Married Man Gives His Thoughts On The Red Pill Community
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Summary
In this episode, I sit down with my good friend Aaron Clary to discuss what it means to be a MGTOW and why it s a bad idea to have kids. Aaron and I have been friends for a long time and we have a lot in common in that we have both been raised in the Christian and Millennial culture. He has been in the military and has been married for over 20 years. He is a father, husband, and father-in-law to his wife and kids. We talk about what it takes to have a child, how to have children, and what to do if you don t want to have one.
Transcript
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How do you think social media has influenced women and men?
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I have to say, I think we've had some good years now with the red pill content.
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Social media actually is having an impact of getting the truth out to a lot of people.
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But still, if you look at just the narratives out there that float around social media,
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That's where social media has taken us with women.
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And with men, it's taken us, I think, to more, a better place with red pill information.
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But social media, we're more isolated from each other than we've ever been
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And there's guys that would tell you I couldn't be MGTOW.
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I'm in a 21-year long-term relationship with a partner who I love very much.
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That would not qualify me for some guys as a man going his own way.
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However, I am a man, and I am going my own way.
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So make your conclusion there whether or not I can be MGTOW.
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What do you think the most common response I get about MGTOW is these are the men that
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You know, guys don't get to MGTOW from sexual failure.
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They get there from sexual success and bad experiences with women.
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But I know a lot of MGTOW guys that did their stint in family court and came out with the
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blades poking out of their back and went MGTOW from there.
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I don't buy, of course, that's just a sour grapes mentality.
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All those guys were guys women didn't want anyway.
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How can a guy, if a guy wants to, like, what are a guy's options if he wants to have a family?
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If a guy wants to have a family in the traditional sense, I would say, you know, make sure your
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Because if you're going to pick from the pool in the United States and Canada, you're going
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Well, there's just not hardly any wife and mother material.
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I heard Aaron Clary the other day say something I thought was great.
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Lots of women want to get married and have children.
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And that is what we're actually dealing with here.
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So I suggest to guys, you know, if you can do it, if you can pull off the digital nomad,
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move to the Philippines or somewhere else where the culture is not feminist, where people don't
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embrace that stuff, and start shopping there for a family.
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But if you get online or travel there and bring somebody back here to the United States or Canada
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or the UK, you're going to end up with the same problem.
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And then you end up with them having the use of our family court systems.
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So if you can't move, I would say another option is surrogacy.
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If you can pay a woman to have a child for you, if you want a child that bad.
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But for a guy that wants to stay in the United States and have a family, all I can say is
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Is there a way for men to legally protect themselves when they have a kid?
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Do not have a child unless you're prepared for the distinct possibility of that child hating
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your guts because he or she has been alienated from you.
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This is the most common thing at XY Crew where we do men's groups throughout the week.
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You can find out more about it at paulelam.com forward slash XY Crew.
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But so many of the men in there, their children were being turned on them even before the divorce
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The mother was colluding with the child to alienate the father and the repair of that is often a failure.
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It's just hard to get over it once a child has been alienated.
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There are some cases where you can patch it up, but they're very few and far between.
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But don't have children and expect that it's going to be this.
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You're going to be bonded with that child until the day you die with this loving relationship.
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Men are really, really ill-advised to go into it expecting that that's the likely outcome.
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The more likely outcome is a bunch of money and a child that hates you.
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I feel like I was like, I don't know, maybe 14 years old or something.
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And I realized just how all the moms are crazy.
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And even if they're married, they're still talking shit about the dad.
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And you will see women ragging about their husbands all day.
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And you can even see the alienation of the child play out in their comments
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And it's exactly why I tell men all the time, don't do it.