Panel's THOUGHT On ANDREW TATE
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Summary
In this week's episode, we discuss the case of Andrey Tate, who has been charged with rape, human trafficking and human trafficking in Romania. We discuss the charges against him, the corruption involved in the case, and the implications for free speech.
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so andrew tate this week was charged with grape and human trafficking um so i want to start by
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saying do you guys think he's guilty or innocent based on the information you know
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i don't think i've followed it closely enough to give an accurate answer to that um but i feel like
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in some respects if you know this has been under investigation for quite a while he's been under
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house arrest and stuff like that i do feel like within that time they probably haven't have had
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enough time to compile a lot of evidence on that to sort of prove him to be guilty yeah it's like
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it's it's suspicious it's taken this long right yeah right exactly that's my take okay what's your
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take actually i've been following the case a bit uh closely lately but i i'm not in a position to tell
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whether he's guilty or not but just uh the um the i mean the charges are a bit uh non non non
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understandable to me because they said uh the he has been charged for something related to tiktok
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accounts and making money out of tiktok so this is really really uh funny for me so even what is the
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revenue that would be generated from a tiktok account compared to other businesses so this is
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a bit tricky yeah yeah because initially everyone thought it was from the cam work yeah right so
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everyone thought that was what they were accusing them of but now it is coming forward that everything
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they're accusing them of was in the last like year or two yeah so and they're saying they're forcing
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women to to make tiktoks and i know i know the payout on tiktok it's you don't make shit on yeah i mean
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that's that's a bit tricky for me okay like a government to to to i mean to charge someone
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with these kind of um um this charges basically okay go ahead nazarene i think what the majority of
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the public are forgetting is it's innocent until proven guilty so for me at this point
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he is innocent because he hasn't been proven guilty until they have evidence which shows him
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doing it it's concrete evidence which shows that he definitely is doing human trafficking and rape
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that's when i'll change my mind and say okay yeah he's guilty but for now he's innocent because
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if we're going by the standard of the law it's innocent until proven guilty and i think everyone
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has to remember that otherwise it gets very dangerous and it's definitely a breach of human rights and
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um it's it's a danger to free speech as well i think because if you can just if if you don't
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like what someone's saying and then someone else can go and make an allegation against them and then
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they get charged and imprisoned for something they didn't even do and they haven't been proved to do
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you know anyone can get imprisoned for just speaking about things that people don't agree with so
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uh it's tricky because um romania is just notoriously corrupt there's it's inevitable to
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to even come to any other conclusion and he does have a lot of money and when he sees the money from
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these people it goes to the politicians and the government and so um you know he doesn't have the
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most uh clean past as well because like he's done you know the cam stuff you mean like just the
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things he's been saying like i know he said it when he was a smaller content producer and so i guess
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that you know he wasn't really planning for that to be analyzed by hundreds of millions of people right
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you know what i mean i have a friend and um her and i pretty close and she's a romanian lawyer and
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she was looking at the say this whole case and she was telling me in her personal opinion it wreaks
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corruption and um you know she was she's working like in the legal system for romania and we
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actually pulled up the documents because this is all public information and the uh romanian judicial
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system so looking at circumstances um you know i i don't want to wish jail time onto anybody who
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doesn't deserve it and and entertain has been cool to me um so i just i mean my heart goes out for
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these guys my heart really goes out for these guys because they're in a bad spot you know but i mean
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he i mean it's just yeah it's just really bad to be honest with you i wish nothing about the best of
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these guys because i mean when you live in a country that is notoriously corrupt right there is a
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probability that that corruption will be used against you kind of like the whole censorship argument
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right now people like censor censor censor well inevitably that censorship will be turned and
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used on you so i just i hope and pray that these guys you know are going to be okay because it's
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really just terrible i would i would not wish that on well maybe my worst enemy but not my regular
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enemies i haven't um been looking at the case too briefly like i know the brief amount of stuff to
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know i've always kind of been a fan of andy tate so personally i don't believe it but if it is true
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then my heart goes out to the ladies the lady because i wouldn't wish anything like that upon
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anyone but personally i just feel like they they they let him off on bail was it or suspensions or
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whatever house arrest house arrest house arrest yes so they let him on house arrest and i don't know
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like there isn't really hardcore evidence is there and then they're trying to get him back into jail now
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i just feel like they're trying to do anything because in romania like the judicial system is
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pretty corrupt you you have six months to incarcerate someone and or put somebody on house arrest
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while you collect evidence against them in the united states i think you can only do it for 21 days
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you have 20 don't quote me on that but i believe that is what i heard myron saying uh because he's a
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former federal agent and i believe that the united states government they have 21 days to
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build a case against you and prosecute you so in romania now they have six months so
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now they're gonna have to go to trial and some people are saying this trial is going to be one
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to two years long so it's looking like the tates are going to be on house arrest for one to two years
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wow that's crazy and it's crazy because it's like all off of one girl's accusation or one two
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american woman who is cheating on her boyfriend
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oh really because yeah that that was the first thing that triggered the whole problem was
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that girl was in the tates house and her boyfriend caught her and then
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she was like oh well i'm being held against my will so the boyfriend called like i don't know if
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he called interpol or something but he called some kind of national organization
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you know some kind of uh police organization and then they went and then that was the first round
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of trouble for the tates and so you know it's just i don't know it's just terrible to just look at
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this whole situation you know because i mean that that's why you don't fuck around with uh
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people have girlfriends like you know like if she's just she says she's taken like just
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she's taken send her back out to the wild and if she's evil enough to betray her boyfriend she's
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evil enough to betray you you know it's bad news all around yeah can i interject slightly there
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wasn't one of the accusations also human trafficking as well so was this the same woman that has also
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said this or is this other accounts from other people because as i said i've not followed this it's a
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couple things i think is it's is it just three charges or is also forming a criminal organization
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wasn't it isn't it uh grape yeah human trafficking human trafficking and money laundering and forming
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a criminal organization so the criminal organization i believe is just they're saying that
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andrew tristan and then their assistants these four people are technically a criminal group right so the
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thing is a lot of times when the governments want you to be in trouble they will kind of like
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throw as many charges that like can stick on paper like in the state of florida if you get caught with
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marijuana right and it's a plastic bag they'll charge you for the marijuana charge and then
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they'll also charge you for drug paraphernalia and drug paraphernalia is the plastic bag that the weed is
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in and traditionally drug paraphernalia is like a crack pipe or heroin needle or something like that
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it's his prosecutors they they try to get as many charges as possible on people to kind of justify
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the spending that they're getting from the government be like look at us you know we're locking people
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up so i mean who knows these are the things they've been officially charged with now they're still
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gonna go to trial and they could win trial because they i heard that they have a really from my romanian
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lawyer friend she was telling me that they have a really good lawyer as well so you know still
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gonna go to to trial and knowing the tates you know they're gonna fight tooth and nail those guys are
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not weak men at all they're gonna fight tooth and nail so we'll see what happens