Juno News - November 13, 2025


WOKE MOB HAS MELTDOWN over Frances Widdowson at Thompson Rivers University

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Width Francis Whittowson Dallas Brody Jim McMurtry Sarah Bollier Children Donald Alex
Carney to cave to Liberal left flank？ Free speech event disrupted by Indigenous-aligned activists

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12 minutes

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1,785

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9

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Summary

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In this episode, True North hosts a free speech event at Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops, B.C. about the discovery of the remains of 215 children buried at the site of a former Indian residential school.

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00:00:00.000 That's what you need to run out of children. 1.00
00:00:02.680 $100 million was given to the band for digging, and no digging was done, so the money needs
00:00:10.180 to be refunded with it. 0.99
00:00:12.180 Children's bodies is fucking behind me, man. 0.99
00:00:15.320 Good. 1.00
00:00:16.320 Fuck you, you don't deserve it. 1.00
00:00:17.320 Don't talk about respect, you fucking white man. 1.00
00:00:19.940 You're old fucking white man. 1.00
00:00:21.720 That's all you are, bro. 1.00
00:00:24.720 This is indigenous land, first and foremost.
00:00:28.760 This is True North here.
00:00:29.760 We are at Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops, British Columbia.
00:00:33.120 I've been having some difficulty trying to figure out what I'm supposed to call this
00:00:36.160 thing.
00:00:37.160 I don't know if it's a protest, or a speaking engagement, or an attempt at civil discourse.
00:00:42.140 There's a whole bunch of different people here, mostly students.
00:00:45.420 It's been pretty mellow for the most part.
00:00:48.020 The three main speakers, if that's what you want to call them, would be Dallas Brody, she's 1.00
00:00:52.200 the leader of the 1BC party.
00:00:54.100 Jim McMurtry, he was a teacher who was fired for voicing his opinions on residential schools
00:00:57.900 and indigenous issues in British Columbia, as well as Frances Whitteson, a former Mount
00:01:01.780 Royal University professor who also lost her job for voicing her opinions on indigenous
00:01:07.020 issues.
00:01:08.020 I guess you could call it a free speech event.
00:01:10.400 It's been mostly that.
00:01:12.020 I'd say that most of the dialogue has been fairly civil.
00:01:14.840 There was some drumming and some foot stomping that was a little obnoxious, but other than
00:01:18.420 that, it's been, I would say, fairly productive and a great event.
00:01:22.300 This is what university campuses should be for.
00:01:24.920 For civil dialogue, and if you can't have them here, then I don't know if you can have
00:01:27.760 them anywhere.
00:01:28.760 Again, Alex with True North, signing off.
00:01:30.420 So, as per our policy, we are not, oh hello everyone, we are respectfully saying that this violates
00:01:37.420 the TRU policy under the temporary use of space, and that's as such that you respectfully
00:01:44.300 leave the premises.
00:01:45.300 That is not true.
00:01:46.300 What is your application with Dr. Width?
00:01:47.300 What is your application with Dr. Width?
00:01:48.300 What is your application?
00:01:49.300 What is your application with Dr. Width?
00:01:50.300 She's good here.
00:01:51.300 She's good here.
00:01:52.300 We're good here.
00:01:53.300 This is the place to do it, really.
00:01:54.300 There's no fault in here.
00:01:55.300 Let's have it.
00:01:56.300 So, as per our policy, we are not…
00:01:57.300 Oh hello everyone.
00:01:58.300 We are respectfully saying that this violates the TRU policy under the temporary use of space,
00:02:03.300 and that's as such that you respectfully leave the premises.
00:02:06.300 you know she's here she's good here she's good here she's good here right because two things we
00:02:21.420 have a disruptive business right here this is a place of learning the students are busy doing
00:02:26.140 their thing i'm also can't guarantee your personal thank you therefore i would like to have you
00:02:31.340 over here you know i i'm going to stay here i'm not going into your buildings but i'm going to stay
00:02:37.340 discuss people with people's this this clean uh what remains uh remains of 215 children which
00:02:45.420 your chancellor dd de rose and your cultural advisor ted godderson both said in september 2024
00:02:53.740 that there that there are children buried at the kamloops uh in the camp at the campus in your
00:02:58.300 residential school and that is full no based on what they start not showing us who are you
00:03:03.900 associated with charlie kirk if you say something back it up who are you to say that it's untrue
00:03:09.980 information i would love that everyone again we're in the middle of a pathway here so why don't we just
00:03:15.500 go okay and it's not your place to ask somebody to dig up remains yes it is there is for the 12
00:03:21.580 million dollars has been paid for it no it isn't yes it is the reserve is not your taxpayer dollars
00:03:28.700 no 12 to 1 million dollars was given to the band for digging okay no digging was done so the money
00:03:34.700 needs to be refunded these are the best people here right here these two um we're not blocking the space
00:03:45.260 people can go into the buildings they can walk around they can do whatever they want so we're
00:03:51.020 taxpayers we're taxpayers we're talking about problems here and we're going to have this
00:03:55.180 conversation well then we have the right to cover this is what the university
00:04:01.740 let's talk about the evidence what evidence is there for the remains of 215 children being found
00:04:08.060 at the california residential school what do you think happens when you shove a bunch of kids in a
00:04:12.780 building and let tuberculosis well that's not it's not up to people who are uh just asking for
00:04:27.980 evidence to have to provide it you're making the claim are you do you believe that there
00:04:31.740 remains the 215 children have been found yeah okay so uh what evidence what evidence do you have for
00:04:37.100 this is what it was it was 215 child remains in a mass unmarked grave okay so don't lie they did not
00:04:53.420 say four and a half years ago anomalies they said 215 child remains were found in a mass unmarked grave
00:05:01.100 in camelos this university continues to perpetuate that lie yeah they didn't say they were what is
00:05:07.900 the lie that there were no bodies found there was no murder there was no genocide
00:05:23.660 yeah i have a phd in the subject by the way but don't let that bother you
00:05:28.300 subject when it doesn't serve your narrative let's just let's just continue on with the
00:05:33.740 it's talking out of turn when it's not your narrative
00:05:38.860 do you know that sarah bohley on july 15th said it was not 215 anomalies it was 200 anomalies
00:05:46.780 the genocide thing and i would like to talk more about that i think it's a bit redundant children died and
00:05:52.940 children are abused is that not genocide to you cultural genocide children are still abused so i
00:06:00.380 might really understand children are forcibly taken from their home they were not forcibly taken parents
00:06:07.020 signed application forms the only kids that were taken were kids who didn't have the necessities of life
00:06:12.460 or orphans
00:06:33.100 hi i'm catholic so you can't tell me that i don't understand the impact of residential school
00:06:39.980 because it was part of the catholic church that did it what are you does it make you feel better
00:06:47.820 to show up and say that children weren't killed okay catholics at these schools just was a catholic 0.94
00:06:55.660 school you're right the sisters are sitting in and the oblate brothers and priests and they were
00:07:02.380 people who committed their lives to helping raise indigenous people give them english give them the skills
00:07:09.740 they're doing like they're saying they're from england because they were criminals
00:07:17.580 but anyhow you know what so once again before you leave here walk away from here ask yourself do you
00:07:24.060 have the courage to come up to me right now and say i have the name i have the name of a child who was
00:07:30.540 murdered at a residential school i have a picture of a body why would you know
00:07:38.380 because they were born because they were born there since they were never ready now
00:07:48.220 get off our campus
00:07:52.220 go home
00:08:06.060 we don't study this because this is not a product of our university this is not a product of fact this
00:08:11.340 is not a product of indigenous knowledges that we engage here in our institutions
00:08:19.180 let's assume we're having a debate you've just made this assertion that there's no proof for our
00:08:23.980 plans that there's no bodies in that what's your passion
00:08:28.140 that they're that they haven't been like they're not digging graves people have watched their siblings
00:08:36.060 their friends their family be buried have been abused have been killed
00:08:44.060 so
00:08:56.540 so
00:09:04.540 how do you guys 0.99
00:09:05.580 You're fucking losing to Donald. 0.99
00:09:07.580 See? You have no business being here. 1.00
00:09:10.580 This is a university. This is a place of higher learning.
00:09:15.580 Where people care about one another.
00:09:17.580 Okay? So what about you?
00:09:19.580 Respect, young man. 0.99
00:09:21.580 Get the fuck up! 0.99
00:09:23.580 I'm 70 years old. I know a hell of a lot more than you do. 1.00
00:09:29.580 I'll stand there yelling at someone when you don't know what the hell you're talking about. 0.99
00:09:33.580 You don't know what you're talking about! 1.00
00:09:35.580 You don't know what you're talking about!
00:09:37.580 No, you don't! 1.00
00:09:39.580 What are you fucking pushing people for? 1.00
00:09:41.580 That's my son. 1.00
00:09:42.580 Yes, I'll get your son.
00:09:43.580 Thank you, thank you.
00:09:44.580 You do not! You know it!
00:09:46.580 You have no clue!
00:09:47.580 I was raised here!
00:09:49.580 You can't tell me that's true!
00:09:51.580 Did you grow up in the residential school?
00:09:53.580 I grew up, I went to school with natives!
00:09:55.580 Oh wow, so did I!
00:09:57.580 And they weren't here!
00:09:59.580 Why can't you just listen to me?
00:10:01.580 Stop yelling!
00:10:03.580 I'm listening! Go for it!
00:10:05.580 But they haven't found any evidence of any murdered child in any residential school.
00:10:10.580 What is it?
00:10:11.580 But where's the evidence then?
00:10:13.580 Why do you need, like, what do you do?
00:10:15.580 You can't accuse people of murder without having evidence!
00:10:19.580 That's called, that's an awful thing to do!
00:10:21.580 Yeah, it was an awful thing they did!
00:10:23.580 You defaming, you defaming these teachers! 1.00
00:10:27.580 Fucking putting kids, taking kids away from their families, 1.00
00:10:29.580 putting them in a school is bad enough! 1.00
00:10:31.580 That's fucking enough and they need to be punished for that! 1.00
00:10:33.580 Can I just find you that? 1.00
00:10:34.580 Can I just find you that?
00:10:35.580 The school is right here! 0.99
00:10:36.580 Well I don't know, your obsession with bodies is fucking beyond me, man! 0.98
00:10:39.580 I'm sorry, I lost my job of it! 0.99
00:10:41.580 Good! 1.00
00:10:42.580 Fuck you, you don't deserve a job! 1.00
00:10:43.580 Yeah, cause you got a lot of respect, man! 1.00
00:10:45.580 Yeah, the fuck? 0.99
00:10:46.580 You got a lot of respect, huh? 1.00
00:10:47.580 You got a lot of respect?
00:10:48.580 You got a lot of respect? 1.00
00:10:49.580 You want to talk about respect, you fucking white man? 1.00
00:10:51.580 You're old fucking white man! 1.00
00:10:53.580 That's all you are, bro! 1.00
00:10:55.580 This is indigenous land, first and foremost!
00:10:59.580 Yeah, we can tell y'all!
00:11:01.580 I know you have!
00:11:02.580 I can tell by your views, bro!
00:11:04.580 I can tell by your views!
00:11:06.580 Canada is indigenous land! 0.97
00:11:08.580 They were still taking the rips from their families!
00:11:17.580 Stop! 1.00
00:11:18.580 No!
00:11:19.580 No!
00:11:20.580 No, no!
00:11:21.580 You don't do me!
00:11:22.580 You could have told me I'm a rebel because I wouldn't have spoken to you!
00:11:24.580 Where are your andere Sub-Zencers in our facilities? 1.00
00:11:27.580 Why, why did they call me?!
00:11:33.580 Where isIntelion?
00:11:37.580 How about Atlanta?
00:11:39.580 How about Atlanta?
00:11:44.580 You have the football bar demonstration that I want to see you?
00:11:48.580 Get out! 1.00
00:11:50.580 Get the fuck out! 1.00
00:11:52.580 No! Stop with your fairytales! 1.00
00:11:56.580 Shut up! Shut up! 1.00
00:11:59.580 Shut up! 1.00
00:12:22.580 Shut up! 1.00