JustPearlyThings - June 25, 2023


Trans Man Got TRIGGERED By This FACT


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In this episode, we discuss the controversial topic of transgenders in the sports locker room and the trans bathroom debate. We have a special guest on the show who has a very interesting perspective on the topic and we hope you enjoy it!

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00:00:00.000 Ancient Greece had trans people everywhere do you know what you know
00:00:11.280 Trans people people that don't conform to a single gender across the board 1.00
00:00:15.320 I mean I just I I'm you might be right but just because it's not necessarily
00:00:19.740 in societal terms or even like now like if you think even about being like
00:00:25.000 homosexual for example quite awkward like homosexuality pretty much got 1.00
00:00:28.680 eradicated from from society it was only seen underground because well for one
00:00:34.860 colonial laws made the homosexual homosexual behavior illegal but it took a 0.97
00:00:40.680 long long time for gay people to come out of the woodwork still is illegal some
00:00:44.700 places exactly you know there are some there are certain people like for
00:00:47.820 example there's like a whole pretty much a whole generation of like gay men that
00:00:52.560 just aren't talked about because that was before before it was legal when being gay
00:00:57.840 could still land you in jail
00:00:59.840 but what's your what's your what's your like trans people trying to people were
00:01:03.120 pretty much eradicated from the forefront of society but it doesn't mean they
00:01:06.720 weren't there it means that you may not have seen them they may not have been
00:01:10.140 discussed it doesn't mean they were we can't prove they were common either we
00:01:14.760 can't really prove a lot of exceptions exceptions but it's not really the only
00:01:19.920 difference is we used to call them transsexuals rather than transgender but
00:01:23.020 that like the rookie horror show or they were just they were just that one yeah
00:01:27.340 no one really spoke about they were just a part of society it's older than all of us in
00:01:31.420 the room so we should take that into consideration but like by across the
00:01:34.700 board this is a new thing okay like it's of the last hundred years
00:01:38.020 it's been there since we were alive Adam and Eve it was there I guess so when did it come
00:01:43.020 it's new in a sense where it's be getting more exposure you know it's more talked
00:01:47.020 about more people are doing it you know and and in that regard but I think that's
00:01:50.620 necessary you know I think people need to be more aware of these things I think
00:01:54.640 the movement that black people had the movement that women had the movement that
00:01:58.360 gay people had the movement that you know I want to take it back you don't want to 1.00
00:02:04.480 work well you know I mean I just want you to be able to advocate for what you
00:02:09.960 believe in but actually get somewhere if you don't start to adopt at least some of
00:02:13.960 the language you're not gonna get anywhere they're not gonna listen I just think like
00:02:17.320 why should I be forced to learn this what do you want to win do you want to get
00:02:21.580 somewhere do you just want to insult people because you can't do I I don't
00:02:25.300 think it's insulting to say that I don't well again I feel like a lot of things
00:02:29.740 are insulting that's what women do we feel like everything's insulting so it's 1.00
00:02:33.640 like you know we can't base facts off of our feelings yeah but do you want to
00:02:38.860 win or do you just want when I'm just like these are my options okay I could
00:02:45.120 I could say it nicely they're still gonna do the same thing or I have to live
00:02:49.540 with their delusion I have to use their language I have to I have to have them 1.00
00:02:54.120 in my bathrooms and I have to play with them and it's really delusional to call
00:02:57.280 them trans women they're still not sis I would say if we're having them if we're 1.00
00:03:02.560 having if we're pretending that there's something that they're not which I would
00:03:06.000 say it is women I would say I would say I would say a trans a trend a dude that
00:03:12.060 transitioned to a woman sorry I would say even though they got the surgery even 0.99
00:03:16.860 though they're dressing like it they're still not women no but but when you're 0.84
00:03:21.360 trying when you put them in our bathrooms it's like now I have to pretend and
00:03:24.960 act like it's normal but you don't have to pretend I don't have the same as us
00:03:28.500 because this is what I would do if if a man walked into my locker room I would go
00:03:34.240 get the manager and say get him out but I can't do that now why do you want to I
00:03:38.740 can't that's who I am I've been I've been tattling on on parties you know so my
00:03:46.180 neighbor throws a party I'm calling you know what I mean that's I'm not the 1.00
00:03:50.760 foods bad I'll get the I do it but so now I have to do a different behavior based
00:03:56.480 on them based on how they're dressed we don't have to but I'm just saying it's
00:04:01.880 cool I'm like do you want to actually have success and get somewhere then
00:04:06.080 that's what I would do but you don't have to do that I'm just saying do you
00:04:10.100 want to actually make change and say hey it's not cool for transgender women to be 1.00
00:04:14.240 in team sports where there's they have advantage for X Y and Z like if you want 0.83
00:04:20.060 to get somewhere you kind of have to adapt at least a little no there's no
00:04:23.360 winning
00:04:24.680 you don't argument sounds like your argument sounds like blackmail yeah no
00:04:32.060 it does it does it does sound like blackmail what you're saying yeah what
00:04:39.060 you're saying is that we have to in order to be okay with trans trans women and
00:04:46.680 trans men we have to change our language we have to like no you don't have to be 1.00
00:04:51.960 okay and you don't have to change your language I'm saying if you want to
00:04:54.900 communicate with other people that have this the way that they are we'd like to
00:05:00.620 be fair even I think like calling a trans woman a man is trans if you want change 0.99
00:05:08.100 use my language if you want if you want us to do what you want you have to use my
00:05:12.360 language we're being forced okay so what is being transphobic right is this is a
00:05:17.340 similar as being I don't know racist you are using inappropriate language it's a
00:05:22.360 type of prejudice and you can't just kind of ignore this as you're trying to
00:05:27.780 engage with other people on the other side
00:05:31.640 progress but the thing is I don't care what you do do it do what you want but
00:05:35.240 again it's when you force your opinions on me but the thing is that's my problem I
00:05:39.780 think you have a good argument like I do think within team sports for women for
00:05:45.360 cis women biological women whatever there are some like advantages trans
00:05:51.420 women would have which probably makes it unfair so for me the sad part is that I
00:05:57.180 feel like you're approaching the argument wrong because I think you have a good
00:06:00.660 point but it's lost in the language and it's disregarded because people just write
00:06:04.980 you off as being transphobic yeah I mean you can feel that way but at the end of the
00:06:09.360 day like it's it's really how I feel I'm like trying to give you advice it's very
00:06:15.840 funny how her argument is very one-sided because she says we just cause the
00:06:21.660 transgender people don't like what we say they disregard it she's saying we 0.99
00:06:25.360 shouldn't disregard what you're saying you're saying we shouldn't disregard what
00:06:33.040 the transgender people are saying to make them feel comfortable but they should
00:06:36.860 disregard what we are saying just so they can feel comfortable so it's a very one
00:06:41.020 side it does happen the other way around like we and we you're already calling
00:06:46.340 them delusional XYZ like you do disagree I call women delusional to be fair all human 0.99
00:06:53.040 beings on the planet are delusional in one way or another if you do not accept that
00:06:56.480 then you are the problem usually you're delusional can you can you look at it from
00:07:02.880 my point of view I'm a young person right and growing up there wasn't anything to
00:07:08.100 do with trans like it's a very new thing it's very very new to understand how 1.00
00:07:12.800 trans people are like have become if that makes sense so it is very hard for 1.00
00:07:19.000 someone like me to now track like change my language and say they and them I
00:07:23.960 don't think you have to be perfect I think if you have a good intention it
00:07:27.320 doesn't matter too much would you would you guys think about people that are
00:07:30.960 religious that you know they've been raised and their religion obviously goes
00:07:35.180 back for a very long time and a lot of people still I'm so I'm Muslim I don't
00:07:40.220 think I could ever be comfortable with accepting new terms for you know like I
00:07:45.600 just I just don't think I'd ever do it I don't think I you know I think it's fine
00:07:49.980 if you don't want to accept things but also you're not really gonna be able to
00:07:53.520 engage in arguments if you're not the point of arguments and debate is you're
00:07:57.240 trying to meet someone in the middle so that you can have a conducive you can't
00:08:00.420 engage in an argument unless you engage it in the way that I think is right
00:08:04.060 it's basically what you need to meet people in the middle yeah but why don't they
00:08:10.020 meet her in the middle probably would meet you in the middle and not not not not if
00:08:14.780 they don't if not not unless she's forced to use language that she's not
00:08:18.200 comfortable using but she just said there's religious do you think there's
00:08:21.620 any difference between okay but we could talk about religion but that would be a
00:08:24.860 whole other subject like any difference at all like can we not just use it
00:08:29.560 because it's confusing af if we don't say transgender women and so I think it's I
00:08:34.400 think it's more confusing when you add it all but it's not like men men are
00:08:39.540 trying to compete with women in sports or men men are trying to like turn off in our
00:08:43.180 bathrooms and stuff it's there has to be a differentiation all the composition is
00:08:47.440 fucking good no no I say the men that like they're trying to be women that's
00:08:51.160 how I would say it well they are trying to be women or transitioning I would say I 0.83
00:08:58.000 would say trying because you you can't do it yeah transitioning they can't carry 1.00
00:09:07.240 children okay so some biological women have problems doing that yeah and I like 1.00
00:09:14.620 like I said earlier that doesn't make them any less of a woman yeah some men 0.98
00:09:18.580 cannot impregnate their sperm for whatever reason has this but the
00:09:22.420 difference is trans people can never do it that's never that's fine that's fine 1.00
00:09:26.380 how many people how many heterosexual people have had children transgender women
00:09:31.240 how many how many I'm pretty sure every single transition I'm pretty sure every single
00:09:39.100 transgender person on the planet was born from a heterosexual man and woman just because 0.65
00:09:45.060 someone is born man and born a woman it doesn't give them the right to be parents 1.00
00:09:48.760 do you know how much effed up stuff happens because of men and women having kids do you 0.63
00:09:54.040 know how much so much stuff happens like I haven't seen one case so far where there's
00:09:59.720 been a lgbt couple that's had a child and they've become a mass murderer I'm in schools all of 1.00
00:10:06.740 the stuff that you all of the crazy stuff that happens in the world I'm not born I'm not from
00:10:11.240 I don't understand like what all the issue is with you know transgender people when there's a 1.00
00:10:18.440 lot of crazy stuff that goes on in the world that's not from transgender or lgbt the lgbt 1.00
00:10:23.900 community are so peaceful it's crazy but I've told you but I've told you my issue my issue is that again they're forcing us to live in their delusion
00:10:30.920 but it's their peaceful community the lgbt community is a very peaceful okay so if they want to do their thing in their
00:10:37.940 community fine I don't care at all but the issue is when you got men coming into my
00:10:46.920 bathrooms men coming into my sports men coming into women's spaces and forcing me to pretend that 0.95
00:10:52.900 they're women that's where I have an issue but that's your prejudice and that's the 1.00
00:10:55.940 prejudice you you have to go through that yourself that's something that you're gonna have to come
00:11:02.320 through I don't know if there's been people that have felt the same way about people of different
00:11:06.560 races you know you know people that have different disabilities it's not race it's to do with it's
00:11:12.640 literally to do with the transition of a man to woman I think they would feel the same way if I said I am now
00:11:19.260 black and now I would like all of I would like to be the head of the black student union I would like
00:11:25.460 to be the head of all these things yeah and they would have to pretend that I'm black I guess I think
00:11:29.660 and I think that that's the only equivalent yeah that's the only real equivalent that's right and you
00:11:34.240 know what maybe in 50 years time we'll see what science does if they make a way for that to
00:11:40.580 happen we can have another conversation but right now this is the conversation and the only reason
00:11:45.200 why I'm bringing it up I just want to point out sex doesn't or it already doesn't exist on a binary
00:11:49.560 there are intersex people there are people that have genetic differences that does fall out of xx and
00:11:54.200 xy so it's there is already reasons for why we see things a little bit differently whereas with black 0.99
00:12:00.840 and white it's just like it doesn't make any sense race and sex is not the same if you look on a DNA level
00:12:06.300 those classes of people are classed as abnormal it's an anomaly it's not natural it's not like a normal
00:12:12.700 thing that happens that's the point do you know what genetic differences always used to lead to in
00:12:19.660 the past it was called evolution the point is by natural selection there are people that have existed
00:12:35.980 that were not that did not fit into the normal binary system and things like that have been like
00:12:43.120 natural selection takes care of things like that naturally but human beings because of technology
00:12:48.340 because of all these advancements we're not trying to enforce these things that if we were to leave it to
00:12:53.860 actual nature it would actually phase out hermaphrodites as they were called and we now call them 0.96
00:13:00.020 differently have existed since the dawn of time yes they haven't been eradicated no but the point is
00:13:05.060 the point is the Adam and Eve when the point is if you have to blame Adam and Eve genetically if you have to leave everything to nature and take science out of it and leave
00:13:14.260 everything to nature how we're designed for one eventually at a long enough time span gay people 0.56
00:13:22.980 can't reproduce um transsexuals or whatever would eventually die out if you have to leave everything 1.00
00:13:28.340 to nature and human beings weren't going to tampon you're talking about how many species are there
00:13:32.900 how many species are there on this planet where an individual specimen can change its gender that
00:13:40.020 happens in nature yeah but those are by design human beings are not designed to do that that's fine
00:13:45.380 everyone can't change their nature through their mind yeah yeah in my opinion yeah
00:13:51.700 the whole point of human human becoming pregnant by herself now this is a very rare occurrence okay but
00:13:59.620 the thing with genetics is things are weird and we we do wait there is a woman that got pregnant by
00:14:06.500 herself wait were you guys following her making sure that she didn't go and inseminate herself that's 1.00
00:14:10.980 this is the thing like this story weirdness is a thing that happens just as how twins can like eat
00:14:17.780 eat each other and then they have
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