JustPearlyThings - Dating Apps Are Dead (Call-in Show)

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00:14:43.960 I guess we're having issues on the websites.

00:14:44.960 I guess we're having issues on the websites.

00:14:45.960 Can they not hear me or what?

00:14:47.960 Is it just no volume frozen on my end?

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00:14:58.960 Guys, while we're waiting for a second, please like the video.

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00:15:12.960 And I'll read your comments right now in the chat.

00:15:14.960 Um, I want to wait on the website, but if you, if you're in the YouTube chat right now,

00:15:20.960 if you let me know where you've been meeting people, I know the volume's fine on YouTube,

00:15:25.960 but the audacity side, I guess we're having issues.

00:15:39.960 I think people in general are through with dating due to how difficult it's gotten yet.

00:15:45.960 Look, the women are through with it.

00:15:47.960 Cause we were sick.

00:15:48.960 We're like, ah, Chad's treat us better, but we love it.

00:15:51.960 It's like, you know what women it's so crazy because it's like, here's our two meters, right?

00:16:00.960 Our meter for liking someone as a person and our meter for wanting to have sex with them.

00:16:06.960 So it's like the opposite.

00:16:07.960 So when we want to have sex with them, we hate them as a person.

00:16:10.960 Right.

00:16:11.960 When we start to like them as a person, we don't want to have sex with them.

00:16:15.960 So the only way to spice up your relationship is to make your girlfriend hate you as a person

00:16:20.960 a little bit more.

00:16:21.960 Right.

00:16:22.960 It's like, have a week of just saying no to everything that she asks you.

00:16:26.960 The women are going to be so mad at me.

00:16:31.960 Look, but it's true.

00:16:32.960 Or like, can you do this?

00:16:34.960 Can you do this for me?

00:16:37.960 And then you're like, do it yourself, bitch.

00:16:40.960 Let me know how that goes.

00:16:41.960 I'm just kidding.

00:16:42.960 Um, so Michael said, I met people at school and at work.

00:16:47.960 Well, how has that been going?

00:16:51.960 I mean, that's that, you know, here's the problem.

00:16:53.960 If you meet people in a place where you have mutual friends.

00:16:56.960 Now the woman can use those friends against you to ruin your reputation.

00:17:00.960 We really, our way that we get you is through groups.

00:17:04.960 You know, every time I get a match on a dating app, it's either a catfish or a single mother

00:17:11.960 looking for a dad for her kids.

00:17:13.960 I'm fit and I'm not, and I'm not doing bad financially.

00:17:23.960 The doing good things should be rewarded with sex.

00:17:26.960 Okay.

00:17:27.960 Then do you know?

00:17:28.960 Oh, let me just do make a wish.

00:17:32.960 Let me just do.

00:17:33.960 Okay.

00:17:34.960 Then women, women, women that are modest, right?

00:17:39.960 Should be rewarded.

00:17:40.960 But are we?

00:17:41.960 No.

00:17:42.960 What?

00:17:43.960 And I'm just being honest here.

00:17:44.960 What reward do women get for modest?

00:17:46.960 You know, I know what you guys are thinking.

00:17:47.960 You're like, what?

00:17:49.960 I reward modest women.

00:17:51.960 I only date modest women.

00:17:52.960 Really, John?

00:17:54.960 That's what you were thinking on the first date.

00:17:56.960 You were really thinking, wow, I'm impressed by the modesty, not I'm impressed by her tits

00:18:01.960 and ass.

00:18:02.960 Come on.

00:18:03.960 Like, let's just, let's just be real here.

00:18:05.960 The reason, the reason women are so naked nowadays is because it gets them more attention.

00:18:09.960 Everything starts with the male gaze, right?

00:18:12.960 That's where everything starts.

00:18:14.960 You get nothing.

00:18:15.960 If you, so you guys are like, can I just be rewarded for, can I be rewarded in, in a fallen

00:18:22.960 world, right?

00:18:23.960 I'm not saying God's kingdom could be different.

00:18:25.960 I'm talking about this world right now.

00:18:28.960 There are billion, there are women that are going to be billionaires on OnlyFans, okay?

00:18:33.960 That's this world, right?

00:18:37.960 Right?

00:18:38.960 So, if I said, hey, women, be modest.

00:18:42.960 And they're like, do I get to make more money?

00:18:45.960 Probably not, you know?

00:18:48.960 And so you guys, it's like, be nice to women.

00:18:53.960 And then you guys are like, am I going to get laid?

00:18:55.960 And I'm like, well, probably not.

00:18:58.960 These are the, it gets bad attention.

00:19:01.960 Oh.

00:19:02.960 Okay.

00:19:03.960 Yeah.

00:19:04.960 Um, now there's a level, right?

00:19:08.960 But I'm sorry, there's too many women that are making a lot of money off of this stuff.

00:19:14.960 If women are hot enough, men don't really care.

00:19:17.960 They can dress modest and put themselves.

00:19:23.960 Yeah.

00:19:24.960 Okay.

00:19:25.960 We're in 2025.

00:19:26.960 What happens for sex or relationships?

00:19:29.960 What does a woman get for chastity?

00:19:31.960 Now, are there some blue-pilled guys that might do the waiting till marriage thing?

00:19:37.960 Okay.

00:19:38.960 Now we're up on the website.

00:19:39.960 There are.

00:19:40.960 But yeah.

00:19:41.960 Okay.

00:19:42.960 Let's, now what do the women care about?

00:19:44.960 The women care about hot guys.

00:19:45.960 Okay.

00:19:46.960 That's, let's just be honest here.

00:19:47.960 Women want Leonardo DiCaprio.

00:19:49.960 They don't care about money anymore.

00:19:52.960 They want, that's like the ultimate end game is the hot guy.

00:19:56.960 So do women get, by being chast, like being, doing the chastity thing, are women rewarded

00:20:02.960 for it?

00:20:03.960 Are women like, like if you go into a church, are the guys typically hot that are going to

00:20:10.960 reward chast?

00:20:11.960 Now I'm not saying you should or shouldn't do this.

00:20:14.960 Right.

00:20:15.960 Just like, I'm not saying you should or shouldn't be a nice guy or a bad boy, but you know,

00:20:21.960 I'm just trying to explain the incentives.

00:20:23.960 Everyone's like, Oh, how is this fallen?

00:20:26.960 How are women whores?

00:20:27.960 And I'm like, it's so easy.

00:20:29.960 It's so easy to like point out the incentive structure.

00:20:33.960 Kim Kardashian is a billionaire.

00:20:36.960 She had a sex tape leaked.

00:20:38.960 So is Paris Hilton.

00:20:40.960 But why would women do it?

00:20:42.960 It's like, now, could you argue you could go the marriage route?

00:20:48.960 I mean, yeah, but the women, this is what the women want.

00:20:53.960 We want the ultimate amount of freedom.

00:20:55.960 So getting to do whatever we want.

00:20:58.960 And at the same time, having a lot of money.

00:21:01.960 And at the same time, getting to have sex with hot guys.

00:21:04.960 That's why women look up to Kim Kardashian more than Melania Trump.

00:21:09.960 Who gets more of those three things?

00:21:12.960 Who gets more praise and attention, right?

00:21:15.960 Now I love Melania, right?

00:21:17.960 And she does have a female fan base too.

00:21:20.960 But I'm just, the same way, like, are men looking up more to Leonardo DiCaprio?

00:21:26.960 Or are they looking up more to, I don't know, some, who, what's that pastor's name?

00:21:36.960 That pastor, that man, Russell Brand, I guess, good guy, right?

00:21:43.960 Tom, like, yeah.

00:21:46.960 When it comes to women, even though Tom Brady did the right thing.

00:21:50.960 Like, quote unquote, like the religious thing.

00:21:53.960 And from a dating point of view, they're going to look up more to Leo.

00:21:56.960 Because that's freaking awesome, right?

00:21:58.960 From the male lens.

00:21:59.960 You get to date a new, the hot 19 year old every year.

00:22:03.960 For women, it's like Kim Kardashian is awesome.

00:22:06.960 Because she gets the ultimate amount of freedom.

00:22:08.960 The ultimate amount of male attention.

00:22:10.960 And she dates high level men, no matter how much sexuality she puts out there.

00:22:17.960 She had kins with Kanye.

00:22:18.960 She dated Pete Davidson after.

00:22:20.960 I mean, you can say what you want.

00:22:21.960 Women like him.

00:22:22.960 It's not really, um...

00:22:25.960 Now, she's going to age out, right?

00:22:27.960 It's going to happen.

00:22:29.960 But I just want to explain the incentives here.

00:22:32.960 You know, Kim Kardashian has the freedom to divorce.

00:22:36.960 Like, if Melania wants to divorce, her whole...

00:22:40.960 She's kind of cooked, right?

00:22:41.960 Her whole brand is done.

00:22:42.960 Kim Kardashian can divorce.

00:22:44.960 And she doesn't even have to worry about being a good person, right?

00:22:48.960 Like, the public hates her anyway.

00:22:50.960 But she gets a billion dollars.

00:22:52.960 She's completely in control of what happens to the billion dollars.

00:22:55.960 And on top of that, she gets child support of 200k a month.

00:23:00.960 And kids from one of the greatest rappers of all time.

00:23:03.960 Now, you might think, well, Kim Kardashian can't get doctors.

00:23:07.960 She can't get lawyers.

00:23:08.960 She can't get classy men.

00:23:10.960 Do young women...

00:23:11.960 Now, we've got to think about what young women want, right?

00:23:14.960 What old women want doesn't matter.

00:23:17.960 Like, what I want...

00:23:18.960 I'm an old lady, you know.

00:23:20.960 But, like, the young, the 19-year-olds...

00:23:22.960 Because they have the most buying power in the market, right?

00:23:25.960 It's kind of like the same way we can look at the most, I guess you could say, hot and clouded men, what they pick to see what men really want.

00:23:34.960 Well, the 19-year-olds, are they thinking, I want a doctor and a lawyer?

00:23:38.960 So you guys are like, you're trying to logic with illogical people, right?

00:23:42.960 We're an illogical group of people.

00:23:44.960 So you're saying, well, Kim Kardashian can't get the classy men.

00:23:47.960 Women don't want classy men.

00:23:49.960 They want clouded men.

00:23:51.960 Unfortunately.

00:23:52.960 I don't say this as a good thing.

00:23:53.960 The same way, like, you know, men liking big tits, you know.

00:23:58.960 That can blind a man.

00:23:59.960 The same way clout can blind a man for women, right?

00:24:04.960 So, like, in the female lens, Kim Kardashian is the ultimate winner.

00:24:10.960 Now, she's going to turn into, like, a Madonna, right?

00:24:14.960 I mean, you know, men can see the long game.

00:24:18.960 But, I mean, we're going to die.

00:24:21.960 I think the average woman lives to be 75.

00:24:24.960 So, Kim K is still thirst trapping at, like, 45, 55, 60.

00:24:29.960 So, I guess the third, like, the last third of her life is going to blow.

00:24:34.960 But even so, I bet she could still get in the last year.

00:24:38.960 Because what you guys think is women age out, and they kind of do age out.

00:24:42.960 But she could still go for, like, a has-been that's, like, 30 years older.

00:24:48.960 I don't know.

00:24:49.960 I'd have to think about more of who she could go for.

00:24:52.960 But you guys get the idea.

00:24:53.960 She's just going to have to go for the 80-year-olds in her 50s.

00:25:00.960 It upset me that Pearl said women are not rewarded for modesty.

00:25:06.960 Okay, well, you can be upset.

00:25:09.960 But you have to understand, you guys are looking at this from a logical point of view.

00:25:14.960 You're thinking the modesty is rewarded.

00:25:16.960 But, like, the female lens, again, we want, like, and I'm not saying we should want this.

00:25:24.960 But I'm saying this is, like, the female lens.

00:25:26.960 Women want the most clouded guy possible.

00:25:28.960 They want the most freedom possible.

00:25:30.960 And they want the most money possible.

00:25:32.960 Now, the married woman isn't going to get the most freedom, right?

00:25:37.960 So, like, everyone's like, why are women becoming sex workers instead of wives?

00:25:41.960 It's so obvious to me.

00:25:43.960 Because those three things are what women, like, ruthlessly go for.

00:25:49.960 Why are the Kardashians getting, they're not getting necessarily rich guys.

00:25:53.960 Like, they're not going to get the elite, like, billionaire class.

00:25:56.960 But they'll get clouded guys.

00:25:58.960 Like, some rapper will take Kim K for a couple of years.

00:26:01.960 You know what I mean?

00:26:02.960 There's some, and that's, you know, her.

00:26:06.960 And, you know, Kylie Jenner had a kid by ASAP Rocky.

00:26:12.960 And somehow she's still with one of the most clouded, you know, now she's going to the white guys.

00:26:17.960 You know, white men in Hollywood.

00:26:19.960 Not the women I'm interested in, Pearl.

00:26:22.960 Well, you guys aren't the clouded guys.

00:26:26.960 Like, and I'm trying to, I'm not even trying to say this to be mean, right?

00:26:31.960 But, oh, young women don't want that.

00:26:34.960 Have you seen them at concerts?

00:26:36.960 Yeah, okay, okay.

00:26:38.960 Young women want the gangsters, the thugs, and the rappers.

00:26:42.960 Well, that's going to be dependent.

00:26:44.960 So, women's bad boy archetype, and I'm going to get back into the topic, but I'm kind of spitting right now.

00:26:50.960 So, women's bad boy archetype highly depends on where they're from, right?

00:26:58.960 So, a woman, like, I'll give you an example.

00:27:04.960 Ivanka Trump's bad boy is going to, like, okay, Giselle's bad boy is going to be the jujitsu instructor, right?

00:27:12.960 It's going to be the fighter.

00:27:14.960 Where a girl that grew up in the hood's bad boy is going to be a straight up criminal.

00:27:18.960 Do you know what I mean?

00:27:19.960 Like, it's going to be a straight up, a literal criminal.

00:27:21.960 Where a white suburban girl, like, for example, my vegan activist teacher I know, he's like a vegan activist, and he did well with the Christian, you know, because he's the liberal vegan activist, and these Christian women are trying to change him.

00:27:37.960 That's their bad boy.

00:27:38.960 He did well with them, right?

00:27:40.960 So, like, the bad boy isn't necessarily always going to be the same.

00:27:45.960 I don't know if that makes sense.

00:27:46.960 Like, maybe her bad boy is everyone's a simp around her, and you're just the only guy that ever told her no in her life, which is very tough for women.

00:27:53.960 We don't hear no often, like, or ever.

00:27:57.960 So, it's like, you know, the guy will be like, no, you can't have that.

00:28:01.960 And she's like, I love you forever, right?

00:28:03.960 It's really highly dependent.

00:28:06.960 Class dates class.

00:28:08.960 Yeah, but there's still, like, the least classy guy in that class.

00:28:11.960 I know Gucci third leg, but all the girls he was given herpes to, I know, disgusting, right?

00:28:18.960 But they were all, like, kind of hood or OnlyFans models.

00:28:22.960 So, like, the guy with herpes, I guess, is going to be the bad boy.

00:28:25.960 I mean, that's disgusting, but I guess I'd be a nun's bad boy.

00:28:30.960 You know, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:28:31.960 It's, every girl's, like, bad boy is different, and the same guy can be a good guy to one girl.

00:28:38.960 I'll give you an example.

00:28:41.960 So, now, the reason Tom Brady got screwed was he didn't look at Giselle's dating history.

00:28:46.960 He really care about it.

00:28:47.960 And men kind of, they're going to love him forever, right?

00:28:49.960 So, anyways, Giselle obviously has to divorce Tom.

00:28:53.960 Obviously, right?

00:28:55.960 So, but had Tom Brady just went and got himself, he should have went to, where does Tom Brady live?

00:29:04.960 He should have went to, like, Boston College or something and found himself a nice little 19-year-old.

00:29:10.960 Because now, Tom Brady is going to be the most exciting thing that 19-year-old's ever seen.

00:29:17.960 Now, that's until she meets his teammates and leaves him eventually, right?

00:29:21.960 But I'm sure that seven years is going to be a very good experience.

00:29:26.960 I was actually talking to my friend, I have a friend, and he got tickets to, like, he got to meet basically all the people at, what is that concert called in the middle of nowhere where it's, like, what is it?

00:29:41.960 Everyone, I can't imagine how people find it fun, but it's, like, rolling loud or, it's going on right now.

00:29:47.960 Coachella, that's it, Coachella.

00:29:49.960 And he got, like, so he got to meet all the artists.

00:29:52.960 And I asked him, I'm like, did you bring your girlfriend?

00:29:54.960 And he's like, no.

00:29:55.960 Why would I bring my girlfriend to meet, like, clouded men?

00:29:59.960 That's like a recipe for disaster.

00:30:01.960 So maybe if he left her at home and, like, washed her, I don't know.

00:30:06.960 He went to the University of Michigan.

00:30:10.960 Yeah, that's what I mean.

00:30:11.960 Like, he just, he, he, and, you know, women, like, we're in 2025.

00:30:17.960 Your girl got banged out by somebody.

00:30:19.960 You just got to kind of figure out what type of guys she goes for.

00:30:23.960 And are you going to be as, like, cool?

00:30:27.960 Because, you know, if Tom Brady was just honest with himself, he should have just looked at Leo and just left.

00:30:34.960 He should have looked at Leo.

00:30:37.960 Like, you know, another one is Haley Bieber.

00:30:40.960 I predicted divorce for her and the reason why.

00:30:42.960 She dated Drake before Justin Bieber.

00:30:44.960 Now, Justin Bieber is a world superstar.

00:30:46.960 And I do feel bad for these men because I do think they pass these women around.

00:30:50.960 Like, they're so attractive.

00:30:52.960 These women get DM'd by everybody.

00:30:54.960 But, like, Haley Bieber is in, has naked pictures on Instagram being married to Justin Bieber.

00:31:03.960 Everyone wanted to date him, right?

00:31:05.960 Everybody, like, when I was in high school, he was the guy.

00:31:09.960 So, but she got banged out by Drake or allegedly, right?

00:31:15.960 I mean, who knows?

00:31:17.960 But, allegedly, she, she was partying with Drake.

00:31:21.960 She was too close to Drake.

00:31:23.960 But the bad boy is never the type who Jesus wants you to be, Pearl, LOL.

00:31:30.960 Oh, yeah.

00:31:31.960 Like, like Jesus.

00:31:33.960 Jesus couldn't even stop these hoes, right?

00:31:36.960 I mean, the Garden of Eden.

00:31:38.960 Like, it's like the apple is basically being a whore, right?

00:31:43.960 So, Eve, Adam was like, you know, maybe he shouldn't do that.

00:31:48.960 And God was like, maybe he shouldn't do that.

00:31:50.960 And Eve was like, nah, let's ruin everything for eternity.

00:31:55.960 It's a fallen world, right?

00:31:56.960 Like, I don't think this world, and I'm just being honest, guys.

00:32:01.960 And I'm going to do a show on whores later.

00:32:04.960 And it was kind of blackpilling.

00:32:08.960 I looked at the biggest whores from my college.

00:32:11.960 I looked at the biggest whores from my college.

00:32:15.960 Don't you live at home in your folks' mansion, Richie says.

00:32:18.960 Mind your business, Richie.

00:32:20.960 Do I ask you where you live, all right?

00:32:22.960 Now, they were all married to pretty attractive guys.

00:32:27.960 I got to be honest.

00:32:28.960 And some with kids, and I was thinking, I'm like, there is no.

00:32:33.960 And I honestly was looking at the girls that, like, didn't really have a reputation like that.

00:32:39.960 And what was the common denominator?

00:32:41.960 The whores were hotter.

00:32:42.960 I mean, it's like not a fair world.

00:32:44.960 Now, I don't know what will happen in 10 years.

00:32:46.960 I'm 28, not 48.

00:32:49.960 They could all get divorced.

00:32:51.960 I don't know.

00:32:52.960 And I like to think that'll happen.

00:32:54.960 Because, you know, I think there's a part of you that thinks, like, people get punished for doing bad things.

00:32:59.960 I don't think that's true.

00:33:01.960 And the older I get, I'm like, I don't think that's true at all.

00:33:06.960 I really don't.

00:33:09.960 It looks like it's working now.

00:33:13.960 Are we good on the website?

00:33:15.960 We are good on the website now?

00:33:16.960 Right.

00:33:17.960 Okay.

00:33:18.960 Sorry, guys.

00:33:19.960 I had to.

00:33:20.960 Let me, let me pull up the new chat.

00:33:22.960 I think there's a new one.

00:33:25.960 Pearl Reed, women are better off going their marriage route.

00:33:28.960 The richest woman in the world got her wealth through marriage.

00:33:31.960 Well, yeah, but Doug MPA, you're, you're proving my point because women, the richest woman in the world.

00:33:38.960 So again, the woman with the most freedom to do whatever she wants, the most money and the most access to hot guys, which I guess Mackenzie, like you're thinking of this from a man's point of view, because a man would just think straight dollars.

00:33:55.960 But that's not what women are in it for.

00:33:59.960 It's really, they just, we just want to get a bunch of attention for being hot, take off our clothes and bang hot dudes.

00:34:05.960 I mean, that's like when it comes down to it.

00:34:08.960 So, like, you know, because women look up to Kim Kardashian, they don't look up to Mackenzie Bezos.

00:34:16.960 Do you know what I mean? Like when I see like the women that are being hailed on social media, I much, I see Kim way more than Mackenzie.

00:34:27.960 Like, you know, Kylie Jenner is another.

00:34:30.960 It's woman that can make every bad decision possible and still bang a hot guy at the end.

00:34:37.960 So again, you're looking at, like, if women were better off doing that, then we would do it.

00:34:43.960 Like you have to understand, people tend to work in their best interest.

00:34:47.960 So even the quote unquote good decision.

00:34:52.960 She's a billionaire through divorce, which is the wrong decision.

00:34:56.960 Right now, you could say in the long run, but I mean, now she's just going to go be a side piece to a Chad.

00:35:05.960 So now it's like even better for her, if I'm being honest, because she gets to go be a side piece to a Chad and get banged out by a Chad and you get to pay for it.

00:35:14.960 Congratulations, fellas.

00:35:16.960 You're funding the female fantasy.

00:35:19.960 Women are rewarded with protection, food, shelter, and what men provide.

00:35:24.960 Well, yeah, but if you're saying that women are rewarded through marriage with that, well, yeah, but you don't get the excitement.

00:35:34.960 Women, that's what we want.

00:35:36.960 You got like, you're putting your brain into a, like women, we like the excitement.

00:35:41.960 We like the hot guys.

00:35:42.960 We like getting naked.

00:35:43.960 That's our thing.

00:35:44.960 Right?

00:35:45.960 So, you know, you're like, but you get protection and provision.

00:35:52.960 Well, but if women divorce you, they get the provisioning, they get the money.

00:35:57.960 Um, they, we also have pretty easy jobs.

00:36:01.960 We can get the money from to shelter.

00:36:04.960 Like we can go like what, this isn't the 1900s.

00:36:07.960 We don't need you to build us a house.

00:36:09.960 Like you can get an apartment.

00:36:11.960 Like, I'm not trying to be rude, but it's, I'm just being honest.

00:36:17.960 Like, cause you know, people are like scratching their heads.

00:36:20.960 They're like, why are women making these decisions?

00:36:22.960 Well, I think it's really obvious why we're making these decisions.

00:36:27.960 You will never mind, find more, a more wretched hive of scum and villain, villain, villainy.

00:36:35.960 Pearl said, first off, mind your business.

00:36:38.960 Yeah.

00:36:39.960 I mean, where do you live?

00:36:40.960 It's like, shut up.

00:36:43.960 You know, I'm not trying to die out here.

00:36:48.960 People don't always love me.

00:36:49.960 You know what I mean?

00:36:51.960 It's just, now I gotta be honest when it comes to modesty.

00:36:57.960 Now there's three types of women that I found.

00:37:00.960 Now this is just my experience from playing in volleyball.

00:37:07.960 And I'd usually find there's three types of women on a team.

00:37:11.960 Actually, I'm gonna save that for next show.

00:37:15.960 This, I could spit about this, but I'll save it for next show.

00:37:18.960 I really gotta finish this article.

00:37:20.960 Okay, so back to the dating apps.

00:37:22.960 All right.

00:37:23.960 Psychologist, researchers, and frustrated singles,

00:37:27.960 the problem of dating app burnout becomes beyond the help of AI.

00:37:31.960 Fixing the apps and love, by extension,

00:37:34.960 comes back to understanding the way we connect, why we connect,

00:37:37.960 and where we've gone wrong.

00:37:38.960 It's just scroll, scroll, scroll.

00:37:42.960 Emma Elizabeth has three dating apps on her phone.

00:37:45.960 Do you know, women are the only ones that could get...

00:37:49.960 When I was on the apps, guys, and I like to think,

00:37:53.960 I'm a mid, right?

00:37:55.960 I'm, you know, I'm all right.

00:37:57.960 But I'm not even like an eight plus.

00:38:01.960 I had thousands of matches, okay?

00:38:03.960 Thousands.

00:38:04.960 And we are the only ones that can get thousands of choices and still complain.

00:38:14.960 Can you imagine having thousands of choices as a man?

00:38:17.960 Like, can you imagine that, right?

00:38:20.960 But women, we have thousands.

00:38:22.960 And it's like, well, we hate the matches.

00:38:24.960 Well, there's not one in there.

00:38:26.960 Yeah, okay.

00:38:27.960 I'm sure some you'll get, like, banged out.

00:38:31.960 Whatever.

00:38:32.960 They don't call you back.

00:38:33.960 But none?

00:38:35.960 You can't find one that'll call you back?

00:38:38.960 You're that...

00:38:39.960 Are we that...

00:38:40.960 Are you that insufferable?

00:38:42.960 Okay.

00:38:43.960 Bumble and Raya.

00:38:47.960 Markets excel for the rich, famous, beautiful, and powerful.

00:38:51.960 But none are on rotation.

00:38:53.960 Elizabeth, 40.

00:38:54.960 Is a leading...

00:38:55.960 I mean, yeah, you're 40.

00:38:57.960 That's why you hate the dating apps.

00:38:59.960 Like, but go for the 60-year-old.

00:39:01.960 It's like women.

00:39:03.960 You know, men, they'll...

00:39:06.960 Like, men will learn the styles women like or go live where the hot women are.

00:39:11.960 But women, it's like, we can't play the game on hard mode.

00:39:14.960 I mean, if you're 40, you can kind of be young to somebody.

00:39:19.960 Now, like, I'm sure there's a 70-year-old that would love to be with you.

00:39:25.960 Right?

00:39:26.960 Or like a charming 60-year-old, you know.

00:39:29.960 Now, maybe it's a little weird to date that old.

00:39:32.960 But, I mean, it's probably weird for them to date women as old as you.

00:39:36.960 So, it's like, you know.

00:39:39.960 I'm just saying, like, we could kind of go where we're wanted as women.

00:39:43.960 Like, there was a guy that called in that was...

00:39:46.960 I think he was 60, dating a 40-year-old.

00:39:48.960 And he looked like a very happy man.

00:39:50.960 You know, like, no guy's gonna complain if he gets 20 years on, like, you know.

00:39:55.960 Like, you know.

00:39:58.960 Now, okay, you might not be, like, getting celebrities.

00:40:01.960 But there's gotta be one guy hot enough for you to be happy with.

00:40:06.960 Right?

00:40:09.960 And plus, at 40, you don't even have to sell purity anymore.

00:40:12.960 You can just give it out for free until one sticks around.

00:40:15.960 Like, that's what I'd tell you to do.

00:40:17.960 At that age, I would tell you, there's no point in selling purity.

00:40:22.960 Because the men are gonna assume you're banged out anyway.

00:40:24.960 They really are.

00:40:25.960 You might as well just go for it.

00:40:27.960 But in the last year...

00:40:30.960 And I would say that as a strategy.

00:40:32.960 Because if you make any guy wait at 40, he's just gonna hate you later.

00:40:35.960 He's gonna be like, what the fuck am I...

00:40:36.960 You're 40.

00:40:37.960 What am I...

00:40:38.960 What are you waiting for?

00:40:39.960 I mean, if you find him attractive enough to bang him, I just...

00:40:42.960 That's what I would tell you to do at 40, Elizabeth.

00:40:45.960 Okay.

00:40:46.960 But in the last year, she's just been on one date by her own choice.

00:40:49.960 She's had some bad experiences.

00:40:50.960 The last person she matched with, reportedly from the United Nations, found her number on

00:40:55.960 the website and sent her a barrage of dick pics.

00:40:58.960 Her experience...

00:40:59.960 I mean, block him.

00:41:00.960 It's like women.

00:41:01.960 The...

00:41:02.960 It's so easy.

00:41:03.960 Do you know what?

00:41:04.960 I've been sent unsolicited stuff, especially on, like, you know, being a social media person.

00:41:10.960 And on Instagram, like, it's bad because you have to, like, click...

00:41:14.960 Sometimes I won't realize what it is.

00:41:16.960 And it's like, ah, but then it ends because I block them and then I never have to deal

00:41:19.960 with it again.

00:41:20.960 So, yeah, it's annoying.

00:41:21.960 And sometimes I'm like, ah, you know, but it's like...

00:41:24.960 And I don't think women are getting as many as they're, like, saying.

00:41:28.960 That's my other thing.

00:41:29.960 Because I'd say I'm pretty...

00:41:32.960 I'm not that famous, but I'm like...

00:41:35.960 I would say I get more attention on the internet than the average woman.

00:41:39.960 And I don't think it's that big of a problem for me.

00:41:42.960 Like, I think the Instagram filters and Twitter filters just kind of filter it out.

00:41:46.960 Like, it's just never been a huge issue for me, personally.

00:41:51.960 So, knowing that, $20...

00:41:56.960 I used to be nice to my girl, but I started being mean and not caring about her feelings.

00:42:01.960 She does more for me and I get laid for more.

00:42:03.960 Women are crazy because she really thinks I'm an asshole.

00:42:06.960 I know.

00:42:07.960 It's like...

00:42:08.960 Do you know what?

00:42:12.960 I think men and women, we both hate when the stupid stuff works.

00:42:17.960 I can't play my cards here, okay?

00:42:20.960 I can't...

00:42:21.960 I can't tell my cards as a woman of things that work, okay?

00:42:24.960 I really can't because I can't give away secrets.

00:42:28.960 But even as a woman, there's things where you're like, this frickin' world...

00:42:34.960 Like, there was a girl on my team and she dated one of the hottest guys on campus.

00:42:40.960 He was so hot.

00:42:41.960 And I'm telling you, she had two voices.

00:42:44.960 And her other voice was like an octave higher than her normal voice.

00:42:49.960 And I swear to God, he ate that up because she was dating one of the most attractive men on campus.

00:42:53.960 Game is game.

00:42:58.960 Like, she would have two personalities.

00:42:59.960 She'd be a bitch to us, but then she'd go to him and I'm like, what on earth?

00:43:04.960 Where did...

00:43:05.960 But hey, you know...

00:43:06.960 Okay.

00:43:07.960 I gotta stop.

00:43:08.960 I gotta stop spitting.

00:43:10.960 I gotta stop.

00:43:11.960 I gotta finish this article.

00:43:12.960 It's like Pearl Focus.

00:43:14.960 Alright.

00:43:15.960 Um...

00:43:16.960 The source of Elizabeth's dissatisfaction is also simple.

00:43:20.960 After years with apps hovering on her phone, she considers for them a time waster.

00:43:26.960 The disconnect between the images people are putting online and what they show up on the date is exhausting.

00:43:32.960 You can go into this vortex and just scroll, scroll, scroll.

00:43:35.960 You get the icky ick and you just think, this is too much.

00:43:38.960 She isn't paying for any of the premium versions of the app.

00:43:41.960 I think the minute you pay, maybe it's better.

00:43:43.960 I just don't want to pay for it.

00:43:44.960 I prefer to meet someone in real life.

00:43:46.960 Look, at 40, you gotta pay.

00:43:48.960 Okay.

00:43:49.960 Because I can't imagine...

00:43:50.960 Like, it's gotta be a dumpster fire out there.

00:43:53.960 So, at 40, you definitely got like...

00:43:57.960 At 40, I would spend 10 grand on a matchmaker, a personal trainer and a stylist.

00:44:03.960 That's what I would do at 40.

00:44:04.960 I'd maybe invest in a boob job and Botox.

00:44:07.960 I mean, the guys will say, oh, we don't like that.

00:44:09.960 Shut up.

00:44:10.960 You guys don't even know.

00:44:11.960 Like, I mean, you guys...

00:44:13.960 Okay, do you know what?

00:44:14.960 You guys don't like fake stuff if you know it's fake.

00:44:19.960 But you guys don't always know when it's fake.

00:44:21.960 Now, the women that go too far, lip filler, yeah, that stuff is nasty.

00:44:27.960 But I've seen women get nose jobs and that shit changed their life.

00:44:32.960 I've seen women get good boob jobs and that shit.

00:44:34.960 Like, you guys can't...

00:44:36.960 What you guys can tell me is like...

00:44:39.960 When you guys tell me things, it's like when men tell...

00:44:43.960 Like, when women are like, oh, we like the nice guys and you guys roll your eyes.

00:44:47.960 That's how I feel about natural.

00:44:50.960 Right?

00:44:51.960 But the thing is, the women can never tell the guy.

00:44:55.960 If you tell him, you ruined it for him.

00:44:58.960 You can't, like, deny till you die, ladies.

00:45:01.960 I'm not talking about morality here.

00:45:03.960 I'm talking about the best results.

00:45:04.960 And the work has to be so good you can't tell.

00:45:07.960 That's the answer.

00:45:08.960 There's a catch, though.

00:45:09.960 I think people are scared to put themselves forward when they're out and about.

00:45:13.960 So we're in a lose-lose situation.

00:45:15.960 It's a common feeling among the disillusioned.

00:45:18.960 The apps have become the dominant area for the dating at the cost of real-life meet-cutes.

00:45:24.960 For the first few years after the apps arrived on the scenes, this was fine, if not fun.

00:45:32.960 Today, the fear that the love of your life might be stuck behind a paywall and also less likely to ask for your number at a bar is accurate.

00:45:39.960 Maybe the apps need to get some sort of viral disease, says Elizabeth, and we will just turn them all off for a while.

00:45:46.960 Zach Seidler is an Australian clinical psychologist and researcher who has studied connections between masculinity, intimacy, and men's mental health.

00:45:55.960 While he doesn't think that the apps have reduced our abilities to pick up in real life, they have fundamentally shifted our psychology.

00:46:03.960 Do the apps change our interactive abilities in a real-life pub? No.

00:46:08.960 But what the apps have done has made us less likely to get out there and, therefore, shifted our competence and confidence to having that interaction.

00:46:15.960 There's nothing with us that's broken, just a lack of willingness and practice.

00:46:19.960 However, he says that the apps have changed the way we evaluate potential partners.

00:46:23.960 When you meet someone at a pub, you have a voice in the back of your head asking,

00:46:27.960 is this the best option for me?

00:46:29.960 That's what women think.

00:46:30.960 Men think good enough.

00:46:32.960 Men think, is she going to fuck?

00:46:34.960 Men think, am I banging this chick tonight?

00:46:37.960 Women think, is this the best?

00:46:40.960 That's what women, men think.

00:46:43.960 Good enough.

00:46:44.960 I'll do it.

00:46:45.960 Would.

00:46:48.960 And this was far less of an issue in our parents' generations because they didn't have perceived access to everyone.

00:46:54.960 And it is perceived.

00:46:55.960 We do not have access to everyone that we think we do.

00:46:58.960 Men don't.

00:46:59.960 Women pretty much do.

00:47:00.960 If you're hot enough as a girl, the sky is the limit, really.

00:47:04.960 If you catfish enough and you're hot enough.

00:47:07.960 It's like, why do women catfish?

00:47:09.960 Well, they can get flew out by someone better than you.

00:47:12.960 Sorry, fellas.

00:47:13.960 Sorry.

00:47:14.960 You know, I mean, you're like, why do women post ass pics?

00:47:17.960 Because some guy's going to see it and think, yes.

00:47:20.960 The underlying psychology mechanism that's really changing our faith in our decision making abilities.

00:47:27.960 Run club, book clubs, or get your mates to swipe.

00:47:30.960 Is that, have you guys been meeting at run clubs or book clubs?

00:47:33.960 So, events.

00:47:34.960 Eventbrite 2024 dating report found that American millennials, 70% would have preferred to meet in person because they think it feels more meaningful.

00:47:42.960 Nearly half would like to meet their friends, while 34% are open to meeting someone simply going about their day.

00:47:48.960 Their dream spots, coffee shops, bookstores, music ventures, libraries, and the outdoors.

00:47:53.960 What are the dream spots for you?

00:47:55.960 What are the...

00:47:57.960 Meanwhile, just over a quarter, 27% of Gen Z and millennials anticipate they'll meet a potential romantic partner at a social or community clubs.

00:48:06.960 Enter run clubs across the world.

00:48:08.960 These clubs have exploded in popularity in the next couple of years.

00:48:11.960 Park Run, arguably the biggest run club in the world, has some 370,000 people taking place in its weekly five-kilometer format.

00:48:20.960 In Australia, the number of runners and volunteers has climbed 23% last year to 77,000.

00:48:25.960 Whether one should try to find true love while sweating it out is a tricky matter for run club coordinators.

00:48:30.960 After all, it's one thing to strike up a friendly chat as you pound the pavement.

00:48:35.960 It's another to discover your once innocent run club has become a hunting ground in your lycra-clad prey.

00:48:42.960 Look, you get men and women together, people are fucking.

00:48:45.960 I mean, it's just...

00:48:46.960 It is what it is.

00:48:47.960 Like, men and women at work, they start hooking up, right?

00:48:50.960 Men and women at a run club, at a gym, pew.

00:48:54.960 Some run clubs have popped up specifically for singles.

00:48:58.960 Tinder itself has one.

00:48:59.960 A new dating app called Lunge has its own run club where everyone is single and wears black.

00:49:04.960 To be honest, I'm tired of trying to find someone.

00:49:07.960 I'm always like the friend or brother.

00:49:10.960 Why keep trying if all they want is unrealistic expectations?

00:49:14.960 It's not worth it.

00:49:16.960 Really?

00:49:17.960 It's not worth enough for a hot piece of tail?

00:49:19.960 What if she's really hot?

00:49:20.960 You never know.

00:49:22.960 Okay.

00:49:23.960 But plenty of other businesses are finding ways to tap into the dissatisfaction without resorting to physical exercise.

00:49:31.960 Amy Lynn, the founder of events companies No Swipes, considers the illusion of endless options and such a premium being placed on any given match to be the real culprits behind dating app burnout.

00:49:45.960 First, coffee, then air.

00:49:46.960 Rather than collude, women dislike their husbands before no fault before divorce.

00:49:50.960 Maybe women are victims of FOMO from social pressure.

00:49:54.960 Oh, my God.

00:49:55.960 Women are victims.

00:49:56.960 Of course.

00:49:57.960 Of course.

00:49:58.960 How do we see what people really want to do?

00:50:03.960 You give them the freedom to do anything.

00:50:06.960 Unfortunately, when you give us ultimate freedom, we're just bad people.

00:50:10.960 I don't know what it is.

00:50:12.960 Um, and now they're still not happy even when they get the celebrity.

00:50:17.960 I know.

00:50:18.960 I mean, we're never happy, but I think it's just our inherent nature.

00:50:21.960 Like, you know, it's like the rich man who gets rich and cheats.

00:50:27.960 Well, he always wanted to cheat.

00:50:30.960 It's just a lot easier for him now.

00:50:32.960 Was he a victim who was brainwashed?

00:50:34.960 Like, do you hear how you sound?

00:50:35.960 Oh, the rich men that cheat or the clouded men that cheat are just brainwashed victims.

00:50:42.960 Yeah, okay.

00:50:46.960 Um, all right.

00:50:48.960 She and co-founder Natalie Smith bootstrapped their business to launch their first event in April 2023.

00:50:56.960 The idea is simple.

00:50:57.960 Get 200 single guys and 200 single girls.

00:51:00.960 Okay.

00:51:01.960 So translation, um, 50 men will screw the 200 girls.

00:51:07.960 Yeah.

00:51:08.960 Um, the mass dating markets are gamified.

00:51:11.960 People are tired of this way of dating and looking for alternatives to meet people.

00:51:15.960 It's simple.

00:51:16.960 We run the best parties where everyone happens to be single.

00:51:18.960 She says the events which run, I feel like men just aren't going to want to go to this.

00:51:22.960 I mean, they're saying it sells out, but I just can't imagine.

00:51:25.960 The men, I guess I'll find out.

00:51:28.960 Dating events are also on the up with event pride reporting single event attendance jumping 42% between 2022 and 2023 and 49% this year.

00:51:38.960 Uh, fellow founder founder Bridget Gail launched a dating app.

00:51:42.960 Hello, darling.

00:51:43.960 With co-founder Brendan Lee in January.

00:51:46.960 Their idea is that you know you better than yourself and you're, and they're likely not as burnt out by the apps as you are.

00:51:53.960 So why not swipe on their behalf?

00:51:56.960 Gail's currently swiping on behalf of her co-founder.

00:51:58.960 She'll be served up to 15 profiles a day.

00:52:01.960 Uh, and if she encounters someone she thinks would be a good fit.

00:52:04.960 And the same thing happens on the other side of the equation and match is made.

00:52:08.960 The app will send the two off on a blind date with the potential lovebirds selecting whether they want to drink coffee or meal of where to go.

00:52:20.960 Lee and Gail don't charge users, but in the future they plan to make money by taking a percentage of the total bill from partner ventures in a similar way to how Uber Eats is monetized.

00:52:31.960 We don't think we should be charging our users to be able to possibly meet the love of our life to go on a date with someone.

00:52:38.960 Our aim is to get two people in the room and we don't want to stop that.

00:52:41.960 I would do anything for love.

00:52:43.960 Um, but I wouldn't do that.

00:52:44.960 It speaks to the question.

00:52:45.960 How much would you pay for love or perhaps better question?

00:52:48.960 What would it cost you to pay to find love?

00:52:50.960 Well, Morgan Stanley says 32% of singles in the U S use a dating app and a quarter of them pay.

00:52:56.960 Match has observed its eighth consecutive quarterly decline in the number of paying users.

00:53:02.960 And while paying, paying users are down revenue per payer is up 1839 this time last year to 1926.

00:53:11.960 A Tinder subscription in 2020 costs as little as seven bucks a month today.

00:53:15.960 Premium platinum subscription.

00:53:17.960 It'll set you back 50 bucks hinges.

00:53:20.960 Basic product is free to use, but if you want to see everyone who likes you at once,

00:53:25.960 and set more preferences such as height or vice once a week upgrades to hinge.

00:53:30.960 Plus it'll set you back 24 99.

00:53:33.960 And if you want to see, and if you want to see and have the opportunity to match with those who are most your type dub standouts,

00:53:41.960 you'll need to upgrade to hinge acts for 40 bucks a week.

00:53:44.960 Um, the feature is particular as a particular sore spot amongst users.

00:53:52.960 When I ask my single friends, what, see, this is the problem.

00:53:55.960 Cause the women, the app sucks if you give women ultimate choice.

00:53:59.960 So then you say to the women, we're going to dial back your choice because you got to give some of these guys a shot that are in your league.

00:54:06.960 And then the women start completely like, how can we do that?

00:54:09.960 Let's up the price and let's limit how many people you can see.

00:54:12.960 And then the women are like, no, hot guys only.

00:54:16.960 Um, all right.

00:54:18.960 Stop gatekeeping the hottie.

00:54:20.960 Yeah.

00:54:21.960 You see, I said it before I even read it.

00:54:24.960 Stop gatekeeping the hotties is one, one memorable, all caps demand.

00:54:29.960 This friend is talking about the way hinge uses its algorithm to pinpoint users exact type before sticking them behind a paywall online.

00:54:38.960 Their paywall is dubbed the Rose jail.

00:54:40.960 The only way to match with the blessed few behind the bars is to send them a rose,

00:54:45.960 a token of affection that can only be gated by limb, limited number of times.

00:54:50.960 Hinge says roses are twice as likely to lead to a date than a regular light.

00:54:54.960 But unfortunately for many sending one feels like the mobile phone equivalent of please love me.

00:55:01.960 Elizabeth says it feels like she's on the bachelorette.

00:55:04.960 It's super cringe worthy.

00:55:07.960 As one zillennial single, I know says it's giving desperate.

00:55:11.960 The fact that if you even can overcome the hit, the hit to your finances and your ego of sending a rose,

00:55:17.960 just because you're paying to have to have better matches doesn't mean they'll like the look of you in return.

00:55:25.960 So women are seeing how the men like the women are having to pay and they don't like it.

00:55:30.960 The men are like, we've always paid.

00:55:32.960 Do you know how many times I've paid and not gotten laid?

00:55:35.960 They're like, we got no sympathy.

00:55:36.960 We do not care.

00:55:37.960 No subscription tier, no matter how expensive can guarantee love.

00:55:42.960 Yet the idea that the apps are purposefully hiding the ones you're most interested in,

00:55:47.960 whether true or not, is conducive to a positive experience, says Lisa Portolan.

00:55:53.960 Since the paid components of the dating apps have become far more prevalent,

00:55:57.960 there have been a lot more questions about whether the dating apps are just keeping them there for longer,

00:56:02.960 paying the fees as opposed to meeting people, she says.

00:56:05.960 Portolan is a researcher whose PhD on dating apps and intimacy was published this year.

00:56:14.960 Her topic, the 10 ways to find love and how to keep it.

00:56:18.960 In her research, she found that for many, being on the apps conflicts with their idea of what love should be.

00:56:23.960 They think they're supposed to meet on a bus or in a bookshop or their eyes will lock

00:56:27.960 and they'll feel the dating app itself flies in the face of the love story.

00:56:31.960 Who thinks that men are women?

00:56:33.960 Who's realistic?

00:56:34.960 Men.

00:56:35.960 Who's unrealistic?

00:56:36.960 Women.

00:56:37.960 Men are like, yep, it's time to download the apps, DMs on Instagram and go to the bars.

00:56:43.960 They're like, I'm not above it.

00:56:45.960 If I get laid, I get laid.

00:56:46.960 It's the women that want this like fairytale love story.

00:56:52.960 The men are like, I got rejected.

00:56:54.960 Do you have a sister?

00:56:55.960 Do you have a friend?

00:56:57.960 Do you have a mother?

00:56:58.960 I don't care.

00:57:00.960 Okay.

00:57:01.960 There's a real tension for people using the dating app.

00:57:03.960 They think I've got to be here, but I don't actually believe it's going to deliver on the romantic proposition that I'm after.

00:57:10.960 After that, they're paying to meet someone.

00:57:12.960 They can feel like a bridge too far.

00:57:14.960 The subscription based model has a lot of people on the back foot.

00:57:17.960 It's a big thing that a lot of people are talking about.

00:57:20.960 Why should I have to pay for them?

00:57:22.960 Portland says the subscription model is not working for them.

00:57:25.960 And from a brand perspective, it doesn't really help them foster authenticity.

00:57:30.960 People don't think that they're any more to help them find a match.

00:57:34.960 They obviously have still have to be financially viable in some way, shape or form.

00:57:38.960 But this pathway is not really giving them the social license to operate.

00:57:43.960 So I think they will evolve to a different sort of funding.

00:57:47.960 You and I robot.

00:57:48.960 Cedar estimates that he went on a hundred dates in five or six years.

00:57:52.960 Then one day he went to a pub with a woman he met on Hedge, followed with a walk along the beach.

00:57:58.960 And now they'll be married by Christmas.

00:58:00.960 There's definitely hope out there until the divorce.

00:58:03.960 Hope for now.

00:58:06.960 And a whole beauty to be found on this app.

00:58:10.960 But much of Cedar's work with young men is helping them change the internal narratives they've built.

00:58:16.960 And they've tried to find love he has, but have been emotionally wrecked along the way.

00:58:22.960 It's important to realize the notion of communication, love, romance and intimacy is so hardwired and continuously described as the number one metric of success in a young man's life.

00:58:31.960 The pressure is real for these guys.

00:58:33.960 The perception of failure is what leads young guys to influencers who tell them they're victims of women.

00:58:42.960 Yeah, guys that say put up or shut up, bitch.

00:58:47.960 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:58:49.960 Women are so mad that the men are like, yep, you're not a virgin.

00:58:53.960 Put out, bitch.

00:58:55.960 Put out or I walk.

00:58:58.960 Victims of women withholding sex, dates and love, sometimes with violent results.

00:59:05.960 What I try to do is myth bust, but also try to have a conversation with men about what type of vulnerability, openness and connection is required to be a successful partner.

00:59:15.960 And try to undermine those narratives that you have to be an alpha.

00:59:18.960 Regardless of gender, spending too much time on the apps without any success is rarely going to feel good.

00:59:23.960 Seedler adds.

00:59:24.960 The internal narrative that's driving a lot of burnout among people is I am not enough and I have failed.

00:59:30.960 Hinge's McLloyd says he's hearing singles complaints.

00:59:33.960 Hinge has introduced your turn limits, a feature that encourages users to respond to each other's messages before messaging many new people.

00:59:41.960 It's also intriguing AI to both match and coach users.

00:59:45.960 What we find is that some of our users struggles to even get a first date and they need help with either choosing the right photos or writing the right prompt all the way down to approach the first date.

00:59:58.960 Does that mean these flirty messages that guys or girls send you on Hinge has actually been written by a robot?

01:00:05.960 Not quite, says McLloyd.

01:00:06.960 We want to make sure that we are not putting words into your mouth.

01:00:09.960 He gives examples of someone whose hinged bio says they love brunch.

01:00:13.960 We're able to say, hey, you know, that's probably not going to represent your personality very well.

01:00:18.960 People don't know how to respond to that.

01:00:20.960 Where do you like to have brunch and what do you like to talk about?

01:00:24.960 See, again, that's for men, right?

01:00:27.960 Because women read bios.

01:00:29.960 Men look for boobs.

01:00:30.960 You know what I mean?

01:00:31.960 They're like, they're on a dating app.

01:00:32.960 They're like, is she hot?

01:00:34.960 Is she my type?

01:00:36.960 Is she hot?

01:00:37.960 And does she have any glaring red flags?

01:00:39.960 And if they're looking for something short term, they're like, the more red flags, the better.

01:00:44.960 Sleeve tattoo right this way, lady.

01:00:48.960 But he also says they're using AI to refine the matching algorithm.

01:00:53.960 We're able to be more nuanced and focus more on quality over quantity when it comes to matching, he says.

01:00:59.960 Questioned about Rose Jail, he says that Hinge has almost been religious about only adding features if they lead to more dates.

01:01:06.960 The fact is, standouts and roses do work.

01:01:09.960 They also make Hinge money across match groups for operating segments, Tinder, MG Asia, E&E, and Hinge.

01:01:16.960 Hinge reports the highest revenue per user at $30.62.

01:01:20.960 I actually went to a wedding recently of someone who sent a rose to a standout.

01:01:24.960 They were like, it's the best $2.99 I've ever spent.

01:01:27.960 And there's a lot of nuance on Hinge because we do deliver every like and we don't want to overwhelm users who are getting more attention.

01:01:33.960 But we don't want to restrict you from being able to shoot your shot with somebody.

01:01:37.960 We do deliver every like, which is why we have to be so thoughtful about who we serve to whom.

01:01:44.960 It's not about other dating apps where there's the double opt-in, where if you like someone you maybe got 500 slots in their stack card.

01:01:53.960 For those in the Thors of burnout, McLeod says the best way to become excited about romance again is to just remember that it really only takes one.

01:02:01.960 Sometimes the person who's sitting right in front of you can be the person you're missing out on.

01:02:06.960 So many times I've spoken to friends and they say I'm not finding anyone on Hinge and then they show me their account and there are seven people who are sitting there waiting for a response.

01:02:14.960 You do your best on Hinge when you really are thoughtful and intentional.

01:02:19.960 Pearl, cause I can. Thank you.

01:02:22.960 Also, whether she's found it hard to be burnt out on dating apps, Elizabeth laughs.

01:02:29.960 Elizabeth laughs.

01:02:30.960 OK, so now she's going to cope, right?

01:02:32.960 She's saying I'm not burnt out.

01:02:34.960 This doesn't hurt my feelings.

01:02:37.960 Let me see if anyone wanted Pearl Reed.

01:02:42.960 I think that once a person pays on the dating apps and the bots take over and try to get you to continue to pay.

01:02:47.960 What do you think?

01:02:48.960 I don't know.

01:02:49.960 I wasn't on them long enough.

01:02:51.960 I'm surrounded by amazing friends, amazing family.

01:02:55.960 My dad has really a funny saying.

01:02:57.960 Emma, a woman who needs a man is like a fish that needs a bicycle.

01:03:01.960 They're unnecessary.

01:03:02.960 See, that's the simp dad.

01:03:04.960 So like a lot of times the simp dads, again, they inflate the woman's ego.

01:03:09.960 Right.

01:03:10.960 Here's the thing.

01:03:11.960 I'm going to do a show on this as a dad.

01:03:13.960 This is kind of uncomfortable.

01:03:15.960 Right.

01:03:16.960 But your daughter is going to get banged out by somebody like somebody is going to do it.

01:03:19.960 Right.

01:03:20.960 At that age, you could push that off to maybe 20.

01:03:24.960 Uh, when I was in school, the last girls were maybe 20.

01:03:28.960 Okay.

01:03:29.960 The first girls were like 14.

01:03:30.960 That's the timeframe.

01:03:31.960 So, you know, at some point we got to think it's better if you kind of have a hand in it.

01:03:38.960 Right.

01:03:39.960 Or at least you put her in an environment where the guys are like better.

01:03:42.960 Like the worst place to send your daughter is to be a waitress because she's going to be banging the cooks.

01:03:48.960 Right.

01:03:49.960 Like, and those guys have criminal records.

01:03:52.960 Like, that's a bad, but like, do you know what I would do if I had a daughter?

01:03:57.960 I think I'd go to some high income, like really stable sport.

01:04:02.960 I'd make her play.

01:04:03.960 I was thinking tennis.

01:04:04.960 Now, I don't know.

01:04:05.960 I don't have a daughter.

01:04:06.960 This is stuff you guys have to think about.

01:04:07.960 Not me.

01:04:08.960 You know, I would maybe think tennis, maybe like the thing is cheerleaders, but it depends on the sport.

01:04:17.960 Cause there's some pretty weird, like you don't want to get her to go for the ghetto guys on the football or basketball.

01:04:26.960 You know what I mean?

01:04:27.960 So there is a higher risk there, even though some can do pretty well in life.

01:04:33.960 I'm trying to think maybe have her play violin or something.

01:04:40.960 I feel like the musical get like, I feel like, you know, there's not really D you know, demon time, violin, male players.

01:04:49.960 I don't know.

01:04:50.960 You guys would have to tell me where you'd send your, this will be a different show.

01:04:54.960 But, and I'm just a woman with opinions, right?

01:04:57.960 You could take this or leave it, but I'm just thinking from a strategy point of view.

01:05:01.960 I mean, some, but like somebody's going to do, it's kind of uncomfortable.

01:05:06.960 Right.

01:05:07.960 But somebody is going to do it.

01:05:08.960 So it might, you might as well have some sort of like, Hey, these are like the boys in the area.

01:05:14.960 You know, these are like the boys, like, yeah.

01:05:19.960 And depending on the age difference, maybe there's like guys you work with.

01:05:25.960 Like that are good, but you know, the problem is we keep sending them to like colleges.

01:05:32.960 And then have you seen those girls that go viral on Twitter?

01:05:35.960 Right.

01:05:36.960 I'm not saying this is going to be your daughters.

01:05:38.960 Right.

01:05:39.960 But on Twitter, there's women going viral for like, just doing crazy stuff.

01:05:44.960 These are non-famous women.

01:05:45.960 We covered one on the show, Mary Kate Cornette.

01:05:48.960 I mean, I guess she banged her boyfriend's dad.

01:05:51.960 I mean that, that you couldn't have really stopped.

01:05:53.960 Right.

01:05:54.960 But like one of them, I mean, the dad sent his daughter to the university of Arizona.

01:05:58.960 What, what did you think was going to happen?

01:06:00.960 And so now the dad's actually going viral on Twitter.

01:06:03.960 This has got to be a worse nightmare as a father.

01:06:06.960 Cause this girl got tag teamed on camera and it was just like a private sex tape, but it got leaked on Twitter.

01:06:13.960 And now she's trending on Twitter.

01:06:15.960 And so is the father.

01:06:16.960 But now to be fair, I have a relative that started selling nudes from a young age.

01:06:23.960 Okay.

01:06:24.960 Extended relative.

01:06:25.960 And I even asked her, I'm like, do you think anything could have stopped you?

01:06:29.960 And she said, hell no.

01:06:30.960 The more they stopped me, the more I wanted to do it.

01:06:32.960 And I'm like, yeah.

01:06:33.960 So you can't like, there's nothing you can really do.

01:06:36.960 But if me from a strategy point of view, what I would, what I would think to do now, I could be wrong, right?

01:06:43.960 You guys are men.

01:06:44.960 I'm sure you can think of better plans than me, but I would, I'd maybe I'd make a, I'd have her go work.

01:06:51.960 I'd be like, Hey, you know, that golf course is hiring because you know, even if she gets banged out by the golf course chat, at least that's a higher caliber, a guy.

01:07:01.960 And she knows like the caliber of men to like go for.

01:07:04.960 Right.

01:07:05.960 I know.

01:07:06.960 It's like, it's way easier to just believe the sweet, innocent angel, you know, but it's, that's the strategy.

01:07:12.960 Track traditional Catholic college.

01:07:17.960 Well, yeah, but then now you got Catholic school girls.

01:07:20.960 Like if it was me, I just try to like put the, put her in an environment where the least, like the least demons are, or if they are demons.

01:07:31.960 Right.

01:07:32.960 Like I would just, I would think you'd rather have your daughter taken out with like a guy on a golf course than taken out with like the guy on the, on the basketball team.

01:07:45.960 I don't know.

01:07:46.960 There's like, at least one is like a career gotten out, you know, you guys tell me in the chat.

01:07:52.960 Okay.

01:07:53.960 I don't, you got, I just, the dad's like, I think there's a reason there's like a pastor's daughter because the dads that do that and try to stop it and just live in complete delusion.

01:08:03.960 I mean, women love doing the wrong thing, right?

01:08:06.960 Like we love it.

01:08:07.960 Like we love the wrong thing.

01:08:09.960 So that's why you got kid like Catholic school girls trend.

01:08:12.960 That's why you got the, because it's like the more you say, this is the wrong thing.

01:08:16.960 The more women are like, let me do it.

01:08:18.960 Right.

01:08:19.960 So I don't know, you know, so the, all right, anyway, I keep getting off topic on this show.

01:08:25.960 Okay.

01:08:26.960 There was an expectation that when you get in your late thirties and forties, you'll do the baby thing, the house thing and the marriage thing.

01:08:31.960 And I just think, gosh, can we not?

01:08:33.960 Is happiness not an okay enough thing to achieve all, all of which to say on apps or not, Elizabeth is not on the hunt and happily.

01:08:42.960 So she's like, I'm not trying.

01:08:45.960 And then like, they're like, well, it's not working out for you.

01:08:47.960 And she's like, well, I'm happy.

01:08:48.960 And it's like, well, then why did you write this whole article?

01:08:51.960 Right?

01:08:52.960 Why did you write?

01:08:53.960 Why did you write?

01:08:55.960 I don't think it's true.

01:08:56.960 It'll happen when you least expect it.

01:08:59.960 Doesn't matter.

01:09:03.960 Being banged out by Chad just lowers her value and chance of being married.

01:09:07.960 You do need to do an arranged marriage.

01:09:09.960 Look, I just don't agree with that because you guys are guys.

01:09:13.960 You are never, women are going to know more about the promiscuity of women than you guys.

01:09:18.960 Because one, women, we love gossip.

01:09:20.960 Women tell each other things they don't tell you guys.

01:09:23.960 So, if I saw a correlation between purity and women getting married, I would tell you.

01:09:29.960 Right?

01:09:30.960 I would.

01:09:31.960 I think that's what you guys want.

01:09:33.960 But that's not like what I see men.

01:09:37.960 Now, women that go too far and get shit on the internet.

01:09:41.960 Okay.

01:09:42.960 They're done.

01:09:43.960 I'm going to do a whole show on the women that I saw win the most.

01:09:47.960 But that's a different day.

01:09:50.960 Okay.

01:09:51.960 Here, we're going to do an Instagram of how people met.

01:09:56.960 Okay.

01:09:57.960 Hold on.

01:09:58.960 Let me make this.

01:09:59.960 Can I make this full screen?

01:10:01.960 I guess not.

01:10:02.960 I'm just going to zoom in.

01:10:04.960 Okay.

01:10:05.960 So, all right.

01:10:07.960 So, now we're going to.

01:10:08.960 Where we'll find it.

01:10:10.960 The rainbow connection.

01:10:13.960 The lovers.

01:10:14.960 The dreamers.

01:10:16.960 Yeah.

01:10:17.960 So, right now we're in 1946.

01:10:19.960 It's 22% friends.

01:10:21.960 So, the 1950s people met through friends.

01:10:24.960 20% family.

01:10:26.960 18% school.

01:10:27.960 So, whenever people say go back to the 1950s.

01:10:30.960 Remember, the first sexual revolution was the roaring 20s.

01:10:33.960 They're not as innocent.

01:10:34.960 Women have an incentive to make you believe that women in the past were more pure.

01:10:39.960 So, they can brag about it.

01:10:40.960 And say, oh, we were never like that.

01:10:42.960 But, come on.

01:10:44.960 You know, there's a guy that does genealogy records.

01:10:47.960 And he was saying, like, a lot of, like, more people were born from the neighbor than people realize.

01:10:54.960 Low body count is not about getting married.

01:10:58.960 It's about the marriage last.

01:10:59.960 Totally.

01:11:00.960 I completely agree with you.

01:11:01.960 But, you have to understand, you have to get in the door for it to last.

01:11:05.960 Like, that's step one.

01:11:07.960 Now, I understand that, like, the less promiscuous women.

01:11:11.960 But, you have to get there first.

01:11:13.960 Right?

01:11:14.960 Pearl is the crazy thing.

01:11:20.960 She did work at a golf station.

01:11:22.960 Do you even know who my cousin is?

01:11:24.960 Who are you?

01:11:26.960 Anyways.

01:11:27.960 My cousin didn't work at a golf course.

01:11:28.960 Who said that every wish would be heard and answered.

01:11:41.960 A wish on the moaning star.

01:11:46.960 Somebody thought of it.

01:11:47.960 Somebody thought of it.

01:11:49.960 And someone believed it.

01:11:52.960 And look what it's done so.

01:11:56.960 Yeah, that's, that's, that's the most honest take I've seen.

01:11:59.960 Purity is for God.

01:12:01.960 It's for God.

01:12:02.960 Like, and I understand there's winners and losers in this game.

01:12:08.960 But I just haven't seen that big of a difference.

01:12:11.960 I mean, the pure women that get married go and get divorced because they felt like they missed out.

01:12:15.960 I haven't really seen much of a difference.

01:12:17.960 I'm just being honest.

01:12:23.960 Online.

01:12:27.960 Yeah, 2015, a third of couples.

01:12:31.960 Online.

01:12:32.960 Online.

01:12:34.960 60%, 13% friends.

01:12:37.960 Would you throw hands with Megyn Kelly or Tommy Lauren?

01:12:41.960 I think I would kick their ass if we did a boxing match.

01:12:44.960 If I was, the question is, how much am I being paid?

01:12:49.960 Would I do it for free?

01:12:50.960 No.

01:12:51.960 Would I do it for money?

01:12:52.960 Yes.

01:12:55.960 Yeah.

01:12:56.960 Okay.

01:12:57.960 So now we got 60% of couples met online.

01:13:01.960 All right.

01:13:02.960 Now here's a woman also saying dating apps are dead.

01:13:08.960 You've deleted the dating apps.

01:13:11.960 I reached a point today where I'm done.

01:13:13.960 I, I'm just officially done.

01:13:15.960 I don't, I don't ever want to swipe again in my life.

01:13:19.960 I don't ever want to have the stupidest conversations in my life.

01:13:25.960 I am good.

01:13:26.960 And I'm just going to focus on meeting people in the wild.

01:13:29.960 Like the good old days, right?

01:13:31.960 Um, I've seen actually so many women on this app, especially talk about how like, they're

01:13:36.960 done with the dating apps and they're going to try just like putting themselves out there

01:13:40.960 and opening themselves up to meeting people in person.

01:13:42.960 And I do feel like we need to get back to that.

01:13:44.960 And a lot of what's on the dating apps is trash.

01:13:46.960 The dating apps is trash.

01:13:47.960 But I also have to take accountability.

01:13:48.960 Cause I don't really like who I am on the dating apps either.

01:13:52.960 Really?

01:13:53.960 At least she's honest.

01:13:54.960 It's like my past relationships or I've like seriously dated somebody.

01:13:57.960 And if you're one of those people and you're watching this, I'm sorry.

01:13:59.960 I might offend you right now, but I wasn't like initially super attracted to them.

01:14:04.960 It was as we got talking and I got to like field her.

01:14:07.960 I'm sure men are like, yes, I can't wait to date you.

01:14:10.960 I'm so excited to date you after.

01:14:12.960 Like, can you imagine if men said this about us, you know, initially I wasn't really attracted

01:14:17.960 to her.

01:14:18.960 I thought she was kind of ugly.

01:14:19.960 I thought she was like medium ugly, but I gave her a chance and she gave me the gluck

01:14:23.960 gluck and you know, good enough.

01:14:25.960 Now they might think it, but the guys aren't dumb enough to say it, right?

01:14:29.960 Women are.

01:14:30.960 Builder energy and gets another personality where that attraction.

01:14:34.960 I'm like, Oh, okay.

01:14:35.960 I like you.

01:14:36.960 And I just like, that is so impossible to do on the dating apps.

01:14:39.960 And I'm just over it.

01:14:41.960 I'm like, here's to meeting people in the wild.

01:14:45.960 Raise your hand.

01:14:46.960 Okay.

01:14:47.960 Next we got podcaster.

01:14:50.960 And also guys, I'm good.

01:14:51.960 I want to ask how your experience on dating apps has been.

01:14:55.960 And I'm also, I want you to call in and tell me your experience.

01:14:59.960 Like if you, if you have been actively dating where you've been meeting people.

01:15:03.960 Now, if you're bowing out, please don't call in to just tell me you're not dating.

01:15:07.960 That's, that's not, I want to talk to people that are actively dating.

01:15:11.960 Okay.

01:15:12.960 And if your answer is, I got no matches, like it's not.

01:15:16.960 I mean, then it has to be, I had no matches.

01:15:21.960 So I did this.

01:15:22.960 Okay.

01:15:23.960 And we're going to do it after this.

01:15:25.960 Yes.

01:15:26.960 There used to be 290 million people globally using dating apps.

01:15:34.960 Now that number is down to 240 million.

01:15:37.960 Cause it's like a thing.

01:15:38.960 People are sick of the dating apps.

01:15:40.960 I get it because I think the part of it that's broken is like women have this like unrealistic

01:15:45.960 expectation of what they want for guys.

01:15:47.960 So they have this like profile in their head of a guy that they want.

01:15:51.960 And they just swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe.

01:15:53.960 And I think on the other hand, I think guys have so many girls.

01:15:56.960 I think they just kind of like, why settle down?

01:15:59.960 What I've seen from my guy friends that relates to this dynamic is like a really weird bifurcation

01:16:06.960 of success that exists on these apps.

01:16:09.960 So like some guys who, who like fit that profile, they're just, they get so much, so much action,

01:16:18.960 so many swipes, so many dates.

01:16:20.960 Uh, and then that creates like a dynamic where they're, you know, dating multiple people and

01:16:25.960 like inherently it's very hard for them to settle down.

01:16:29.960 And who knows when they ever will settle down.

01:16:30.960 Cause like there's like, there's 290 million who like 30 years of apps with height filters

01:16:37.960 and no weight filters.

01:16:39.960 Women would find a way to lie about that too.

01:16:41.960 I mean, you just come on.

01:16:42.960 They're like, there's no point.

01:16:44.960 Fit that profile.

01:16:46.960 They're just, they get so much, so much action, so many swipes, so many dates.

01:16:51.960 Uh, and then that creates like a dynamic where they're, you know, dating,

01:16:54.960 multiple people and like inherently it's very hard for them to settle down.

01:16:59.960 And who knows when they ever will settle down.

01:17:01.960 Cause like, there's just so many options versus guys on the other end of the spectrum

01:17:06.960 that like, don't necessarily, you know, maybe check a lot of those boxes.

01:17:11.960 And you know, it's strikeout city on the apps.

01:17:14.960 There used to be 290 million.

01:17:16.960 Okay.

01:17:20.960 Okay.

01:17:21.960 All right.

01:17:22.960 So now we're going to take Collins.

01:17:24.960 Um,

01:17:25.960 I'm going to do camera.

01:17:30.960 I'm going to do cameras on today, but if you tell me right away, you can, you can say,

01:17:37.960 I want to see you guys, but you can be off screen if you want, but you're going to have

01:17:42.960 to tell me that like right away because otherwise I'm just going to think it's fine.

01:17:46.960 Um, okay.

01:17:48.960 But yeah, we could bring someone up and Doug MPA.

01:17:54.960 Feel free to call in to give your thoughts.

01:17:59.960 Justin, what's going on?

01:18:02.960 Uh, you're muted.

01:18:03.960 You got to unmute yourself.

01:18:05.960 Hey, how's it going?

01:18:06.960 How are you?

01:18:07.960 I'm good.

01:18:08.960 How are you doing?

01:18:09.960 I'm good.

01:18:10.960 How are you doing?

01:18:11.960 I'm good.

01:18:12.960 So do you still use dating apps?

01:18:16.960 Um, yes I do.

01:18:17.960 Um, currently on.

01:18:19.960 Okay.

01:18:20.960 Cupid.

01:18:21.960 Okay.

01:18:22.960 How's I've heard a lot of people say, okay.

01:18:24.960 Cupid has it been working well for you?

01:18:25.960 Um, currently on.

01:18:26.960 Okay.

01:18:27.960 Cupid.

01:18:28.960 Okay.

01:18:29.960 I've heard a lot of people say, okay.

01:18:30.960 Um, is that a wedding ring?

01:18:35.960 Nope.

01:18:36.960 Okay.

01:18:37.960 I was like, I was like, it looks like a wedding ring.

01:18:40.960 Go ahead.

01:18:41.960 Go ahead.

01:18:42.960 No, it's just a ring.

01:18:44.960 Um, so I'm actually technically back on.

01:18:48.960 Okay.

01:18:49.960 Cupid.

01:18:50.960 Okay.

01:18:51.960 Uh, I met my ex-wife on.

01:18:52.960 Okay.

01:18:53.960 Cupid.

01:18:54.960 Okay.

01:18:55.960 And how has the quality been?

01:18:57.960 Have the women been hot?

01:18:58.960 Have you been getting a lot of dates or no?

01:19:02.960 Uh, so that's kind of why I'm on the website.

01:19:07.960 Uh, I could, uh, it's going to sound, however it's going to sound, but, uh, I could honestly

01:19:17.960 go to any bar anytime I want and go find a nice lady with a warm bed for me to share.

01:19:27.960 It's not a problem.

01:19:28.960 That's why I'm on the dating websites.

01:19:30.960 I'm not looking for, to hook up or anything like that.

01:19:32.960 Uh, I just, I'm looking for the whole wife, kids, white picket fence, that whole deal.

01:19:39.960 And you don't find any women that are like marriage material at the bars.

01:19:44.960 I mean, like, cause I know a lot of married women, then they're young.

01:19:47.960 They used to go to the bars, you know?

01:19:49.960 Yeah.

01:19:50.960 Uh, that always ends one way.

01:19:54.960 What's your experience, bud?

01:19:59.960 So I used to, I used to be a bartender and, uh, did that for like 15 years and off and

01:20:08.960 on.

01:20:09.960 Uh, and I actually bartended in Manhattan for a while, three years.

01:20:14.960 Uh, I had a lot of fun.

01:20:19.960 Oh, I think I had my share of fun.

01:20:22.960 I think I had a few other people's shares of fun.

01:20:24.960 Like I said, I know what's waiting for me at the bar.

01:20:27.960 That's not, that's not, that doesn't lead to, you can go to any bar and find somebody

01:20:36.960 to go home with you.

01:20:37.960 That's not a problem.

01:20:38.960 Very attractive women to go home with you.

01:20:40.960 It's not a problem.

01:20:42.960 That's not what I'm looking for.

01:20:44.960 That's not how you find a wife.

01:20:47.960 Are, um, so none of the women at the bar had any sort of like long-term, like you never

01:20:53.960 met a girl at the bar that you could have seen yourself dating ever.

01:20:58.960 No, I mean, I've met a couple that I would like to, what I'm saying about the bar is I've

01:21:05.960 never met a woman at the bar who didn't go home with me.

01:21:08.960 Okay.

01:21:09.960 Okay.

01:21:10.960 Uh, hey, hey, Pearl.

01:21:12.960 It's Doug in PA.

01:21:13.960 I have a question.

01:21:14.960 So the, have you ever seen a woman that constantly goes to the bar that a man can pull out of the

01:21:23.960 bar.

01:21:24.960 Understand what I'm saying?

01:21:25.960 As in like, you, you start dating a girl that goes to the bar and then she stops going to

01:21:30.960 the bar.

01:21:31.960 Cause, cause my experience is bar girls are bar girls, whether they're like in a relationship

01:21:36.960 or not.

01:21:37.960 So once a girl becomes one of those people where you always catch them at a bar, you, you

01:21:43.960 can't pull them out of there.

01:21:44.960 It doesn't matter if they're in a relationship or married or what has a, was that your experience,

01:21:49.960 Justin?

01:21:51.960 Uh, like I said, the, the women I meet at the bars are, it seemed to be, uh, at least interested

01:22:02.960 in me for one thing.

01:22:03.960 Oh, I see.

01:22:05.960 Like, I'll be honest.

01:22:08.960 I lived in New York for three years and I met a different woman every single night, honestly.

01:22:22.960 And I was, I was stupid, but let's, let's call it naive.

01:22:27.960 It would be nice.

01:22:29.960 I didn't realize what was happening for the first year and a half.

01:22:33.960 Every time I met a girl at the bar, I thought, Oh man, this, this, this, this chick really

01:22:37.960 likes me.

01:22:38.960 We're going to, we're going to go out on dates and you know, it's going to, it's going

01:22:41.960 to turn into something.

01:22:43.960 It took me a while to realize that at best, it was like a flame, you know, maybe we'd hook

01:22:52.960 up for like a week, but otherwise it was just, you know, about that night.

01:22:58.960 Uh, and it sounds, I don't know how many guys you would get complaining about that, but

01:23:07.960 that was never what I was looking for.

01:23:10.960 Honestly, I'm, I'm probably super weird and lame.

01:23:14.960 Ever since I was like a little kid, like all I ever wanted was to grow up, find the woman

01:23:22.960 I love, have some kids, get up every day, go to a job.

01:23:27.960 I hopefully don't hate the moment of the woman.

01:23:29.960 I have some kids.

01:23:30.960 It's all I ever wanted since I was old enough to remember wanting anything, honestly.

01:23:34.960 Uh, but instead I, I found the, the hookup life.

01:23:42.960 Have you found on OkCupid that women are more interested in long-term or is it similar?

01:23:55.960 Um, the women I meet, uh, I'd say more, more similar, like they seem willing to sleep with

01:24:10.960 me on the first date every time.

01:24:13.960 Um, even my ex-wife did, to be honest with you.

01:24:19.960 I met her on OkCupid.

01:24:21.960 We were together the first night and every night thereafter.

01:24:25.960 We were married for five years.

01:24:26.960 You know what?

01:24:27.960 You know what?

01:24:28.960 I want to, cause I was telling Pearl that we should do a show, a show about this.

01:24:33.960 I think that the concept of a woman sleeping with a man on the first night, we really need

01:24:38.960 to, to reexamine exactly what that means because you, you want to be the type of guy that the

01:24:45.960 woman sleeps with on the first night.

01:24:47.960 Do you want to be the guy that she makes wait and wait 90 days?

01:24:51.960 I don't, I don't, I don't care how many, like call it.

01:24:56.960 I've, I've literally told women this too.

01:24:58.960 Like, you know, however many dates, like I don't care.

01:25:01.960 You know, I will, I will wait however many dates.

01:25:06.960 It doesn't matter.

01:25:08.960 But, but you're, you're saying you don't care, like, but you'd be open to dating a woman

01:25:13.960 that you slept with on the first date.

01:25:15.960 It's more like they just don't want relationships, right?

01:25:18.960 That's your experience?

01:25:20.960 Like they just want to, they just want to have sex for like a week and then bounce.

01:25:25.960 Seemingly, or at least that's way it, it used to, like, I've, I've had a change of heart.

01:25:32.960 I started going back to church, uh, Christian and, um, not trying to like sleep around just

01:25:41.960 looking for the, like my ex-wife.

01:25:46.960 Like I said, we slept together the first night and I proposed to her a week to the day we met.

01:25:52.960 Wow.

01:25:53.960 Uh, how long were you married?

01:25:56.960 Five years.

01:25:57.960 Oh wow. Okay.

01:25:59.960 Yeah.

01:26:00.960 Yeah.

01:26:01.960 She had a, she had a nine year old stepdaughter and it was, she was the coolest kid.

01:26:06.960 It was the supreme honor of my life getting to be a dad.

01:26:09.960 Um, and husband, I loved every minute of it.

01:26:14.960 Like I, I loved my wife and daughter madly.

01:26:17.960 Like, uh, anytime I would wake up before my ex-wife, I would just look at her and I couldn't

01:26:23.960 wait for her to wake up just so I could hear what she was going to say and interact with

01:26:27.960 her and just be, uh, do you mind if we ask what happened?

01:26:33.960 Uh, she turned out not to be the person she said she was, which was honest and faithful.

01:26:44.960 Got it.

01:26:45.960 Um, have you, have you gone, um, any other routes other than the bar and OkCupid?

01:26:56.960 Yeah.

01:26:57.960 Um, I did, uh, speed dating a couple of times.

01:27:02.960 Okay.

01:27:03.960 How did that go?

01:27:04.960 I live in Maryland.

01:27:05.960 So, uh, first time I didn't match with anybody.

01:27:10.960 There was nobody.

01:27:11.960 Do you live in like DMV, Maryland?

01:27:14.960 Yeah.

01:27:15.960 I live in like the Rockville, Gaithersburg, Maryland area.

01:27:20.960 Yeah.

01:27:21.960 It's brutal, man.

01:27:22.960 It is brutal.

01:27:23.960 Especially, and this is, this is when I really stopped like getting any, not any, but the attention

01:27:31.960 I got on, on, on, on dating websites, like just cracked, like fell off a cliff.

01:27:36.960 Well, once I, once I, you know, my politics.

01:27:40.960 I spent a lot of time in the DMV area and the biggest problem, the DMV is women here are

01:27:47.960 so career focused and then they fill up their time.

01:27:52.960 So the, now still, I think women here make above average, um, salary, but they still make

01:28:01.960 about 70,000, 80,000, maybe instead of 40, 50,000, they make about 70,000, 80,000.

01:28:06.960 So you have all these women who work 80 hours a week.

01:28:10.960 Then they have to, um, meet with their sorority sisters two days a week.

01:28:16.960 And then they have all these things going on and they're lonely.

01:28:20.960 They want a man, but they don't have the time for it.

01:28:23.960 So you, and then they're in a whole bunch of debt too.

01:28:27.960 Every professional woman in the DMV is in a bunch of debt.

01:28:31.960 All of them.

01:28:33.960 I don't, personally to me, that doesn't matter.

01:28:38.960 All right.

01:28:39.960 They're asking a couple of questions about you in the chat.

01:28:41.960 They want to know if you're blue collar.

01:28:44.960 Uh, yes.

01:28:45.960 Blue collar.

01:28:46.960 And they want to know how old you are.

01:28:49.960 Um, I'm 36.

01:28:52.960 Okay.

01:28:53.960 So what were the other avenues?

01:28:58.960 So other than, okay.

01:28:59.960 Cupid the, so the speed dating, you didn't get a match.

01:29:02.960 And then did you.

01:29:03.960 Well, the first time I didn't get a match.

01:29:05.960 Okay.

01:29:06.960 The second time I got a match.

01:29:09.960 And, um, it actually was, it did turn out to be, she was looking for more of like a well, well to do well off person, um, fancy career or whatnot.

01:29:26.960 Mm hmm.

01:29:27.960 But I, I maintain that it was still the original problem.

01:29:31.960 Because.

01:29:32.960 So.

01:29:33.960 We met at a coffee shop, DC did the speed dating thing.

01:29:37.960 We matched, we went on a date.

01:29:39.960 And, um, I asked her, you know, just outside.

01:29:45.960 Okay.

01:29:46.960 You know, why'd you match with me?

01:29:48.960 And, uh, she just, this, this is just her words, her exact words is not, but she's kind of blurted out, uh, cause you're fine as fuck.

01:30:05.960 So what she said.

01:30:08.960 And I was, you know, for the first second, it's like, Oh, that's nice.

01:30:12.960 Then I was like, Oh, that's, that's the problem.

01:30:15.960 That's the way, you know, if that's, if that's the only reason why you matched with me, cause you, again, you think I'm hot, you want to, you know, that's the wrong reasons.

01:30:24.960 And then I think she realized and, you know, it was like, Oh, well, you know, also, you know, I didn't have as good a conversation with anybody else.

01:30:33.960 And you really made me laugh.

01:30:34.960 And, you know, and she, to be fair, she was laughing a lot.

01:30:37.960 We did seem to be having a good conversation.

01:30:39.960 But.

01:30:40.960 Again, I would still argue that goes back to, she just thought I was really attracted.

01:30:46.960 Like your mind will craft the narrative around what it wants.

01:30:51.960 So she already thought, you know, if she was very attracted to me physically, the, the rest is going to fill itself in.

01:30:58.960 Um, you know, she's going to, I'm going to be, if I'm the hotter I am to her, the funnier I'm going to be and all the other stuff, you know, the better the conversation is just, um, I don't know.

01:31:12.960 I think the, the mind fills in the narrative to build around what, you know.

01:31:18.960 Mm hmm.

01:31:19.960 So, so where else have you tried?

01:31:23.960 Are those the main three?

01:31:26.960 Are there any other ones?

01:31:27.960 Uh, well, I guess there's bars, there's the speed dating, there's the dating apps.

01:31:37.960 Uh, I guess that's it.

01:31:42.960 I don't really know where else to go.

01:31:44.960 I started going back to church.

01:31:46.960 Um, I was asking my, like, for all intents and purposes, my brother, um, you know, where do you go to meet like a good woman, like somebody you can marry?

01:32:00.960 Like, I'm not looking for hookups.

01:32:01.960 I just, you know, I want to like, I want love.

01:32:05.960 And he, I thought he was like, just kind of messing with me, but he was like, go back to church.

01:32:12.960 You know, that's not the answer I wanted actually at the time.

01:32:16.960 I was kind of pissed off, but I started thinking about it.

01:32:19.960 And for, for reasons separate than that, uh, I ended up going back to church just because I, I want to be a better Christian and, you know, uh, get back into the fold.

01:32:29.960 Well, I was never in the fold, but you know, uh, get closer to God, be a good Christian, all that stuff.

01:32:35.960 I want to be a better person.

01:32:37.960 So I started going back to church and started thinking, well, maybe, you know, that advice will pan out.

01:32:44.960 Maybe I'll meet some, maybe that'll be a good avenue.

01:32:48.960 It's only been like a month, you know, back to church and I've met some nice people, but, uh, like I said, I'm not going there just for the dating thing, but, you know, maybe that's a perspective.

01:32:58.960 Maybe that's perspective avenue.

01:33:01.960 But you haven't dated anyone at church yet.

01:33:03.960 No, no, I, I, like I said, it's been like a month, like three or four times.

01:33:09.960 Okay.

01:33:10.960 And it's not why I'm going.

01:33:11.960 I don't expect to, I would say this, I don't expect to anything to come of that, that avenue.

01:33:17.960 But, um, you know, maybe, uh, I've heard that, you know, that's where you go to.

01:33:26.960 Maybe meet a nice person.

01:33:30.960 So I've heard that's where the worst women are, but I hope your experience is better.

01:33:38.960 I'm not, I'm not expecting it.

01:33:40.960 I'm not going there for that.

01:33:41.960 Yeah.

01:33:42.960 Okay.

01:33:43.960 Yeah.

01:33:44.960 I mean, well, that's great.

01:33:45.960 Um, well, thanks for, uh, KW says match owns all the apps and uses bait and switch and all of them.

01:33:51.960 The latest trick is hiding matches behind a paywall that are not even in the country.

01:33:56.960 Thanks KW.

01:33:57.960 Well, thanks for sharing Justin.

01:33:59.960 Um, it's really insightful.

01:34:00.960 So I like to hear what's going on in the dating field.

01:34:03.960 Doug, do you have any more questions?

01:34:05.960 I do not.

01:34:06.960 Thanks for calling in Justin.

01:34:07.960 Appreciate it, buddy.

01:34:08.960 Thanks for calling in.

01:34:09.960 Yeah, absolutely.

01:34:10.960 Have a great night.

01:34:11.960 Thanks for having me.

01:34:12.960 Yeah.

01:34:13.960 You too.

01:34:14.960 Let me check the chat.

01:34:16.960 My wife said she tried speeding dating while in her twenties.

01:34:21.960 One guy was wearing his taxi driver uniform.

01:34:23.960 So funny.

01:34:26.960 Nice.

01:34:27.960 Um, can put in the next guy.

01:34:31.960 Okay.

01:34:40.960 What's going on?

01:34:41.960 You've called them before, right?

01:34:42.960 David?

01:34:43.960 Yeah.

01:34:44.960 Pearl.

01:34:45.960 We're on here.

01:34:46.960 Yeah.

01:34:47.960 How are you?

01:34:48.960 Oh, I'm doing good.

01:34:49.960 Um, I want to keep this brief.

01:34:51.960 I'm going to go on a little monologue here real quick.

01:34:53.960 Sure.

01:34:54.960 Um, just before we start, can you tell, can you tell them your age and where you're from?

01:34:58.960 Just to remind them.

01:34:59.960 Okay.

01:35:00.960 I'm 28.

01:35:01.960 I'm from North Texas.

01:35:02.960 Okay.

01:35:03.960 And what field are you in?

01:35:04.960 Uh, I do crypto.

01:35:06.960 Okay.

01:35:07.960 Crypto trading, Bitcoin.

01:35:08.960 Okay, cool.

01:35:09.960 Monologue.

01:35:10.960 Okay.

01:35:11.960 So I don't mean to pick on this guy in particular, like him specifically.

01:35:14.960 But we have a big, big problem with men that are like seeking commitment.

01:35:21.960 Like, that's the big, like he kept saying like, Oh, um, I want my white picket fence.

01:35:26.960 You know, I want the relation.

01:35:27.960 I want the perfect relationship.

01:35:29.960 I want this and that.

01:35:30.960 It's like, dude, like you've got it all wrong, brother.

01:35:36.960 Like whenever you really have options.

01:35:38.960 And like, I've been on the dating apps.

01:35:40.960 I've used all the dating apps.

01:35:41.960 I've been banned on all of them because I would get so many matches and I wouldn't respond

01:35:47.960 to a lot of them.

01:35:48.960 And they get really, really upset.

01:35:50.960 And when girls get upset, you know, there's that saying about a woman scorned and that and

01:35:56.960 whatever.

01:35:57.960 But anyways, I've been banned on all the apps.

01:35:59.960 But this, my point that I'm trying to make is besides the dating apps, like put all that

01:36:03.960 stuff away.

01:36:04.960 Let's talk about what men want.

01:36:06.960 Like men today, they want these like perfect relationships with these good girls.

01:36:12.960 And it's just like, this isn't real.

01:36:15.960 This isn't reality.

01:36:16.960 Like y'all need to wake up.

01:36:18.960 Like we did a study, right?

01:36:20.960 A study showed that 52% of men still say that serious relationships in marriage is a priority

01:36:27.960 and only 24% of women.

01:36:29.960 This is under 30.

01:36:31.960 Yeah.

01:36:32.960 Women don't want relationships.

01:36:33.960 Like you're not finding relationships because women don't want them with you, dude.

01:36:37.960 Like you're not.

01:36:38.960 Not until they're 35 and 40 and they have kids already and they're exactly.

01:36:42.960 And they're broke and need help.

01:36:44.960 But before that, you're right.

01:36:47.960 So it's like, he's, he's looking for something that doesn't even exist.

01:36:51.960 And a lot of guys are like this.

01:36:52.960 I don't mean to just point him out and like pick on him.

01:36:55.960 This is like 90% of guys Pearl.

01:36:58.960 Like it's bad.

01:36:59.960 You know what I mean?

01:37:00.960 And I try to tell guys this and I try to like level with them, but it's like, they think

01:37:04.960 I'm an asshole and they think I'm picking on them.

01:37:06.960 And it's like, bro, like y'all just don't get it, bro.

01:37:10.960 Like, like, I don't mean to toot my own horn, but like I have options.

01:37:13.960 Like I have multiple girls that want to spend time with me.

01:37:18.960 And like, it's like, bro, none of them are like, even, even the girls that are like lower

01:37:22.960 on my scale are like, but they don't even want to date.

01:37:25.960 They don't even want relationships.

01:37:27.960 Like, so it's just, I don't know.

01:37:29.960 Like it stresses me out, but so you don't have any women that are trying to seek commitment

01:37:34.960 with you at all.

01:37:36.960 I mean, I know one's like, I had a girl that was trying to, you know, lock me down, but

01:37:41.960 it's like, I like, I don't even want that, you know, like I'm still young, you know, I'm

01:37:44.960 not having even hit 30 yet.

01:37:46.960 So, I mean, I'm chilling.

01:37:47.960 Like I don't, and I'm definitely not the type of guy to like marry or any of that stuff.

01:37:52.960 David, if you think it's bad now, once you hit 35, man, I'm telling you, like, like

01:38:01.960 you're getting it, you're getting some now, but I'm telling you once, as you get older,

01:38:06.960 like you only get more options as you get older, bro.

01:38:10.960 It's insane.

01:38:11.960 Yeah, man.

01:38:12.960 It's only going to get better for me.

01:38:13.960 That's why I'm not rushing a relationship or like commitment and stuff like that.

01:38:16.960 And like girls that want that with me, like, they're going to have to show and prove.

01:38:19.960 Like, I'm not the type of guy who's like, Oh, the next girl that I get, I'm going to try

01:38:24.960 to marry her.

01:38:25.960 I'm going to try.

01:38:26.960 It's her job to make you, it's her job to make you want to.

01:38:29.960 That's her job.

01:38:30.960 Yes, exactly.

01:38:31.960 And like guys need to get this through their heads.

01:38:33.960 Like, like if, if there's anybody who needs to wake y'all up, it's me.

01:38:38.960 And like, this is your sign.

01:38:39.960 Like I'm here.

01:38:40.960 This is your sign to wake up.

01:38:42.960 These women do not want commitment.

01:38:44.960 Like they just don't want it.

01:38:46.960 Like, stop trying to, you know, have the white picket fence.

01:38:49.960 And do all that stuff, bro.

01:38:50.960 You're just going to be disappointed.

01:38:52.960 And, and, you know, I don't want to pick on the last guy, but he, he married a single

01:38:57.960 mom.

01:38:58.960 And it's.

01:38:59.960 Oh yeah.

01:39:00.960 Pearl.

01:39:01.960 Pearl.

01:39:02.960 You talk about that a lot.

01:39:03.960 Like the guys who they go through their first marriage and then they get divorced

01:39:06.960 and then they all of a sudden just immediately want to get back into a second.

01:39:09.960 I hate when I was, yeah, when I was single, I hated, I, well, I thought I would want to

01:39:14.960 date first divorced guys, but it would be like, they would be so like desperate.

01:39:19.960 Like it was, it was like, they would reek of like desperation, like dying to just like,

01:39:24.960 and it was like, as a woman, you don't want that much pressure.

01:39:27.960 You don't like upfront on the first date, like these guys would be talking about marriage

01:39:32.960 before, like first date.

01:39:34.960 No, it's insane.

01:39:35.960 Like literally like when that caller came on, I'm just like, bro, here we go.

01:39:39.960 Like, I just met you.

01:39:40.960 You know, like, but I would only find that like with once divorced guys, like never married

01:39:46.960 guys.

01:39:47.960 I wouldn't find that with.

01:39:48.960 Well, I would say, cause, cause Pearl is right.

01:39:53.960 You either on, you on opposite sides of the coin, you get divorced and you become a simp.

01:39:59.960 Well, even more of a simp and want a relationship to get married again, or you become a red pill

01:40:03.960 demon because most of the, of the red pill guys that are the most, that are for the cause

01:40:10.960 the most are usually between the age of 35 to like 47 and have been divorced already.

01:40:16.960 So sadly there's no in between.

01:40:19.960 You, you either what Pearl and David are talking about, or you're literally on the other side

01:40:24.960 and you're just a red pill demon.

01:40:26.960 Yeah.

01:40:27.960 There was, there was someone I went on a date with and I ended up turning down.

01:40:31.960 Cause it just kinda, he was, it was too much.

01:40:34.960 He moved in a girl like two weeks later, like, like off of Instagram.

01:40:38.960 Like, and I was, I was like, that's crazy.

01:40:41.960 I don't know.

01:40:42.960 I'm like, that's too fast.

01:40:44.960 It stresses me out.

01:40:45.960 I don't know how y'all do this.

01:40:46.960 Like, pro, I don't know how you do this, yo.

01:40:48.960 It's so stressful.

01:40:49.960 Like when I hear these stories, I'm just like, bro, what is going through y'all's heads?

01:40:54.960 So where are you meeting women?

01:40:57.960 Like, so like, just kind of to go back to the topic a little bit, like where, cause

01:41:02.960 you're 28, I'm guessing you're dating women like five, like probably 18 to 25.

01:41:08.960 Would you say?

01:41:09.960 Yeah.

01:41:10.960 Yeah.

01:41:11.960 Yeah.

01:41:12.960 I'm not, I'm not really dating any girls that are older than like, yeah, I would say 25,

01:41:15.960 even 24, like 25 is kind of pushing it even.

01:41:18.960 Yeah.

01:41:19.960 So where are you meeting them?

01:41:21.960 I mean, most of the time, just bars, uh, since I'm banned off dating apps, uh, I don't

01:41:27.960 really have that option.

01:41:28.960 I do actually, I, I am still on one, but like, I don't like, it's one of the like dating apps

01:41:34.960 that's like not as popular.

01:41:35.960 So I don't really even, I don't even really use it anymore.

01:41:38.960 But when I was on dating apps, man, I was getting, I was getting matches like crazy.

01:41:42.960 Like FsB, these girls who like, didn't meet the requirements.

01:41:46.960 And then I would like, I wouldn't unmatch with them or anything.

01:41:49.960 I would just like, keep the message open.

01:41:51.960 And then, you know, I'm like one day I just randomly get banned.

01:41:54.960 And then they're just like, Oh, email our support, blah, blah, blah.

01:41:58.960 And, and try to, you know, get your account back.

01:42:00.960 And like, I emailed them.

01:42:01.960 Nobody's trying to tell me nothing.

01:42:03.960 So I just assumed, you know, someone's reporting.

01:42:05.960 Why do you, what pictures, what pictures did well for you on the dating apps?

01:42:10.960 Like, why do you?

01:42:11.960 Cause I mean, my guys are probably wondering like what set your profile apart.

01:42:15.960 Yeah.

01:42:16.960 I'll, I'll give you, I'll give you the sauce on that.

01:42:18.960 So, okay guys, this is what y'all need to do.

01:42:22.960 You guys need to, first of all, you need to stop wearing like bright colored clothing.

01:42:27.960 Y'all need to stop wearing these like pastel colors and like all this fruity looking stuff.

01:42:32.960 Y'all need to like wear leather jackets and like jewelry and stuff like that.

01:42:37.960 That'll help you a lot.

01:42:38.960 You also need to like either take a picture next to like a really nice car.

01:42:43.960 Doesn't even have to be your car.

01:42:45.960 Just take a picture next to a nice car.

01:42:47.960 I have a motorcycle.

01:42:48.960 I ride motorcycles.

01:42:49.960 I ride dirt bikes.

01:42:50.960 So that's my thing.

01:42:51.960 And I take pictures with like dirt bikes and stuff like that.

01:42:54.960 But here's the thing.

01:42:55.960 This is, this is the biggest advice I would give to men is like, don't try to copy what

01:42:59.960 another guy does.

01:43:00.960 Like do something that works for you.

01:43:02.960 Like find something cool that like works for you.

01:43:04.960 And then like, you know, really dive deep into who you are as a person.

01:43:08.960 Don't try to like copy someone or like, you know, it's cool to have influences.

01:43:13.960 Don't get me wrong.

01:43:14.960 But like, you can't just like directly copy people, you know, and expect to have results

01:43:18.960 like that.

01:43:19.960 Because girls know when you're inauthentic.

01:43:21.960 Like they know.

01:43:22.960 They can smell that.

01:43:23.960 Like a couple examples that maybe you're outside of your archetype, but like maybe like five

01:43:27.960 examples that you'd recommend that are different in terms of like a picture or something.

01:43:32.960 Yeah.

01:43:33.960 So like another archetype that would be different from mine would be like a fisherman or like

01:43:38.960 a hunter.

01:43:39.960 Okay.

01:43:40.960 You know, like guys who, guys who are like outdoorsy type stuff.

01:43:43.960 Like you want to project this image to women that like, you're not on the internet all day.

01:43:49.960 You're not playing video games all day.

01:43:51.960 You're not like you're outside.

01:43:53.960 You're doing stuff.

01:43:54.960 You're a man of the world.

01:43:55.960 You're a Renaissance man.

01:43:56.960 You, you have your cultured.

01:43:57.960 You know what I mean?

01:43:58.960 Like that's what really like gets them.

01:44:00.960 Like you don't even really have to like, I don't look that good.

01:44:02.960 Like I look okay.

01:44:03.960 I have nice hair, but I'm scrawny.

01:44:05.960 Like I'm super tall.

01:44:06.960 Like I don't fit the perfect archetype for like what these women want, but like I've owned

01:44:11.960 in on my style and like my like mannerisms and like the way I talk to people and stuff.

01:44:17.960 And that helps a lot.

01:44:18.960 Like that will get you so much further than like trying to pretend to be somebody else.

01:44:23.960 Okay.

01:44:24.960 So you want a picture with like a car or motorcycle or maybe they have a truck, whatever.

01:44:29.960 Yeah.

01:44:30.960 If you've got a truck or if like, let's say you have a cool dog or something like stuff

01:44:33.960 like that, you know, anything else you'd recommend?

01:44:36.960 The travel pictures do it too.

01:44:39.960 Woo.

01:44:40.960 Women love.

01:44:41.960 Yeah, we do.

01:44:42.960 I don't know why I'm telling you if you have any pictures of you next to the freaking Eiffel

01:44:47.960 Tower or the Great Wall of China or something like that post those bad boys.

01:44:52.960 They want to know.

01:44:53.960 The only thing is you might attract what we call travel leashes.

01:44:57.960 We're like they travel all the time.

01:44:59.960 But then when if you get into a relationship with them, they want to keep traveling, but

01:45:06.960 then make you pay for it.

01:45:07.960 So that's what you got to watch out with travel pictures.

01:45:10.960 They love travel pictures, guys.

01:45:11.960 They want to know how tall you are.

01:45:14.960 I'm 6'3".

01:45:16.960 That helps.

01:45:17.960 I'm not going to lie.

01:45:18.960 I'm not going to sit here and act like that doesn't help.

01:45:20.960 That helps.

01:45:21.960 But take pictures with other women.

01:45:23.960 Do that.

01:45:24.960 If you have girlfriends.

01:45:25.960 That works too.

01:45:26.960 100%.

01:45:27.960 Can I tell you a story?

01:45:28.960 Oh my gosh.

01:45:29.960 I could not.

01:45:30.960 So my old employees would always want to take pictures with me.

01:45:34.960 And I like could not figure out why like I would get to work and like the recruiters

01:45:38.960 would be like, Pearl, Pearl, take a picture.

01:45:40.960 I know.

01:45:41.960 And then they were so weird.

01:45:42.960 They were like, well, follow me on Instagram.

01:45:44.960 And one of them was so like, and I'm just not like I don't use my Instagram a lot.

01:45:48.960 Like it doesn't even have a big following because it's just been deleted so many times.

01:45:52.960 And this one like took my phone and like followed him on Instagram.

01:45:55.960 And I'm like, what?

01:45:57.960 And I was like, why are they so weird about this?

01:46:00.960 Because they weren't like hitting on me or anything.

01:46:02.960 And I was like, oh, like a year later, a year later, it clicked because my friend Shiv

01:46:09.960 was here and he's like, oh, I need a picture with you for my dating.

01:46:12.960 He's like, yeah, I need a famous person following me and like, let me.

01:46:18.960 That's awesome.

01:46:20.960 Yeah, man.

01:46:21.960 That's the game.

01:46:22.960 Like you really just got to like, it's, it's all about like a perception of value.

01:46:26.960 You don't even really have to be that guy.

01:46:27.960 I was getting used.

01:46:28.960 Thank you.

01:46:29.960 I was getting, most women get used for their bodies.

01:46:31.960 I got used for my clout.

01:46:33.960 And what David's talking about is you gotta, everyone's like, oh, you're putting up a

01:46:42.960 front, you're putting up a front, but you gotta be able to get, get the woman to match

01:46:48.960 your profile to meet in person.

01:46:50.960 You can be yourself.

01:46:51.960 And when you get the opportunity, if when you get to the point where she swipes on you

01:46:57.960 and you match, and then you can meet in person, but a lot of guys can't even get matches.

01:47:01.960 That's the photos, man.

01:47:03.960 They got to get the photos game up.

01:47:05.960 That's really the whole thing.

01:47:06.960 It's the perception of value.

01:47:08.960 Like with, with the internet and social media, that's where things are headed.

01:47:12.960 Like you have to have the perception that you're a high value dude.

01:47:15.960 And then once you get, but that only gets you in the door.

01:47:18.960 That's only half the game really.

01:47:19.960 Like, cause once you actually meet the girl, you have to have internal high value.

01:47:23.960 And that's a completely different skillset.

01:47:26.960 Someone wants to know, they're asking you I'm five, seven.

01:47:29.960 Is that why I barely get any matches?

01:47:32.960 Yeah, that's probably it.

01:47:34.960 You might as well just five, seven, bro.

01:47:36.960 Like, here's the thing.

01:47:37.960 If I was five, seven, what I would do is not only get in like super, super good shape

01:47:42.960 and make a lot of money and like do all the things you're supposed to do.

01:47:46.960 But, you know, I would be like the funny guy.

01:47:49.960 You know what I mean?

01:47:50.960 Like be the guy who's like rowdy and just like, you know, you're bouncing off the walls

01:47:54.960 and maybe you drink a lot.

01:47:55.960 Like that's like, you have to have that personality.

01:47:58.960 That's what you have there.

01:47:59.960 Yeah.

01:48:00.960 Or just lie on the app.

01:48:02.960 Does that work?

01:48:03.960 Yeah.

01:48:04.960 Or just lie.

01:48:05.960 I mean, all is fair in love and war, man.

01:48:07.960 But from Asia, most Asian women are like five, one, five, two.

01:48:11.960 So you'll be tall over there.

01:48:13.960 So.

01:48:14.960 Okay.

01:48:15.960 So you have the.

01:48:16.960 So now is your number one way bars.

01:48:19.960 And is that other friends?

01:48:22.960 It's like I meet people through friends.

01:48:24.960 Do you use social media to meet women?

01:48:28.960 Uh, it's hard to say because like, I'll use Facebook every now and then to like, talk

01:48:35.960 with people that like I know, but like, as far as like my views and stuff on everything

01:48:41.960 else, like I keep my Instagram and everything else private.

01:48:43.960 So nobody I know really sees any of that.

01:48:45.960 Cause like my, like if people knew the type of stuff that I really believe in, you know,

01:48:49.960 the stuff I'm saying on the internet, they would like, it's, it's just one of those things

01:48:54.960 like I live in a really liberal town.

01:48:55.960 Let's just put it that way.

01:48:56.960 Okay.

01:48:57.960 So if you had for men that want to date women between the ages of 18 to 25, what I guess

01:49:04.960 advice do you have for them or what do you think they should know?

01:49:07.960 Man, internal high value because the external stuff is one thing that only will get you

01:49:13.960 in the door, but the internal is so much more important.

01:49:16.960 Like if a girl, okay, let's look, let me give you an example.

01:49:20.960 So like, let's say you're dating a girl.

01:49:22.960 Let's say you found a match on a dating app and you go on the first date with her.

01:49:25.960 Okay.

01:49:26.960 You sit down, you do everything right.

01:49:29.960 You know what I mean?

01:49:30.960 You, you talk with her.

01:49:32.960 First of all, you don't want to talk about anything's too serious, you know, especially

01:49:35.960 on the first few dates.

01:49:36.960 First few dates.

01:49:37.960 And then let's say you do everything right.

01:49:40.960 Like at the end of the day, you have to ask yourself, like, what do I really want?

01:49:44.960 You know?

01:49:45.960 And the problem that I see with a lot of guys is like, they just, they want, they seeking

01:49:50.960 commitment too hard.

01:49:51.960 You know what I mean?

01:49:52.960 Like, and it's like, you're, you're asking these women to do things that they don't want

01:49:57.960 to do.

01:49:58.960 And it's like, that's, that's not going to help.

01:49:59.960 You know, like you just have to be you and let, like, let them come to you, you know,

01:50:04.960 like internal, like the internal high value will get the women chasing you.

01:50:07.960 The external stuff is like, you know, that'll get your foot in the door with a lot of chicks.

01:50:11.960 But like, if you don't have the internal like capacity to back it all up, then it's really

01:50:16.960 nothing.

01:50:17.960 Like if anything, they'll look at you and be like, Oh, look at this guy.

01:50:19.960 So pathetic.

01:50:20.960 Like, you know, he's got all this money and all this stuff, but look at him.

01:50:22.960 He's, he's texting me three times in a row, you know, like five minutes after we just

01:50:27.960 ended the day, like end the day.

01:50:30.960 Okay.

01:50:31.960 Give it some time, you know, give her a few days where you don't text her or call her, talk

01:50:35.960 to her.

01:50:36.960 You got to give her some space.

01:50:37.960 Like women only will become attracted to you.

01:50:40.960 Like when there's distance, like you can't just like be up under her all the time and

01:50:44.960 expect her to like respond to you.

01:50:46.960 Cause that's just not how it works.

01:50:47.960 That would be my biggest like overarching point is the internal high value aspect.

01:50:51.960 I meant more outside of that.

01:50:53.960 Like what apps are they on?

01:50:55.960 Would you say the best way to meet them is bars?

01:50:57.960 Are they on the dating apps or, um, like, I know, don't you guys all communicate through

01:51:02.960 Snapchat?

01:51:03.960 Like all the.

01:51:04.960 Yeah.

01:51:05.960 Social media is just such a, like, it's such like a, uh, like synthetic way to meet people.

01:51:11.960 In my opinion.

01:51:12.960 Like I really thrive when I'm in real life.

01:51:15.960 Like I just thrive in like real life situations so much more than the internet.

01:51:20.960 So, you know, take that for what you will.

01:51:23.960 Okay.

01:51:24.960 Um, Doug, do you have any other questions?

01:51:27.960 Doug MPA.

01:51:28.960 I do not.

01:51:30.960 Keep doing what you're doing, buddy.

01:51:32.960 And it only gets better.

01:51:34.960 Once you hit 35, man, like take what you're, what you're getting right now and triple it.

01:51:40.960 Oh yeah, man.

01:51:41.960 Yeah.

01:51:42.960 I appreciate what you guys do.

01:51:43.960 Like I'm loving the content.

01:51:44.960 Like I'm always tuned in.

01:51:45.960 Like, I love what y'all, what y'all are doing.

01:51:47.960 Like, nobody's really doing stuff like this, except for, you know, a few, you know, a few

01:51:52.960 people.

01:51:53.960 But I mean, pro I love it when you kick the hornet's nest, like you make these people

01:51:57.960 so upset.

01:51:58.960 It just, Oh, I love that.

01:51:59.960 Like that, that like rebellious energy is like, it's, I'm so attracted to it.

01:52:04.960 Well, thanks for calling in.

01:52:06.960 Um, if you ever, if you ever do want to make a YouTube channel about this stuff, reach out.

01:52:11.960 Cause we, I'll, I'll say that to the chat too.

01:52:14.960 We do offer that as a service.

01:52:15.960 We help people offer YouTube channels.

01:52:17.960 So I think you'd be good at it actually.

01:52:19.960 You know, Hey, next time you come to Dallas, holler at me.

01:52:22.960 Like let's, let's link up or something.

01:52:24.960 Let's, uh, let's cause I'm, I'm out here in Dallas, so I know you'd be out here.

01:52:27.960 Okay.

01:52:28.960 Okay.

01:52:29.960 Well, thanks for calling in.

01:52:31.960 Yep.

01:52:32.960 I'll see y'all later.

01:52:33.960 Bye.

01:52:34.960 Have a good one.

01:52:35.960 Um, the next one, we have Aisha.

01:52:48.960 Aisha.

01:52:49.960 Hello.

01:52:50.960 Hello.

01:52:51.960 Can you hear me?

01:52:52.960 I can hear you.

01:52:53.960 You're good.

01:52:54.960 Yeah.

01:52:55.960 Is it okay if I remain, um, off camera?

01:52:57.960 I just want.

01:52:58.960 Yeah.

01:52:59.960 That's okay.

01:53:00.960 Yeah.

01:53:01.960 That's all right.

01:53:02.960 Um, so are you on the dating apps?

01:53:03.960 Yes.

01:53:04.960 Yes, I am.

01:53:05.960 I'm on, um, I'm on just one here, but I have, you know, great success.

01:53:09.960 I've been on it about, I would say about six months here.

01:53:13.960 Cool.

01:53:14.960 What dating app are you on?

01:53:16.960 I'm on Hinge.

01:53:17.960 I'm on Hinge.

01:53:19.960 And it's been going well.

01:53:21.960 The women have been good looking.

01:53:23.960 You've been getting a lot of matches.

01:53:24.960 Yes.

01:53:25.960 Definitely.

01:53:26.960 I, I've kind of dived into every one of them.

01:53:29.960 And what I find is people on Hinge seem to be, you know, a little bit more higher quality.

01:53:34.960 Um, you know, perhaps it's just how the user faces interacted is very Apple-esque and just,

01:53:41.960 you know, like Tinder is kind of a video game, but Hinge, and just kind of gives that, um,

01:53:45.960 Apple-esque feeling to everything.

01:53:47.960 And, um, around, uh, around the Orlando area.

01:53:51.960 Okay.

01:53:52.960 And have you found that the, are you looking for commitment right now or are you not?

01:53:56.960 I am looking for commitment.

01:53:57.960 I would like to get married.

01:53:59.960 Um, I know you're against it here, but you know, I, I still believe in taking the shot

01:54:06.960 here.

01:54:07.960 I'm not here to tell you what to do.

01:54:09.960 You, I'm not against, I'm not against her for it for you, you know?

01:54:13.960 Right.

01:54:14.960 Right.

01:54:15.960 Yeah.

01:54:16.960 I am looking for commitment, but I think that's the wrong mindset to have, uh, cause

01:54:20.960 if you go on and seeking for a commitment, um, you kind of come at it the wrong end.

01:54:25.960 You come out very desperate.

01:54:26.960 So I, I always try to see it, uh, you know, always try to see if I can disqualify.

01:54:31.960 I'm trying to find every reason if I can disqualify.

01:54:33.960 Right.

01:54:34.960 Any red flags, anything.

01:54:36.960 Cause cause given getting commitment, that's what, you know, that's what women traditionally

01:54:41.960 give.

01:54:42.960 Um, and that's not something you should give out lightly, uh, just to anybody.

01:54:45.960 But I will say something though.

01:54:47.960 Um, you know, it seems to be a common trend here that I'm seeing with, you know, these,

01:54:53.960 these women on the apps there, you know, typically somebody, uh, a normal woman gets approached

01:55:00.960 here and there and in the normal world, uh, quite a bit, but on the typical girls that

01:55:05.960 meet in the apps, they seem to have, you know, sometimes mental issues or, you know, anxiety

01:55:11.960 issues or some traumatic past.

01:55:13.960 That's what, that's what I've noticed.

01:55:14.960 I've noticed the difference between meeting people organically versus the apps.

01:55:18.960 And where have you met people organically?

01:55:21.960 Uh, so I met them, you know, at the gym here and there, or, you know, um, at, at work or

01:55:29.960 common areas, you know, I, I try to be very active around the city.

01:55:33.960 So, and, and definitely having a mutual friend and, you know, having friends to introduce you

01:55:37.960 to other friends that you think could be a match that just, you know, a warm transfer

01:55:42.960 definitely helps out there and having somebody vouch for you that goes a long way.

01:55:46.960 What kind of common areas are you talking about?

01:55:50.960 Common areas, uh, for example, you know, uh, 70 to 80% of people at running events,

01:55:59.960 five K's, 10 K's and half marathons or women, you will get more action showing up to five

01:56:06.960 K's on a Saturday morning than you will Friday night at the club.

01:56:11.960 I know I've run 52 half marathons in my life.

01:56:15.960 And I don't know how many five K's and 10 K's, especially if you travel for runs, guys,

01:56:21.960 I'm telling you, you want to meet quality women, get some running shoes.

01:56:27.960 Cause 70 to 80% of people at five K's, 10 K's and half marathons are women.

01:56:33.960 And they're all, most of them are in shape cause they run.

01:56:36.960 Have you had the same experience?

01:56:39.960 Yes, absolutely.

01:56:40.960 Um, I had a, um, great experience cause those kinds of things typically tend to be a social issue there.

01:56:46.960 You know, people really come in there cause they don't really have much to do on that day

01:56:49.960 and they want to meet new people.

01:56:50.960 You know, running is just activity that happens being that day, but it tends to be mostly all women.

01:56:55.960 And, uh, and, and I definitely had a good experience there.

01:56:58.960 You know, another thing that I'm looking to try is some sort of salsa dancing, um, class or, or club.

01:57:06.960 Um, that's very popular here.

01:57:08.960 And I have a friend that does, and he has very, very good success meeting women, women there.

01:57:12.960 Um, so that's something that I'm looking forward to trying.

01:57:15.960 And out of the three places you mentioned, you said Brazilian Jiu Jitsu run club, um, through friends and dating apps.

01:57:25.960 What would you say is the highest quality women like the youngest, best looking and least mental issues?

01:57:32.960 Definitely the apps have the most mental issues.

01:57:36.960 I would say that.

01:57:37.960 I will say that, you know, you always, you know, you always want to make sure you take a look at their cabinet door and see there's nothing in there that, you know,

01:57:47.960 You see a bunch of bottles with stuff that you can't pronounce.

01:57:50.960 You better.

01:57:51.960 Yeah.

01:57:52.960 And you want to check guys before the growth takes you back to her house and she wants to smash, excuse yourself to the bathroom and check that medicine cabinet before you smash.

01:58:03.960 You don't want to dive into anything full of a psych meds.

01:58:07.960 You got to look for, you got to look for herpes medication to double check.

01:58:14.960 God, God, sorry.

01:58:17.960 Most definitely.

01:58:18.960 That's something I definitely recommend, but, but, um, but as it's to say the, the most high quality, I would say is definitely a friend referral.

01:58:30.960 Cause, um, like I said, that one transfer gives a long way.

01:58:33.960 And, you know, if you have a good friend, he's obviously going to vouch for you.

01:58:36.960 So the, you know, normally the, the defenses on the, on the, on the, on the friend side is going to be substantially less.

01:58:45.960 Okay.

01:58:46.960 And have you ever, have you run into any challenges of dating women and run clubs?

01:58:50.960 Like, is there ever drama or, you know?

01:58:53.960 Yeah.

01:58:54.960 Well, you definitely don't want to be known as, you know, that, that reason you're there for.

01:58:59.960 So you're going to go at it.

01:59:00.960 You got to go definitely tackle, you know, one, one woman at a time, you can't, you know, talk to 10 of them at the same day.

01:59:07.960 You know, it's, it's going to be, you know, you definitely got to, it's all about reputational controls.

01:59:12.960 So one at a time.

01:59:13.960 And, um, my experience is if you're, you know, if you're a, if you're a somewhat attractive man, especially if you're tall, um, you, you show up to run events.

01:59:26.960 You don't even have to approach women.

01:59:28.960 You just have to show up, do a good run and just stay and smile.

01:59:33.960 I'm dead serious.

01:59:35.960 They come up to you.

01:59:36.960 So that's how you avoid being seen as, as that guy, because if you keep showing up single long enough, because most guys who do show up, um, are either, are either in relationships or they're gay.

01:59:51.960 So if they find out that you're neither one of those, you don't have to approach any women at all, but they'll come up to you.

01:59:57.960 Um, I'm going to read super chats really quick.

02:00:00.960 Just, um, sometimes they have questions for the callers.

02:00:03.960 Um, it's ironic in the age where women make more money than they ever have in human history is when they have the highest financial demands for men.

02:00:12.960 And the question is, they want to know your height.

02:00:16.960 My height is five, seven.

02:00:18.960 And you haven't found that to be a problem on the dating apps at all?

02:00:22.960 No, not at all.

02:00:24.960 Um, honestly, uh, I didn't really consider it an issue until, you know, I, I really haven't had much issue with it.

02:00:33.960 I don't come about it.

02:00:34.960 So I feel very confident in myself.

02:00:36.960 Um, you know, obviously I, I'm, I'm Hispanic, so I typically I date Latinas, so they're naturally smaller than, you know, shorter than me.

02:00:45.960 But, um, but no, typically it doesn't seem to be the issue.

02:00:49.960 Really?

02:00:50.960 What's your mile pace at your run clubs?

02:00:54.960 Um, it's, it's nothing crazy.

02:00:57.960 It's nothing crazy.

02:00:58.960 Um, to be honest, eight minute, nine minute, somewhere around there, to be honest.

02:01:04.960 Yeah.

02:01:05.960 Because if you, you can, you can get past your height in a running club.

02:01:09.960 If you run fast.

02:01:11.960 Well, that's a good tip.

02:01:13.960 Yeah.

02:01:14.960 If you get to like the seven minute mark, like, because people will see how hard people that they recognize the hard work.

02:01:22.960 So if you can get, I mean, you're fast right now, but if you get like really fast, you have to worry about your height in a run club.

02:01:32.960 Gotcha.

02:01:33.960 Gotcha.

02:01:34.960 I mean, I don't know if it's never really been an issue for me.

02:01:36.960 I, I think it's really just how you carry yourself and, and then, you know, the confidence you have in yourself.

02:01:41.960 So, so definitely it's really much a mindset to have and you, you know, and women, women, women typically have a, a really good sense of, you know, knowing if a man's about it or not.

02:01:56.960 So, you know, I would definitely would not recommend this for, you know, beginners definitely work on yourself.

02:02:01.960 You know, I'm definitely in shape.

02:02:03.960 I would, I would definitely not do this.

02:02:05.960 Uh, if you're not at least like somewhat fit here.

02:02:08.960 Yeah.

02:02:09.960 Okay.

02:02:10.960 Do you have any other questions, Doug MPA?

02:02:13.960 I do not.

02:02:14.960 Thank you for calling.

02:02:15.960 Yeah.

02:02:16.960 Thanks so much for calling.

02:02:17.960 Yeah.

02:02:18.960 Yeah.

02:02:19.960 Call in any time.

02:02:20.960 Okay.

02:02:21.960 Thank you, Pearl.

02:02:22.960 Thank you.

02:02:23.960 Bye bye.

02:02:24.960 Bye.

02:02:25.960 Fazel says, there are two things I didn't do on the elevator farting in the elevator and getting

02:02:29.960 on the elevator alone with the female, unless there's another man around.

02:02:32.960 I'm glad you go to extreme lengths to protect yourself.

02:02:36.960 Um, let me train for six months to try to score a three Oh four.

02:02:45.960 Yippee.

02:02:46.960 I mean, guys, don't you just want to be in shape for yourself?

02:02:50.960 Like, I don't, don't you guys want to feel like hot.

02:02:55.960 I'm always excited about getting on live with Pearl.

02:02:58.960 Maybe too excited.

02:02:59.960 I don't know how to take that, but I hope that was not, I'm going to just assume that

02:03:08.960 wasn't in a weird way.

02:03:10.960 Thank you.

02:03:11.960 Roulette wheel.

02:03:12.960 Okay.

02:03:13.960 Um, you can put someone who else is the next, but yeah, you can put them on.

02:03:29.960 Hey, Zach, what's going on?

02:03:31.960 Hey, can you see me or I can hear you, but I can't see you.

02:03:35.960 Here we go.

02:03:36.960 Yeah.

02:03:37.960 Fresh work.

02:03:38.960 How are you?

02:03:39.960 I'm doing good.

02:03:40.960 I, uh, doing good.

02:03:42.960 It's chat is listening to your chat.

02:03:45.960 And I'm a little confused.

02:03:46.960 Like, I guess I asked one question to start it off of the men that have called in, which

02:03:51.960 of those men would you most like, you know, most like to be essentially cause I feel like

02:03:55.960 women are just kind of like those dudes are calling in and they have nothing going for

02:03:59.960 them.

02:04:00.960 Except for the fact that they, they, they can chase women.

02:04:02.960 So I guess that's kind of wild.

02:04:04.960 Okay.

02:04:05.960 Well, that's, it's not really the topic, but you know, um, so I really just want to know

02:04:11.960 your age, your, um, where you're calling from and your experience on dating apps or if,

02:04:17.960 or, you know, if you've been meeting women elsewhere, yeah, go ahead.

02:04:22.960 Yeah.

02:04:23.960 Sorry.

02:04:24.960 I'm 30.

02:04:25.960 I live in Georgia.

02:04:26.960 Um, I, I don't, I haven't used dating apps in a bit.

02:04:31.960 Uh, it's kind of, you said, like, you know, it's all the picture that you're, you know,

02:04:36.960 the, the picture perfect idea that you're selling is the only thing that really seems

02:04:39.960 to be the, uh, main, I guess, driving point for getting the matches.

02:04:44.960 I'm kind of like, that's kind of stupid.

02:04:46.960 Like I'm not looking to sell a picture.

02:04:48.960 I'm kind of looking to find someone who's interested in what they can, you know, in their

02:04:52.960 investment.

02:04:53.960 And, uh, you know, okay.

02:04:56.960 So where have you been dating and meeting women?

02:04:58.960 Uh, I just meet women at bars and, uh, that's generally about, I spent a lot of time on the

02:05:06.960 internet and I feel like I'm kind of like, you know, average man in some ways, but I have

02:05:09.960 a pretty superior drive in regards to like, you know, developing like STEM fields.

02:05:14.960 Uh, cool.

02:05:15.960 Cool.

02:05:16.960 And so it's, it's been, yeah, it's been a, uh, it's been a mission to get a woman to,

02:05:19.960 like you say, mathematics and they don't, they don't bet a bad eye.

02:05:21.960 It's kind of like, well, that's interesting, I suppose, because I guess the observation

02:05:27.960 I have is women seem to be, the more a man is, uh, invested with technology.

02:05:32.960 Women are like, no, no, you're invested with technology.

02:05:35.960 Like I see it like a, like a bad thing or something.

02:05:38.960 And so they go for guys who are kind of goofy in a sense, like nothing, nothing amounting

02:05:42.960 to like, and it's kind of hard to join in a situation where it's like, when we're just

02:05:46.960 taking those guys in over and over as opposed to really evaluating man for like, what is

02:05:50.960 he looking to, uh, build, I suppose.

02:05:52.960 So are you happy with the quality of the women you've been meeting at the bars?

02:05:56.960 Like, are they attractive, young?

02:06:00.960 Good question.

02:06:01.960 Yeah.

02:06:02.960 So, uh, some of them are attractive.

02:06:03.960 I'd say probably about one in like 25 or so are pretty attractive, but generally they,

02:06:11.960 they have like some kind of, uh, hangup around aspects of like technology as being like a useful

02:06:19.960 tool in any kind of way.

02:06:20.960 They're like looking for guys who were like dumbed out of it or have lived a, uh, like a

02:06:25.960 movie style life.

02:06:26.960 And they're going for, you know, just, it's just like, it's just very seemingly to me, it's

02:06:31.960 just very like divorced from reality.

02:06:34.960 What do you mean by that?

02:06:36.960 So they don't want men that like you work in technology, so they don't like your job.

02:06:42.960 Uh, so I've been, uh, working on developing some theories in mathematics that would connect

02:06:48.960 other theories, you know, in the past, there's only been the aspect of like word of mouth,

02:06:54.960 whereas nowadays there's internet full of information.

02:06:56.960 So kind of grabbing a theory here and trying to, uh, work on different diagrammatic elements

02:07:03.960 of algorithms that I build.

02:07:04.960 Uh, so it's like, I guess.

02:07:06.960 How do these women know that you're into like tech and stuff?

02:07:09.960 Do you share it with them?

02:07:10.960 Yeah.

02:07:11.960 Yeah.

02:07:12.960 I mentioned to it, like, you know, this is what I'm about.

02:07:13.960 Why?

02:07:14.960 And why?

02:07:15.960 Why do you do that?

02:07:16.960 Because that's a signal that you're, you know, going to be something or potentially

02:07:19.960 anyway.

02:07:20.960 Because you got to have a selective bank of information that you share with women without

02:07:28.960 them knowing who, who, who you really are and what your interests are up front.

02:07:32.960 No, I hear you.

02:07:33.960 I hear you.

02:07:34.960 I mean, I'm more interested in usually in the women who I've, I've got to know through

02:07:37.960 just like day to day life, as opposed to, I'm not really going to the bar, like putting

02:07:41.960 all of my eggs into any basket.

02:07:43.960 I might, might throw a line out here.

02:07:45.960 I'm like, okay, we'll see where this goes.

02:07:46.960 It doesn't go anywhere.

02:07:47.960 So move on to the next, uh, I can really know a little bit about a woman before just

02:07:52.960 immediately like, well, this is the one or going into a guess, like, you know, casual

02:07:57.960 encounter.

02:07:58.960 So in terms of, you said day to day life, where are you meeting them?

02:08:02.960 Is it like through friends?

02:08:03.960 Is it like, is there a specific place?

02:08:06.960 Friends, uh, going to like bartenders, uh, mostly it kind of just spending the day,

02:08:13.960 you know, doing the math and then going out and have a little bit of fun at some point.

02:08:18.960 Okay.

02:08:19.960 Yeah.

02:08:20.960 I don't know.

02:08:21.960 I just wish women would put a little bit more, like I've talked on clubhouse before

02:08:24.960 and had a woman say potential, like laugh their ass off about like, you're trying to

02:08:27.960 say like, Hey, you know, you have something you're working on.

02:08:30.960 It seems like a, it seems like a sellout mission.

02:08:33.960 That's not really probably going to lead anywhere.

02:08:35.960 When the men that you're selecting to be your leaders are, you know, kind of just all they're

02:08:40.960 concerned about is like, can I live or can I die to live for some pussy?

02:08:43.960 And it's like, okay, well that's, that's great and all, but I don't think you're gonna

02:08:46.960 be fulfilled at the end of the day.

02:08:47.960 Just, you know, banking on that being, I mean, I guess that's kind of the idea, right?

02:08:50.960 History wise.

02:08:51.960 But I think we should maybe take a idea of what technology can bring.

02:08:54.960 Yeah.

02:08:55.960 I'm a little confused.

02:08:56.960 Cause I don't see women like women, like guys with big social media followings and stuff.

02:09:03.960 So I don't think women see technology as like a detriment, but maybe it's a different type

02:09:08.960 of technology, you know, that you're like, yeah, go ahead.

02:09:13.960 Yeah.

02:09:14.960 I would say a different type of technology, but also the social media is like kind of like

02:09:17.960 a, a screen, you know, it's like, it's, it's going through something.

02:09:20.960 So now we're like, they're like saying like, they're not so much viewing it as in the sense

02:09:24.960 of like, these guys are involved with tech.

02:09:26.960 They're just like, here they are right in front of me.

02:09:27.960 Like, yeah.

02:09:29.960 Okay.

02:09:30.960 Don't ever fall for that thing where, um, cause you see on social media and on TV that women

02:09:37.960 are, there are more women nerds than ever, but it's still such a small minority.

02:09:45.960 But, but TV and social media will make you think that being a nerd is okay to women.

02:09:52.960 And it's still not, it's not okay to be, to be a nerd.

02:09:56.960 Like what do you, what do you mean?

02:09:57.960 Because like, I mean, there's so many scales, there's so many scales to what you're referring

02:10:00.960 to.

02:10:01.960 And like, you know, you can be like, well, I'm not a nerd, but you're not in the streets

02:10:04.960 either.

02:10:05.960 Like you might be like, I'm not a nerd, but you can't go anywhere you want.

02:10:08.960 Well, so like, you know, I consider myself a nerd, you know, but my background noise

02:10:12.960 is like Star Trek.

02:10:14.960 You know, I love the next generation.

02:10:16.960 I love DS9.

02:10:17.960 I love Star Trek Voyager.

02:10:18.960 I don't like the new stuff, but like Star Wars and stuff like that.

02:10:22.960 But I just don't share it with the women that I date.

02:10:25.960 I don't say I like Star Wars off the bat.

02:10:26.960 Why would I do that?

02:10:27.960 Like most women still don't like Star Wars.

02:10:30.960 Right.

02:10:31.960 But that's also very different though.

02:10:32.960 Like Star Wars doesn't lead anywhere.

02:10:33.960 It's like, it's like, I'm not saying I'm into Yu-Gi-Oh!

02:10:35.960 So women are like, oh, fuck.

02:10:37.960 Well, no, no, but I'm using that as an example.

02:10:42.960 No, but what I'm saying is I'm using that as an example as to not overshare about your

02:10:49.960 interest in technology and what you're doing.

02:10:51.960 Find other ways that'll show you your potential and your interest besides talking about tech

02:10:58.960 because most women still don't like it.

02:11:00.960 It sucks, but it's true.

02:11:02.960 I mean, but like, we should probably like maybe bridge that gap so women don't keep selecting

02:11:08.960 like, no, you can't, you can't change women.

02:11:12.960 No, man.

02:11:13.960 You can't.

02:11:14.960 It's not your problem.

02:11:15.960 I hear you.

02:11:16.960 I hear you.

02:11:17.960 I mean, I don't know.

02:11:18.960 I mean, it sets up for a terrible future then.

02:11:20.960 I mean, that's like, that's like, that's like me telling guys not to like big tits.

02:11:24.960 Like, it's just not going to happen.

02:11:25.960 You know, that's like me saying, guys, don't be blinded by big tits and a big ass.

02:11:32.960 Like, don't be doing one things in that like, like, don't, don't always been evaluated.

02:11:39.960 Generally, I would say on like, what are they developing as opposed to just being like,

02:11:43.960 who are you?

02:11:44.960 And so nowadays it's like a whole flip.

02:11:46.960 It's like, well, who are you?

02:11:47.960 You know, I want to get to know you.

02:11:48.960 No, we just like, we just never leave high school.

02:11:51.960 We just like the popular guy.

02:11:53.960 It's true.

02:11:54.960 Yeah.

02:11:55.960 It's like, yeah.

02:11:56.960 It's like, we want the, as soon as women got the chance to not pick men for resources,

02:12:02.960 we bounced.

02:12:03.960 So as soon as we could pick muscles popular, that's what we did.

02:12:08.960 So.

02:12:09.960 And so like.

02:12:10.960 Isn't that kind of a full mission though?

02:12:11.960 Yeah.

02:12:12.960 You're thinking of it from a guy.

02:12:13.960 We're not logical.

02:12:14.960 You can't like logic women into liking.

02:12:16.960 Right.

02:12:17.960 But at the same time, it's like resources aren't just going out of style.

02:12:20.960 It's like there's different resources.

02:12:22.960 Well, women don't need it anymore.

02:12:24.960 I mean, there's some bullshit HR job.

02:12:26.960 There's absolutely many resources that women need.

02:12:28.960 And that's what I'm confused around.

02:12:30.960 It's like, so you're just going to.

02:12:31.960 Not really.

02:12:32.960 I mean, women care about resources.

02:12:34.960 They don't, they don't care about how you get it.

02:12:37.960 So you don't have to talk about how you get resources.

02:12:40.960 Just show them that you have it.

02:12:43.960 Like don't talk about work and your interests.

02:12:46.960 If it's, if it's something that, that attractive women don't want to hear because you can end up

02:12:51.960 talking yourself out of a situation that could be leading somewhere.

02:12:56.960 Yeah.

02:12:57.960 That's good.

02:12:58.960 That's pretty.

02:12:59.960 And also women don't really need, I mean, like I've been, I've talked a bit.

02:13:02.960 There's much that women do actually need from men in regards to technology.

02:13:06.960 Like this, the world's not solved.

02:13:07.960 Like if you want to just die and get old, I mean, I guess, or get old and die.

02:13:10.960 I know, but wait, wait.

02:13:12.960 Okay.

02:13:13.960 So again, but my point is that women can get a bunch of debt and just declare bankruptcy.

02:13:19.960 Boom.

02:13:20.960 Get out of jail free cards.

02:13:21.960 They can go get on government benefits.

02:13:23.960 Boom.

02:13:24.960 They can go get divorced.

02:13:25.960 So they can, they can marry a guy and then, or, or they don't even have to get married.

02:13:29.960 They can just get a kid off of them.

02:13:31.960 Support.

02:13:32.960 Boom.

02:13:33.960 Don't need your resources.

02:13:34.960 But like, get, get some bullshit, some bullshit HR job where you don't even do much and you

02:13:39.960 just like do meetings all day.

02:13:41.960 Boom.

02:13:42.960 Only fans.

02:13:43.960 The same end game pretty much.

02:13:44.960 Right.

02:13:45.960 Like, like money, money, money's good, but it's not the main resource.

02:13:48.960 It's kind of like the crypto guys.

02:13:49.960 Like they're like, fuck it, man.

02:13:50.960 I mean, crypto.

02:13:51.960 It's like that, that was, that's the investment.

02:13:52.960 That's invested.

02:13:53.960 It's been around for women, you know, thousands or millions of years.

02:13:55.960 It just goes back to popularity and like muscles.

02:13:58.960 Like that's why all of our, all of our, um, movies that we watch are women picking between

02:14:03.960 money and like what we would say love.

02:14:05.960 So it's like Jack, like the, like Titanic.

02:14:08.960 Right.

02:14:09.960 The, like the Rose was like 90 talking about some fling she had with this hot broke guy

02:14:15.960 and that she left the money.

02:14:18.960 Right.

02:14:19.960 The notebook.

02:14:20.960 It's the same thing.

02:14:21.960 It was her high school, hot boyfriend.

02:14:22.960 And she was engaged.

02:14:23.960 Like that, that's fantasy in a sense, right?

02:14:25.960 I know, but it's, but it's not, it speaks to female psychology because that's generally

02:14:30.960 what women have to pick from.

02:14:32.960 Like the guys we're attracted to or the guys that'll stick.

02:14:35.960 We don't, that's, that's generally what women have to pick from the guys that we're

02:14:41.960 attracted to or the guys that stick around.

02:14:43.960 If we find both, it's very rare and we usually can't lock it down because everyone wants it.

02:14:50.960 If next time you go out with a girl dating app or otherwise, let her talk the whole time,

02:14:59.960 ask her questions about her and let her talk about herself.

02:15:02.960 Sure.

02:15:03.960 I mean, yeah.

02:15:04.960 I'm dead serious, man.

02:15:05.960 It works.

02:15:06.960 It works.

02:15:07.960 Barely say anything about you.

02:15:09.960 Maybe answer your question.

02:15:11.960 Right.

02:15:12.960 It would be as most of the time women want to talk about themselves.

02:15:15.960 So just learn how to keep them talking about themselves.

02:15:18.960 It works.

02:15:19.960 I'm telling you, ask them about themselves and have them talk about.

02:15:22.960 Now you have to get used to hear a woman talk about herself and BS for an hour or two

02:15:27.960 at a time.

02:15:28.960 That's the hardest part.

02:15:29.960 I'm telling you, you don't want to talk yourself out of something that could be going somewhere.

02:15:34.960 Yeah.

02:15:35.960 No.

02:15:36.960 So basically it's what you're both saying essentially that like, and this is what I'm

02:15:39.960 getting from it, is that like, if you're outlier, you're kind of possibly removed from

02:15:43.960 like gaining any benefits in that until it's like already kind of became a more relevant

02:15:48.960 sort of factor.

02:15:49.960 Wait, say that again.

02:15:51.960 Like, so, you know, I guess I'm saying like, if you give me the choice of being very strong

02:15:56.960 or very intelligent, I'm going to choose very intelligent because of the times we're living

02:15:59.960 in.

02:16:00.960 And so I'm saying is like, if you're outlier in that category, would that be a scenario

02:16:04.960 where you're just kind of like out of the loop basically?

02:16:07.960 Well, just because that's what you would pick.

02:16:10.960 It doesn't mean that's what women would pick.

02:16:12.960 Yes, but it's not kind of objective in the sense of like nowadays technology is much more

02:16:18.960 valuable than set of muscles.

02:16:19.960 I mean, I don't know.

02:16:20.960 No, no, not to women.

02:16:22.960 Like again, you're thinking for like a logic, you're thinking like a man, but to women,

02:16:28.960 not at all.

02:16:30.960 I mean, I can't change all the opinion.

02:16:33.960 I suppose that's a said and done.

02:16:35.960 I want to, wait, hold on.

02:16:36.960 I want to show this tick tock in a second.

02:16:39.960 Cause I think that's very, I mean, but I guess my point, where did he go?

02:16:44.960 I get that you have to be an outlier in this regard, but technology is going to take

02:16:49.960 you a lot farther than I guess, like a trust fund, trust fund kid with a set of muscles

02:16:55.960 who's not being fulfilled in life or not going to be fulfilled by the end of it all.

02:16:58.960 I don't know.

02:16:59.960 I mean, I guess you could be fulfilled in some regards otherwise, but if you have a

02:17:03.960 guy that has a successful technology company built it from the ground up, but then you

02:17:08.960 have a guy who has a trust fund.

02:17:12.960 Like women don't care how you got there, bro.

02:17:15.960 They just don't.

02:17:16.960 Yeah.

02:17:17.960 Yeah.

02:17:18.960 I'm not thinking of a technology company.

02:17:19.960 I'm saying being control of the means for things that are technological based upon life

02:17:24.960 itself.

02:17:25.960 I'm not saying like, I want to make a billion dollars.

02:17:26.960 Like that seems like a little bit small for eyes nowadays.

02:17:28.960 I mean, how many billionaires are out there?

02:17:29.960 How many billions does the top right to the top have like hundreds of them?

02:17:32.960 So it's not about like really just like how, uh, like what, what money can I get?

02:17:37.960 Money's kind of a dead game.

02:17:38.960 I think, I mean, if you're still playing for money, I mean, shit, like I wouldn't, I wouldn't

02:17:42.960 want to.

02:17:43.960 Okay.

02:17:44.960 I want to, I want to show something that I feel like is relevant.

02:17:47.960 Can we share my screen?

02:17:49.960 Yeah.

02:17:50.960 Okay.

02:17:51.960 Wait.

02:17:52.960 So let me.

02:17:53.960 What advice would you give to guys to get laid?

02:17:54.960 I think the best thing you could do is just lie bare, bro.

02:17:56.960 Just lie.

02:17:57.960 Lie about your job.

02:17:58.960 Lie about betting.

02:17:59.960 Just lie.

02:18:00.960 What advice would you give to guys to get laid?

02:18:07.960 I think the best thing you could do is just lie bare, bro.

02:18:10.960 And the top comments are agree because they're going to lie to you first.

02:18:14.960 If you're telling a woman the truth, you're actually trolling about yourself.

02:18:18.960 This is top tier advice.

02:18:21.960 Anyways, I just thought it was relevant to this conversation.

02:18:25.960 There's just, there's just always a difference between what should be and what is, and you

02:18:32.960 just got to reconcile that, man.

02:18:34.960 Like you, what you're talking, there's no disagreement here.

02:18:39.960 What you're saying would be nice, but it's just not going to happen that way.

02:18:44.960 Especially the kind of women that you would want, you know, that are attractive and that you would

02:18:50.960 find attractive and want to have on your arm, bro.

02:18:53.960 They don't give a dang.

02:18:54.960 They just don't.

02:18:55.960 They don't care.

02:18:56.960 And the thing is, it's like, again, you know, it's, it's the same thing as like women asking

02:19:02.960 men not to give special treatment to women that are attractive.

02:19:05.960 Like you guys do.

02:19:06.960 You always will.

02:19:07.960 Like if they're like, you know, there was a girl on my team that had huge boobs, but she

02:19:12.960 was a big bitch, but all the guys, like they loved her and guys did date her even though

02:19:18.960 she was a bitch.

02:19:19.960 Cause she was hot.

02:19:20.960 Like, what, what am I going to do?

02:19:21.960 Get mad?

02:19:22.960 Like that's the game.

02:19:23.960 Yeah.

02:19:24.960 So just look at what, look at what is, because if you look, if you keep focusing on what should,

02:19:31.960 you're just not going to get anywhere, but you should keep working on your grind and

02:19:36.960 what you're doing a hundred percent, but you got to separate that away from women.

02:19:40.960 And there's going to be a time where there's more tangibles where you, you have more to

02:19:45.960 show and you can talk about it or something, but just right now, man, just keep it to yourself.

02:19:49.960 And just once again, when you're out on a deal with a girl, just keep her talking about

02:19:54.960 her, man.

02:19:55.960 Absolutely.

02:19:56.960 All right.

02:19:57.960 Appreciate y'all.

02:19:58.960 Thanks.

02:19:59.960 All right.

02:20:00.960 We'll do another caller.

02:20:20.960 Hello.

02:20:22.960 Hey, bro.

02:20:23.960 How's it going?

02:20:24.960 I'm good.

02:20:25.960 How are you?

02:20:26.960 Wow.

02:20:27.960 Doing well.

02:20:28.960 Not feeling, not feeling on camera today.

02:20:31.960 Uh, yeah.

02:20:32.960 One second.

02:20:33.960 I could actually probably put it.

02:20:36.960 How's it going?

02:20:38.960 Where are you calling out of?

02:20:39.960 You've called in before, haven't you?

02:20:41.960 I've called in before.

02:20:43.960 Uh, I'm 27 calling out of DC.

02:20:47.960 Oh, cool.

02:20:48.960 So are you on the dating apps?

02:20:51.960 I am actually not on the dating apps.

02:20:54.960 Um, I got off the dating apps probably about two years ago now.

02:20:58.960 Um, I, I mean, the main reason was because when I was on the dating apps, I realized I

02:21:04.960 had less of a tendency or less of a desire to actually, uh, interact with women in person.

02:21:10.960 Um, you know, um, you know, I think us all as, all as guys, we have, um, you know, that, that fear of rejection that we all have to overcome at some point, specifically when it comes to dating.

02:21:21.960 Um, and I realized that while I was on the dating apps, I wasn't taking, um, the initiative and the opportunities that I had presented to me in person.

02:21:30.960 Um, so I would say my dating life got a lot better after I got off the dating apps.

02:21:35.960 Okay.

02:21:36.960 And where do you meet women now?

02:21:38.960 Uh, that's a good question.

02:21:42.960 So for me personally, the best place has been the gym.

02:21:45.960 Um, I spent a lot of time there, work out every day.

02:21:48.960 Uh, so I definitely met a lot of girls just from, um, meeting them at the gym.

02:21:54.960 And again, I'm not, I know since I am a regular there, I'm pretty careful about, um, you know, the women that I approach and how I do it.

02:22:02.960 Um, you know, I go at a, at a, at a bunch of different times to do my schedule.

02:22:06.960 Yeah.

02:22:07.960 Be very careful, man.

02:22:08.960 You don't want to, you don't want to ruin your, um, your gym piece.

02:22:13.960 Like as in like peace at the gym by hitting on the wrong girl, man, because I had that happen when I was young.

02:22:20.960 Yeah.

02:22:21.960 I'm the wrong girl.

02:22:22.960 It turns into, into something.

02:22:23.960 And then your whole gym experience has messed up because I, that was back in my twenties.

02:22:27.960 So watch out, man, be careful in the gym.

02:22:30.960 Yeah, no, I agree.

02:22:31.960 And I would second that.

02:22:32.960 Um, yeah, for me, like I have a couple of different gym memberships as well.

02:22:36.960 Um, and again, like when I do interact, have these interactions with girls, it's usually off of something.

02:22:41.960 I'm not usually just approaching to go into the kill.

02:22:44.960 I'm usually asking about, um, well, it's funny.

02:22:47.960 Cause like, you can tell kind of if a girl's possibly finds you attractive, you'll get like, maybe a look, maybe or something, maybe sometimes you don't.

02:22:55.960 But if you just ask something like, Hey, um, how are those shoes to work out?

02:22:59.960 And I literally asked the girl that the other day.

02:23:01.960 Um, it's an easy way to start a conversation kind of, it can sometimes be something dumb.

02:23:06.960 Um, and you can tell right off the bat, it's like, okay, this girl's pretty receptive.

02:23:10.960 She's possibly interested and then you can progress from there.

02:23:14.960 But yeah, I agree.

02:23:15.960 You definitely don't want to, you know, just go in for the kill immediately.

02:23:18.960 It's not like a nightclub.

02:23:19.960 And so what do you suggest for guys?

02:23:21.960 Like what time of day is the best?

02:23:24.960 Um, so that's, that's a great opener.

02:23:27.960 Like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I would say definitely daytime.

02:23:32.960 I'm, I'm big on daytime approaching.

02:23:34.960 Uh, just for me personally, I've done the whole nightclub thing.

02:23:37.960 I've done the dating apps.

02:23:38.960 Um, I've had somewhat success, uh, in both of those avenues, but I think there's a lot that sets you apart.

02:23:47.960 And really what's going to set guys apart that want to date in that age range that we were talking about earlier, 18 to 25.

02:23:54.960 Um, I, I really think is the ability to, um, have an in-person interaction during daytime.

02:24:00.960 I think that's something that a lot of women don't come across.

02:24:05.960 Um, I agree with that a hundred percent.

02:24:08.960 Right.

02:24:09.960 We said that because I think that the younger women expect to be approached at night, but not during.

02:24:15.960 Not during, I think a lot of younger modern women.

02:24:19.960 It's, it's feast or famine is either they don't get approached at all, or they get approached all the time.

02:24:24.960 And when they get approached all the time, it's not during the day at all.

02:24:27.960 So yeah, I agree with you a hundred percent.

02:24:30.960 That's really good advice.

02:24:32.960 So, so you would say at the gym or maybe out and about during the day, approach a woman in public.

02:24:39.960 Yeah, a hundred percent.

02:24:41.960 Okay.

02:24:42.960 That's good advice.

02:24:43.960 But that's really what's going to set you apart.

02:24:45.960 And especially like, I'm in my late twenties.

02:24:47.960 So like, um, even if you are in your thirties and you're trying to date younger women, it's like, if you can have a good, normal interaction, you know, laugh, smile, be normal, show that you're not a creep and just, you know, make it casual.

02:25:01.960 I think that's the best way.

02:25:02.960 And then you can move in from there.

02:25:03.960 There's a lot of times where I'll approach an interaction, have a conversation with the girl.

02:25:08.960 And, you know, maybe I'm not necessarily getting the vibe that she's particularly interested in talking to me.

02:25:14.960 And then it's just like, you know, have a good day.

02:25:16.960 Like there's not, I'm not actually still following through on the intent.

02:25:19.960 Um, but I think the biggest first step is just like getting used to having those daily interactions.

02:25:24.960 I want to, have you noticed that because I've noticed women under 30, especially with the advent of social media, um, they, they just don't dress presentable in public during the day.

02:25:39.960 Because I've, I've approached women and, you know, you're like, Hey, you want to get dinner sometime?

02:25:46.960 And then when you pick them up, you're like, wow, you look, but they look good.

02:25:51.960 So the dress up for pictures on social media and stuff, but like out and about during the day, they're wearing like flip flops and, and, and, um, and, and Crocs and stuff.

02:26:03.960 Has that been your experience too?

02:26:05.960 Yeah, no, I would say that's, that's pretty true.

02:26:09.960 Um, and I think that started happening.

02:26:11.960 I don't even know when that started happening.

02:26:13.960 Yeah.

02:26:14.960 I think I can play in her favor and not like, there are some girls like, you know, that might've just rolled out of bed.

02:26:20.960 And they're trying to go to the pharmacy to pick something up before a work meeting.

02:26:24.960 And they're really not trying to talk to anybody and it's probably not the best time to approach them.

02:26:28.960 But that's really also why I do like the gym setting.

02:26:30.960 Um, because you know, if you're into girls that are in shape and work out, like, you know, women know that when they go to the gym, they're going to be around a lot of guys.

02:26:38.960 Um, that are hopefully easily attracted in their eyes.

02:26:41.960 Um, so they're usually, even if, even though they are in athletic clothing and they're not like in a dress or super dressed up, um, you know, they're kind of, they're, I guess they're physically prepared in the sense of being put together, um, for, uh, you know, opposite sex interaction.

02:26:57.960 And what do you say about women that wear full makeup to the gym? Is that a red flag or no?

02:27:04.960 That's a good question.

02:27:06.960 Um, yeah, I mean, actually I would say that's a red flag.

02:27:11.960 Like if she's like overdoing it, um, that definitely is a red flag because, you know, especially in that younger age bracket, um, you know, there are a lot of girls that just are there for attention.

02:27:22.960 Um, but again, just overall with the, uh, in person during the day, like I would say the biggest thing, it's just like the opportunity you have to be like high quality women.

02:27:34.960 So, so real quick, the top three things to look for, for a woman to approach in the gym.

02:27:42.960 So how do you, how do you pick out a woman to approach? Like what are the top three things?

02:27:46.960 Yeah. Number one, definitely always, I always say this, you want to make sure that she's not there with another guy.

02:27:51.960 Um, thankfully I haven't had it that run in, but I'm always like conscientious of like, okay, have I seen this girl with a guy before?

02:28:00.960 Um, because that's the last thing you want to do is like, I mean, for a lot of reasons, you just don't want, you just don't want to do that.

02:28:07.960 Um, so that's one thing to definitely look out for.

02:28:10.960 Uh, number two, I would say, you know, body language is big.

02:28:15.960 If she's always had her head down, um, never really looking around, um, you don't see her interacting with other people.

02:28:22.960 Um, you know, there's, it's not necessarily one of those things, but more so a combination of all those things.

02:28:28.960 Uh, she's probably not open to the talking and then, uh, number three.

02:28:34.960 Yeah.

02:28:35.960 I mean, I would say just a girl that's not just doing the most.

02:28:39.960 Uh, I think most guys like low key attractive girls.

02:28:42.960 Like, yes, we like some, like it's tough to physically look at a girl that's wearing like a big pushup bra or something.

02:28:48.960 Um, but also at the same time, like you want a girl that's like not dressed or wearing a full face of makeup, trying to get as much attention as possible.

02:28:56.960 You just want someone that's like down to earth, normal, um, you know, kind of the same vibe that you're on.

02:29:02.960 And what, so you said a daytime, what time of day do you recommend for men?

02:29:09.960 Like noon one.

02:29:12.960 Yeah.

02:29:13.960 Yeah.

02:29:14.960 I mean, I think as early as that would be great.

02:29:16.960 Um, I, I go to the gym sometimes in the morning.

02:29:19.960 I'll be honest.

02:29:20.960 I haven't had too many interactions in the morning.

02:29:22.960 Um, but I would say, yeah, my sweet spot for me is, uh, either right before or right after lunchtime.

02:29:28.960 So that's like, yeah, around noon to two o'clock.

02:29:32.960 Um, I've definitely found myself, uh, getting in a couple of good interactions.

02:29:37.960 So, um, and also like, if you're, if you're in your head about it and you're like, oh, there's this girl at the gym that I want to approach.

02:29:45.960 Um, like you don't want to do it when you're too in your head, but also like use other opportunities that you have in front of you to warm up.

02:29:53.960 So like, if you know a guy at the gym, um, or even the person at the front desk that checks you in, like try to have a conversation with them before, like get your social juices flowing.

02:30:02.960 Um, because again, the number one thing I think when you're approaching women in the gym is to be casual, be normal.

02:30:09.960 Like you don't want to put her on the spot too much.

02:30:11.960 You don't want to just go in directly for the kill.

02:30:13.960 You need to be able to hold at least a five, I would say at least a five minute interaction just about working out about even the weather.

02:30:21.960 I don't care, but you don't want to just, uh, you know, go in all nervous and shaky and asking for your social media.

02:30:28.960 Um, that's probably not.

02:30:30.960 And where else have you approached women?

02:30:33.960 Is it just the gym or are there other places in person you'd recommend?

02:30:37.960 Yeah.

02:30:38.960 Uh, I would say shopping malls are, I mean, I want to say, be careful with the malls.

02:30:44.960 I mean, be careful with the gyms too, but, uh, I think the mall, I mean, you don't have to be too careful with them.

02:30:51.960 I think a mall is a good place just to practice even.

02:30:53.960 Um, but I have, I mean, I haven't like necessarily gone there to practice, but I've had, uh, you know, conversations and like, uh, or approach the girl in like a target or a shopping.

02:31:06.960 I always like to take the more indirect approach of just having a casual conversation.

02:31:10.960 I know people have different theories.

02:31:11.960 Like, oh, should I approach direct?

02:31:13.960 Should I just.

02:31:14.960 You know, go right in, tell her, I think she's attractive and I want to take her out.

02:31:18.960 Um, for me personally, I like to find something random to talk about and then slowly escalate.

02:31:23.960 Um, just kind of get the vibe first.

02:31:25.960 It also gives you a quicker and easier way out.

02:31:28.960 And do you have any openers that you recommend for guys?

02:31:31.960 I liked the shoe one.

02:31:33.960 Cause I think that question, I think as a woman, it's like, I'm only going to give you an in-depth answer.

02:31:39.960 If I'm interested in talking to you, you know?

02:31:42.960 So yeah.

02:31:43.960 Yeah.

02:31:44.960 Yeah.

02:31:45.960 No, I would say the opener definitely depends on the setting.

02:31:46.960 Um, like for example, one of my, one of my openers, um, in a club for.

02:31:52.960 One summer was like, I know I'm your type.

02:31:55.960 Like I would go up to a girl and say that.

02:31:57.960 I wouldn't, I wouldn't say that obviously during the day or at the gym.

02:32:00.960 Like I know I'm your type.

02:32:02.960 Um, but I think if you're trying to go the in-person route, uh, good opener.

02:32:07.960 I, I just try to find like the most.

02:32:11.960 Not random things, but something that could be easy to talk about in front of things.

02:32:16.960 So like, yeah, like for example, I saw this girl with like the new Nike shoes that I was honestly actually thinking about getting.

02:32:21.960 But something like that's a good opener.

02:32:23.960 Cause you can just be like, um, Hey, how do you like their shoes?

02:32:26.960 I was looking at them at the mall yesterday.

02:32:28.960 Um, and then she'll say, yeah, I like them.

02:32:31.960 And you know, that's just kind of a normal thing to ask where it's not like the first thing is I'm waiting to see if she's gonna reject me immediately.

02:32:39.960 Um, and then, I mean, another big thing that I feel like I always ask women because again, I'm kind of a wide range in terms of diversity.

02:32:49.960 Um, a woman that I'll talk to, I'd like to try to guess their ethnicity and then have them guess mine.

02:32:54.960 Um, I probably wouldn't do that off the rib, but, um, yeah, I was about to say that though.

02:32:59.960 Do that off the rib.

02:33:01.960 That would be something where, so like at the gym, I would say, say hi, and then get to the point where you say hi enough times where she notices you when you walk in before you say hi.

02:33:17.960 And then that's when, that's what I used to start.

02:33:22.960 So I would never start hitting on a woman right away, but I would say, Hey, how are you?

02:33:25.960 You know, you know, I saw you working out and then just say hi enough times where she, right when you walk in or she'll come over to you and say, Oh, hi.

02:33:32.960 You know, before you say, if she starts walking up to you and saying hi to you before you say hi to her, that's when you start hitting on her.

02:33:39.960 Yeah, no, that's a great point.

02:33:40.960 And that's the second off that.

02:33:42.960 But yeah, there are some girls where I've played the long game where it's like, even if it does go well, I'm just saying hi, you know, and then maybe the third, fourth, fifth time I see her, we have another conversation.

02:33:52.960 Yep.

02:33:53.960 Social media.

02:33:54.960 That's a really safe route.

02:33:55.960 Good to play the long game, especially if you're seeing a girl recurring throughout the day.

02:34:01.960 Cool.

02:34:02.960 Well, I bet you guys found that really helpful.

02:34:05.960 So thank you so much for calling in.

02:34:07.960 Yeah, of course.

02:34:08.960 Great advice, man.

02:34:09.960 Call back anytime.

02:34:10.960 This is great.

02:34:11.960 Great.

02:34:12.960 Yeah, for sure.

02:34:13.960 I'm definitely gonna call back.

02:34:14.960 And then real quick for what were you saying about a YouTube channel?

02:34:16.960 I've actually been thinking about making one myself.

02:34:20.960 Yeah.

02:34:21.960 So I have like a media agency on the side.

02:34:24.960 So I basically run out my editors and my producers and like we do thumbnails titles like so.

02:34:31.960 And we have content strategists.

02:34:33.960 So you meet with someone like twice a month to talk about if the strategy is working or not working.

02:34:38.960 So we just we're the we like to work with smart, intelligent men that don't feel like learning YouTube.

02:34:45.960 And so we do all the hard stuff.

02:34:47.960 Yeah.

02:34:48.960 So all you have to do is just focus on content.

02:34:51.960 Gotcha.

02:34:52.960 Yeah.

02:34:53.960 If someone's interested in there, like a place to go just period.

02:34:56.960 Um, we we're going to have a landing page soon, but otherwise just message me pearly things on Twitter or email me just pearly things at gmail.com.

02:35:06.960 I'm good.

02:35:08.960 Cool.

02:35:09.960 All right.

02:35:10.960 Well, thanks so much for calling in.

02:35:12.960 Thanks, bro.

02:35:13.960 I'll have you on.

02:35:14.960 Yeah, call back anytime.

02:35:15.960 Great advice.

02:35:16.960 Yeah.

02:35:17.960 All right.

02:35:18.960 Who we got next?

02:35:27.960 Make sure you meet me.

02:35:28.960 Oh, there you go.

02:35:29.960 Hey, Paul.

02:35:30.960 How's it going?

02:35:31.960 Hey, good.

02:35:32.960 How are you?

02:35:33.960 Good.

02:35:34.960 Are you in the better lighting over here?

02:35:36.960 All right.

02:35:37.960 I can see you fine.

02:35:38.960 Where are you at?

02:35:39.960 Rochester, New York.

02:35:41.960 Cool.

02:35:42.960 Are you on the dating apps out there?

02:35:43.960 I am.

02:35:44.960 I've been divorced for eight years after 23 years of marriage.

02:35:48.960 So I'm kind of an old dude.

02:35:49.960 But I got on the dating apps and I'm on Hinge.

02:35:52.960 And there's so many weird profiles out there.

02:35:55.960 See, I'm a film producer, so I kind of look for certain signs.

02:36:00.960 But there's a lot of fake AI stuff out there, too.

02:36:03.960 I don't like it so much.

02:36:04.960 Okay.

02:36:05.960 So where have you been meeting women?

02:36:07.960 If the actually my first question before I go to that.

02:36:10.960 Yeah.

02:36:11.960 Have you met any women off the dating apps?

02:36:13.960 Yeah.

02:36:14.960 Two, actually.

02:36:15.960 And we went out for coffee.

02:36:16.960 It was nice.

02:36:17.960 And I'm still in touch with them.

02:36:19.960 So I don't know.

02:36:20.960 I have an interesting conundrum where I am doing this film that I'm producing.

02:36:30.960 So I meet a lot of people through that, both actors and crew.

02:36:33.960 But I can't date anybody because I'm producing the film.

02:36:36.960 Because that would be weird.

02:36:38.960 Our man.

02:36:39.960 But I love to stay in touch with them afterwards.

02:36:40.960 Yeah.

02:36:41.960 He saw what happened to Weinstein.

02:36:42.960 He said, no, I'm not doing that.

02:36:44.960 Yeah.

02:36:45.960 He said, not today.

02:36:47.960 Not a good idea.

02:36:48.960 No.

02:36:49.960 Actresses, stay away from me.

02:36:51.960 Yeah.

02:36:52.960 Yeah.

02:36:53.960 Yeah.

02:36:54.960 We have a picture with us, though.

02:36:55.960 And I'm still in touch with her.

02:36:57.960 She's a model in Los Angeles.

02:36:59.960 I flew her in to be part of the film.

02:37:01.960 And so I don't know.

02:37:03.960 We'll see what happens with that.

02:37:04.960 Okay.

02:37:05.960 So have you looked anywhere else, like approaching in person?

02:37:09.960 Yeah.

02:37:10.960 At church, actually.

02:37:12.960 I'm kind of a conservative Christian, even though I got this wicked-ass cool tattoo.

02:37:16.960 Okay.

02:37:17.960 Just about a month ago.

02:37:18.960 But, so yeah, church is nice to do that.

02:37:22.960 And it's different for me because I'm 58, you know, and I'm trying to get back into the swing of things.

02:37:27.960 I stayed out of it for six years after the divorce.

02:37:30.960 But these last two years, I'm just like, what am I waiting around for if I want to find somebody?

02:37:35.960 But I'm finding my age is around, you know, 35 to 60, kind of a broad age, right?

02:37:42.960 But still, someone who's in their late 30s isn't too young.

02:37:46.960 At least they don't seem to be a problem with my age.

02:37:50.960 And ladies who are more mature are nice, too.

02:37:54.960 So where have you found the best quality women that you've been dating?

02:37:59.960 Best quality?

02:38:00.960 Like, out of the church, the apps, or mutual friends, like...

02:38:07.960 That's it. Right there.

02:38:08.960 Mutual friends and doing things that you both commonly like.

02:38:11.960 Because then you already have something in common.

02:38:14.960 What, you know, if it might be...

02:38:17.960 Well, in my case, it's kooky stuff.

02:38:20.960 Like, again, I like film, but I like board games.

02:38:22.960 I like things like that.

02:38:23.960 So finding people at parties is kind of nice.

02:38:28.960 Conversing with people at networking events is good.

02:38:33.960 I'm into the growing my own business thing right now.

02:38:36.960 So finding networking, business networking events is kind of cool.

02:38:40.960 Nice.

02:38:41.960 Yeah.

02:38:42.960 I'm just jazzed to talk to you, Pearl, because I've been following you for like over a year now.

02:38:46.960 And I've been wondering what's been up.

02:38:47.960 So I'm glad this is cool that you're doing this now.

02:38:49.960 Yeah, I'm jacked to talk to you too, Paul.

02:38:52.960 I'm glad you called in.

02:38:53.960 Doug MPA, you got any other questions for him?

02:38:56.960 Nope.

02:38:57.960 You know, I hope things go well for you, man.

02:38:58.960 Just be careful with that actress.

02:39:01.960 Oh, I know.

02:39:02.960 Like I said, she's wrapped in it.

02:39:03.960 We've been friendly since.

02:39:05.960 It's been about a month.

02:39:06.960 And it's too long distance for me.

02:39:09.960 I mean, you know, in Western New York versus L.A.,

02:39:12.960 although I am going out to see her in June.

02:39:14.960 So we'll see what happens there.

02:39:16.960 Okay.

02:39:17.960 Well, keep us posted.

02:39:18.960 Let us know.

02:39:19.960 Okay.

02:39:20.960 Yeah.

02:39:21.960 Best of luck, my friend.

02:39:22.960 Okay.

02:39:23.960 Best of luck.

02:39:24.960 Thanks for having me on.

02:39:25.960 Thanks.

02:39:28.960 Let's see.

02:39:29.960 Got one more?

02:39:30.960 Okay.

02:39:35.960 Also, guys, we're trying to finish the divorce documentary, but we're trying to raise some more money.

02:39:43.960 So if anyone knows any investors, feel free to point in my day, my way.

02:39:48.960 We can work something out in terms of deal.

02:39:51.960 But anyways, feel free.

02:39:53.960 Just for only things at gmail.com.

02:39:55.960 Dustin, how's it going?

02:39:57.960 Yeah, it's so good.

02:39:59.960 Hey, where are you at?

02:40:01.960 You look like a Wisconsin or are you in Wisconsin?

02:40:04.960 No, I'm in Washington state.

02:40:05.960 God.

02:40:06.960 Western Washington or Eastern Washington.

02:40:07.960 I'm in Vancouver.

02:40:08.960 So I'm like right by Portland.

02:40:09.960 Yeah.

02:40:10.960 Yeah.

02:40:11.960 I grew up in Washington state, bro.

02:40:12.960 I know.

02:40:13.960 I know where that is.

02:40:14.960 I'm in Vancouver.

02:40:15.960 So I'm like right by Portland.

02:40:17.960 So yeah.

02:40:18.960 Yeah.

02:40:19.960 Yeah.

02:40:20.960 I grew up in Washington state, bro.

02:40:21.960 I know.

02:40:22.960 I know where that is.

02:40:23.960 Oh, yeah.

02:40:24.960 What city?

02:40:25.960 The capital.

02:40:27.960 Oh, gross.

02:40:29.960 I know.

02:40:30.960 So this that I just want to ask Dustin.

02:40:37.960 Um, in your area, because I always say Western Washington is the place where attractive women

02:40:48.960 make themselves ugly to fight the patriarchy.

02:40:51.960 Right?

02:40:52.960 Oh, so true, dude.

02:40:54.960 So true.

02:40:55.960 You have no idea.

02:40:56.960 You see some woman who could be a solid nine, eight, nine, but tattoos.

02:41:03.960 They're they, them in it.

02:41:05.960 Yeah.

02:41:06.960 They got purple hair, septum piercings.

02:41:08.960 They smell like a patchouli, bro.

02:41:11.960 It's ridiculous.

02:41:12.960 Right?

02:41:13.960 Dustin.

02:41:14.960 It's so true.

02:41:15.960 It's like, uh, I met a chick at the ice cream shop about a month ago and color me.

02:41:20.960 And, um, we get back, like I dated for about two weeks.

02:41:25.960 And when I go to her place, I find she doesn't shave her armpits.

02:41:29.960 Oh, that's it.

02:41:30.960 There it is.

02:41:31.960 Yeah.

02:41:32.960 I was like, it was, and I don't even never experienced that before.

02:41:36.960 But when I like slid my hand down and I felt like a guy.

02:41:41.960 I just felt a guy.

02:41:42.960 Ew.

02:41:43.960 Ew.

02:41:44.960 Or, or, or the bushes are out of control.

02:41:47.960 Western Washington girl.

02:41:48.960 I'm talking, yo, you gotta get a weed whacker.

02:41:53.960 It's ridiculous.

02:41:54.960 Like I went to, and all the clubs over here are crazy.

02:41:59.960 They got like every, every club has a theme for like, you know, what kind of weird you are.

02:42:04.960 So I met this chick that looked like the, the, the, like the witch lady off pirates of the Caribbean.

02:42:09.960 You know, I thought, I thought she was real hot though.

02:42:12.960 And.

02:42:13.960 Oh, she just, it was the most interesting scent I've ever had.

02:42:18.960 And I just was like, where does this come from?

02:42:20.960 And it's just, it comes from, it comes from Portland.

02:42:23.960 It's just a smell.

02:42:24.960 Yep.

02:42:25.960 It's all it is.

02:42:26.960 You just Western Washington's.

02:42:29.960 I always say, if you live in Western Washington, Oregon, or California, just move.

02:42:35.960 If you can move.

02:42:37.960 But if you're a simp, you need to get all the simps.

02:42:39.960 You need to buy them a bus and send them over here.

02:42:42.960 Someone's gotta do it.

02:42:44.960 So.

02:42:45.960 So tell me, are, are you on the dating apps, Dustin?

02:42:50.960 Oh yeah.

02:42:51.960 I just started again.

02:42:53.960 I just got one.

02:42:54.960 I just did it two weeks ago.

02:42:56.960 I've downloaded it.

02:42:57.960 And like, so I, okay.

02:43:02.960 So my advice for guys, guys, like, you don't gotta be nice.

02:43:06.960 You know, I think dating is a numbers game.

02:43:08.960 So I always bet out of my league or I put myself in a situation where I'm the man.

02:43:14.960 So like in college, I'm not the best looking guy and I'm only five, seven.

02:43:19.960 So I'm not going to get with the chicks in the white frats, you know?

02:43:22.960 So I joined a Latino fraternity because all the women are shorter than me there.

02:43:26.960 And I was like shagging all the chicks that I was like, none of them would like, give me a second glance.

02:43:33.960 If I was not in this organization and you just got to get rejected like 90% of the time.

02:43:39.960 And like, but if you're always batting out of your league, you're going to get, you're going to land a dime, you know?

02:43:46.960 And so like, so what apps have you found to be the best out of the ones you're on?

02:43:53.960 Uh, well, I'm only on Facebook date now, but like when I had a couple, uh, let's see hinge.

02:44:03.960 I had like hinge.

02:44:04.960 I had the best looking chicks, um, upward.

02:44:09.960 You get very attractive women, but they're like off their rocker.

02:44:15.960 Just the most insane things you've ever heard.

02:44:17.960 What is upward?

02:44:18.960 I've never heard of that.

02:44:19.960 Yeah.

02:44:20.960 It's like, Oh, Christian.

02:44:22.960 Oh, that one.

02:44:23.960 Okay.

02:44:24.960 Okay.

02:44:25.960 Like, I'll, like, hide behind us.

02:44:28.960 It's just crazy.

02:44:29.960 And then Bumble, Bumble was Bumble.

02:44:34.960 You get like feminist on there.

02:44:37.960 Yeah.

02:44:38.960 I think like Bumble is like, um, what do you say?

02:44:41.960 It's more on par.

02:44:42.960 Like you'll match because chicks, chicks are only going to match with you if they think like you have, you're like a little bit better than them.

02:44:49.960 So I think that's probably, uh, like a good one, but you have to spend more time.

02:44:55.960 Like you, you would probably have like a, a longer relationship with that.

02:45:00.960 But, um, yeah, I think like, it, it, it just depends on what your goal is.

02:45:05.960 If your goal is to not be lonely, then you probably want to be on Bumble.

02:45:09.960 So have you done any other avenues?

02:45:13.960 Like recently?

02:45:14.960 Have you tried in person?

02:45:16.960 Like where else have you been meeting women?

02:45:18.960 Oh, yeah.

02:45:19.960 Like, uh, well, uh, I think one guy said, uh, you said something earlier that like guys should just lie.

02:45:28.960 Huh?

02:45:29.960 Okay.

02:45:30.960 You just got to like, you do, women do fall in love with what they hear.

02:45:34.960 Like, because that's like a lot of times guys put their best foot forward, you know, at the beginning.

02:45:39.960 And then when we're like, why don't you love me as much type thing?

02:45:41.960 Because you stop maybe buying flowers every week and doing all that jazz.

02:45:45.960 So like, I just like, um, I started going to this goth club.

02:45:50.960 I'm not goth at all.

02:45:51.960 I don't even know what goth is.

02:45:53.960 There's like a Ouija board you dance with and you dance on at the floor.

02:45:57.960 So I go and I went dressed up like in my accounting clothes.

02:46:02.960 And, uh, I just bought like, I'm batting a hundred there.

02:46:07.960 Like I, I buy two of these goth chicks a drink and both, both of them, they're like just down.

02:46:13.960 I don't know what it is, but I tell them I love goth shit.

02:46:16.960 You know, I listened to this all the time.

02:46:18.960 You don't care.

02:46:22.960 Okay.

02:46:23.960 So guys, I'm sorry, Pearl.

02:46:29.960 Look, some guys have a lot of integrity and they, and it makes them feel bad about lying.

02:46:35.960 So if you don't want to lie, just don't say anything.

02:46:39.960 Yeah.

02:46:40.960 If you can't lie, like I said to the last guy, just get them talking about themselves and don't talk about you.

02:46:46.960 Women can talk about themselves all night.

02:46:48.960 And if you let them, they will.

02:46:51.960 So if you don't want to lie, just don't say anything about yourself.

02:46:55.960 So, um, so you're almost saying like niche clubs are a good place to meet women.

02:47:02.960 Like niche.

02:47:04.960 I think it's good to, you want to put, like, I always thought it was good to put yourself in a unique situation because like I was in high school, I was really shy.

02:47:13.960 I didn't know how to talk to girls.

02:47:16.960 And, um, I had a crush on this chick and she told me.

02:47:20.960 Sorry.

02:47:21.960 Um, she told me, thank you.

02:47:23.960 Uh, she told me that if I went to cheer tryouts, she let me grab her butt.

02:47:26.960 And I thought, okay.

02:47:29.960 So I went to cheer tryouts and they put me on varsity.

02:47:32.960 Cause I was like the only guy.

02:47:34.960 And, and then I started hanging out the cheerleaders all the time.

02:47:37.960 And I'd stay there.

02:47:38.960 Like we'd have these cheer nights and I started to learn like, what do girls like how to talk to them?

02:47:44.960 And I found that you do, you do like, it's really like the, whatever you tell a chick in the first week is probably going to get you like laid or in the friend zone.

02:47:54.960 Like, it's just so like, I don't, I don't say, I don't know if I say much truth in the first week I'm with them.

02:48:02.960 I'm like, I agree with them and figure out what they like.

02:48:06.960 And I stick to that.

02:48:08.960 And so have you tried any other places?

02:48:10.960 So niche clubs, the dating apps?

02:48:13.960 Oh, niche clubs.

02:48:14.960 And if like, I have a decent job, but I pick up part-time jobs in the service industry.

02:48:20.960 Like, um, and I was like, I worked at, I was bartending at a spot for like three months.

02:48:27.960 And then like the one chick I was shagging ended up being like, there's a, not the worst decision of my life, but it was pretty wild.

02:48:33.960 So I was like, you know, I don't need this.

02:48:36.960 So you get jobs and you get part-time jobs and, and restaurants, right?

02:48:41.960 And places.

02:48:42.960 Yeah.

02:48:43.960 I was telling Pearl about restaurants.

02:48:45.960 Didn't I tell you, Pearl?

02:48:46.960 I told you.

02:48:47.960 I never worked at a restaurant.

02:48:48.960 I don't know.

02:48:49.960 It was on and off for eight and a half years, bro.

02:48:51.960 And I can tell you, restaurants are prime example.

02:48:54.960 If I've ever, yeah.

02:48:57.960 What other jobs do you guys recommend?

02:49:00.960 All of you guys.

02:49:01.960 If you have a daughter and she wants to get her first job, keep her out of restaurants, man.

02:49:06.960 Don't let your, any young, young girl or young women work in the restaurants.

02:49:12.960 All they're going to do is get banged by the cooks in the service.

02:49:15.960 That's it.

02:49:16.960 Sorry.

02:49:17.960 Uh, where else?

02:49:19.960 Uh, I'll tell you quick.

02:49:22.960 I had a, when I was bartending, I had a girl wait for me my whole shift.

02:49:25.960 She said I was at 10.

02:49:27.960 I don't know.

02:49:28.960 I mean, she must've had a lot to drink that day.

02:49:30.960 She waited for me my whole shift and I brought her home.

02:49:33.960 And, uh, she had the most rank fart I ever smelled.

02:49:38.960 But, um, and when I took her home, she was like, am I going to see you again?

02:49:42.960 And I said, no way.

02:49:43.960 I can't wait.

02:49:44.960 And, but like, dude, it's like, it's hit or miss though.

02:49:48.960 When you take these part-time jobs, you know, like you really don't know if you're going

02:49:53.960 to.

02:49:54.960 Okay.

02:49:55.960 Being from Washington state.

02:49:56.960 Have you ever got with a girl who was pretty, but kind of hippie looking?

02:50:01.960 Right.

02:50:02.960 Yeah.

02:50:03.960 Right.

02:50:04.960 And then like the, it, it's not, how can I put it here?

02:50:12.960 Like this odor, it doesn't smell bad, but she's like a hippie.

02:50:19.960 I understand what I'm saying.

02:50:20.960 So her hygiene is so like you dive into it anyway, but you can, but you're like, this

02:50:25.960 is the only time that I can tolerate this.

02:50:26.960 I'm not going to tolerate this again.

02:50:28.960 Have you ever had that experience?

02:50:30.960 Yeah.

02:50:31.960 Uh, bro.

02:50:32.960 If you're from Washington, most of us have been through it.

02:50:37.960 Cause you also got to think, man, like women aren't really eating healthy over here.

02:50:41.960 Cause everything's pretty expensive.

02:50:42.960 So, you know, like pineapple's not cheap.

02:50:47.960 So are there any other, so you said part-time jobs, niche clubs, um, dating apps.

02:50:54.960 Is there anything else that you missed just like recently?

02:50:58.960 Not, uh, like, Oh, I have a kid, so it's not really fair.

02:51:02.960 Like not everyone has a kid, but, uh, I met a chick at the playground, like our kids got

02:51:07.960 along and, um, and I didn't like use my daughter for a play date or anything.

02:51:13.960 Cause I never, our kids never hung out after the playground, but that was like, that's

02:51:18.960 pretty easy.

02:51:19.960 Like I'm in, I'm in shape.

02:51:20.960 So the other dads, I'm not really, uh, really, you know, competing with.

02:51:26.960 Right.

02:51:27.960 So out of those four places, where did you find the highest quality?

02:51:33.960 The highest what?

02:51:35.960 Quality of the women.

02:51:37.960 So like out of the four places, was there one where the women were better and worse?

02:51:43.960 I think that actually, I think that actually meeting women, like you don't want to kind

02:51:47.960 of, uh, crap where you eat, you know, but I do think that if you meet women at work,

02:51:53.960 but you don't like, that's not your main thing.

02:51:56.960 Like that's why a part-time job is great.

02:51:58.960 Like if you're a single guy, what else do you have to do besides get a part-time job,

02:52:03.960 save your money and be better, you know?

02:52:06.960 Um, so I think that's good because then when you leave the job too, the woman's gonna be

02:52:11.960 like, oh, like we met here, but he left.

02:52:13.960 And, um, like, and then she gets to tell her, her friends at work too.

02:52:16.960 Like my boyfriend doesn't work anymore.

02:52:18.960 He doesn't need this job.

02:52:19.960 And then she feels like she feels like really good.

02:52:22.960 And, um, she's not just with you too, for like, you're both working in the service industry.

02:52:27.960 So she's not with you for the money.

02:52:28.960 Mm-hmm.

02:52:31.960 Thank you.

02:52:32.960 So I would say that like dating apps, you know, dating apps are just pretty much kind of

02:52:37.960 like, you know, masturbation at this point.

02:52:40.960 You're just using someone else to do it.

02:52:42.960 Yeah.

02:52:43.960 Doug MPA.

02:52:44.960 It's sad.

02:52:45.960 It's really sad.

02:52:46.960 Any other questions you got for him?

02:52:48.960 I do not.

02:52:49.960 No questions here.

02:52:50.960 Thanks for calling in Dustin.

02:52:52.960 Calling anytime.

02:52:53.960 All right.

02:52:54.960 Calling anytime Dustin.

02:52:55.960 Good call.

02:52:56.960 Yeah.

02:52:57.960 Thank you guys.

02:52:58.960 Thank you so much.

02:52:59.960 Have a good one.

02:53:00.960 Yeah.

02:53:01.960 You too.

02:53:02.960 Bye-bye.

02:53:03.960 Now, Doug MPA, you're last.

02:53:04.960 What's your experience on the apps on where you meet in women?

02:53:08.960 And what's your experience?

02:53:09.960 So the, uh, I like what the, I haven't approached women in the gym in a long time, only because

02:53:16.960 I told you, I had that experience that messed up my gym piece.

02:53:19.960 Um, dating apps are really, are dating apps are good depending where you are.

02:53:26.960 So, um, different parts of the country have different characteristics.

02:53:30.960 I just moved back up north from the south.

02:53:33.960 And when I was in the south, it was hard to date online because of the, there's a bunch

02:53:37.960 of baby mamas and a bunch of weaved up tattooed women down south.

02:53:41.960 Um, the, the place I'm in right now, there's a whole bunch of career women.

02:53:46.960 It just depends.

02:53:47.960 But, um, the best part about dating apps is that you don't have to worry about if a

02:53:52.960 woman's available because she has her, her profile on there.

02:53:55.960 So it kind of makes it easier, but you have to have a good profile and you have to know

02:53:59.960 how to, how to talk on the dating app.

02:54:03.960 But, um, I, I would really, I'm gonna put this here.

02:54:08.960 Um, meeting in person, run clubs have always worked for me.

02:54:13.960 Um, going to a bar, you have to go to a bar for a reason.

02:54:17.960 So don't just go to a bar, go to a bar for a trivia night, karaoke night where something

02:54:22.960 is going on.

02:54:24.960 Don't just go to a bar.

02:54:26.960 Don't do clubs.

02:54:28.960 And like the guy said, that was talking about the gym.

02:54:32.960 If you can meet someone through, through friends, that is the best way to do it.

02:54:36.960 If you come recommended, that's half the battle right there.

02:54:39.960 Got it.

02:54:40.960 Well, thank you, Doug MPA.

02:54:42.960 Appreciate your, um, insight as always.

02:54:46.960 Any other final thoughts on the topic?

02:54:49.960 Nope.

02:54:50.960 Uh, I don't know what's going to happen.

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JustPearlyThings - April 14, 2025

Dating Apps Are Dead (Call-in Show) ｜ Pearl Daily

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