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- March 22, 2023
He Claims the Red Pill is Propaganda
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9 minutes
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Word Count
2,044
Sentence Count
189
Misogynist Sentences
8
Hate Speech Sentences
5
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like I want to keep on saying it, a lot of the red pill arguments are true. A lot of them are
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true mixed with a whole lot of lies. And we have to be honest, there is an ideological bent and
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there is a for-profit bent for the ideologies. But if we're simply going to stop there and not
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do a deep dive analyzing the study, if we don't sit down and analyze every single statistic number
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and juxtapose with the leading experts in the world who are also studying these things,
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we don't have a full complete message to share to men and women for the benefit of society. Because
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to me, if we're genuinely saying that the red pill message is the truth, if it is indeed the truth or
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attempt to convey the truth, the truth should only make society better. It should only make men better.
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It should only make women better. It should only create a better world for us. And so to me,
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when I see an ideology, when I see a praxicology, whatever the heck they're calling it nowadays,
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when I see a worldview and I'm looking at it and I'm analyzing it and I'm understanding it and I'm
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seeing all people who are leaders in it and I've seen the inconsistencies in what they say and what
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they do, I'm saying that there's a deeper conversation with the numbers and there's a
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deeper conversation with this type of information that is not being discussed. I'm glad we're doing
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right now. Um, to me, it's like, if it goes from 50% to 40%, who cares? That's, that's the way I
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don't do that. Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, because to me, people aren't
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getting together. They looked at the, they get it like getting married rate is lower than it's ever
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been. So, so it's like, like to me, it's just like men are getting a bad deal today and, and they're,
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and they're signing a contract where women are paid to leave and take the kids. And, and to me,
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that's just, and especially in the UK, like I live in London, like, like girls, like their child
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supports literally depended on how much you have the kids. So you're literally paid to take the kids
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away. Okay. So like, to me, it's just like a bad deal. And even, even if you sign a contract and
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it's a 40% versus 50%, that's still not great. You first and foremost, let's not be, let's not be
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deceptive. Right. Okay. You cannot, if you understand statistics, you cannot say a 10% decrease
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in the likelihood of something happening, isn't a big deal. If there was a drug or if there was
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a disease and we said, you know what? The disease has a 50%. Let me finish. Let me finish. You told
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me not to cut you off. I'm not going to cut you off. Okay. Cause I understand what you're trying
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to do right now. I was under the impression of this would be a certain kind of conversation,
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but I'm getting what you're doing right now. So if you want to make the conversation the way you
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want to make this conversation is no problem. So like I was saying, the way I want to make the
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conversation, like I was saying, like I was saying, if there was a disease and a disease
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had a 50% fatality rate and all of a sudden 10 years later, even if the, the people, the amount
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of people with the disease went down by 2%, 3%, 4%, whatever number you want to give. But then all
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of a sudden that disease has a 40% fatality rate. The fatality rate went down 10%. Well, we ask ourselves,
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yo, how did that happen? No one says, oh, 50%, 40%, no big deal. So everything's the same
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thing. No, you're going to be like, wow, it's still high than we would like it to be, but it's
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a lot better than the way it was before. So what can we learn from that? What can we improve
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on that? How can we make that better? And so to me, going back to the ideology, my biggest
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thing is I'm all about how can we make the world a better place? And simply saying, simply
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saying that 50%, 40%, that there's no big difference. It's deceitful. It is not communicating
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what's really going on. And so I think it's really cool. And it's, I kind of now, a lot
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of things are making more sense, but if we're going to have a real conversation about men
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and women in today's society and marriage in today's society, we have to get into specific
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details, every single point of the conversation and understand the nuance to each issue. So if
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you want to get into men getting a bad deal in marriage, we can talk about that specific
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issue. But I think sometimes it's very easy to be able to stay in our echo chambers, in
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our silos and share these ideas without having them fleshed out that somebody can give us
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some pushback.
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But I just think like you're missing the point. Like the point is that the laws don't favor
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men today. Like the point is, is it 50% or 40%? That's not the point. The point is that
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like right now it's a contract that women are paid to leave. And so if that's the way
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the laws are set up, I understand why men are walking away. Like I understand why they
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wouldn't push marriage.
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Yeah. So here's the deal. So let's, let's play your game. I love to play your game.
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I'm not trying to like, it's not, I'm sorry. Okay. I'm playing. I'm having fun.
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Okay.
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Go with it. You're a content creator. We're having fun. We're having fun. Come on. Are we
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good?
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Yeah. Yeah. We're good.
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Okay. We're having fun. Game is just a word.
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Guys, we're having fun. This is content. We have lights. We have people here. We're having
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a good time.
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Yeah.
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Don't take anything personal.
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Yeah.
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Some of the peppers might be too spicy.
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We're just having fun.
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No, I know. I know. Go ahead. Go ahead.
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Cool. So let's play your game.
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Okay.
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Let's say the system is all the way effed up.
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Yeah.
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Men are getting screwed left and right. What do we do now?
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I think you change the laws. Like honestly, I actually, I'd like to run for an office someday.
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I'd like to actually try to change the laws.
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I love what you just said.
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Yeah.
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I love what you just said. My question to you, you're very smart. When we said we should change
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the laws.
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Yeah.
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How many people are getting into law?
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How many people are doing content to be able to change the laws versus how many people are
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doing content simply complaining about the laws? In your personal opinion, all feelings,
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no facts. Shout out to Andrew Schultz.
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What percent of people are actually trying to change the laws?
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Versus people complaining about the laws. All feelings, no facts. No, there's no analytics.
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I know. I know. I don't know. I've met a lot of men's rights activists. They actually
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have a really, have you ever talked to that community at all?
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Yeah, of course. I've seen the Red Bull documentary.
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No, not even that. Like they have whole groups. I don't know. Like that's, that's my,
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you couldn't take me. You're a smart woman. You have no educated guests in the world.
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Um, I don't think you're going to like my answer.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I feel like, I feel like there really
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aren't that many content creators in the Red Pill space. Like I think it's a, it's a generally
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small space on YouTube. So if I had to guess, there's probably more lawyers trying to change
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the laws.
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Okay.
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So like lawyers that like defend men and that sort of thing.
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I love it. I love it. There's more lawyers. My biggest thing is let's say the laws are
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broken. I'm about solutions. Yeah. So what I'm saying is if you truly believe, if you're
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like, man, the system is broken, then the system got broken because somebody broke it. So you're
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saying that before the system was working, is that safe to say with the system working
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before?
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Um, before, yeah, but I'd say before no fault divorce, it was more fair. Okay. It was more
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fair.
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So, so the system, so what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what,
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I actually, I actually pinned, I think birth control.
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So was it, was it working? Was the system working?
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Yes. More, it was more fair before I would say.
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Okay. So she said it was, it was working before, before it was more fair.
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Was it working? If it's broken now, it must've been working before.
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Yeah. It's, it would seem, it was broken.
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It would seem like that. Yes. I'm asking you the right question. Was it broken? If you're
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telling me right now, it's broken, that's your words. You said the system is broken right
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now. So therefore, if the toy was broken today, does that mean the toy was, was not broken
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yesterday?
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Um, well, cause, cause what I'm thinking is there's like multiple points that I would pinpoint
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that started to like cause the decline of relationships in the West. So it's like, you could say no fault
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divorce, but like, then I would, I would also argue that birth control contributed.
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I would argue like that the beginning of feminists, cause I don't believe in like first wave,
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second wave, third wave. Like, I think there's multiple things, but I would say before it
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was more fair. Does that make sense?
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Okay. So let's, let's, we'll stay in your lane.
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Yeah.
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I love what you brought up because no fault divorce in 1970s changed everything.
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Yeah.
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I keep on forgetting the name of the birth control. Is it in void and void in 1950s?
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I forgot the name of the first birth control in 1950s. It changed the whole entire game.
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Right. But you primarily said the system today is broken to not benefit men. Yeah. Right. Yes.
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And so if, so my argument is that if you had a community of guys who are investing all their
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money, all their energy, we're getting into law. We're, we're supporting these people. We're putting
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these people on our platform. If we're putting these champions who are going to go into Congress
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and going to go into the local places.
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That's a good idea. You should, you should do that.
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No, let's stop. I love it. Let's stop right here. Yeah.
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You said it was a good idea, right? Why aren't the, why, why aren't those people doing it?
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Cause, cause you guys, you're the one who told me they believe the system is broken. That's
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what you told me. So therefore if they believe it's broken, why are they not doing everything
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in their power to fix the system?
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Well, I think from their point of view, it's like, it's more powerful for men to walk away
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because like women need an incentive for the laws to change.
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Okay. So, so, so if men, if men walk away from relationships, I mean, I could talk, think
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of like 10 girls off the top of my head that are mad because they won't get a ring.
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Okay. So here's, here is the reality. Yeah. Do you really believe, do you like, I'm talking
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about solutions here. Yeah. So you're saying the better solution is for men to walk away
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from relationships. That's a better solution for society.
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