Juno News - Carney embraces “Make America Great Again”？

00:00:00.000 Prime Minister Carney is now calling for a new partnership with America.

00:00:10.380 At a speech this week at the Economic Club of New York,

00:00:14.320 Carney said Canada can help make America great again.

00:00:18.920 Canada provides the United States with reliable power,

00:00:21.920 with critical minerals that help fuel American growth.

00:00:25.840 99% of U.S. natural gas imports, 85% of electricity imports, 60%, 60% of crude oil imports.

00:00:35.360 That is mutual strength.

00:00:38.780 Let's be absolutely clear.

00:00:40.780 Canada Strong will help make America great again.

00:00:44.580 Well, the comments caught the attention of U.S. Ambassador to Canada Pete Hoekstra, who posted this on X.

00:00:51.880 Prime Minister Carney said something worth repeating today.

00:00:54.960 A Canada strong will help make America great again.

00:00:59.900 I think a lot of Americans can get behind that kind of positive message.

00:01:05.140 Does this signal a change in focus for Carney as pre-trade negotiations with the United States appear stuck in neutral?

00:01:14.780 All this as Canada sinks into a recession for the first time in six years.

00:01:19.720 This post by Conservative Party leader Pierre Polyev.

00:01:22.720 Mark Carney is now the only leader in the G7 to have plunged his economy into recession.

00:01:31.560 He's been Prime Minister for four quarters now.

00:01:34.920 The economy has shrunk in three of those quarters.

00:01:38.400 He's the only G7 leader who can say that.

00:01:41.020 Mr. Carney, if it really is global factors and tariffs that have given Canada the only recession in the G7,

00:01:48.600 why have France, Italy, Japan, Germany, the United Kingdom and the United States all avoided a

00:01:58.600 recession? Our guest today is Georgianne Burke, who is an expert in communications and political

00:02:03.340 strategy. Welcome to the show once again, Georgianne. Thank you, Mark. Let's listen once

00:02:08.140 again to what the prime minister had to say in New York yesterday. Canada provides the United

00:02:13.960 states with reliable power with critical minerals that help fuel american growth 99 of u.s natural

00:02:21.720 gas imports 85 of electricity imports 60 60 of crude oil imports that is mutual strength

00:02:32.360 let's be absolutely clear canada strong will help make america great again

00:02:38.200 okay um what can we determine from that has the prime minister seen the light now and decided it

00:02:46.840 makes no sense to take combative role with the trump administration and he's ready to play ball

00:02:52.220 what do you think well i would just say this um it is the end of may july 6th is rapidly coming

00:02:59.360 That is the KUSMA date, USMCA date.

00:03:05.560 I think probably he's heard a bit from business having concerns over the situation with the U.S.

00:03:13.920 The talk is pretty clear that everyone thinks he's not interested in negotiating USMCA.

00:03:21.980 It's becoming more clear that probably the U.S. is not terribly interested either.

00:03:27.500 He may have gotten himself into a trap by his behavior, and he's now trying to work his way

00:03:32.400 out of it. Do I think he's become MAGA? I think, as I said to you earlier, he's become MAGA like

00:03:37.780 I'd become a Cuban communist. There's no chance of either of those things happening. He is

00:03:45.100 a pathological liar. I'm going to be extremely blunt. This guy's a pathological liar. He's 1.00

00:03:53.720 from the day he started talking to the Canadian people.

00:03:56.720 Nothing he said during the campaign

00:03:58.720 is what he's actually done.

00:04:01.720 He's harmed the relationship with the US.

00:04:03.720 He blames Trump for it.

00:04:04.720 Trump's only part of the problem.

00:04:06.720 Takes two to tango.

00:04:08.720 The reaction and the behavior that he used

00:04:11.720 to get himself elected,

00:04:12.720 which is why he did what he did,

00:04:14.720 is part of the issue.

00:04:16.720 And he did it with a very unforgiving other side

00:04:19.720 with a lot more power and a lot more strength

00:04:22.720 lot more strength and a lot more clout than Canada has made a big mistake so I'm looking at this

00:04:30.160 saying if I was a business owner in Canada right now I would be saying oh my god how are we going

00:04:37.380 to fix this and on top of that with the economic news today Canada's got a huge problem you can

00:04:45.540 call it a technical recession all you want a recession is a recession is a recession

00:04:49.200 And anybody who thought that we weren't in recession, now they've got it officially.

00:04:55.880 But business people can tell you that business has been horrible over the last year.

00:05:02.200 Yeah, but you've got people like U.S. Ambassador Hukstra, Ambassador to Canada, who seems to be impressed with what he heard from Prime Minister Carney.

00:05:14.040 This post by Hoekstra, by Mr. Carney, said something worth repeating today.

00:05:18.960 Canada strong will help make America great again.

00:05:22.560 I think a lot of Americans can get behind that kind of positive message.

00:05:27.520 What do you think of that?

00:05:29.000 I think he's doing his job as a diplomat.

00:05:32.260 And I think what he's saying is, you see, we told you so.

00:05:36.600 Which is exactly, I mean, the truth is that's what the Americans have been saying all along.

00:05:40.720 It's Canada that's been saying, we don't need you.

00:05:43.320 you you we can be on our own we don't need america um you need us and that's not what he

00:05:51.520 said yesterday okay he said we can work together we have this talking about oil i mean are you

00:05:57.900 serious this is a guy who's prevented he spent most of his life is uh at least in the last number

00:06:04.220 of years on his net zero project you know being anti uh uh carbon based fuel um so all of a sudden

00:06:13.140 And now he's in favor of selling oil to the United States.

00:06:16.080 Wow. Come on. You know, I he just I just don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

00:06:21.860 He reminds me of the Iranians and the Chinese. 1.00

00:06:25.660 They lie, lie, lie till they get what they want. 1.00

00:06:30.060 So, OK, I don't trust him.

00:06:33.580 Yeah, I mean, but we'll just get the attention of the president.

00:06:37.780 In other words, this to me, when you say the words make America great again, is it's directed at the administration, the architect of make America great again, which is what will Trump make of this?

00:06:52.680 Sure. Well, does anybody think that Trump is stupid? 1.00

00:06:56.500 He's going to look at it. He's going to laugh and he's going to say, yeah, right. 1.00

00:07:00.180 Okay. He's going into whatever they're doing with USMCA with the wide open eyes. Maybe he thinks

00:07:09.780 that now Canada is back on its heel. He sees that this is kind of a form of begging. Maybe he feels

00:07:16.600 this is a good sign for the US. I don't know. I would not ever deign to say I know how Donald

00:07:23.180 Trump thinks. I just observe what he does. That tells me more about what he thinks than

00:07:27.480 trying to figure out what he thinks but if I were looking at it if it was me I would say

00:07:33.580 wow these guys must think they're in trouble to have him say anything about making America great

00:07:39.260 again because there was some words that would never have come out of his mouth a year ago so

00:07:44.500 maybe the combination of economic news and the impending USMCA deadline and the fact that he was

00:07:53.120 in the United States talking to an American audience made him speak differently than he has

00:07:59.760 but I will reiterate I do not believe anything the man says he is a liar he lied and lied to

00:08:07.120 the Canadian people he said a lot of things during the election that he hasn't done

00:08:11.080 they can't do could never have done but he promised and now we see more stories coming

00:08:19.900 out of him and i i'm gonna wait and see what happens i just don't believe anything he says

00:08:23.900 um you know i i do believe canada is on its back foot on on relationship with the u.s that comes

00:08:31.720 from many sources that i know i was just on a call this morning with uh people who are pretty

00:08:39.000 much in the know what's going on there and they're not happy with canada um you know that they were

00:08:44.300 removed from the permanent joint joint joint board well they weren't removed from the permanent

00:08:48.000 joint board on defense it was a that's a bilateral agreement between canada and the us the us has

00:08:52.640 just said we're done they've walked away from it and that's because they don't trust canada

00:08:58.480 um he wasn't invited to the board of peace because he doesn't trust canada on the security side

00:09:06.000 five eyes there's some question about whether they're involved or not but i think they're

00:09:09.120 limiting the information they give them because they don't trust them and now with the um overtures

00:09:15.040 he's making to china who everyone knows is who donald trump perceives as the great enemy

00:09:21.920 the biggest enemy we face and the source even more than iran of all things evil okay uh no matter what 0.80

00:09:30.400 he says about g okay he can he always says nice things about these leaders but he isn't stupid he

00:09:35.840 knows what he's dealing with um but why why would you trust canada uh when they won't tell you for

00:09:42.560 For example, what the deal was that they made with the police stations in Canada.

00:09:47.460 They won't admit to any of this information.

00:09:50.320 So we have a problem.

00:09:52.260 We have a deficit of truth.

00:09:54.340 We have a prime minister that has lied to us over and over again.

00:09:57.840 And what he said yesterday doesn't have a ring of truth to it because I don't believe that he believes that he wants to make America great again.

00:10:05.660 I just don't.

00:10:06.360 Yeah, and there might be an element of desperation creeping in because, to your point about CUSMA, that deadline is rapidly approaching, and negotiations will continue after that.

00:10:14.720 We're getting our wheels here, and Trump has said repeatedly that, you know, they need the deal way more than we do.

00:10:22.160 And so maybe Carney woke up one day and realized, oh, this might not happen, in which case there's no way that we're going to be able to make up the amount of trade that we now do with the United States by cutting deals with China and in Europe.

00:10:39.740 They are not going to buy our stuff to the same degree that the Americans have been doing so for decades.

00:10:45.020 isn't it possible that maybe he just woke up and said uh-oh maybe we burned some bridges with the

00:10:51.960 americans and let's see if we can't try to rebuild them could that have happened in this case so

00:10:58.360 knowing how these things work um information that is i suspect that he knew several days ago that

00:11:05.300 this report was coming down from the government on the state of the economy okay and he knew he

00:11:10.700 was going to be talking in new york and he breathed a sigh of relief it was the day before the report

00:11:14.820 came out okay um but i think that he knew that this was coming and now he's got to do some

00:11:21.440 backpedaling maybe that explains the tone of the speech yesterday um i honestly think that

00:11:27.840 um this is a guy who goes around saying i just saw another another uh quote of him talking about

00:11:34.540 how he saved Canada during the downturn in 2008. And that makes me so angry, so angry,

00:11:43.040 because it's such a lie. And how he saved Brexit. I'm not sure what that actually means. In England,

00:11:50.100 they actually broke away from the EU. So what was his role in that? I'm not exactly sure.

00:11:57.060 but I do know that he's not highly regarded in England for his work as the governor of the Bank

00:12:05.540 of England. And then this guy was guiding, and I use that term very loosely, for five years before

00:12:11.960 he took office, the Trudeau administration. I'm sure they called on him before that too,

00:12:18.300 but providing advice as they drove us into the ground. Well, this is his resume as far as I'm

00:12:25.040 concerned i don't care about all his degrees and whatever whatever whatever his brookfield blah

00:12:29.320 blah blah that's all for himself it has nothing to do with the canadian people so i'm looking at

00:12:36.180 it and i'm saying i don't understand how this is good for canada um you know the stuff that i'm

00:12:42.800 seeing is the opposite yeah i mean liz trust the former prime minister seems to have his number

00:12:49.240 And she's been very public about what a terrible job he did when she was prime minister.

00:12:56.000 And she kind of blames him, I think, for creating the economic chaos that led to her ouster.

00:13:02.420 But also in the UK, as you probably heard, Tony Blair, another arch globalist along the lines of Mark Carney, has done an about face as well just a couple of days ago.

00:13:13.820 And it came out and urged the U.K. government to ditch net zero and to cut a deal with Trump.

00:13:20.840 And so with Carney now saying, well, we can help you make America greater,

00:13:26.180 I'm just wondering if the globalists are in retreat here as a result of this.

00:13:33.160 The big gorilla in the room is the U.S.

00:13:37.120 And the lead gorilla of the gorillas is Donald Trump.

00:13:40.900 And he is not a shy guy.

00:13:42.280 he has made it very clear that if you continue to stick to this net zero nonsense and these

00:13:48.860 these as he calls it the green new scam he's right on it he doesn't mince words he understands that

00:13:54.640 these things are not real that they don't have anything to do with the environment they have to

00:13:58.240 do with people making money hand over fist and cheating the taxpayer and destroying the economy 0.99

00:14:03.900 so um i guess the message is finally coming through tony blair is not an idiot okay he's 1.00

00:14:09.840 not an idiot. Tony Blair is probably one of the, he's a, he is a globalist, but he's one of the 0.99

00:14:14.140 smarter people out there. As I said, not an idiot. Maybe he woke up and saw it and, you know, Mark 0.99

00:14:21.040 Carney, like he adores anything the British do. So he would follow suit and that, you know, maybe

00:14:27.100 that's what's going on. You might be very well, right. Maybe they're beginning to realize this

00:14:31.580 is a losing proposition for them. The people don't like it. The Americans don't like it. And

00:14:36.660 The Americans are still the big the big shots in the economy, in the world economy, in defense and everything else.

00:14:42.880 Like they're out there doing what they do. And, you know, the Straits of War moves and all that.

00:14:47.560 If he actually pulls off what he's doing in Iran right now, the rest of these guys ought to just throw it in the towel and say, whatever you say, Don, is good with us.

00:14:58.180 They really should. Yeah, I mean, you know, he still seems popular, does Carney.

00:15:04.120 I mean, the polls suggest that Canadians think, a lot of Canadians still think he's doing a good job, but the walls are closing in on a multitude of fronts, whether you're talking about national unity with referendums coming up in Alberta and the push for independence there.

00:15:21.760 You've got the PQ looming large in Quebec and possibly another separatist referendum.

00:15:28.700 And the Quebecers are not going to mess around with a referendum about a referendum.

00:15:33.240 They're just going to have it.

00:15:34.880 PQ wins the election.

00:15:36.540 You've got a country in recession.

00:15:38.460 You've got trade deals that are spinning their wheels.

00:15:43.200 You know, with the United States, our biggest partner in our relationship with that country,

00:15:47.060 seeming to be at the lowest ebb that I can ever recall. 0.64

00:15:51.760 and you know he's trying to negotiate things with China of all countries which makes us look like a

00:15:58.400 national security threat to our American neighbors I mean how much are we going to get out of the

00:16:04.120 Europeans you know it just seems to be he's got a lot of plates spinning in the air and they're 0.98

00:16:10.420 all about to fall last word to you yeah I I can't disagree with a single word you said

00:16:16.580 and it looks to me like all of these things are coming together he's had a year to make progress

00:16:22.600 on the promises he made to do something significant to turn the economy around he hasn't done it he's

00:16:28.760 made it worse and now he's stuck between a rock and a hard place and Donald Trump is not going

00:16:33.820 to back off he is where he is and the rest of the world seems to be opening its eyes and saying well

00:16:40.400 okay I guess you know we're going to have to go along to get along and he may be the last guy in

00:16:46.240 but I don't think he's going to have a choice.

00:16:48.100 Then what are all the El Bozo's going to do?

00:16:50.780 They'll probably have,

00:16:52.060 they'll probably have,

00:16:53.280 you'll see major sites of hair on fire in Canada.

00:16:57.240 It'll be a sight to be seen.

00:17:00.200 All the,

00:17:00.520 all those sprinkler systems will be going off in the condo buildings in

00:17:03.720 Toronto.

00:17:05.560 Georgianne,

00:17:06.080 thank you so much for coming on the show.

00:17:07.520 We appreciate it as always.

00:17:09.000 You're so welcome.

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Juno News - May 29, 2026

Carney embraces “Make America Great Again”？

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