O F Model Call Herself a 10
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the beauty standards in the dating world, beauty standards, and what it means to be "average" when it comes to beauty standards. We also discuss our personal experiences with beauty standards and how they affect us and how we view them.
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yeah oh well there it is okay cool we have a question here from stifler ask the ladies to
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rate their looks on a scale of one to ten okay we can do that go ahead what about you I think
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like a seven and a half eight okay I think I'm attending the Midwest have you scoot into the
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table depends on the city in LA the number goes down let's say you're in like a international
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hub somewhere yeah I mean okay okay like like LA for example I went on a good day a solid like a
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strong eight okay I would call myself a ten but that's because I'm no matter who it is like
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no one's ever gonna think I'm the prettiest girl or like there's not ever there's always gonna be
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somebody that thinks I'm ugly so I'm just gonna call myself a ten and be happy with that I like
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that you know what I mean well not everybody likes me not everybody has to okay we'll let everybody
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answer go ahead I'd give myself an eight if I was down south or in the Midwest I'd be Beyonce but
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here in LA you feel me it really just depends on what part of well we're in Santa Barbara but I'm
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from LA I'm from the hood so in the hood I'm definitely a ten you feel me but when you go to
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Beverly Hills stuff like that you you fat you got a belly a little fupa then yeah your number go way
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down so Beverly Hills versus the hood you know let me know more to love baby more to love um I would
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rate myself like a seven or an eight okay I'd probably give myself a 6.5 or a seven I think it depends on
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the city and state to like in Florida maybe like a seven but here in California maybe like a 6.5
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yeah I think I'm six 6.5 I think that's about accurate
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that's kind of changing my mind I think he has a low ball in but I was gonna say like a like a
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seven or eight but I'm gonna go with the eight I say five I think I'm an average chick
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oh not pretty no what that doesn't mean I don't think there's anything wrong with average
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we're talking about looks alone looks alone I mean I think like there's nothing wrong with being
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average I think if you take 10 girls at the table like half of us probably are average yeah I think
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no one wants to be like honest with me isn't just because you're not saying you're 10 doesn't mean
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you're not confident either there's a difference between realistic and just not confident I agree
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completely yeah I just I don't know why like we live in this society where average is seen as a
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bad thing like most people are average not everyone can be like if you think about if you're an eight
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that means you're in the top 20 percent of beauty you should have had top 20 percent of beauty results
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so that means um I don't know modeling contracts I don't know you know um eligible top 20 percent 10
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percent men in your dms or um I don't know but not not just like like serious taking you seriously
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but go ahead there's also been beauty studies um they've done where they've like had eight faces
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lined up of different like kinds of beauty supermodel beauty with the chiseled features
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and like you know what people actually find most beautiful is most familiar so it's like more the
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girl next door look that was actually rated the most beautiful or even like somebody like I've noticed
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like the more that I've been around couples um people tend to date people that we kind of resemble
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them or someone that they love like their mom or something I don't know why that is again it's
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probably the familiarity thing that she just pointed out but I've I've I've continued to notice more and
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more since being in LA that a lot of people tend to date people that kind of look a little bit like
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them so it doesn't mean that necessarily like it's the beauty standard it's just beauty beauty in each
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beauty I'd like to say that beauty is not subjective it's objective there's been many studies like people
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tend to find the same things attractive like people might have like certain types where it differs
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a little bit but in general like it's not subjective it's yeah and every man woman in
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between is someone's type at the time not oh true yeah I think it's a question
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because I didn't want to get lip fillers until like like three years ago when it became popular to have
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big lips and as someone like yeah and I was bullied for my big lips growing up until it became like
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people were getting lip injections but I like that's why I call myself I'm not going to hold on
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base what I think of myself on what anybody else thinks of me I look in the mirror every day and
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I like what I see yeah but that's so but it's true I like what I see in the mirror so in my mind
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okay then I okay in my mind I'm not saying that you have to see me in my mind in my mind in my mind
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I'm a millionaire in my mind I'm a millionaire and a PhD in my mind and I feel like that so
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therefore I am that's just because you like what you see in the mirror also that doesn't mean that
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you're a 10 a 10 is saying you are absolutely perfect so you're saying you don't have any acne
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your hair is perfect every single day like you're in the best shape of your life you're saying you
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have absolutely nothing that you think you can improve on yourself I'm not saying that but I'm
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saying that I would consider myself a 10 I don't know what other people would call me
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I think maybe you're thinking of different categories because objectively the golden ratio
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is a measure a measure of facial symmetry and it is objective you can look at someone's face and
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see how closely they match and so I think when a lot of people say it what they're talking about
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is this is how I measure up to this ideal standard of beauty though I do think yeah you're right over
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time or whoever said that over time society does value different aspects of women's beauty as time
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changes yeah remember women make 70 to 80 percent of consumer buying decisions so all the media is
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marketed towards women it's not for men what men what men likes really has not changed
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natural more natural you see but I said earlier like it really does depend on the country and it
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does depend on where you're living because it's a lot different in America than it is in Israel I
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lived in Israel for over four years and the beauty standards there while completely different
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when I got back here when I got back here I went and I wanted a nose job right away as soon as I got
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back I went and got Botox I went and got lip filler I didn't feel beautiful here by beauty standards at
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all but when I lived in Israel I was very confident and I felt great because there they don't care about
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those beauty standards right they don't care about them they've done studies on this like with men all
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over the world I mean I lived there first I mean I've lived okay I've lived in Germany I've lived all
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over the world too so we could go back and forth in the I lived game but in general men tend to find
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the same things attractive I don't believe that's true at all but okay well but what do you think
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I find attractive um and I mean fit feminine friendly in general um symmetrical face I mean
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I think you kind of know it when you see it if we're being honest so supposedly like um you know
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biologically like where the men are attracted to like a woman that looks like she's capable of
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bearing a child so like yeah to me that's the only way that we can say what we know men like hair
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all different between what men like yeah it's not it's not that one thing like oh if you have a
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small nose every man is gonna like you men in general aren't that picky and also I don't like
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supermodels some men like the BBL big booty latinas like everyone has a different type so you can't
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just put men into like a certain category I mean men really aren't that picky they swipe right on
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dating apps like 50 percent of the time but again men just really are not picky on who they fuck but
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they're picky on who they want to call their girlfriend yeah and another thing is is you can
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be you can be the complete you can be the complete and total package and get delivered to the wrong
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house I'm just saying you can be you can be what somebody is dying and praying for and not get
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the choosers so then you pick the wrong house no I'm saying no I'm saying I'm saying you can walk
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into a room and be attend to somebody in that room but go up to the wrong guy I mean not really not
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okay I'll give let's let's do it let's do a different example is Lizzo gonna be a 10 anywhere
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no Lizzo if she goes to Japan that's exactly what I'm that's exactly what I'm saying no no but she's
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not gonna be a 10 anywhere I mean we could argue that maybe like you know I'm confused what the hell
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we're arguing actually well yeah she will be a 10 somewhere like I said in the hood she's just like
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every woman they have they could be the exact perfect package for the perfect person right but that's
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exactly what I'm trying to say Lizzo if you want to use her as an example she's a beautiful woman
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right right I think what she's getting at is that I mean I have common sides I think that's where you
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get in I think that's where you get it wrong sometimes I don't understand why everyone can
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we have to we have to generalize in order to have conversations sometimes we know we have to
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otherwise if we're gonna have a conversation about every single exception but we're gonna be
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here all day if I said you guys look like Lizzo would you take it as a compliment her face and her
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confidence and the way that she carries herself hell yeah I can find beauty in every single woman
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though like that's just me I think what Pearl was trying to get at is that it's okay to be normal
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it's okay not to be a 10 out of 10 in society's standards everybody is told nowadays that they're
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special and that you're a 10 you're a 10 no let's be for real we have to be honest with ourselves we go
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out into the world I'm gonna go out somewhere somebody doesn't like black girls guess what I'm
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gonna have to do except that people don't like black girls I'm gonna go out there and change the
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world's opinion no that doesn't make that doesn't change how you feel about yourself yeah but I mean
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I feel about myself because I'm going off of society's standards what I look like I feel that
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way but she's saying the question was to rate our looks not ourselves there's a big difference
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okay but come on even if we're gonna go off personality what we all have perfect 10 no no I'm
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saying like there's no areas for improvement in your personality no I mean it is when you're saying
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you're a 10 if you're including because you said I said I said if we were telling even if we were
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going personality that's what I said that's true yeah but I think that we're having a little bit
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of confusion about objectively there is an objective beauty standard you can look at a woman and there
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are different across races across ethnicities across all different types of things there are women who
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are objectively beautiful when they walk in a room you know that's a 10 you know it you know it when
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you see it but there is relative beauty like like like you were saying it depends on where you are
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and you may have somebody who for that for that culture for that area that's a 10 and it looks
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different than the objective 10 that all most people if you have a room full of a thousand people
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from all over the world they know when somebody walks in that's a 10 objectively because you can see
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it's the facial symmetry it's just the math and our brains comprehend it as beauty 100 and if you bring
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somebody with blue eyes somewhere where it's probably not predominantly not blue eyes they're
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immediately going to get like a double look or be held to like oh wow that's beautiful because
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it's not seen as often or whatever the case may be I'm not just I'm just saying blue eyes because I
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that's what I have so I'm not going to critique somebody else's look but yeah well I don't
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understand is who is the shot caller that said oh this is the perfect structured face this is what
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beauty is it's just society who has the right to say that you're right who are you bringing up the golden ratio
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it's just math it is and you know another thing is ridiculous to me is that okay this is what a 30
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year old should look like this is what you should look like when you're 20 this is what
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I have a question I have a question how tall are you how tall are you five seven okay would you date a guy
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that's five foot I have really oh plenty of times five foot seven inches yeah no look where I come
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from look you you just blessed and at my age you just blessed to get somebody that you feel me wants
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to show you some love honey and show you a good time honey so you got to go along with it baby if
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it's if it's your you feel me your type then it's your type height shouldn't matter you know what I
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mean yeah I don't I think that's shallow to be honest to to put somebody down just based off their
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women women do though if you look at the filters on dating apps though like most like the most common
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filter is six foot and up and most women have that filter on if they can I have a question I feel
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like most men like shorter women as well they do yeah that's my problem five two is like this they want
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a little tiny so for those of you who are working in the adult industry I'm curious what you think
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your life will look like about 10 to 15 years in the future like what do you picture where do you
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picture your careers going I mean I've definitely been thinking about that a lot since I got pregnant
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and also before as well um that's also why I kind of stepped out of the corn industry itself
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because I was realizing that you know at least with OnlyFans yes they can screenshot yes they can
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screen record everything and it can be put out on Reddit or whatever but that I'm on the hub
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anyone can look me up and now it kind of sucks like looking back on it I don't regret my decisions
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because they got me to where I am today and the person that I am today and I will always be thankful
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for that um but I do wish I went ahead and did my research before and did things a lot differently
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than I did um but I wonder did you know before you started so this is something so I'm a career coach
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and I help people find jobs without buying college degrees so I help people get into tech and different
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industries blue collar doesn't really matter whatever people want to do I'll help them figure out how to do it
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and so I'm curious about if if it's common knowledge that if you do that kind of work later on down the
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line it may show up and an employer may choose not to hire you and they're legally allowed to do so
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and how have you like planned for that on down the line I went ahead I went ahead Kiana still is my real
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name but I changed the spelling of it I use a fake last name legally you changed it no okay so if I walk
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into a job they you can't correlate Kiana Kumani with my real name um what if they start like making
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technology to like find your face well they already have I mean if they already have them they already
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have but honestly after the work that I've done I don't see myself going back to a nine to five
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um I do want to go to college and I do want to get my nursing degree because I do want to go and be a
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traveling nurse and help out in different countries and I don't think it really matters when you're
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going to be a nurse if you've done corn I don't see that as an issue because I'm I want to help
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well a lot of employers a lot of employers do and it will impact your prospects and if that if that is
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the case then that is the case but right now I'm trying to stack my money as much as possible and
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again invest in Airbnb properties that's wise of you yeah yeah and do as much as possible I don't want
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to waste my money on stupid stuff yeah I think it's dumb that a lot of women in the industry get into
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the industry and they are so they have never had that much money before so they go and buy
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designer purses designer shoes they waste all they waste yeah they waste all their money they spend it
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and they don't learn how to do their tax forms they don't learn how they don't learn how to write off
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things that they're paying for on a daily basis to keep up with their own their own like look like
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when you're when you're an OF model I can write off these nails every time I get them done I can write
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everything else do you own taxes or do you have CPAs I do my own I've I've because I did my business
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degree I actually like took courses and shit like that and I actually really really enjoy doing that
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I want to help more people do that when it comes to OF um but no I definitely have a plan for after
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I'm done with the industry that I'm in right now did you did you start in OnlyFans because you
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