JustPearlyThings - 2 Trad Wives Took an L and Can't Handle It

00:00:00.000 Do we need men?

00:00:02.500 Most answered very quickly, no.

00:00:05.220 Because men are useless.

00:00:08.520 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.

00:00:10.960 Most young men are single.

00:00:12.680 Most young women are not.

00:00:14.000 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic

00:00:17.040 in America over the last 40 years.

00:00:18.720 It's a different world now.

00:00:19.880 We don't need men the way that they used to.

00:00:21.760 Nobody needs men.

00:00:23.040 The future is female.

00:00:26.080 Men and women are drifting further apart,

00:00:29.680 and society is crumbling because of it.

00:00:33.040 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.

00:00:35.920 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.

00:00:38.560 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far

00:00:41.520 the other way.

00:00:42.240 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants

00:00:45.040 and actually become men.

00:00:46.200 Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.

00:00:48.840 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.

00:00:51.840 Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position

00:00:54.000 that it's bad for men to get married.

00:00:56.840 Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.

00:01:00.440 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.

00:01:04.080 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.

00:01:06.880 Because if me and you were in a business contract,

00:01:09.120 you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.

00:01:12.080 Gee, what could go wrong there?

00:01:14.200 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.

00:01:17.800 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.

00:01:20.720 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.

00:01:23.400 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity,

00:01:27.240 not courts of law.

00:01:28.400 Because in family court, you don't need evidence

00:01:30.360 to accuse someone of abuse.

00:01:31.600 You need no evidence.

00:01:32.720 When you guys say get married young,

00:01:34.280 a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for,

00:01:36.520 and you're not going to be there

00:01:37.680 when their entire life falls apart.

00:01:39.840 I interviewed them on the other side.

00:01:42.360 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.

00:01:44.840 How much did you spend trying to get him back?

00:01:46.840 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.

00:01:49.160 Before you know it, you're homeless.

00:01:50.600 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.

00:01:52.520 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.

00:01:54.920 Wives are taught to leave their husbands,

00:01:56.760 and then daughters grow up without their fathers.

00:01:59.160 Family is the foundation of society.

00:02:00.840 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.

00:02:03.960 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole

00:02:06.520 of happiness, endless happiness.

00:02:08.200 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.

00:02:10.280 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.

00:02:12.040 We tell them to put off family into marriage.

00:02:13.880 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.

00:02:16.520 You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.

00:02:20.920 Oh, freeze your eggs.

00:02:21.720 Have an abortion.

00:02:22.760 What? You're evil.

00:02:23.960 I don't think there's anything else in life

00:02:25.320 that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.

00:02:27.720 Right.

00:02:28.120 Like, if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong

00:02:30.600 and be pessimistic, naturally, the outcome is going to be

00:02:33.320 that it's going to fail anyway.

00:02:34.600 It's self-sabotage.

00:02:35.560 That's the thing.

00:02:36.120 Like, women are so willing to leave marriages

00:02:38.280 because they're not happy.

00:02:39.400 This is not about happiness.

00:02:41.160 The most important thing is the children.

00:02:43.480 And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me.

00:02:47.160 My feelings leave when I feel like it

00:02:49.320 instead of doing what's best for the kids.

00:02:52.440 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege,

00:02:54.840 where's my male privilege?

00:02:55.800 They think, well, men have all the rights.

00:02:57.400 They have all the power.

00:02:58.440 Privileged patriarchal system that we have.

00:03:01.000 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?

00:03:03.640 I have no friends, no white, and no social life.

00:03:06.920 Men are alone in this situation.

00:03:08.760 Men are homeless.

00:03:09.640 Men are thinking about eating guns.

00:03:11.400 I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide

00:03:14.120 and they didn't do anything wrong.

00:03:15.880 How are you equal if the men are the ones

00:03:18.760 that have to fight and die to defend the country?

00:03:21.240 The men are the ones that build and maintain

00:03:23.720 all the infrastructure.

00:03:25.320 Women are helplessly dependent upon men.

00:03:27.800 The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose,

00:03:31.000 to alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.

00:03:34.920 Culture is telling men, you are no good.

00:03:36.680 You've got to get your act together.

00:03:37.960 I think men have failed themselves.

00:03:39.560 What kind of a man are you?

00:03:40.840 What kind of a woman are you going to attract?

00:03:42.760 If men are in trouble, so are women.

00:03:45.400 Everybody knows this is a huge problem,

00:03:47.400 but nobody wants to admit it.

00:03:49.160 Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man-

00:03:51.400 500K, 500K, 300K, 200K.

00:03:53.880 Am I crazy?

00:03:54.600 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.

00:03:56.840 If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.

00:04:00.360 So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?

00:04:04.440 Women.

00:04:06.040 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.

00:04:07.880 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.

00:04:10.200 I'm over it.

00:04:11.320 When is it going to be my turn?

00:04:12.600 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?

00:04:14.440 I can't keep having these same conversations.

00:04:17.160 The only simp here is you, Pearl.

00:04:18.520 You simp for men.

00:04:19.080 No, I think you simp for women.

00:04:20.520 She's a provocateur.

00:04:21.480 She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.

00:04:23.800 It's already happening.

00:04:25.000 It's just not out in the open yet.

00:04:26.520 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairytale ending because men don't want a wife

00:04:30.760 and women can't find a husband.

00:04:32.120 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.

00:04:36.360 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.

00:04:40.280 Civilization will crumble.

00:04:42.120 The American story does not end well.

00:04:44.680 This is an existential crisis failing young men.

00:04:47.640 All right.

00:04:54.520 What is going on, people?

00:04:56.440 Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.

00:05:01.400 Thank you guys so much for tuning in.

00:05:03.720 And I was thinking to start the show that we should really go through some of my daily thoughts on

00:05:08.840 Twitter.

00:05:09.320 I really just like I thought that was kind of a fun segment last time because I kind of

00:05:14.360 I'll start going off on tangents and, you know, it can be kind of fun.

00:05:19.480 But before we get into that, guys, please make sure if you can, you can donate to the divorce

00:05:25.240 documentary.

00:05:26.120 The divorce documentary is something we have been attempting to put together.

00:05:30.280 But, you know, society just really doesn't want it to come out.

00:05:33.800 Um, one scorned woman dragged me to court.

00:05:37.080 Another scorned woman demonetized my channel for a year and a half.

00:05:41.640 Um, I had to let go of 20 employees, a whole thing all because they get so angry when we

00:05:46.840 give this information that women are whores, not all, and, um, that, you know,

00:05:54.440 marriage is a terrible deal.

00:05:56.680 And, you know, the reason, the reason that they don't want this information getting out is

00:06:02.120 everyone's paid by women.

00:06:03.800 I remember I had a conversation with my dad once and he's, uh, he's such a saint.

00:06:09.720 He's like the biggest saint ever.

00:06:11.800 And he talked about, um, how, cause I told him that everyone's paid by women.

00:06:17.720 And then he said, no, that's not true.

00:06:19.240 I wasn't paid by women.

00:06:20.440 He's like, I, I sell, um, they sell soft sold software to like, um, HVAC plumbing technician,

00:06:27.320 like that sort of thing.

00:06:28.920 And I said, dad, who's hiring them?

00:06:32.440 Men will figure out how to, how to do it themselves.

00:06:36.360 Women will hire them.

00:06:37.400 You're indirectly also paid by women.

00:06:40.200 He's like, and I was like, yeah, dad.

00:06:42.840 Yeah.

00:06:44.360 But he's so nice.

00:06:45.240 My dad's like, he's like a saint.

00:06:49.480 Saying a saint, I would call him Saint Dan.

00:06:52.280 Um, thank you to Sam for the donation, Alexander for another donation, William for another donation.

00:07:00.280 Okay.

00:07:00.840 So, um, those are the people, if you want to donate the link to that is in the description.

00:07:06.840 All right.

00:07:07.480 So today we're going to be reacting to, um,

00:07:13.880 we're good.

00:07:14.280 And by the way, if you guys like this t-shirt, it's the audacity network.

00:07:19.240 You know, I can sell these again.

00:07:20.840 I stopped selling them because people didn't buy them enough.

00:07:23.000 Okay.

00:07:24.680 So I wanted to talk about a couple of thoughts I had, um, on,

00:07:31.400 here we go on tweets that I saw.

00:07:33.480 This one was from coach Greg Adams.

00:07:36.040 And he said, she will cheat on a millionaire.

00:07:38.600 She'll cheat on the guy with status.

00:07:40.040 She'll cheat on the guy with muscles, cheat on game.

00:07:42.440 If she doesn't want to be kept, nothing will keep her.

00:07:44.680 Loyalty isn't earned.

00:07:45.640 It's chosen.

00:07:46.200 Choose wisely.

00:07:47.560 And this made me think about someone I know I'm in my, in my life.

00:07:52.200 And recently there was a breakup between this couple and, you know,

00:07:55.960 and he's devastated.

00:07:57.480 Right.

00:07:59.480 Um, but he had no idea the stuff this girl was doing before he met.

00:08:04.760 And he might think it's him, right?

00:08:06.440 He might think that it's something he did that couldn't keep her and yada, yada, yada.

00:08:10.920 But the truth is, you know, she was someone who just didn't want to be kept.

00:08:15.160 She didn't want to be, you know, she's someone that has a hard time with monogamy.

00:08:19.000 And that's a lot of women.

00:08:19.960 Uh, we have this idea that women are somehow monogamous and I, I don't really understand

00:08:25.240 how we have this idea considering how much of horrors we see women being right.

00:08:32.680 Okay.

00:08:33.160 So I, I had some pushback.

00:08:37.000 There's this voice in my head sometimes that talks and not actually, not actually.

00:08:45.080 Okay, so there is a tweet that I was tagged in recently and I'm kind of doing more harm

00:08:50.920 than good because I know that some of you will, in fact, subscribe to this girl's OnlyFans.

00:08:55.960 Now, apparently Lil Tay has decided to drop an OnlyFans, Lil Tay.

00:09:00.680 It says, Lil Tay be popping.

00:09:02.360 Now, I don't really understand who this chick is, um, but I think she's some sort of internet celebrity.

00:09:08.920 And the challenge you get with the mini Britney Spears' of the world is giving that much attention

00:09:14.440 to a young woman is kind of a dangerous thing because you're giving them a lot of power.

00:09:19.240 Power to make money, power to ruin someone's reputation, power to have access to high value

00:09:24.360 men.

00:09:25.400 Um, and so I guess she tweeted, you have 24 hours to vote yes or no on whether I should

00:09:29.960 make an OnlyFans.

00:09:31.320 If you don't respond, it counts as an automatic yes.

00:09:33.800 Now, obviously this woman's going to make the OnlyFans anyway.

00:09:37.560 And you see the, the responses.

00:09:40.200 And what I was trying to explain is, um, so Michael Knowles, and this is kind of like

00:09:45.320 a blue-pilled kind of simp answer, right?

00:09:48.360 Cause this is a shit test.

00:09:49.560 She's, she's testing to, she's basically saying like, she is making marketing for her

00:09:56.040 OnlyFans.

00:09:56.680 She is going to make the OnlyFans and what she wants you to do is engage and market it.

00:10:02.280 And you know, if Michael Knowles, if he really cared about her not doing it or like thought this

00:10:07.800 was wrong, he would just ignore it, right?

00:10:09.880 He would just ignore it because he doesn't want to market for this.

00:10:12.360 Um, he said, since, but the thing is with guys, they don't realize what women are doing,

00:10:17.560 or maybe they don't care.

00:10:18.920 He says, since you asked for my opinion, whether or not the question is sincere, I'll give it.

00:10:23.000 Don't no amount of money is worth your dignity and you'll regret it immensely if you do so.

00:10:27.640 And I thought that's such a blue-pilled way of thinking because a lot of women do it and they

00:10:31.720 don't regret it at all.

00:10:33.640 And it was worth their dignity.

00:10:35.320 And if anything, nowadays they don't even lose their dignity doing it.

00:10:39.320 I don't say that in a happy way.

00:10:41.000 I don't say that be like, I'm happy about it.

00:10:43.880 But women, if anything, they're rewarded and they're accepted into normal society these days.

00:10:53.240 All right.

00:10:53.720 So, uh, I think that's the only one I said, I said, you may as well do it because I don't

00:10:58.520 think you have much else to offer.

00:11:00.280 Oh wait, let me, let me call in Bryson.

00:11:04.840 Cause Bryson said he was disappointed in me for this response.

00:11:09.080 And I just think let's beef it out live Bryson.

00:11:12.040 All right.

00:11:12.360 Let me hold on.

00:11:15.000 Let me text.

00:11:16.120 I'm about to text him the link guys.

00:11:24.440 Tell me when he gets on.

00:11:26.360 Cause I tweeted this and he's a demonic advice, Pearl.

00:11:31.880 I'm disappointed.

00:11:35.480 Well, my advice, my advice was at least honest.

00:11:41.640 At this point, she's already mentally accepted that she's going to do it.

00:11:45.560 I'm sure the pictures are already in place.

00:11:50.360 You might as well just do it.

00:11:56.680 You're, you're pretty set on it.

00:11:58.360 So it's now not my problem.

00:12:01.480 And if anything, having outrage towards it, I just think Mark, it's the only fans.

00:12:08.200 But you know, I, I, I'll bring Bryson on the line in a second.

00:12:13.160 I don't know when he'll, he'll get on.

00:12:14.440 I think he's driving.

00:12:15.400 So you guys just let me know when he gets here and I'll go through some of my other tweets

00:12:21.800 that we got for the day before we get into the main reaction of the day.

00:12:26.680 So I guess she's made over $1 million in three hours.

00:12:31.160 Now a tune says only fans must be banned.

00:12:34.200 And I get a little bit irritated.

00:12:35.640 I get irritated when people say that it should be banned.

00:12:39.320 Even knowing because I'm a hypocrite that at one point I said the same thing.

00:12:44.600 But if we ban corn, guys have a sex drive, right?

00:12:49.480 So what are these guys going to do?

00:12:53.880 I understand there's some men that claim that they, they, they quit corn.

00:12:58.760 But I want you guys to know, I believe none of you and none of that is verifiable.

00:13:03.320 I just have to take your word that you never did it.

00:13:07.560 Yeah.

00:13:07.800 Okay.

00:13:08.680 Okay.

00:13:09.560 So if we ban corn, it's really just a solution to women being too hard to have sex with.

00:13:16.920 That's so I don't really think it's the end of the world.

00:13:19.640 Um, oh, another, another trad, um, Isabella Moody.

00:13:28.200 Where was she?

00:13:29.160 She says only fans, prostitutes, and simps who subscribe shouldn't be able to vote.

00:13:35.480 I don't really agree with that.

00:13:37.160 Um, maybe the prostitutes, because you guys know how I feel about that topic,

00:13:41.800 even though I can't get into it.

00:13:43.560 But the simps, I mean, I think if a guy, look,

00:13:47.320 as much of, I may not agree with it, or, you know, feels kind of icky.

00:13:52.360 If a guy's building like the infrastructure of society and doing a manual labor job,

00:13:58.200 I don't think you as a YouTuber have the right to tell him he's not able to be able to vote

00:14:05.000 just because he paid 599 to see some boobs.

00:14:07.880 I don't think it's that, I don't, I really don't think it's that deep.

00:14:11.720 Um, the, the, the hookers, I would agree, but that's because I don't,

00:14:17.080 I think it's more the, the gender, I can't get into it.

00:14:21.720 Um, let's see what else we got.

00:14:26.920 Oh, this is another trad wife.

00:14:29.880 So apparently, um, Rebecca, and this is a girl.

00:14:36.040 It's just, it's the fake trads.

00:14:38.600 They just, they drive me into oblivion.

00:14:41.480 Um, because you're not what you say you are.

00:14:45.160 You're, you're not, um, I'm happy you figured it out.

00:14:49.800 You stuck the landing, but there's no such thing as a traditional woman in this society.

00:14:55.240 So it says, help Robin go into labor by sending her the most obnoxious rage bait.

00:15:01.640 Come on.

00:15:03.560 Okay.

00:15:03.880 Give me, give me, I'm going to finish this thought and then I'll bring them up.

00:15:07.080 Rage tweeting pearly things brought my youngest into this world.

00:15:10.840 And the interesting thing is these are married women getting upset at me.

00:15:18.360 I just can't imagine a world where I am married happily to a man, right?

00:15:25.400 I'm, I'm happily married.

00:15:29.160 I'm in love.

00:15:30.440 I have these children.

00:15:32.600 And I just cannot imagine being an involved mother and still me, the random internet lady

00:15:42.120 triggering you so much that I, I, I even brought you into labor.

00:15:47.000 I, I have that much power over you is amazing.

00:15:50.760 Um,

00:15:51.080 Um, the other thing is I don't like, they always say I rage bait tweet, but they don't

00:15:58.920 tell me what I say.

00:16:00.280 That's so enraging.

00:16:02.680 I mean, I'll stand on the women shouldn't, I can't say it, but I'll stand on that.

00:16:07.800 That's what I think.

00:16:09.080 Um, and so it's almost like a way that they use when they don't like your opinion.

00:16:15.560 They just don't like it.

00:16:16.680 They don't like what you have to say.

00:16:18.440 So now you're a rage baiter.

00:16:19.800 Um, but from one, um, rage bait, I guess, personality, um, accused maybe to another.

00:16:29.640 I, we have friend of the show, Bryson Gray, where he's going to call in, apparently he's

00:16:34.920 on a road trip, but he said he was really disappointed in me as we said earlier.

00:16:40.920 And I think we should bring them up and we can have a conversation about it.

00:16:45.480 Bryson, how are you?

00:16:47.000 Is he on?

00:16:47.640 Bryson, can you see me?

00:16:50.280 Um, I can't see you, but it's because of how my TV is set up.

00:16:54.120 So I, you might be on screen or not.

00:16:56.760 I don't know.

00:16:57.160 I'd have to see.

00:16:58.360 Nah, you're good.

00:16:59.240 Okay.

00:16:59.560 You're good.

00:17:00.520 Can you hear me though?

00:17:01.320 I can hear you.

00:17:02.280 How are you?

00:17:02.920 Doing good on the way back from High Point, North Carolina on the road.

00:17:07.720 Oh, really?

00:17:09.000 How's, how's your show been going?

00:17:10.840 You getting some good guests on?

00:17:12.200 I haven't like kept doing my shows.

00:17:16.200 I've been traveling way too much.

00:17:17.800 What?

00:17:18.760 Like touring or what?

00:17:19.880 Yeah, touring.

00:17:21.400 Yeah, I've been doing way too much with music.

00:17:25.640 So cool.

00:17:28.360 Um, so I wanted to hear about your disappointment in me today.

00:17:31.640 I just saw the tweet and I was like, let's just, let's just bring them on.

00:17:36.280 Yeah, very, very disappointed Pearl, because I mean, I'm not even insinuating that her request

00:17:45.560 was genuine, but for the people she tagged, I like if you're going to respond, it's a great

00:17:53.800 opportunity to say no, because you can do something different.

00:17:58.920 Like we'll tell you, right?

00:18:00.360 I don't know how relevant she is in 2020 and the big 2025, but

00:18:06.840 rather than I, how old is her?

00:18:09.320 Like, I mean, how old is she?

00:18:10.360 Well, but my thing is she just wants to use you saying, don't do it for the marketing.

00:18:15.560 So I'm just like, you're not going to get that out of me.

00:18:17.880 Which responded regardless.

00:18:19.720 So you have the market regardless.

00:18:20.840 The only reason I even saw the post is because of your post under her.

00:18:24.520 That's true.

00:18:25.640 Um, but I just, I just thought it was funny to be honest.

00:18:29.480 I thought it was funny.

00:18:30.600 I thought it was a funny response.

00:18:31.960 So I'm just like, I don't, I just, I think

00:18:36.200 it's like, I think you're going to market it more arguing with her cause there's conflict.

00:18:41.240 I really do.

00:18:41.720 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:18:43.640 I'm not saying, I'm not saying argue.

00:18:45.480 Yeah.

00:18:47.480 I'm not saying argue.

00:18:48.600 I'm saying, say no, find God or no time to Jesus.

00:18:54.440 Like you don't have to go back and forth with her, but you know, just put something

00:18:57.640 about, you know, God in there and, you know, just plant a seed and see what possible to happen.

00:19:03.000 Yeah.

00:19:03.480 I, I don't think a seed would be planted.

00:19:06.200 I just think she was going to do it anyway.

00:19:08.120 You might as well.

00:19:12.920 I don't, I mean, I've given, I've given up Bryson.

00:19:15.960 I've given up.

00:19:16.920 So.

00:19:21.320 Listen, of course, I don't think I really don't think her joint was genuine.

00:19:36.200 But at the same time, this is, I view it as like a, just a quick opportunity.

00:19:45.160 You feel me?

00:19:45.640 I, I feel you.

00:19:47.880 I understand where you're coming from, but I'm just, I'm tired.

00:19:55.320 You ever get tired, you ever get, you ever get tired Bryson?

00:19:58.520 Like you just, you know, you see Lauren Southern crash out recently and like,

00:20:03.240 she's accusing everyone of rape and stuff.

00:20:06.520 That's, that's the typical women and woman thing to do when they need attention is

00:20:09.720 accusing a man of rape.

00:20:12.200 It's just like, and then the simps defend it.

00:20:14.920 Do you know what I mean?

00:20:15.880 It's just, it's like, like turning point or will platform for her doing that.

00:20:21.800 And I'm just like, even on the, I'm just tired.

00:20:25.880 You know, I give up.

00:20:27.400 You guys win.

00:20:28.520 Be whores.

00:20:29.240 I don't care.

00:20:33.080 They got to tell people to repent, you know, I mean, you never know.

00:20:36.920 Lauren Southern, I don't, I, you know, based on what I'm hearing, it seems like she has a,

00:20:42.440 she's known for being a harlot, but that's still the opportunity to tell her to repent,

00:20:47.880 stop engaging in harlotry.

00:20:50.200 Nice.

00:20:51.320 Well, do you have any, I, I just thought it'd be fun to bring you on today.

00:20:55.960 So you got any final words to give to me or to give to the people?

00:20:59.720 You can say a verse or something.

00:21:01.240 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

00:21:04.920 My message to everybody is repent or they all will perish.

00:21:09.400 That's Luke 13, three, but also though, but also here's the thing though.

00:21:14.600 The Bible says that God, angels rejoice more over one person that turns to God versus anybody else.

00:21:23.560 So even though a lot of these women are whores, lying about people about rape,

00:21:27.240 trying to get attention and money, whatever the case may be,

00:21:29.480 they're degenerates right now and they're probably going to hell, but they could also repent.

00:21:33.720 So that's my message.

00:21:34.920 Oh, yeah.

00:21:36.360 Hey Bryson, this is Doug MPA.

00:21:39.640 I help, I, I, I help Pearl with the show and I have to put things in context for you guys.

00:21:44.680 He doesn't know who Lil Tay is.

00:21:47.160 So let me paint the picture because, okay, Pearl, remember the other day we were talking about

00:21:52.920 if you were to have a young girl who chose, who chooses a career in media,

00:21:59.640 at 18, 19, 20 years old, what would be the game plan.

00:22:03.800 So Lil Tay was in middle school, right?

00:22:07.240 She's this Asian girl and she got popular because she was acting ratchet.

00:22:12.840 Yes.

00:22:13.160 On the internet, you know, tossing around money and trying to rap and cuss and stuff like that.

00:22:18.440 So she, she, she's already out there in the media already.

00:22:24.600 Yeah.

00:22:25.800 And she can't take that back.

00:22:28.840 She, she's already Lil Tay.

00:22:31.320 She's already, she, she already has like,

00:22:33.640 She's already cooked, huh?

00:22:34.520 Yeah. Yeah.

00:22:35.560 She's already cooked.

00:22:36.600 Yeah.

00:22:37.240 So what do we see?

00:22:38.600 That's, that's, that's why I disagree.

00:22:40.760 So you can't erase your past.

00:22:42.840 That's a fact, but you can become a new creation in Christ and let the old self die.

00:22:49.480 I mean, bro, I used to get drunk and make out random women in bars all the time.

00:22:54.440 I lived, my name used to be King Vodka and I was known for that where I'm from.

00:22:59.320 But at the end of the day, now I'm Bryson Gray and I stand on Bible.

00:23:03.640 Matter of fact, I think Lil Tay with her past, that's more of a reason why I would try to get

00:23:10.280 somebody like her to repent, but not, not super nice.

00:23:13.320 It's like, stop trying to be a whore.

00:23:15.080 Repent.

00:23:15.640 Be bored with it.

00:23:16.280 You feel it?

00:23:16.680 Okay.

00:23:17.320 So what's the biggest difference between you when you were young enough to make a change

00:23:21.560 and Lil Tay?

00:23:22.920 She's a woman.

00:23:25.160 That's the biggest difference.

00:23:26.920 Men are more likely to take accountability, look, accountability, look down the road and say,

00:23:30.840 man, you know, the path I'm going down isn't right.

00:23:35.400 Or they'll have people in their lives, you know, they'll have older men, people around

00:23:39.400 them giving them advice and say, hey, hey, young buck, if you keep going down this road,

00:23:44.520 it's going to be a bad thing for you.

00:23:45.960 But Lil Tay, she's already surrounded by the wrong people because she's Lil Tay.

00:23:52.040 Come on, man.

00:23:54.200 No, no, I mean, all that I agree with, but instead of the fact that they can happen,

00:23:58.760 just because men are more rational, and of course, men are more likely to take accountability,

00:24:02.600 of course, but that nature doesn't change the fact that there are some women that

00:24:07.320 have taken accountability for their past and turned to Christ.

00:24:11.160 Yeah, for now.

00:24:15.400 Until they don't.

00:24:16.520 Like, come on.

00:24:17.320 Yeah.

00:24:17.880 We don't.

00:24:18.280 You are crazy, bro.

00:24:19.880 What?

00:24:20.200 No, it's so true.

00:24:22.040 I mean, like Nala, let's take Nala, for example, as one,

00:24:26.360 but there's so many girls like her, they get to a certain age, and now they,

00:24:30.040 like, they don't want to take accountability for their past.

00:24:33.400 They have to.

00:24:34.760 They have to because they have to market to betas.

00:24:37.240 They got to have a bailout plan.

00:24:38.680 They got to get married.

00:24:39.560 Girl.

00:24:40.120 Yeah.

00:24:40.360 Oh, check this out.

00:24:41.480 So why is it, so Bryson, according to Nala, Lil Tay can open OnlyFans for five,

00:24:48.760 seven years, get 30, 40 million dollars, and then repent.

00:24:53.240 So why, why doesn't she just do it now, and then repent later on?

00:24:59.880 What's the difference?

00:25:00.680 I mean, I mean, there is no difference.

00:25:03.000 You can repent.

00:25:03.560 Anytime you're in the sand, you're gonna let her get an OnlyFans and get 30, 40 million dollars.

00:25:06.600 Oh my God.

00:25:08.120 Wait, she gets a get out of jail free card?

00:25:11.000 And you guys, if you were the same, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

00:25:13.800 Yeah, let's go.

00:25:17.000 Y'all not listening.

00:25:19.240 So if somebody is a whore, even if a woman sleeps or like 50 man, right?

00:25:24.120 What's the super whore name?

00:25:25.640 The one that's like popular?

00:25:27.960 Lily Phillips.

00:25:30.760 Is she the one that looks like a skeleton almost?

00:25:33.240 Bonnie Blue?

00:25:35.240 I don't know.

00:25:35.800 One of them, bro.

00:25:36.600 Okay.

00:25:37.560 Who cares?

00:25:38.120 The whores.

00:25:39.080 Yeah, go ahead.

00:25:39.880 She's a popular whore.

00:25:40.840 Yeah.

00:25:42.520 Yeah, yeah, no, the whore, the whore.

00:25:44.760 Literally right now, right?

00:25:47.720 She can repent.

00:25:48.440 Would it be harder for that person to repent?

00:25:50.600 Yes, because they engage in such filth.

00:25:53.960 As long as you're not reprobate, you can repent.

00:25:57.640 She might be reprobate.

00:25:59.240 But even one of them whores, they repent, turn to Christ, stop all that repent.

00:26:03.240 But repent requires action.

00:26:04.440 You can't just say, I repent.

00:26:05.960 You have to literally change your life in action and not succumb to the flesh.

00:26:09.400 Yeah, but then you can get all the fun and then you can just change later.

00:26:13.720 Like if you actually do it, so why would you not?

00:26:16.920 Oh my gosh, that's awesome.

00:26:18.200 And here's the thing.

00:26:19.880 Get a bigger caseload, a bigger case file to repent from.

00:26:25.640 Yeah.

00:26:26.040 And you might as well have the money too.

00:26:27.800 If you're going to repent, you might as well repent.

00:26:30.120 You know what I mean?

00:26:30.840 Yeah.

00:26:33.640 No, I don't.

00:26:34.440 I don't know what you mean.

00:26:35.480 Let me tell you why.

00:26:37.080 You're trying to, this is why you're trying to intentionally play God.

00:26:39.880 You're trying to say, listen, no, where'd he go until I have my butt first.

00:26:47.960 You're saying, you're saying, Hey God, you're saying, Hey God, my plan.

00:26:51.080 I am literally planning now to go be a whore and then we, no, no, that's, that's you trying

00:26:56.520 to play God.

00:26:57.080 That's literally reprobate as you like literally spitting in God's face.

00:26:59.720 But you can just, you can just pretend you didn't later.

00:27:03.080 You know what I mean?

00:27:03.640 Like you can just pretend, Oh, I didn't plan this out.

00:27:08.840 Oh yeah.

00:27:09.400 I just have to have something to change your heart.

00:27:12.680 You have to have something to repent from, right?

00:27:16.200 Now, would you argue, argue that the more that you repent from, the more like, do you get more

00:27:23.160 credit for repenting for more whoring or what?

00:27:27.640 I mean, no, because repentance is the same for everybody.

00:27:30.040 Turn to sin.

00:27:31.080 Stop being stiff neck.

00:27:32.440 Turn from saying, turn to God.

00:27:35.560 But like I said, you can, you can be too far gone.

00:27:37.640 That's what a reprobate mind is.

00:27:38.840 Reprobate my ability is too far gone.

00:27:40.920 But the problem is that y'all case, the way y'all do things, y'all, y'all automatically

00:27:47.080 assume the worst.

00:27:48.600 And I'm not even saying most times the worst isn't the correct thing.

00:27:51.960 It's 2035, man.

00:27:53.560 I mean, it is, but the problem with assuming the worst as a one-size-fits-all

00:28:00.200 is you miss when it's not that.

00:28:03.320 And when you miss when it's not that, I mean, if y'all don't care about being followers of God,

00:28:08.840 then your own prerogative, you'll go to hell with the horse.

00:28:11.880 Wait, so I'm immoral because I don't believe somebody?

00:28:14.920 That's not what I just said.

00:28:16.760 I have no way.

00:28:17.560 Okay.

00:28:18.040 That's how I took.

00:28:21.160 Okay.

00:28:21.640 What did I, what did I say that was incorrect?

00:28:23.720 Cause the, what you said while I understood it is that it, if like, I am missing the one

00:28:32.040 people that are actually genuinely repenting, and then you're just as bad as them.

00:28:37.240 But it's like, if I don't believe you, like, why do I have to believe them?

00:28:41.400 You know, go ahead.

00:28:41.960 Well, that's not, that's not what I said.

00:28:43.640 Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

00:28:44.280 And listen, a lot of times when I talk to women, this happens.

00:28:47.240 What I just said, what I just said, literally.

00:28:49.880 Okay.

00:28:51.080 Not saying the majority of the time you aren't correct when you assume the worst.

00:28:54.840 I say it, but when you assume the worst is a one-size-fits-all thing,

00:28:58.920 you can miss when it's the opposite.

00:29:00.840 And I said, that's cool.

00:29:02.120 Okay.

00:29:02.520 Yeah.

00:29:02.840 Unless you are a person of God.

00:29:05.800 And the reason I said, that's cool.

00:29:06.760 Unless you're a person of God is because you have no choices.

00:29:09.640 You're commended things as a person of God, you're commanded to do certain things.

00:29:13.800 You're commanded to give people opportunity to repent.

00:29:16.360 You're commanded to forgive people.

00:29:18.440 So if you're not a person of God and you automatically has a one-size-fits-all thing,

00:29:22.760 that's fine from early perspective, because in most cases you'll be right.

00:29:25.720 It's rational.

00:29:26.280 I'm not saying it's irrational, but if you are a Christian, you have no choice,

00:29:29.560 but to do a case by case basis or else you're bearing a false witness and a righteous judgment,

00:29:34.520 a million things.

00:29:35.160 But why can't I just believe it in like 20 years?

00:29:38.440 Why can't my default be guilty until proven otherwise?

00:29:44.280 Why can't that be my default?

00:29:46.120 You know what I mean?

00:29:46.760 Like my dad, he has a phrase.

00:29:48.520 He says he expects nothing from everybody.

00:29:50.920 Like if he hires someone, he expects them to do a terrible job.

00:29:54.280 And he said it's because then he's not disappointed.

00:29:57.560 That's great advice.

00:29:59.480 And he said, he said, I expect them to do an awful job.

00:30:02.040 And if they do a great job, then I'm pleasantly surprised.

00:30:06.280 I'm happy.

00:30:07.480 And this is a guy.

00:30:10.200 I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:30:11.160 Yeah.

00:30:11.400 And so I would apply the same thing with, especially my gender.

00:30:15.320 I mean, come on, we don't mean anything.

00:30:17.960 Like, come on.

00:30:18.600 Like, have you seen us?

00:30:20.200 So if I see a conversion from an ex-ho, I already know that you were able to do the OnlyFans.

00:30:29.560 I already know you're very good at lying, especially to men.

00:30:32.520 I know you're good at manipulating men.

00:30:34.520 So why wouldn't my default be, I don't believe you?

00:30:37.080 And then in like 20 years, if you're still around, which they're usually not, then I'll believe you.

00:30:42.840 Maybe.

00:30:43.960 The problem is you just contradicted yourself with the thing you just said about your father.

00:30:48.840 So let me ask you a question.

00:30:49.720 Okay.

00:30:50.200 How can a whore, at what point, because you remember what you said about your father,

00:30:55.240 I expect the worst, but if they prove otherwise and do a good job, then I believe them.

00:30:59.960 My question is, what criteria does a whore have to meet for you to think it's a good job and real,

00:31:05.400 or is there no criteria for them to hit and you automatically think it's a bad job?

00:31:08.520 I would, I would, yeah, yeah, I got you.

00:31:11.320 So it would have to be their actions over the time.

00:31:14.440 And time, I would say, would have to be 10, 20 years.

00:31:17.400 The longer they hoard, the more time I'd have to see it.

00:31:20.760 The other challenge you're going to get is nowadays, you can just live a double life in another city.

00:31:26.280 I would, I would have a hard time believing in ex OnlyFans, girl.

00:31:29.880 I would have to, I would have to see modest clothes from her.

00:31:34.280 Like your, your friend, the, the like Therese one, remember?

00:31:39.000 I forgot her name, but I see her on Twitter all the time.

00:31:42.200 And before she was like on this God stuff and now she's three or four in it on the timeline.

00:31:46.600 You know what I mean?

00:31:47.080 It's just like, yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like these women, it's like one day.

00:31:51.000 So I'd rather not be disappointed and just be like, do you know what you got?

00:31:56.120 This is terrible.

00:31:57.080 Wait, but, but, but, but, but I mean specific.

00:31:59.800 So, okay.

00:32:00.440 Okay.

00:32:00.520 Okay.

00:32:00.840 Okay.

00:32:01.160 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:32:02.040 I'll tell you.

00:32:03.000 Let's say modesty, right?

00:32:03.800 I talked about this already.

00:32:05.000 Okay.

00:32:05.560 Go ahead, bud.

00:32:06.200 Okay.

00:32:06.680 Okay.

00:32:07.000 I said she has to be vetted and married to a man of the church.

00:32:15.160 As in like, she has to meet a church going man and that man has to bring her into the church

00:32:21.000 through marriage, right?

00:32:23.720 She has to have that man's children and have avoided that behavior for 10 to 15 years.

00:32:33.880 Okay.

00:32:34.200 Wait, so I just want to get this straight.

00:32:35.800 So your criteria is she has to marry a man of God and has to have children with that man of God.

00:32:41.320 I'm not against that criteria.

00:32:42.520 If somebody was a whore for a very long time and we need, we need some fruit, marrying a man of God

00:32:49.080 and having children with that man.

00:32:50.840 Beautiful.

00:32:51.240 I'm with you here.

00:32:52.120 Yeah.

00:32:52.280 But then that second half of what you're saying is what don't make sense, right?

00:32:56.600 No whoring for 10 to 15 years at least.

00:32:59.800 Okay.

00:33:00.040 Just, hold on, hold on.

00:33:01.000 I got a question though.

00:33:02.120 Let's say, right.

00:33:03.880 This happens.

00:33:05.240 So when that happens though, that's not enough for you.

00:33:08.680 Even after that, she has to start.

00:33:11.800 It's a start, but even a start is marrying a man of God and having kids.

00:33:16.760 A start to you is not dating a man of God, starting to dress more modest, starting to,

00:33:22.120 starting to show fruit because there's a lot of things that can be considered fruit.

00:33:25.160 But even after she marries a man of God and have children with this man of God,

00:33:29.880 she still have to quote unquote, not whore out for 10 to 15 years.

00:33:34.200 Yeah.

00:33:34.760 Why not five years?

00:33:35.800 Because the average marriage lasts six to seven years.

00:33:40.280 So she has to stay married to that man longer than the average marriage.

00:33:43.480 I would want to say, I would, I would actually, I would actually depend.

00:33:46.840 I said 10.

00:33:47.720 Yeah.

00:33:48.040 I would, I would actually say, um, the youngest kids got to hit like 10 to 15.

00:33:54.360 I would even maybe put 20 years because, um, I know once they hit the 20 year mark,

00:33:58.920 they don't usually divorce.

00:34:00.120 So yeah, for me, that's, that's what it would take.

00:34:03.880 Why, why?

00:34:04.440 Okay.

00:34:04.840 But based on statistics and based on what y'all saying,

00:34:06.920 that seven year marks should be when everything is like solidified.

00:34:10.840 No, I would need longer.

00:34:12.760 Yeah.

00:34:13.160 Okay.

00:34:13.400 So, so that, so that's not based on data or anything right here.

00:34:16.440 We're talking about feelings.

00:34:17.320 My next question though, is during that time when this person is in the process of quote

00:34:23.000 unquote, proving herself to be different than, than, than what she was.

00:34:27.800 My question is, will you continue to call her a whore during, during the process?

00:34:32.440 Or will you back up and watch and see first before you resume calling her a whore?

00:34:37.240 Yeah.

00:34:37.720 So what I would like to see, it depends how the church treats her because nowadays they

00:34:41.960 just hand her a microphone and let her start preaching.

00:34:45.080 So I would prefer that she sits in the back of the church, draws no attention to herself at all.

00:34:51.720 If she draws any attention to herself, get out of here.

00:34:54.920 We don't need any attention on you.

00:34:56.760 You've had enough attention for, if you had an only fans, you have an attention addiction problem.

00:35:02.040 So I want you in the back of the church.

00:35:03.800 I want you shutting up one argument.

00:35:06.200 You're out.

00:35:07.160 What?

00:35:07.400 Like I, if you wear one promiscuous thing to church gone, you can't come back.

00:35:12.680 Like I, I actually want there to be standards in the church and them to enforce them and kick

00:35:18.040 her out if she doesn't stay, if she doesn't follow them.

00:35:20.760 I'm so tired.

00:35:21.560 That's biblical.

00:35:22.600 You have a 10 year probationary period.

00:35:25.800 Wait, wait, but, but, but my question is not answered though.

00:35:28.280 So do, during this probationary period that y'all are speaking of, will you continue, if you talk

00:35:33.800 about this woman, will she still be called a whore or is there, or is there a wait?

00:35:40.600 Once you're a whore, you're always a whore.

00:35:42.440 So I mean, if anything, if anything, if anything, if anything, that's on her to not be offended.

00:35:48.760 Like that's on her.

00:35:49.560 Like if she gets offended, that's your own fault.

00:35:53.640 It's not about her being offended.

00:35:54.760 I talk about the person that's doing this.

00:35:56.360 That's unrighteous.

00:35:56.840 That's unrighteous.

00:35:57.800 That's unrighteous.

00:35:58.360 Well, I would just say that would be a fact.

00:36:00.600 Like you're a whore.

00:36:01.800 Just like, yeah, just like.

00:36:03.320 A whore has me actively doing something.

00:36:05.720 If I used to be a thief and I stopped stealing, I'm no longer a thief.

00:36:08.920 You can't continue calling me a thief.

00:36:10.280 No, I would still say you're a thief.

00:36:12.200 You just stopped stealing.

00:36:14.280 Okay.

00:36:14.520 That's just, that's just, that's just, that's just, I mean, no disrespect.

00:36:17.000 That is a rash.

00:36:18.200 That's totally rational.

00:36:19.400 Like, um, I don't, I don't think, um, I don't think Jordan Belford isn't a thief anymore.

00:36:23.880 He's still a thief.

00:36:24.760 I wouldn't want him near any of my family's money.

00:36:27.640 Oh, hell no.

00:36:28.520 I w I wouldn't really want him around me.

00:36:30.280 Go ahead.

00:36:31.080 But he just, he just stopped robbing people.

00:36:33.560 But I, I think it's more because, you know, he, he can't do it anymore.

00:36:38.200 Um, he had to go to jail.

00:36:39.400 Okay.

00:36:39.880 Drug addicts have to accept the fact that once again, this is feelings.

00:36:43.240 Drug addicts.

00:36:44.920 Per definition of the word, they're not a thief anymore.

00:36:47.720 Just like an NBA player.

00:36:49.080 If they retire, people don't say they're an NBA player.

00:36:51.720 They say they used to be NBA player.

00:36:53.000 They're ex NBA player.

00:36:54.120 They retired NBA player.

00:36:55.720 Nobody says they're still an NBA player because that sounds retarded.

00:36:58.680 So we're going to be.

00:36:59.480 Most people would call Michael Jordan an NBA player.

00:37:02.280 They do just say he retired.

00:37:03.800 They would just say he retired.

00:37:04.920 Look up any article about Michael Jordan in the last year.

00:37:07.560 It's going to say ex NBA player or, or, or, or use the NBA player.

00:37:11.320 They're going to call him.

00:37:11.800 Okay.

00:37:12.040 Bryson player.

00:37:13.320 Okay.

00:37:13.880 If, if a guy touches kids and gets convicted and gets out and isn't touching kids anymore.

00:37:20.120 Is he still a, uh, you know, uh, offender?

00:37:23.320 Yes or no.

00:37:23.880 No, he used it.

00:37:25.160 He used to be a pedo, but he shouldn't get that opportunity.

00:37:27.720 I mean, they should all die.

00:37:28.600 Where is this energy for the horse?

00:37:32.200 That's what I'm saying.

00:37:33.080 Come on.

00:37:33.800 Like this is.

00:37:35.480 Oh, don't.

00:37:36.360 So, so, so I want everybody to get, I don't, I don't want anybody to be confused right now.

00:37:40.040 A harlot can repent.

00:37:41.480 Somebody that committed adultery.

00:37:42.840 I believe what the Bible believes.

00:37:44.200 Anybody that says the Bible should be pit to death.

00:37:46.280 Don't ever get me confused.

00:37:47.960 I support them getting pit to death.

00:37:49.800 So if two people commit, you can ask Shekinah this all the time.

00:37:52.520 She roll her eyes.

00:37:53.480 When I hear about somebody cheating on their wife or cheating on their husband,

00:37:57.000 I'll say we need to go back to the Bible days, but a regular harlot is different from somebody

00:38:01.400 cheating on your wife.

00:38:02.440 And that's not called for death in the Bible.

00:38:05.720 All it says for this definition of a whore is a person who is sexually promiscuous or a person

00:38:10.760 who engages in a sex act for money.

00:38:13.480 And so I would take number two, a person who is sexually promiscuous.

00:38:17.640 I would say they're still sexually promiscuous.

00:38:19.880 They just stopped whoring, but they're still that person.

00:38:23.560 No, and here's how, no, no.

00:38:26.040 Here's how it would go in the church right there.

00:38:27.640 Here's how it would go in the church right there.

00:38:29.480 Here's the thing.

00:38:29.960 See, see, he is the rest because he knows you start looking up these definitions.

00:38:32.840 No, no, no, hold on.

00:38:34.600 I was going to say one thing.

00:38:36.520 You don't understand.

00:38:38.360 Whores are addicted to attention.

00:38:41.560 They have to get that kind of, like Nala.

00:38:44.840 Nala went right to preaching because she needs to get that dopamine hit by proselytizing.

00:38:51.960 She's making up for what she's not getting on OnlyFans by trying to preach

00:38:55.720 and get addiction that way.

00:38:57.560 So you would have to keep these women away from that.

00:39:01.240 If a whore goes into the church,

00:39:04.840 Nala would actively call her a whore out of nowhere.

00:39:08.200 But she would show a tendency where she wouldn't be able to stay in her place.

00:39:12.440 She'd move out of her place, start trying to preach and proselytize just like Nala.

00:39:18.280 Then you say, whore, stop talking.

00:39:20.920 You don't know anything.

00:39:21.720 Okay, so.

00:39:22.120 You have a long way to go.

00:39:23.560 That's how it would go.

00:39:24.920 I partially agree.

00:39:26.840 Unless they show that they're not changing, then you can go back and call them whore.

00:39:31.400 This is the difference though.

00:39:32.760 If I'm not mistaken, I mean, I do agree that I do not like when people just become Christians.

00:39:37.800 It could be anybody, really.

00:39:39.320 I don't even like Jelly Roll to talk about Christ.

00:39:40.920 You need to shut his mouth and open a Bible.

00:39:42.680 But including with Nala, you shouldn't be pushed to the forefront

00:39:47.320 in interviews and such when you are a babe in Christ.

00:39:50.440 Just like Russell Brand.

00:39:51.800 Don't stop pitting these people in a position to talk as if they some authority on Christ.

00:39:56.920 But if I'm not mistaken, Nayla's about to get married, isn't she?

00:40:00.680 She got married over Zoom, but where are the kids?

00:40:04.520 She's married.

00:40:05.800 Okay, so we talking through here.

00:40:07.480 What's next?

00:40:08.360 When are y'all going to stop calling her whore?

00:40:10.440 Um, but she still dresses like a whore.

00:40:13.640 And when she stops talking so much.

00:40:15.320 Yeah.

00:40:15.640 And trying to preach.

00:40:17.080 Okay, so.

00:40:18.200 Like, okay.

00:40:18.760 I saw her, me and my wife saw her IG.

00:40:21.560 And you know, she's new.

00:40:23.560 Some of the stuff she wears is like, okay, you need to work on this.

00:40:26.200 But it's way better than what she used to dress like.

00:40:28.760 Can we all admit on that?

00:40:29.960 Oh my God.

00:40:30.680 You guys have no standards.

00:40:32.200 You just let everybody in.

00:40:33.560 No, I do have standards.

00:40:35.080 You don't like what I'm saying.

00:40:36.840 But even the fact that you're white knighting so hard for her.

00:40:41.320 It's like, this is what people.

00:40:42.200 White knighting?

00:40:42.760 Yeah, you're right.

00:40:44.200 For using y'all criteria and seeing, can y'all stay consistent with y'all criteria?

00:40:47.880 I'm not white knighting.

00:40:48.920 Okay.

00:40:49.160 Y'all just dislike something.

00:40:50.200 You have a one size fits all view.

00:40:51.560 Which means at some point, you'll be irrational.

00:40:53.560 I won't.

00:40:53.960 Not really.

00:40:54.600 I want you to stop dressing like a whore.

00:40:56.360 And she didn't.

00:40:57.000 Me too.

00:40:57.560 I'm the king of telling the women to stop dressing like whores.

00:41:00.440 She still does it.

00:41:01.480 Well, what about the fact that she's accepting all these roles

00:41:06.760 and all these Christian groups as a Christian leader of a woman?

00:41:10.440 And she's trying to be...

00:41:12.600 There's no such thing as a woman Christian leader of anything.

00:41:15.080 So if she's doing that, she needs to stop.

00:41:17.480 That's why you call her a whore in response.

00:41:19.720 Say, look, whore.

00:41:20.680 No, that's...

00:41:21.560 Stop talking.

00:41:23.320 No, you don't call somebody whore for after they have a leader role where they don't.

00:41:29.560 No, but even proselytizing all that stuff.

00:41:32.120 I told you, Nala is trading in the attention from OnlyFans to the attention that she's getting as being

00:41:40.040 a Christian now.

00:41:41.240 She has a new addiction.

00:41:43.960 I have a question for you.

00:41:47.480 If she has kids, because according to your criteria...

00:41:50.440 Because remember, I asked both of you for your criteria.

00:41:52.440 Yeah.

00:41:52.840 So according to your criteria, she made step one.

00:41:55.720 So my question is when she passes step two and hopefully she starts dressing more modestly.

00:42:01.720 My question is, at what point do you start calling her a whore?

00:42:06.440 Is it seven years or...

00:42:07.640 No, I don't...

00:42:08.600 15 years.

00:42:09.720 Well, I don't believe her because her actions still don't match right now.

00:42:14.600 I think it's easy to dress modestly when you're old and ugly.

00:42:18.440 So I kind of like to see what you do when you're young and hot.

00:42:21.720 You know, and she's still young and hot and she's still dressing like a whore.

00:42:24.840 So I'd say like year one, not going so well for her.

00:42:28.760 Yeah, she got married, but where's the kids?

00:42:31.320 Right?

00:42:31.640 I mean, you know...

00:42:33.240 And her OnlyFans was still on for the first, what, nine, 10 months?

00:42:37.960 Yeah, it was.

00:42:38.440 And she became a Christian?

00:42:39.320 Is she still a baby?

00:42:40.360 It was.

00:42:40.760 Yeah, it's terrible.

00:42:41.400 Yeah, so what I believe...

00:42:43.400 Do I believe her because she said she would stay with a guy for life?

00:42:49.640 Not really.

00:42:50.760 So I would need more than that.

00:42:52.520 So what if in the next year, she starts dressing completely modest, as she should,

00:42:57.320 dress like a whore is a sin.

00:42:59.320 So let's say she starts dressing completely modest and she announces she's pregnant.

00:43:04.680 At what point are you like, maybe I possibly could have been a robe?

00:43:08.360 I don't know.

00:43:08.840 At what point?

00:43:09.400 15 years.

00:43:13.880 I'll still think she'll go back because again, most of her life, she's had harlot behavior.

00:43:19.320 She's done interviews.

00:43:20.360 And so she had done it since she was as young as 13, 14 years old.

00:43:24.680 Like she was not the OF, but like she was, you know, talked about being a kid, sneaking out.

00:43:30.120 Let's say 15, she started.

00:43:32.040 She's 26.

00:43:32.840 That's 11 years.

00:43:34.360 So 11 years of a behavior.

00:43:36.760 I'm going to need to see you stop for like 15.

00:43:39.240 And I wouldn't even count this year because all you did was get married.

00:43:43.240 Anybody can take a vow, right?

00:43:45.000 That's not a hard thing to do.

00:43:46.440 What's difficult is to, you know, go out of the limelight, not dress like, you know,

00:43:50.840 when you have a good body, not showing it off.

00:43:53.000 It's like when fat people don't show off their bodies.

00:43:55.240 I don't really care.

00:43:56.200 Like, okay, you know?

00:43:57.480 And then also she, she already gotten a taste of the OF money, the lifestyle.

00:44:04.920 She's going to have to resist going back to that or finding or doing some type of that

00:44:11.480 for, for 10 to 15 years, at least, because it's always the desire for her to do that because

00:44:17.160 she could not do OF for three, four years.

00:44:20.360 Let's see how she does living like a normal person on a regular income.

00:44:23.880 Understand what I'm saying?

00:44:24.600 Well, no, I don't.

00:44:26.040 I'm going to be honest with you and I'm going to be honest.

00:44:28.680 And I won't tell you, let me finish.

00:44:29.720 I'm of course, you know, I love Pearl.

00:44:32.440 But I got to be honest with y'all.

00:44:33.960 I think y'all are no different.

00:44:35.160 I'm going to tell you why I say this.

00:44:36.440 Because anyway, listen, I'm going to keep, I got to keep, I got to be honest with y'all.

00:44:40.440 Based on the criteria y'all hit, the more I question both of y'all,

00:44:43.720 the more everything keeps extended and keeps stretching.

00:44:46.440 What I honestly believe is y'all just feel a certain way.

00:44:50.120 It's about feelings.

00:44:51.240 And I think that there is no criteria for somebody to hit.

00:44:54.040 You're always going to find a reason at some point.

00:44:56.840 And I'm not saying you're a hundred percent wrong.

00:44:58.680 I genuinely believe in most cases, these people are lying.

00:45:02.120 The overwhelming majority of cases, I think they're lying.

00:45:05.400 But based on the, I asked questions for a reason.

00:45:08.280 And I think y'all, I don't think y'all things are based on logic or rationale.

00:45:12.040 I think it's based, I feel this way about women and women, period, point blank.

00:45:16.360 And I'm going to find whichever way I need to make sure that I keep feeling this way as a one

00:45:20.840 size fits all thing.

00:45:22.200 I think women are irrational.

00:45:24.120 I think women take no responsibility or accountability for the things they do.

00:45:28.440 But at the same time, there's a moment where you got to be honest with yourself and be objective,

00:45:34.200 rather than just have a one size fits all thing.

00:45:36.440 Well, I'm going to say my position.

00:45:38.520 I don't think that OnlyFans models and whores should ever be let into the church.

00:45:43.720 Once you do that, it's done for you.

00:45:45.720 So this is literally a thought exercise for me.

00:45:50.200 I have a flat thing.

00:45:51.560 There are things that people can do where they shouldn't be accepted anywhere.

00:45:55.720 And they have to suffer the consequences for the rest of their lives.

00:45:58.120 And OnlyFans and whoring is one of those.

00:46:00.440 So this is literally a thought exercise for me.

00:46:02.920 I don't think that any of you Christians should let any of these women near your church,

00:46:08.440 where you guys have followed the rules, you've done what you can, you help your community,

00:46:12.840 and you're going to let these whores in.

00:46:14.440 I don't think you should at all.

00:46:17.640 The problem is your position.

00:46:19.480 The problem is, it's just like when I hear whores talk about, like, you shouldn't judge.

00:46:23.720 It's like, I think you should judge.

00:46:25.400 Well, wait, wait, wait.

00:46:26.280 Listen to what I'm saying.

00:46:26.920 No, listen, I feel the same way when I hear advice from people like you.

00:46:30.520 It's like, why are you giving advice?

00:46:32.120 Because your standards aren't based on the Bible.

00:46:33.720 Your standard is based on a personal worldview you have, which means you are your own God.

00:46:38.520 So what's the difference between you giving an opinion of what the church should do,

00:46:42.360 then OnlyFans who are saying women that dress imodels should be allowed in the church?

00:46:47.400 There is no difference.

00:46:48.440 Because what y'all saying is not based on the Bible.

00:46:49.960 Well, I would say that at least in Doug's house, he runs it.

00:46:53.000 But the church guys let women manipulate them and hand over power to women in the church.

00:46:58.280 And that's true to 90% of churches.

00:47:00.600 And so at least an average guy, he's the king of his own castle.

00:47:03.720 He's the head of his house.

00:47:05.320 Well, I'm going to be honest.

00:47:06.200 In most churches, I'm 100% in agreement.

00:47:08.440 I mean, I literally spend 90% of my music calling out a church.

00:47:12.280 They have women pastors.

00:47:13.800 They let gay couples.

00:47:15.800 They letting women dress like whores in there.

00:47:18.040 All that's demonic.

00:47:19.320 But see, the issue though here is y'all say, I don't even believe it.

00:47:24.280 I don't believe how the people that have these views about women,

00:47:28.120 I believe they'll fold very quickly.

00:47:31.080 Because me, I'm actually, I'm married and my wife right beside me.

00:47:34.200 She submits to me and I'm the king of my household.

00:47:36.680 And I can say that no offense will happen because that's biblical.

00:47:39.960 And since my wife is a biblical woman, she's going to stand on that business.

00:47:42.520 Your wife is awesome.

00:47:43.720 I love your wife.

00:47:44.440 She makes very good cookies.

00:47:47.080 She's great.

00:47:47.800 She is great.

00:47:48.360 I've seen you talk about your wife before.

00:47:51.320 She sounds amazing, man.

00:47:52.440 She sounds awesome.

00:47:53.560 Well, she's amazing because she follows her, her core values is the Bible.

00:47:59.800 So this is, and this is, and this is my core value.

00:48:08.200 Not these conservatives.

00:48:10.040 I came to be Christian.

00:48:11.000 I don't submit to my husband, husband.

00:48:12.760 No, them, them women are heathens.

00:48:15.320 I'm talking about real biblical women.

00:48:17.320 They already know to submit to their husbands.

00:48:20.440 So if we keep things biblical, we wouldn't be in half of these situations anyway.

00:48:24.360 I totally agree with you.

00:48:26.280 But my point is you're letting in women that aren't biblical.

00:48:29.560 And it would be one thing if their actions matched.

00:48:32.920 But it's like, I don't really care if you say you repented.

00:48:36.680 If I'm looking at your Instagram and your butt's still out.

00:48:39.960 Or if you're posting a TikTok and flashing the camera and she did that.

00:48:44.360 And then nobody calls her out and it's just an excuse.

00:48:46.840 It's like, oh, she's learning.

00:48:48.040 I'm like, really?

00:48:49.480 You're 26.

00:48:50.360 You can't figure out how to be modest if that's what you say you want, right?

00:48:56.840 I just got to look at their actions.

00:48:58.280 And most of them, I don't see a change.

00:49:00.600 So it's just my opinion.

00:49:02.120 You do judge by actions.

00:49:06.040 I don't see people in my fold doing stuff like that.

00:49:09.160 That's like with me.

00:49:10.600 I'm saying that I'm asking about the logical consistency over the course of time.

00:49:14.920 If somebody is still doing that, that is wrong.

00:49:17.080 I'm saying at what point, because if they do start progressing and stop doing that and get married

00:49:23.000 and have kids, then at what point are we helping them out?

00:49:26.360 15 years, that's crazy work.

00:49:28.120 That's just saying I don't want to give them back.

00:49:30.840 No, I don't think it's our job to help.

00:49:34.360 I can't make her not sin.

00:49:36.040 That's her job.

00:49:38.520 I can't put a gun to her head and say, Nala, stop dressing like a whore.

00:49:44.760 You know, Nala, that's on her.

00:49:47.640 I don't know.

00:49:48.200 Yeah.

00:49:50.280 That has nothing to do with us.

00:49:51.320 I never said that.

00:49:52.280 I'm talking about the criteria you give it.

00:49:54.200 You're the one giving the criteria.

00:49:55.320 You're the one commenting on whoever the woman is.

00:50:01.240 Your worldview, even in your quote unquote claim criteria.

00:50:04.440 Because what it seems is I'm giving criteria the same objective.

00:50:07.560 But then when there's a line of questioning about the criteria, everything starts extending.

00:50:11.560 And it's like, even then, or I don't know, even then, you know what I'm saying?

00:50:15.240 So that means your criteria isn't real.

00:50:16.840 That means there is no criteria.

00:50:19.000 No, I think you're just saying a lot of words, but you're not saying anything.

00:50:24.680 No, I said something clear.

00:50:27.320 Neither one of you have responses to it.

00:50:28.760 That's why you can't respond to it.

00:50:29.800 Not really.

00:50:30.200 I clearly say your criteria doesn't make sense.

00:50:32.360 And I proved it by asking y'all a line of questioning.

00:50:34.760 No, my criteria makes perfect sense.

00:50:39.000 I want her to not do the behavior for longer than she did it.

00:50:43.000 At least I think that's the bare minimum.

00:50:45.560 She did it for 11 years, 11 plus years.

00:50:48.040 You don't do it.

00:50:49.320 Isn't that fair?

00:50:50.680 I think that's perfectly fair.

00:50:52.360 No, of course not.

00:50:54.840 No, no, I'm not.

00:50:56.760 I'm just, it just makes no sense.

00:50:57.800 Because his criteria was married, children, and then he said, well, statistically is at

00:51:03.000 the seven year mark, but I don't really care about that.

00:51:05.320 It has to be even, even so, even so after that.

00:51:08.200 So that means even as he's given his criteria, once these, these points are met, it doesn't

00:51:12.360 mean anything to him until the end point is met.

00:51:14.600 Well, there is no progression.

00:51:16.200 No, I'm saying we can maybe go back and forth.

00:51:18.680 Is it seven years?

00:51:19.640 Is it 10 years?

00:51:20.440 Is it 15?

00:51:21.240 But I need longer than like a 90 day trial, Bryson.

00:51:24.200 And that's what you guys are get.

00:51:25.240 Like you guys expect me to believe these people in a year.

00:51:27.720 Who are you guys?

00:51:29.000 Because obviously you're not listening to anything I'm saying.

00:51:30.920 I'll tell you, I'll tell you, you just like the women you talk about.

00:51:33.320 You just, no, I, an example I can use is during this conversation, you were defending Nala's

00:51:38.600 Instagram.

00:51:40.040 No, I didn't.

00:51:40.520 You're lying.

00:51:40.920 You did.

00:51:41.720 Name the quote.

00:51:42.520 Name the quote.

00:51:42.920 Why I defend her Instagram right now.

00:51:43.960 You said my wife was looking at her Instagram and it's better than it used to be.

00:51:48.680 And I'm like, wow.

00:51:49.160 Is that defending her?

00:51:49.800 Is that a fact?

00:51:50.280 Is that a fact?

00:51:50.840 Is that a fact?

00:51:51.320 Is that a fact, girl?

00:51:52.200 That's definitely, that's definitely defending her.

00:51:53.720 No, no, it's not.

00:51:54.840 Wait, wait, wait, let me ask the male.

00:51:57.320 Let me ask the male in the room.

00:51:58.440 Did I still say it's wrong?

00:51:59.480 Yes or no?

00:52:01.800 You know what?

00:52:02.280 I'm not, I'm not quite sure what you're saying, bro.

00:52:06.600 I'm telling y'all, bro.

00:52:07.720 Y'all look not honest, bro.

00:52:09.800 Here's the thing about it.

00:52:10.920 Here's the thing about it.

00:52:11.960 You're, you're proving the point.

00:52:14.120 Like I said before, Lil Tay, she should make $20 million on OnlyFans, come knocking on Bryson's

00:52:20.360 door and say, hey, hey, hey, Bryson, I've cleaned up my Instagram.

00:52:25.720 You know, I'm good to go.

00:52:27.800 And you would be like, okay, sure.

00:52:29.720 Come on in.

00:52:31.160 So Lil Tay should-

00:52:32.360 Wait, can you answer my question?

00:52:32.840 I know you want to-

00:52:34.840 The OnlyFans right now make her money, because why not?

00:52:38.600 Hey, I know you want to deflect.

00:52:39.880 I know you want to deflect.

00:52:41.560 Jess probably thinks that I defended her Instagram.

00:52:43.400 My question is, did I still say it's wrong?

00:52:46.120 Did I say that it's improving, but it's still wrong?

00:52:48.440 Did I say that?

00:52:49.240 Yes or no?

00:52:50.120 But why even have the improving?

00:52:52.120 Like, why do you need that?

00:52:53.800 Like, oh, you're-

00:52:54.440 Because it shows progress, because biblically people have to go to a stage of progression.

00:52:59.320 I'm not saying she should be allowed.

00:53:00.360 Wait, I'm not saying she should be allowed.

00:53:01.720 She should go through 10 to 15 years of progression.

00:53:04.120 That's what we're saying.

00:53:04.920 But you're talking trash about the timeline.

00:53:07.800 10, 15 years of progression, minimum.

00:53:11.000 So this was funny, right?

00:53:12.440 Just probably things made a claim.

00:53:13.800 I debunked her claim and asked you to confirm it.

00:53:15.800 You were scared to confirm it, because you know you're not making sense.

00:53:17.800 And then even when just probably things rethought about it and realized she was wrong,

00:53:21.000 she said, well, why even bring up the improvement?

00:53:23.400 Never was there an act of accountability.

00:53:26.520 No, I think you're just kind of playing semantics.

00:53:28.680 I like you, Bryson, but this is kind of semantics.

00:53:31.800 You're the one making the claim.

00:53:33.560 You said I defended something.

00:53:34.840 I didn't say I defended something.

00:53:36.200 It's not semantics if you make the claim, but then when I check you-

00:53:38.840 The church now is the last stop on the horror train.

00:53:44.120 And Bryson's taking the tickets to the people getting off the train.

00:53:49.240 I literally called out stuff more than both of you combined.

00:53:54.120 Literally, this is what I'm known for.

00:53:55.880 Y'all just don't like that I'm coming and talking from an objective perspective.

00:53:59.160 And then, but this just showed me something.

00:54:01.800 One thing y'all are correct about, and just probably things the same way,

00:54:05.080 is women do not take accountability.

00:54:07.320 I agree with that 100%.

00:54:08.600 All right.

00:54:09.480 All right.

00:54:09.800 Well, thanks for calling in Bryson.

00:54:11.720 Call in any time.

00:54:12.680 All right.

00:54:13.720 Yes, sir.

00:54:14.600 All right.

00:54:15.080 See you.

00:54:16.520 All right.

00:54:17.000 Steve M says the next caller, Kevin Samuels covers this topic on his video,

00:54:22.520 Christian feminism, and it's a problem.

00:54:24.840 Most guys are leaving the church because no man wants to wife up Jezebel.

00:54:30.520 The attorney says, Christ ain't paying no bills.

00:54:35.480 I didn't think that was going to turn into a debate, to be honest.

00:54:38.840 I didn't realize that.

00:54:39.720 That was my fault.

00:54:40.440 I got on here and had to ask them certain questions.

00:54:43.800 Because remember, Pearl, we talked about if a woman turned 18 and said, look,

00:54:49.000 you know, I want a career in media.

00:54:50.920 I want to make some money, right?

00:54:54.040 Start an OF.

00:54:55.160 Why not?

00:54:55.800 This is, I mean, he kind of proved our point, to be honest.

00:54:59.320 He didn't realize, I don't know if he didn't realize it or what, but I'm like,

00:55:02.760 you're just proving that they should actually be the OnlyFans.

00:55:07.000 Think about this.

00:55:07.640 Yeah.

00:55:08.040 Lil Tay, she's already made a million dollars.

00:55:12.840 She probably hasn't even done anything adult related yet.

00:55:16.200 But if she were to go full-fledged Nala, she could be worth 15 to 20 million dollars

00:55:22.920 by the time she's 26.

00:55:24.520 And then she could say, hey, Tradcons, I've repented and still have a successful media career.

00:55:31.560 And still find some church sent to marry her and have kids with.

00:55:37.560 The plan is laid out.

00:55:39.080 It's already there.

00:55:39.720 Am I wrong?

00:55:41.080 No, I don't know why you wouldn't do it.

00:55:42.520 I mean, like from a logical point of view.

00:55:47.880 So.

00:55:50.040 Sorry.

00:55:51.240 Guys, put him one.

00:55:52.840 I just couldn't believe I was like, how is it not defending her if you're saying her Instagram's

00:55:57.720 better?

00:55:58.200 Like that's.

00:55:58.760 I know.

00:55:59.320 She shouldn't have an Instagram at all.

00:56:00.920 Is she serious?

00:56:01.640 I know.

00:56:02.280 I know.

00:56:02.600 But I was like, I don't want to go back and forth.

00:56:04.280 He's going to be like, is it a fact?

00:56:05.720 Is it better?

00:56:06.280 I'm like, I guess, technically, but I don't like, why would you even?

00:56:09.720 Like, I was going to say that's the equivalent of a pedo and then say, oh, he does it less now.

00:56:15.240 I'm like, uh, like, you know, that's how I would do it.

00:56:20.600 And I like your position where you say, I'm supposed to just believe a whore that's whored

00:56:26.360 for 10, 15 years.

00:56:27.960 And she says she's Christian now.

00:56:29.800 Yeah, I don't.

00:56:31.160 Like we don't have to believe it.

00:56:32.920 I don't have to.

00:56:34.440 The whole concept of repenting and that's why I'm not religious.

00:56:39.480 I try to be the best person I can be because I believe and be a good person.

00:56:45.080 Yeah.

00:56:45.560 I don't have to repent because I've never done anything crazy.

00:56:49.240 Like you open up an OF and make freaking $15 million.

00:56:53.000 I've never done it.

00:56:54.680 Guys, women shouldn't do that, period.

00:56:58.440 If you want to give all this credit to women who've done it and have changed all of a sudden,

00:57:03.240 you want the same credit in the church of a woman repenting from OF as a woman who's never

00:57:09.160 done it in the first place?

00:57:10.600 That doesn't rock with me at all.

00:57:11.880 No way.

00:57:12.440 Nope.

00:57:12.760 Well, I guess this is a good segue into I did not think that was going to be a full

00:57:20.680 pledge debate.

00:57:21.560 My bad.

00:57:22.920 But that's my fault.

00:57:24.520 I started I started asking questions to take it down that way.

00:57:27.960 So I'm hoping hoping Bryson doesn't take it the wrong way.

00:57:30.520 No, he won't.

00:57:31.240 He's a good guy.

00:57:31.960 He's he is.

00:57:33.080 He's cool.

00:57:33.560 No, he's not like that.

00:57:35.400 Like he's not he's not the crash out type.

00:57:38.600 And if he does, he he'll just come back on.

00:57:40.920 And yeah, go ahead.

00:57:45.000 Sorry for just barging in.

00:57:47.480 I got to get on the line about this little tape thing, because I remember we were talking about

00:57:53.880 if a woman is young and she wants a career in media and she wants to make real money, why not?

00:58:01.800 Yeah, you take out morals.

00:58:04.040 Shit.

00:58:05.560 Apparently you can get morals later.

00:58:09.000 Yeah.

00:58:10.920 Guys, put a one in the chat if you think that Lil Tay should do an OF and then repent later,

00:58:17.800 or two if she should do it at all.

00:58:20.120 In fact, can we put a poll in the chat?

00:58:22.280 Yeah, it's such BS because they don't even tell her to pay the money back.

00:58:26.680 Like it's such BS.

00:58:27.560 So she gets five million dollars and I get nothing because I did.

00:58:31.240 Like, do you know what I can make on OnlyFans and I have to have morals?

00:58:34.600 It's like bullshit.

00:58:39.240 I got I got a stream every day.

00:58:40.920 I could have just sold pictures in my butthole.

00:58:42.840 I'm just kidding. I like being here, guys. I prefer this. All right. All right. I'm going to watch this video.

00:58:52.040 Guys, before we do that, like the video. Please subscribe to the channel if you haven't already.

00:58:58.920 We are on our way to three million. I think we're almost at 27,000 over two million. So thank you for

00:59:05.240 sharing the videos and subscribing. Thanks for all the Super Chats. All of the Super Chats go to the

00:59:10.920 Divorce documentary and I want to say just real fast. Thank you to everyone in the Audacity chat because I

00:59:19.640 want to keep shouting them out. One one second. One second. One second.

00:59:24.680 Oh, yeah. Right now I can't see the Audacity chat because this look, guys, this is going to be fixed soon, but I

00:59:31.000 need to get a new computer. So one second, one second, one second. And I want to thank everyone in the Audacity chat.

00:59:37.560 I want to thank Robert, Robert, William, Steve. Thank you for being in the Audacity chat. Guys,

00:59:45.880 make sure to go to the Audacity Network dot com to join Pearl's network. We'd love to have you over

00:59:51.080 there. You get unlimited Super Chats because Pearl will read any chat you put if you put Pearl

00:59:57.080 Reed in front of it in the Audacity chat. Anyway, so go ahead. Cool. Can you text me if there's Pearl

01:00:02.920 Reed there because the thing is off right now? There's nothing there yet. OK, cool. All right.

01:00:10.360 We're going to so guys, we're going to react to some. I just thought we would, you know, listen to

01:00:15.640 more women whining about not having to work and staying home with kids. We complain about everything.

01:00:24.200 My God. And it's reignited an age old conversation about what it means to be a good wife. We just spoke

01:00:34.200 with two trad wives and a trad wife in training. And our next guests are being candid about how

01:00:40.440 trad wife failed them. Jenny Gage is revealing how living for two decades inside a Mormon marriage

01:00:46.360 as a trad wife left her feeling out of control and penniless. Anitia Templeton says her 10 years

01:00:53.000 as a trad wife were miserable and unfulfilling. And now both women are speaking out to as they want

01:00:59.160 other young women, especially to avoid similar situations. Take a look. Being a trad wife means

01:01:06.520 returning to traditional goals, traditional times, traditional life, traditional gender roles. The man

01:01:13.880 is the breadwinner. Oh my gosh, she looks crazy. She looks insane. And so your husband has authority

01:01:22.760 over you. Whether or not I was rich or poor literally depended on how pretty I was and how good I was at

01:01:31.880 doing those things that men wanted women to do from the kitchen to the bedroom. So exactly why you notice

01:01:38.760 you never see trad wives in their 40s advocating for that life. You can

01:01:43.400 discredit this by calling me whatever you want bitter, jealous. Okay. So what happens is women

01:01:50.120 and men are cutting a deal. Men want

01:01:55.160 sex. They want women's youth. They want their fertility. They want her to be hot. Okay. I know

01:02:02.040 there's personality, whatever, but let's, let's just say women want men's genetic material and resources.

01:02:09.320 And what happens is women, there are women that cut deals young, right? So they, they trade in their

01:02:15.880 youth and they trade in their fertility and they cut a deal with a guy young women that cut that made a

01:02:22.440 bad deal. So they cut a deal with a guy that they realized wasn't alpha. I hate using that word, but I got

01:02:29.000 to, or he wasn't, you know, the guy she wanted, or maybe she saw our friends get a better guy or,

01:02:35.320 you know, it's support men. We don't even treat you guys like people. I'm so sorry. It's just,

01:02:39.960 you know, I'm just, I'm telling you how it is in girl world. Women ultimately want to do whatever

01:02:45.560 they want and they want to have sex with the hot guy. So by doing the traditional thing, women are

01:02:52.120 giving up doing whatever they want. And in exchange, they want the hot guy. That's what they're hoping to

01:02:57.960 get out of it. Um, unfortunately that's not really the archetype in the tradition. Like I hate to say

01:03:05.720 this, but the traditional guy, um, people always say they look get it. And I'm, I know it's partially

01:03:11.880 a shaming tactic, but it's also cause a lot of them aren't taught frame in the church is, uh, we kind

01:03:17.960 of saw cause it's just like women rule. We kind of, you know, saw by the earlier conversation. Um, not all,

01:03:24.440 not all, some of the guys are good looking and masculine, but usually, you know, for,

01:03:29.080 you know how it is in any social group, there's a few women that win, there's some that lose.

01:03:33.720 So maybe she depicts a guy she thinks is going to be a winner and not a winner.

01:03:37.640 And there's nothing women hate more than spending their youth and their fertility on a guy that does,

01:03:44.280 and she doesn't get what she wants out of it. And women that don't get what they want out of the

01:03:49.400 interaction. They'll make you pay either through reputation destruction. Um, you'll, you'll see

01:03:53.960 Diddy like Cassie and Diddy. She gave him her best years. Um, and in exchange, I don't know what the

01:03:59.960 hell she wanted, but maybe she thought she'd be a bigger celebrity. Um, she'd get commitment out of

01:04:05.640 him long-term. I don't know, but, um, she didn't get what she wanted. Now she's making him pay monetarily.

01:04:12.520 And so these women, they're just bad business women, right? And if you want to say it that way,

01:04:17.640 I know you guys believe in love, but we don't believe in love. We're in business. So, um,

01:04:22.840 this, these are women that took bad deals. Like Lauren Southern's another one. She really could

01:04:29.080 have, she could have won and she could have won with someone pretty attractive. Um, and by the way,

01:04:34.120 when I say the hot guys, hot guys is not necessarily being just good looking. It's an attitude, right?

01:04:39.880 It's, um, I mean, we all know that fat guy that always has hot women. Some guys just have that,

01:04:45.400 you know, that swagger, you know, we, that we love. Um, so these are women bitching because they

01:04:53.160 didn't get a good end of the bargain even. And by the way, we're not logical. So I, some of these,

01:04:59.880 they might talk and you might think she had a pretty good deal. That's coming from a male

01:05:03.800 point of view women. It's like, am I having fun? Um, is he hot and exciting? And did I get the genetic

01:05:13.800 material and the resources that's like female, but men are so much more logical that men,

01:05:20.440 it's so interesting. Whenever you hear men talking about what, like that, that guy's a better guy.

01:05:26.040 They always do it from the male lens and it's pretty much always money and productivity,

01:05:30.120 but women don't care about that. That's why we sleep with criminals.

01:05:34.520 This is just one woman with some experience. I hope that you'll remember a man is not a plan.

01:05:40.280 I never was. Your finances should not depend on somebody being in love with you. That's just not

01:05:46.920 a secure bet. The marriage is over and you're staying for the kids and all that's doing is

01:05:50.840 setting a horrible example for them. So I am that example for you. You, you can leave,

01:05:55.240 you can make it and you can be way happier than you are right now. Wow.

01:05:59.160 Please welcome Anitia Templeton here in our studio. Jenny Gates is in her home in Tucson, Arizona. Ladies,

01:06:05.560 thank you both for joining us. So our first half of our show,

01:06:07.640 where the young women who are now entrenched in whether you call it a homemaker or a trad wife,

01:06:15.560 you hit something on the head, I feel. And you see in that video, you said you don't see women

01:06:19.800 in their forties advocating this lifestyle. We know that there are obviously, but you were making the

01:06:24.360 point of maybe some of the younger women doing this don't understand the long-term damage, what you

01:06:31.880 see as damage. Oh, absolutely. Of course, it's fun to make paper and crayons and do crafts with your kids.

01:06:38.120 Of course, but life comes eventually. This is, that's not sustainable. Your kids are going to go

01:06:43.320 to school. Life is going to continue. And then what are you going to do when you build your whole life

01:06:47.400 around toddlers and babies? What, what, where does your life go from there? You, I don't know, productive

01:06:53.400 people will always find something to do. So usually these are just lazy women. They're like, what do you

01:06:58.680 mean you don't have anything to do? There's always something to do. Like I'm looking around this room. It's a mess.

01:07:02.920 It's my own fault. I could sort equipment. I could like, I'm trying to learn the splits right now.

01:07:11.720 Like there's always something to do. You know what I mean?

01:07:13.880 You were in a trad wife lifestyle for 10 years. You said you felt like sitting prey.

01:07:18.760 Yes. What does that mean? Like I procreated with somebody that wasn't worth what I spent.

01:07:25.480 Like a pet, you know how you have like a pet hamster, a pet gerbil. You can't let them out

01:07:31.320 because if they run across the floor, they could get hurt. You know, they're so tender and fragile,

01:07:35.720 but they're also at such risk. They're, they're so fragile. They're so, they need you for everything.

01:07:40.840 You have to feed them what, you know, you have to do everything. And that's exactly how you are

01:07:43.800 as a trad wife. You don't have your own income. You don't even have your own thoughts. You can't,

01:07:48.120 you know, it's, it's his choices is what's, what are his favorite foods? You can cook his favorite

01:07:51.880 dinner. What are they? And so you don't even know what foods you like anymore. After 10 years,

01:07:57.480 I couldn't even pick out toothpaste at the grocery store. I would go and think,

01:08:00.760 oh, well he liked this one. Which one should I get? You know, you lose that ability to make decisions.

01:08:05.560 Jenny, you have photos of when you were married. You say that you don't recognize yourself in those

01:08:11.240 photos. There was always a pressure to look perfect and pretty for your husband. And when the

01:08:16.520 marriage ended. What on earth? She used to be hot. Oh my God. She hit the wall so hard.

01:08:23.400 I see why she's pissed. I see why she's pissed. Oh my God. She's hotter than I ever was. Oh my,

01:08:33.000 you know, this is a good thing about being a mid, right? And maybe you guys don't think,

01:08:37.720 I think she's quite pretty, like a seven. I'd put her at a seven. But that's the thing when you're mid,

01:08:44.680 what opportunity did you really miss? Do you know what I mean? Like,

01:08:52.920 you know what? It's not like you missed, but if you look like that, yeah, she's going to be pissed.

01:09:00.120 And now she comes out looking like that. Yeah. She's cooked.

01:09:05.240 And when the marriage ended, you were without an income. You were penniless. You had to,

01:09:11.160 I think at one point even sleep. Oh no, this is the other one. Oh my gosh. But yeah,

01:09:15.800 she's fat now. Carb because you left with nothing. Yeah. And I, I feel sometimes like

01:09:21.560 I'm ignorant. She was still Christmas because this child by flight looks amazing. Who is paying

01:09:26.760 for this house? This is a nice looking house. And it's probably her ex-husband, 24 years. Yeah.

01:09:33.320 Ex-husband. 24 years. I had all of those benefits of the amazing part of it. Being home with my kids

01:09:38.840 and the sourdough bread and play dates and going to the park with my children when they were young

01:09:43.560 and all of those things. But 24 years into that, my trad wife life ended very roughly. And within

01:09:51.960 three days, I couldn't pay for groceries at Trader Joe's. Within a couple of months,

01:09:57.320 I was sleeping in my car. I couldn't afford to put gas in the car. I was asking friends. Literally,

01:10:03.480 I just had friends giving me $20 bills and going to go spend for me so that I could just buy groceries

01:10:08.440 and survive. Were you right? Jenny, how did, how did this track? Okay. But

01:10:16.280 what do Doug MPA, can you look up and put in the chat, how much can you make as like a housekeeper?

01:10:25.320 Because if you were a trad wife or personal chef, I don't know, like, aren't there skills daycare

01:10:30.520 worker? My sister works at a daycare. Couldn't she do that? These are, I would think these are

01:10:36.040 transferable skills. So why? If you work as a house cleaner, you can make $42,000 a year.

01:10:45.240 That's not bad. Working at a daycare, how much can you make at a daycare?

01:10:52.440 And then a daycare worker full time. So they make about $17 an hour. But if you own a daycare,

01:11:06.200 you can make about $50,000 to $60,000 a year. Okay. Yeah. I'm like, they just always say they're

01:11:13.320 left like high and dry, but it seems like some of those skills would be transferable. Like my brother's

01:11:19.560 wife, she just wants to, she's an engineer full time. And she went to culinary school for fun

01:11:24.360 for like three months. And here's the thing. She's like, oh, I was left penniless and I couldn't afford.

01:11:31.480 It was 24 years later. Your kids are out of the house. Like what? Yeah. Why didn't you work? You

01:11:38.280 could get a job. Or even if, even if you had to start over, I mean, you don't have kids to feed,

01:11:46.680 you know, get a job, get an apartment, move on with your life. How many guys get kicked out of

01:11:51.560 their house? And they're having to pay for their wife's attorney to divorce them. What's that meme

01:11:57.400 where it says a lot of men's lives start right here. And it's just a studio apartment with a

01:12:03.000 mattress on the ground. Yeah. Men are happy to be in that environment, but women, oh my God, I don't

01:12:10.440 have anything left and blah, blah, blah. You see the difference in mindset? Yeah. Go ahead. No, nothing.

01:12:17.800 I agree. Mentality become a part of the decision you made as a wife early on. Were you raised in an

01:12:24.680 environment where these roles were clear in this way? I have the two hashtags. I have ex-trad and ex-mormon.

01:12:34.520 So I was raised in a culture that very traditionally, you were raised in a Mormon now. Okay.

01:12:41.880 The reason religion tells women to get married young, right? Is because obviously if we don't do

01:12:49.320 that society crumbles and destabilizes and it's terrible. Um, if we become worse, but women's

01:12:56.600 naturally inclin inclination is just to be complete the real force, obviously. So what happens is these

01:13:03.800 women, they don't, you know, she was hot back in the day. She didn't realize the buying power she had,

01:13:09.960 especially in the modern marketplace. She was like a 20 something year old Mormon girl.

01:13:15.000 You know, she could have had decent buying power. It basically, she's not happy with what she bought.

01:13:22.200 Whatever husband she got, I don't know what she, for whatever reason is not happy with what she bought.

01:13:27.640 She wishes she used her, her youth on herself instead of on her family. I'm not saying that's right,

01:13:34.200 but I'm saying that's, you know, womanese for this family.

01:13:37.880 I was very devoutly Mormon. So I knew from the time I was like five years old when I wrote a little paper,

01:13:43.720 literally kindergarten saying that I wanted to be an anchor man like my dad. And then I was told,

01:13:49.080 you're going to go up and be a mom. I knew that at some point I was going to get married and have babies.

01:13:55.240 Also, if you guys could like the video, it'd be good to, I'd love to break 600 likes in here.

01:14:00.920 Stay home and cook and clean and decorate the house and all those things that I've seen my mom do.

01:14:05.640 That was really the only option that I was offered in life.

01:14:08.520 What made you decide, I saw your story in an article, what made you decide to, I know you're not

01:14:14.280 comfortable with saying anti-trad wife, but what made you decide to ring the alarm from your perspective

01:14:21.560 of the damage this type of gender role assignment trad wife trend can cause.

01:14:28.520 I think that it's something that we're embarrassed to talk about as women. And I know that when I was

01:14:34.040 going through it, I was embarrassed to even tell my friends that I didn't have any money,

01:14:38.360 that the alimony wasn't being paid, that child support wasn't being collected, that I didn't have,

01:14:43.800 I thought that I could go out and even get any job that I wanted to because I had all of these

01:14:47.880 domestic labor skills that I thought could translate into career.

01:14:50.920 Pearl, pause that real fast. I found this People article, so she, this woman got married in 1995

01:14:59.960 and got divorced a year ago. So she's literally just, she literally just got out here just now.

01:15:12.040 Well, she's doing her divorce rebrand, so. How long do you think it's going to take

01:15:19.640 you to realize how rough these streets are out here? She won't ever realize it. You don't think so?

01:15:25.880 Nope. Women, no, women would rather be prostitutes and homeless than be straddled down with a guy they

01:15:33.080 don't like. Women never regret leaving men ever. They just, the only reason they go back is to see if they

01:15:39.800 can get resources from you. Once women are done, we're done. And we're trained to be like that

01:15:44.840 because historically you were dead. So we had to go bang the next guy.

01:15:50.680 What do you think about Tyrese's ex-wife? Remember she tried to say that, you know,

01:15:55.320 she realized that she messed up and if she was around different women at the time, if she would

01:16:00.200 have got away from her mom and her sisters, she never would have left them. And what do you think

01:16:04.360 about that type of thing? I don't believe her. I don't, I think your actions, you know,

01:16:12.200 because while she was saying that she was raking him through the coals in divorce court.

01:16:16.120 And he's like crying because of all the alimony. Like, come on, your actions would,

01:16:19.960 if you really wanted to reconcile, you would, you like, if you really wanted to reconcile,

01:16:24.680 you would go over there. You would say, I realized I was wrong. I'm sorry for putting you on alimony.

01:16:29.400 I'm going to drop the court case. You know, her actions would match it, but you're crying on a

01:16:33.720 podcast. Now you get the out of here. Like you're crying. You want to reconcile with your ex-husband

01:16:41.160 and instead of actually, cause men are so nice. You know what I mean? Like, imagine if she was

01:16:45.960 just really nice to him. She said, sorry, and was really nice and tried to win him back for like three

01:16:51.320 years. I'm not saying it would work. She might've done too much damage, but a lot of men would fold a

01:16:59.080 lot. I mean, they've never had a girl work for them ever, you know, um, maybe not him cause he's

01:17:04.760 famous, but that's my opinion. What do you think? Are you there? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think

01:17:15.800 everything you're saying is a hundred percent correct. You're right. You got me. Yeah. So it's

01:17:21.960 like, do you know what I mean? Like, why doesn't she try to reconcile, you know, you never know what an

01:17:26.280 apology will do. Like if your actions match, go ahead. At least she could do. Cause even

01:17:31.080 Kevin Samuels on a couple of his shows said, look, uh, drop, drop the child support,

01:17:38.120 go to the court and get rid of the child support as a gesture of goodwill. And a lot of women,

01:17:43.320 they wouldn't do it. She could, yeah, Tyrese's wife, she could literally fly out to him,

01:17:48.760 try to have a conversation, you know, drop the lawsuit at the minimum, drop the lawsuit.

01:17:55.000 Cause she has two lawyers coming after him. Yeah, you're right. I agree with you a hundred percent.

01:17:59.880 You got me. Yeah. Like if I, I mean, have you ever had a, I don't know if you've ever had a woman try

01:18:04.360 to reconcile, but your ego is gone. If you try to do that, like, it's like, okay, what do you need

01:18:09.560 me to do? Like, that's, that's the type of time when you're sorry and you really want to make something

01:18:14.280 work. That's the type of time you're on. You're like front door, back door, back door, whatever

01:18:22.920 you want, baby. Do you, how many meals do you want? Like it's on, it's begging time.

01:18:28.760 What, what is, what is alpha male strategy saying? You better, you better get on your knees and start eating ass.

01:18:45.480 An apology isn't enough. They start eating ass for a little while. That's what they gotta do.

01:18:51.080 Yeah. Yeah. So when you start eating ass, I'll believe you're sorry.

01:19:05.320 Okay. Let me play the rest. I'm getting called back. My first job was $11 in an hour. And as I

01:19:11.160 walked through it, I looked around and it's like, I know that this other woman's going through this

01:19:15.960 and my sister's going through this. And I knew that there were other people and we were just

01:19:21.240 too embarrassed to say anything about it. So one day, I honestly, I should point out that

01:19:27.640 you've been sharing your story. We did have to legally reach out to your husband. He denies things

01:19:33.320 that have been said on social media platforms. He says he provided alimony payments, final settlement,

01:19:39.160 and is currently up to date on his child support payments. But separate from the finances of it,

01:19:44.520 you, as you point out, I found an article with her story. You want to go through it real fast or

01:19:50.520 now? Uh, sure. Yes. It's what do I always say about the, um, the female friendly version of the story

01:20:00.120 Pearl? What's the female friendly version of the story? He was abusive and she was also the, um,

01:20:06.200 like victim. Like he was abusive and she's also the hero. So she like overcame the abuse and go to the

01:20:14.040 tab. Click on that. Okay. Why a mom of five gave up, wait, hold on.

01:20:21.880 Okay. Why a mom of five gave up her marriage to start over at 44 now challenges viral trad wives

01:20:29.160 everywhere. A man is not a plan. Jeannie George says your financial future and your children's

01:20:33.960 financial stability should not be dependent on your husband loving you. Um, Jeannie Gage has built up a

01:20:39.640 large social media following under the name, um, life takes two, because she feels like she's doing

01:20:44.520 her life all over again. Okay. Let me see. She was pretty attractive back in the day. I see why she's pissed.

01:20:52.920 At 44, she says she opted out of a more traditional religious conservative world.

01:20:57.640 She had built for her, for herself as a wife and a mom of five and had to start over. Now gauge 50 of Tuscan,

01:21:02.920 Arizona speaks speaks openly about her experience before and after stop stopping being a self-described

01:21:09.880 trad wife for 24 years. I was under stress. Gage tells people only in hindsight. Can I say that raising

01:21:16.840 five babies under the age of 10, um, my hair falling out for my anxiety, but on the outside,

01:21:22.040 it looked so good. Gage is outspoken against the traditional lifestyle that has become increasingly

01:21:27.080 popular and controversial on social media platforms, featuring women in domestic settings,

01:21:32.040 embracing the homemaker label, right down to milling their own wheat for bread. Supporters

01:21:37.160 say trad wife content, um, just expresses a particular set of conservative values and is not

01:21:42.920 unlike so many social media posts about cooking and parenting. And many observers have noted some

01:21:48.440 popular influencers associated with the trend have been clear about how they keep an equal

01:21:52.280 partnership with their spouses, regardless of how it looks. Um, my kids were all beautiful. Oh,

01:21:59.320 wait, here's a little thing of her talking. Let's see. Can you imagine your mom's just,

01:22:04.840 I drove to the grocery store. I need to grab some milk and bread and a couple of things,

01:22:08.600 flipped open the, wait, hold up. I'm going to go full screen. Can you imagine your mom's just like

01:22:15.160 talking about your dad on social media? I know that does happen on Facebook and stuff, but I drove to

01:22:22.360 the grocery store at this video by saying that I'm not asking for many and I'm not asking for sympathy.

01:22:27.240 What I'm asking for is if you are a young 14, 16, 21 year old girl, listen up. I drove to the

01:22:33.320 grocery store. I need to grab some milk and bread and a couple of things, flipped open the

01:22:37.080 pink app on my phone. And I've been sitting in my car crying ever since because I never have enough

01:22:45.640 money. And why do I never have enough translation? Because I spend too much.

01:22:50.120 If she's crying, she's lying. Yeah. Because when I was a 19 year old girl,

01:22:57.880 I fell in love. My Mormon faith told me that I was supposed to be a stay at home mom. I got married.

01:23:02.920 I started having babies. I dropped out of college. I never had a career. My only jobs that I ever had

01:23:08.200 in life were a waitress at the olive garden and managing a pretzel maker in a mall. So my first couple

01:23:14.920 years of marriage, I decided that I wanted to be an entrepreneur. So I bought a windshield business.

01:23:18.920 I was 20 and my Mormon state president reminded me that women weren't supposed to work. So I quit

01:23:27.000 my own business, handed it over to my husband, took my name off of it. I would work our family business

01:23:32.520 throughout the next 24 years of my marriage, but I never got paid. I didn't have a salary. My name

01:23:38.120 wasn't on it. I literally worked for room and board. That's it. I would eventually. So translation, um,

01:23:48.360 I took a, a bad deal in hindsight, right? I'm not saying I just objectively, like if you're doing,

01:23:58.920 you could argue that's not a favorable deal and I'm upset. And two, I probably didn't do as good of a

01:24:05.240 job as I thought. I probably am given, my husband probably did most of it.

01:24:11.800 Also launch a custom home building company with my uncle is the architect and my friends is the

01:24:17.800 builder, my designs, my realtor. But again, because my husband was the man, um, his name was on all of

01:24:26.920 the projects. His name was on the business. I remember one of the last custom homes that I built,

01:24:31.880 we sold it and made about a $260,000 profit. That money all went into his bank account. I didn't

01:24:38.120 even have a bank account. I should have said that in the beginning. I never had a bank account. He

01:24:42.600 would give me little envelopes of cash to go grocery shopping with. Anyway, that house sells,

01:24:46.600 the money goes in the bank. Um, I just asked if I could buy myself a piano with the money.

01:24:53.080 I had worked on building that house for two years. All of the money went into his bank account.

01:24:57.800 Nothing was under my name. I got a piano and I got a free house to live in and I got groceries.

01:25:04.920 So I found myself divorced at age 44, just five years ago. And within just a few months,

01:25:08.360 I was living in my car while he made about a quarter million dollars. He would eventually quit

01:25:14.040 that job so that he wouldn't have to pay alimony and child support. He has only paid alimony one time

01:25:18.920 ever in the five years since we've been divorced once ever. Right after my divorce, I remember being

01:25:23.960 really confident about my ability to get a job. So I put together a resume. Um, I remember one of

01:25:29.880 the first interviews that I had was management position for a windshield company, similar to the

01:25:34.840 one that we had run. And the man actually laughing as he was interviewing me. Like he was really

01:25:41.480 sympathetic. He wasn't being interviewed. You weren't interviewing well. And so you're going to just

01:25:45.880 blame it on that. But he was laughing and he's like, so let me get this straight. You helped manage

01:25:54.200 your family windshield business with your husband, but you were mostly a stay at home mom. And all you

01:25:58.120 did was like the marketing and the hiring and firing and some of the strategy for the business.

01:26:03.880 But it became really apparent that I needed so many more skills to have any type of management job.

01:26:08.840 I couldn't even like work the basic computers. Well then go manage a daycare. Do you know what

01:26:13.640 I mean? It's like, like women will cry and men will just figure out a different solution. If you

01:26:18.040 have the skills, you'll figure it out. He told me in the interview, please don't apply for any more

01:26:22.600 jobs like this. You are not qualified at all. You're not capable of doing this unless you go back to

01:26:27.080 school and get your degree or get some different experience. And so I ended up my first job after my

01:26:32.360 divorce was $11 an hour, four hours a day working as translation. I was hoping my husband would pay

01:26:40.120 for my lifestyle the rest of my life while I bang other dudes. And it's not working out the way that

01:26:44.520 I thought teacher in an elementary school. I made $44 a day for 24 years. I lived in million dollar homes.

01:26:52.760 I vacationed all over the world. I spent my summers in Hawaii. Oh my God. Why would you give that up?

01:26:57.880 That's what I'm saying. What did she leave for? Like if you're going to give that up,

01:27:02.520 how do I put it? Do you know who made sense to leave her husband?

01:27:07.480 Sarah Palin. She upgraded to a baseball player and I'm not saying that's right,

01:27:11.880 but I'm saying like that kind of makes sense because she was still in shape. She's still kind

01:27:15.240 of hot, you know, like there, there's going to be a buyer there. Who's going to buy this? She's fat.

01:27:23.720 Like if you're going to divorce your husband, do it in shape. Like I'm not saying that you

01:27:27.560 should, but like, if we want to go best outcomes here, why would you not be in shape? You know what

01:27:33.160 I mean? Or, or even worse than that Pearl, she's committing the cardinal sin right now. What is

01:27:38.600 she doing? Talking on social media. She's airing out her business with her ex on social media.

01:27:44.840 If she had those wifey skills and she kept their mouth shut, she could have found another guy.

01:27:51.640 Yeah, that's true. Guys can sense it. There are plenty of, especially she's in, she, she's turned

01:27:58.920 50. She can find a guy who's 60, 65, uh, has as much money, if not more than her. She could have

01:28:07.320 pulled a Lauren Sanchez if she were in decent shape and didn't do this because this is the worst thing

01:28:13.320 a woman can do on the way out is this right here. Yeah. Yeah. I could buy myself $500 jeans,

01:28:22.360 diamond tennis bracelets. We had boats and RVs and whatever I wanted. And it never bothered me once

01:28:29.400 that my financial security was dependent on that man being in love with me. I never realized that him

01:28:35.800 liking me or not liking me or finding me sexy or attractive or interesting, determined whether or

01:28:41.800 not my children could eat, whether or not I could buy myself a fucking jug of milk and a loaf of bread.

01:28:47.720 So I had my fifth surgery in two years, two weeks ago, and I'm supposed to be in bed

01:28:54.680 resting and I can't because I worked seven days a week since my divorce five years ago, which is why

01:29:00.440 I'm covered in paint and looking like crap. We actually have a- Wow. She should have stayed married.

01:29:08.040 That cannot be a better way to live. Will she try to reconcile? No.

01:29:13.960 40 weekend here in- You know what I mean? Like women will say they want to reconcile,

01:29:18.280 but all they'll do is send a text. You know what I mean? All they'll do is send a message like,

01:29:22.520 I miss you. If you really wanted to reconcile, you'd start eating ass.

01:29:27.240 Like we said, do you know what I mean? Like you, we would like, that's what I mean. Like,

01:29:32.920 cause a lot of times guys, you know, they'll be like, women always come back and they do,

01:29:38.600 but like, do they like, or do they come in like really trying to win it? Or is it just,

01:29:44.840 can I still get attention from you? Do you know what I mean? It's like,

01:29:47.720 I don't know. It's like, she really needs to get on her knees. Beg. Beg. What would you,

01:29:57.800 what would you recommend Doug MPA if your ex-wife came back? And I know this is unlikely. Is there a

01:30:06.600 world, what would she have to do to get you back that you would believe her?

01:30:11.080 It wouldn't happen. The way that things ended between her and I, no. And the behavior that she

01:30:21.000 showed isn't the type that'll go away. Like she, she's going to be doing that. Cause I think she's

01:30:27.400 remarried now. She can be doing that to the same guy, but he just willing to deal with it. And I

01:30:31.320 wasn't, so there's no scenario. No way. You know what I asked Nuke if that's like, um,

01:30:37.560 exhausting. Like when you watch women be terrible people and still win. And he told me that he said,

01:30:47.000 no, because you know, that they're just never going to be happy people. And they're just going

01:30:52.040 to keep on with their patterns. So you don't care. You're going to meet people where they may screw

01:30:57.000 you over or do something to you, but, uh, it's hard to even be mad at them because they have to live

01:31:03.880 their life and be themselves. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's what he said. He was like,

01:31:08.040 yeah. Like they're just going to, they probably can and will get a better guy,

01:31:12.520 but I don't care because like you are who you are, you know? Yep. I agree with them a hundred

01:31:17.000 percent. Yeah. Your son. And since my partner isn't working, he's working on furniture flip.

01:31:21.560 Okay. I'm good. I'm done with this tick tock. I'm going to go back to the article.

01:31:25.960 Just real quick. Before you get to the person article, why do you think that she left her husband?

01:31:31.480 Try and guess. Is it going to be abuse? No. Like, well, that's what she'd say. Um,

01:31:39.320 she needed to find herself. He was cheating. Oh, we'll get to it. It's an article.

01:31:47.880 My kids were all beautiful and accomplished and it looked like they were the perfect life. Instead

01:31:51.640 of saying this isn't working, look how beautiful this is. I was gaslighting myself. At an early age,

01:31:56.520 the Arizona native took a caregiving role role for her younger siblings. She says, she says being a

01:32:02.920 member of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints, put added pressure on her to marry early

01:32:09.240 and bear a large family and being selected for all eternity until her marriage vows to her ex-husband,

01:32:15.320 Jason greed, add added an extra layer to their relationship. Gage says a mutual friend set them

01:32:20.920 up on a blind date telling her we have returned missionary friend. We have a returned missionary

01:32:26.520 friend. You should marry. That date was in June. And on their 11th date, within six weeks of meeting,

01:32:31.640 George says she and green were married at a temple in Portland, Oregon in on July 28th, 1995.

01:32:39.880 After a few months, I knew I had made a mistake. Um, we never wait. Although Gabe Gage believes it's up to

01:32:47.240 the individual woman to decide what is right for her. She also believes that they need to walk into

01:32:52.200 it with their eyes wide open. Oh, look how cute they are. She was, I don't know why. I think she's so, she

01:32:58.680 was so pretty. Do you think, what would you rate her? I don't know what it is about this look. I think this

01:33:03.240 is just my type in like, I'm straight, but like my type in women is like this blonde or maybe like, she just

01:33:10.120 has like a good look. Like I'd give her a seven. What would you say? Yeah. Yeah. I was about to say a seven.

01:33:15.400 Yeah. And then, you know, like if she was Mormon, so odds are she was like a virgin when she got married

01:33:20.920 and stuff like that. So the, the, the kind of Mormon being a virgin thing is kind of hot too.

01:33:26.760 Yeah. Well, yeah, well, it didn't, it didn't help. You know, they have a whole subgenre of corn of like,

01:33:36.120 of like Mormon stuff where people just like Mormons and act like Mormons. Oh my gosh.

01:33:41.960 Don't ask me how I know. Oh my gosh. You're the Mormon girls, huh?

01:33:48.840 I was probably not designed to be a Mormon stay at home mom, but she says with a quick laugh,

01:33:53.560 my upbringing was in many ways, um, was a housewife immersion program designed to prepare me for nothing

01:33:59.480 but wifehood. After high school, she attended Birmingham, Ham Young University, Idaho, a private

01:34:04.680 college run by the church in Rexburg, which she earned an associate's degree. But she says she

01:34:09.560 quickly discovered her plans to continue her education were derailed by her early marriage

01:34:13.720 and growing young family. Gage says that she and Green lived in a large home, had a garage full of

01:34:18.920 cars and nice vacations. But on the inside, she was struggling for years and didn't realize it.

01:34:24.760 Green, um, told our green for his part, told people they began having problems in their marriage early on.

01:34:31.320 And by the seventh year, the damage was done. Gage says she pondered leaving the marriage for years,

01:34:36.840 but didn't know how she can manage it. Gage then said she discovered Green had been cheating on her

01:34:41.640 for years. She says she tried for years to work things out and thought perhaps the cheating was done.

01:34:47.640 Then she says she discovered he had done it again. On October 2018, despite having all three children at

01:34:54.200 home, Gage says she knew it was time to walk away, but it came at a tremendous cost to her. She says she tried to

01:34:59.240 kill herself. I doubt it. Um, I survived suicide, barely, barely. They saved me, but I was in a coma

01:35:04.760 for 10 days and have a brain injury. Okay. If there's a hospital visit, I'll believe it. But this

01:35:12.200 story just seems okay. This is the, the female friendly version of the story. She's talking about

01:35:18.040 her struggle. She probably like, she probably took some extra Advil and like over-exaggerated

01:35:23.480 and like banged her head and was instead of like leaving the church just broke me.

01:35:29.640 It was very out of character. Um, then she recalls one day I rehab a man sat next to me and said,

01:35:33.960 if I had ever heard Will Smith's brick by brick speech, it's a well-known advice that the actor

01:35:39.160 has given before. You don't set out to build a brick wall. You don't just start there. Smith had said,

01:35:44.600 I'm going to lay out this brick as perfectly as the brick can be laid. And then you can do that

01:35:49.000 every day and soon you have a wall. And so basically she thought that she could probably

01:35:52.360 build what her husband built and then she couldn't. Okay. This is the husband I'm guessing.

01:35:59.160 Oh my gosh. He's attractive too. That's a good looking guy.

01:36:03.000 You think he's a good looking guy? I'd say he's good looking. No?

01:36:05.720 Yeah. I think he's tall. Hey, what are you doing? Of course he's going to cheat on you.

01:36:11.400 There's no way she's going to be able to get a guy like him ever. No.

01:36:14.680 And I was mistaken. She's been out here for four years. She's 50. By the time she's 55,

01:36:21.640 she's going to be begging to get back with her husband or wish that she would have stayed in

01:36:26.760 a marriage because there ain't nothing out here for her. Well, what St. Kevin Samuels say,

01:36:31.800 all you married women, there's nothing out here for you. Nothing. All there is, is trauma and dick.

01:36:37.960 Yeah. Not all of you are Lauren Sanchez, especially if you look like this. All right,

01:36:42.520 they're less than the rest. Don't recognize the woman

01:36:44.920 that was in the photos in the early part of your marriage. And Intensia, you've been very vocal

01:36:50.040 about the social media content. You said selling a dream to young girls that doesn't exist.

01:36:55.480 I want to quickly play one of your TikToks. Let's take a look.

01:36:59.320 The women that are telling you the trad wife life is amazing are the little 22 year old,

01:37:05.480 24 year old girls that just got in it themselves. I am literally just trying to be dead ass honest.

01:37:11.960 Being a trad wife really sucks.

01:37:21.960 You know, I, I, I, I understand perspective matters and journey matters. Sure. Do you,

01:37:29.240 but some of these people who are over the age of 40 feel that this is the life that worked for them.

01:37:35.080 Sure. That this makes them happy. Um, this allows them to be home with their children. Sure. And be

01:37:43.560 present. I can tell you're conflicted. It's, it's, it's a tough, I mean, you're a tough talker. Sure.

01:37:49.640 I mean, it is beautiful to stay home with your kids and it is beautiful to raise your kids.

01:37:54.200 But speaking of the women who are, you know, spent 20 something years being a trad wife and they, they do

01:37:59.080 advocate for it. I think they're speaking from a place of, I don't want to admit that the last 20

01:38:03.320 years were miserable and I don't have too much to go to the end. So I'm just going to pretend it's

01:38:07.080 been great. You know what I mean? I don't think, I think everybody was born as a dynamic human. You

01:38:12.040 have all these qualities and things to give to the world and then to muffle that so that you could make

01:38:17.160 somebody's favorite dinner and fold their laundry. Just, I mean, you have so much more to give. And when

01:38:23.080 you gate, when you didn't search that within and bring that out after 20 years, you're not going

01:38:28.520 to say, oh man, I was so wrong. So she, she, there's some dreams she had that probably wouldn't have

01:38:34.760 panned out that she felt like she could have did. And she blames her husband instead of like her lack

01:38:40.280 of talent and skills. And imagine being, being her children. Yeah, I know. Oh my God. She's saying that

01:38:47.800 being a mother to her children was a waste of time.

01:38:53.080 Ah, these women don't care. Oh my God. This, once again, this is the worst thing

01:38:57.960 modern women do right here. Just air everything out, rinse everything out. I think I did a panel

01:39:01.960 with this girl on like Jubilee. I think she was on one of the panels I did. I'm almost going to be dead.

01:39:07.480 You're going to say, no, it was amazing. And I love it.

01:39:09.880 I love it. We're just getting started here. Coming up, the breaking point that led both

01:39:16.440 Jenny and Anitia to walk away and why they think right now, as I said, if you go on social media,

01:39:23.000 the trad wife hashtag is exploding. Why is it so popular if it's so bad? That's next.

01:39:31.960 Okay. Why do you think that this whole trad wife thing is catching on? It's becoming popular.

01:39:38.120 Because women can get attention for it.

01:39:42.120 Well, yeah, that's number one. I just think that, well, I, okay. I think feminists have rewritten

01:39:49.320 history. They tried to say, well, all women could do was stay in the home and raise children. When

01:39:57.800 they forgot to say that how we got here was men sacrificing their mental, emotional, physical,

01:40:06.920 spiritual health for the sake of God, country, community, family. Men used to work long, hard

01:40:13.640 hours, six days a week in physically laborious jobs. And now that women want to come out into the

01:40:22.520 workforce when 77% of the economy is services, right? And so feminists have romanticized working.

01:40:30.200 Women who didn't have to work romanticized working. So now all their daughters have been out here

01:40:36.360 working and they realized, man, this sucks. So you have women doing this hashtag trad wife thing,

01:40:41.800 but they're not there. I don't even think so. Sorry. No. Oh, you didn't think so?

01:40:47.720 No. I mean, most of it's like these young girls just trying to get clout off of it. Like if they

01:40:53.320 really wanted to be a trad wife, they'd just do like, they can't help, but like do it for social media.

01:40:58.280 I'll concede to that. I'll concede to it. Yeah. I mean, that's just, but I understand

01:41:04.680 your point of view. Like, I think that sounds nice, but I just don't see women in mass having

01:41:11.240 any regrets or doing it. I think there'll be hookers before they be trad wives.

01:41:17.480 They can be hookers and then repent later on and the church will welcome them in.

01:41:22.120 I'm going to deal with our self-proclaimed former trad wives, Anitza Templeton and Jenny Gage,

01:41:29.000 both women on a mission, you might say, to show the true realities behind the trad wife lifestyle

01:41:34.200 trending on social media. Um, Jenny, the content that we're seeing right now, we had our beautiful

01:41:40.440 guests on in the first segment. Um, and they were saying, you know, this content is really to erase

01:41:46.920 the fear of showing your life. What influence do you think these videos are having?

01:41:52.760 I know they have a lot of influence because I have thousands of women.

01:41:55.880 You want to read the super chats? Um, is it on the, let me see. I didn't see any on the,

01:42:02.040 oh, here we go. Eric, the issue is there's a real economy and a female economy. Uh, all this behavior

01:42:08.040 is propagated by enabled women selling useless products to other women, selling an image, um,

01:42:14.040 selling an image, what they do matters and is useful. Um, real economy doesn't need them. Yeah,

01:42:19.720 I agree. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, that's what you get on TikTok. A lot of women make money

01:42:24.440 selling useless stuff. Was that the only one I'm on my phone? Um, I think that, hold on, there are,

01:42:33.560 uh, so Eric Perez had a $20 one. Did you read the $5 one from Eric Perez?

01:42:40.680 I think I did, but you can read it again. He says, he says, I respect Pearl's honesty. Women

01:42:45.240 would rather be a, a prostitute or homeless than be with a man. They don't want to,

01:42:51.000 want to them. That's slavery. And then Steve M. I have a, a, a beat pic, but can I post it? No,

01:42:58.840 you can't Steve. And then Steve says next caller. And then did you read? Oh, you read that one already?

01:43:05.960 Yeah. Cool. Oh, that's it. Okay. Thank you. Um, yeah, look at, I try to be honest guys. I don't

01:43:12.520 want to, I don't want to like sugarcoat anything. Cause a lot of times I just see this. It's like we,

01:43:18.200 we, a lot of times we say what we want to be true and I've even done this before, but it's like

01:43:24.520 women will pick whoredom over being with a guy they don't like. They will. Sorry. Sorry if that's your ex-wife.

01:43:31.080 Sorry. Sorry. I'm going to tell my videos all the time about how that they want to become

01:43:40.840 trad wives too. Like this is what a lot of women feel is the thing to do right now. And the problem

01:43:48.360 is they don't give the warning. Like they aren't showing the risk. They aren't showing what could

01:43:52.600 happen on the other side and what it looks like to not have anything should that romantic relationship

01:43:58.360 deal. I know in the interview that I saw that you did or read, you said, I was,

01:44:03.320 I'm more broken than I ever imagined being, but I'm happier than ever. That was after leaving the

01:44:10.920 marriage. Um, yeah, cause now she can get any benefit to a tradition. Remember now she can get

01:44:17.080 banged out by alpha chads and you might think what alpha Chad's going to bang her. Someone will do it.

01:44:24.040 Probably some 20 something year old Tyrone is probably banging her, like digging her out

01:44:29.000 right now. Yep. And they'll be happier doing that. So sorry guys. No gender relationship.

01:44:38.520 Looking back at, I know it's, it's a challenging question to ask you, but is there any benefit to it?

01:44:43.560 There are definitely benefits spending time with your children and you kind of self-actualize with

01:44:50.760 your home and decor and things like that. But I don't, I think to me, it's like riding in a car

01:44:56.360 without a seatbelt. Like maybe it's great to have windows down and the winds in your hair, but if you're

01:45:02.840 in that car accident, you're going to want your seatbelt on. So I don't advocate on my social medias

01:45:08.520 that people completely don't get married, don't have children, don't pick sourdough bread. And

01:45:13.480 if you feel like those traditional gender roles work for you, embrace that, but do it with your seatbelt

01:45:19.560 on and there are ways to do it. Cool. All right. Well, these, these are just women that took, they,

01:45:25.960 these are women, okay. That cut deals that they didn't want. And they, they traded their youth and

01:45:33.160 their fertility, um, to a guy that I don't even, I feel bad saying like to a beta guy, they didn't

01:45:40.520 like that much. Cause we don't even like ourselves. So I, when I say this guys, I want you to know,

01:45:46.520 this is how the women view you. This is how the women like, this is through our lens. And I just

01:45:53.480 want you to know, we hate ourselves. We hate each other. We can't help that. We hate you too.

01:45:58.200 So don't take that personal. If your ex-wife ended up not liking you that much, it's not you. It's,

01:46:03.800 it really is us. You know what I mean? Uh, Doug MPA, you got any final thoughts?

01:46:09.720 Doug MPA Okay. Um,

01:46:15.080 if you, for the four women listening to this, think about this. You have the opportunity to become a

01:46:22.680 trad wife or a modern woman. Okay. Would you rather spend 20, would you rather spend 18 years? So

01:46:30.920 let's say you have your first kid on the first day that you become a trad wife

01:46:35.880 or, or you go into your career. And then 18 years later, you have to make a change to flip to the

01:46:42.760 other way, other way. Would you rather spend 18 years at home and then start, raise your kids and

01:46:49.560 then start a career? Or would you spend 18 years in a job that doesn't care about you and then try to

01:46:56.200 have kids to frigging IVF later on and try to find a man 18 years later?

01:46:59.720 Doug MPA They're going to rather do the first one or the second one.

01:47:03.960 Doug MPA Yeah.

01:47:05.080 Doug MPA Well, it's because then they win. They get to use their youth on themselves.

01:47:08.600 Doug MPA You got it.

01:47:10.200 Doug MPA Sorry, I would recommend

01:47:12.680 Doug MPA Sorry, I'm such a doomer.

01:47:13.640 Doug MPA I'd recommend do at least,

01:47:17.160 because I honestly believe that it's better to have loved and lost, to have never loved at all. And you

01:47:22.520 know, maybe not for guys, but women, because women have this fear of missing out on everything,

01:47:27.560 even stuff that they say is toxic. And women still want to get married, even though women hate men,

01:47:34.040 but still want men. Women hate marriage, but still want to get married.

01:47:37.880 Doug MPA That's a great way to put it.

01:47:38.680 Doug MPA Yeah, women hate children,

01:47:41.160 although they still have them. So it's like, I think a woman should, should at least

01:47:47.800 see if the trad wife thing, because honestly, ladies, why go out there and fight in the world of men,

01:47:55.000 if, if we, if you can find the right guy that'll just give you the world.

01:48:01.640 So anyway, so then they have to listen, then they have to listen to his rules.

01:48:04.840 Doug MPA To the four ladies watching this, try being a trad wife

01:48:09.560 first. Yeah, you should try. But in a little taste, you should join OnlyFans.

01:48:16.040 All right. Thank you, Doug MPA so much for your help this evening. And you made the show more

01:48:26.200 interesting with Bryson. So thanks for coming on. I hope we, I hope he doesn't hate me. No,

01:48:32.120 he doesn't hate it. He won't hate you. He's a good guy. Yeah. All right, guys. Thank you so much for

01:48:38.440 tuning in as usual. I've had a blast with you. Make sure you like the video and subscribe to the

01:48:44.440 channel and I will see you next time. Bye. Bye. Have a good.

01:49:08.440 Bye.

JustPearlyThings - August 03, 2025

2 Trad Wives Took an L and Can't Handle It ｜ Pearl Daily

Episode Stats

Length

Words per Minute

Word Count

Sentence Count

Misogynist Sentences

Hate Speech Sentences

Summary

Transcript