JustPearlyThings - April 28, 2023


Pearl Gets Introduced to MGT0W Men Going Their Own Way PART 2


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In this episode of Just Pearly Things, I react to a recent comment made by a woman named Leslie Fetch about the MGTOW channel and how she feels about it. I also talk about the role of women in society and why they have more power than men.

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00:00:00.000 What up guys? Welcome to the Just Pearly Things YouTube channel. Today I am going to be reacting
00:00:06.180 to this channel called, I think it's called Sandman. It's a MGTOW channel and I just reacted
00:00:12.720 to something from them the other day and I thought it was really interesting so we're
00:00:16.140 going to react again. Before I start don't forget to subscribe to the channel and ring
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00:00:39.380 Hi everyone, Sandman here. I was originally going to cover a donation based video today
00:00:44.220 and I have a few of those to catch up on. But instead I decided to cover the topic of women
00:00:49.640 responding to MGTOW and what one particular woman has told me about MGTOW and how I've
00:00:55.060 responded to her. First I'd like to read a comment from this woman named Leslie Fetch.
00:00:59.940 She was watching some of my videos and this is what Leslie has to say.
00:01:03.660 These videos are weird as hell. I just randomly found this video and so just heard about MGTOW.
00:01:08.940 I think they're super sexist but in a misguided way rather than in a deliberately hostile way.
00:01:14.640 So rather than feeling like it's an attack against women, I feel like these certainly biased
00:01:19.160 due to a lack of male responsibility for shitty things, facts are presented in an emotionally
00:01:24.320 neutral way that comes across as very genuine. So in one way I'm concerned about the message
00:01:29.420 being sent, but appreciate the absence of hostility towards females. I am intrigued.
00:01:35.060 I mean I've seen scholarly articles like this except with the gender reversed where a woman 1.00
00:01:39.920 says men are nothing but problematic and then say in a very serious way that all women should 1.00
00:01:44.780 essentially become lesbians, at least until we can solve the oppressive gender dynamics. 1.00
00:01:50.360 These types of articles go on to say that sex with a man can be nothing but violent, which
00:01:54.700 is insane. I'm not saying that women aren't sometimes responsible for shitty things, but 1.00
00:01:59.280 I feel like these essentialist notions of gender, whether it be directed towards males or females,
00:02:05.440 are harmful to both sexes. Now I have a serious question. 1.00
00:02:09.020 See, okay, this, when you first listen to MGTOW, you get a lot of arguments like you're throwing
00:02:14.840 out the baby with the bathwater and you know that it's sexist, whatever. But when you really
00:02:20.160 think about it, the reason men are walking away is because the systems in place put women 1.00
00:02:26.260 in a position where they can, they basically have more power over men. Because if a man, you 1.00
00:02:31.280 know, even approaches a woman, he can get me too, right? If he takes a girl home and hooks 0.91
00:02:35.600 up with her, if he doesn't have CCTV like footage in his house, basically to exonerate him, she
00:02:40.920 can go back and say, Oh, he graped me. Like I talked to a guy the other day that he had
00:02:46.940 three kids or two kids with a girl and she accused him of graping her 10 years ago. Like
00:02:52.920 you know what I mean? It's like, so a lot of times, like the way I look at MGTOW is like
00:02:57.080 the guys are just like logically problem solving. Cause if they get married to a girl, have
00:03:01.420 a kid with a girl, she can put them on child support for life. She can put them on alimony. 0.96
00:03:06.700 So it's like, instead of dealing with women, the guys are just walking away until the systems
00:03:11.140 change. I don't actually think it's like oppressive towards women or hatred of women. Um, I just
00:03:18.080 think it's saying that these systems are wrong. You know, I could be wrong. You know, let me
00:03:22.080 know.
00:03:23.080 Speaker 2 And it does on the outside looking and you would never think that, but it's like
00:03:35.140 the more guys I talked to for this documentary, I'm like, God damn, damn. Like women do have 1.00
00:03:41.460 all the power in society. Like even politicians guys, like women will always use the argument 1.00
00:03:45.760 that politicians, um, are mostly men, but who are they catering to? The women. Um, who 0.97
00:03:51.560 is the media catering to? Women. Who are churches catering to? Women. Because women make 70 to 1.00
00:03:57.620 80% of consumer buying decisions. So all of society is catering towards women and you don't 1.00
00:04:03.520 see it right away. But once you see it, you can't unsee it.
00:04:06.080 Speaker 1 And how much responsibility would you say that men have in the messed up gender dynamics?
00:04:10.400 How do you explain all the men in high political and business positions hoarding money and power?
00:04:16.160 And do you believe in any aspect of the concept of patriarchy? I am a woman. I want to be educated
00:04:21.520 on your perspective.
00:04:22.460 Speaker 1 Okay. And this is the other thing. Like women, they always see men in the top 1.00
00:04:27.280 percentage of society hoarding money. But do you, like women have no idea what cost that 1.00
00:04:33.120 comes with to be in the top 1% of society. Those men don't have lives. They don't even have
00:04:37.840 time half the time to spend the money that they have. Um, but like women just see them 1.00
00:04:43.760 as super oppressive when really they're super, um, needed in society because they're, they're
00:04:49.120 the most, um, how do you say they're the most productive ones and you need productive members
00:04:54.320 of society. It's not women's like, it's not the men's fault that women are less productive 0.86
00:04:59.280 by and large.
00:05:00.280 Speaker 1 And I'm not trying to dismiss your perspective. I truly want to know. Well, Leslie,
00:05:04.940 are we sexist because we refuse to sacrifice ourselves for women and do things for ourselves
00:05:10.260 and by ourselves?
00:05:11.360 Speaker 1 Migtows aren't deliberately hostile, but instead we're more deliberately passive-aggressive.
00:05:16.380 And we're far from misguided. Taking the red pill is like seeing through the dense fog
00:05:20.080 of covert control and manipulation that women, the state, corporations and cultural institutions 0.98
00:05:25.520 put in front of men to keep us blind. Once we see through this fog, we realize that things
00:05:30.380 are deliberately made complex by women so that we as men can continue to jump through feminine 0.99
00:05:35.460 hoops our entire lives. What you're seeing on the internet, Leslie, is men finally talking
00:05:40.300 about the bondage that women have kept us under since the beginning of time. And now we're 1.00
00:05:44.560 free. And if you call our freedom sexist, then you're nothing more than a tyrant. You are
00:05:49.320 intrigued because we're being genuine, rational, and not angry about what we know. Many women
00:05:54.020 would throw a temper tantrum if they realized that someone was oppressing them the same way that
00:05:58.060 women oppress men. Many women have controlled our behavior by giving us sex only when we 1.00
00:06:02.780 behaved appropriately.
00:06:04.140 That's true. And that's why, guys, like a lot of, a lot of the conservatives get mad
00:06:10.640 when they say, a woman that makes you wait for sex is never worth the wait. Like that's 1.00
00:06:14.000 a big red pill, um, manosphere, I guess, talking point. And the reason they say that is because
00:06:20.140 you never want a woman that is using sex to control you. Like you have to do things in 0.99
00:06:24.760 order to get sex from her. Because then you're going to be constantly trying to appease her. 0.99
00:06:29.480 Where, it's like if it comes from a more genuine place of she's attracted to you, it's just
00:06:34.320 a better relationship dynamic. Like a lot of, a lot of the conservatives get so mad at that,
00:06:39.600 but I understand where they're coming from.
00:06:41.480 Based on what the female collective has agreed to be acceptable behavior, women dole out sex 1.00
00:06:46.140 to men, like dog treats. If we take you to a dinner party, or buy you that purse or flowers
00:06:51.420 that you've always wanted, then you typically reward us with your affection, love, and sex.
00:06:56.440 And if we don't, then what do you do? You put us in the doghouse.
00:06:59.980 MGTOW men accept that this is female nature. It's not a mystery to us anymore. And many
00:07:05.000 of us have seen it long enough to understand that this is female nature, and getting angry 1.00
00:07:09.100 about it is a complete waste of time. Do we get angry at a baby for pooping in its diapers?
00:07:13.780 Of course not.
00:07:14.780 He's kind of funny.
00:07:17.340 Do we get upset when it rains? Of course we don't. Instead, we carry an umbrella. And
00:07:21.980 for us, our umbrella is the internet. Our protection is our knowledge and sharing our wisdom with
00:07:26.660 each other. Leslie, you also say that in scholarly articles, many women writers say that men are
00:07:31.800 a problem. And they say that all women should essentially become lesbians. To me, these are
00:07:36.400 women that fear men, and fear our strength. If you've ever gone to a feminist rally, you'll 1.00
00:07:40.900 notice that there are many lesbians there trying to fuel the hatred of men, so that young and 1.00
00:07:45.420 naive women run into their arms. Into the arms of feminists. As men going our own way, we 0.92
00:07:50.460 are predominantly straight males. And we don't tell men to abandon women and shack up with
00:07:54.760 other men. And we don't try to manipulate each other in the same ways that these female 0.98
00:07:58.780 authors do that you're describing. Most of us have loved women, and for many of us, this
00:08:03.100 is a painful last step to accepting the fact that we have to let go of the dream called
00:08:07.780 love. A dream that is used to keep men, boys, for their entire lives. And society fears
00:08:12.380 real men, because a real man lives his life for himself and without regrets. MGTOWs feel 0.97
00:08:17.520 that society is keeping us unhappy and unsatisfied, so that we will basically be more productive.
00:08:22.900 But the truth is, we're even more productive when we're happy. Yet society fears our happiness.
00:08:28.100 At least you think that men are more than just violent when it comes to sex with women. And
00:08:32.160 some men can be rough in bed, and some women like that. But some men can also be lazy in
00:08:36.880 pushovers in bed. And some women hate that as well. It's a personal preference. You also 1.00
00:08:41.940 say that essential notions or stereotypes of gender can be harmful to both men and women.
00:08:46.640 Women are more collective in their way of relating to one another, men in society in
00:08:50.260 general. Because of that, women are more likely to fall into the cliches of stereotyping. 1.00
00:08:54.940 Men on the other hand, are more individualistic and lone wolves. So there tend to be more varieties
00:09:00.160 in our way of seeing the world. I agree that in some cases, stereotyping can be a bad thing.
00:09:05.020 But when most men have no idea about female gynocentrism, they need generalized information
00:09:10.040 to grasp the concepts. Talking about specific women is also something that I do by incorporating
00:09:14.900 personal stories that I've lived, and that other men around me have experienced as well.
00:09:19.340 And I've talked about the good as well as the bad. With regards to your serious questions
00:09:23.840 about MGTOW, first of all you ask if we support total gender segregation. Well, we don't
00:09:29.340 want total gender segregation. And many of us are content to occasionally date and have 0.63
00:09:33.500 sex with women. But we won't submit our lives, money, or change our behavior to accommodate 0.98
00:09:39.180 some of the ridiculous demands that women can put on us. And we seriously believe that 1.00
00:09:43.120 women have all the power, because they make up the majority of the voters. 1.00
00:09:46.500 Yeah. And that's, that's, oh my gosh. When I realized that, it was such a red pill moment
00:09:53.180 where I was like, wow, all of society is literally catering towards women. And I don't want to 0.99
00:09:59.780 say you don't know, I guess on some level you do, but you just don't really notice as a girl,
00:10:04.380 you're just like living your life. But it's like, once you see this stuff, you can't unsee
00:10:08.980 it. That's a crazy thing. And he's not made up of 50% males and 50% females. If men die
00:10:14.740 five years earlier than women, there are more female voters than male voters out there. So 0.99
00:10:19.940 therefore, women have more political influence than men. I recently spoke to a woman that didn't 1.00
00:10:24.460 agree with this when I brought it up. She thought it had to be 50-50, but it's not. This guy is so
00:10:29.800 smart. It's actually, this is really good content. This is like well thought out. And in some countries,
00:10:34.780 53 or 54% of the population is actually female. What about proportional representation for men
00:10:40.820 and women? I'm sure that will never fly making the male and the female vote truly equal. Leslie, 0.97
00:10:46.060 you also ask how much responsibility men should take for messing up gender dynamics. Men these
00:10:51.000 days are pussy whipped. No one likes a whipped man. Not other men, women, or even children. And no one
00:10:57.000 likes wimpy men either. So when men are manginas and white knights and try to help women and give them 0.58
00:11:02.140 what they want, they're actually messing things up for everyone else. Guys are irresponsible for
00:11:06.820 being nice guys. And MGTOWs are men and not manginas. One of my clients recently told me that I was an
00:11:13.120 alpha male and that I'm a man's man. And I told her that I've only been this way over the last year
00:11:17.660 and a half since I grew a pair of balls and saw women's behavior with my faculties of reason instead 0.99
00:11:23.260 of my emotions. Women, however, need to take more responsibility because they're the majority of 1.00
00:11:27.820 the single parents out there. Yeah, I think most problems in society are caused by women and simps. 1.00
00:11:35.160 That's my opinion. Yeah. I just think you can't really argue with it. He's right. Women are in 0.99
00:11:40.760 control of sex and women are the majority of single mothers. Like, you know, I used to get a little bit 0.99
00:11:48.120 offended by this, you know, when they say, well, women are the problem with the single parents. And I
00:11:53.980 would think, no, well, the men are sleeping too. Like it takes two until I realized that women are 1.00
00:12:00.260 100% in control of reproduction and women pick who they sleep with. So it's like, if you're picking 0.99
00:12:06.280 a guy that's not a good father, that's on the women. Yeah, it's our bad. Yeah. Ultimately responsible 0.98
00:12:13.380 for raising men and boys and thus creating a situation where those men become manginas and
00:12:19.220 harm the gender dynamics. Another question you ask is why are there so many men in high-up positions in business and politics? 0.64
00:12:25.840 Well, the answer to that is quite simple. Men make businesses and create as well as innovate. Women predominantly 1.00
00:12:31.580 manage and redistribute the wealth and innovation that men create. Men invent everything. 0.78
00:12:36.380 So why shouldn't they make the money and basically keep the power?
00:12:39.600 I'm gonna start saying that actually. That's a really good point. Men create everything. So of course they're gonna have the majority of the power
00:12:45.920 they built it. That's a really good point. Themselves. Google was founded by two men and Facebook was founded by a man too.
00:12:53.040 The steam engine was created by a man. And so basically what you're saying is that men should invent 0.98
00:12:58.580 99% of the things that we enjoy in our daily life, build their companies, and then hand them over to women. Men hoarding power and money 0.98
00:13:05.420 often do this because it allows them to attract and keep females that they find attractive. Money and power are also means to an end for most men.
00:13:12.740 If you want to be a communist, Leslie, where men give away their power, go live in Cuba or North Korea. 0.99
00:13:18.020 When men are stripped of their ability to hoard money and power, they stop inventing or caring because there's no point to working for free.
00:13:24.500 You also ask if I believe in any aspect of the patriarchy. To that question, my answer is, the word patriarchy is used to strip men of their rights by saying that a man has to share power equally.
00:13:34.860 Wow, that's such an interesting way to put it. The patriarchy, I'm going to say that, the patriarchy is used to strip men of their rights because they're saying they need to share power equally.
00:13:45.680 It's not about power. It's about responsibility. Men are responsible for making sure the roads, factories, buildings, and key infrastructure continues to function.
00:13:53.920 But women don't want to work in construction and road repair for the most part. And they don't want... 1.00
00:13:58.360 I don't. No, I do not. That is facts.
00:14:02.100 Responsibility. They want to work as city planners telling those road workers what to repair from the comfort and safety of a desk.
00:14:08.680 With regards to the fictional character Spider-Man, his uncle once said that with great power comes great responsibility.
00:14:14.840 And most women want great male power, but they want male responsibility. At least the majority of them don't want that. 1.00
00:14:21.940 Hopefully, I've educated you about what it means to be a MGTOW, as well as what it means to be a man. 0.79
00:14:27.680 But women will never truly know what it's like to be a man until they're forced to rely on themselves 100%. 1.00
00:14:33.860 Men don't get freebies and handouts from each other. 0.94
00:14:36.960 If I ask most of my friends to help me out on a project for free, they will often tell me to piss off.
00:14:42.760 However, if I offer them money, they'll be there on time.
00:14:46.100 Women have the privilege of using their beauty to ask men for free favors. 1.00
00:14:50.260 And there's always a white knight or a mangina out there to do those favors. 1.00
00:14:54.240 That is female privilege, and men will never have that. 1.00
00:14:57.500 That's real- that's so true. I've had- yeah, yeah, that's true.
00:15:02.040 I wish I could have female privilege, but I've never been able to work what my mama gave me, so to speak. 1.00
00:15:07.420 Try doing everything in your life without any help and see how that works for you.
00:15:11.120 Better yet, do everything for yourself and help the random guy here and there and do them a favor.
00:15:16.580 And then you'll see that it sucks to be the average guy in our society.
00:15:19.720 When many women ask me for favors, I tell them, it will cost you. 1.00
00:15:23.120 When I ask them for a favor, they often scatter and hide as quickly as possible.
00:15:27.460 And that's been my experience.
00:15:29.000 Men going their own way is about male liberation.
00:15:31.500 For the first time in history, we're free to do what we want, and we're no longer required to be providers.
00:15:36.740 Think of us as the Men's Liberation Society, or Front.
00:15:40.180 Anyways, thanks Leslie for your questions, and thank you everyone else for taking your daily dose of red pills.
00:15:46.440 So enjoy the rest of your day. Cheers.
00:15:48.840 Okay. I thought that was a good video, actually. He had some really good points.
00:15:52.720 And that's the thing, like, a lot of times there's this narrative that, like, the red pill, they're just angry, the MGTOW are angry.
00:15:59.920 Where it's like, you know, honestly, if you listen to some of these guys' stories about losing custody of their kids, getting falsely accused of things, you would probably be angry, too.
00:16:10.700 So, yeah, that's my opinion on it.
00:16:12.900 And I really don't think they're angry.
00:16:14.340 I think it's just, like, men are more logical than women. 1.00
00:16:17.100 So men are just, like, trying to solve a problem where it's like, in every way that they deal with women, there's a consequence. 0.69
00:16:23.180 You hire a woman, you might be sued for sexism later. 1.00
00:16:26.580 Yeah. You get a girl, like, you take a girl home to casually date her, whatever, she can me too you later.
00:16:35.160 It's like, you marry a girl, she can take half your shit. 1.00
00:16:38.560 And I'm not saying this to be pessimistic.
00:16:41.160 It's just, it is what it is.
00:16:42.440 And I think the MGTOW guys, they're just, like, logical.
00:16:45.840 And that's the solution they see.
00:16:47.300 I'm not saying everyone should do it.
00:16:48.900 I think it depends on the person.
00:16:50.680 But I was speaking to a guy from the documentary the other day where he got screwed over in divorce court with, he actually didn't even get married, just with getting custody of his kids.
00:17:00.960 And I said, I don't, it doesn't seem like there's any way to avoid this.
00:17:04.560 Like, he seemed to have picked a good girl.
00:17:07.020 She seemed to be nice enough, right?
00:17:09.840 And she still screwed him over.
00:17:11.640 And he basically said, no, there's no way to avoid it.
00:17:14.340 You just pick someone and hope for the best and hope she doesn't do that to you.
00:17:19.300 And that's a lot of power to give someone.
00:17:21.980 So that's what I think the MGTOW guys are. 0.95
00:17:24.040 They're just, like, logical.
00:17:25.520 And I think that's where there's a lot of, like, misunderstandings between, like, the conservatives and the red pill.
00:17:31.720 Because the conservatives are saying, well, this is how the world should be.
00:17:34.180 And red pill slash Manosphere slash MGTOW are saying, well, that's not what the world is.
00:17:41.500 We're here.
00:17:42.500 So let me know what you guys think in the comments.
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00:17:52.180 And I'll see you next time.
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