Pearl GRILLS Feminist With This Question
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss equal pay for women in sport, the pay gap between men and women, and why women should be paid the same as men in sport. We also discuss the Australian Women's Football Team's call for equal prize money for the upcoming World Cup.
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I am going to be covering my time on Pierce Morgan. So, you know, the last couple of months,
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you know, we had a lot of drama at JPT. We had a lot of people saying that it was just over for me
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and I was just going to cry back to Chicago. I've seen a lot of things. So I was just crying by
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myself and the Pierce Morgan team said to come back on the show. So I was excited because last
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time they just gave me such an easy layup that I was like, I would love to come back, bring me back.
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They told me I was going to come on to talk about equal pay in women's sports. So I couldn't wait
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being that I played semi-pro volleyball and I was actually, before YouTube took off, I was going to
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go play pro in, I don't know, I think it was going to do Portugal or something. I don't even remember,
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but, but I was going to go play pro. YouTube took off. I ended up not doing it. And, you know,
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I was just crying about how unfair it was because we just didn't get paid enough. I did play for 16
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years. So, you know, I just was crying and so sad that about the pay and I was just blaming the men.
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So I was like, let me come on and talk about how I'm just such a freaking victim and it's so horrible.
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So let's play the clip of me going on. This issue of women's rights to be paid the same as men
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in sport. Now, the Australian women's football team have criticized the pay gap in the upcoming
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World Cup prize money. Let's take a look at what they said as a team.
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736 footballers had the honor of representing their country on the world's biggest stage this
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tournament. Yeah, many are still denied the basic right to organize and collectively bargain.
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Collective bargaining has allowed us to ensure we now get the same conditions as the Socceroos
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with one exception. FIFA will still only offer women one quarter as much prize money as men
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for the same achievement. Well, okay. This is an interesting poll because if you look at the
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revenue, for example, in 2019, FIFA generated 586 million pounds in total revenue. The men's
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for the 2019-22 cycle, 5.8 billion record revenue through the men's World Cup. So the women's game
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has come on in leaps and bounds. The English lionesses, fantastic win, sell out crowds. They're making a lot
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more money. They're definitely way, way further now towards where the men are commercially than they were,
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but they're still a way off. And when you saw at Wimbledon, for example, the men's final was watched by
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three times as many people, and yet they were both free to wear on the BBC. You could watch both if
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you wanted to. So there was three times as much interest in the men's game. They play two sets
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more per match than the women do, and yet the women get equal pay. I'm not quite sure why. I don't think
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it's a matter of equality. It's just a matter of fairness, isn't it? Yeah, well, I won. I think all
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of the women should thank the men for funding our leagues because most of our leagues would not exist
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without the men, number one. Number two, when we have the same numbers, then we should get the same
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pay. I'm sorry, I play volleyball at the highest level, and it's like when we make what the men
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make and get the crowds that the men draw, then we should get paid the same. Why is it actually a
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fight for equality, Grace? I mean, if women in a particular sport, for example, turned out to
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generate more revenue because they were more watchable, and in America, the women's football team
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is better than the men, and they do generate, even at school level, far more interest from
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girls than boys, for example, I don't see why equality should be the aim. Why shouldn't they
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get paid more than the men? Well, look, I mean, there are all sorts of problems with the way that
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this market for labor, and it is basically a market for labor, works. Like, I personally don't think
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that the top football players in the world should be paid as much as they do. I think it's ridiculous,
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the amount. That's market force. Exactly. It's market forces. Why shouldn't they get that? Should
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that be the way that we decide, you know, who generates what is that? Personally, I'm very much
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in favor of the fact that they came out there and said collective bargaining. Ultimately, like,
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the average worker in this country hasn't had a pay rise in over a decade. How is that going to
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change? That's going to change when they organize with one another. I'm so tired of women whining.
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Mate, the only person whining at the moment is here. The men, the men, the men, literally, the men fund our
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leagues, and we will still whine that we don't get paid enough. And honestly, when athletes do shit
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like this, it makes all of us look bad. Because instead of being thankful for the league that we
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have, we go out and whine and complain about the pay. I mean, as I said, I'm not whining. You sound like
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you're maybe doing a bit of whining. But like, personally, I don't think we should be whining.
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I think people should be organizing. If you want a pay increase, join a union, get out there and
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fight for it. Should the women footballers get the same as the men? Yeah, I think it probably
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makes sense. What do you mean it makes sense? What? Okay. Number one, this woman is the queen
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of whining. If you look like she's coming on this show and you'll see, and she whines about
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the topic. Ultimately, like, it's not going to change. It's not going to change unless
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they organize. That's actually true across every sector. If you want to pay, join a union
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and fight for one. Let me ask you this, though. They have got unions.
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Exactly. Let me ask you this. On talent alone, for example, as a yardstick, the U.S. women's
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football team were beaten by a group of under-15 boys from Texas, right, who were very good
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under-15 boys, but they're under-15 boys' team. Beat them, I think, about 8-9-0 or something.
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So why should women footballers, who are clearly nowhere near as good as their male counterparts,
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just technically, why should they get paid anything like as much money?
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Well, I mean, you know, it sucks, doesn't it, that, like, as a woman – okay, you play
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volleyball. I'm a surfer. I absolutely love surfing. It's very hard for women to build
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up a body strength. This is something that I've learned very much the hard way.
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And so, you know – Surfers, by the way, there is equal pay.
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Yeah, there is. And actually, you know, it's one of those sports where –
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Well, it's different. It's a different sport, really. It's not – you know, it is the same
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sport, but it's very different watching a woman's surf than it is watching a man's surf
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because, you know, the average male body is different from the average woman, like,
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But is there any actual technical reason why a woman can't do with a surfboard what a man can do?
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Yeah, there's – I mean, there's loads of reasons. Like, it's about the upper body strength.
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It's about, like, the way that the body is built.
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So should women surfers at the elite level get the same as men?
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But, like, again, I think it's – it just is different. Like, it's a different kind of game.
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No, I just think, well, if we start making the same amount of money as the men,
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I don't hear the men whining about OnlyFans models getting paid more than them.
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I don't hear the men whining about models getting paid more than them.
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Kendall Jenner is the highest-paid supermodel. Where are the male supermodels?
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But whenever men dominate in an industry, women will just complain.
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I mean, I don't know if that's true about OnlyFans, because there are a lot of men on OnlyFans as well.
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Why does she talk about things she does not know?
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She literally said – she says, oh, well, men make the same.
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And I ask her, I'm like, so you think they make the same?
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Well, then why are you – why is her gut reaction to argue with me instead of seek what is true?
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It's like she's so blind in her ideology that I would know ten times more about playing in a professional level than she would.
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Yet, she's lecturing me and saying that we should get the equal prize money as the men, even though she knows nothing.
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You know, I don't know much about the World Cup.
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So, before the show, I was like, let me Google this.
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Let me see – let me see the differences in the money.
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The men bring in almost $7 billion from the World Cup.
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Yet, we deserve equal prize money, and we still get like a third of their prize money.
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And the funny thing is, we're literally stealing money from the men.
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A small percent of men will say, all right, fine, let's give the women what they want.
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Let's take a little bit of the money from the men and give it to the women.
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And I guess the men are making so much money that they're not really paying attention.
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But, honestly, if I was a man, I'd be pissed off.
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I'd be pissed off that women keep taking the money that they earn to fund our leagues, to fund jobs that we don't need.
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And, in return, instead of being thankful, they become man-hating feminists who whine and complain.
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The other thing she said, she said, oh, I think you're whining.
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We just watched a 10-minute video of women whining about their pay.
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If you don't like the pay, we all know, this is what irritates me, we all know what we're getting ourselves into.
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When we go into women's sports, we all know that it is not a high-paid job.
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You know this from the time you're like 10 years old.
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I think it's actually unfair to the men because they keep having to pay for our shit.
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Now, I could actually, I was thinking about this.
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I could see us making money if they added in, like, drama.
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Kind of like they do to the UFC where everyone's, like, fighting.
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Like, if they added social media to volleyball, I'm like, I could see maybe them making money off of that.
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Like, the rich, you know, the rich soccer moms.
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Like, it's totally a thing, rich volleyball moms.
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But my big issue is that instead of being thankful, we whine and complain when we could not even exist without the men funding our leagues.
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And a feminist who clearly, like, does she know anything about women's sports?
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And then she has the audacity to talk about what topic we should talk about on Pierce Morgan's show.
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Imagine going on to someone else's show and not liking the topic they have for their show.
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The point that I came on here that I wanted to make was that the problem that we have in our economy at the moment is not that, like, the average football player isn't played the same as the average man.
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And I'm glad that they're organizing and working together to fight for that.
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So through her worldview, through the lens, she doesn't care about the numbers.
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Like, why is she so confidently talk about something she does not know?
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Gideon just recently released a YouTube video of him at a WNBA game.
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And he had YouTube videos at an NBA game and a WNBA game.
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And literally, like, it was so sad to watch the level of crowds at the highest level.
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Now, look, you know, I've played in volleyball games where we had a full stand and it was really fun.
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But to act like that's the norm in women's sports, it's just not.
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And we can either whine and complain or we can try to figure out ways to be more entertaining.
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Nobody's getting paid enough money because inflation's eroded people's wages.
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Even before that, no one had a pay rise in a really long time.
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And the lesson from this is, as I've said, I'm going to say it again because it's an important lesson.
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And no one knows about them anymore because they see them as a hangover from 1970s.
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Join a union because otherwise your boss isn't going to walk away.
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OK, but just as a general point, though, the principle you think that women should get paid the same,
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even if they're not as technically as good and not producing as much revenue.
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Well, it's a subjective judgment, isn't it, on whether or not they're like technically as good.
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People watch men and women for different reasons.
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If you made it non-gender specific, how many women would win medals?
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I mean, maybe in equestrian and maybe in shooting, I think, where there's no sense that the men might win.
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You can say like, oh, you know, this group is better than this group.
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And in most cases, Grace, more people, men and women, want to watch men play sports.
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And my point is, if it changes, I don't see why equality should be the only ambition for the women.
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If it turns out that in some sport, women get more viewers watching and therefore draw more revenue, I'm all for them getting more money than the men.
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We would get equal pay if we would just get the support from the feminine.
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I don't even think I can name five female athletes.
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The first one that comes to mind is Riley Gaines.
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The second one that comes to mind is that Brittany Griner chick.
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Like, I just, we don't, and I'm a female athlete.
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I played college volleyball, college basketball.
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Now, if I think of male basketball players, to be fair, the only ones I do know are because
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I saw this guy play at the Bulls a couple years ago.
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And I, and guys, I don't even, I have never, I don't even think I've ever watched a full
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I literally don't think I've ever watched one outside of, like, at my college, like,
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I, I don't even watch sports, and I can name, I can name five.
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This feminist fighting for our equality, fighting for our prize money, doesn't even support us
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I wish that she would just help us break the glass ceiling and support us.
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But none of these feminists are ever in the fan, in the stands.
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None of these feminists are ever spending their Saturday supporting the team.
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And I know this because there's a professional team that plays, um, that plays in England that's
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They're one of the best basketball teams I have ever seen.
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They're probably in the top, like, 0.25% of skill for women's sports.
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Now, I can whine and complain and say, oh, boo-hoo, poor me.
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Or we could just say it is what it is and learn to be more entertaining.