Juno News - August 14, 2021


How will Canada deal with the Chinese regime？


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4 minutes

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850

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In this episode, I discuss a document that was sent around to senior officials in the Chinese Communist Party and the government apparatus laying out the way things are going to roll under Xi Jinping and the values that are to be encouraged and the ones that are not.

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00:00:00.000 All the frustrations Canadians have with China rising to the fore again after the news came out
00:00:10.440 that arbitrarily detained Canadian Michael Spavor has been sentenced to 11 years in prison. This is
00:00:17.440 after being held in very bad conditions for almost 1,000 days. Michael Spavor and of course Michael
00:00:24.020 Kovrig both believed to be held as basically hostages in retaliation for the lawful arrest
00:00:29.260 of Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou. I want to talk today about an issue that I've written about before I've
00:00:35.960 discussed before. I think we need to revisit it and really talk about its importance in light of
00:00:41.040 all of this as we're having renewed conversations about how to deal with Canada's relationship with
00:00:46.040 China particularly now that we're having an election and we're going to be talking about a
00:00:49.920 whole bunch of foreign affairs issues and that issue I want to speak about is document number nine. This
00:00:55.600 notorious document that first appeared a number of years ago right after Xi Jinping first became
00:01:01.040 the leader of the Chinese Communist Party after he started calling the shots. Document nine is this
00:01:06.620 is this document that was sent around to senior bureaucrats and senior officials in the Chinese
00:01:12.680 Communist Party and then the government apparatus laying out the way things are going to roll under
00:01:17.920 Xi Jinping and the values that are to be encouraged and most particularly the ones that are to not be
00:01:24.620 encouraged. The big no-no's all the no-no's that that the chief bureaucrats should not be doing
00:01:29.880 unless they want to run afoul of the way Xi Jinping wants things to operate and what's so interesting is
00:01:35.640 is all of the things in this document that he says don't do they're basically the Western values
00:01:41.100 Western ideals which he really frowns upon and in this document they talk about things like
00:01:46.480 freedom of the press human rights as they are traditionally discussed in the West and
00:01:51.740 here's one key one to understanding what's going on with the two Michaels an independent judiciary so
00:01:58.660 there are all these things that we sort of hold to be given because generally when it comes to our
00:02:03.180 allies and G7 nations and when we have a lot of these sort of global cocktail parties a lot of the
00:02:08.300 main players at those events they are they are political leaders who govern nations that largely follow
00:02:14.040 those same sort of democratic principles key ideals and and when we sit around and we talk about foreign
00:02:19.680 affairs or diplomacy or what have you we're kind of all following the same rules and yet those are
00:02:25.520 all the rules that Xi Jinping says we're not going to do them and guys please do not let them take root
00:02:30.440 in China that's not how they roll so independent judiciary a thing that we take very seriously in
00:02:35.760 Canada as we should the United States UK France all of our other big allies similar things in China
00:02:42.000 under Xi Jinping and under the Chinese Communist Party well there's no such thing I mean the Chinese
00:02:47.260 Communist Party which is the political party that obviously governs uh China in an authoritarian way
00:02:53.180 right now they say well if we want to have a say in the outcome of court processes that's what we're
00:02:58.460 going to do there's not this independent judge thing there's not this sort of this broader ideal
00:03:03.100 of justice that is separated uh from the Communist Party values I mean to us that's kind of crazy to
00:03:08.780 think that that would happen of course you have your liberal your NDP your conservative different ones are
00:03:12.860 in power different times they're bringing in different pieces of legislation but you still
00:03:17.020 have the courts and the Supreme Court and the separation of powers and so forth that's not how
00:03:21.580 it operates under Xi Jinping so one of the challenges when when we have these discussions about what to do
00:03:27.980 with the two Michaels and and you know how to come to their defense in a legal sense or in a sort of
00:03:33.340 rallying our allies to uh to come to their defense uh on the international stage is we have to make sure we
00:03:40.140 don't fall into the trap of of projecting our principles and our ideals onto China into thinking
00:03:46.380 that the way we have these negotiations or just the way we talk about how to deal with China moving
00:03:50.780 forward as you know regular folks and news consumers here in Canada that we don't make the
00:03:55.340 mistake of thinking that they operate the way we do and that's why I think document number nine
00:04:01.340 understanding uh what it's all about what it says and and how it really personifies the Xi Jinping agenda
00:04:08.060 it's a thing that everybody's got to know about and discuss and kind of internalize
00:04:12.380 because well before you get your starting points going in terms of how you respond and react to
00:04:16.540 China you got to know what their starting points are and Xi Jinping pretty transparent articulating them
00:04:21.980 and documents just like that