JustPearlyThings - November 16, 2023


Ben Shapiro SLAMS Candace Owens - "Absolutely Disgraceful Behaviour"


Episode Stats

Length

17 minutes

Words per Minute

189.83675

Word Count

3,407

Sentence Count

267

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

20


Summary

Join us as we discuss Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, and the collapse of support for the Jewish state, and why we should all be mad at her for it. Plus, we talk about why women should be in positions of power.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So, speaking of crazy behavior, this crazy, oh gosh, this is tea.
00:00:05.880 Okay.
00:00:06.880 This is tea.
00:00:07.880 Okay.
00:00:08.880 You know Candace Owens works for Ben Shapiro at The Daily Wire.
00:00:11.160 I do.
00:00:12.160 Now, we all know there's this huge conflict going on in Israel right now.
00:00:17.000 Now, me personally, I haven't really, I don't know enough, like the conflict is so confusing
00:00:22.360 to me that I don't really-
00:00:23.360 I think it is to a lot of people.
00:00:24.640 Yeah, I don't really have a side, right?
00:00:26.560 And I could see both points of view from what I've heard, but I don't know, I'm not.
00:00:32.040 That conflict is very confusing.
00:00:33.520 Well, it's a conflict that's been going on for thousands of years, so I don't think anyone
00:00:38.480 really knows what to make of it.
00:00:40.440 Exactly.
00:00:41.440 There's some obvious things that we can all take from it, but there's also a lot that I
00:00:44.740 don't think any of us will ever be able to understand because it's been going on for
00:00:47.560 so long.
00:00:48.560 Yeah.
00:00:49.560 And I've heard Candace Owens speak out about being called anti-Semitic because they're
00:00:55.340 basically labeling Candace as anti-Semitic.
00:00:58.340 Now, I have a little bit of experience.
00:01:00.940 I found out yesterday the most Googled I've ever been-
00:01:03.820 Yeah, I can imagine.
00:01:04.820 Was when I was called anti-Semitic.
00:01:05.820 No, but it's so interesting because I don't even have an opinion on that stuff.
00:01:10.760 I don't even have a strong feeling one way or the other.
00:01:13.220 I could listen to someone on both sides talk and I would understand where they were coming
00:01:17.500 from as of now.
00:01:19.060 And yet I got labeled anti-Semitic.
00:01:20.340 I was like, wow, what the hell?
00:01:22.780 So I heard Candace saying that she condemns genocide on Twitter.
00:01:26.780 I know she had a clip of her talking about how she wanted to nominate Nikki Haley for the
00:01:32.060 president of Israel.
00:01:34.320 And she's sort of been poking fun at people calling everyone and everything anti-Semitic.
00:01:39.440 And we're going to go through some of these.
00:01:41.140 Now there's a clip that came out of Ben Shapiro slamming Candace Owens for her absolutely disgraceful
00:01:46.740 behavior in front of a visibly shocked audience.
00:01:50.780 Candace Owens goes on to say her faux sophistication on this issue is ridiculous.
00:01:55.780 Tensions rising at the daily wire.
00:01:57.780 It's not faux sophistication.
00:01:58.780 It's ridiculous.
00:01:59.780 Everybody can see the moves that she's making and the things that she's saying and I find
00:02:00.780 them indistrupulous.
00:02:01.780 indistrupulous.
00:02:02.780 What is her behavior?
00:02:06.780 What is her behavior?
00:02:07.780 What's he referring to?
00:02:08.780 So there's a video.
00:02:09.780 Here is one example of what Candace has been saying in the recent weeks.
00:02:14.780 Owens endorses Nikki Haley for president of Israel amid collapsing support for Jewish state.
00:02:19.780 Well, I am here today to endorse Nikki Haley for president of Israel.
00:02:26.780 I think she's earned that.
00:02:27.780 I think she's earned that.
00:02:28.780 I think BB Netanyahu is going through a very bad time right now.
00:02:29.780 Support for Israel has virtually collapsed.
00:02:31.780 Socially.
00:02:32.780 If you're paying attention to the trends and you're paying attention to what people are
00:02:35.280 watching, you're paying attention to the...
00:02:36.780 Yeah.
00:02:37.780 I know it's OK, it looks like a lot of people about the parties.
00:02:38.780 Right.
00:02:39.780 Well, and I'm even registered for remembering that.
00:02:40.780 We have the resources and ideas.
00:02:41.780 But if you have that, let me show you a picture and do a picture that is where I'm
00:02:42.780 going to get into the Eren channel, so I don't see how incredible leaders are but
00:02:43.780 everyone.
00:02:44.780 On the other hand let me show me your screen.
00:02:45.780 So, like, that little red light is super strong to make some 못 Sheriff's Archives.
00:02:46.780 Haley for president of Israel. I think she's earned that. I think Bibi Netanyahu is going
00:02:52.480 through a very bad time right now. Support for Israel has virtually collapsed socially. If you're
00:02:57.460 paying attention to the trends and you're paying attention to what people are watching, you're
00:03:01.140 paying attention to the protests. And the one person that I think is capable of getting it back
00:03:05.680 is Nikki Haley with enough money from foreign interest lobbies. So there it is, guys. I'm
00:03:12.240 endorsing Nikki Haley, president of Israel. So Nikki Haley is a presidential candidate
00:03:19.020 in the U.S. She worked for the U.N. a couple of years ago. I actually met her. I actually
00:03:24.480 met her a couple of years ago. Really quick selfie. I personally don't think women should
00:03:29.040 really be in positions of power like that. So I'm not the biggest fan. I've kind of seen
00:03:33.700 her. The little takes that I've seen of hers, I don't really like. She had one take that
00:03:39.260 everyone on social media needs to have a public account. That seems like tyranny. I think you
00:03:44.320 have. I don't enjoy the trolls. You guys annoy me. But I will say you have the right to have
00:03:50.140 an anonymous account with no pictures. I'm not. But like, you know, that kind of goes back
00:03:54.400 to how women like to micromanage, et cetera. And I think she's had a lot of pro-war stances.
00:03:59.880 Okay. And so basically getting more involved in the Israel-Palestine conflict. That's what
00:04:06.960 Nikki Haley stands for. Nikki Haley. Yeah. And so I want to say I think she has that view of Nikki
00:04:12.820 Haley because Nikki wants to get more involved. I think Candace thinks we should stay out of it
00:04:19.440 based on what I've seen. There's three stances that I've seen. I've seen people that are on the
00:04:24.260 side of Israel that we should get involved and support Israel. I've seen people that are on the
00:04:28.900 side of Palestine that they're saying we should get involved and support Palestine. And I've
00:04:33.420 seen people that think we should just stay out of it. So Owens compares the media's recent
00:04:39.200 outcry over anti-Semitism to their complete silence on anti-white racism. What makes the
00:04:44.740 Jews so special? Let's pull it up. We had a similar thing happen here in the UK very,
00:04:48.840 very recently. Our home secretary was sacked. She pointed out that the police in the UK were
00:04:55.520 quite harsh on the British protesters. I don't really know exactly the context of what was
00:05:02.280 happening, but the police were harsh on the British protesters. And a lot of people were
00:05:05.600 saying that this Suella Braverman lady spoke for the sort of quiet majority of British people.
00:05:11.040 I don't know. I don't know enough about her to say whether she speaks for me or not.
00:05:14.580 But what I do know is that we are seeing a lot of people talking about how come you can speak
00:05:20.100 about anti-something, anti-something, but you can't talk about this. Well, I had a song dedicated to
00:05:26.580 just that. Yeah, that backfired. Anyways, let's pull up the video. There are a lot of people in
00:05:34.340 America that are sitting here going, okay, well, can you answer why Jews are so special? Because
00:05:39.340 as white people in this country on university campuses, we are being taught that we are not
00:05:43.740 allowed to have a voice. We have had to endure exactly what you're talking about, BLM. We've endured
00:05:48.060 much worse than you have because it's in the actual textbooks. We are being told that we are
00:05:52.140 systematically racist, that we are born wrong because of the color of our skin. And if we say
00:05:56.060 anything, we'll lose everything. This is the typical experience on white campuses. So people,
00:06:00.480 this is not whataboutism. This is like actually what we have been fighting for years. So it sort of
00:06:05.760 arrived, as I think for a lot of Americans, a surprise when they're saying, well, now that it's about
00:06:10.960 Israel, which is something that's overseas, we need to, you know, hand these university professors,
00:06:16.160 we need to do something about this issue. Why weren't we trying to correct course on this issue?
00:06:19.940 Why weren't donors pulling their funding out of these universities? Why weren't these same things
00:06:24.140 being said for these last, I would say, eight years of rampant BLM, white man can't do anything
00:06:31.380 right, actively being taught in the classrooms? So there are people that are asking that question.
00:06:36.220 Now, what I have said is that explicit calls for genocide, which was stunning to me to see that in
00:06:41.440 Congress are completely wrong. It is frankly crazy. I have not weighed in on the IDF's response in the
00:06:47.840 same way that I have consistently said through every war, Ukraine and Russia, I don't want to be
00:06:52.280 involved. I have said I don't want to be involved in Israel and Palestine, all these conflicts.
00:06:57.860 My consistency seems to offend people, right? But I haven't made a single tweet or a single comment
00:07:02.780 on IDF's response in Palestine. I haven't said a single thing about that. I have said it is always sad
00:07:07.680 when a child dies. And the lack of humanity that I have seen from both sides has been very troubling
00:07:12.260 for me. But to say that I have to weigh in and suddenly, you know, wave an Israeli flag and say
00:07:20.040 things that, you know, because you decide that you get to use my platform because it's personal to you,
00:07:26.900 how is that fair to people? How is that fair? And then to then go a step further and to suggest that
00:07:31.660 it might be anti-Semitic, which is basically silence is violence, is a leftist tactic. To me,
00:07:37.680 feels very extreme. This is not about a geographical geopolitical dispute between Israel and
00:07:44.000 Palestine. This is about an ideological mission to rid the world of Israel and the Jews. That's
00:07:49.360 what I think people misunderstand. Yeah. Well, Jews live very comfortably in the United States of
00:07:53.800 America. So they're not going to be, I mean, you know, obviously Jews- They lived comfortably in
00:07:58.560 Germany before world war, before Germany too. They did. Doctors, lawyers, intellectuals. I really
00:08:04.900 struggle when people start using, you know, things that have happened in the past that are abhorrent,
00:08:10.260 like slavery, to say that, like, if this doesn't happen, then slavery is going to be back. Or if
00:08:14.160 this doesn't happen, then it's going to be the Holocaust too. I think there's a lot more meaningful
00:08:17.540 chatter and discussion that we can have. We don't have to resort to that kind of, you know.
00:08:21.140 History repeats itself if you forget it, you know, you have to be conscious and Jews,
00:08:24.540 especially. Unfortunately, I'm a grandchild of all four of my grandparents are Holocaust survivors.
00:08:28.940 So what do you think of the Holocaust survivors and the Jewish people in New York City that are
00:08:33.900 protesting on behalf of Palestine? That's a great question.
00:08:38.960 Yeah, I think that there's a very strange, bizarre, I mean, it's the same people that you
00:08:44.840 would condemn as the people of the white people who bow down to BLM protesters who hate themselves
00:08:49.260 and feel a certain sense of guilt. They feel a certain sense of, I think, a lot of the ideologies
00:08:54.120 on the woke left, to the extent that things are good and prosperous and virtuous, they condemn
00:08:59.120 as bad. And the things that are broken morally and depraved, they see as good. This is the lens
00:09:04.140 by which the far left views things. And I think these Jews that happen to be politically far left
00:09:08.980 and maybe are not that connected to the Judaism or are culturally, maybe culturally Jewish, but
00:09:13.260 don't have a strong Jewish upbringing. Not to say that politics and being a Jew go hand in hand with
00:09:18.000 the same political identity. But my point is, just like the white people who in mass were bowing down
00:09:25.080 and feeling guilty about themselves simply for being white or people who feel guilty for being
00:09:29.540 successful or the anti-capitalists who say anyone who has something is necessarily bad, some people
00:09:34.940 buy into that sort of masochism of hating themselves to gain favor with people who want
00:09:40.120 their destruction. It's really sick.
00:09:41.780 So would you say that in order to be a Christian, you have to, a Catholic, you have to support
00:09:47.740 the Vatican? Like you can't be a Jewish person that doesn't, just doesn't support the state
00:09:52.020 of Israel. Is that what you're implying?
00:09:54.540 Yeah, because I have Jewish friends that are pro-Israel and I have Jewish friends that say
00:09:58.400 that they are, they just do not support Zionism at all. And that they think that the creation
00:10:02.780 of the Israel state is something that is political and has nothing to do with actually the Jewish
00:10:06.760 faith at all. And so I listened to both of those sides. I try to hear both of those voices.
00:10:10.860 And I don't think having a different perspective makes any person less Jewish. And I think it's
00:10:15.480 been problematic to hear, and this is not you, this isn't a criticism towards you, when they
00:10:19.540 say, well, to even have that perspective makes you not Jewish because it's so reminiscent for me of
00:10:23.160 me saying I'm a black conservative. And they say, well, even to be a black Republican, it's, you know.
00:10:28.300 Of course.
00:10:29.460 So I didn't see anything anti-Semitic or hateful.
00:10:33.060 Is that what they're saying is anti-Semitic?
00:10:34.980 I mean, I don't know what Ben Shapiro is referring to as this terrible behavior.
00:10:39.920 Because to me, it's her exploring the ideas. She doesn't sound like she's saying she's an
00:10:44.540 expert on the topic. She doesn't sound like she's even really taking a side. She kind
00:10:51.360 of seems similar to me where we're both like, I don't know what to make of it. So let me
00:10:55.580 learn about it.
00:10:57.160 And maybe she's a little bit more like, she probably is a little bit like knows a little
00:11:02.440 bit more. But I'm like, I didn't even see her go hard one way or the other.
00:11:06.220 Some of Owen's recent likes. Okay, let's see.
00:11:11.880 Zionist lobby is starting to go after Candace Owens. Now she will learn.
00:11:17.500 Cernovich says, by now it's clear Israel is indiscriminately bombing Palestine. It's a
00:11:22.480 lie to say otherwise. You can say it's necessary. That's a matter of moral judgment and opinion.
00:11:27.700 But please don't lie.
00:11:29.240 Oh, she liked this one. That said, I don't know, frankly, who should control Gaza, when
00:11:35.080 or if Hamas is wiped out. But I do know it can't be Benjamin Matanyahi.
00:11:43.240 Pierce Warden criticizes the Israeli Prime Minister's plans to occupy Gaza after the bombing is done.
00:11:50.880 One must wonder if Ben Shapiro feels similarly about Matt Walsh, who has been similarly outspoken
00:11:57.680 about Israel-first Zionists. Following the GOP primaries debate last week, he said Republicans'
00:12:03.760 allegiance to Israel is a mental sickness.
00:12:07.440 This is not how people talk about their own countries.
00:12:11.580 This is a uniquely modern American phenomenon. It's like a sickness, a mental sickness,
00:12:17.060 where some of our leaders, or would-be leaders, profess greater admiration and love for and pride
00:12:24.900 in foreign countries than their own. It's just a crazy thing to say. Again,
00:12:30.500 Matt Walsh slammed Nikki Haley for contradicting herself in last week's debate. Haley demands that
00:12:35.780 the U.S. help Israel, but just moments later claims that Israel doesn't need the U.S. at all.
00:12:40.340 Funny enough, this seems to echo a similar contradiction from Shapiro last month.
00:12:45.220 Israel doesn't need us. We need them. If that's true, then how can you say that in one breath,
00:12:53.620 and then in the next breath, tell us that it is imperative for the United States to help Israel?
00:12:58.820 I thought you said they don't need us. They don't need us at all. We could not exist,
00:13:02.500 according to you, and it would make a difference. You cannot say both of those things. You cannot say
00:13:08.020 they desperately need us, and also they don't need us.
00:13:10.340 You really expect us to believe that America benefits more from its alliance than Israel
00:13:16.660 benefits from that same alliance? That is nonsense. No, Israel greatly benefits from America.
00:13:26.260 They say that I want America to fight wars for Israel. Nope. Nope. First of all, Israel can take
00:13:30.500 care of herself. If Israel is forced to the wall, the possibility of nuclear exchange is extremely high.
00:13:36.900 That is why it is very important that the United States provide the material aid to Israel,
00:13:42.020 and that they also dissuade Hezbollah from- Wow. There is a lot going on at the Daily Wire. Can you
00:13:50.420 imagine if this was a network? So you have all four people like tweeting about each other, and now, oh,
00:14:00.820 are they- do you think they're gonna fire Owens? No. You don't think so? No. I think they will. I think she'll
00:14:07.380 either leave or they'll fire her. I think she will leave. She'll leave. Leave. But they'll- oh, like publicly,
00:14:14.820 she'll leave. But really, she got fired. I don't think Walsh will leave, though. How have Walsh and
00:14:20.900 Owens not been fired from the Daily Liar yet? Guys, come and join the Audacity Network. Guys,
00:14:28.100 guys, look it. I heard Candace's husbands from England. I mean, we're right- Candace, look it.
00:14:35.300 This desk right here is free. Like, we have a slot for you. Look.
00:14:40.180 Okay, Matt and Candace are about to get sacked. Yeah, Matt, look it. We're in the UK.
00:14:47.060 Look it. I know we had our debates. The weather's not great, but, you know, we-
00:14:50.100 The weather's quite bad. Big Ben, London Eye. Yeah, look it. Look it. Ben's about to have a mass
00:14:56.420 firing. It's gotta be interesting having- I understand you need to be somewhat ideologically
00:15:03.780 aligned if you're going to be part of the same network, but it kind of begs the question of
00:15:08.660 what can you differ on and what can't you? Yeah. Because that's such- that's gotta
00:15:13.460 be such a big and, like, personal issue to Ben Shapiro that I am surprised they, like,
00:15:18.660 worked for him to begin with because that seems to be, like, a core issue of who he is. Yeah.
00:15:25.140 So I'm actually surprised he had them at all. Well, maybe because it- when they joined-
00:15:31.540 It wasn't that big at the time. No. Yeah. So now things are coming to the forefront. Emotions are
00:15:36.340 playing probably a bigger part and things are coming a bit more evident to people how they
00:15:40.660 feel about certain things, and therefore maybe it's revealing certain ideologies and things that
00:15:45.780 they have. I don't think it was disgraceful behavior, though. I did not see anything from
00:15:50.980 Candace that was absolutely disgraceful behavior. I think it's a- to me, what I'm- I- what comes to mind for me
00:15:59.700 is in the book 1984, the idea of thought police. And unfortunately, I'm seeing this pattern in the
00:16:10.020 media across all sources right now. If you ask questions, you're automatically given a label of
00:16:18.740 disgraceful. Why? I can't- sorry. See how careful we're having to be, like- No, I know. And that's the-
00:16:30.020 that's the thing, and it's like, then it makes you question what- And then it's like, we- when you have
00:16:35.060 thought police, and you are prohibiting people from asking questions, because what I have seen from
00:16:40.500 Candace, with my own eyes and ears- this is all I've seen with this dispute- Yeah. I have come to the
00:16:46.100 conclusion that she was not acting disgracefully. In fact, she was acting- she was acting curiously,
00:16:51.140 and perhaps in certain areas when she was referring to the anti-whiteness, she was playing the devil's
00:16:55.220 advocate. Now, her intentions, we can't know. We're not inside Candace's head. No one is. So we can't
00:17:00.420 infer what we think she's doing. But what I do think Ben Shapiro is doing in his statement that he made
00:17:07.620 is inferring that he knows Candace's intentions. And I've seen this pattern in every single conversation
00:17:13.860 on this conflict. I do see the same pattern where people label you something for asking questions,
00:17:20.820 and that begs the question, why can't we ask questions? Because society collapses when we
00:17:26.740 stop talking to each other, and we stop asking questions. Well, and I think it makes it worse,
00:17:30.980 because it makes one side seem suspicious, because nobody can say anything to them. And so people that
00:17:38.820 are in the middle are kind of like, what's going on? I don't know what to think. But you know, I don't
00:17:44.100 wish that they break up. I think Matt Walsh will stay. I think Candace Owens will leave. I think
00:17:50.420 she'll either quit or they'll fire her. She'll be the scapegoat, won't she? Yeah.