Juno News - October 21, 2022LISTEN： Brenda Lucki appears to politically interfere in ongoing NS mass shooting investigation
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Summary
In this episode, Detective Chief Darren Campbell talks about his role in responding to a 911 call from a responding officer who asked for more information about the weapons used in the shooting, and why it was not included in his initial response.
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So just to be clear, Darren is not comfortable noting the make
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So the deputy and I had a brief conversation afternoon,
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so at around 12.30 our time, so 11.30 our time,
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Someone from my team had a conversation with Darren.
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And raised the request that came from the deputy.
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So I reached back to Deputy Brennan to confirm what the command triangle
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as well as Superintendent Campbell were comfortable saying,
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and that was semi-automatic handguns, what can be considered assault weapons.
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So the deputy wrote back at around 2 o'clock to confirm.
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So to be clear, and in the email, Darren is not comfortable noting the make
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I said, correct, the investigative team, including Darren.
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And then the second question was, will he be stating another location of the shooters
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was searched and was negative for any more weapons?
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I said he's prepared and will do his best to include this in a response on fame
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I will own the fact that that was not included or adjusted in his remarks.
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Until almost 1.30 our time, and based on the prepping that we had done before,
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we were under the understanding that we wouldn't be providing any.
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And then we got the message from Leah's team member that the deputy commissioner
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wanted the handguns included in terms of number and type.
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And we then changed the answer, knowing that we were just literally minutes away
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from having the text of that loaded up for posting.
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So from my perspective, there was never any understanding that we would be actually changing
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his remarks because those were pretty much a lock.
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It was, we got the message an hour and a little, or I guess an hour before he was going into that room.
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We changed the answer to here are the number and the types, the semi-automatic handguns,
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handguns, and so on, like Leah just said, but it wasn't my understanding in prepping with Darren
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that that was going to be, that the statement itself was going to change.
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Does anybody realize what's going on in the world of handguns and guns right now?
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The fact that they're in the middle of trying to get a legislation going,
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the fact that that legislation is supposed to actually help police and the fact that
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the very little information I asked to be put in speaking notes at around 11.30 this morning
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is when I started this, which was three or more hours before Darren was to speak,
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The fact that I asked eight, almost eight hours before for a chronology and a map
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couldn't be provided in eight hours, but yet it could be provided on the ninth or 10th hour
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when it was too late, four days or five days after the event.
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So does anybody wonder why I feel frustrated or I feel like I'm not being heard,
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Is anybody seeing that or is it just, am I being oversensitive?
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I just want to let you know that we had conversations with comms in and around the guns
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I wasn't given any kind of updated insertion on the weapons, so that never even made it
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into the notes that I was provided in terms of what I was going to deliver today.
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I didn't get any requests from anybody for a timeline for this today at all, so I haven't seen.
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I'm just referring to that event because that happened to me last Thursday
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All I can say is we worked tirelessly, all of us, on providing a proper and accurate timeline
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with so much information coming in and getting an accurate map with national headquarters as well
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with the equipment we had, which is why we ended up with such an excellent product.
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I realized that there was a request for it to be done Thursday, but with what we had
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and we were putting all the effort in, we couldn't get it all done on Thursday
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but had the product ready to go, an accurate product on Friday.
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And that's not because we're all sitting here doing nothing.
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We're trying to put it all together with a lot of information.
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So I would never accuse you of sitting around and doing nothing.
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My point is we worked really hard on it to meet the deadline and we couldn't meet it
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with the information that was coming in and still wasn't available to provide a proper,
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accurate timeline at the deadline on Thursdays.