JustPearlyThings - November 15, 2023


Pearl And @christinegracesmith React To Myron's Controversial Take


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Length

9 minutes

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199.78859

Word count

1,890

Sentence count

196

Harmful content

Misogyny

26

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Hate speech

20

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Myron and Sneeko debate whether or not we need women to survive, and the flip side of the argument is that we don't need them at all. We don't even need them to survive if there are no women.

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00:00:00.000 Once you start to notice gynocentrism, which again, disrupts the natural order of the world. 0.97
00:00:05.280 Women amazing. 1.00
00:00:06.280 Women on a pedestal. 1.00
00:00:07.280 Yeah, women on a pedestal. 1.00
00:00:08.660 You start to notice who still has gynocentric thinking and who doesn't.
00:00:12.940 And this isn't like ever an attack on anybody.
00:00:15.520 I mean, at some point I've said gynocentric things.
00:00:17.980 You don't notice it until you see it, right?
00:00:20.800 And I saw this video of Sneeko and Myron debating whether we need women to survive.
00:00:26.120 Let's pull it up.
00:00:27.120 Yo, Myron is so fucking heterosexual, he's like, we don't need women to survive. 1.00
00:00:31.380 I'm like, well, you know, life is better.
00:00:32.880 He's like, we don't need them.
00:00:34.380 We don't.
00:00:35.380 It's the truth.
00:00:36.380 What's the point of even arguing for that?
00:00:37.800 Like, what's the point of living if there's no women? 1.00
00:00:39.920 There's no point.
00:00:40.920 I don't even need them to survive is the point.
00:00:44.280 But there's no point in living so you're not going to want to survive.
00:00:47.160 But you can survive without them.
00:00:48.320 Why would you survive if there were no women? 1.00
00:00:50.600 Why would you even do it?
00:00:51.720 There's other ways to derive pleasure where you don't need females. 1.00
00:00:56.920 Men are a luxury, bro.
00:00:57.920 Woo! 0.99
00:00:58.920 Okay.
00:00:59.920 So, I wanted to give a couple of different notes that I noticed.
00:01:04.020 He said there's no, I think he said something along the lines of there's no point to life
00:01:08.600 if there's no women. 1.00
00:01:09.800 Along the lines, yeah.
00:01:11.300 I would disagree because there have been very many influential men in history that have had
00:01:17.180 no women. 0.99
00:01:18.180 The logic.
00:01:19.180 Jesus.
00:01:20.180 There was no point to Jesus!
00:01:25.180 Yeah.
00:01:26.180 Sir Isaac Newton is another one.
00:01:28.440 There's actually great men in history.
00:01:30.180 Really?
00:01:31.180 Mm-hmm.
00:01:32.180 There have been great men in history that have died virgins because they believed that women 0.99
00:01:36.860 were a distraction and they were so focused on their purpose.
00:01:39.280 No, I think Myron is speaking the most facts here, but it's facts and it's true, but only
00:01:45.780 up until the end of your life.
00:01:47.280 Yeah.
00:01:48.280 Other than that, it depends what you mean by survive.
00:01:52.280 Survive until the day you die.
00:01:53.280 Absolutely.
00:01:54.280 There's other ways to get pleasure than from the women. 1.00
00:01:57.280 Sneeko's whole thing is very gynocentric in his thinking.
00:02:00.280 Yeah.
00:02:01.280 But the flip argument is like, okay, but if you want your species to continue, of course
00:02:09.280 you need women for that. 1.00
00:02:10.280 Yeah.
00:02:11.280 Other than that, I think the premise of the argument, the point that men these days seem 0.99
00:02:15.400 to have been put in a position because of the gynocentric culture, where they are told
00:02:19.800 women are this prize, women are basically the ultimate goal to life. 1.00
00:02:24.160 It's ridiculous.
00:02:25.160 Absolutely ridiculous.
00:02:26.160 Yeah.
00:02:27.160 And even, you don't even have a guarantee that your offspring will survive.
00:02:31.200 For example, George Washington, now people say that he had kids out of wedlock, so we
00:02:36.160 don't know this for sure.
00:02:37.160 Okay.
00:02:38.160 But on paper, he had no children.
00:02:39.160 Okay.
00:02:40.160 He still influenced history.
00:02:42.160 He had a wife and it's like by this logic, did he not have a life worth living because
00:02:48.340 he didn't have kids?
00:02:50.420 Because a lot of times it's insinuated that then the children, if it's not the women, then 0.97
00:02:53.560 it's the children.
00:02:54.560 You have to do it for the children.
00:02:55.560 Right.
00:02:56.560 But I'm like, no, they're…
00:02:57.560 And I don't think men have this naturally.
00:02:59.560 Not everyone reproduces.
00:03:00.560 I don't think men have this naturally where they put women on a pedestal.
00:03:05.240 Like when boys are young, they're still exploring.
00:03:07.560 They think women have cootie… 0.99
00:03:08.560 Yeah.
00:03:09.560 Like this isn't natural.
00:03:10.560 It's like the world has…
00:03:11.560 Women hold them back when they're young. 1.00
00:03:13.600 It's more like, oh, you know, I have to slow down because of the girls.
00:03:15.600 Yeah.
00:03:16.600 Like if you let men just… 0.93
00:03:17.600 Boys, if you let boys just sort of go and explore, they're very like… they will spearhead
00:03:21.600 the whole thing.
00:03:22.600 And so they say like, what is the point of living?
00:03:25.280 Well, I mean, I think if women weren't around… and obviously we need women. 1.00
00:03:29.600 Families are amazing and whatever.
00:03:30.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:31.600 But my point is the man's purpose has to come first.
00:03:33.600 Yeah.
00:03:34.600 And if a woman doesn't come along, I don't think it's like a life that's not worth living.
00:03:39.600 No.
00:03:40.600 Absolutely not.
00:03:41.600 They would have explored like the bottom of the ocean if there was no way.
00:03:44.600 Yeah.
00:03:45.600 That's the thing.
00:03:46.600 I'm like, guys would find something to do.
00:03:47.600 Of course.
00:03:48.600 They would build something.
00:03:49.600 You wouldn't have any Roombas or decorations.
00:03:50.600 They would just be like men exploring.
00:03:52.600 They'd be doing shit.
00:03:53.600 Yeah.
00:03:54.600 Thinking life isn't worth living without women is gynocentric thinking. 0.98
00:03:58.600 Many men that were very influential in history died virgins.
00:04:02.600 Facts.
00:04:03.600 Yeah.
00:04:04.600 South Side Rilla.
00:04:05.600 Sneeko is right.
00:04:06.600 That is not gynocentric thinking.
00:04:07.600 It is human thinking.
00:04:08.600 No, Sneeko is not right.
00:04:09.600 Sneeko is actually limiting himself to all the potential that he could have as a human being 0.87
00:04:13.600 because he's putting his ultimate drive in life down to, you know, the affection from women.
00:04:20.600 But it's like, there's so much more to life than that.
00:04:24.600 You know, it's nice.
00:04:25.600 Yeah.
00:04:26.600 Love can be a beautiful thing.
00:04:28.600 But I mean, look, come on, it's Sneeko.
00:04:29.600 He's probably not referring to love here.
00:04:31.600 Yeah.
00:04:32.600 There's so much, there's so much more.
00:04:34.600 Savage League says, that's an interesting perspective.
00:04:37.600 It's true that many influential people throughout history have achieved greater things without the presence of a romantic partner.
00:04:43.600 Yeah.
00:04:44.600 And I would say typically, and I just hate to, women are always, we are always going to come with emotional back. 1.00
00:04:49.600 Correct.
00:04:50.600 So even the pure virgin woman is still going to want to tell you about her day. 0.95
00:04:53.600 Correct.
00:04:54.600 She's still going to want to talk to you.
00:04:55.600 Like that's part of being in a relationship.
00:04:57.600 Yep.
00:04:58.600 And I think typically, a man that really outsources everything, that just gets a cook cleaner, is going to be able to accomplish more.
00:05:05.600 Because he's less tied down to other sacrifices, isn't he?
00:05:09.600 And I'm not saying life isn't all about you.
00:05:11.600 I think there's absolutely amazing things about sacrificing your life for a family.
00:05:16.600 But I think that we just say women are so special and amazing and awesome.
00:05:21.600 And men would not create and accomplish without women. 0.80
00:05:24.600 I don't believe that.
00:05:25.600 That's not true.
00:05:26.600 That's not true.
00:05:27.600 I think that their accomplishments and drive to do things comes from God.
00:05:31.600 And I think the natural order of the world goes God, men, women, children.
00:05:35.600 And when you say that life wouldn't be worth living without women, it's almost putting women at the equivalent of God. 0.99
00:05:42.600 Well, God gave Adam Eve as a helper, didn't he?
00:05:44.600 He didn't give her, he didn't create Eve first and then create Adam and say, you must do everything you can in life to impress this woman.
00:05:52.600 Exactly.
00:05:53.600 If you're going to look at it from a religious perspective, but even if you look at it from a non-religious perspective, you know,
00:05:59.600 the men who've achieved things in life, if we could look at all of the great inventions and the great innovations of our species,
00:06:05.600 and we could see that all of it was done out of the lusts for a woman, then, you know, I would have to agree with Sneeko's point.
00:06:12.600 But the truth is, like you say, that's not the case.
00:06:14.600 And actually, if we look at the men who have done probably the most influential things,
00:06:19.600 they've done it when they're in a position that they're not, I hate to use it, but for lack of a better term, tied down by a woman and a family. 0.91
00:06:26.600 Again, this is not to dispute the fact that there is great service and there is great admiration for people who do give and sacrifice for a family.
00:06:33.600 But let's not ignore the fact that it is a sacrifice.
00:06:36.600 You're having to give something up.
00:06:38.600 I can't remember who did this, but I know there was a guy who literally hid from his wife when he wanted to invent things.
00:06:44.600 And that's why I'm like, guys, you know, we're kind of a distraction.
00:06:49.600 And I'm not saying sometimes the distraction makes your life better, but it's still a distraction.
00:06:54.600 And I really think that men's purpose comes from God.
00:06:57.600 And that even if Eve never went into the garden, Adam still would create and explore.
00:07:02.600 And I just think that that is like God's gift in something he gave men.
00:07:06.600 And it's almost like when they're attributing it and saying life isn't living without women, you're almost attributing that thing that God gave you to women.
00:07:14.600 And I've noticed this, that when they describe motherhood, you almost describe it in a way that you would describe God.
00:07:20.600 And again, it goes back to the woman is like becomes the God of the family. 0.99
00:07:25.600 Kind of centrism.
00:07:26.600 Yeah.
00:07:27.600 Yeah.
00:07:28.600 That's really interesting.
00:07:29.600 Okay.
00:07:30.600 Ryan Deftly 7652 says, imagine the flip side where a man is loyal and faithful and providing a lifestyle to his wife for years.
00:07:39.600 And one day she randomly files for a divorce.
00:07:42.600 They would be livid.
00:07:43.600 What's the context?
00:07:44.600 Yeah.
00:07:45.600 Okay.
00:07:46.600 So last episode, I covered a story of a woman that was with a man for eight years.
00:07:50.600 He was with a professional.
00:07:51.600 He was a professional hockey player.
00:07:53.600 Okay.
00:07:54.600 He gets a contract in Russia and ghosts her, obviously, because he met a Russian woman.
00:07:59.600 I mean, I think that like this story writes itself.
00:08:02.600 Good luck.
00:08:03.600 I would just, you got to break up if your guys go into Russia.
00:08:06.600 I mean, good luck competing with those women were raised to be wives. 1.00
00:08:10.600 A beautiful, most of them all the way.
00:08:12.600 Imagine that's like, that's like sending.
00:08:14.600 Okay.
00:08:15.600 Imagine that's like playing a one-on-one game against LeBron James.
00:08:18.600 You might as well just not play.
00:08:20.600 You might as well just say, you know what?
00:08:22.600 If this guy, if this guy has a chance with these chicks. 1.00
00:08:26.600 Yeah.
00:08:27.600 Good luck.
00:08:28.600 And so he's saying, imagine the flip side where a man is loyal and faithful and providing
00:08:33.600 a lifestyle to his wife for years.
00:08:35.600 And one day she randomly files for a divorce because... 1.00
00:08:37.600 It's ironic, isn't it?
00:08:38.600 Because that's what we see all the time.
00:08:39.600 Yeah.
00:08:40.600 That's what we see all the time.
00:08:41.600 But her story went stupid viral because it was so unheard of.
00:08:44.600 Oh, right.
00:08:45.600 But we hear of this all the time.
00:08:46.600 Yeah.
00:08:47.600 For a man to do that.
00:08:48.600 It's so unheard of for a man to do that to a woman.
00:08:51.600 Yeah.
00:08:52.600 It goes super viral.
00:08:53.600 And it gets demonized even though women do it to men all the time. 0.95
00:08:55.600 All the time.
00:08:56.600 And it's just like, oh, she's empowered.
00:08:57.600 She's finding what she deserves.
00:08:59.600 Oh, bollocks.
00:09:00.600 Come on.
00:09:01.600 I saw a tweet that...
00:09:02.600 Or I tweeted this the other day.
00:09:04.600 I can't believe how many women have been on the show and have told me that they divorced, 0.99
00:09:09.600 broke up their family because they outgrew their husband.
00:09:12.600 Oh, I know.
00:09:13.600 I'm like...
00:09:14.600 Horrific.
00:09:15.600 Like, did you...
00:09:16.600 There's no respect there for that.
00:09:18.600 I'm like, did you...
00:09:19.600 Did you get a growth spurt?
00:09:20.600 Do you know what I mean?
00:09:23.600 Like, did you get a midlife...
00:09:25.600 I don't know.