:58:33.980 Bruce, thank you so much for being part of this as well.
00:58:36.140 Thanks for coming out here and supporting us Albertans who are looking for our independence.
00:58:39.700 Thank you very much for being here.
00:58:41.320 And if you want to find out what's going on with these groups,
00:58:43.820 they list on their websites where you can get signs and events and activities that are happening.
00:58:48.960 And again, you can look for that.
00:58:49.920 I'll put all the different websites at the end of this so you can check them out.
00:58:53.640 Thank you to everybody for doing this.
00:58:55.620 I really appreciate it.
00:58:57.580 Thank you, John.
00:58:58.320 Thank you, John.
00:58:58.660 Thank you so much.
00:59:00.180 Thank you very much, everybody.
00:59:01.800 Don't forget, vote option two on October the 19th.
00:59:04.460 Get out there and help these groups.
00:59:05.760 They really need your help.
00:59:07.300 Volunteer.
00:59:08.000 It's only a few more weeks to get our vote for the vote in the spring so we can actually
00:59:13.040 get our Alberta independence.
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