JustPearlyThings - June 24, 2023


Plus Size Man ATTACKS Personal Trainer


Episode Stats

Length

12 minutes

Words per Minute

191.51945

Word Count

2,302

Sentence Count

203

Misogynist Sentences

22

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

In this episode, the guys debate if fat women in bikinis are not attractive to men. Is there a weight limit for a fat woman in a bikini? Do you think a guy would be attracted to a woman with a smaller waist or a bigger bum?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I can't speak for all men, but I would say majority of blokes wouldn't find fat women in a bikini attractive.
00:00:06.700 Does it depend on what her shape is like?
00:00:08.260 Can we get a consensus from the guys?
00:00:10.920 Actually, I'm just, there's five guys in the room, six.
00:00:14.500 So, who here would disqualify a girl from dating her just based on her weight?
00:00:19.980 Yeah, 100%.
00:00:20.640 Yeah, 100%.
00:00:21.520 So, you wouldn't, you would, so.
00:00:23.640 That and confident.
00:00:25.000 Who's not confident here?
00:00:26.040 King, would you, would you disqual, would you disqualify a girl based on her weight?
00:00:31.680 Yeah.
00:00:32.080 Yeah.
00:00:32.460 What is that weight limit?
00:00:33.140 I'd be so interested to know what that weight limit is.
00:00:35.300 Would you disqualify a guy if he was fat?
00:00:39.080 Yeah.
00:00:40.800 But I have dated a bigger guy before, but yeah.
00:00:44.140 Oh, Pearl.
00:00:46.140 I have.
00:00:46.500 You're so nice.
00:00:47.260 Well, yeah, but it is.
00:00:47.780 So, that's 100%.
00:00:49.560 You famously dated a bigger guy, Pearl.
00:00:51.560 That's five out of five.
00:00:52.380 I'll take that.
00:00:52.880 Small sample size.
00:00:53.880 I'm sorry, I'm a number.
00:00:54.920 Statistically significant, though.
00:00:56.220 I'm a numbers person, so no matter what, if I'm with you on your numbers, then right.
00:01:00.860 But go for gold.
00:01:01.740 If you enjoy wearing a bikini, go for gold.
00:01:04.960 That buds are in.
00:01:06.280 I'll just let you say that.
00:01:07.540 Yes, they are.
00:01:08.400 They are.
00:01:08.580 We're not talking about weight, are we?
00:01:09.860 So, what is the weight limit?
00:01:11.060 Like, is it if a woman is, I don't know, I don't know.
00:01:13.420 It's just aesthetically appealing.
00:01:15.100 Okay, so for a fat woman, it's about shape, right?
00:01:17.540 If she had a tiny waist, she was buxom, and she had large thighs and a big bum, you would
00:01:21.580 be like, yeah, she's rocking that.
00:01:23.000 But if she was rounder, like more of an apple shape, then you'd be like, yeah, you need
00:01:27.140 to go cover up.
00:01:27.260 I'd say there's tears.
00:01:28.480 I'd say there's tears for sure.
00:01:29.680 I mean, if you look at Nicki Minaj, you'd go, oh yeah, okay, I could see her in a bikini,
00:01:33.400 wouldn't mind that.
00:01:34.480 She's probably a bit larger than the average individual.
00:01:36.940 But an obese woman in a bikini, probably not everyone's cup of tea.
00:01:40.380 Would you go up to her and ask her what the fat around her heart is like if she looked
00:01:44.580 like her?
00:01:44.940 I would judge her based on how she looks.
00:01:48.060 If she looks unhealthy, probably disqualifies her.
00:01:50.660 That's probably fair.
00:01:51.840 How long have you been a personal trainer?
00:01:53.120 Can I ask?
00:01:53.660 Yeah.
00:01:54.080 How long have you been a personal trainer?
00:01:54.820 How long?
00:01:55.300 Yeah.
00:01:55.760 I'm just qualified, but probably since 2018.
00:01:58.880 Yeah.
00:01:59.500 So three of my latest Instagram posts sent me in a bikini, in different bikinis, and they
00:02:04.660 all did absolutely fine.
00:02:05.760 They have lots of comments telling me how great I look, and I think I look great in them,
00:02:09.320 you know, and I'm an obese one.
00:02:11.320 So do your clients trust you?
00:02:12.720 Is that an echo chamber?
00:02:13.780 Do your clients trust you?
00:02:15.820 Do your clients trust you?
00:02:16.960 I would think they would, yeah.
00:02:17.840 And what's the biggest client you've had, like the biggest weight?
00:02:21.220 I'd say I mainly train guys, but just I would say the average probably like 100, 110 kilos.
00:02:29.920 I'm sorry that you listen, you need to do more personal training because until you make
00:02:34.780 a big person lose weight, you're like a big, big, big person lose weight.
00:02:39.060 Well, actually, there's some-
00:02:40.000 How, could you think about it, man?
00:02:41.620 Come on.
00:02:42.260 Yeah.
00:02:42.960 Personal trainer, their job is to help people.
00:02:45.500 No, but the issue is even when you lose weight, 80% of fat people regain it within five years.
00:02:53.320 And sorry, I didn't mean to dis you because I'm not here.
00:02:56.440 I don't want to come, but for real, a personal trainer, it's all about actually helping and
00:03:01.980 encouraging others, and you need to actually set an example and be the example.
00:03:05.460 No, but check this.
00:03:06.260 No, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:03:07.060 But you see with the personal trainers, yeah, how long do you spend with your client?
00:03:13.040 An hour, if that.
00:03:14.820 An hour, if that.
00:03:15.920 So if any more time, you work twice a week, three times a week.
00:03:19.780 So then how am I going to control your life or make you lose weight or motivate you if
00:03:24.020 you're not even committing yourself to losing weight yourself?
00:03:27.840 And a lot of women just get a personal trainer as a counsellor.
00:03:31.920 There are so many personal trainers that I know.
00:03:34.240 Wait, say that again.
00:03:35.100 I've heard a lot of women just get personal trainers as a counsellor.
00:03:37.840 They go there, tell them all their problems.
00:03:40.380 They're not really there to lose weight.
00:03:42.000 Wait, wait, really?
00:03:42.760 So, I mean, what he's saying is it's on the individual.
00:03:48.980 You have to have some responsibility.
00:03:50.520 A personal trainer can't babysit you.
00:03:52.200 Hey, what are you eating?
00:03:53.160 Monitoring.
00:03:53.540 They can encourage you all they want.
00:03:54.600 But then how do other personal trainers help other big, big people lose proper weight?
00:03:58.860 Like, I know my friends went really small.
00:04:02.060 I think if there's less of a body positivity movement, like more big, big people.
00:04:07.540 It's more like more positive attitude needs to be promoted by personal trainers in general.
00:04:12.760 Not him, but in general.
00:04:14.160 Because when you go to a gym, what is it?
00:04:16.860 It's personal trainers that are meant to be saying you're in a gym.
00:04:20.080 Well done.
00:04:20.660 You've made it.
00:04:21.420 You usually sit at home, eating, whatever.
00:04:23.920 You're in the gym.
00:04:25.000 Let me help you.
00:04:25.780 But no, it's the opposite.
00:04:26.880 Those are PTs with structure.
00:04:31.780 Because if I started training you, I already motivated you from the start to start training.
00:04:36.500 And if every, let's just say week or two, you are checking your numbers.
00:04:39.800 And every week or two, you're actually getting results from these numbers.
00:04:43.520 That's motivating you to come to the gym more, to be there more, to eat healthier, to do more.
00:04:49.080 It's because you are getting better every single day.
00:04:52.580 It has nothing to do with the PT.
00:04:54.700 It has nothing to do with how much you show up.
00:04:57.440 It's about what you're doing behind my back.
00:05:00.060 It's all up to you.
00:05:01.960 You are your own motivation.
00:05:03.840 And when I show you these numbers, and you see every two weeks or month that, listen, I dropped four kg in, let's just say, one month.
00:05:11.460 That should motivate you to do more.
00:05:14.480 It's all in the numbers.
00:05:16.020 It has nothing to do with mental health and our lifestyle and all this and all that bullshit.
00:05:20.020 No.
00:05:21.160 It's all in your numbers.
00:05:22.860 That's just my opinion.
00:05:24.740 And when I show that to my clients, they're motivated to do more.
00:05:29.620 They're motivated to lose more.
00:05:31.680 It's because they see that they're improving themselves by showing up and doing what they have to do.
00:05:36.020 And showing that consistency, that's all that's important, to be honest.
00:05:41.680 You know what, yeah?
00:05:42.540 You keep on dropping this word motivation.
00:05:44.340 I hear motivation a lot in this podcast.
00:05:46.760 But a lot of people lose motivation very quickly.
00:05:49.700 And what it is, is actually discipline.
00:05:52.240 Discipline to get you to your goals.
00:05:53.780 A lot of people are not disciplined.
00:05:55.720 A lot of people are not consistent in their goals either.
00:05:58.140 So a lot of people are consistently doing nonsense.
00:06:00.860 So it's just like, stay on point.
00:06:03.340 But how are you going to do it?
00:06:04.580 Unless you're stuck in your ways, you need to break the cycle, you know?
00:06:08.380 And a lot of people aren't breaking their cycle.
00:06:09.960 You're saying earlier on, it was hard for you to do it.
00:06:12.280 But for whatever reason, we need to break this barrel.
00:06:15.920 So how are we going to do that?
00:06:17.360 Just like a concert today, we just say Beyonce.
00:06:19.660 If you want to go to a Beyonce concert bad, and you don't have the money,
00:06:23.140 you will find this money someway, somehow.
00:06:27.760 So it's just the priorities.
00:06:29.240 Yeah, it's 100% priorities.
00:06:31.400 I actually really wanted to go, but as a freelancer, I had to.
00:06:34.880 You will find a way.
00:06:35.440 I had to honestly.
00:06:35.980 So it's the same way.
00:06:36.820 You find a way to lose weight.
00:06:37.900 Well, where I think it's gone wrong is, what was your name again, sorry?
00:06:41.500 I'm Pia.
00:06:42.280 Pia.
00:06:43.160 Where it's gone wrong is, you're getting rewarded almost on social media.
00:06:48.600 You're saying, oh, comments found me attractive.
00:06:50.240 It's okay.
00:06:51.480 But in reality, like I said before, nine out of ten people would say it's unattractive.
00:06:58.440 And I think you guys could agree with that.
00:07:00.700 But again, as I said, like I've never struggled.
00:07:03.600 I've never felt unattractive in my life.
00:07:05.500 I've never got into a club that is strict about like Mayfair clubs.
00:07:08.920 I've always got in.
00:07:09.960 It doesn't matter what way I am.
00:07:11.020 I've always felt attractive and been attractive in my life.
00:07:14.380 Like I've never struggled.
00:07:15.240 Is that saying, are you waiting until, like are you going to continue, I don't want to
00:07:22.720 say continue getting to where you are, but you're going to stay comfortable until.
00:07:26.120 No, I'm trying to say that.
00:07:27.220 I just think it's a criteria of what you think attractive is.
00:07:30.420 I'm trying to lose weight.
00:07:31.300 You're telling yourself you're attractive and you're putting the criteria as I get into
00:07:35.420 Mayfair clubs and exclusive parties and whatnot.
00:07:38.420 But if the general consensus of what is attractive, of what men find beautiful in women, then I'm
00:07:46.920 not saying to your face that you probably wouldn't tick that, but I'm just saying at
00:07:49.940 your current weight, probably not.
00:07:52.680 But what I would say is that like I am actively trying to lose weight, but that has nothing
00:07:56.640 to do with how attractive I am.
00:07:57.900 And that is not something that motivates me.
00:07:59.500 I think it does.
00:08:01.140 I think it's delusional not to say.
00:08:02.820 I'm not trying to lose weight because of how attractive I think other people think I am.
00:08:06.680 I'm not saying why, but I'm saying your weight absolutely does dictate how attractive you
00:08:10.740 are.
00:08:11.100 Okay, yeah, like fine.
00:08:12.600 But that's not a motivator for me, losing weight.
00:08:15.820 That's not a motivation.
00:08:16.800 It's just whether you're attractive or not.
00:08:17.980 That's what Pearl said.
00:08:18.660 But what does that have to do then?
00:08:20.060 She's saying weight has a direct impact on how attractive you are.
00:08:23.380 And I think if all attention, I mean, you just talked about the attention you got from
00:08:27.680 Instagram.
00:08:28.160 So if all attention was taken from you tomorrow, I think it would motivate you to lose weight.
00:08:33.260 But the problem is even overweight women still get attention because of Instagram, social
00:08:38.000 media, and all of this stuff that like normalizes obesity.
00:08:42.040 Like a hundred years ago, everybody was in shape.
00:08:44.700 So if you were overweight, like you would be shamed.
00:08:47.480 Everybody would say something.
00:08:48.980 You were the outcast.
00:08:50.040 But now it's normal.
00:08:51.720 Pearl, that's because people have different beauty in their eyes.
00:08:57.160 Like some people, they would look at someone and weight wouldn't matter.
00:09:01.880 It's their real beauty.
00:09:03.360 So that's why you've seen the big girl with the fit guy or the big guy with the fit girl.
00:09:07.580 I'll only believe it when the men with all the options start picking big women.
00:09:14.460 Has anyone ever seen Brad Pitt with an extremely fat chick?
00:09:18.040 Maybe the men.
00:09:19.180 But you'll see a hot chick with a really rich, ugly guy.
00:09:23.520 Yeah, because he's got money and status.
00:09:24.620 Name me one Hollywood A-lister that's gone out with a morbidly obese woman.
00:09:29.980 Can't think of one.
00:09:31.160 Not one.
00:09:31.480 I'm sorry, they've got a public profile to think about.
00:09:34.440 No, because there are lots of secret chub chasers, let me tell you.
00:09:38.660 A lot of secret undercover ones.
00:09:40.460 But secret doesn't count because women value commitment.
00:09:45.720 So secret doesn't count.
00:09:47.040 That's like saying, oh, I'm this person's side chick.
00:09:49.440 It doesn't count.
00:09:50.840 Like it doesn't matter.
00:09:54.140 So if we're talking about being attractive to men, we could sit here and all jab at Pia or person X and say, yeah, but you're not attractive to men because you're fat.
00:10:07.500 A, she's already got a boyfriend.
00:10:09.940 B, I would say that the goalposts always change for women because even if person X were to lose weight, maybe they, I don't know, have dark hair and men prefer blondes.
00:10:21.100 And then she's got to bleach her hair and she is too short, but there's nothing she can do about her height.
00:10:26.080 So her dating pool is always going to be that little bit smaller.
00:10:28.980 Preference is bred by variation.
00:10:32.620 Look at all of the variation between like the people in this room.
00:10:34.980 There are some people, let's talk about now women and being attracted to men.
00:10:39.600 There are people like who would prefer you, John, over person B and that's fine, right?
00:10:45.980 Like if you are not attractive to person A, you're going to be attractive to someone else.
00:10:50.640 But the criteria will always change.
00:10:52.920 The goalposts will always move, especially for women, because we know that there's a huge market around like beauty standards.
00:10:58.320 The goalposts move for men.
00:11:00.700 I mean, Paul was probably just about to say that as well.
00:11:02.840 You've got to have a high status to command an attractive woman.
00:11:05.920 But to that point, I mean, Pia, I'm glad you found love.
00:11:10.040 It's great for you and you've got a boyfriend.
00:11:11.700 But would you think if you were healthier, maybe skinnier, that you would find someone other than your boyfriend that's a bit more attractive, a bit more higher status, has a higher paying job?
00:11:23.080 I'm just throwing it out.
00:11:23.940 Do you think if you were more attractive due to your weight that you would find someone better than your current boyfriend?
00:11:30.240 Or is that too personal to us?
00:11:31.200 I'm just throwing it out.