JustPearlyThings - July 07, 2025


Don't Wait Until Marriage (Call-In Show) ｜ Pearl Daily


Episode Stats

Length

21 minutes

Words per Minute

177.74553

Word Count

3,879

Sentence Count

337

Misogynist Sentences

46

Hate Speech Sentences

45


Summary

A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage and why it s bad for men to get married. Hannah Pearl Davis is one of the most controversial faces in all of the internet. She says that marriage is a terrible deal for men because if you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Being asked the following question, do we need men?
00:00:04.640 Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
00:00:10.460 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
00:00:13.400 Most young men are single, most young women are not.
00:00:16.380 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
00:00:21.040 It's a different world now, like we don't need men the way that they used to.
00:00:24.080 Nobody needs men!
00:00:25.320 The future is female.
00:00:26.900 Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
00:00:34.940 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
00:00:38.200 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
00:00:40.900 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
00:00:44.440 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
00:00:48.520 Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.
00:00:51.140 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
00:00:54.100 Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
00:00:59.100 Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.
00:01:02.760 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
00:01:06.400 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
00:01:09.240 Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
00:01:14.440 Gee, what could go wrong there?
00:01:15.700 Seventy-four percent or something of divorces are initiated by women.
00:01:20.160 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
00:01:23.040 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
00:01:25.720 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
00:01:30.660 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
00:01:33.880 You need no evidence.
00:01:34.720 When you guys say, get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.
00:01:38.740 And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
00:01:42.060 I interviewed them on the other side.
00:01:44.600 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
00:01:47.040 How much did you spend trying to get him back?
00:01:49.080 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.
00:01:51.420 Before you know it, you're homeless.
00:01:52.860 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
00:01:54.760 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
00:01:57.180 Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
00:02:01.420 Family is the foundation of society.
00:02:03.040 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
00:02:06.360 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
00:02:10.660 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
00:02:12.600 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
00:02:14.420 We tell them to put off family into marriage.
00:02:16.220 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
00:02:18.940 You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
00:02:23.360 Oh, freeze your eggs! Have an abortion!
00:02:25.180 What? You're evil!
00:02:26.400 I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
00:02:30.140 If you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
00:02:37.120 It's self-sabotage.
00:02:38.040 That's the thing.
00:02:38.640 Women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
00:02:41.840 This is not about happiness.
00:02:43.600 The most important thing is the children.
00:02:45.960 And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.
00:02:53.520 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?
00:02:58.340 They think, well, men have all the rights.
00:02:59.840 They have all the power.
00:03:01.160 Privileged patriarchal system that we have.
00:03:03.420 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
00:03:06.020 I have no friends.
00:03:07.340 No way.
00:03:08.080 And no social life.
00:03:09.260 Men are alone in this situation.
00:03:11.180 Men are homeless.
00:03:12.140 Men are thinking about eating guns.
00:03:13.500 I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.
00:03:18.300 How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
00:03:23.700 The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
00:03:27.540 Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
00:03:30.220 The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose to alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
00:03:37.340 Culture is telling men, you are no good.
00:03:39.160 You've got to get your act together.
00:03:40.380 I think men have failed themselves.
00:03:41.780 What kind of a man are you?
00:03:42.980 What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
00:03:45.340 If men are in trouble, so are women.
00:03:47.900 Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
00:03:51.560 Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man to get...
00:03:53.760 500K.
00:03:54.560 500K.
00:03:55.000 300K.
00:03:55.480 300K.
00:03:55.940 200K.
00:03:56.360 Am I crazy?
00:03:57.080 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
00:03:59.320 If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
00:04:02.860 So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
00:04:06.720 Women.
00:04:08.180 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
00:04:10.240 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
00:04:12.500 I'm over it.
00:04:13.620 When is it going to be my turn?
00:04:15.020 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?
00:04:16.820 I can't keep having these same conversations.
00:04:19.220 The only simp here is you, Pearl.
00:04:20.820 You simp for men.
00:04:21.380 No, I think you simp for women.
00:04:22.820 She's a provocateur.
00:04:23.780 She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
00:04:26.180 It's already happening.
00:04:27.220 It's just not out in the open yet.
00:04:28.900 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairytale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
00:04:34.420 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
00:04:38.800 We're going into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
00:04:42.740 Civilization will crumble.
00:04:44.640 The American story does not end well.
00:04:47.160 This is an existential crisis failing young men.
00:04:50.100 What is going on, people?
00:04:58.500 Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily.
00:05:01.700 Thank you guys all for tuning in.
00:05:03.560 As you guys know, we are, well, we are formally demonetized on this channel.
00:05:08.620 I worked for a year and a half for free, and that really put a wrench in this divorce documentary.
00:05:13.820 So we're trying to raise 100K for it.
00:05:15.920 I do have a million on the GoFundMe because, you know, shooters are going to shoot.
00:05:19.860 But we are trying to raise 100K, and we are currently on $31,000, $767.
00:05:28.220 So people do not want this documentary to come out.
00:05:31.280 They have kicked me off of seven TikTok accounts, three Instagram, and demonetized me on YouTube,
00:05:37.720 all because I talk about men's issues.
00:05:40.900 So if you want, donate.
00:05:42.360 The link's in the description.
00:05:43.500 Okay.
00:05:43.760 So today we're talking about waiting until marriage.
00:05:49.080 According to statistics, only 5% of women are virgins on their wedding nights.
00:05:54.660 And by the way, guys, of those 5%, they don't say what percent of the virgins are morbidly obese.
00:06:00.340 All right?
00:06:01.400 If you're a virgin, wait, Doug MPA, do we have the your virginity doesn't count video on the website?
00:06:09.240 If we do, can you text me it?
00:06:11.640 Because that was a great video I made.
00:06:13.560 You know, because really, your virginity doesn't count if you're ugly or fat, because you're really not bringing the value.
00:06:19.960 You know, purity only counts if you're hot.
00:06:22.320 You know, like, are you guys really is this like if a woman's 60 and a virgin, do you care?
00:06:28.340 Or no, you want the ran through 20-year-old, all right?
00:06:34.100 So that's down from 21% in the 1970s.
00:06:37.900 So even in the 70s, this was not the majority.
00:06:40.920 Tradcons are still trying to push the concept of waiting until you are married to have sex.
00:06:46.640 But in 2025, that's unrealistic.
00:06:48.380 And I would go as so far as to say it's dumb.
00:06:51.600 It might be idealistic, but there's a difference between idealistic and realistic.
00:06:56.640 Men and women are having sex.
00:06:58.340 It's the undeniable reality.
00:06:59.720 As a man, if you are waiting until sex to have married to as a man, if you are waiting to have sex until you're married, the longer you wait, the more likely it is that you are going to lose your virginity to a woman that's already been dug out by Tyrone Chad.
00:07:17.160 Say it in the chat.
00:07:18.520 Glock Tavius, Gavin the Starving Musician, Tyrone.
00:07:24.340 The more likely you're going to be weird when it comes to women, too.
00:07:29.360 That's the other issue.
00:07:30.180 You wait too long.
00:07:31.320 Now you have zero flirting skills.
00:07:34.740 Women are only messing with the charming men now or the jacked ones, unfortunately.
00:07:41.540 It's only the ones that give us the tingle.
00:07:43.460 So the longer you hold out on entering the real dating marketplace like a normal person, the more weird men and women will be.
00:07:51.940 Now, I don't say that you have to sleep with everybody, but unfortunately, and I don't say this with like a happy tone, I don't think it's working in 2025.
00:08:01.200 I do not see it.
00:08:02.960 I do not see the people waiting till marriage winning.
00:08:07.300 And this is something I always thought, to be honest, I thought the key was just people should have waited till they're married.
00:08:13.000 But the challenge I got to, I'm going to riff a little bit.
00:08:18.680 The challenge I got to was that if waiting till marriage produced these happy marriages in the past, why were women so willing to opt out the first chance they could?
00:08:29.580 And it goes back to women biologically do not want to be saddled down with a beta.
00:08:36.000 And if they view the person that they're with as a beta, it doesn't matter if it was 100 years ago, they don't want to do it.
00:08:45.080 All right.
00:08:45.400 So waiting means the man is kind of cucked because basically you get to pay a higher price for something that Chad, Tyrone and Gloctavius got for free.
00:08:55.640 Um, the other, the reason it kind of screws women is, you know, there's, I've never seen a pastor give an honest presentation on how long a guy is going to wait is based on how hot you are, ladies.
00:09:13.820 It really is.
00:09:14.760 Men are going to wait for marriage.
00:09:16.420 Like if you're, cause again, women, we like don't see average men.
00:09:19.840 We don't.
00:09:20.900 And I don't say this, like, that's the way it should be.
00:09:23.600 Right.
00:09:24.040 Um, and you could tell a woman to date on her level, but can we just be real here?
00:09:28.540 Women aren't going to do that.
00:09:29.560 So I'm not, it's like, I'm not going to say, have this miracle happen and expect it to happen.
00:09:36.260 So if women always go for chads, chads are not going to wait, especially not for a mid, uh, they might wait for someone that's beautiful, but you know, if you're a mid, uh, you know, I'd really say gluck glucks got to be a selling point.
00:09:50.220 Um, the longer you wait, the weirder you're going to be and nothing as worse than a man or a woman who's really weird in dating.
00:09:59.680 Now I hear the guys say, I don't mind a weird woman, but I don't actually, I'm thinking a Lolo Jones.
00:10:06.920 She was so weird.
00:10:08.080 That's who I'm thinking.
00:10:09.700 She was beautiful back in the day.
00:10:11.140 But if you listen to her interviews, it's not cute.
00:10:13.540 It's not like weird in a cute way.
00:10:16.160 All right.
00:10:17.000 Um, so if you're a woman, the longer you wait, the more it shows that you're socially awkward and that there's something wrong with you emotionally or mentally.
00:10:25.520 Now you might be saying, Pearl, she, you should be pushing for women to stay virgins, but when marriage is at 30 now, have you ever met a woman that's 30 and a virgin?
00:10:38.880 There are so many red flags about these types of women.
00:10:42.560 I'm not talking about a 20 year old virgin, but people are not getting married at 20.
00:10:46.720 They're getting married at 30.
00:10:48.760 And if you can get married, um, when you are young, then waiting, isn't a problem.
00:10:54.140 But staying single through your twenties and not having sex, stupid idea.
00:10:59.900 Um, and that's what we're going to talk about on today's show.
00:11:02.400 Should men and women wait to have sex until they're married?
00:11:05.160 This is going to be a call in show.
00:11:08.560 Um, but we're going to react to some tick tocks and then we're going to have people call in.
00:11:14.540 I'm debating, I've seen, there's a video of Charlie Kirk.
00:11:17.920 I just found of him super simping.
00:11:19.660 I kind of wanted to react to, but I want to show the typical dynamic that we really,
00:11:24.140 find with these guys.
00:11:26.640 Um, okay.
00:11:28.440 Let's do the tick tocks first.
00:11:32.480 Oh, I'm going to ask.
00:11:33.900 So think about these questions.
00:11:38.680 Um, should men and women wait to have, or I don't want to say should, because you guys
00:11:44.880 can do what you want, but would you recommend that men and women wait to have sex until they're
00:11:50.880 married?
00:11:52.480 Um, okay.
00:11:53.440 I'm going to, we're going to watch some tick tocks.
00:12:00.980 All right.
00:12:01.240 So this is of a girl that did it.
00:12:10.200 Oh, the internet.
00:12:11.940 This is something I have never talked about publicly planning on it, but I felt like recently
00:12:17.440 that I should, so here we go.
00:12:19.500 I am someone who waited till marriage for you scroll.
00:12:22.400 I'm not going to, and by the way, half the girls that waited till marriage back door and
00:12:27.300 gluck gluck.
00:12:27.940 That's how they get around it.
00:12:29.660 I'm not going to condemn.
00:12:30.620 This is about me.
00:12:31.700 I think the reason why I didn't talk about it is because I feel like the people who do
00:12:35.720 talk about this online, one are super weird about it, two are super crittin, three will
00:12:40.900 condemn people about it or be like, this is the way you need to do it.
00:12:43.740 And I'm not doing any of those things.
00:12:45.420 So you do you, I'm just telling you my experience.
00:12:47.480 The main reason why I did this was honestly for my faith.
00:12:50.540 And so I know guys, I hear you guys saying, but STD is in the chat.
00:12:55.660 All right, you can get an STD if you're married.
00:13:00.760 We're going to do an STD show on Friday to give you guys an in-depth, like what your risks
00:13:07.200 are basically.
00:13:09.340 But one of the guys I interviewed that has herpes, he got it from his fucking wife.
00:13:14.980 Like he got it in marriage.
00:13:16.920 You know, you don't know what people are doing.
00:13:18.860 Decision pretty early on in my life that I was going to wait.
00:13:21.440 The reason on top of this is I don't love hookup culture.
00:13:24.160 I think the whole thing is very toxic for me.
00:13:26.720 Like I want to bring back like the chivalrous age.
00:13:29.400 We don't want to go back too far because like, you know, I like the right to vote.
00:13:31.960 I do think that there's a lot of benefits to waiting.
00:13:35.140 Completely disagree with you have to test drive the car before you buy it.
00:13:38.520 Like I think that's completely false.
00:13:40.440 Can you imagine you do the whole waiting, you dedicate the rest of your life to this woman.
00:13:48.080 And then she says, God says, I can't gluck gluck.
00:13:50.820 That happens to guys.
00:13:51.800 I know, and I'm going to tell you guys anecdotal stories.
00:13:55.360 There's a guy new in England.
00:13:56.300 He waited till he was married and he was from a really religious background.
00:14:01.920 And she just had a really low, she either had a low sex drive or a low sex drive for him.
00:14:07.360 Now you have to remember guys, the number one consumers of OnlyFans are white Christian men.
00:14:12.060 So to me, that's saying that this whole waiting thing isn't really working how we thought.
00:14:21.240 So.
00:14:22.180 Love, which is what marriage is all about.
00:14:24.040 Our culture, we've gotten lost in the sauce.
00:14:26.560 No pun intended about what marriage is for and what specifically is meant for.
00:14:31.900 I made a decision that I was going to do that for marriage as well as not live with my partner.
00:14:36.020 I've just seen it end so badly with so many people.
00:14:38.720 I think it makes things messy.
00:14:39.660 And they say, you don't need to test drive before you buy it.
00:14:44.900 And I'm like, who wouldn't test drive a car?
00:14:50.600 Like, and this isn't just a car.
00:14:52.740 This is like a car that can literally kill you.
00:14:56.000 Like, this is a car that can fuck you for life.
00:15:01.000 And this is a car that's supposed to, like the amount, think about this.
00:15:04.760 This is a car that's supposed to provide a service and the service is, you know, fucking.
00:15:10.600 And the car salesman is like, do you know what?
00:15:15.020 You got to prove you really want this car before you buy it.
00:15:21.180 Yeah.
00:15:21.680 I mean, yeah, this car has had other drivers, but we can't let you test drive.
00:15:25.520 Now, you might want to do that, but that's, it's kind of dumb.
00:15:31.560 It's kind of, it's kind of dumb.
00:15:32.760 Now, by the way, maybe waiting for marriage would work if these women were waiting.
00:15:57.580 But women are not, mm-mm, they're just effing.
00:16:01.300 Until marriage would have been a distraction, I wouldn't have ended up with the right person.
00:16:05.120 Thank God I did.
00:16:06.080 I think sometimes...
00:16:06.860 Pearl, ultimately what you're saying is the personality and the internal of the woman is more important than her character.
00:16:12.880 Well, what good is her, her, okay, what good is the woman's personality if she's not hot and wanting to get down and not wanting to throw it back?
00:16:22.420 Like, what, if she could be a good person, but if she doesn't throw it back, what good is she to you?
00:16:31.680 That's why, you know, it's interesting because I keep hearing about this bloodline thing.
00:16:36.200 And I was thinking, women almost choose betas to give, to like, give their bloodline or whatever out of necessity.
00:16:45.360 I don't think it's like the flex a lot of these trad cons make it out to be.
00:16:49.460 This is misconception.
00:16:50.060 The flex is banging a girl in 30 minutes after meeting her.
00:16:53.640 That's flex.
00:16:54.460 I've seen the PUAs do that.
00:16:57.420 Oh, my God.
00:16:58.220 The PUA I had on my show a few weeks ago.
00:17:01.160 I was at a thing in Vegas, and I went to one of his boot camps.
00:17:05.120 I just wanted to see.
00:17:07.220 I saw him take home two girls on the same day.
00:17:10.080 I was horrified.
00:17:11.100 I didn't think that happened.
00:17:12.560 I was a lot younger.
00:17:13.440 This is, like, when I first got into the, yeah.
00:17:15.900 And that people wait because they're trying to go back to, like...
00:17:19.140 Yeah, and the reason, Doug says women need to have sex with a guy as soon as possible.
00:17:23.640 Yeah, and that's what I would say.
00:17:26.100 After a certain age, because you have to ask yourself, what's more valuable, your youth, your time, or your purity?
00:17:33.400 And we got to do this thought exercise.
00:17:36.320 I know men like to...
00:17:37.480 Women, don't let these guys lie to you.
00:17:39.960 Don't let them lie to you.
00:17:43.420 There's a lot of women with low body counts that are 50, but they're not signing up for those.
00:17:49.200 Your youth is your most valuable asset.
00:17:51.500 Now, I'm not saying...
00:17:52.200 I'm not saying you got to throw it back to anyone.
00:17:53.980 But, guys, it's really, like, if they're going to ghost you, they're going to ghost you.
00:18:01.940 If you do it on date three...
00:18:03.520 Like, the thing is, especially...
00:18:05.280 I know how these, like, players think.
00:18:09.040 And...
00:18:09.760 One, you're not going to outsmart them.
00:18:12.780 You're really not.
00:18:14.240 They've thought through everything.
00:18:16.200 But...
00:18:18.200 Like, basically, if you put up too much resistance, they just start selling you boyfriend.
00:18:26.060 They just start...
00:18:26.760 Like, if you need more comfort, that's what they teach the guys, to give the woman more, like, comfort.
00:18:31.760 So she thinks it's more long-term in order to get, you know, get the poonanny.
00:18:36.100 I mean, you just kind of got to wait and see if...
00:18:38.500 Do it.
00:18:42.140 And then you can find out if he likes you or not.
00:18:46.200 But most women aren't going to, like, tell you this.
00:18:51.460 But...
00:18:53.460 Yeah, I mean, basically, the guys that fall for that, that the...
00:18:59.640 I'm more attracted to the woman that make me wait, and they, like, see the women that make you wait is more virtuous.
00:19:05.820 You guys have to understand, the women that make you wait longer see you as more of a sucker.
00:19:10.100 Like, that's how we...
00:19:11.340 I'm the only one that's, like, being honest with you.
00:19:13.640 Like, women, when they...
00:19:18.900 Like, the PUA's have a term for this.
00:19:23.980 They say, she should pull you.
00:19:26.160 You shouldn't pull her.
00:19:27.660 She should pull you.
00:19:28.860 Because these guys can build up the attraction so much to the point that the women are pulling the guys home.
00:19:35.740 And you might think, no, that can never happen.
00:19:38.800 These guys are meticulous.
00:19:40.320 I am telling you.
00:19:42.140 I am telling you.
00:19:43.300 They told me how they cheat on their girlfriends.
00:19:46.280 And it was so good.
00:19:47.780 Like, I'm like, ladies, there's no way you could catch them.
00:19:52.200 There's just no way.
00:19:53.420 Like, they have thought through...
00:19:55.820 Like, there's one guy that he was having trouble with, like, the hair women left.
00:20:01.500 So, he just bought, like, a three-bedroom house.
00:20:04.480 And each girlfriend would have a different room.
00:20:06.580 He would stay.
00:20:09.780 Do you know what I mean?
00:20:10.780 It's like, yeah.
00:20:11.920 Attraction isn't negotiable.
00:20:13.820 Negotiable.
00:20:14.560 Yeah, I know.
00:20:15.280 But the trads, that's what they...
00:20:16.420 And the thing is, if women can easily wait till marriage with you, I want you to understand that it's with you.
00:20:23.780 Like, it's you.
00:20:27.820 Now, if she's ripping your clothes off and you say, honey, we gotta wait.
00:20:35.360 Okay, I could maybe see that.
00:20:38.000 Like, that dynamic is at least a little better.
00:20:40.860 But that's not the dynamic I see in churches.
00:20:44.820 Traditional patriarchal things.
00:20:46.540 And that's, like, not why the reason why I did it.
00:20:48.580 For me, waiting was more empowering than anything else.
00:20:51.400 Now, was there times I thought this was dumb?
00:20:54.580 Absolutely.
00:20:55.260 Was there times I questioned God about the whole thing?
00:20:57.820 Absolutely.
00:20:58.580 Even when I finally got married, I did question, what is the pain?
00:21:01.100 Now, we want to guess if her husband's going to be, like, traditionally masculine or feminine.
00:21:06.240 I don't know.
00:21:06.720 I'm going to click on the page after.
00:21:08.120 Waiting all worth it.
00:21:09.360 Because guys, you're dating someone you love.
00:21:10.900 It's really rough.
00:21:11.780 And sometimes it does take a toll to wait.
00:21:13.400 But now that I'm officially a year into my marriage,
00:21:15.860 I can say it was 100% worth waiting.
00:21:18.480 Now, let me clarify.
00:21:19.280 I just don't know.
00:21:19.860 What would the difference be?
00:21:22.320 Like, okay, I know somebody, right?
00:21:27.880 And this person's been married 40 years.
00:21:32.140 And my whole life, this person said, wait till marriage, wait till marriage, wait till marriage.
00:21:38.080 And this person had a 40-year marriage.
00:21:40.200 And I thought that was, you know, they fooled me on this, too.
00:21:43.400 And I thought to myself, I was like, huh.
00:21:46.180 Here we go.
00:21:48.180 Yeah.
00:21:49.040 Here we go.