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- July 22, 2023
Playboy Confronts Pearl With This Question
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10 minutes
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210.29411
Word Count
2,288
Sentence Count
301
Misogynist Sentences
20
Hate Speech Sentences
18
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Okay, Mr. Tinder.
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Can I ask you a question?
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Depends on what it is.
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I want to know what you define cheating as first.
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Like, what is cheating to you?
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Because everyone sees cheating as a different thing,
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so I want to know.
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You're kind of ahead of me.
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That was going to be my next question.
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But let's, for now, make it physical.
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Physical cheating.
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Kissing.
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Kissing or further?
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Yeah, is it deceiving someone behind their back,
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or is it doing it?
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When they know about it.
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Oh, so she knew.
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She was like, I can't lock Mr. Tinder down.
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In that case, no.
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Okay, so you've had, like, an open relationship type thing.
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No, not at all.
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No, I've had girlfriends, and I've been single.
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Wow.
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I need to understand.
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Okay, okay.
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So you've had a girlfriend.
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I've had a few.
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Yeah, yeah, I've had a few.
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And so.
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To be honest with you, like, everyone sees cheating as a different thing.
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So I'm trying to find out what cheating is to you.
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Yeah, so I need to say.
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Yeah, so I'm something physical.
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Physical.
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While you're with someone.
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Yeah, but if they know about it, then it's not cheating, is it?
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Yeah, I would agree with you.
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It's not cheating if they know about it.
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But so my question is, like, so you did, like, a one-sided open relationship, where it was, like, open on yours?
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Yeah, I could say that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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At first, yeah.
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And I was a bit of a playboy, to be fair.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I was quite bad.
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Used to party and stuff.
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Drink a lot.
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Used to?
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Yeah.
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I'm good now.
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I'm really good now.
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I'm a settled man and stuff like that.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, I would say, yeah.
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Do you know what?
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Most of my girlfriends cheated on me.
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So I found that as a good excuse to cheat on them back.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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I was quite good.
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Like, if I said I'm in a relationship with someone, I'd be like, right, I'm in a relationship.
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But then they'll cheat on me.
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And I'm like, right, I'm going back to Stefan now.
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And I told them about it as well.
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But yeah.
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Okay.
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And there'd be, like, girls to meet.
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Like, my girlfriends were so sly about it as well, but I'm quite clever.
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What do you mean?
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I'm intelligent.
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Like, when it comes to, like, dating, I'm, like, super intelligent.
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Hence, where I got where I got, right?
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Okay.
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I'm like the modern-day hitch.
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So I'm like a detective in love.
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Do you know what I mean?
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So, yeah.
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I found them, like, hard.
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And they still deny it.
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It's so funny.
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How would you catch them cheating?
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There's various things.
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So, like, it's like, so they would ask me questions.
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The biggest one is I'll go out.
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Obviously, I'm a model.
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So I'll go out.
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I'm on TV as well.
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So I'm going to take pictures with people in a club.
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Why are you taking photos with them, right?
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Well, obviously, if I go out, someone's going to take a photo of me.
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So I know if they're asking me that question, I'm like, I'll wait for them to go out.
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And then I'll go and tag photos and stuff and see them in photos.
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I'm like, why are you taking photos and why are you even asking me?
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So that would be the first thing.
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If someone asks you a direct question, you have a direct answer.
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But normally, they don't.
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So then I sort of like, if you're asking me a question, then what's the reason that you're answering it?
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Oh, so you're saying they were projecting?
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Mostly.
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Because they were cheating.
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It's like, where have you been?
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And they clearly know where you've been.
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So it's like, when someone asks the whereabouts or why you're doing something, it's normally because they're asking for themselves.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Can I have an example?
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I'm sorry.
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Can I have an example?
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So they would be cheating with the guys they took pictures with?
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So for example, they'd be like, why are you taking photos with someone?
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That's normal.
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So to me, that's normal.
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Right.
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But then they would do it.
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So I'm like, if you find, if that's a problem to you.
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Then they're doing something.
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And you're doing it, then you must be cheating on me.
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And then I'd go in.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Is that like, who are you texting?
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That kind of question.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like, who are you texting?
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Or like, where's your phone?
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Or do you know what I mean?
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Like, then you're doing, you're hiding something.
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So that's normally how I found out.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm quite open in me.
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If I'm texting a girl, mate, I'll just say it.
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Or if I'm taking a phone.
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Even if I've gone back to an after party and there's five, six girls in with my mates, I'll say it.
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And then they go out.
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And the fact they've asked me, and I've told them, I'm like, why are you doing it then?
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So then you dig deeper.
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Do you know what I mean?
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I end up getting hurt.
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But there you go.
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That's me.
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So how did you find out?
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Did you message the guys that she was taking pictures with?
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No, no.
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I'd never messaged.
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Looked through her phone?
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Like, how'd you get hurt?
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Do you know what's funny?
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Like, because I've been in the limelight quite a while, they start messaging me.
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They start liking photos.
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Like, you see them connect.
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Because I do social media as well.
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Like, you just see the network happening.
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So, and also, if they've been out, if an ex-girlfriend's been out on a night out or whatever,
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like, you can see who they've been with because they start following them and stuff.
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Do you know what I mean?
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And like, oh, they're in Bournemouth.
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Oh, they're in Mayfair.
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And it all lines up.
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And you're like, oh, okay.
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And then you sort of watch it for a while.
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And they're like, oh, you're cheating on me.
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So, yeah, that normally happens to me.
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Have you ever been wrong?
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Sorry.
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Have you ever been wrong?
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Assuming they have.
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Do you know what?
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Like, I haven't, I've always, I've always known my whereabouts.
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I've known they've been, like, if someone's been with someone, they've not said they've
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been with them.
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To me, that's cheating.
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Whether it's physical or not.
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Like, if you ask someone a question, they'd be like, oh, who was you with?
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Was you with, like, so, was you with four guys?
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Did you go back to that house?
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The fact they didn't say that to you is cheating to me.
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What's your definition of cheating?
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Oh, deceiving someone behind their back.
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So, does it have to be physical?
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Not at all.
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Not at all.
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Just, just, just, yeah, just, like, yeah, go on.
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By that logic, if a girl lies about her body count, is it cheating?
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Because she's deceiving you?
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Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
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I'm like, well, just be open, because I go in at the beginning.
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I'm like, yeah, I'll just go, and they go, yeah, 20.
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And then you find out, oh, this, you found out 20 in the space of a month.
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So, you're like, where's that 20 come from, then?
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Is it 40?
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And where's the other 20 on top?
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So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I wouldn't even want to know that body count.
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No, I wouldn't.
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I wouldn't know.
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Because they ask you.
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If they ask me, and I'm honest about it, it just makes me want to be dishonest going forward.
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But my thing with body count is, how can you ever really know who's telling the truth?
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Like, you can't.
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Yeah, but if you say, like, 10, and you're 30 years old, like, you know something.
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If I haven't started sleeping with people until I'm, like, 27, 28, then, of course, that number can be.
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But what if you're with someone, and you find out they've been with 12 people after?
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That's what I'm saying.
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How do you, you can't always find out.
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You can tell, just based on.
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How can you tell?
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Because the women that have slept with more people are more bitter, because their life are, yeah.
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I feel like that's quite a general thing to say.
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But it depends.
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I disagree on that.
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I'm not saying it's 100%.
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Yeah, that's my point.
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Women slip up, it always comes out.
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Yeah, look, the thing is, like, 2 off, 4, 5, 10, whatever.
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But when you're, like, 50 off, or 100, then there's a problem.
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But that's my point.
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Do you know what I mean?
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I don't think we can ever tell.
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What, 50 or 100 off?
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No, no, no, no.
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I'm saying everybody's body count.
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So if I was to say right now that my body count's 10.
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What is your body count?
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There's no physical way.
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What is your one?
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You're going to say no way.
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But you haven't answered my question.
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You wouldn't be able to know if I'm lying or not.
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If I've gone higher or if I've gone lower.
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That's the, like, there's no concrete.
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Yeah, but I just think the truth comes out.
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It comes out in the end.
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It does.
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I'll give you an example.
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Because, like, I've had hundreds of women come on the show.
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It's, like, one girl will say something on the podcast,
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but eventually I hear about someone she slept with.
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But again.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So it's, like, people have reputations.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like, shit comes out about people.
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I don't think it's that connected.
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Oh, yeah.
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I don't think, you know.
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You know what?
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You know what?
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It's not the number.
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You would be surprised.
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I'll get different show guests.
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Come on.
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And then, like, some guy will be, like,
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oh, I slept with that one, that one, that.
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Like, it's like.
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What?
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But he could be lying.
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Exactly.
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That's my pledge.
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You can never ever completely tell.
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You won't completely tell.
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But then when it's, like, three guys have the same story,
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you're like, okay, God.
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That's bias.
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That's bias.
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Oh, my God.
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Oh, my God.
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No, no, no.
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But you can tell guys cap, too.
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Guys cap about money.
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That's the biggest thing.
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Guys will be like, oh, I have this company.
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And we'll look it up.
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It's dissolved.
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It's interesting to say that because statistically,
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men are, men are, men lie more about their body count,
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their women.
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Like, they will not, not just lie, not just lie,
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sorry, just this point, not just lie,
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but they, they are the ones that notch it up.
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So, men, yeah, exaggerate.
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Women.
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Men exaggerate.
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Yeah, men.
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It's statistically.
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I never exaggerate.
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It's online.
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You can look it up.
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It's men.
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Statistically, men exaggerate.
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No, I don't think that.
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So, it's hard to know what body count you actually have.
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Men will try and clear.
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But it's statistics.
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It's not my opinion.
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No, that's not true.
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That was written by a woman.
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Let's just, let's just, well, there's two problems, okay?
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One, feminists have ruined, like, all data.
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They infiltrated school, yeah, yeah.
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They infiltrated schools in the 1970s and 80s.
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But, but I will say, men do lie.
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I would agree.
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Men tend to lie up.
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Women tend to lie down.
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Because it makes sense in society.
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But who, who lies more, men or women?
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Oh, no.
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No, they both lie.
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That's a tricky question.
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They both lie.
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It depends.
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It depends on the circumstances.
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Exactly.
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Reperfumans.
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Reperfumans.
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I'm this show, I'm banning a word.
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I'm banning a word.
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There's no, it depends.
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There's no, no, no, no.
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There's no, it depends.
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It's, you gotta pick one side.
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What about kinder?
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What about kinder?
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No, no, go on.
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I think women have more, lie more, for sure.
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Because they suffer more judgment.
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Yeah.
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I think women suffer more judgment from the guy.
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And usually, it's always the, mostly the guys asking the girl.
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Her body counted the way around.
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Yeah.
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Because usually we presume that the guy is left with a lot of girls.
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You're with the wrong guys, babe.
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Of course, that's why I broke up with them.
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But you need to understand something.
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Men and women lie for different reasons.
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So you cannot determine who's lying more.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So men lie about the money because guess what?
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It works.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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True.
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There's no lies.
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It's facts.
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It's not nice, but women like, we lie about the things that society finds simple.
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And women lie about their body count because it works.
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Yeah.
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Not to me.
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It's so simple.
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In all honesty, I think women lie more because it's like, we have the filters on Instagram.
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We have the caked on makeup.
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We have the BBLs.
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But again, men have the cards.
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So they've got the clothes.
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They've got the men have the steroids.
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I'll tell you.
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I'll tell you.
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I've just had so many people come on the show.
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It's like so many girls come on.
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They'll follow me on Instagram.
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And I'm like, who is that?
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And they don't look like they're pictures.
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Yeah.
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That's true.
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Men, it's just not the same.
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They don't do it as much.
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They do lie about money.
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I will say that.
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But when it comes to looks, come on, women lie way more.
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I mean, I guess in a way, yes, it's just more socially acceptable with women.
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