Juno News - November 13, 2025WOKE MOB HAS MELTDOWN over Frances Widdowson at Thompson Rivers University
Episode Stats
Words per Minute
143.83948
Summary
In this episode, True North hosts a free speech event at Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops, B.C. about the discovery of the remains of 215 children buried at the site of a former Indian residential school.
Transcript
00:00:02.680
$100 million was given to the band for digging, and no digging was done, so the money needs
00:00:17.320
Don't talk about respect, you fucking white man.
00:00:29.760
We are at Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops, British Columbia.
00:00:33.120
I've been having some difficulty trying to figure out what I'm supposed to call this
00:00:37.160
I don't know if it's a protest, or a speaking engagement, or an attempt at civil discourse.
00:00:42.140
There's a whole bunch of different people here, mostly students.
00:00:48.020
The three main speakers, if that's what you want to call them, would be Dallas Brody, she's
00:00:54.100
Jim McMurtry, he was a teacher who was fired for voicing his opinions on residential schools
00:00:57.900
and indigenous issues in British Columbia, as well as Frances Whitteson, a former Mount
00:01:01.780
Royal University professor who also lost her job for voicing her opinions on indigenous
00:01:12.020
I'd say that most of the dialogue has been fairly civil.
00:01:14.840
There was some drumming and some foot stomping that was a little obnoxious, but other than
00:01:18.420
that, it's been, I would say, fairly productive and a great event.
00:01:22.300
This is what university campuses should be for.
00:01:24.920
For civil dialogue, and if you can't have them here, then I don't know if you can have
00:01:30.420
So, as per our policy, we are not, oh hello everyone, we are respectfully saying that this violates
00:01:37.420
the TRU policy under the temporary use of space, and that's as such that you respectfully
00:01:58.300
We are respectfully saying that this violates the TRU policy under the temporary use of space,
00:02:03.300
and that's as such that you respectfully leave the premises.
00:02:06.300
you know she's here she's good here she's good here she's good here right because two things we
00:02:21.420
have a disruptive business right here this is a place of learning the students are busy doing
00:02:26.140
their thing i'm also can't guarantee your personal thank you therefore i would like to have you
00:02:31.340
over here you know i i'm going to stay here i'm not going into your buildings but i'm going to stay
00:02:37.340
discuss people with people's this this clean uh what remains uh remains of 215 children which
00:02:45.420
your chancellor dd de rose and your cultural advisor ted godderson both said in september 2024
00:02:53.740
that there that there are children buried at the kamloops uh in the camp at the campus in your
00:02:58.300
residential school and that is full no based on what they start not showing us who are you
00:03:03.900
associated with charlie kirk if you say something back it up who are you to say that it's untrue
00:03:09.980
information i would love that everyone again we're in the middle of a pathway here so why don't we just
00:03:15.500
go okay and it's not your place to ask somebody to dig up remains yes it is there is for the 12
00:03:21.580
million dollars has been paid for it no it isn't yes it is the reserve is not your taxpayer dollars
00:03:28.700
no 12 to 1 million dollars was given to the band for digging okay no digging was done so the money
00:03:34.700
needs to be refunded these are the best people here right here these two um we're not blocking the space
00:03:45.260
people can go into the buildings they can walk around they can do whatever they want so we're
00:03:51.020
taxpayers we're taxpayers we're talking about problems here and we're going to have this
00:03:55.180
conversation well then we have the right to cover this is what the university
00:04:01.740
let's talk about the evidence what evidence is there for the remains of 215 children being found
00:04:08.060
at the california residential school what do you think happens when you shove a bunch of kids in a
00:04:12.780
building and let tuberculosis well that's not it's not up to people who are uh just asking for
00:04:27.980
evidence to have to provide it you're making the claim are you do you believe that there
00:04:31.740
remains the 215 children have been found yeah okay so uh what evidence what evidence do you have for
00:04:37.100
this is what it was it was 215 child remains in a mass unmarked grave okay so don't lie they did not
00:04:53.420
say four and a half years ago anomalies they said 215 child remains were found in a mass unmarked grave
00:05:01.100
in camelos this university continues to perpetuate that lie yeah they didn't say they were what is
00:05:07.900
the lie that there were no bodies found there was no murder there was no genocide
00:05:23.660
yeah i have a phd in the subject by the way but don't let that bother you
00:05:28.300
subject when it doesn't serve your narrative let's just let's just continue on with the
00:05:33.740
it's talking out of turn when it's not your narrative
00:05:38.860
do you know that sarah bohley on july 15th said it was not 215 anomalies it was 200 anomalies
00:05:46.780
the genocide thing and i would like to talk more about that i think it's a bit redundant children died and
00:05:52.940
children are abused is that not genocide to you cultural genocide children are still abused so i
00:06:00.380
might really understand children are forcibly taken from their home they were not forcibly taken parents
00:06:07.020
signed application forms the only kids that were taken were kids who didn't have the necessities of life
00:06:33.100
hi i'm catholic so you can't tell me that i don't understand the impact of residential school
00:06:39.980
because it was part of the catholic church that did it what are you does it make you feel better
00:06:47.820
to show up and say that children weren't killed okay catholics at these schools just was a catholic
00:06:55.660
school you're right the sisters are sitting in and the oblate brothers and priests and they were
00:07:02.380
people who committed their lives to helping raise indigenous people give them english give them the skills
00:07:09.740
they're doing like they're saying they're from england because they were criminals
00:07:17.580
but anyhow you know what so once again before you leave here walk away from here ask yourself do you
00:07:24.060
have the courage to come up to me right now and say i have the name i have the name of a child who was
00:07:30.540
murdered at a residential school i have a picture of a body why would you know
00:07:38.380
because they were born because they were born there since they were never ready now
00:08:06.060
we don't study this because this is not a product of our university this is not a product of fact this
00:08:11.340
is not a product of indigenous knowledges that we engage here in our institutions
00:08:19.180
let's assume we're having a debate you've just made this assertion that there's no proof for our
00:08:23.980
plans that there's no bodies in that what's your passion
00:08:28.140
that they're that they haven't been like they're not digging graves people have watched their siblings
00:08:36.060
their friends their family be buried have been abused have been killed
00:09:10.580
This is a university. This is a place of higher learning.
00:09:23.580
I'm 70 years old. I know a hell of a lot more than you do.
00:09:29.580
I'll stand there yelling at someone when you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
00:10:05.580
But they haven't found any evidence of any murdered child in any residential school.
00:10:15.580
You can't accuse people of murder without having evidence!
00:10:27.580
Fucking putting kids, taking kids away from their families,
00:10:31.580
That's fucking enough and they need to be punished for that!
00:10:36.580
Well I don't know, your obsession with bodies is fucking beyond me, man!
00:10:49.580
You want to talk about respect, you fucking white man?
00:11:08.580
They were still taking the rips from their families!
00:11:22.580
You could have told me I'm a rebel because I wouldn't have spoken to you!
00:11:24.580
Where are your andere Sub-Zencers in our facilities?
00:11:44.580
You have the football bar demonstration that I want to see you?