Juno News - October 03, 2021


Canada has no idea how other countries are handling COVID

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COVID-19
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3 minutes

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678

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44

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In this episode, I talk about the vaccine passport in Ontario and why it needs to be reevaluated. I also talk about other jurisdictions and how they have dealt with similar issues in the past and present. I also discuss the lack of education about vaccines in Canada and why we should be looking to other countries for guidance.

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00:00:00.000 It's really concerning that when it comes to COVID-19, so many Canadian provinces,
00:00:09.500 particularly Ontario, operate in what I would call an information silo, in that you really
00:00:15.460 only know what's going on in your own province, and you don't have a sense of best practices,
00:00:20.240 what other countries are doing, what other provinces are even doing, to compare your
00:00:24.520 response to. So you can't gauge whether what you're doing is normal or not, or whether it's
00:00:29.040 very restrictive, or whether it's, you know, a lighter touch when it comes to the restrictions.
00:00:33.720 We just aren't talking about enough. We're not looking at other jurisdictions, and it's kind
00:00:38.620 of interesting. It's ironic, because particularly in Ontario, particularly in Toronto, I know people
00:00:43.360 like to pat themselves on the back and say, oh, I'm so worldly, I'm so informed, I'm so cosmopolitan.
00:00:47.620 No, you aren't, at least not anymore. People just seem really clueless about what's going on
00:00:52.720 in other jurisdictions, not really able to gauge sort of what's going on in their own province,
00:00:58.040 and I think that's been true for many things that we've had in the past. For instance, the school
00:01:01.820 rules. I would say Ontario school rules are so regressive, so restrictive compared to other
00:01:06.180 jurisdictions. The latest iteration of this, vaccine passports. Now, whatever you think about the vaccine
00:01:12.020 passport, you support them, you oppose them, whatever your perspective, Ontario's and a number
00:01:17.580 of other Canadian provinces, pretty much how it's done in Canada, is very severe to how it's being done
00:01:23.720 in other countries. So, I'll use Ontario as an example, because that's where I'm at, and that's
00:01:28.460 where I write about the most. In Ontario, the vaccine passport applies to so many indoor locations,
00:01:33.440 gyms, movie theaters, indoor dining, many other facilities, and the rule, you gotta show proof of
00:01:38.600 two doses of vaccine, all 12-year-olds and older. That's it. No exemptions. A couple very minor medical
00:01:46.580 exemptions. That you have an allergy to an ingredient in the dose, or that you had a severe reaction to
00:01:53.340 the first dose. So, they're letting you take a pass on the second dose. That's pretty much it. And
00:01:58.060 people would say to me, well, Fury, what else is it going to be? I mean, a vaccine passport's a 0.99
00:02:01.380 vaccine passport. That's how they work. You gotta have your two doses. I mean, you either have it or
00:02:04.620 you don't. Uh-uh. Not so. There are other jurisdictions that do it very differently. France,
00:02:10.060 for example. What they do over there is they say, okay, if you want the green light for the vaccine
00:02:14.520 passport, you gotta get the two doses of the vaccine, or you've got to show that you have had and
00:02:20.480 recovered from COVID-19 recently, as in, they acknowledge natural immunity in their vaccine
00:02:25.600 passport, or you've got to show that you've had a recent negative test. Really? Really. That's what
00:02:32.940 they do in France. Other jurisdictions have similar things like that. So, there's a whole bunch of other
00:02:37.460 things going on there. If, for some reason, you're really opposed to getting the vaccine, well, they go,
00:02:41.920 okay, if you want to get tested a couple times a week for the rest of, well, for the rest of the time
00:02:46.180 the vaccine passport's in place, you're welcome to do that. So, they're not pretty much wholesale
00:02:51.080 denying a whole bunch of people access to these facilities. They've come out with reasonable
00:02:55.400 workarounds. And you look at how France does it, and you go, well, you know, what's the problem? 0.88
00:02:59.840 Why can't we do that here? And that's why we've got to look around at other jurisdictions. That's why
00:03:04.300 we've got to talk about how they're doing it. I mean, again, whatever you think about Ontario's
00:03:08.780 vaccine passport, you support it, you don't support it. I think even people who do support it 0.96
00:03:13.540 need to acknowledge, it's really severe the way it's done here, and I think they should
00:03:18.120 probably revise it, tone it down. Why can't you do it more like France? 0.98