JustPearlyThings - June 24, 2023


Plus Size Man ATTACKS Personal Trainer


Episode Stats


Length

12 minutes

Words per minute

191.51945

Word count

2,302

Sentence count

203

Harmful content

Misogyny

22

sentences flagged

Hate speech

9

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

In this episode, the guys debate if fat women in bikinis are not attractive to men. Is there a weight limit for a fat woman in a bikini? Do you think a guy would be attracted to a woman with a smaller waist or a bigger bum?

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 I can't speak for all men, but I would say majority of blokes wouldn't find fat women in a bikini attractive.
00:00:06.700 Does it depend on what her shape is like? 0.57
00:00:08.260 Can we get a consensus from the guys?
00:00:10.920 Actually, I'm just, there's five guys in the room, six.
00:00:14.500 So, who here would disqualify a girl from dating her just based on her weight?
00:00:19.980 Yeah, 100%.
00:00:20.640 Yeah, 100%.
00:00:21.520 So, you wouldn't, you would, so.
00:00:23.640 That and confident.
00:00:25.000 Who's not confident here?
00:00:26.040 King, would you, would you disqual, would you disqualify a girl based on her weight? 0.79
00:00:31.680 Yeah.
00:00:32.080 Yeah.
00:00:32.460 What is that weight limit?
00:00:33.140 I'd be so interested to know what that weight limit is.
00:00:35.300 Would you disqualify a guy if he was fat?
00:00:39.080 Yeah.
00:00:40.800 But I have dated a bigger guy before, but yeah.
00:00:44.140 Oh, Pearl.
00:00:46.140 I have.
00:00:46.500 You're so nice.
00:00:47.260 Well, yeah, but it is.
00:00:47.780 So, that's 100%.
00:00:49.560 You famously dated a bigger guy, Pearl.
00:00:51.560 That's five out of five.
00:00:52.380 I'll take that.
00:00:52.880 Small sample size.
00:00:53.880 I'm sorry, I'm a number.
00:00:54.920 Statistically significant, though.
00:00:56.220 I'm a numbers person, so no matter what, if I'm with you on your numbers, then right.
00:01:00.860 But go for gold.
00:01:01.740 If you enjoy wearing a bikini, go for gold.
00:01:04.960 That buds are in.
00:01:06.280 I'll just let you say that.
00:01:07.540 Yes, they are.
00:01:08.400 They are.
00:01:08.580 We're not talking about weight, are we?
00:01:09.860 So, what is the weight limit?
00:01:11.060 Like, is it if a woman is, I don't know, I don't know. 1.00
00:01:13.420 It's just aesthetically appealing.
00:01:15.100 Okay, so for a fat woman, it's about shape, right? 1.00
00:01:17.540 If she had a tiny waist, she was buxom, and she had large thighs and a big bum, you would 1.00
00:01:21.580 be like, yeah, she's rocking that.
00:01:23.000 But if she was rounder, like more of an apple shape, then you'd be like, yeah, you need
00:01:27.140 to go cover up.
00:01:27.260 I'd say there's tears.
00:01:28.480 I'd say there's tears for sure.
00:01:29.680 I mean, if you look at Nicki Minaj, you'd go, oh yeah, okay, I could see her in a bikini, 1.00
00:01:33.400 wouldn't mind that.
00:01:34.480 She's probably a bit larger than the average individual. 1.00
00:01:36.940 But an obese woman in a bikini, probably not everyone's cup of tea. 1.00
00:01:40.380 Would you go up to her and ask her what the fat around her heart is like if she looked
00:01:44.580 like her?
00:01:44.940 I would judge her based on how she looks.
00:01:48.060 If she looks unhealthy, probably disqualifies her. 0.91
00:01:50.660 That's probably fair.
00:01:51.840 How long have you been a personal trainer?
00:01:53.120 Can I ask?
00:01:53.660 Yeah.
00:01:54.080 How long have you been a personal trainer?
00:01:54.820 How long?
00:01:55.300 Yeah.
00:01:55.760 I'm just qualified, but probably since 2018.
00:01:58.880 Yeah.
00:01:59.500 So three of my latest Instagram posts sent me in a bikini, in different bikinis, and they
00:02:04.660 all did absolutely fine.
00:02:05.760 They have lots of comments telling me how great I look, and I think I look great in them,
00:02:09.320 you know, and I'm an obese one.
00:02:11.320 So do your clients trust you?
00:02:12.720 Is that an echo chamber?
00:02:13.780 Do your clients trust you?
00:02:15.820 Do your clients trust you?
00:02:16.960 I would think they would, yeah.
00:02:17.840 And what's the biggest client you've had, like the biggest weight?
00:02:21.220 I'd say I mainly train guys, but just I would say the average probably like 100, 110 kilos.
00:02:29.920 I'm sorry that you listen, you need to do more personal training because until you make
00:02:34.780 a big person lose weight, you're like a big, big, big person lose weight.
00:02:39.060 Well, actually, there's some-
00:02:40.000 How, could you think about it, man?
00:02:41.620 Come on.
00:02:42.260 Yeah.
00:02:42.960 Personal trainer, their job is to help people.
00:02:45.500 No, but the issue is even when you lose weight, 80% of fat people regain it within five years.
00:02:53.320 And sorry, I didn't mean to dis you because I'm not here.
00:02:56.440 I don't want to come, but for real, a personal trainer, it's all about actually helping and
00:03:01.980 encouraging others, and you need to actually set an example and be the example.
00:03:05.460 No, but check this.
00:03:06.260 No, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:03:07.060 But you see with the personal trainers, yeah, how long do you spend with your client?
00:03:13.040 An hour, if that.
00:03:14.820 An hour, if that.
00:03:15.920 So if any more time, you work twice a week, three times a week.
00:03:19.780 So then how am I going to control your life or make you lose weight or motivate you if
00:03:24.020 you're not even committing yourself to losing weight yourself?
00:03:27.840 And a lot of women just get a personal trainer as a counsellor. 1.00
00:03:31.920 There are so many personal trainers that I know.
00:03:34.240 Wait, say that again.
00:03:35.100 I've heard a lot of women just get personal trainers as a counsellor. 1.00
00:03:37.840 They go there, tell them all their problems.
00:03:40.380 They're not really there to lose weight.
00:03:42.000 Wait, wait, really?
00:03:42.760 So, I mean, what he's saying is it's on the individual.
00:03:48.980 You have to have some responsibility.
00:03:50.520 A personal trainer can't babysit you.
00:03:52.200 Hey, what are you eating?
00:03:53.160 Monitoring.
00:03:53.540 They can encourage you all they want.
00:03:54.600 But then how do other personal trainers help other big, big people lose proper weight?
00:03:58.860 Like, I know my friends went really small.
00:04:02.060 I think if there's less of a body positivity movement, like more big, big people.
00:04:07.540 It's more like more positive attitude needs to be promoted by personal trainers in general.
00:04:12.760 Not him, but in general.
00:04:14.160 Because when you go to a gym, what is it?
00:04:16.860 It's personal trainers that are meant to be saying you're in a gym.
00:04:20.080 Well done.
00:04:20.660 You've made it.
00:04:21.420 You usually sit at home, eating, whatever.
00:04:23.920 You're in the gym.
00:04:25.000 Let me help you.
00:04:25.780 But no, it's the opposite.
00:04:26.880 Those are PTs with structure.
00:04:31.780 Because if I started training you, I already motivated you from the start to start training.
00:04:36.500 And if every, let's just say week or two, you are checking your numbers.
00:04:39.800 And every week or two, you're actually getting results from these numbers.
00:04:43.520 That's motivating you to come to the gym more, to be there more, to eat healthier, to do more.
00:04:49.080 It's because you are getting better every single day.
00:04:52.580 It has nothing to do with the PT.
00:04:54.700 It has nothing to do with how much you show up.
00:04:57.440 It's about what you're doing behind my back.
00:05:00.060 It's all up to you.
00:05:01.960 You are your own motivation.
00:05:03.840 And when I show you these numbers, and you see every two weeks or month that, listen, I dropped four kg in, let's just say, one month.
00:05:11.460 That should motivate you to do more.
00:05:14.480 It's all in the numbers.
00:05:16.020 It has nothing to do with mental health and our lifestyle and all this and all that bullshit.
00:05:20.020 No.
00:05:21.160 It's all in your numbers.
00:05:22.860 That's just my opinion.
00:05:24.740 And when I show that to my clients, they're motivated to do more.
00:05:29.620 They're motivated to lose more.
00:05:31.680 It's because they see that they're improving themselves by showing up and doing what they have to do.
00:05:36.020 And showing that consistency, that's all that's important, to be honest.
00:05:41.680 You know what, yeah?
00:05:42.540 You keep on dropping this word motivation.
00:05:44.340 I hear motivation a lot in this podcast.
00:05:46.760 But a lot of people lose motivation very quickly.
00:05:49.700 And what it is, is actually discipline.
00:05:52.240 Discipline to get you to your goals.
00:05:53.780 A lot of people are not disciplined.
00:05:55.720 A lot of people are not consistent in their goals either.
00:05:58.140 So a lot of people are consistently doing nonsense.
00:06:00.860 So it's just like, stay on point.
00:06:03.340 But how are you going to do it?
00:06:04.580 Unless you're stuck in your ways, you need to break the cycle, you know?
00:06:08.380 And a lot of people aren't breaking their cycle.
00:06:09.960 You're saying earlier on, it was hard for you to do it.
00:06:12.280 But for whatever reason, we need to break this barrel.
00:06:15.920 So how are we going to do that?
00:06:17.360 Just like a concert today, we just say Beyonce.
00:06:19.660 If you want to go to a Beyonce concert bad, and you don't have the money,
00:06:23.140 you will find this money someway, somehow.
00:06:27.760 So it's just the priorities.
00:06:29.240 Yeah, it's 100% priorities.
00:06:31.400 I actually really wanted to go, but as a freelancer, I had to.
00:06:34.880 You will find a way.
00:06:35.440 I had to honestly.
00:06:35.980 So it's the same way.
00:06:36.820 You find a way to lose weight.
00:06:37.900 Well, where I think it's gone wrong is, what was your name again, sorry?
00:06:41.500 I'm Pia.
00:06:42.280 Pia.
00:06:43.160 Where it's gone wrong is, you're getting rewarded almost on social media.
00:06:48.600 You're saying, oh, comments found me attractive.
00:06:50.240 It's okay.
00:06:51.480 But in reality, like I said before, nine out of ten people would say it's unattractive.
00:06:58.440 And I think you guys could agree with that.
00:07:00.700 But again, as I said, like I've never struggled.
00:07:03.600 I've never felt unattractive in my life.
00:07:05.500 I've never got into a club that is strict about like Mayfair clubs.
00:07:08.920 I've always got in.
00:07:09.960 It doesn't matter what way I am.
00:07:11.020 I've always felt attractive and been attractive in my life.
00:07:14.380 Like I've never struggled.
00:07:15.240 Is that saying, are you waiting until, like are you going to continue, I don't want to
00:07:22.720 say continue getting to where you are, but you're going to stay comfortable until.
00:07:26.120 No, I'm trying to say that.
00:07:27.220 I just think it's a criteria of what you think attractive is.
00:07:30.420 I'm trying to lose weight.
00:07:31.300 You're telling yourself you're attractive and you're putting the criteria as I get into
00:07:35.420 Mayfair clubs and exclusive parties and whatnot.
00:07:38.420 But if the general consensus of what is attractive, of what men find beautiful in women, then I'm
00:07:46.920 not saying to your face that you probably wouldn't tick that, but I'm just saying at
00:07:49.940 your current weight, probably not.
00:07:52.680 But what I would say is that like I am actively trying to lose weight, but that has nothing
00:07:56.640 to do with how attractive I am.
00:07:57.900 And that is not something that motivates me.
00:07:59.500 I think it does.
00:08:01.140 I think it's delusional not to say.
00:08:02.820 I'm not trying to lose weight because of how attractive I think other people think I am.
00:08:06.680 I'm not saying why, but I'm saying your weight absolutely does dictate how attractive you
00:08:10.740 are.
00:08:11.100 Okay, yeah, like fine.
00:08:12.600 But that's not a motivator for me, losing weight.
00:08:15.820 That's not a motivation.
00:08:16.800 It's just whether you're attractive or not.
00:08:17.980 That's what Pearl said.
00:08:18.660 But what does that have to do then?
00:08:20.060 She's saying weight has a direct impact on how attractive you are.
00:08:23.380 And I think if all attention, I mean, you just talked about the attention you got from
00:08:27.680 Instagram.
00:08:28.160 So if all attention was taken from you tomorrow, I think it would motivate you to lose weight.
00:08:33.260 But the problem is even overweight women still get attention because of Instagram, social 1.00
00:08:38.000 media, and all of this stuff that like normalizes obesity.
00:08:42.040 Like a hundred years ago, everybody was in shape.
00:08:44.700 So if you were overweight, like you would be shamed.
00:08:47.480 Everybody would say something.
00:08:48.980 You were the outcast.
00:08:50.040 But now it's normal.
00:08:51.720 Pearl, that's because people have different beauty in their eyes.
00:08:57.160 Like some people, they would look at someone and weight wouldn't matter.
00:09:01.880 It's their real beauty.
00:09:03.360 So that's why you've seen the big girl with the fit guy or the big guy with the fit girl.
00:09:07.580 I'll only believe it when the men with all the options start picking big women. 1.00
00:09:14.460 Has anyone ever seen Brad Pitt with an extremely fat chick? 1.00
00:09:18.040 Maybe the men.
00:09:19.180 But you'll see a hot chick with a really rich, ugly guy. 1.00
00:09:23.520 Yeah, because he's got money and status.
00:09:24.620 Name me one Hollywood A-lister that's gone out with a morbidly obese woman. 1.00
00:09:29.980 Can't think of one.
00:09:31.160 Not one.
00:09:31.480 I'm sorry, they've got a public profile to think about.
00:09:34.440 No, because there are lots of secret chub chasers, let me tell you. 1.00
00:09:38.660 A lot of secret undercover ones.
00:09:40.460 But secret doesn't count because women value commitment. 1.00
00:09:45.720 So secret doesn't count.
00:09:47.040 That's like saying, oh, I'm this person's side chick.
00:09:49.440 It doesn't count.
00:09:50.840 Like it doesn't matter.
00:09:54.140 So if we're talking about being attractive to men, we could sit here and all jab at Pia or person X and say, yeah, but you're not attractive to men because you're fat. 0.89
00:10:07.500 A, she's already got a boyfriend.
00:10:09.940 B, I would say that the goalposts always change for women because even if person X were to lose weight, maybe they, I don't know, have dark hair and men prefer blondes. 1.00
00:10:21.100 And then she's got to bleach her hair and she is too short, but there's nothing she can do about her height. 0.99
00:10:26.080 So her dating pool is always going to be that little bit smaller.
00:10:28.980 Preference is bred by variation.
00:10:32.620 Look at all of the variation between like the people in this room.
00:10:34.980 There are some people, let's talk about now women and being attracted to men. 0.87
00:10:39.600 There are people like who would prefer you, John, over person B and that's fine, right?
00:10:45.980 Like if you are not attractive to person A, you're going to be attractive to someone else.
00:10:50.640 But the criteria will always change.
00:10:52.920 The goalposts will always move, especially for women, because we know that there's a huge market around like beauty standards. 1.00
00:10:58.320 The goalposts move for men. 0.99
00:11:00.700 I mean, Paul was probably just about to say that as well.
00:11:02.840 You've got to have a high status to command an attractive woman. 1.00
00:11:05.920 But to that point, I mean, Pia, I'm glad you found love.
00:11:10.040 It's great for you and you've got a boyfriend.
00:11:11.700 But would you think if you were healthier, maybe skinnier, that you would find someone other than your boyfriend that's a bit more attractive, a bit more higher status, has a higher paying job?
00:11:23.080 I'm just throwing it out.
00:11:23.940 Do you think if you were more attractive due to your weight that you would find someone better than your current boyfriend?
00:11:30.240 Or is that too personal to us?
00:11:31.200 I'm just throwing it out.