Consequences Of Open Relationships
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss polyamory and open relationships. We discuss the benefits and drawbacks of open relationships and how to deal with jealousy in an open relationship. Polyamory is a term used to describe a situation where a woman sleeps with multiple men and the male sleeps with other women. In this episode we discuss the pros and cons of polyamorous relationships and what the benefits are and the problems that come with them.
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just weird do you know anyone that's done an open relationship i do actually how did like
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was it on both ends yeah it was on both ends but
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they were just them type of people that it was expected you know what i mean like so when
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everybody started finding out they're in an open relationship the female sleeps with females and
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the guy sleeps with girls it was like it wasn't anything like it was just like oh are they still
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together no they're not they're not did it did they fight over it at all or no um yeah i think
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it started getting like abusive between them and then the female actually ended up having a baby
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with another man that wasn't him it just went left like it was just it was just it was crazy
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you said you know someone oh yeah i've got a few friends who are into the whole polyamorous
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thing i mean there's definitely something magical about just a man and a woman you know sharing
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a um relationship bond with one another but as i said earlier you know i think the problem and you
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definitely mentioned yeah sort of mentioned this about how a big problem with open relationships
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and polyamory is jealousy can really cause issues and if people are not able to work through that
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that's what can actually end up tearing people apart some people make it work i suppose do you
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know anyone that's made it work like for more than 10 years oh well i don't know any like most
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people i know like around you know 20s or 30s so what about you you know any open relationships no
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put eight years as a standard that's the average length of a marriage um i mean i i knew somebody
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went out like like 15 years ago that was in that kind of relationship and i really thought through that
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i mean this is like you know long before i met my wife and everything but like i really thought
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through that and it i mean so so i've thought through that and i kind of realized that polyamory
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like massively famers favors the female right because when you take like imagine a society where it's like
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one woman and multiple men let's just go like to that extreme what happens is the woman has all the
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access to the sex because the woman then chooses who she has sex with because women control the access to
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the sex and on top of that the man none of the men know the paternity like if they sort of are like
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a similar tribe let's say none of the men actually know the paternity of the child so the woman has
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access to the resources of all the men plus the control over all the sex and who gets it at what
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time and and whatever right so when you open it up that way you realize that like that gives the woman
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all the power yeah and that's what polyamory is because the woman still controls all the sex and then
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the paternity becomes the question of you know a question so what does the man get out of that
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like he gets access to women and sex it's like but most men don't really have that access like
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yeah the top 10 percent of guys have all the access anyways right so there's no and that and the man in
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that echelon is not going to commit to a woman in those conditions i just wonder like why i've said
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this all week like why would he do this he's got money he's not a bad looking guy it's like why would
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you pick to have your wife sleep with another dude the funny thing is he said the same thing a couple
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years ago if you look at his old videos but i think it's like a result of feminism in a way
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because because i i really think it's a result of feminism because feminism implies we're equal
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and and i don't think we're equal i think men are above women i think they're better at us at
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everything yes why yeah because every stat shows they are name something women are better at
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well it depends what you mean by men and women are equal because we're equal in the sense that
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we deserve respect but in terms of our strengths for example there's been studies that have shown
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that women are typically better with say empathy women are better with women are more women are
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more likely to kill newborns than the elderly well women can only have abortions but if you look at
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even even just newborns i mean it's estimated they killed a quarter of their kids like a hundred years
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ago like this idea that women are more empathetic it's like saying it's like saying one one party
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has a gun it's not that women are more empathetic it's that typically women are usually because of
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the way the female brain is wired we're more suited towards things like cooperation that's where there's
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a higher level of women in things like the art but that's psychology that's why i think that women
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can only be great under the authority of men because when we're on our own we just don't do well
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well we don't want to you know be like undermining women i mean we can say that women have
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strengths and men have strengths as well no i'm saying like i can't think of a way that women
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are their best selves without men like i think women say the same men also need women no so there's
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you can have examples of history of men that have been great did advancements in society and didn't
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they like they avoided women so they could they could um like i think isaac newton died a virgin
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there's some women are better men than charles childbearing i mean they but it's equal it's equal
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value because men like men you need a sperm and an egg that's 50 50. so there have been some
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societies for example that were matriarchal that were matrilineal in which there was a big presence
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of the mother and that was passed on by the grandmother none that stood the test of time
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well not in the west for example like in small tribes like for example in india
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in china in fact in china there's still a tribe i think it's called the masseur tribe and you have
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this very kind of female led tribe and it's not really feminist because it's not it doesn't
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stand the test of time though plus keyword keyword small tribes they don't advance that's the point
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well yeah because they keep the whole society within the frame of the tribe so it's not really the same
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as like a modern western society but they don't advance that's the whole point so so what i think i
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think that women women genuinely are not the best versions of themselves unless they're under the
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authority of the men look at what happens when we raise kids by ourselves we suck as single moms
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well look what happens when we we try to start companies ourselves it's like we can't even i
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couldn't even do what i'm doing without being in the in the building that a man built it's like women
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cannot be great without men but feminism tells them that we should be equal to men and so basically
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feminism is saying we are equals when they are our superiors and i think it translates into
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relationships and now you have women thinking that they should be leading relationships and having an equal
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say men men uh men do better work when women are watching that's been noted and studied yes it has
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because also as well boys as well in school are much better when there are girls in education
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that's absolutely that's actually not true that's absolutely the opposite but men perform better at
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sports when there are female spectators men give more money to charity when there are women this has
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been tested in fact like something like 20 females on a working team increases the performance of the
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team but it really increases the performance of the males right so you also need women for men to
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compete amongst themselves to be selected and to be the best versions but none of the things you
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mentioned actually build society where are the women watching the men building the buildings where are
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the women cheering on the buildings come on we all work a little harder when a girl is in the room
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no but where are the women where are the women you know i'm not making that argument i'm not making
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i'm not making that argument yeah did that you know to me like the way that i look at the way that i
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looked at let's say i sort of had to rationalize through this again because you know as as we grow
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up we all have to like find our place in the world like where we fit in and how the world relates to us
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and i had to like really think and understand like what women represented for me i mean again a personal
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anecdotal thing but for me it's like women were the feedback that were sent by the universe or by
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whatever higher power you believe in to tell me how i'm doing in life you know women are for a man
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like women women let me let me finish that point i'm serious i'm serious i'm serious because like
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if you're a guy and women are not choosing you like that's a problem and that's your problem like
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it's your damn problem if women are not choosing you right so there's definitely a feedback mechanism
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that women give to men and what women are saying to a man all the time is like here's how you're really
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doing man here's how you're really doing in society here's how you rank among you know women
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don't have realistic standards today sure and and so i don't i don't think i'm not making this as a
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relative argument saying on an absolute scale but no but you're saying you're saying you're saying
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today that women will tell you how you're doing in life so but i'm saying but i'm saying that argument
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might have worked wait wait let me finish that argument might have worked a hundred years ago but
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i'm saying i don't think that works today it does it's just way more polarized because women because
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women um it's like our standards are crazy high we only swipe so you're telling me if we only swipe
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five percent of the time on dating apps 95 of men are not good enough well so so the standards i'm not
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saying the standards is fair anymore it's changed good enough used to be good enough right good enough
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not good enough anymore now there's a more sort of a binary look at this it's like you're either
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in the top 10 or you're damn not right but the point is we cannot have a function like i just
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don't like shitting on the average man and i don't i don't like saying like that they're doing
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something wrong when we could not have a society without them like i i genuinely think we need to
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be thankful for the average man and saying they're not doing good enough because they have an average
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oh no i'm not making that argument no no but you're saying that like women like will tell you if
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you're doing good enough and like well good enough but therefore therefore women are are the primary
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like they get to decide what's good enough but i think it's men i think men decide what's good