Plus Sized Man Gets Offended After Learning This Fact
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the controversial topic of obesity and body positivity. We discuss whether or not Lizzo is actually leading with her weight, or is she just a fat person who's on stage? Is she a body positive body positive person who leads with her body? And does she lead with her sexuality?
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comfortable to get the less your checking numbers as well and i feel like people who are comfortable
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in their obesity don't check it don't even check and the one thing i don't like is like
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they'll say it's like unhealthy to weigh yourself every day when i lost weight by weighing myself
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every day and i don't think that's like they did studies and they found that the people
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they didn't give them a diet or anything but the people that would just weighed themselves
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every single day lost the most weight yeah it's just a journey like for me is honestly a journey
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and that's why i just promote you know because i know confidence is such a big thing that's why i
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promote like body positivity and it's not about obesity it's just about literally i think i think
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it does become about obesity when it's like we're putting on well it's like okay if an only fans
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model puts on a thong and puts that on and says i'm not promoting sexuality well you kind of are
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and so if you're oh if you're overweight and you're and you're putting your body out there it's like
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you are promoting sugar puff i'm gonna pause you there so um in the kindest way so if someone is
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big are you saying that they then do not deserve to be heard or seen because they are big no i didn't
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say that no so but are they leading with their weight so i would say you i would say if you're
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leading with your body then yes you are leading with your weight and how does someone so let's take
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lizzo for example because she's like right in the center of this topic isn't she that is the example
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we like to do yeah we love a little bit yeah so so lizzo is a great music though great music decent music
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i've never heard one of her songs because her music doesn't appeal to me but i know that she's
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right in the center right body positivity her music not withstanding so let's take lizzo for example a lot
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of people slate her because she apparently leads with her weight she wears revealing clothing and
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i've seen on the other end of that argument you've got people who compare her to say rihanna or beyonce
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they wear similar clothing but their shape is very different i would argue that lizzo a is actually
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potentially quite fit because she performs for long periods of time which she maybe not fit maybe
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fit is the wrong word i haven't finished talking one second so i would say that a she maybe has a
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lot of stamina because she performs for a long period of time i think she plays the flute sometimes when
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she performs and she dances and she sings that's a lot to do in let's say 90 minutes all at the same
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times a lot going on there so i applaud her stamina and also i could never be a walmart lizzo at all and so
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i would say that with lizzo being at the center of the body positive body positivity discussion
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we should probably look at her stamina a b we should say that is she leading with her weight
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or does she just exist as a fat person who's on stage because i would say i would say adele did not
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lead with her weight nobody really commented on adele's weight weight on adele's weight because she did
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not lead with that she led with her talent if you looked at her instagram it was her in long beautiful
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dresses singing no one really talked about it until she lost weight on the other hand lizzo if
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you look at her instagram it damn near looks like corn like it's her in thong bikini she wore a thong
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thing to to a basketball game with kids at it yeah in the name of body positivity sometimes that's what
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we mean okay kelly clarkson right i think people people may have commented on it because she didn't gain
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a lot of weight people will comment but it's not the main topic of discussion kelly clarkson clarkson
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because she leads with her talent so you think lizzo dressing the way she dresses yes let's say on
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stage i don't agree with the same way i would say an only fans model leads with her sexuality like a
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a girl that's on only fans and her her instagram looks like a corn hub basically she is leading with
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her sexuality how would you have lizzo dress to not lead with her body um and that's an open question i i
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would say the the thong thingies it's like a i would say the all i would say basically change
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your whole wardrobe look at i don't know what adele used to wear if you look at any girl at a
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festival nowadays very revealing clothing yeah so that's that's probably the trend but when lizzo's
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doing it it's getting publicized it's everywhere it's been pushed by media and then on top of that
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she's proclaiming that she's happy at that weight as well so she's also leading with that she's
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responding to criticism why is she getting criticism because the majority of people don't
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find that attractive and you guys and you guys can't a lot of people can't do anything about that
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to the average individual they don't find fat people attractive to you maybe not i'm telling you
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as a big person myself i'm not gonna go like i get a lot of attention yeah and i know a lot of big
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women that get attention you're talking about a niche no no no no not niche not niche i don't know
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where you got you probably grew up with the skinny skinny people but there's a mix there's literally
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been a mixture um for real that's how it's been i mean there's always going to be a market for it
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i mean there's categories for it sugar puff but i'm saying that the majority of people don't find it
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attractive that's why they get criticism and you can say it's whether they're leading with their body
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or not but then the day it's just she's in the public light she's a she's a i think it's three i
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gotta find it but it's like three out of five guys will eliminate you based on your weight alone
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and they'd eliminate you based on other things as well which is completely concerned about it like
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a lot of guys would eliminate me because i'm black or because i'm maybe not tall enough or too short
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like you know it is what it is yeah but it's not being fat phobic that's just being who said fat phobic
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no as in if you like if it's just preference like what you're saying that's what i was about to say
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couldn't you argue that the best dating advice for women is to lose weight i would say that i have never
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struggled regardless of my weight like i've been thin and i've been fat and i have never ever like
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this is the biggest like it's not the biggest because i've lost a stone but it's almost the
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biggest i've ever been and i've never struggled in life i've always been called pretty i've always
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got jobs that like are around what i look like i've done well online which a lot of people would argue
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you have to be pretty to do um and i've i've never been described i can get into the mayfair clubs i can
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do everything that i've ever wanted to do and i've never felt like i could i mean you have youth on your
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side you're you're 26 right and and why don't you argue you told me a different show that you got
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more attention when you were thinner you still get attention now yeah but i've never struggled i mean
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the attention is a burden a lot of the time for most women a burden no no women compete for attention
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no i mean for me women will get bbls they will get surgery just to get attention one of my big goals
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is like so my audience has split 50 50 male female on all of my platforms okay my biggest goal is to go to
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more women and so for at the moment i'm trying to build on facebook and when i target my ads i
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target them at women i tell girly stories i tell gossipy things i aim my twitch is like
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girly sleepover vibes like i don't want men because i don't like that attention i have a boyfriend i have
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a good life i don't need men like well i mean again this isn't but i'm not talking about you personally
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but i think when we have women getting extreme surgeries just to get attention from men i think i think
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we could say that women do want attention i would just i would just have you seen the bbls have you
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seen them on the play oh come on i've worked as an actor i've seen a lot of boob jobs i've seen a lot
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of bbls i've seen it in modeling but like what i would say is like as a plus-size person i never felt
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like discriminated against i've never felt ugly because i was fat i've never been told i was ugly
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because i was fat other than like occasionally in pearls chat but you know what i mean like i just
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i've never suffered for that and so i would never give someone that dating advice because it's never
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held me back personally that's you personally is the key there isn't it you personally it hasn't held
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you back but then i guess if we did a survey of of fat people fat women probably if we're being
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truthful being fat has held them back at points whether they know it or not right yeah i have a
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question do you feel that i don't i've never really actively dated so i can't really say and
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also as i like to my own point it has probably held me back without my knowledge okay there's the
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scene and then there's the unseen right and you know there will be what some people impulse chat
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would call the liberals they would say that i have a question on your side like there's there's the
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intersectionality part of it that will go like well maybe you haven't been declined jobs because
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you are desirable in the market for other reasons like size aside as much as as much as you're
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comfortable in your skin if you were to step on a scale and see some alarming numbers would you
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change your lifestyle or would you continue living the same lifestyle that you're living right now i'm
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doing it i make it yeah i eat healthy and and i am very active i dance like you see on my social media
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i'm not actually trying to promote your lifestyle i am trying to change my lifestyle by keeping it going and
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actually going through the struggles and literally keeping it going you are talking to three fat
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people that none of us here are sitting here being like everyone should be our way and it's good for
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us we're actively saying like yeah we need to lose weight we need to sort out you know like but it's
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difficult i commend you for trying to lose weight and good on you good luck on the journey right but
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can i just say it just depends who you guys are deflecting the blame on not just to you guys
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personally but the fat in general it's not are you blaming other people for calling you guys out or
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do you want to take some personal responsibility and say hey