Juno News - August 24, 2021


Some Canadians are refusing to learn to live with COVID

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In this episode, I speak with Dr. Dr. Kelly Holmes, the Chief Medical Officer of Health for the Province of Ontario, about the evolving nature of covid19 and why we need to stop obsessing so much about the raw case numbers.

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00:00:00.000 here in canada we've got public health officials from various different provinces saying it's time
00:00:09.440 to learn to live with covid british columbia alberta even the chief medical officer of health
00:00:14.860 for ontario which is one of the more lockdown restrictive provinces or at least has been
00:00:19.820 for the past year and a half even their new chief medical officer dr kieran moore saying
00:00:24.200 we gotta learn to live with covid this isn't going away it's an endemic illness and part of that part
00:00:30.860 of that advice from these medical officers has been we've got to stop obsessing over the raw case
00:00:36.760 counts because as vaccination rates increase as natural immunity from prior infection increases
00:00:42.240 what it means to test positive for covid19 means something very different it means less substantively
00:00:49.800 than it did in the past in terms of what that denotes for serious outcomes and hospitalizations
00:00:55.160 icu beds and deaths and so on and so forth which is why we see a different discussion and even a
00:01:01.240 different way of reporting the numbers from different officials in all of these provinces
00:01:05.480 for example i'll give you one little example christine elliott she's the health minister of 0.99
00:01:09.340 ontario and every day at a certain time she tweets out well she used to tweet out the new daily cases
00:01:15.500 for ontario now she does it a little differently she isn't so focused on cases that's not the first
00:01:21.380 thing her little twitter thread of latest developments in ontario about covid is about
00:01:25.840 talking more about vaccination rates and then statistics around hospitalizations and then gets
00:01:30.720 to the case count but is acknowledging that okay the case counts just aren't that big of a deal
00:01:35.140 but i noticed that there are a lot of people across canada who just still can't internalize that
00:01:40.320 message from our public health officials that cases they just ain't what they used to be they
00:01:45.700 don't matter as much as they used to matter so when you hear people say oh we've got these projections
00:01:51.220 about covid cases let's talk about modeling with cases and so forth okay do what you want with your
00:01:57.060 modeling but but why why should we pay such great attention well why should it matter so much please
00:02:02.740 don't tell me oh we gotta shut this down we gotta shut that down because of rising cases no it doesn't
00:02:10.060 work that way anymore and it's kind of frustrating to see that there are so many people including
00:02:14.620 some people in the medical community who are just so resistant to evolving the way we look at covid 19
00:02:21.080 they are resistant to acknowledging that this is evolving into being an endemic illness one that
00:02:26.140 can be quite serious for a number of people so needs to be taken seriously in some respects absolutely
00:02:31.620 but this basic argument and i always had problems with this basic argument whenever it would occur but
00:02:36.560 the one from from previous incarnations where you said cases are up society must lock down i had a
00:02:42.500 lot of problems with the way we had that conversation in the past but now like moving forward that it's
00:02:48.680 not even a serious conversation whatever you thought about things in the past that moving forward well
00:02:53.200 that's that's not what the medical officers of health they're saying that's just junk science and yet
00:02:57.820 there are some people who are so seized upon it they just still don't want to evolve into a new
00:03:03.320 response to dealing with those numbers and it's really integral i think moving into the fall
00:03:07.380 that all of those officials bc alberta ontario elsewhere who are saying it's about learning to
00:03:13.020 live with covid it's about learning that the raw case numbers let's please stop obsessing over that
00:03:18.800 well that's what they're saying and that's that's the program everybody's got to get with now
00:03:22.560 moving forward
00:03:23.480 you