UNLEASH the BEAST of Western Independence - BC Independence on the RISE
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In this episode, I speak with Michael Henshaw about the independence movement that is growing in British Columbia, Canada. Michael is a former Prime Minister of Canada, a former Canadian Prime Minister, an ex-minister and a former head of the Canadian pro-Canadian separatist movement, and a long-time member of the pro-Canadian independence movement.
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hi it's john and welcome to the channel it is thursday february the 12th i am recording this
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on the 11th of february but it's going up at 4 30 in the morning thank you very much
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uh for tuning in and watching this video with the big blue mug of coffee of course and we have a
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guest today you know i was thinking about this prior to starting oh you got your own mug there
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michael's got his own mug well uh he's got a big blue mug it looks like as well but i was thinking
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about this prior to getting michael on with me to talk about the independence movement that is
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growing in british columbia is how can we frame this and that's like unleash the beast of western
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independence so maybe that's what we'll call this video but my guest today is michael henshaw
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who was one of the leaders of the independence movement in british columbia and michael welcome
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to the channel it's great to talk to you this is spreading right across the country michael it's
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good to have you here thanks john good afternoon so um i spoke not too long ago with brad williams
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from the saskatchewan prosperity project um he actually gave me your contact information so i
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could talk to you here today uh i know that uh brad and uh saskatchewan's about maybe two years
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behind alberta you're really just starting out with this and i think at around the same time you
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started talking about independence and it started creeping into the media there was somebody else in
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british columbia doing the same thing so you've you've got a few people at least talking about the
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independence movement in british columbia right now yeah that's correct john uh it's strictly it's
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been grassroots we've uh there was this sudden surge it's all over the province and i really appreciate
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what uh what citizens in alberta have been working on blazing the trail well yeah i'm sorry but you've
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been you've been you've been involved i think in politics in british columbia as well and and i did
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you have a belief in canada at one time and it's kind of slipped away from you absolutely you know i
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grew up you know that proud is uh you know a proud canadian yeah yeah i understand for lack of a better
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word but um yeah you know throughout throughout my years uh some things come to mind you know cheering
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the canadian team on at the olympics and hockey and you know all these great great um events that stand
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out you know even even going back to elementary school and proudly singing oh canada and you know
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but the past 10 years has been different it has you know it's interesting you say that we're in the
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olympics right now and i've i've thought a little bit about rooting for team canada uh as the olympics
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started i remember 72 watching the 72 summit series in class it was that patriotic at that point so
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that's a long long time ago um and of course we played the russians back then and we won uh in an
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eight game series but i remember that very much but what is it that's changed there now um i mean
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we certainly have our gripes here in alberta when it comes to our natural resources the amount of
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money that we give uh to the east uh saskatchewan has its grievances as well what are the things
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that stand out for you i think you might have some rather unique things uh that are concerns for you
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now i've uh the past 10 years i've seen a there's been a been a shift and this has been going on for
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probably 10 years for me uh i've seen it's almost like uh you know we have canada we had canada in
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our heart had passed um and we saw a shift from our federal leaders to more of a globalist view right
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we saw that we you know if you you can just just in light of that um i i'm thinking of henry kissinger's
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words years ago and he said um we control oil we control the nations we control food
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we control the individual and also more recently uh klaus schwab uh for the economic forum former
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executive chairman of the world economic forum that famous quote you alone nothing and be happy
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well he also boasted though of controlling uh half of trudeau's cabinet or b or his over half of
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trudeau's cabinet were uh was a youth world economic youth yeah i remember yeah so you know we in light
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of that and then we see that there's a shift to globalism you take trudeau's track record of giving
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over 10 billion per year of our hard-earned tax dollars and our taxes are high and taking those and
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giving them through to his pet projects throughout the globe yeah and then and we we see uh christia
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freeland and i i i believe there's a lot of criminality involved we see christia freeland over
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there uh right she's been shipped off to ukraine and i believe to run the laundromat yeah yeah well you
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know it's interesting i i think was just recently mitch sylvester at one of the the meetings they've had
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he said you know you ship money off to a country and you send over a billion dollars and how much
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actually gets into the country how much is written a check is written straight back into the country
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back to canada and you know maybe nine tenths of that money comes back to canada but we've uh who's
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getting that money is i wish people could see it because there is there's money laundering yeah and
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it's in our own backyard well i'm wondering how uh just today and i don't want to get too deep into
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the federal politics i do want to talk about british columbia but i just read an article that
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justin trudeau i know that he's got money because his dad left it to him but he's about a 4.3 million
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dollar mansion he's got terribly rich as a politician i just don't know how that happens but
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you know looking from alberta what we see happening out there uh certainly pipelines are very much
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connected with british columbia certainly to go through there but the real challenge i think you
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guys have right now that's that we're not dealing with here in alberta is land claims and you're dealing
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with and maybe we can put them together but you're dealing with a left-wing government there
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where here in alberta we tend to elect very right-wing governments more conservative so talk about the
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land claim issue uh you you gave me an amazing number the other day you said something like 110
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of the land 110 that was that was a few years back it's probably more now yeah of the provinces and
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land claims due to overlapping claims yeah so any way to get around that though because we are
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certainly here where i live i'm in treaty seven right um when it comes to treaties here and it's
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seeded land here all given up all seeded pretty much all of alberta is that way but i don't think
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british columbia is that way so you've got some real challenges there and this must really tick you off
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and people who are interested in independence there there's uh our there our real estate industry
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right now is is it's tanking do you work in real estate just frozen i yes i thought it's okay for
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20 20 plus years and property manager so yeah yeah it it it strikes close to home yeah but i'm seeing
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seeing that you know throughout the province that it's quite stagnant right now and i think a lot of
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people are hesitant to jump in yeah i wouldn't want to buy a house there right now there's no security
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i think the banks are are not interested in in lending i think in spec particularly those areas
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that are have open locket uh lawsuits more more recently there was the couch and decision but we
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have kamloops now the whole city of kamloops you know is under claim i'm just wondering where that's
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gonna go yeah is there a lot of support for this i mean there's you there's somebody else who's
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talking about this as well are you are you getting people together are you having meetings are you
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trying to connect with other people who are interested in this and what part of bc do you
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want to take do you want it all or just the section above vancouver and victoria that seem to vote for the
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left in the well i'm i'm in 100 mile which is south central and the last provincial election
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everything north went blue and we did and there's that but the concentrate population concentration
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the lower mainland seemed to dictate the yeah the outcome yeah i think a lot of people it's a that
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couch and this decision is affecting those people though and i i there there's a there is a different
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there is a shift right now i think the only option is independence to get rid of this and deal with
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this so let me ask you this um i've heard over the years since i've been interested in independence
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here in alberta you know i moved out here about 15 years ago from ontario it was around uh 2019 when
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i went to my first meeting and i'd always heard that there are sections of northern british columbia that
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would like to fragment away or break away from the south and we could become our own little
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province you get saskatchewan or country saskatchewan alberta and the northern part of british
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columbia is there a belief in that or are you looking for the whole thing here i i would be i'd be
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all for that john if if there was no other option but i'd like to see the whole province we have the
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we have the port of vancouver uh the coast there's we got fisheries i love fishing yeah but uh we there's
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opportunity up and down the coast and if if we can get the lower mainland on board i'd be all for that
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that'd be first option are the people of british columbia we hear that you know there are people
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who are obstructionists who don't want natural resources to go through your province but the
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people you speak with are they generally in favor of um you know expanding our pipelines and getting our
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oil to tide water in other places as opposed to having to ship all of it down to the united states
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to the south of us when people get hungry they will they'll change their mind and and they are
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and they are there is uh i think there's a a shift in the province to open up natural resources i i the
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north here we're all for it i'd like to see a banner above our province that says open for business
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alberta you want a pipeline let's talk let's get it done right now right so that saskatchewan you
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want it you want potash to the coast let's get it done because we saw what recently happened uh
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david ebby you know is i guess floundering there and then uh alberta is looking down down to washington
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state now well yeah scott moe in saskatchewan said we could just ship it through the states
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as opposed to going through british columbia and that pissed your your premier off quite a bit you
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know so i mean it's just it's just one of those things there's a lot of frustration that i'm feeling
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right now and i'm feeling it obviously in alberta because we're so far ahead and we're moving our
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way towards the referendum we're in the petition signing right now i'm cheering you guys are you
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i know you spoke i know you spoke with brad from the saskatchewan prosperity project are you reaching
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you're trying to reach out to other people to help you absolutely along right yeah i know a few people
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from the the app and uh in communication with them and uh they're keeping me abreast of what's going on and
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and uh and brad as well so they're they're in a tough predicament because they don't have a
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any provincial legislation that allows them to have a citizen's initiative we do in british columbia
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oh you do okay and it has been successful with this let me let's go let me just kind of go back
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around here to the the land claim issues you have a left-wing government there with your with your
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premier um and you said there might be a change coming do you think there's any chance that you
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may see your government switch back to the right a little bit here so that this opportunity for you
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as an independent as an independent country or an independent part with alberta and saskatchewan
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might even be a little bit easier because of that i don't see david ebby making it any easier
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well no no no he's calling us traitors out here for what we're talking about i mean he's
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he's raised the um the level of um hatred against people in the independence movement out here
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uh up to you know major levels and you're hearing everybody say that out here now he's been positive
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for the independence movement oh it's oh yes oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah jeff wrath here you know you
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know jeff i've interviewed him many times he says every time he opens his mouth and carny
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out in your mouth we push a hundred thousand people to the that's exactly right here yeah for
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sure so what are you doing you're trying to get people aboard how are you uh do you have a website
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right now we've got we've got a website being developed right now okay uh that facebook is
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it's yeah it blew up to about 15 000 members in in a week and a half there was a poll john this was a
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poll at castanet yesterday yep and it was sitting at about 30 percent it was an independence question
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uh it's castanet from cloner camel you might want to look that up i will it's still on there and i
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guess i guess people would repost it and that it ended up 37 and then they froze it before it even
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got into the evening with with 15 000 15 or 16 000 votes in in favor of british columbia independence
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37 that's where that's where it left off 15 or 16 000 votes so what's the what's the facebook is it
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bc prosperity project is that how people can find it that's correct yeah and if people want to get in
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contact with you you're going to have a website up soon be sure to let me know when that is so we can
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let people know about it okay absolutely good luck to you um it's just fascinating you know i did a
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video within the last couple of weeks and right now four provinces out of 10 are have groups that
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want to see their provinces break away from canada and i think canada is just withering and dying on
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the vine right now and the most we're getting right now be prepared for it because it's been coming our
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way michael be prepared for the insults and threats because that is coming your way as well and that's
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the best they can do for us the the tolerant polite canadians are lashing out at people who want a
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better life for their families and um for their province and uh and i don't think there's anything
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wrong with us going through this democratic process do you no absolutely not it's in place this is
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our citizens initiative is in place yeah and alberta and and federal government legislation
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uh quebec blazed the trail there yeah the clarity act yeah yeah i remember it all in place i remember
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it quite well and it's and it is a democratic process we're going through we can either vote yes
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in favor or no against uh here in alberta and who knows i think if one falls you'll see a number of
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the dominoes fall meaning provinces leaving canada and we would be at a great disadvantage if we don't
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join you and and if if we do there's the scott the potential for economic prosperity uh for the west
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saskatchewan alberta and bc is is immense i can't see what would happen to british columbia if all of
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a sudden there's a big gap in the middle of the country called alberta and we can get in the way
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you know and you've just been isolated from the rest of canada with a whole province in between so
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and change things a lot and that might be the best way for you to go just to join up with the west
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and unleash the beast of the west as i'd like to say yeah you're trading you have the opportunity
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to trade with the the us so you know it won't hinder you as much as i think bc could be quite
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disadvantaged without you guys absolutely michael thank you so much good luck to you uh keep me
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keep me up to date on what's going on out there um if you have an event that's going on you get
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together with a bunch of other people please let me know about it so we can talk about it
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um obviously i've spoken with saskatchewan about this not going to worry too much about quebec
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but and i talk a lot about independence here in alberta but i'm very interested in what's going on
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just to the west of us here um you'd be a great advantage to have you guys on our side and i just
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can't imagine can you imagine how we would just kill it if we had saskatchewan and alberta and at least
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part of british columbia all is one separate country it would be amazing phenomenal yeah michael
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thank you so much i appreciate it john appreciate it thanks for your time you go alberta yeah thank
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you michael henshaw he is a independence leader in british columbia we will keep up to date on this
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we'll let you know if anything happens and we're really excited about this but it is it's like a
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domino effect happening here uh if alberta goes who knows what will happen with the rest of the
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country but we're going to have our choice we're going to we're going to choose whether we want
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to stay or not thanks for watching if you like the video give it a thumbs up subscribe to the
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