Juno News - September 10, 2024


What is going on in Brazil？


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17 minutes

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152.45605

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2,694

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1

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 last week the brazilian government decided just to outright ban x in the country to strip
00:00:07.440 brazilians of their rights to communicate on one of the most popular social media platforms now
00:00:12.800 this is all because a brazilian supreme court judge alexandra de marais has some sort of
00:00:18.720 vendetta against elon musk and against free speech it appears but even worse brazil seems to be
00:00:24.960 headed down the dark path towards authoritarianism under president lula and the supreme court judge
00:00:31.680 alexandra de marais well to help us break down what's going on in brazil we are joined
00:00:36.800 by mariano perez argentinian political journalist and the creator of breakpoint news channel mariano
00:00:44.000 thank you for joining us thank you harrison it's a pleasure to be with you in your program
00:00:48.240 so a lot of canadians have been following the news in brazil seeing the country decide to ban
00:00:55.840 x and the implications of that but there's more to the story i believe and for those who aren't as
00:01:01.600 familiar with the story can you summarize for our audience what is going on in brazil right now
00:01:08.320 well in brazil what is happening is uh a dictatorship because uh alexandra demoraes danisa
00:01:14.640 judge from the supreme court he uses his power to make politics he wants to um get bolsonaro in jail
00:01:22.400 and he attacks all the free speech in the social networks not only on x x is the the biggest example
00:01:28.560 of that but i was in brazil two months ago in the cpaq i talked with all of influencers in brazil and they
00:01:36.640 said me that that happens in all the social networks but the the difference in this situation is
00:01:42.640 that elon musk said i don't want to ban people because you don't like what they post and what
00:01:48.160 happens is that alexandra demoraes attacks um the people that um support bolsonaro or that don't like
00:01:57.440 his run as a supreme court judge and they uh demand them or the social medias to get banned
00:02:05.920 and so uh he said i don't know youtube i don't know i don't like what harrison is doing in youtube
00:02:12.320 he demands youtube and youtube said well i banned him or i have a problem with the supreme court well
00:02:19.200 they banned the influencers what happened now is that elon musk uh doesn't uh didn't want to
00:02:25.920 ban the influencer that alexandra mores wants to ban and we have a the old eggs banned in brazil
00:02:34.560 they have a millions and millions and millions of people that doesn't talk about talk about politics
00:02:40.640 and they get banned too because they don't want the people to talk about politics and criticize them
00:02:48.560 so who is this supreme court judge alexandra demoraes i mean why does he have so much power
00:02:55.840 in brazil he's not the president it doesn't seem like he was elected by anybody so who is this guy and
00:03:02.320 why does he have so much power well he as i said he's running as a dictator he is the real power on
00:03:09.840 brazil he manages the supreme court the luna the monday in brazil they want to start an impeachment
00:03:18.160 on alexandra demoraes we'll see how it goes but he is the real power of brazil he manages lula
00:03:25.760 all the people in brazil that i talk tell me that and he is the real power in brazil he is who controls
00:03:33.040 everything he uses his power to make politics to make decisions about politics and he wants to get
00:03:39.200 in jail bolsonaro get in jail a lot of people in the opposition and he's running like a dictator in
00:03:45.840 brazil because the supreme court has a lot of power and is really hard to control them
00:03:51.360 wow and uh how have brazilians reacted to this significant and sudden change in their country
00:04:01.360 losing access to x is crazy so how have brazilians reacted well today right now is a big and massive
00:04:10.960 mobilization of people in sao paulo there is bolsonaro there is the governors there is
00:04:15.760 millions of people in the street because um they know what is this this not only um ban uh social
00:04:24.000 network this is not only ban x they want to control brazil and they want to turn brazil into venezuela
00:04:29.440 into cuba that's the way that's how he starts right is it's uh what we are seeing now in venezuela
00:04:37.680 is the same thing they want to ban everything that is not controlled by them and that's how the
00:04:44.240 dictatorships run and the people in brazil knows that this is only the beginning so if if them uh don't
00:04:53.920 stop them right now it could be too late so it sounds like lula the brazilian president who we know
00:05:02.720 is a close friend and ally with iran and china it sounds like lula is trying to bring that kind of
00:05:10.880 politics that authoritarianism into brazil uh is that is that what's happening yes that was happening
00:05:18.400 and um this uh situation with alexander du mora is doing this because he is the real power and he
00:05:26.160 controls a lot of things that lula did and uh we have to know that lula's friends are maduro are cuba are
00:05:34.160 iran um in argentina the kirchnerism and all these people love these left wings people that the only
00:05:42.560 thing that they want is the total control of the people and the state and all the decisions that we
00:05:48.480 have so that's what they want to do in brazil and it's a a really big country these 200 million people
00:05:57.520 this is really a a situation really a complicated and what will happen to south american politics
00:06:07.200 if brazil becomes the next venezuela if brazil goes the way of venezuela and cuba i'm sure that's going
00:06:13.760 to significantly change the continent they have a lot of influence of course they are the biggest country
00:06:20.160 in the region uh but um i i think i am lucky because i am in argentina we were really close to get on
00:06:28.000 that because last year um the other candidate the sergio massa the left-wing candidate that lost with
00:06:33.920 javier mille they want to do this he has a law uh preparing that uh control the social network speech
00:06:42.080 i get a banned in youtube last uh presidential debate it was sergio massa versus javier mille and me
00:06:49.600 and and another uh right-wing uh influencers we were streaming the debate and we were banned by the
00:06:58.160 electoral committee it was a really um a terrifying situation and we were so close to get like brazil but
00:07:08.400 i i think i we are in argentina really really lucky about having javier mille and it's it's fun that the
00:07:16.240 traditional media they are crying a lot with javier mille because he um cut off all the money all the
00:07:24.560 money from the government to the social to the traditional media and they are crying about that
00:07:29.680 and they say that that is a cutting free speech but they don't say nothing about brazil about lula because
00:07:37.280 they like it because they are all woke in the traditional media because they like that kind of
00:07:43.600 people uh but they cry a lot because javier mille um gives a retweet or like to me or other people in
00:07:51.360 the in the social networks that uh criticizing the traditional media there is a really fun situation
00:07:58.320 in argentina because um it had no sense so explain to our audience then relations between argentina and
00:08:08.720 brazil between javier mille and lula i imagine that they're not very good well the relation they are
00:08:17.360 two different things the relation between millen lula and brazil and argentina brazil and argentina
00:08:22.640 needs to have a good relationship in diplomatics but that's not the way that we have mille or lula there
00:08:31.280 is the diplomatics and there is mille and lula mille says that lula is a criminal he's a communist he's
00:08:37.840 a disaster to brazil he went to brazil two months ago when i go when i went to the cipac and he were
00:08:49.680 to see bolsonaro no lula he wore that to criticize lula to say that he's a thief that this is a communist
00:08:57.680 and this is a not good relationship between them but the the diplomatics in between brazil and argentina
00:09:06.880 have to to stay calm uh whatever is uh the president because there is a two
00:09:14.560 neighbor countries and we have a lot of commerce between argentina and marcil so there is the the
00:09:21.200 two situations but uh your interest is in between billet and lula and it's not a good relationship
00:09:30.000 right i i i can imagine now how are other south american countries reacting to what is going on
00:09:37.280 in brazil other than argentina how are other countries reacting in in the region reacting to brazil
00:09:43.440 is there are they coming together or or are certain countries moving further away from brazil
00:09:48.720 as the country becomes more authoritarian well it depends uh the country i don't know colombia with
00:09:54.720 petro is a friend of lula venezuela with maduro is a friend of lula there is a lot of countries in
00:10:00.640 the region that they are in with a socialist or communist presidents so they of course support lula
00:10:09.120 and want to do that in in their countries maduro wants to ban x in venezuela he wants to ban whatsapp
00:10:15.280 he wants to ban a lot of social networks because um in venezuela or in that countries the traditional
00:10:23.040 media does not inform the people they there were a massive mobilizations in venezuela and the tv in
00:10:31.520 venezuela was showing shows or movies or another things they don't cover that the only people that
00:10:39.040 um covered that situations were in the social networks so they want to ban that because it's um his
00:10:47.920 chance to to control what he's uh what he's saying in in in all the states and we we read the news
00:10:58.560 recently that javier mille called on the international criminal court to arrest maduro it would would
00:11:05.600 something like this would mille say something like this about morais potentially in brazil
00:11:13.360 um i don't know what's going to do mille with alexander du morais situation because
00:11:19.200 he doesn't like to interfere in another country's situation because in argentina we have a lot of
00:11:24.480 problems i think with maduro is it was different because he stole elections he killed people he
00:11:31.440 prison people but i think that in the future if brazil turns on that of course they are going to
00:11:39.840 to take a cards in in this situation but i don't know what's going to happen in the future but i think
00:11:46.800 that the international organizations have to do some something with maduro because they only
00:11:54.800 uh give a press releases and they they do nothing they really has done nothing with maduro and all
00:12:04.080 the dictatorship in venezuela and i hope they they do something so besides have uh i believe it's
00:12:11.840 bolsonaro besides bolsonaro who are the political players in brazil who are trying to oppose what's going
00:12:19.760 on who could be the next person in charge to defeat lula would it be bolsonaro or is it somebody else
00:12:25.440 who's coming up well um we have to um look what happens with bolsonaro in the future there i they
00:12:33.200 want to get him in shale they want to not let him compete in the election so um it appears in the scene
00:12:42.240 all the governors in brazil the states in brazil are i they are huge the sao paulo governor um
00:12:49.600 it's a one of the people that um appears that one of the candidates that could run if bolsonaro gets
00:12:57.360 in jail or um or he don't let him compete but uh bolsonaro is the face of the opposition in brazil he is the
00:13:05.920 leader and if nothing strange happens he is going to be running against lula or against whoever's the
00:13:14.960 candidate in brazil with marais being so powerful and unelected is there even do people think that
00:13:23.920 there is hope for brazil at this point is there still hope for brazil to get rid of this system and
00:13:30.560 bring back a conservative or freedom oriented government when i travel to brazil i talk about
00:13:38.080 that i i ask them uh how this situation could control and they say we don't know we hope bolsonaro
00:13:45.680 wins but if he wins he can do nothing against the supreme court they are different powers so um but
00:13:55.760 they if they have the the enough people in the congress they can impeach him is the only way that
00:14:02.400 i see that he can stop him but there is no other way than than an impeachment impeachment to alexander
00:14:10.240 de moraiz but if this control of all what is happening in brazil of all the people that present in
00:14:16.400 the elections in brazil um still going on uh with alexander de moraiz i don't know they are running
00:14:24.720 against time in brazil so i hope these next elections uh they got a lot of votes a lot of
00:14:31.920 people in the congress so they can stop him before they get laid and how big of a role does the united
00:14:39.520 states play in what's going on could the united states refuse you know under a donald trump administration
00:14:46.640 could the united states refuse to do business with brazil or try to isolate brazil in response
00:14:53.440 and would brazil react if the united states makes a move on them in an economic way
00:15:00.240 well alexander has a lot of uh money a lot of properties a lot of things in the united states
00:15:07.520 so if donald trump wins and he wants to make a something about this situation he can press him
00:15:15.600 with all that things that he has in in united states uh but uh bolsonaro has a good a great
00:15:22.880 relationship with donald trump so i think that they can talk about that and generally speaking how i'm
00:15:32.880 curious what the relations are with canada and argentina does does mile look at canada as a friend justin
00:15:41.120 trudeau as a friend or what does he what does he think about about canada as a as a as a trading
00:15:47.200 partner and as a player generally the relation of melee with canada is a good relation because he
00:15:53.760 wants to got a have a good relation with all the uh occident countries uh whoever is the president i
00:16:00.240 don't like justin trudeau i think that melee doesn't like much but uh he wants to put um over the relation
00:16:07.840 with the countries uh whoever is the president so um that's the his relationship with the united
00:16:14.320 states too he likes more trump than biden but he has to have a good relation with biden uh because
00:16:21.200 he's the president of the united states he he wants to have united states he wants to have israel he wants
00:16:27.360 to have of course canada as allies because they are um the occident countries right so he if he don't
00:16:36.640 like justin trudeau well he likes canada right and and i like canada and i hope to to go to canada
00:16:45.040 someday and and now there well if you do find yourself in canada mariano reach out to me i'll
00:16:51.280 uh i'll show you around toronto we can have some uh some fun in toronto man thank you for joining us
00:16:56.320 and where can canadians find your work well thank you thank you and well if you come to argentina we're
00:17:03.920 gonna eat some asado or some empanadas or some a lot of things a lot of food in argentina so you
00:17:10.400 are welcome here too and can i'll leave a link in the description of this video for breakpoint
00:17:16.400 on youtube and on social media it's in spanish but if they want to see your work they can do so
00:17:22.480 by going to the link in the description mariano thank you again for joining us thank you thank you for
00:17:27.760 for the opportunity
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