Juno News - June 25, 2024


The rise of patriotic populism in France


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As it stands right now, a 28-year-old conservative social media influencer, Jordan Bardella is set to become the next Prime Minister of France. Well joining us now on the show to help explain this incredible political shift taking place in France is political activist and leader of the Patriot Network, Enzo Alain Alain (Enzo) Enzo is a political activist, political leader and founder of the patriot network, and is also a member of the patriots network.

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00:00:00.000 well the european political awakening is well and truly underway right-wing populist leaders are on
00:00:08.800 the rise and the european union election results just two weeks ago proved once and for all that
00:00:14.400 europeans are now turning their backs on the globalist far left that have had such a strong
00:00:19.600 grip on power in europe over the past 10 years nowhere was this political shift more evident
00:00:26.240 than what we have seen in france marine le pen's national rally party defeated emmanuel macron
00:00:32.960 so badly in the european union elections that within hours he dissolved parliament and called
00:00:38.960 a snap parliamentary election now to say that public opinion in marine le pen's favor is one-sided
00:00:45.120 would be a major understatement by early july the final round of voting will begin in france's
00:00:50.960 parliamentary elections and as it stands right now a 28 year old conservative social media
00:00:57.440 influencer jordan bardella is set to become the next prime minister of france well joining us now on the
00:01:03.680 show to help explain this incredible political shift taking place in france is political activist
00:01:10.160 and leader of the patriot network enzo alias and so thank you so much for coming on the show thank
00:01:16.080 you so much harrison for the invitation i'm really glad to be there with you
00:01:19.360 amazing so obviously the french are well in their way of the general election it is it has started
00:01:26.800 and we're seeing a major shift happen in your country with marine le pen dominating in the polls
00:01:33.760 after a dominant eu election victory for the national rally party take us through what exactly went wrong
00:01:41.920 for emmanuel macron because the polls tell us that he is destined for a major defeat yes um
00:01:48.880 um it's true we win a large victory at the european election with uh 32 percent so it's a large
00:01:56.000 victory and the macron party made of 14 so we make more than the double so we are really happy about
00:02:03.840 that and just after that few hours after the the results macron say he want to dissolve the national
00:02:11.520 assembly so like marine le pen has four so we are really glad about that so now we have a new
00:02:19.200 legislative election in three weeks and the polls are really good for us because they said we will be
00:02:25.440 between 32 to 33 percent and we also made an alliance with les republicans is a right party so uh it is the
00:02:35.920 first time i think a big party is ready to make an alliance with the national rally so this is also
00:02:41.680 really good and um with this party we can make a right coalition and we also have dupont-aignan from
00:02:48.800 debout la france so now we are three parties in this coalition and the macron party is really afraid
00:02:55.520 about that because also the left make a big coalition and this coalition with melanchon and extremist left
00:03:03.280 people in the polls are between 27 to 20 percent so we are the first after we have the left coalition
00:03:12.400 and after we have macron so macron will be really a minority he will have a minority in the french
00:03:18.960 national assembly so he's really afraid about that and i think the people now know the macron policy
00:03:26.240 and is also for that they vote for marine le pen jordan bardella and if we win this election so it
00:03:32.720 means the president so just to for you for the whole viewer jordan jordan jordan bardella is now the
00:03:39.600 president of the national rally and marine le pen is the president of the group in the uh in the
00:03:45.680 national assembly but she will be uh also the candidate for the presidency election so she still 0.99
00:03:53.040 leads the party but jordan bardella is a new generation is really young he have 28 years old
00:04:01.120 is the president and if we win this election he will be prime minister so we will have a cohabitation
00:04:08.400 government and uh it was happening but 30 years ago so it was really uh whole and uh i hope uh jordan
00:04:17.280 bardella will be prime minister like this we can make new law to protect our sovereignty our identity our
00:04:24.640 uh economy because now uh the france is we are in really bad situation to be honest about economy about
00:04:32.320 uh uh insecurity about immigration france be worst and worst we also see many tourists who come in in 1.00
00:04:41.440 paris and it's terrible it's terrible because uh uh the people uh robbed the the bags also uh we have many
00:04:50.400 reps so so is the situation is worse and worse so i'm really happy about this situation and i i hope
00:04:57.520 in two two weeks because now he's in two weeks we will uh win this uh legislative election so you you
00:05:05.520 touched on some of the issues that are driving this election and driving this change toward the right in
00:05:11.280 france but i want to just get into more of those details what are the driving issues what are the issues
00:05:17.040 that the french people are most concerned about right now that have triggered such a major shift
00:05:23.200 in your country's politics yeah so the three most important points are firstly economy second uh insecurity
00:05:31.760 and third um immigration but also insecurity and immigration are the same points because for example
00:05:39.120 in paris we have 75 percent of insecurity is committed by uh migrants 75 so is is huge and also if you go 1.00
00:05:50.960 in the french jail you have almost 30 percent are foreigners so we don't have any place i mean many 1.00
00:06:00.240 places in jail because the jail are full are totally full so now we have uh the macron governments if you
00:06:07.200 want to go in jail in france maybe you have to to do to to to be arrested uh five times six times to go
00:06:13.360 in jail or you don't go in jail you still you you stay at home you have to to to stay in your home but
00:06:19.200 you don't go in jail because we don't have place in jail so it's crazy crazy situation yes so about the
00:06:25.680 economy is really a rough situation because for example in france we have the nuclear factory so we can
00:06:34.000 produce uh electricity uh electricity with a really good price but we are in the uh electricity market
00:06:40.480 so we have to follow uh germany we have to and they don't use anymore a nuclear so the price now is a
00:06:48.080 double uh i think uh two years ago i paid my my bill maybe 70 uh dollars per per month and now i pay 160
00:06:58.240 per month because the price is growing growing growing growing and the government don't do anything
00:07:03.840 about that so we want to to to leave this um electricity markets to uh have more money also we can
00:07:12.240 make a lot of you know economy uh of uh the immigration also about uh the inflation you know for the tax
00:07:21.200 uh because we have many many um uh company who uh go uh in romania or go in other country uh to make
00:07:31.360 uh uh illegal concurrence because in uh in europe you can put your factory in other uh country in the
00:07:39.360 european um continents and you pay low tax so we have for example in the building markets we have some
00:07:46.800 company from poland from other countries they pay uh they uh the worker maybe uh 400 per month but in
00:07:56.080 france the minimum salary is 1300 so it's impossible to work in this system the system is is really bad
00:08:05.840 and uh we have to fix it also uh in the european parliaments but also in uh the french parliaments
00:08:13.680 so that's uh the um national rally do we are working in the both assembly uh to make france
00:08:21.200 great again right and you touched on this earlier that jordan bardella the the potentially the next
00:08:28.400 prime minister very likely the next prime minister of france is a 28 year old who has a very large
00:08:34.800 tick tock following he's very effective on social media and this seems to be driven a lot by
00:08:41.600 the mobilization of young voters across the eu elections and what we're seeing in france talk
00:08:48.880 to me more about who this jordan bardella is and where he came from and how he's been able to appeal
00:08:54.960 to young french voters of course so i know well jordan bandana i know him previously he was not famous
00:09:02.720 you know he was just a member of the of the party so i i know him well he's a really good guy he's a
00:09:08.240 a really good guy and you know he started from the from the bottom uh he lived uh in the same city
00:09:14.080 of me uh close to paris in the insecurity zone with a lot of immigration so we know the the reality uh and
00:09:23.040 also um he he have now uh 20 uh years old so he started from the bottom uh to the regional council
00:09:31.440 after with the european parliament uh he was a president for the youth with me also he grew up
00:09:37.440 he grew up in the party because he's a really clever guy uh he's a kind guy so uh obviously marine
00:09:45.680 le pen sees a potential in both in bardella and is for that he trusts in bardella so i'm really happy
00:09:52.560 for him because i think he can be uh so prime prime minister but maybe after marine le pen also maybe
00:10:00.080 he will be also president of france he has the good potential to to to do it yeah to do this work
00:10:06.160 and also when he go on the tv show to make a deba uh with other people is is really strong you know
00:10:13.120 is is a is a war machine this guy is really really good and also uh yes for tick tock and the social
00:10:19.200 media is true he's really good for uh because uh the young people go on tick tock on x on facebook to uh
00:10:26.720 see uh the bardella video because he do a really good communication you know uh he spoke he speak
00:10:32.720 about the uh problem for the youth uh for example he want to push uh low low tax for uh the youngs
00:10:40.480 also if you want to buy a house a house the state will help you to make a company etc and we need that
00:10:47.280 in france because the people doesn't work to to work for the minimum salary so they want to to build a
00:10:53.600 new company to to have more company in france but we have too much tax for example i have two business
00:10:59.600 i pay uh 55 percent of tax is incredible incredible and i have to pay for some people who doesn't want
00:11:07.840 to work because they have the they help from the states if you stay at home and you doesn't want to
00:11:13.600 work the state give you a 600 euro and you don't have to pay for your flats so you you can stay like this
00:11:21.040 we know many many people in france they don't doesn't want to work because they have to get up
00:11:25.840 every morning to go to work but if uh you you make a a simple you know calcul between if you want to
00:11:33.040 to go to work for minimum salary or if you have to go uh to to stay at home and the majority of people
00:11:40.800 doesn't want to work so uh also i i think uh jordan bella will fix that you know to to to to push uh 0.99
00:11:49.440 everyone to go to work because we we need worker in france it's true of course you can't just you
00:11:55.360 can't just be sitting at home it's not good for it's not good for society exactly it's a compounding
00:12:00.960 problem one of the things that we've seen in canada at least is that the conservatives they're only now
00:12:08.720 just starting to attract young voters they're only now just starting to get young people on their side
00:12:14.960 traditionally the conservatives have never been successful in canada at getting young
00:12:20.320 people to vote for them and to look at the conservatives as an option but that's not the
00:12:25.040 case it appears in france it's not the case that it appears in europe as well european right-wing
00:12:31.200 populist parties have really been successful at getting youth to vote for them and getting them on
00:12:36.640 their side how do you think they've done that how do you think they've been so successful at doing that
00:12:40.880 well i think um in france you have two generations you have the generation of european uh new european
00:12:51.040 generation for example i'm half italian and you have another generation from uh the north of africa
00:12:59.280 like algerian moroccan tunisian etc and this you have one part of this generation they hate france
00:13:06.640 you know they make drug traffic they hate france and uh you have a lot of story about also murder
00:13:14.240 in france in the little town of crepol you have some guy from uh so this generation of north african
00:13:22.480 go in little uh town uh to make murder to kill white people so i think you have two two generation 0.59
00:13:31.200 and this generation are you know uh directly from flat uh frankly you know in opposition you have one
00:13:38.880 generation patriots and they love france etc and you have one generation they hate france because it's
00:13:45.920 also the fault of of the national education because at school as a teacher don't learn uh why did you have
00:13:54.960 to be proud about the french history they say oh uh the french have a a bad you know bad uh story 0.80
00:14:03.120 because we make colonization uh we make this bad this bad etc so a lot of french uh young french people
00:14:11.840 are not proud to be french and i think jordan bardella give this hope you know uh to to be to say yes you
00:14:21.600 have to be proud about your country is really important because if you are not proud to be french
00:14:27.520 you have you you broke you know you broke your hearts because it's not good it's not good for you
00:14:31.760 it's not good for your country so we have a lot of a lot of young people now uh be more patriot be
00:14:38.720 more proud uh and i think is for this reason and also you know in france we have the left the right
00:14:45.920 the the left the right for 50 years and we know no one change because they make alliance you know for
00:14:53.520 legislative election they have uh you know uh some speech at the tv show but when they do politics
00:15:01.360 they make aliens every time so now we say uh no more left no more right now we vote for the national
00:15:08.400 rally because the national rally have some uh you know decision from the right and from the left for
00:15:14.160 example for the uh economic uh decision we are agreed to help uh true uh you know uh french people who
00:15:23.200 wants money so we we are not a lot of liberal to be honest in the national rally we are not liberal
00:15:30.320 ultra liberal we were we are agreed to help people but uh who uh don't take advantage to stay at home
00:15:38.240 if you are uh you know people who are working for work but for a really a real situation okay we can
00:15:48.080 help you but if you want to take just advantage for that is not possible so we want to put first the
00:15:54.640 priority for french people because for the moment is not the the case for example if you are foreigner
00:16:01.040 and you come in france you have uh free uh health because you can go to the hospital we pay for everything
00:16:07.520 you have free uh uh flats and free food and this is not possible because we have a lot of homeless
00:16:13.840 people in the streets so we have to help uh homeless french people first and also french people first
00:16:22.160 yeah i mean of course that should be the priority of the government right to take care of its own
00:16:26.480 citizens first you know we certainly have a lot of similarities in our country with the the way the
00:16:31.680 education system tries to tell canadians to feel bad about our country our government peddles lies
00:16:38.560 to us about what we did that didn't actually happen to make us all feel bad these things happen and i
00:16:44.720 think as you rightly point out it matters it matters to the soul of the country for people to feel proud
00:16:50.640 about being where they're from there's a lot to be proud of for the french people like there's a lot
00:16:54.800 to be proud of for the canadian people i want to go back to something you said about this growing
00:16:59.840 population of north africans young north africans in france and i want to know from your perspective
00:17:07.280 how much the islamization of france has played a role in the rise of marine le pen we've seen a video
00:17:13.360 that has become extremely viral on social media of marine le pen just a few days ago saying that those
00:17:20.000 who are connected by nationals who are connected to islamist ideology must be stripped of their nationality 1.00
00:17:25.680 and expelled that language wouldn't fly in canada but i think it's obviously found a very large and
00:17:32.800 welcoming audience in france so let's talk about how islamization of your country has played a role
00:17:38.800 in the in this election yeah so we have in the largest city in france for example i live in marseille
00:17:45.760 so the second uh city in france in the south of france we have obviously i think we have 33 percent
00:17:53.200 uh of muslim uh population and i can say that because at school we know uh who don't go at school 0.99
00:18:02.000 for uh the aid feast so is a muslim feast so we know we have 33 percent of muslim people and in france
00:18:10.560 i think is yes it's probably the same thing because you have also um people get the national identity
00:18:19.040 so the people say so they are no more stranger but we know we have 30 33 percent of muslim in france
00:18:26.000 and we have some statistic is very um uh dangerous because uh 50 of the young muslim put the shy the 0.94
00:18:36.160 sharia law uh before uh the french law so this is really dangerous is very dangerous we have also the
00:18:44.720 muslim uh brother in france and uh they are hoping you know many uh new muslim school uh to put the
00:18:53.200 sharia uh uh first for the children uh we have many many many journalists are doing you know great
00:18:59.840 job to to check this school etc and we know we have a lot of islamic islamic people people and it's
00:19:06.560 also for that we have a lot of you know uh attenta in france like in nice like in bataclan etc we have
00:19:13.920 a lot of a lot of a lot of uh terrorists and also the police uh is um making a really great job
00:19:21.920 because if you have to look maybe 15 we we we think you know in france we have the uh the name is fisher s
00:19:30.240 so is uh like uh um uh advertise they put like a card of people they said is a dangerous guy and in
00:19:41.600 france we have uh 50 000 people like this so the police every day are checking the phone the computer
00:19:51.120 uh to to to to make sure we they don't do attenta but it's really really yes it's really dangerous and
00:19:58.480 also you have a lot of people like this they stay in jail only for uh four years five years and after
00:20:05.520 when they go uh in the streets they commit another attenta so it's really difficult because also the 0.64
00:20:12.640 french law uh don't do the job you know uh for example if you kill someone in france maybe you go
00:20:20.640 the maximum uh you know um time you can go in jail in jail is is like 25 years is a maximum you cannot go
00:20:32.240 more so the french law don't protect you know the french population and about islamization yes we
00:20:38.880 know is is terrific because in the big city you have some quarter is only muslim only muslim if you go 0.72
00:20:47.520 to to to buy some meats is only halal meats and if you and you have also a big you know
00:20:55.120 uh uh fast food uh factory now they are only halal because they know the market they know the french
00:21:04.400 also the christian people can buy the halal meats so they prefer to put halal meat and in some
00:21:11.360 restaurants you know they don't put is halal meat they don't say so you you you you hit halal meat but
00:21:16.560 you don't know and uh the we have to know the halal meat also is a business because they get the money
00:21:23.040 from the halal meat to to to build some new mosques etc so yeah the the situation now is really
00:21:30.080 difficult in france because also they are french people this this type of people are french so you
00:21:35.200 cannot uh you know uh uh take them to say you have to turn back in your country because they are french 0.97
00:21:40.800 people that's in the hurts why would any french government do this to their country i mean you know
00:21:48.800 it's such a such a celebrated country with so much history and and such an important country
00:21:54.400 in the world and one that you would you would think that leaders in the over the past 20 30 years would
00:22:00.320 want to preserve why why would any government do this to france i just don't understand why they
00:22:05.520 would allow this to happen because they are not patriots it's really simple you know they have leftist
00:22:11.440 mind uh so they think is uh the the the the duty of france to open the gate and to say to the world
00:22:19.520 welcome in france we can take the whole poverty of the world uh we can take all africa in in france
00:22:25.680 because we are happy you know also they say uh the french uh people doesn't make enough baby so we have
00:22:33.680 to take immigration to work in the restaurant to work to cleaning etc so they also see this type of
00:22:39.920 population like a slave because they need oh we have we need them to to wash my my car to wash my 0.98
00:22:46.240 my my home etc so uh i think we have to to put you know uh a baby uh uh encouragements to to say so
00:22:56.800 the french population have to make more babies and we can help the family to to do this this is a good 1.00
00:23:02.560 option and also when we see the situation in japan in japan what they do if the family don't do
00:23:10.160 children uh so they take some robo you know the robo do the job because you have to protect your
00:23:16.320 identity uh if you come in france for vacation is because you you want to to meet and to know the
00:23:22.320 french true population but if you have uh you know all african uh country in france so it don't make
00:23:30.480 any difference about the identity so i'm not agree with that and also you have a lot of people say
00:23:35.520 oh it's a duty of friends to to to take people from everywhere but it's not it's not the truth
00:23:41.600 it's not the truth you know when i travel to africa is to make af african people you know so of course
00:23:47.600 they have some problems and if we can help them we can we can fix it but we have first to think about
00:23:54.000 the french population absolutely and the last question i have for you is is what will uh marine
00:24:00.560 le pen if she becomes president in the future after jordan bardella and the national rally dominate in
00:24:07.440 the uh in the parliamentary elections what would the net what would a national rally government do with
00:24:12.480 immigration are they going to shut down the borders to uh these these african countries and control the 0.99
00:24:18.560 the the spread of of basically a very anti-french culture well i think it's really really simple
00:24:26.240 you know you have just to put down the uh financially help because if they cannot get money they will not
00:24:34.640 come it's really simple also you can close the border you know to control who comes or don't do not
00:24:41.520 come and in france you know we have some people they have the obligation to leave the territory and the
00:24:47.760 french governments take only three percent of this population to get back in the country because
00:24:54.400 for example we have if we have many algerian people they have to go back to algeri the french as a uh 0.97
00:25:01.360 algerian uh government doesn't accept this they say no no we don't we don't know them we don't want
00:25:08.160 them but they are algerian so you have to be also strong if if they say that you said okay so if you
00:25:15.280 don't want to take your population backs we stop to help you to build maybe this subway or this uh
00:25:23.040 sport etc so we have to be strong with it with a uh other country and uh so marine le pen yes will fix
00:25:30.960 the immigration problem she will stop the finland surgery help she will close the border she will take 0.90
00:25:37.840 uh illegal immigrants to take back in the country and also if you wants to come in france from some 0.71
00:25:44.720 war reason you have to ask the authorization in the consulate or in the french assembly but in your
00:25:50.960 country you don't have to come and after to help for uh don't ask to for help you have to to to to
00:25:57.840 ask for help in your country directly and and so before i let you go talk to us about the work you're
00:26:03.760 doing with patriot network uh if canadians want to learn more about your organization and how they can
00:26:09.680 interact with them uh what what exactly is patriot network and how can they interact yeah so patriot
00:26:15.680 network is a new ong political ong so we are already in 40 countries uh so we are building a worldwide uh
00:26:24.160 patriot connection like this a political party can know them uh easily uh so we also organize some
00:26:31.680 events the next event will be the 22 november in salvador because we uh really uh are happy about the
00:26:39.600 bukele works you know he fixed the drug traffic he fixed everything and the salvador is now growing up
00:26:46.640 so uh we do events and also we are working uh to make a new media you know to put uh some uh political
00:26:54.480 uh news the truth of political news with a whole coordinator so we are working on and we will do
00:27:02.480 a lot of events also in canadian uh in canada uh next year amazing enzo alias thank you so much for
00:27:09.360 coming on thank you for the invitation and see you soon thank you harrison