JustPearlyThings - October 25, 2023


Based Psychologist DESTROYS Body Positivity


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10 minutes

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2,184

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171

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Misogyny

14

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In this episode, the lads discuss the dangers of online promiscuity and how it can have a negative impact on a woman's self-esteem and self-confidence. The lads also discuss the impact of body positivity and how to deal with it.

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00:00:00.000 I want to, before coming to the lads to get your opinion on this,
00:00:03.920 I want to get your guys' thoughts on body positivity.
00:00:07.680 What does it mean to you and what's your thoughts of it?
00:00:12.480 Body positivity?
00:00:14.920 I mean...
00:00:15.460 Because we hear this a lot when we talk about promiscuity.
00:00:17.840 Is this what people are using these days to say?
00:00:20.500 Because I haven't really heard it in this time.
00:00:22.720 So a lot of people who come on here, and obviously when Powell's hosting,
00:00:27.260 she might put it slightly different to how I put it,
00:00:28.940 but they say, you know, I like to show my body online,
00:00:32.480 I like to share it with the world, because it's body positivity.
00:00:35.800 And it's this whole idea of confidence and self-love and self-worth.
00:00:41.880 I mean, I think, unfortunately, we're being led a lot by a lot of mentally ill people, 1.00
00:00:46.280 because when you look at a lot of agendas that are completely destroying people's morals,
00:00:52.740 this can fall into that same category.
00:00:54.640 Now, someone being sexual and promiscuous online,
00:01:00.760 that is then awarded, in a way, unconsciously to that person,
00:01:04.640 for them to believe that it's a correct behaviour,
00:01:07.380 that goes to show...
00:01:08.460 Do you know what I mean?
00:01:08.980 A lot of people have a lot to work within themselves, in my opinion.
00:01:12.780 So that comes from a lot of trauma.
00:01:14.600 A woman that is very okay with that has to be so delusional, 1.00
00:01:18.500 in a form of protection.
00:01:19.940 So they've come from trauma, or they've come from something,
00:01:23.120 that they have to...
00:01:24.000 They become that deluded for them to feel positive for showing their body online.
00:01:29.940 You know?
00:01:30.320 And I just look at it in a very vulnerable way,
00:01:33.200 because I feel sorry for these women. 0.98
00:01:34.240 It's not that I attack them.
00:01:35.560 I don't look down at them.
00:01:36.860 I don't agree with what they're doing, like OnlyFans girls. 1.00
00:01:38.980 I don't disagree with what they're doing,
00:01:40.980 but it's a shame that they're doing that,
00:01:42.420 because they don't realise how traumatised or hurt,
00:01:45.280 and how much healing they need to do,
00:01:47.040 for them to actually grasp the idea of them to think about
00:01:50.680 what it's like in the future,
00:01:52.480 them looking back on their actions,
00:01:53.760 because you can't undo, especially anything on online.
00:01:56.820 They've made loads of money, though.
00:01:58.360 Yeah, but money comes and goes.
00:01:59.440 That's the problem people don't understand.
00:02:00.880 Money is motivated.
00:02:02.100 Money can be evil, in my opinion.
00:02:04.920 Depends on the person.
00:02:05.860 I think it can be a very evil thing.
00:02:07.920 Money comes and goes.
00:02:09.260 That's not what life is all about, making money.
00:02:11.440 It isn't.
00:02:11.940 So if you exploit a behaviour and you make loads of money off of it...
00:02:15.820 But I wouldn't exploit a behaviour that's incorrect.
00:02:19.140 I'm not talking about you, but I'm saying we're the OnlyFans girls.
00:02:21.120 If you exploit a behaviour and you make loads of money off of it,
00:02:24.060 and all of a sudden, you've grown out of it,
00:02:28.180 and now you're in a different state where your mind isn't all too there...
00:02:31.040 Yeah, exactly. Can you imagine?
00:02:32.040 Who is really to blame for that?
00:02:33.640 Is it the people that were...
00:02:34.460 It's not about blaming it.
00:02:35.720 Or is it you?
00:02:37.240 I mean...
00:02:37.840 What I want to know is, where does the accountability come in?
00:02:40.740 Like, when do we look at ourselves and be like,
00:02:44.460 rah, this madness happened to me in my life,
00:02:46.600 but I'm not going to go and do an absolute madness to other people
00:02:50.200 because it can potentially affect everybody.
00:02:52.400 It doesn't make any sense.
00:02:53.320 Where do we get to the part where we're like,
00:02:56.020 okay, this madness happened to you, we get it.
00:02:58.980 That doesn't mean you go and then do the same madness to other people.
00:03:02.400 Where does the accountability come in in this situation?
00:03:04.260 There's so many factors, I think.
00:03:05.660 I think socially, economically,
00:03:07.720 there's so many things that are in play to a woman. 1.00
00:03:10.940 When a woman, for example, 0.99
00:03:12.300 if a woman has children and she's a single mother, 0.99
00:03:15.760 okay, but at the same time,
00:03:17.360 yes, she needs to feed her kids, 1.00
00:03:18.840 but if she really wanted to feed her kids,
00:03:20.480 she would get up and work her ass off, in my opinion. 1.00
00:03:23.320 I come from a refugee family that came here from a war.
00:03:27.580 I know what it is like to come from nothing.
00:03:29.720 Do you know what I mean?
00:03:30.680 I know what that means.
00:03:31.900 So, unfortunately, women are seeing this as an easy option, 1.00
00:03:34.940 but not really understanding the consequences in the future.
00:03:37.440 You said that it's a shame and that they've been through trauma and all of that,
00:03:42.080 which I agree.
00:03:43.640 I think, ultimately, that there's a void in themselves
00:03:46.840 that they're trying to fill with something outside of themselves.
00:03:49.300 Without knowing, unfortunately, most of the time.
00:03:52.320 I've thought that for a long time.
00:03:54.760 I'm now starting to believe it's just willful ignorance.
00:03:58.080 Oh, okay.
00:03:59.040 Perhaps we won't get into a philosophical debate.
00:04:01.200 My question for you is,
00:04:03.840 you said, you know, it's a shame, it's trauma, all of that stuff.
00:04:07.620 So why do you not disagree with it?
00:04:09.180 You said you don't disagree with them doing it.
00:04:12.680 I don't, listen, someone's opinion,
00:04:16.320 I can't understand someone's background of doing it.
00:04:18.720 So I can't judge somebody on that basis of me
00:04:20.920 just understanding certain facts about an individual.
00:04:23.380 I don't agree with it in a whole, in a bigger perspective.
00:04:26.660 I don't agree with women selling their bodies online or... 1.00
00:04:29.680 So you do disagree with them?
00:04:30.560 I do disagree with what women are doing, yes. 1.00
00:04:33.160 Right, okay.
00:04:33.760 But I'm just trying to sound why.
00:04:35.320 But at the same time...
00:04:36.960 I do the same thing.
00:04:37.940 I try and psychoanalyse everything.
00:04:39.340 But I think ultimately in society,
00:04:41.020 the only way we're going to move forward
00:04:42.360 is if we have clear definitions about things.
00:04:44.460 Because I think at the moment we live in a world
00:04:46.740 where everything has become,
00:04:48.220 and as much as I hate the word, fluid.
00:04:50.520 Everything is a mess right now.
00:04:52.120 And we seem to have lost the definitions to things.
00:04:55.040 And I think, you know,
00:04:56.600 we seem to have gone overboard with this concept of tolerance.
00:05:00.300 The idea of, you know,
00:05:02.000 you can do what you want and live and let live.
00:05:04.280 It's like, okay, well, how far does that go?
00:05:06.380 Because if we stop judging each other,
00:05:07.980 how do we decide who's a criminal?
00:05:10.460 But those people are then affecting our environment,
00:05:14.480 our, do you know what I mean,
00:05:15.720 people in general online.
00:05:17.500 Yeah.
00:05:17.680 Somebody at that, do you know what I mean,
00:05:19.120 let's say someone has loads of followers
00:05:20.480 and has younger women following them, 0.99
00:05:22.680 listening to their bullshit
00:05:23.740 and their absolute nonsense,
00:05:25.420 that is then affecting us,
00:05:26.920 not directly, but indirectly.
00:05:28.740 Yeah, and it's affecting the next generation.
00:05:30.740 Absolutely.
00:05:31.300 And where is the stock?
00:05:32.760 But again, where does the accountability come in?
00:05:35.120 I'm going to ask this again
00:05:36.220 because all of us in here probably listen to rap.
00:05:38.880 That individual has to take accountability for themselves.
00:05:41.400 No, but this is what I'm saying.
00:05:42.380 It sounds like we're making excuses here
00:05:43.900 because when we're listening to rap music,
00:05:45.400 the vast majority of people that listen to rap music
00:05:47.120 aren't going out and doing road.
00:05:49.540 They're not going out and stabbing people.
00:05:51.400 They're not going out shooting people.
00:05:53.080 They're not going out doing bootings.
00:05:54.760 They're not going out scamming people.
00:05:57.820 They are.
00:05:58.340 They're definitely not having a great time.
00:05:59.900 One second.
00:06:00.500 One second.
00:06:00.940 They're not going out doing all of these different things.
00:06:03.340 No, no, no.
00:06:03.960 You're talking about a small minority of people
00:06:05.380 that are doing it.
00:06:05.980 Otherwise, if a large majority of people
00:06:07.340 that listen to rap,
00:06:08.480 again, one of the biggest genres in the world,
00:06:10.460 the whole world would be in turmoil.
00:06:11.600 Music and a woman's body are two different things. 1.00
00:06:14.500 No, but what I'm trying to show you
00:06:17.000 is where does the accountability come in?
00:06:19.120 What I'm trying to show you is I'm trying to give you...
00:06:20.580 Well, what's your opinion?
00:06:21.400 Where do you think?
00:06:22.380 I think he's talking about the fact
00:06:23.680 that you said there's multiple factors
00:06:25.200 that come into it and you said...
00:06:26.680 That effect.
00:06:27.180 What he's trying to say is that ultimately
00:06:30.540 it is the woman's decision
00:06:32.080 if she decides to do that.
00:06:33.300 This is what I'm saying.
00:06:34.020 When it comes to men listening to all this music,
00:06:36.420 they're not going out and doing all this type of stuff.
00:06:37.980 There's a vast majority of men
00:06:39.060 that listen to rap music
00:06:39.920 that don't go on to be murderers,
00:06:41.660 drug dealers, all this type of stuff in general.
00:06:44.080 So where do we look at the situation
00:06:48.320 and be like, bro,
00:06:49.860 there needs to be some accountability
00:06:50.940 taken for the person.
00:06:51.960 Again, I completely understand
00:06:53.320 that you might have a situation
00:06:55.160 that's completely messed up
00:06:57.180 every single person,
00:06:59.100 not every single person,
00:06:59.900 but a lot of people
00:07:00.700 have worse situations than you
00:07:02.020 and they have not gone into doing things
00:07:04.620 that are going to denigrate their own community.
00:07:06.560 So I'm going to ask again,
00:07:07.760 when do we say to the people
00:07:09.620 that are doing all of this stuff,
00:07:11.100 where's your accountability?
00:07:13.060 I get your hurt.
00:07:14.240 That's fine.
00:07:15.080 I understand your hurt.
00:07:16.360 I understand people have done madnesses to you.
00:07:18.800 But there's also a bunch of other people
00:07:20.160 that have been through those same things.
00:07:22.320 And instead of them going
00:07:23.780 and denigrating their community,
00:07:25.040 what do they do?
00:07:25.520 They try to be martyrs
00:07:27.380 to make sure that things like that
00:07:28.880 don't happen to other people.
00:07:30.360 They try to educate people.
00:07:32.060 They try to teach people
00:07:33.320 wagwan, this, that, and blah, blah, blah.
00:07:34.960 But when it comes to us talking about
00:07:36.780 women and their bad behavior, 1.00
00:07:39.940 it's like we just can't say,
00:07:41.860 hey, just be accountable.
00:07:42.860 Just stop.
00:07:43.620 Be accountable.
00:07:45.040 I get it.
00:07:45.980 Your life might have been mad,
00:07:47.260 but bro, you selling your cheeks
00:07:48.600 on OnlyFans for less than a Big Mac
00:07:49.940 is not my problem.
00:07:51.000 What are we doing here?
00:07:51.900 What are we doing here?
00:07:53.920 Why is this an excuse?
00:07:55.680 Or delusional.
00:07:56.700 There's delusion and being unconscious.
00:07:58.260 I wanted to believe this
00:07:59.060 for a really long time.
00:08:00.040 Or just stupidity.
00:08:01.280 But I just don't think it's true.
00:08:02.220 Basically, just loads of stupid people
00:08:03.640 have just affected our society.
00:08:05.140 Is this what it comes down to?
00:08:06.080 Isn't stupidity a personal problem?
00:08:07.200 I think that takes away from accountability.
00:08:08.260 No, not ours.
00:08:09.440 No, I'm saying.
00:08:10.020 Isn't stupidity a personal problem?
00:08:12.640 I don't know.
00:08:13.440 They just need to be lied to that.
00:08:15.820 I'm right.
00:08:16.360 I'm just saying.
00:08:17.000 Stupidity is a personal problem.
00:08:18.120 If you're being stupid
00:08:18.840 It is a personal problem.
00:08:19.700 And you're making them decisions,
00:08:20.500 you can't blame the world for it.
00:08:20.780 I have a question for the people
00:08:22.520 who are talking about accountability.
00:08:25.020 Accountability, yeah.
00:08:26.640 Do you mean that those women 0.66
00:08:29.160 who do this kind of things
00:08:32.320 or this kind of work,
00:08:33.500 they are not taking accountability
00:08:34.680 like they are not conscious
00:08:36.480 that they are doing it?
00:08:37.500 Or what do you mean about that?
00:08:38.460 They're conscious,
00:08:38.940 but they're in delusion.
00:08:40.080 That's the problem.
00:08:40.680 They're conscious.
00:08:41.120 But what I'm trying to say is
00:08:42.060 if I go out, God forbid,
00:08:44.660 and I've had a bad day at work
00:08:47.520 and I punch someone in the face,
00:08:49.520 regardless of whether or not
00:08:50.260 I had a bad day at work,
00:08:51.260 I still punch someone in the face.
00:08:52.860 That's what I'm talking about
00:08:53.720 in terms of accountability.
00:08:54.960 So don't go out,
00:08:56.340 do a madness,
00:08:57.020 because we've seen a lot of OnlyFans
00:08:58.240 turn reverts right now, yeah?
00:09:00.080 They're getting to the point where
00:09:01.180 COVID is done now.
00:09:02.820 Sorry, Bovid is done now.
00:09:04.520 Whatever it is, yeah?
00:09:05.380 That's all done now.
00:09:06.980 And the man they mean buying
00:09:09.220 the OnlyFans no more.
00:09:10.260 They're not doing that no more.
00:09:11.420 Do you get me?
00:09:11.740 They've got things to do.
00:09:12.520 They've actually got to go work X, Y, and Z.
00:09:13.860 And now you see a bunch of reverts
00:09:15.500 that were like,
00:09:15.880 oh no, let me throw that ass 1.00
00:09:17.840 in a circle online, blah, blah, blah,
00:09:20.020 going, oh.
00:09:21.940 I found Jesus
00:09:22.940 and I've come back to the line.
00:09:25.660 I found Jesus.
00:09:27.160 I wish I didn't do it.
00:09:28.580 I wish I didn't do this.
00:09:29.540 And they're trying to warn people against it.
00:09:31.000 And it's like, okay, cool.
00:09:31.740 That's beautiful.
00:09:32.300 You've gotten to the point.
00:09:32.700 Yeah, because they're fucked
00:09:33.740 and then they're trying to play
00:09:34.900 a whole other game.
00:09:35.620 Do you see what I'm saying?
00:09:35.960 And it's like, bud,
00:09:36.800 when the price of the fans
00:09:39.260 is going down,
00:09:40.940 it's not, remember,
00:09:42.600 the fans is not,
00:09:43.860 30, 40 bucks, you know?
00:09:45.600 It's not none of them teams in there.
00:09:46.920 It's like $6.99.
00:09:47.600 It's a Big Mac.
00:09:49.680 $6.99.
00:09:50.540 It's a Big Mac.
00:09:51.740 $5.99.
00:09:52.740 So when the price starts going
00:09:55.000 from a Big Mac
00:09:55.760 to a little Appymil,
00:09:57.080 $1.99.
00:09:58.820 $1.99.
00:09:58.940 You lost,
00:10:00.040 the confidence that you had
00:10:02.040 that was up here
00:10:02.660 when you had a bunch
00:10:03.380 of different teams
00:10:03.900 doing X, Y, and Z
00:10:04.680 is now completely down here.
00:10:06.040 Who is to blame
00:10:06.760 in that situation?
00:10:06.980 Can you imagine how they