JustPearlyThings - Debate Got Heated on TRANSGENDER

00:00:00.000 understand is somehow in some way as much as you have your opinion it is a little bit prejudiced

00:00:06.640 you know and and i get that your prejudice may come from yeah it is prejudice and i think that

00:00:13.280 you know you have to understand that when you've got these viewpoints yeah sometimes it's

00:00:17.280 hypocritical because and that's why i'm using sexuality that's why i'm saying there's probably 0.90

00:00:22.000 women in your bathroom that are checking you out if they're gay if they're lesbians so for you 1.00

00:00:27.200 lesbians can be pretty aggressive and yeah they can so for you to dismiss them and then jump on 1.00

00:00:33.440 trans women but there's no policy but there's no policy that we can push that like you can't do 1.00

00:00:39.120 that because there's again he was saying there's no sign on their head saying that they're gay and

00:00:42.480 they don't have to they don't have to and i'm not saying that i'm not on the trend yeah but it is so

00:00:47.440 obvious oh my gosh it is so obvious especially especially men that men that men that become

00:00:53.920 women it's so obvious you can tell not always no but when you say not always that's like a very

00:01:00.000 small percentage i think the vast majority you can because of the access to care no it's so the

00:01:04.960 access to surgery how many people like trans people have you guys no but not everyone has access to 1.00

00:01:09.440 surgery it's so expensive exactly it's so expensive to make somebody acceptably trans for you for society 0.97

00:01:16.880 they have to go through all these surgeries is that what you're saying it's not it's crazy i'm not

00:01:20.880 saying i'm not i'm saying by identifying i'm not talking about acceptance no i mean i just don't

00:01:25.360 think what if they're stealth then they can go into the toilet right so if you don't if you don't

00:01:29.360 realize that they're a trans woman they can go in there i just don't think it's like because you're

00:01:32.880 not because you're not you're not on edge because they don't have an adam's apple no i just i just think

00:01:36.720 it's like why do i have to agree to the delusion like you're not it doesn't make you the opposite gender

00:01:42.640 because you dress like it and get some surgery some people aren't necessarily even trying to access that

00:01:47.280 they're not even trying to be cisgender some people are not trying to be like their cis counterparts

00:01:54.480 yeah some people are just trying to make the outside match the inside and that doesn't necessarily mean

00:01:58.800 that they will claim that they are cisgender it doesn't it doesn't mean that they want to

00:02:03.920 necessarily be cisgender it just means that they actually feel mad uncomfortable with a beard they

00:02:09.040 feel mad uncomfortable with the fact that they've got you know leg hair they've got they're uncomfortable

00:02:14.160 with their genitalia and they don't like it then it doesn't match them but then if they decide to

00:02:19.120 to to alter their outside or to start you know changing how they look and making themselves feel 0.58

00:02:25.440 pretty the way that they feel that they should then they can't go into a man's toilet safely i kind of

00:02:30.080 want to steal man pearl a little bit because i i want to say the majority of trans women don't think 1.00

00:02:35.840 they're cis women but there are some people that are delusional and do push it to a point so it's like

00:02:40.480 we can't just but i'm saying it's like it's like everything but i'm saying when when you're forcing

00:02:48.000 us to accept them as women and treat them as women then it's like you're forcing me to live in the

00:02:53.280 delusion when i can see you're clearly not so like when i'm forced to play with them now i have to

00:02:58.320 you know and i didn't even get a choice in this like now i have to succumb to their delusion

00:03:04.400 even in the locker room because i go into the locker room now i have to

00:03:08.560 now i have to pretend that they're supposed to be there now i have to go to the bathrooms and pretend

00:03:12.960 people have been pretending like trans people don't exist where i didn't say they don't they

00:03:17.440 they clearly exist but trans people have been a part of society for for like well since time again

00:03:22.800 but the issue the issue but the issue we get to is that if we don't if we don't give a hard line then

00:03:28.000 later there will be consequences and that's what you see with uh with the um the men going into female 1.00

00:03:33.840 prisons and they and they get raped there was a couple cases in california that just happened

00:03:37.520 in england we've already prepped for that so we have a transgender wing too but we have the same 0.99

00:03:43.760 problem we did have a transgender woman rape a woman because that was really stupid because she 1.00

00:03:49.440 wasn't like she wasn't post-op or anything was really dumb i i feel like there are some situations 0.99

00:03:55.520 but people just turn their brains off but my problem is like that's why i just think we make it simple 0.72

00:04:00.560 biological men biological women because when you start when you start getting into all these when 0.74

00:04:05.520 when you get into all these exceptions like then there are people that are faced consequences and

00:04:10.080 usually it's not you it's someone else yeah i do think the transgender wing was important because

00:04:14.320 it's obviously it's keeping trans women safe from men but it's also keeping you know cis women safe so i

00:04:21.360 think that was a good but that is an example of a compromise right we didn't just know the trans women 1.00

00:04:26.800 in with the men but i would i would i would but also like in society i would just keep it men women 0.99

00:04:33.040 there would be no trans you're a black and white thinker this if this makes your brain smooth i like 0.99

00:04:38.320 black and white thinking too so i i understand can i just say something it's not about thinking black

00:04:43.600 and white it's just you know how some people well i was raised to think that if i'm a woman i go into

00:04:49.360 the woman's bathroom i have brothers when they go toilet they go to the men's bathroom but at home you use the

00:04:54.880 the same toilet at home we use the same toilet because we are friends because we are family and

00:04:59.760 because we are friends because we are family and because we are friends what was the last thing you

00:05:03.440 said you go to a house party when you're meeting people that you don't know but you're still using

00:05:06.080 the same toilet right yes 100 you survived them proud of you yeah no but you don't but at a house

00:05:13.040 party i would go at a house party i would go with the girls and you talk in the bathroom i would not

00:05:19.200 bring a guy to do that and you know it's different like we go we go into it it is an experience you

00:05:25.840 know that you know i'm enjoying this because i'm not the most most woke person here i'm kind of in

00:05:31.200 the middle it's great it's great i enjoy it but um when it comes to some bathrooms specifically um i don't

00:05:39.280 want to disregard how anxious and scared women often feel in general like if you don't know somewhere

00:05:45.280 where you're going and you're out in public you're always kind of on edge and society kind of pushes

00:05:50.160 you to be this way because if you're not on edge and constantly have your guard up you're often

00:05:54.320 blamed for things that are bad that happen to you so you're either constantly anxious or constantly

00:06:00.640 not paying attention and then blamed for the bad things that happen to you and that's not trans 0.97

00:06:05.280 women's fault but it's something we should take into consideration just the experience of being a 1.00

00:06:10.320 cis woman again women both both women we are protected classes and whilst we have some similarities

00:06:16.560 we are also different we're like two circles that partly overlap but don't completely overlap and it's

00:06:21.280 important not to just completely discredit these differences

00:06:26.480 um okay so where do we land on bathrooms so you guys bathrooms i think it should be fine

00:06:31.680 fine fine i really just want to get it all right who says no i'm gonna i just want hands they have

00:06:37.760 to get their own unit okay half and half i mean own units is good like i just keep everything unisex put

00:06:43.520 a camera outside the cubicle everyone's gonna be like it's like a unisex cubicle you can just have

00:06:49.200 cubicle cubicle cubicle cubicle cubicle camera it's not that deep like i just don't understand why

00:06:53.040 it's that i don't want to see you know all these people they are not like i'm sorry i'm sorry you

00:06:58.240 can still have you in front of the mirror the mirror will still be there for you there will just be

00:07:02.640 a camera watching you have your chat doing your makeup so that everyone's safe when you walk in

00:07:07.280 no because then again it's like we have to make all these exceptions for like one percent of the

00:07:11.120 population everyone should like it so if it's only one percent of the population like i just think that

00:07:16.560 we're where these people um you know we are a what's the words uh when something's like a small

00:07:26.400 amount of you know i'm saying that it's such a small percentage i just don't see how like it's

00:07:31.760 it's gonna be an issue you know for these these type of people because it's not an issue till it

00:07:35.840 becomes an issue there's so there's such a small percentage you said just one percent like if there was

00:07:41.920 there's one percent of millionaires okay if there was yeah but that's different because you know

00:07:46.080 that's that's not a league that's not like a league that's just people's successes and stuff

00:07:49.600 but if you're trying to put people together in terms of like leagues of sports and things like that

00:07:55.520 it's going to be difficult with just one percent to form a whole league of just one gender of people

00:08:00.960 and the more we're speaking about it the more i'm starting to see that it wouldn't be a bad thing

00:08:06.720 you know it genuinely would not be a bad thing to have a separate but then there would need to be a more

00:08:12.400 uh neat like more more amounts of people like let's say for example female football female football

00:08:18.880 you know 30 years ago didn't really exist i i don't know how correct that is but i'm just kind

00:08:24.240 of giving an estimate but as time progresses it's getting more watch it's getting more appreciated more

00:08:29.920 people are going towards it but initially there wasn't enough women playing football for there to be 0.94

00:08:35.360 a league and i think with transgender people the more transgender people that come forward and say you

00:08:40.320 know what i'd like to pay play a sport and and face these type of difficulties of prejudice and

00:08:46.000 whether it's prejudice or just you know technical whatever it is i just think they can create this

00:08:50.160 league you know i think in life you know we've kind of said that we shouldn't be excluded from anything

00:08:55.360 and i think some things yeah people should be excluded from like for example i don't really think women

00:09:00.800 um like we don't play football i mean not not really it's not really it's like it's a very fringe right so we

00:09:07.120 we can but we can talk about like in the normal school the normal college you're not going to go

00:09:11.920 on and find a football team right and you know maybe there's special colleges that do that on occasion

00:09:17.840 when there's a high population of women that want to play but the rule is there's no football league 0.99

00:09:22.560 when it comes to sports i think it's rather than no but i'm saying the same thing with the bathrooms

00:09:26.960 like okay if there's a ton in one area fine but like demanding that there's bathrooms in all these

00:09:33.280 locations when we could just go by biological sex it's easier yeah but you don't okay so biological

00:09:38.720 sex you see someone walking into the women's toilet with a beard yeah you can't give them a little side 1.00

00:09:42.640 eye yeah it's gonna be crazy if i walk into the women's if you walk in through this toilet and you 1.00

00:09:47.120 see somebody walking behind you walking with a beard and a penis you can't give them side eye because 0.98

00:09:53.600 there will be but i mean if we're gonna be honest i'd rather neither i'd rather neither but you know but we 0.89

00:09:59.680 we gotta go to biology these people exist and i think biologically it wouldn't work that way

00:10:05.360 unless unless people continue to use the the bathrooms of the gender that they've that they 0.98

00:10:11.120 are claiming yeah or that they were assigned at birth or that they were assigned at birth

00:10:15.440 it's either that or like you say you know they they make a special bathroom for transgender people

00:10:21.280 because this idea of a transgender woman with a beard going into a woman's toilet or a transgender man 0.99

00:10:29.200 with breasts going into men's toilet is just absolutely crazy i mean it doesn't make any sense 0.99

00:10:34.080 i think it's crazier than someone with male parts going into a woman's bathroom i think that's way 1.00

00:10:40.640 crazier i would take someone with a beard over like females i would take a beard over a dick 1.00

00:10:48.640 but you don't know what that beard comes with yeah so if someone was assigned female at birth they've 1.00

00:10:52.880 transitioned to male yeah and you're saying that they need to go with their biological sex yeah 0.83

00:10:57.200 or their their gender assigned at birth yeah so they could have gone through every single process

00:11:04.480 to have bottom surgery have top surgery they've been through hormone therapy they've been on

00:11:08.720 hormones for like 10 years they look like a they look like a cisgender man but they've just followed 0.98

00:11:15.840 you into a women's toilet because you said that biological women should go into women's toilet women's 1.00

00:11:21.360 toilets already completely separate cubicles am i missing something like i've never seen a transgender 0.80

00:11:26.080 person's pp like ever but the whole point but the whole point i do think changing rooms is a bit

00:11:33.040 different but bathrooms is just like i mean yeah i just i don't i don't think we should be forced to

00:11:38.720 share a bathroom with man like that i'm just trying to figure out how you'd know like unless like someone

00:11:43.920 is obviously close to their trying is close to the beginning of their transition i mean we already have a

00:11:47.760 a lot of units i don't know i don't know how you would know i mean it's it's pretty i mean i'm not

00:11:54.240 even trying to be rude it's pretty it's pretty obvious like you can you can usually tell like

00:11:58.560 even in this room it was pretty easy for me to tell but does it really matter unless they do something

00:12:03.200 really bad does it matter like if you just see them coming in or out like as long as they're not

00:12:07.520 seeing anything bad you're forcing me to pretend that there's something that they're not and i don't

00:12:12.080 think that you can still think they're what they are you just yeah everyone's entitled right but

00:12:17.360 we're supposed to have the it's supposed to be women the women's locker room the women's bathroom 1.00

00:12:22.240 and so it's like when we have to be okay with them coming in again it's like you're asking me to accept

00:12:28.400 that there's something that they're not no i don't do you know what your opinion at that point would

00:12:33.920 have to be relevant to the person using the bathroom so like for example if a transgender person

00:12:38.800 came into the bathroom and had to put up with your negative prejudice yes then it's up to that

00:12:46.320 person if they give you air time if if they think that you're just some negative i'm actually like

00:12:53.040 a karen so i would go to the like manager and i would say hey there's a man in the bathroom and

00:12:58.480 they probably ask you to leave so who who would they probably ask you to well in this woke culture 0.99

00:13:04.080 yes but i'm trying to stop that look completely like a man or are they a transgender woman they're 0.58

00:13:09.200 trying the best see i get really confused all the words like the trans sis i just confuses me a bit

00:13:15.440 but if we're going to go to the men that become women i i would say it's very easy to tell like at

00:13:21.120 that tournament i could say that one that one that one i would say the other way around it's a little

00:13:25.600 harder but but it's still pretty easy to tell the trans women that you've met would all of them

00:13:31.840 bother you or some bother you more than others what are you all of them all of them bother you

00:13:37.280 about the same all of them i would not want in the bathroom with me yeah i feel like we should base

00:13:44.720 being sort of wary of people on when they actually do something bad no but again the policies again

00:13:52.400 the poll because the issue is if we let allow them in the bathrooms then what's next then it's the 0.98

00:13:58.160 prisons then it's the sports like it just never stops so i mean there's always something they're

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JustPearlyThings - June 26, 2023

Debate Got Heated on TRANSGENDER

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