Juno News - January 28, 2026


Carney CAUGHT hiding food prices at grocery store


Episode Stats

Length

24 minutes

Words per Minute

171.88058

Word Count

4,172

Sentence Count

9

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

In this episode of the podcast, we talk about why so many Canadians are unhappy with the state of the country, and what could be to blame? We talk to Georgianne Burke, a political strategist with Pathway Group, to find out.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hiding the bad news
00:00:06.380 Prime Minister Carney's news conference this week
00:00:09.080 at a grocery store featured him
00:00:10.680 standing in front of some produce
00:00:12.620 and as you can see
00:00:14.340 the embarrassingly high prices
00:00:16.120 of those avocados and apples behind Carney
00:00:18.820 were not on display
00:00:20.180 they were removed ahead of time
00:00:22.760 and the conservatives raised the issue
00:00:24.960 during question period
00:00:26.020 Yesterday the Prime Minister held a photo op
00:00:28.920 at a grocery store in front of food
00:00:30.860 but there was just one thing missing
00:00:35.800 the price tags
00:00:37.460 he had ordered his PMO staff
00:00:39.360 to literally show up early
00:00:41.240 at the grocery store
00:00:42.840 and remove the price tags
00:00:44.100 they're back up today
00:00:44.940 we went and checked
00:00:46.040 and they're really high
00:00:47.380 in fact grocery prices are rising faster in Canada
00:00:50.040 than in any other G7 country
00:00:52.080 twice as fast as in the States
00:00:53.880 twice as fast as when he took office
00:00:56.640 Mr. Speaker the hidden costs
00:00:58.220 that this Prime Minister imposes on inflation
00:01:00.380 will not go away because he tries to take down the price tag
00:01:03.900 why won't he take down the price?
00:01:05.100 The Right Honourable Prime Minister
00:01:08.200 Mr. Speaker, yesterday before I had lunch with the Premier of Ontario
00:01:14.440 I had a long meeting with the Premier of Ontario
00:01:16.640 I would like to introduce the Leader of the Opposition
00:01:19.540 to the Premier of Ontario
00:01:21.440 so he can learn something about cooperation
00:01:24.020 cooperation on housing
00:01:25.220 cooperation on building the best auto sector in the world
00:01:29.080 Well, despite that embarrassment
00:01:31.360 Carney did get some good news
00:01:32.760 the likelihood of a spring election just improved
00:01:35.520 after the release of some surprisingly strong polling numbers
00:01:39.060 for the governing Liberals
00:01:40.220 this headline in the National Post
00:01:42.480 Liberals reached 47% voter support
00:01:46.020 after Carney's Davos
00:01:47.960 China trip Leger Paul
00:01:50.160 Among decided voters
00:01:52.640 the Liberals are up 4 points
00:01:53.940 the Conservatives are up 2 points
00:01:55.940 but 9 points back of the Grits
00:01:57.740 the NDP and Bloc trailing well behind
00:02:00.900 losing support to Carney's Liberals
00:02:03.920 Now that may surprise some
00:02:06.820 considering only 35% of Canadians think
00:02:09.920 the country is headed in the right direction
00:02:11.800 according to abacus polling
00:02:14.200 and if you look at grocery prices
00:02:16.460 housing prices, crime
00:02:19.000 all continue to fester
00:02:20.400 nine months after the election
00:02:21.900 so if so many Canadians are miserable
00:02:25.340 about the state of the country
00:02:26.700 what's behind the Liberal surge?
00:02:29.180 Well, maybe Georgianne Burke has some answers
00:02:31.040 she is a political strategist with Pathway Group
00:02:34.320 Welcome once again, Georgianne
00:02:36.180 Thank you
00:02:37.180 Okay, so if so many Canadians are unhappy
00:02:39.320 which polls suggest they are
00:02:41.460 thinking that the country is going in the wrong direction
00:02:43.960 how do you explain a number like 47% support
00:02:46.560 that Leger has out there for the Liberals?
00:02:50.120 Well, there's two possibilities
00:02:52.900 one I said to you before is that
00:02:55.160 maybe we need to do a massive national IQ test
00:02:58.540 the other is that the polling company itself
00:03:01.200 might be a little bit skewed on this
00:03:04.900 I'd love to see the sample that they actually reached out to
00:03:07.560 who the people were that they talked to
00:03:09.000 I can tell you that people that I talk to
00:03:12.400 and I don't exclusively by any stretch talk to conservatives
00:03:15.440 I talk to a lot of people from different
00:03:17.280 I talk to a lot of non-political people
00:03:19.120 frankly, just regular ordinary Canadians
00:03:21.420 who tell me that the prices
00:03:23.360 when they used to go out to eat
00:03:25.360 and get breakfast for like 15 bucks
00:03:27.280 now it costs them 25
00:03:29.020 so they don't go out to breakfast anymore
00:03:31.000 it's too expensive
00:03:33.000 they go to the grocery store
00:03:34.600 they used to pay $100 and come back with
00:03:36.900 you know, three or four decent sized bags
00:03:40.340 now $100 buys them two bags of groceries
00:03:44.540 and the bags aren't bigger
00:03:45.780 they have the same size as they were before
00:03:47.720 so this tells me that people do know that things aren't right
00:03:51.580 I just don't know who they're asking these questions to
00:03:54.720 and if it is Trump derangement syndrome
00:03:56.560 that is driving the response
00:03:58.020 then people really do need to have their IQ tested
00:04:00.260 because that is not a reason
00:04:01.620 to say that this government is doing well
00:04:04.420 because they don't like Donald Trump
00:04:05.700 I don't, that's a complete disconnect to me
00:04:07.520 I don't get it
00:04:08.260 Yeah, we're going to double back to the poll in a minute
00:04:11.860 but you mentioned groceries
00:04:13.260 and we had this incident yesterday
00:04:16.580 well, it was discussed yesterday
00:04:18.400 during question period
00:04:19.780 where Carney did his news conference
00:04:22.920 in front of a grocery, well, in front of a produce
00:04:25.540 I think they were, I think they were apples
00:04:28.100 and avocados
00:04:29.140 Yeah, as a matter of fact, I think they were
00:04:30.580 because they don't want to remind people
00:04:32.980 that they can no longer afford to buy avocados
00:04:35.380 but it was, he was called on it
00:04:38.320 and then naturally he didn't have an answer for it
00:04:40.520 They had, there are no prices on anything
00:04:44.000 but that's because if they saw the prices
00:04:46.260 and they heard what he was saying
00:04:48.300 there would be an automatic like
00:04:49.700 what is he talking about?
00:04:51.340 Doesn't he turn around and look at the prices
00:04:52.600 on the apples behind him
00:04:53.800 and he was out in sort of my old neck of the woods
00:04:58.140 out in the Depean area
00:04:59.240 where I did almost all of my grocery shopping
00:05:01.500 and it's not any more expensive there
00:05:03.380 than it is anywhere else in Ottawa
00:05:04.580 okay
00:05:05.340 so I'm telling you the people all over the city
00:05:08.440 and all over the province
00:05:09.420 and all over the country
00:05:10.280 are paying way more for food than they should
00:05:12.460 and these guys refuse to acknowledge
00:05:15.120 that many of the taxes that were put on
00:05:18.600 for, I would call them ideological taxes
00:05:21.780 for ideological reasons related to climate change
00:05:24.720 and other silly nonsense
00:05:26.720 are the things that are driving costs up
00:05:29.420 it isn't labor costs that are driving costs up anymore
00:05:33.660 it isn't that
00:05:34.840 it's crazy regulations
00:05:37.340 crazy taxes
00:05:39.160 that are making it impossible to do business
00:05:42.000 in a profitable way
00:05:44.300 anymore without raising your prices
00:05:46.760 and people get resentful of
00:05:49.600 you know grocers
00:05:50.300 who are selling food at elevated prices
00:05:52.980 saying oh they're just getting rich on this
00:05:55.820 well
00:05:56.140 I don't know if anybody knows
00:05:57.940 what a narrow margin
00:05:59.460 there is in the grocery business
00:06:01.720 and the restaurant business
00:06:03.020 and all the food businesses
00:06:04.580 it's very narrow margin
00:06:05.680 very labor intensive
00:06:07.520 and they should understand
00:06:10.380 that part of this is caused
00:06:11.880 it's not being caused by the actual people
00:06:14.460 that are running these businesses
00:06:16.040 it's being caused
00:06:16.800 caused by the cost of doing business
00:06:18.820 taxes, regulations
00:06:20.300 and other things that interfere
00:06:21.760 with a free market
00:06:24.020 and we've got 10 months of
00:06:27.180 the liberals doing nothing
00:06:28.600 on crime
00:06:30.060 or the affordability issue
00:06:32.120 just in the last
00:06:32.960 couple of weeks
00:06:34.100 we've had announcements on both
00:06:35.380 on bail reform
00:06:36.940 as well as
00:06:37.760 we saw the
00:06:38.760 GST credits
00:06:40.440 and so
00:06:41.760 you can't help but one
00:06:42.860 something like bribing you
00:06:43.720 with your own money Mark
00:06:44.680 that's what I say
00:06:45.540 exactly
00:06:45.980 yeah
00:06:46.340 someone said putting their hand
00:06:47.640 in your back pocket
00:06:48.360 and putting it into your front pocket
00:06:49.840 I thought that was a very good description
00:06:51.940 yeah
00:06:52.740 exactly
00:06:53.400 but is it an indicator
00:06:55.220 that these guys
00:06:56.040 are thinking
00:06:57.580 election
00:06:58.620 in 20 classes
00:06:59.620 maybe even early
00:07:00.560 in election
00:07:01.060 and if they see a number
00:07:02.060 like 47%
00:07:03.000 they think
00:07:03.400 great
00:07:03.720 you know
00:07:04.240 we're poised to get our
00:07:05.480 desperately needed
00:07:06.840 majority
00:07:07.780 I guess they can't get it
00:07:09.620 by people
00:07:10.940 crossing the floor
00:07:11.820 unless there's going to be
00:07:12.620 some major
00:07:13.140 event happening
00:07:14.420 over the next few weeks
00:07:15.420 in that regard
00:07:16.520 they may not get it
00:07:17.200 in that way
00:07:17.600 and I don't think
00:07:18.560 they can govern
00:07:19.220 without a majority
00:07:21.140 so
00:07:22.160 is this a sign
00:07:23.560 that
00:07:24.400 suggests to you
00:07:25.560 that we could be going
00:07:26.120 to the polls
00:07:26.700 in 2026
00:07:27.880 well
00:07:28.680 if the poll was true
00:07:30.180 and I was the liberal
00:07:31.940 party
00:07:32.580 I would say
00:07:33.120 we ought to get to the polls
00:07:34.060 as soon as possible
00:07:34.840 but I'm not sure
00:07:35.760 that that poll is actually true
00:07:37.080 it might be
00:07:38.100 somewhat true
00:07:39.200 they might be
00:07:39.920 somewhat stronger
00:07:40.760 because of the Davos speech
00:07:42.860 but as soon as people
00:07:43.560 actually
00:07:44.080 think about it
00:07:45.480 they're going to realize
00:07:45.960 how big a mistake
00:07:46.620 the Davos speech was
00:07:47.800 a mistake
00:07:48.820 actually if
00:07:50.380 people haven't had a chance
00:07:51.520 to read Joe Oliver's
00:07:52.660 column that he wrote yesterday
00:07:53.860 I don't remember
00:07:54.900 if it was the National Post
00:07:55.700 or Financial Post
00:07:56.500 it was one or the other
00:07:57.940 a phenomenal discussion
00:08:00.100 of Carney
00:08:01.160 and his government
00:08:02.000 and Davos
00:08:03.140 and a very dispassionate
00:08:05.300 fair
00:08:05.700 even-handed
00:08:06.800 manner
00:08:07.220 as Joe can only do
00:08:09.660 it was written
00:08:11.220 very very well
00:08:12.100 and everyone should read it
00:08:13.100 because you get
00:08:13.800 the real picture
00:08:14.460 but on the topic
00:08:16.240 of an election
00:08:16.860 I think they were hoping
00:08:18.820 that Pierre was going
00:08:20.040 to have a bad time
00:08:20.820 at his convention
00:08:21.920 in Calgary
00:08:23.480 where I am headed
00:08:24.720 at the end of this week
00:08:25.640 I don't think he will
00:08:27.340 I think he'll be just fine
00:08:28.500 so that's going to nix that
00:08:30.140 so now they've got to get real
00:08:31.220 and decide
00:08:31.920 what they're going to do
00:08:33.560 so one of the things
00:08:34.280 they are doing
00:08:34.760 is stealing
00:08:35.600 which liberals
00:08:37.380 are good at
00:08:38.040 some of the ideas
00:08:39.320 that were conservative
00:08:41.200 platform ideas
00:08:42.400 and in their own fashion
00:08:45.660 implementing them
00:08:46.540 and kind of claiming
00:08:47.140 see we did this
00:08:48.180 including getting rid
00:08:50.260 of the consumer
00:08:51.140 part of the carbon tax
00:08:53.020 but not the industrial part
00:08:54.420 which is where the real cost is
00:08:55.720 and a few other things
00:08:58.220 so I do think
00:09:00.100 they're trying to position
00:09:00.920 themselves to say
00:09:01.880 you know
00:09:03.000 the bail reform
00:09:03.940 is a big thing
00:09:05.060 that's a big deal
00:09:05.860 but will they actually
00:09:06.700 do it in a way
00:09:07.380 that's meaningful
00:09:07.920 I don't know
00:09:08.480 I guess we'll have
00:09:09.000 to wait and see
00:09:09.540 they are kind of
00:09:11.840 pushing on
00:09:12.540 some of the bills
00:09:14.320 that they have
00:09:15.000 this foreign
00:09:15.960 interference
00:09:16.860 changes to the
00:09:19.240 foreign interference act
00:09:20.300 and appointing
00:09:21.620 a foreign interference
00:09:22.720 czar
00:09:23.620 does that mean
00:09:24.120 they're going to
00:09:25.000 get more or less
00:09:25.780 foreign interference
00:09:26.520 I haven't figured out
00:09:27.420 which it's going to be
00:09:28.040 under the liberals
00:09:28.640 but they're doing
00:09:31.380 some of these things
00:09:31.940 which sound to me
00:09:32.720 like they're trying
00:09:33.280 to position themselves
00:09:34.060 to say look at
00:09:34.660 what we've accomplished
00:09:35.580 and of course
00:09:37.620 he's basking in the glow
00:09:38.980 of all the
00:09:39.640 hoo-ha
00:09:41.560 about his speech
00:09:42.220 in Davos
00:09:42.700 which in fact
00:09:43.340 was a horribly
00:09:44.240 dangerous speech
00:09:45.120 that he made
00:09:45.700 and I think
00:09:46.600 put Canada
00:09:47.520 at great risk
00:09:48.460 I'm sure there are
00:09:49.960 Canadians that are
00:09:50.540 going to be listening
00:09:50.960 to this and saying
00:09:51.560 oh what does she know
00:09:52.500 we have to stand up
00:09:53.520 against that
00:09:54.000 orange haired monster
00:09:56.200 from south
00:09:57.240 south of us
00:09:58.140 well
00:09:58.700 okay
00:10:00.120 you know
00:10:00.600 you can think
00:10:01.120 that all you want
00:10:01.760 but 70%
00:10:02.620 of the goods
00:10:03.300 that are traded
00:10:04.440 from Canada
00:10:05.480 are traded
00:10:05.980 with the United States
00:10:06.900 if you want to continue
00:10:07.940 to be able to do that
00:10:08.880 you better get
00:10:10.080 into the program
00:10:11.780 and figure out
00:10:12.260 how to play nice
00:10:13.020 with the President
00:10:14.260 of the United States
00:10:15.100 and you heard
00:10:17.500 the comments
00:10:18.040 from Besant
00:10:19.560 Commerce Secretary
00:10:21.220 suggesting
00:10:21.700 office when
00:10:23.280 Carney and
00:10:25.040 the President
00:10:25.720 were having
00:10:26.540 a discussion
00:10:27.140 and that
00:10:27.680 it appeared
00:10:28.620 that Carney
00:10:30.160 was
00:10:30.600 backpedaling
00:10:32.780 a little bit
00:10:33.440 or walking back
00:10:34.740 some of the things
00:10:35.360 that he had said
00:10:36.200 that may have
00:10:37.400 irritated the Americans
00:10:38.720 suggesting that
00:10:39.920 they were basically
00:10:40.880 bullies
00:10:41.520 pushing around
00:10:42.180 other countries
00:10:42.920 and then of course
00:10:45.560 he had the denial
00:10:46.880 by Carney himself
00:10:48.340 saying oh no
00:10:49.180 you know
00:10:50.000 I simply reiterated
00:10:51.060 my position
00:10:51.860 but isn't it true
00:10:54.200 that the transcripts
00:10:55.580 of those phone calls
00:10:56.440 eventually are made public
00:10:57.500 when the President
00:10:58.980 is talking to
00:11:00.080 a world leader?
00:11:01.880 Let's say
00:11:02.320 they could be
00:11:03.060 if the President
00:11:03.840 was so inclined
00:11:04.720 they definitely
00:11:06.280 have them
00:11:06.860 every single
00:11:07.520 conversation
00:11:08.800 he has
00:11:10.100 of an official nature
00:11:11.080 is taped
00:11:13.140 and is transcribed
00:11:14.680 and there are copies
00:11:15.840 of it all over the place
00:11:16.840 they're not in public
00:11:17.960 now
00:11:18.560 but they could be
00:11:19.400 if he keeps that up
00:11:20.680 and says
00:11:21.120 no I didn't actually
00:11:22.660 say that I didn't mean
00:11:23.840 what I said
00:11:24.400 because the other day
00:11:25.840 I heard him
00:11:26.360 say that he actually
00:11:27.980 meant what he said
00:11:28.720 well the President
00:11:30.360 heard that too
00:11:31.140 especially
00:11:31.580 after he probably
00:11:33.060 told him
00:11:33.480 well I think that
00:11:34.440 you know
00:11:34.780 maybe they're
00:11:35.400 overstating what I was saying
00:11:36.800 I wasn't really talking
00:11:38.020 about the United States
00:11:38.780 I was talking about
00:11:39.300 Russia and China
00:11:39.920 when I was talking
00:11:40.520 about these great powers
00:11:42.300 that are dangerous
00:11:43.080 I didn't really mean
00:11:44.280 the United States
00:11:45.100 okay whatever
00:11:47.700 meanwhile you went
00:11:49.220 to China
00:11:49.720 you went to Qatar
00:11:50.940 you know
00:11:52.620 two not exactly
00:11:53.820 reliable
00:11:54.480 partners
00:11:55.680 that's
00:11:56.460 and it's interesting
00:11:57.180 because someone says
00:11:57.860 would you say
00:11:58.380 never do any business
00:11:59.620 with either of them
00:12:00.180 no
00:12:00.440 you've got to know
00:12:01.440 what you're dealing with
00:12:02.240 you've got to know
00:12:03.320 who you're dealing with
00:12:04.140 and you've got to have
00:12:04.740 a strong leader
00:12:06.160 who's capable
00:12:07.040 of handling that
00:12:08.120 he is none of the above
00:12:09.620 none of the above
00:12:10.980 I want to ask you
00:12:12.880 about Iran
00:12:13.660 because
00:12:14.600 the numbers
00:12:15.640 that are coming out
00:12:16.360 of there
00:12:16.580 the crackdown
00:12:17.340 are truly horrific
00:12:19.060 and
00:12:20.420 we're hearing numbers
00:12:21.700 like 30,000 people
00:12:23.160 massacred
00:12:24.600 and to my knowledge
00:12:25.660 there has been
00:12:26.220 no statement
00:12:26.860 coming out of our government
00:12:28.300 I mean
00:12:29.580 the Canadian government
00:12:31.520 has had no official statement
00:12:32.740 you're correct
00:12:33.700 how do you account for that
00:12:35.220 well
00:12:37.460 I could be a really nasty person
00:12:39.840 and say that
00:12:40.580 I think they don't
00:12:41.340 that they're on the wrong
00:12:42.960 side of history
00:12:43.700 and that they don't
00:12:44.720 actually care
00:12:45.480 and that they may
00:12:46.680 actually have
00:12:47.600 within their own caucus
00:12:49.100 people who support
00:12:50.000 what's going on there
00:12:50.900 and not from the side
00:12:52.960 of the people
00:12:53.360 who want to get rid
00:12:54.040 of this government
00:12:54.600 but support the moolahs
00:12:55.800 I could be nasty
00:12:57.580 and say that
00:12:58.140 or I could say
00:12:58.680 they're just incompetent
00:12:59.960 it might be a combination
00:13:01.860 of both
00:13:02.540 it is horrifying
00:13:05.000 to me
00:13:05.500 that
00:13:05.760 they were so quick
00:13:07.780 to condemn Israel
00:13:09.580 for a made up genocide
00:13:11.100 a complete lie
00:13:12.480 but here
00:13:13.460 when you actually have
00:13:14.680 real video
00:13:16.860 real statements
00:13:18.300 coming from real people
00:13:19.220 about what's going on there
00:13:20.100 the number
00:13:20.760 I don't know
00:13:22.240 how accurate the number is
00:13:23.160 you never can be sure
00:13:23.920 but it doesn't matter
00:13:24.660 we know the numbers are large
00:13:25.960 that much we do know
00:13:26.940 and I'm hearing it
00:13:29.120 from people
00:13:29.580 who have family there
00:13:31.020 who are witnessing
00:13:32.020 what's going on
00:13:32.720 in the streets
00:13:33.120 every single day
00:13:34.360 whose child
00:13:36.200 a young 13 year old boy
00:13:37.400 was murdered
00:13:37.900 the other day
00:13:38.620 just murdered
00:13:40.160 in the street
00:13:40.680 by the thug
00:13:43.480 the armed thugs
00:13:44.220 of the moolahs
00:13:44.900 this is what is going on there
00:13:46.380 and that's because
00:13:47.280 the people of Iran
00:13:48.240 are standing up
00:13:49.060 against their government
00:13:50.520 I am assuming
00:13:53.940 and I can be proven wrong
00:13:57.040 on this
00:13:57.400 but I'm assuming
00:13:57.940 that what's happening
00:13:58.560 from the U.S. perspective
00:13:59.900 and based on some statements
00:14:01.700 that the president
00:14:02.360 has made recently
00:14:03.220 that they are
00:14:04.620 practicing
00:14:05.680 what they're going to do
00:14:08.320 they are moving
00:14:09.080 ships into the area
00:14:11.040 which means
00:14:11.900 air carriers
00:14:15.820 and other
00:14:16.740 other military
00:14:18.860 that comes on ships
00:14:20.280 into the area
00:14:21.760 close enough
00:14:22.360 to be able to deal
00:14:23.200 with the situation there
00:14:24.640 and they certainly
00:14:28.560 are planning
00:14:29.360 what they can do
00:14:30.040 if they need to do it
00:14:30.900 his preference
00:14:31.840 would obviously
00:14:32.400 not be to go in
00:14:33.400 and throw bombs
00:14:35.060 on all of the Iran
00:14:35.980 and harm the population
00:14:38.480 and start a whole uproar there
00:14:40.540 he doesn't want to do that
00:14:41.400 that's not his nature
00:14:42.360 he would like it
00:14:43.600 if they would
00:14:44.160 agree to stop
00:14:45.820 their nuclear stuff
00:14:47.180 would agree to
00:14:48.100 release the political prisoners
00:14:49.440 would agree to
00:14:50.640 you know
00:14:51.980 stop the humanitarian
00:14:54.080 the anti-humanitarian
00:14:56.200 behaviors of this government
00:14:57.440 he'd be happy with that
00:14:58.520 but
00:14:59.240 the likelihood
00:15:00.600 of that happening
00:15:01.960 is almost none
00:15:02.740 so
00:15:03.460 the question is
00:15:04.460 what will the U.S. do
00:15:05.520 and I think
00:15:06.080 that they're
00:15:06.680 at a point now
00:15:07.960 where
00:15:09.200 like Maduro
00:15:10.680 he offered Maduro
00:15:11.980 many chances
00:15:12.760 to get out of it
00:15:14.040 without having to get arrested
00:15:15.080 and picked up
00:15:15.660 and removed
00:15:16.240 he declined
00:15:19.100 much like
00:15:20.560 Iran is declining
00:15:21.740 to be cooperative
00:15:22.720 in negotiations
00:15:23.940 which it means
00:15:25.380 that it's a matter of time
00:15:26.180 before some kind of action
00:15:27.160 is taken
00:15:27.620 people of Iran
00:15:28.920 are being very patient
00:15:30.420 considering how horrible
00:15:32.180 things are
00:15:32.820 my heart breaks
00:15:33.980 for them every day
00:15:34.880 I have a lot of friends
00:15:36.800 in the Iranian community
00:15:37.800 many of whom
00:15:38.860 I've known for many years
00:15:39.700 but many of whom
00:15:40.280 I've gotten to know
00:15:41.180 since October 7th
00:15:42.760 because they are
00:15:43.660 one community
00:15:44.440 that has stood with Israel
00:15:45.840 and the Jewish community
00:15:46.880 because they actually
00:15:47.980 understand the problem
00:15:48.980 they understand it
00:15:50.480 they've lived with it
00:15:51.200 so
00:15:52.320 my heart goes out
00:15:54.060 to them
00:15:54.380 and it breaks
00:15:54.820 to hear
00:15:55.420 the stories
00:15:56.200 that they tell me
00:15:56.920 I hear every day
00:15:58.320 from
00:15:58.740 there are two or three people
00:15:59.680 that are very tuned in
00:16:01.420 and send me stuff
00:16:02.700 every day
00:16:03.260 that they've translated
00:16:04.800 from Farsi
00:16:05.660 for my benefit
00:16:07.140 because I don't know
00:16:07.840 that language
00:16:08.420 to tell me
00:16:09.740 what's going on there
00:16:10.500 and it's pretty horrifying
00:16:11.740 it's pretty horrifying
00:16:13.120 and we've heard nothing
00:16:14.860 from our government
00:16:15.580 not one word
00:16:17.060 not a word
00:16:18.120 I mean
00:16:18.400 I've been scouring
00:16:19.760 the media
00:16:20.440 to find something official
00:16:22.140 and I'm not talking about
00:16:23.020 you know
00:16:23.240 this
00:16:23.420 a random MP
00:16:24.580 at some event
00:16:26.260 saying something nice
00:16:27.220 I'm talking about
00:16:27.880 an official statement
00:16:28.580 for either the minister
00:16:29.740 of foreign affairs
00:16:30.460 or the prime minister
00:16:32.220 nothing
00:16:33.240 zero
00:16:33.900 it's shocking
00:16:35.440 you would think
00:16:36.800 that some of the
00:16:37.320 mainstream media reporters
00:16:38.660 press gaggle
00:16:40.500 would pose that question
00:16:42.220 and nobody has
00:16:43.240 it's like
00:16:44.060 it's not really happening
00:16:45.020 maybe
00:16:45.480 they think
00:16:46.340 that if they don't report it
00:16:47.440 and don't ask questions
00:16:48.360 then for all intents and purposes
00:16:49.800 it doesn't
00:16:50.920 it's not happening
00:16:51.680 I have to get back
00:16:54.060 to the poll
00:16:54.660 and I hate to bounce around
00:16:56.480 like this
00:16:56.980 but
00:16:57.260 one thing that has stood out
00:16:59.120 is that the liberal support
00:17:00.260 they're up four points
00:17:01.380 to 47%
00:17:02.340 if you believe this poll
00:17:03.520 and I understand
00:17:04.080 your skepticism
00:17:04.920 but it's all come
00:17:07.200 at the expense
00:17:07.800 of the bloc
00:17:08.340 and the NDP
00:17:08.860 because the Tories
00:17:09.900 are actually up two
00:17:10.820 they're up two points
00:17:12.340 yeah
00:17:13.040 but they're
00:17:14.100 you know
00:17:14.560 nine points back
00:17:15.800 of the libs
00:17:16.320 what does it tell you
00:17:17.920 that the liberals
00:17:19.080 are sucking up
00:17:20.780 like the left
00:17:22.760 we're almost
00:17:24.480 gravitating towards
00:17:25.880 a two-party system
00:17:27.180 in this country
00:17:28.320 slowly but surely
00:17:29.580 the NDP
00:17:30.880 imploded under
00:17:32.260 Jagmeet Singh
00:17:33.080 the bloc is
00:17:35.380 up and down
00:17:36.380 sometimes
00:17:36.920 depending on
00:17:37.840 sentiment in Quebec
00:17:38.600 but that's where
00:17:40.620 the support is coming from
00:17:41.720 it's not coming from
00:17:42.620 the conservative side
00:17:43.800 any thinking about that
00:17:45.460 well it makes sense to me
00:17:47.300 that the conservative side
00:17:48.240 would not be
00:17:49.020 leaking any support
00:17:51.440 over to the liberals
00:17:52.340 any real conservatives
00:17:53.680 would not
00:17:54.200 and then in fact
00:17:55.560 we know
00:17:56.160 that the younger cohort
00:17:58.240 of voters
00:17:58.760 who have in the past
00:18:00.500 not been very reliable
00:18:01.760 as voters
00:18:02.220 but are becoming more so
00:18:03.300 and I'll point to the United States
00:18:05.000 to show you
00:18:05.480 what can happen
00:18:06.060 when they get activated
00:18:07.160 they were very key
00:18:08.920 to Donald Trump's win
00:18:10.060 in 2024
00:18:11.040 and it hasn't fallen
00:18:13.920 completely out of sight
00:18:15.540 to either side
00:18:17.360 of the equation
00:18:18.300 in Canada
00:18:18.940 both sides know
00:18:20.080 that if that group
00:18:21.220 ever gets activated
00:18:22.120 they can impact
00:18:24.220 the outcome of the election
00:18:25.340 in a very serious way
00:18:26.520 that being said
00:18:28.000 the other parties
00:18:30.720 that are more
00:18:31.860 on the left
00:18:32.740 the bloc
00:18:34.040 and the NDP
00:18:35.280 I won't even talk
00:18:36.960 about the Greens
00:18:37.640 but the bloc
00:18:38.680 and the NDP
00:18:39.160 there was a consolidation
00:18:41.640 of certainly NDP vote
00:18:43.940 in the last election
00:18:44.800 and that's not
00:18:45.380 an unusual phenomenon
00:18:46.460 it's happened before
00:18:47.800 but
00:18:48.860 not to the degree
00:18:51.980 that it was
00:18:52.580 the last time
00:18:53.100 there was a complete collapse
00:18:54.620 of the NDP vote
00:18:55.960 the last time
00:18:56.580 the bloc
00:18:57.600 had a collapse
00:18:59.140 in some places
00:18:59.880 but in other places
00:19:00.680 did really well
00:19:03.020 it's very
00:19:04.180 it's a very
00:19:04.840 I'll be very honest
00:19:06.540 with you
00:19:06.860 I know a lot
00:19:07.400 about Canadian politics
00:19:08.180 I don't understand
00:19:09.560 Quebec at all
00:19:10.260 I just don't understand it
00:19:11.620 it's so weird
00:19:12.580 and so
00:19:14.640 not predictable
00:19:16.080 I think that
00:19:18.320 in some things
00:19:19.220 the bloc
00:19:19.720 is very much
00:19:20.620 aligned with
00:19:21.140 the conservatives
00:19:21.640 and in other things
00:19:23.240 they're very much
00:19:23.880 aligned with
00:19:24.540 the liberals
00:19:24.980 and
00:19:26.300 that's because
00:19:27.920 they're aligned
00:19:28.480 with themselves
00:19:29.220 and with
00:19:30.100 what they view
00:19:31.480 as Quebec's interest
00:19:32.940 I don't think
00:19:33.400 they're particularly
00:19:34.000 ideological
00:19:34.720 one way
00:19:35.720 or the other
00:19:36.160 they appear
00:19:36.620 to be more
00:19:37.060 left-leaning
00:19:37.660 on some things
00:19:39.140 but really
00:19:40.480 they're quite
00:19:41.360 conservative
00:19:41.840 in other areas
00:19:43.520 so
00:19:44.360 I just don't know
00:19:47.240 where they would
00:19:47.620 end up going
00:19:48.160 their voters
00:19:48.660 I'm not sure
00:19:49.300 their voters
00:19:49.660 would end up
00:19:50.000 going anywhere
00:19:50.480 as a matter of fact
00:19:51.040 it may
00:19:51.620 accrue to their
00:19:52.860 benefit
00:19:53.820 because I think
00:19:54.780 there's a very
00:19:55.360 strong feeling
00:19:56.420 about
00:19:57.200 the government
00:19:59.360 the government
00:20:00.620 incursions
00:20:01.280 interprovincial
00:20:02.060 sovereignty
00:20:03.040 and as they
00:20:04.760 see it
00:20:05.020 national sovereignty
00:20:05.900 in Quebec
00:20:06.600 they want them
00:20:07.720 to stay the hell
00:20:08.280 out
00:20:08.580 and apparently
00:20:09.240 the liberals
00:20:09.880 don't think
00:20:10.440 they need to do
00:20:11.080 that
00:20:11.360 they don't seem
00:20:12.560 to respect that
00:20:13.420 they talk about it
00:20:14.440 but they don't
00:20:14.920 in their actions
00:20:15.580 so it could be
00:20:16.760 a negative thing
00:20:17.440 for them
00:20:17.860 but you are right
00:20:21.560 that this phenomenon
00:20:22.400 of consolidation
00:20:23.340 could continue
00:20:24.900 to the point
00:20:25.980 where we will be
00:20:26.880 a two-party system
00:20:27.620 and I'm going
00:20:27.980 to tell you
00:20:28.460 that my people
00:20:31.780 we have a long
00:20:33.040 history of being
00:20:33.560 prophets
00:20:33.920 so I'm going
00:20:36.100 to take
00:20:36.700 the opportunity
00:20:39.380 to use that
00:20:40.380 prophet status
00:20:41.120 to say
00:20:41.380 I told them
00:20:42.180 in my own party
00:20:43.860 several years ago
00:20:45.300 that we were
00:20:46.280 drifting in the
00:20:47.100 direction of a
00:20:47.960 two-party system
00:20:48.780 and they went
00:20:49.800 oh no
00:20:50.340 that's like
00:20:51.140 the United States
00:20:51.880 and you're just
00:20:52.320 saying that
00:20:52.640 because you're
00:20:52.960 an American
00:20:53.240 I said
00:20:53.540 no I'm saying
00:20:54.120 because it's got
00:20:54.520 two eyes
00:20:55.320 two ears
00:20:56.580 I watch
00:20:57.680 and I listen
00:20:58.200 and I can see
00:20:58.940 what's happening
00:20:59.500 that voters
00:21:01.000 are becoming
00:21:01.900 more
00:21:02.900 more partisan
00:21:05.440 and putting
00:21:07.640 their vote
00:21:08.080 where they think
00:21:08.660 it can win
00:21:09.380 right
00:21:10.320 so people
00:21:11.080 who even
00:21:11.500 though they're
00:21:11.800 not really
00:21:12.440 liberals
00:21:12.820 in the full
00:21:13.820 sense of the word
00:21:14.540 go there
00:21:15.400 because they
00:21:15.860 figure they'll
00:21:16.220 get more
00:21:16.520 of their agenda
00:21:17.120 there than
00:21:17.700 they ever will
00:21:18.200 on the other
00:21:18.600 side
00:21:18.960 right
00:21:20.000 so that's
00:21:21.680 something that
00:21:22.140 you know
00:21:22.500 every party
00:21:23.480 should be aware
00:21:24.020 of
00:21:24.320 and it was
00:21:25.480 no more apparent
00:21:26.460 than it was
00:21:27.000 in this last
00:21:27.700 election
00:21:28.120 when
00:21:28.780 a 42%
00:21:31.040 vote
00:21:31.800 total
00:21:32.380 that we got
00:21:32.960 on the conservative
00:21:33.580 side
00:21:33.960 would have been
00:21:34.580 a gigantic
00:21:35.360 minority
00:21:35.900 in the
00:21:36.160 majority
00:21:36.660 I should say
00:21:37.280 in the
00:21:37.500 pounce
00:21:37.760 gigantic
00:21:38.500 it would have
00:21:39.280 been
00:21:39.460 you know
00:21:39.980 in the
00:21:40.820 Brian Mulroney
00:21:41.860 size
00:21:42.940 of a majority
00:21:44.620 but no
00:21:45.380 that's not
00:21:45.820 what happened
00:21:46.280 as you know
00:21:47.260 and that's
00:21:48.600 because of the
00:21:49.120 collapse of the
00:21:49.900 vote on the
00:21:50.320 other side
00:21:50.840 yeah
00:21:52.280 and it's
00:21:52.740 wild
00:21:53.220 I mean
00:21:53.620 the liberals
00:21:54.120 had 43%
00:21:55.280 and couldn't
00:21:56.020 muster up
00:21:56.560 a majority
00:21:57.160 it's just
00:22:00.120 insane
00:22:00.520 so
00:22:01.580 it's something
00:22:02.800 that I think
00:22:03.220 the parties
00:22:03.580 are going to
00:22:03.820 have to
00:22:04.120 rejig their
00:22:04.740 thinking
00:22:05.080 about how
00:22:05.680 they conduct
00:22:06.560 their elections
00:22:07.100 they're going
00:22:07.380 to have to
00:22:07.660 start thinking
00:22:08.160 the way
00:22:09.100 Americans do
00:22:09.920 about
00:22:10.240 the American
00:22:11.300 political
00:22:11.840 body does
00:22:13.040 about its
00:22:13.520 elections
00:22:13.840 and I will
00:22:14.660 tell you
00:22:15.220 that Canadian
00:22:16.480 liberals
00:22:17.020 have been
00:22:17.480 using American
00:22:19.080 elections
00:22:22.140 experts
00:22:22.700 for many
00:22:23.600 years
00:22:24.040 and I
00:22:25.400 would
00:22:25.600 suggest
00:22:25.940 that the
00:22:26.520 conservatives
00:22:26.960 don't have
00:22:28.400 to use
00:22:28.700 them for
00:22:28.940 everything
00:22:29.260 but should
00:22:29.600 get some
00:22:29.940 advice
00:22:30.300 about how
00:22:30.720 to run
00:22:31.000 a two-party
00:22:31.500 race
00:22:31.900 because that's
00:22:33.480 pretty much
00:22:33.880 what we're
00:22:34.100 talking about
00:22:34.620 here
00:22:34.760 even if you
00:22:35.600 are in a
00:22:36.140 race with
00:22:36.580 four parties
00:22:37.640 or five
00:22:38.080 parties
00:22:38.480 run it
00:22:39.460 like it's
00:22:39.800 a two-party
00:22:40.320 race
00:22:40.820 yeah
00:22:42.440 it's
00:22:43.000 a different
00:22:44.180 strategy
00:22:44.700 than if
00:22:45.280 you're dealing
00:22:45.560 with a bunch
00:22:47.360 of parties
00:22:47.800 that could
00:22:48.920 do well
00:22:49.420 I mean
00:22:49.780 the NDP
00:22:50.480 now according
00:22:51.120 to this
00:22:51.400 poll I think
00:22:51.800 they're down
00:22:52.040 to five
00:22:52.440 percent
00:22:52.820 I mean
00:22:53.740 they are
00:22:54.080 basically
00:22:54.500 a fringe
00:22:54.980 party
00:22:55.380 now
00:22:55.720 and I
00:22:56.700 you know
00:22:57.180 a few
00:22:57.920 years ago
00:22:58.340 I would
00:22:58.660 have not
00:22:58.920 had anything
00:22:59.360 nice to
00:22:59.780 say about
00:23:00.120 Don Davies
00:23:00.800 actually still
00:23:01.820 don't
00:23:02.220 but man
00:23:03.100 he was
00:23:03.440 funny at
00:23:03.940 that press
00:23:04.440 gallery
00:23:04.920 roast
00:23:06.540 that they
00:23:06.900 did
00:23:07.180 their annual
00:23:07.980 press
00:23:08.260 gallery
00:23:08.560 event
00:23:08.840 I don't
00:23:09.360 know if
00:23:09.560 you heard
00:23:09.780 his speech
00:23:10.200 but if
00:23:10.460 you didn't
00:23:11.240 look it
00:23:11.760 up
00:23:12.020 it is
00:23:12.420 hilarious
00:23:13.160 and he
00:23:14.360 manages
00:23:14.740 I wish
00:23:15.900 that that
00:23:16.200 was the
00:23:16.420 way the
00:23:16.640 NDP
00:23:16.860 operated
00:23:17.360 all the
00:23:17.660 time
00:23:17.880 he managed
00:23:18.620 to be
00:23:18.900 on no
00:23:19.220 one's
00:23:19.440 side
00:23:19.720 and everyone's
00:23:20.620 side
00:23:20.840 at the
00:23:21.220 same
00:23:21.400 time
00:23:21.780 if you
00:23:22.160 know what
00:23:22.360 I mean
00:23:22.620 just in
00:23:23.260 humor
00:23:23.680 he actually
00:23:25.520 had
00:23:26.000 I think
00:23:27.080 that the
00:23:27.740 conservatives
00:23:28.160 actually took
00:23:29.040 the humor
00:23:29.460 much better
00:23:30.100 than the
00:23:30.420 liberals
00:23:30.680 did
00:23:31.020 even though
00:23:32.040 he was
00:23:32.360 equally
00:23:32.760 hard on
00:23:33.320 all of
00:23:33.640 them
00:23:33.800 but it
00:23:34.100 was
00:23:34.240 quite
00:23:34.940 funny
00:23:35.320 but the
00:23:36.580 NDP
00:23:36.820 is
00:23:37.220 a fair
00:23:37.980 shadow of
00:23:38.480 themselves
00:23:38.780 it's
00:23:39.140 hard to
00:23:39.620 believe
00:23:40.280 actually
00:23:40.780 that they've
00:23:41.660 come so far
00:23:42.220 from the
00:23:42.560 days of
00:23:43.120 you know
00:23:43.680 Ed Broadbent
00:23:44.340 when I came
00:23:44.840 to Canada
00:23:45.280 he was
00:23:45.800 their leader
00:23:46.300 and it
00:23:46.820 was a
00:23:47.060 pretty
00:23:47.220 powerful
00:23:47.600 party
00:23:48.020 yep
00:23:48.800 and then
00:23:50.600 that was
00:23:51.000 Jack Layton
00:23:51.540 when they
00:23:51.840 had
00:23:52.020 106
00:23:52.960 seats
00:23:53.400 under
00:23:53.840 Layton
00:23:54.120 yeah
00:23:54.380 absolutely
00:23:54.840 those days
00:23:55.280 are long
00:23:55.680 gone
00:23:55.960 Georgianne
00:23:56.740 thank you so
00:23:57.200 much for
00:23:57.460 coming on
00:23:57.780 the show
00:23:58.020 we appreciate
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