JustPearlyThings - August 22, 2023


Fat Guests Get TRIGGERED By This Opinion


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12 minutes

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2,609

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285

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In this episode, we talk about the dangers of sugar and fat shaming, and why we should all be eating healthy and not fat shaming. We also talk about why fat shaming is a bad thing and why it can be a good thing.

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00:00:00.000 I have a question.
00:00:01.480 I have a question.
00:00:02.000 Next question.
00:00:02.900 Do you guys think fat shaming can be a good thing?
00:00:05.920 For me, yes.
00:00:06.480 No, definitely no.
00:00:08.000 Me personally, I was fat shamed.
00:00:10.300 Let me finish.
00:00:11.820 So do you guys think fat shaming can be a good thing? 0.94
00:00:15.560 No.
00:00:16.140 Wait.
00:00:16.540 Sorry, sorry, sorry.
00:00:17.580 Sorry, sorry.
00:00:18.580 I apologize, Pearl.
00:00:20.280 Do you think that fat shaming can be a good thing?
00:00:23.380 For me personally, it motivated me to lose weight.
00:00:27.140 I think it was a great thing for me, and I'm very thankful for it.
00:00:30.320 But other people have different opinions.
00:00:32.760 So I, you didn't interrupt me, so you get to go first.
00:00:36.920 Yes, go ahead.
00:00:38.200 So I can remember some years ago where my mother tapped me on my shoulder,
00:00:45.020 and she said, Pam, you're just a little bit too big.
00:00:51.760 And at the time, I can remember feeling like, oh, I felt really sad.
00:00:57.700 But it was truth, and I needed to hear that.
00:01:00.820 And it was shortly after I'd had, I think, my third baby.
00:01:06.100 But I was, I kept with the habits.
00:01:09.040 So I had really bad habits.
00:01:11.040 And looking back now, at the time, I was quite offended by that.
00:01:14.940 And I was upset.
00:01:15.780 What are those habits, if you don't mind me asking?
00:01:17.240 So just the eating of lots of chocolate, I had a sweet tooth.
00:01:22.340 That was my issue.
00:01:23.320 And also, there was chocolates, and there was gato cakes.
00:01:28.380 And there was, I used to have, when I was a kid, I used to have club biscuits underneath my pillow.
00:01:32.220 And whenever I was in a particular type of mood, because it has, it's catch-22, because you need the sugar.
00:01:38.020 Because it's now controlling your mood.
00:01:39.780 It's dictating your mood.
00:01:42.140 Did you grow up poor?
00:01:43.140 Yeah, pretty much.
00:01:43.960 Me too.
00:01:44.500 So therefore, I had, there was, we didn't have a variation of foods around.
00:01:49.300 Food was just like, it was like money.
00:01:50.860 You're just like, yeah, I got food.
00:01:52.220 It was whatever it was.
00:01:53.060 And so for me, it was, for me to be able to have the sweets, whatever it was I was getting,
00:01:57.640 sugar is what I felt I needed.
00:01:59.740 So that became a habit.
00:02:01.100 And I took that habit into adulthood.
00:02:03.220 So when my mum, who was the first person to come and say to me, Pam, you're a little bit too big.
00:02:10.280 You know, because even the father of my children, he used to bring me chocolates.
00:02:15.160 That was a way to shut me up.
00:02:17.020 Bring me the chocolates, and I'll eat them.
00:02:19.540 And then everybody's happy in the house.
00:02:21.860 But again, that became a habit.
00:02:23.400 So even now, even though I've had a tummy tuck and I've had lipo, if I'm feeling a particular way,
00:02:29.140 there are times when I will, you know, I wouldn't so much get the ferro roche,
00:02:32.900 but I might have a healthier chocolate or, you know, a dark chocolate perhaps,
00:02:37.500 but I need to have that sugar fix.
00:02:39.960 And I think that now we can still have those types of behaviours.
00:02:45.720 They can still linger about.
00:02:48.020 Even when you, you know, you might look good, but again, are you healthy?
00:02:51.520 Dude, sugar is way more addicting.
00:02:55.520 Sugar is more addicting than cocaine.
00:02:57.440 Do you know that?
00:02:58.180 It's the biggest killer, isn't it?
00:02:58.660 Do you know that?
00:02:59.480 Do you know that?
00:03:00.460 Yeah, I do that.
00:03:01.040 I know you've never done cocaine, Pearl, but I've been to Columbia a couple times.
00:03:07.560 Let me tell you something.
00:03:08.280 They're like, it's crazy how addictive sugar is.
00:03:13.360 Isn't it the biggest killer?
00:03:14.340 And it's honestly, in the United States, sugar's in everything.
00:03:18.660 It's in, you know, it's in bread in the States.
00:03:21.280 It's high fructose syrup is in the bread.
00:03:23.380 There's sugar in every single thing in the States.
00:03:26.540 And that's the main reason why so many people are fat in the States. 0.77
00:03:31.080 Because everything has sugar in it.
00:03:33.200 The salad dressing has sugar in it.
00:03:34.960 People are like, I'm going to be healthy.
00:03:36.000 I'm going to eat a salad.
00:03:36.600 And they have fucking salad dressing that has sugar and all these seed oils in it.
00:03:40.680 So we're living in this, like, kind of contaminant world.
00:03:43.980 But there's a lot of people making these breakthroughs and coming through and understanding, like, the fundamentals of nutritional science and putting it into food.
00:03:51.540 Thank God.
00:03:52.600 You know, but, like, the average person is just so poorly uneducated.
00:03:58.540 Do you remember the food pyramid?
00:04:00.620 Did you guys have food pyramid?
00:04:01.900 I did it in school, but I don't remember it.
00:04:03.560 The food pyramid said you needed to eat six to 11 servings of bread or rice a day.
00:04:10.620 Can you imagine 11 cups of rice a day?
00:04:13.720 11 cups of rice a day.
00:04:15.360 But do you know what?
00:04:16.000 It's your responsibility to educate yourself on nutrition.
00:04:21.280 I was dumb.
00:04:21.820 I trusted the government.
00:04:22.700 Do you know what I mean?
00:04:23.920 Don't trust them.
00:04:25.420 Years ago I did, but when I got really fat, when I told you, when I went vegan, I started looking at what is in the food and the ingredients.
00:04:32.780 It's up to you to educate yourself.
00:04:34.640 Yes, it is.
00:04:35.280 I'm going to show you that.
00:04:36.300 So unless you educate yourself.
00:04:37.780 But now that we have social media, it's become a lot easier.
00:04:40.400 But if you think about years ago, we didn't have this.
00:04:42.460 We had to trust the government.
00:04:43.980 We had to process.
00:04:45.160 You can question everything.
00:04:46.300 You know, now ketchup is considered a fruit in the food pyramid of the United States.
00:04:51.680 I think I'm joking.
00:04:52.520 It's process is the key word here.
00:04:55.460 It's processed sugar.
00:04:56.800 If it was from a sugar cane, if it was from a fruit, it's natural sugar.
00:05:01.460 So it's actually processed is the key word.
00:05:03.500 Not sugar cane.
00:05:04.500 Because honey is natural.
00:05:05.920 Honey, not true raw honey.
00:05:07.020 I don't know.
00:05:08.120 I mean, when I was a kid, I was also a chunky kid.
00:05:11.320 I lost the weight when I started sports, but the habits continued.
00:05:14.360 You know what I mean?
00:05:15.040 Yeah.
00:05:15.320 They persist.
00:05:16.400 Yeah.
00:05:16.740 And I know how to make really good cookies from scratch.
00:05:20.700 And it's with all natural stuff because you're making it from scratch.
00:05:23.420 And that made me pretty fat.
00:05:25.340 So I think it's just sugar.
00:05:26.580 It's the American.
00:05:28.120 I used to eat like half of the cookie dough when I was a kid.
00:05:31.240 And like the American diet, like the mainstream American diet is just so unfortunately unhealthy.
00:05:38.400 Like, you know, do you know which country has the lowest obesity rate in the world?
00:05:42.400 Japan?
00:05:43.220 No.
00:05:43.460 No.
00:05:44.640 It's China, right? 0.78
00:05:45.800 No.
00:05:46.080 No, not China.
00:05:47.680 I thought it was like Mediterranean food.
00:05:50.000 Iceland.
00:05:50.860 No.
00:05:51.280 No, no.
00:05:51.720 It's Vietnam. 0.78
00:05:52.960 Oh, no.
00:05:53.640 Yeah.
00:05:54.160 And if you ever go to Vietnam, if you eat there, it's like, first of all, if you ever
00:05:57.960 go to Vietnam, it's just like a giant, it's like a small city in a jungle. 0.99
00:06:02.040 And Vietnamese people eat so healthy.
00:06:04.820 They eat natural foods.
00:06:07.040 There's not a lot of GMOs, nonsense, you know.
00:06:09.180 You know, Vietnam has one of the lowest divorce rates in the world, too.
00:06:11.960 7%.
00:06:12.320 Have you been to Vietnam?
00:06:13.460 That's the place I want to go to.
00:06:14.860 It's really awesome.
00:06:15.720 I've eaten Vietnamese food.
00:06:18.040 That's money.
00:06:18.800 It's good.
00:06:19.160 And I used to have a boy called Li Nam when I was in primary school as well.
00:06:23.100 He was Vietnamese.
00:06:24.140 Yeah.
00:06:24.400 So, like, you know, the food, when you eat there, too.
00:06:26.480 And I've noticed this because, you know, I travel a lot.
00:06:28.980 I'm like, I'm addicted to traveling.
00:06:30.540 But honestly, every time I go back to America and I start eating American food, I get, like,
00:06:36.080 a bloated stomach.
00:06:37.180 Yeah.
00:06:37.360 I get digestion issues.
00:06:38.980 It's poison.
00:06:39.560 And I, yeah, no.
00:06:40.720 That's what it does to be.
00:06:41.840 It's poison.
00:06:42.020 I know that I'm vegan.
00:06:42.920 Yeah.
00:06:43.200 If I ever eat.
00:06:44.060 Because, obviously, I've grown up on processed food.
00:06:46.940 I've grown up with meat, you know, and, you know, fish and all that kind of thing.
00:06:51.960 So, when I go back to eating those kind of foods, it does.
00:06:57.180 It affects me.
00:06:58.220 It affects my body.
00:06:59.240 I can, yeah.
00:06:59.860 I went to, I just went to the United States and every time I go back to America, I just
00:07:05.260 have to eat Chick-fil-A.
00:07:06.720 I just have to eat Chick-fil-A.
00:07:08.260 But I eat it.
00:07:09.060 I eat a breakfast.
00:07:09.900 I eat, like, the Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich or I eat the, or the breakfast biscuit or whatever.
00:07:14.460 And then my stomach, I look like I'm three months pregnant.
00:07:16.660 Like, it just bloats me up.
00:07:18.720 And I'm miserable for the rest of the day.
00:07:20.840 You're bloated.
00:07:21.540 You know what my trick is for me for that?
00:07:23.280 If I do eat something and I am bloated, I have a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,
00:07:26.560 a, a, a waist trainer that I wear and I'm not, I'm not joking.
00:07:31.940 If I, if I know I want to eat something, my waist trainer is in my bag.
00:07:35.780 Can we talk about the health of that then?
00:07:37.480 We're talking about health.
00:07:38.720 Let's, yeah, let's, let's explore what, what, what waist trainers do for people and to people, right?
00:07:45.580 Because waist trainers, you know, they used to be used for posture correction and you have,
00:07:50.140 like, you know, post-surgery garments like Farhad.
00:07:52.820 Yes.
00:07:53.280 But if you are just putting on a waist trainer and let's say you're wearing it for extended periods of time
00:07:58.420 because you're super committed to having a snatched waist, what is that doing to your organs?
00:08:02.700 Well, I've been doing it for five years.
00:08:06.360 You know, honestly, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I've been wearing it for five years.
00:08:12.140 I just can't see waist trainers being as big of a problem as obesity.
00:08:17.060 No, I'm not saying this.
00:08:17.900 I'm not saying this to a comparable.
00:08:18.940 No, and I'm saying I think that's why we focus on obesity a lot more is because it's just a way bigger problem.
00:08:24.420 You guys would always clown.
00:08:26.300 I'm so tired of the UK clowning on America for being overweight.
00:08:29.860 Because I looked up the stats and it's not that different.
00:08:34.040 It's not that different.
00:08:35.260 But U.S. is massive.
00:08:36.720 U.S. is massive.
00:08:37.960 But I will say this.
00:08:38.800 It's like, okay, I think we're like 70% overweight and you guys are like 60.
00:08:43.800 Yeah, we've caught up.
00:08:46.480 But I don't, I think they're in the hillbilly sides of England.
00:08:51.240 Because like in London, I don't know.
00:08:52.860 I was expecting to see a bunch of fatties here. 1.00
00:08:55.060 But I see gorgeous, good-looking women here. 1.00
00:08:57.880 I think it's because everybody's walking all the time here.
00:09:00.920 You know what I mean?
00:09:01.540 That's like when I first moved.
00:09:03.520 Yeah, Australians are pretty fat. 1.00
00:09:05.060 Like, I was driving, like, I drove everywhere in Australia.
00:09:08.360 I moved here, four months, 10 kilos, gone.
00:09:11.560 Because you're walking, right?
00:09:12.280 And I wasn't, I didn't change my diet, nothing.
00:09:14.880 Everything was the same.
00:09:15.960 And I'm like, well.
00:09:16.680 25% of adults in England are obese.
00:09:20.320 It's not like.
00:09:21.120 Isn't that terrible?
00:09:22.360 It's like, that's not bad.
00:09:23.560 Because like, we're American.
00:09:24.640 Like, well, it's not bad.
00:09:25.720 Because we have 40% in the States.
00:09:29.920 I'm sure we are 40%.
00:09:31.940 I know the fat stats.
00:09:33.960 I know the fat stats.
00:09:35.160 I got in trouble.
00:09:36.100 So I'll tell you, ladies, something.
00:09:37.120 I recently got in trouble, right?
00:09:38.160 Because I, I like, I trolled chats once in a while.
00:09:40.540 And there was a, there was a girl that was on, there was a girl that was on a show.
00:09:44.600 And no disrespect to her.
00:09:46.160 It is what it is.
00:09:47.340 But, you know, she was, I mean, objectively speaking, she was a little bit on the chubbier side.
00:09:52.800 And I just wrote, who is this chubby woman? 1.00
00:09:55.180 And then I wrote, ha, ha, ha.
00:09:56.500 And then I wrote, she's, she's about 40 pounds too heavy for me. 0.99
00:10:00.360 My personal preference, right?
00:10:02.660 And she was really, really, really, really upset that I said this.
00:10:09.280 And the reality is, though, like, if you look at her, like, her weight is still what it is.
00:10:15.820 Yeah.
00:10:16.080 But she, like, vilified me and demonized me. 1.00
00:10:19.500 She could have ran a marathon like I did. 1.00
00:10:22.960 You know, it's like, so I went to America and basically a girl got angry because I said she was a little heavier than I preferred for my sexual preference.
00:10:34.480 I think women were, I think, I've been offended by that, though. 1.00
00:10:37.600 No, I think it's women. 1.00
00:10:38.920 But how did you say it?
00:10:40.300 How did you say it?
00:10:41.400 What was the context?
00:10:42.280 I just told you the context.
00:10:43.720 I don't think it matters how he says it.
00:10:45.400 I think it's women were too soft and we need to get thicker skin. 1.00
00:10:48.560 And especially if he's making fun of something that you can change.
00:10:52.160 Because we make fun of short men all the time.
00:10:54.580 And until we stop doing that, until we stop doing that, we have no right to tell men what they can and can't prefer.
00:11:03.100 But it was a peak America experience, too.
00:11:06.460 Because basically, I went to America and a fat girl got mad at me because she was fat. 1.00
00:11:11.460 Well.
00:11:12.560 I was just like, you know.
00:11:13.660 And that's the thing.
00:11:14.200 Because if there was no truth in that, you wouldn't have been as angry as she was.
00:11:18.420 Did you trigger her anyway?
00:11:20.300 Oh, she was super triggered.
00:11:21.580 But did you trigger her?
00:11:22.440 What did you do?
00:11:23.280 We need to at least hear this.
00:11:24.300 Because a fat person will not get angry if you don't.
00:11:27.180 I wrote those three things in the chat.
00:11:28.940 That's all I did.
00:11:29.300 But sometimes the truth needs to be told.
00:11:31.720 Some people need to hear.
00:11:32.900 And the other thing I don't understand is, like, celebrities like Lizzo will lead with their weight.
00:11:40.160 And that's what she's leading with because she's in these super scantily, like, she's wearing basically nothing. 0.94
00:11:46.380 And that's what she's leading with.
00:11:47.860 And then she gets mad when people comment on her weight. 1.00
00:11:50.640 Adele was overweight.
00:11:51.800 Nobody commented on it because she didn't lead with it until she lost it.
00:11:56.200 Then they commented.
00:11:56.740 And then they said that she might have not been well when she lost the weight.
00:12:01.960 Yeah.
00:12:02.520 That's like Fat Amy as well.
00:12:04.400 Like, she's known as Fat Amy.
00:12:05.820 But, like, she's lost all that weight.
00:12:07.920 And she looks amazing.
00:12:09.300 Are you talking about Pitch Perfect?
00:12:10.540 Yeah.
00:12:11.400 That was from walking as well.
00:12:13.120 All she did was walk. 0.99
00:12:14.040 And even Lizzo, she wore, like, a thong to a basketball game with kids. 0.92
00:12:19.240 No.
00:12:19.520 And it's like even if you want.
00:12:20.160 But I think that's a separate thing.
00:12:21.540 She should have just covered up.
00:12:22.440 If you look at her Instagram, she knows kids follow her.
00:12:25.200 It looks like soft core porn.
00:12:26.860 It literally does.
00:12:27.800 I'm not.
00:12:27.980 I'm not done with that.
00:12:28.920 And it's like if an Instagram model leads with her body and men call her a slut. 1.00
00:12:35.200 You've got to expect the criticism.
00:12:35.980 Yeah.
00:12:36.320 If you lead with it.
00:12:37.420 You've got to expect her to come from there.
00:12:37.980 Like, if an Instagram, even a thin one, it's like an Instagram model.
00:12:41.500 She's wearing nothing and then people call her a slut. 1.00
00:12:43.580 Well, you're leading with that.
00:12:44.860 So, let me ask you a question then.
00:12:46.120 So, I'm sitting here, I'm wearing, I don't know what this is called, but it doesn't have.
00:12:49.980 A boob tube.
00:12:50.780 Boob tube. 0.72
00:12:51.380 There we go.
00:12:51.900 Boob tube. 0.72
00:12:52.680 I don't know my fashion.
00:12:53.800 Call it.