Private Eye Russ Joins In Studio to Reveal women's Dark Secrets | The Sitdown
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Summary
On this episode of the podcast, we have a special guest on the show who is a Licensed Professional Investigator (P.I.) with over 20 years of experience in the field. We talk about his journey from a small town to becoming a P.I. and how he became one of the most sought after private investigators in the country.
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And in exchange, he sponsored me in Florida, you need a sponsor. It's a two-year internship, two years, 40 hours, documented investigative work. And so I did that. And, you know, wind up working, he's retired now. And then wind up just doing my own thing. But, you know, as we were talking before, my first case, most private investigators do surveillance. And some of them just stay in that, in that particular lane. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a good living.
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My first case was a homicide. So I got thrown in the deep end. You know, as a licensed P, I got thrown in the deep end right away. And I've done a ton of, ton of those actually.
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So what did you have to read? Like you had to figure out who did it or?
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Well, the, the, and so the homicide, the homicide I worked on this particular, on these particular instances were under what's called negligent security.
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So if you go to a shopping mall or apartment complex or whatever, something bad happens to you, say you're hurt badly, put in a wheelchair or deleted, your family can sue.
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And so initially what we're doing is we're helping the attorneys get the raw materials they need to prove negligence on part of the property owner or business owner or whatever it is.
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So what, what usually winds up happening is as you're interviewing people, tracking people down and talking to more people, you actually wind up getting more information about what actually happened than, than law enforcement typically does.
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Oh, cause they want to have a guard up against you.
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Like I just think of the cop, you're naturally, you don't want to be dragged into something.
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But, but also too, even further than that, you know, a lot of these cases occur in lower income areas and, you know, honestly, you know, are they really going to work that hard?
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You know, like, like two knuckleheads, one, one guy, you know, they're getting a paycheck anyway.
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And, and that's, that's not a, that's not to put down law enforcement or whatever, but you know, they've got so many things to work on.
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When I'm working on a case, I'm working on that case.
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So then there's the time factor I've got more time to put in because I'm being paid specifically to work on that.
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And so I almost always wind up with more information than, than law enforcement.
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And, and even some of the unsolved ones, I'll, I'll find out who's, who's, who's working on them.
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I'm actually working on a case right now to try to help a guy get free.
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He was falsely convicted to life in prison for homicide.
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And, uh, we found some witnesses that will say that, no, he didn't actually do it with somebody else.
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So how did he, like, how did he get pinned for it?
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Um, was it on purpose or was he wrong place, wrong time?
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He, a couple of different things happened with him.
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So he was near where it happened, but there were three individuals that saw what happened.
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But because of this, no snitching code that they have in the streets, you know, they think talking to the police is snitching.
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Well, you know, you don't have to say who did it necessarily, but they didn't come forward and say that this guy didn't do it.
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And so he had a choice to take a life in prison or the death penalty.
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And so obviously, you know, he took, he chose, he chose life in prison.
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But, you know, since then it was uncovered that, um, there were three individuals that, that will actually say, and actually got a statement from one of them, um, saying an affidavit saying that, no, it wasn't him.
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And there's another one he's locked up right now.
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So I'm trying to get a, get a chance to go see him, to get a statement from him too, to try to get the guy free.
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Not that he's an, an angel, but I think what happened was the, the detective that was working on this.
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Obviously the detective just didn't like the guy because, because he missed him so many other times or so many other things that he was like, okay, you know what?
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And so, um, but, um, you know, hopefully luck of the Irish, we can, we can get this guy free.
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We're going to try to add another one and maybe get the guy justice.
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So in your work, what percent of your cases are like homicides?
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What percent are, um, traffic, human trafficking rings, um, marriage, like, you know, well, the, the, I don't even really.
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The, the human trafficking things, uh, typically when I'm working those, I'm volunteering.
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I volunteer for a couple of nonprofits that use a network of private investigators, ex military guys, um, and your retired detectives to try to search for missing and exploited children.
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And so that's, that's how I, I get involved in those.
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But, um, and the reason they use PIs is we usually have really good interest.
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I got really good information network in Florida, like a lot of information, a lot of people that, um, you can't, you know, information you can't get from Google or, or any place else.
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You need people that are in that world and, and in that life.
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And so you've got to, you know, they are, they are the literally quintessential shadowy underworld figures.
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Um, however, you know, information is information.
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And if, um, you know, the way I, the way I try to quantify it, like I had one person object because I, I actually had to, I paid cash to a convicted sex offender to find a child.
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And so they were like, how could you give that guy money?
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I said, look, at the end of the day, man, if you come to me and you say, Russ, my child is missing, I want you to get my child.
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Do you care how I get your child or do you just want your child back?
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And so, so at the end of the day, I'm not method, um, I'm not constrained by methods.
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Police are, and a lot of times they understand.
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You know, I can make up my own rules as long as I don't go too far, obviously, but I can make up my rules.
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And, and sometimes I push those boundaries, but at the end of the day, my job is to bring a child back home.
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And so that's how the, so, so the human trafficking side, um, you know, I, um, yeah, they'll, they'll pay you, they'll compensate you for your expenses.
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Cause it's usually a lot of, you usually got to drive a ton.
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Um, and nobody really cares, but there are just as many young men, young boys, especially being trafficked as there are women.
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Um, and, and the thing about the, the boys is, you know, well, both, both cases.
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If you don't find these children within a certain amount of time, uh, they could disappear down a dark hole and may never be seen again.
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And so, um, you know, the people that will engage the services of these.
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There's no way the evil evil doers, you know, there's no other way to put it.
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And it's not just, it's not just men that are trafficking children.
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It's, it's actually, I'd say 40% of them are women.
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Well, if you think about it, it makes sense because if you want to lure a young person or a child, is a man going to be better at that?
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And so, um, and so if, you know, these guys that, that engage in this sort of thing, um, they're, they're, they're evil guys.
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Um, and, and there's no way any of us could, could understand, or even your, your audience could ever understand anybody who would, who would, you know, try to do that.
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But if you can't get them back within a relatively short period of time, they're gone.
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Look, the market for boys being trafficked is more lucrative than the market for girls being trafficked.
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Dudes that, that want to do that will pay more.
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Um, but, but it, it happens and it's always tragic when it does.
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And so how does it like, what's a typical case?
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Um, again, we talked about, about these, this being a portal.
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If your child has one of these and you do not have your child's phone jacked, meaning you
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can see everything remotely that's going on on their phone, wherever the phone is, whatever,
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whoever's texting them, uh, gaming apps are a big thing.
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Um, we had one case where a child was lured, uh, into hanging out with a, with a, with an
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adult male, uh, using, I almost say the name of the game to avoid the litigation.
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And so, but you could actually contact each other through the, through the game itself.
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And, uh, you know, as we, as we kind of reverse engineered what happened, um, you know, there
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were two opposing factions, I guess you could call it.
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Well, you know, you could see who was, was on that flag or whatever.
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And the, the, the predator used this particular game to, um, entice and ensnare young boys.
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Uh, and so he, you know, who knows how many times he was successful doing that.
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So I try to tell people, man, you have to know, you know, everything that your child is doing
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I said, look, I'm going to spy on every single thing you do until you're 18.
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And, and, you know, you know, you know, and you don't have to catch everything they do.
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You know, you, you're looking for things that are going to lead to, um, harm, you know?
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Um, you know, and, and so, you know, if my son tells me a lie like, Dad, your hair looks
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You know, he's, he's full of, you know what, but you have to understand what your children
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And I think what happens is parents get, some parents get into a state of complacency.
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They think if they live in a nice neighborhood, guess what?
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If you do a sex offender search, like I live in a nice, I live in a nice area.
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Um, I went a little bit further out, like to a place called Oviedo is outside Orlando
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Not a bad neighborhood, you know, very nice homes.
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There were more sex offenders in a one mile radius of a friend of mine's, um, um, address
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in Oviedo than from my old neighborhood in the Bronx.
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There are guys that have, there are millionaires that are sex offenders.
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Most of them haven't been caught, so they don't wind up on a registry.
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And so, you know, there is no safe neighborhood when it comes to predatory human beings.
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They come in all shapes and sizes from every socioeconomic background.
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Um, you know, you're not safe because you live in a nice neighborhood or even a gated
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You still have to be vigilant when it comes to your children.
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I think what happens is people provide a safe space.
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So when these boys or girls get kidnapped, do they typically stay in the U.S.
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Or how does, I'm just wondering what the typical like life cycle is maybe?
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Well, it's, it's, it's a little bit different for every case, depending on who's trafficking
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But what happens is that they typically want to get the child out of the area.
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And so a Greyhound bus is still a very common way to transport kids.
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Well, well, because the, the, the trafficker doesn't want to move the child themselves.
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And so it's a lot easier to pick up a child from the bus station than to go drive, you
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know, 20 hours to pick a child out from, from out of state.
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Um, and if the child goes on of his, of his or her own accord, then it looks like they're
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And so a runaway is going to be handled differently than a kidnapping or, you know what I mean?
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And typically what they'll do is they'll masquerade as a young person.
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Um, the, the catfishing and they'll get them out of their area.
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And as soon as they get their clutches on them, they, they start working on them and
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creating a dependency on them, on, on the, the predator.
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Oh, you know, your, your parents don't want you.
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And even in many cases, drugs are introduced to create a drug dependency.
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Uh, one of the, one of the challenges for us who are searching for the kids is these, these
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traffickers understand that they're going to be people and not, not in all cases, but
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in some cases, people like me hunting for them and law enforcement or whatever.
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Law enforcement doesn't really get involved unless they're specifically told to, because
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And so, um, they'll change their, they'll alter their appearance sometimes drastically.
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And so, um, there are a lot of different ways to start looking for them.
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Obviously I don't want to put them all out because I don't want them to watch and, and
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But one of the things they do is they'll put these, they'll put these children, they'll
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make them look grown up and they'll put them on the adult, um, sex marketing sites for
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They're independent contractors or they have a business manager or a pimple, whatever
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They'll put them on there, but they'll make them look older, but they'll put verbiage
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in the, whatever narrative, you know, that, that will, it's kind of like a dog whistle
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And they'll understand that that's an underage child.
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And, and so they'll, they'll initially be, um, you know, can I say the R word or I'll
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They'll say graped, uh, by the individual who trafficked them.
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And then they'll start marketing them to their friends and then more people and, and these
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That happens here in the United States of America.
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No, I was just wondering if like some of them flee the country or something to do it.
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Sometimes, sometimes, and it depends on, on, on where, you know, who's doing it, but there
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are some children that are actually, um, requested.
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Like some evil dude say, Hey, I want you to grab that child.
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Um, but, but for the most part, they'll stay right here in the United States.
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This is one of the biggest human trafficking markets.
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This is the biggest human trafficking market in the world, United States of America.
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So do mothers that put their kids on the internet, put their kids at risk for this
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I see like people putting baby pictures in a really, really like in diapers or even
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no diapers on, you know, there are guys out there.
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The, the worst offenders besides the social media ones.
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And I don't think they're doing this out of any malfeasance.
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But women who put their children on their dating apps with them, that is the worst thing
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What you're going to attract, you're not going to attract for the most part, you're going
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to attract some guys that don't mind single moms, but, but one of the things, one of the
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things I found, um, just from some of my investigations were that, that, uh, child
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And if they see that criteria, one of the things some of these guys will do is they will
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Uh, and, and, um, I actually try to enter their social circle if they're married or something.
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Um, like, well, well, typically they'll, they'll, they'll be, you know, most, most fathers
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aren't going to let their kids pictures be put on the internet like that.
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But what they have to understand is that the internet is a very big place and you've got
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And so I worked a, um, a protection job is a corporate protection job where, you know,
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They're like, okay, one of our employees, and again, I won't go into any names or anything
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like that, but one of our employees found out that her long time live in boyfriend has
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And so, um, he's, he's made threats against her.
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And so we want you standing by until he goes to trial.
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And so initially it was 30, this thing wound up like 90 days, man.
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Oh, and by the way, the guy was a competitive shooter.
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And so what I did was I got them to spend money for some more investigators.
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And I said, look, I'll be here, but I want my guys watching him.
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I want to know where this dude is, uh, because I didn't want to, you know, supersonic round,
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And so it, and it got really, really tense and, and these things are always kind of,
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but, but there are guys out there that will target women just so they can get close to
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So one, some of the common tactics they'll use is they'll use the babysit.
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You know, the, Oh, you need to go get your hair.
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Um, the, you know, besides the babysitting thing, there was a case in Orlando where,
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um, a woman, a single mom, two kids, five and eight years old would let the maintenance
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So she could go to the club and go do this and hang out with her girlfriends.
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I mean, do they realize that people don't even vet their family?
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Like, like family members do it that you've known for years.
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And then they found out, you know, later after who knows how long that this guy did it, but
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So he would buy them video games to, to buy their silence.
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Oh, but even worse, the guy who hired him knew that he had molested a child before out
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in the West coast and hired him anyway, because he said, Oh, he wouldn't, he wouldn't do that
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And, and so my, my message to single parents, moms, but especially moms, not so much dads,
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but moms, especially because you're going to be the ones targeted because you are going
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And I'm not saying that you are, but I'm saying that that's how you're going to be targeted
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I feel like dad's like, it's like over like seven.
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They start to like, I love my son because he's my son.
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And having said that, I, I've helped out so many children to help recover so many children.
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When I say I don't like them, I don't want to hang out with them.
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Cause most people don't raise their children properly, you know?
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And, and I'm not, I'm not putting that kind of energy and dealing with some offspring
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Some people might object to that, but that's the truth, ladies.
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So if a guy is volunteering to look after a child that is not his.
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He's either genuinely trying to get in your good graces, but there are other women out
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You're not, uh, you're special just like everybody else.
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And so, um, but you have to always keep in the back of your mind that this individual
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could be trying to get close to you because that gives them easier access to your child.
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So the cases that you, so you do murder cases, you do, um, human trafficking cases.
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Um, I've done a ton of, um, let's call it pre pre marital inspection.
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So, so say for instance, you're going to buy, say you're gonna buy a light.
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But you look like a G-Wagon Ferrari person, right?
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It probably gets about 10 miles a gallon on a freeway.
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So, but before you buy one, if you buy one used, you want to get a pre purchase inspection.
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You want a mechanic, a trusted mechanic to go in and look and make sure, check out the,
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the, um, the maintenance records, make sure it matches up with what's actually been
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done in a car and make sure that you're not buying a ticking time bomb or engine that's
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I do the same thing for men who are thinking about engaging a woman for long-term relationship
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There's, there's your basic look and then there's a really super deep dive, which involves
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things like active surveillance and, and things of that nature.
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And, um, you know, so that's, that's something I, and again, I take that really seriously
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because again, if, if, if I mess things up, um, I could be sending some poor dude to the
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Uh, you know, you just want to open up all the cancer.
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One of the jobs I did before I became a licensed private investigator, I was head of security
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for a very large congregation for a very prominent religious leader.
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Um, fortunately him and his wife were two of the most gracious people and actual godly
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His wife was probably the most gracious woman I've ever met.
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Uh, like super nice people that would do anything for you.
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But I, I was able to interact with a lot of the gospel superstars that people worship
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Most of them, 90% of them are not, they're living like devils while they're trying to tell
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So if you have a woman and you meet a woman in church because you think you're getting something
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better than outside of church, I got bad news for you, bro.
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You're just going to get a really self-righteous individual.
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Um, or you're going to get a recycled three or four that wants a break from the treadmill.
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And so she goes to church to find refuge and find some poor schmo that doesn't know
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Uh, and again, these might sound like harsh words.
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However, um, you know, I don't, you know, I don't, I, you know, I, I don't make a habit
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Um, I, I have to give people the truth and sometimes it's ugly.
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And, you know, people will hear me say that and they think I'm anti-Christian.
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I'm not always a very good one, but, uh, what I, what I object to is people being fooled
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and using God and church and religion, uh, as a way to trick people.
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And one of the people, you know, some of the groups that women get tricked too, but men
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And so, um, a woman going to church, what does that mean?
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I would see women at the club the night before on Saturday night.
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They'd still be in their club clothes, church on Sunday morning.
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Still be in the club clothes, church on Sunday morning.
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They're backing that thing up and doing whatever else Saturday night.
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And so, um, look, and that's not to, to say that they're worse, but what I'm saying
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You cannot use religion or religious affiliation as a, as a vetting method.
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It's, it's, it's because I've seen it just, I've seen the absolute opposite.
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In some instances, I've seen women in church act way, way worse, um, than, than women who,
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So, and, and part of that is there's, there's, um, there's a belief that you're getting something
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And it's like, they're stepping into a freeway and that truck is right there and they just
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And all of a sudden, when they realize it, when they come to me after they find out something's
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wrong, usually like we talked about before, they're in crisis mode.
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Um, well, you know, the way to avoid that is understand her past.
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That's the best peak you will get into her future.
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And so when we talked about earlier, if you, if you can, if you can live with, nobody's
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If you can live with her worst that she's ever done, then you have a better chance of weathering
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whatever storm you might have to going forward.
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But if you don't know what her worst is, you're not able to make an informed decision.
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And what I try to do is give guys an opportunity to make an informed decision because that's
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If you got a woman with, um, you know, like that PPI inspection for the Lamborghini or
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Ferrari or G wagon, you got to do some homework on the G.
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Um, but if, if, if you think you're getting a car that has 10,000 miles, but it's the, the
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You know, how much, how much wear and tear is building that engine, the chassis, the electronics,
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And, and compare that to, you know, and again, people, you know, people will get all upset.
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But, you know, at the end of the day, I know a lot of women will give the, uh, the reply,
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It may not matter to you, but it matters to men for so many different reasons.
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You know, like I actually know guys who have married the neighborhood,
00:37:06.960
the neighborhood pass around, but didn't know they were the neighborhood pass around.
00:37:13.960
Now imagine how that guy feels knowing that he has a woman that everybody has been with.
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I mean, cause I feel like men, women will snitch.
00:37:25.960
We were talking about that earlier, but like they, they could be banging on other dudes what they want.
00:37:30.960
Well, in this particular case, he hired, he hired me because he thought she was cheating.
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And, and, and I was like, you know, and this was easy work.
00:37:41.960
And I was like, yeah, dude, she's, she's probably, I said, I'll find, I'll find, I'll look for documentation.
00:37:58.960
And it's like, you know, and not normally you wouldn't just come out and say this, but you know, it's like, okay.
00:38:04.960
Women can be with like a hundred dudes and none of them will snitch.
00:38:08.960
Well, they will say something if it's their, their homeboy.
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I got video of a woman getting bent over and cheeks clapping and all the rest of that stuff.
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And, and the dude was still like, well, that doesn't look like her.
00:38:42.960
I was just, I was just telling someone this the other day.
00:38:48.960
At some lessons, you just got to learn the hard way.
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And, and so he hired me cause he, he thought she was, she was messing around.
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And, um, you know, I, I didn't know this guy before they got married.
00:39:02.960
And so I was like, I was like, well, yeah, she probably is.
00:39:11.960
Like she was just that, like, literally she would just, she was just very generous.
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Uh, let's just put, she was very generous with her time and her presence.
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And so, um, so for him, that was a bitter pill.
00:39:23.960
It was a really bitter pill to swallow, man, because I mean, imagine somebody that you, you know, when, when, and again, we, I wrote about this called the, a woman as a brand ambassador.
00:39:33.960
So very rarely is a man, a woman's brand ambassador.
00:39:37.960
Typically the woman is going to be the man's brand ambassador, meaning she represents you.
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She represents hopefully the best part of your judgment.
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And so you're, because you're bringing this person in and they are, they're representing your name, your, your family, not just you, but your mother, your father, your family name in general, uh, your children.
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And so if you get that decision wrong, that's going to say a lot to people, not necessarily because you did it on purpose, but that's going to say a lot to people about you as a, as a man and your ability to make decisions.
00:40:16.960
Is if you marry the town pass around, uh, now some guys are comfortable with that.
00:40:21.960
Hey, do your thing, you know, but most guys are not.
00:40:27.960
So I'd imagine when you're doing, um, like when I, I did enough interviews, you kind of start to see like patterns and trends and like, you kind of group, start to group people.
00:40:39.960
Um, like from what, like, will, will she cheat or what type of, what's she, her past?
00:40:44.960
Yeah. Like, I don't know, women, it could be by profession that they do this.
00:40:48.960
It could be by a school. It could be like, I don't know.
00:40:51.960
I'm just curious over the years, you've, how long have you been doing this for?
00:41:01.960
Well, it was actually before 2009, but there's a two year internship.
00:41:04.960
So it was really 2007, but 2009 is when I got the, the, um, the full license after I completed the internship.
00:41:13.960
So, yeah. So you, I mean, you have to have, um, patterns that you've seen.
00:41:18.960
Like if I've noticed, if I've learned anything is that people aren't as special as they think.
00:41:23.960
And most people do our statistics and do fallen.
00:41:26.960
Like, um, it's kind of like the hoe and the simp in church.
00:41:32.960
But so with women, how do you categorize them typically?
00:41:41.960
Most guys will evaluate women as a, as a straight male, healthy, aggressive, heterosexual male.
00:41:49.960
Um, first category is would I, or would I, wouldn't I?
00:41:53.960
But more importantly, before then, would she, or wouldn't she?
00:41:57.960
So I can talk to women and tell within a few minutes or even just watch them to tell if, if they're available very, very quickly.
00:42:08.960
And it's not necessarily to me, but whoever, right?
00:42:10.960
So one of the things I look for is the attention hounds, the attention to women that are constantly, not just the way they dress,
00:42:19.960
but they're constantly looking around to see who's, who's watching them.
00:42:26.960
And if they get that intention, um, sometimes they're looking for engagement after that, you know, attention.
00:42:37.960
So you'll follow a girl and see if she's like looking around for attention.
00:42:41.960
Not, not even if I'm followers, I'm just women I meet in general.
00:42:45.960
You know, um, just because I, I, I observe, I watch everything.
00:42:48.960
Um, and sometimes it's a little bit of a curse and sometimes I'll notice things that I don't even want to see, you know, but, but I'll see them, you know, just because of my, my past and just my brain is wired.
00:43:00.960
My brain is wired to find things that people are trying to hide.
00:43:04.960
It's been like this since I was a, I was a kid.
00:43:06.960
Again, sometimes it's a, it's a little bit of a curse, uh, just cause you don't want to know everything about some people.
00:43:11.960
Sometimes, you know, you just want to think that just an ordinary person.
00:43:14.960
And then, you know, I'll see things like friends of mine and their wives are fitting in some of these patterns.
00:43:33.960
I typically walk my dogs if I'm around, uh, three times, say three times a day.
00:43:44.960
These things tend to, I, I, I sweat like a, um, I sweat like a, like a person who's in the desert.
00:43:50.960
So I don't want to, I don't want to blind anybody with my shiny bald head.
00:44:01.960
We've got a bunch of tennis courts in my neighborhood.
00:44:03.960
Um, that's when you know you're in a good neighborhood.
00:44:05.960
If you don't have any basketball courts, but tennis courts, you're in a nice neighborhood.
00:44:08.960
So, um, and so with, with one of my neighbors goes on power walks in the middle of the day,
00:44:16.960
she walks, she walks to the park and gets in a car.
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And another time I see her get picked up, same pattern, same car.
00:44:41.960
And so, um, and this, this happened more than once.
00:44:46.960
And so I hung out and then saw him drop her off.
00:44:50.960
And then she proceeds on her power walking thing again and goes back home.
00:44:57.960
Husband's at work, uh, providing a great living.
00:45:01.960
Um, so she hired, you know, she, she married the high value guy.
00:45:05.960
Uh, and the guy who picked her up wasn't a brokey.
00:45:18.960
Like she's, uh, I would eat if she wasn't married, I would eat sushi off her naked backside.
00:45:32.960
Um, but, and so, and obviously I, I don't mess with married.
00:45:37.960
Um, but, and so I said, okay, what would you guys do?
00:45:41.960
And I got a range of answers from, oh, you have to tell them.
00:45:48.960
I've smoked cigars with them, with other guys in the neighborhood a couple of times.
00:46:09.960
There was a time where I would have, but I'm sorry.
00:46:12.960
It's bit me in the ass, but I got to let you guys suffer.
00:46:19.960
I get the bro code thing, but I still got to live in that neighborhood.
00:46:26.960
Again, one of my strong suits is problem solving, right?
00:46:30.960
And so I, I love problem solving, solving problems.
00:46:31.960
I love finding creative ways to solve problems.
00:46:34.960
So what I did was I said, okay, I clocked the times that she would be there.
00:46:40.960
I started booking the tennis court around that time and inviting one of the neighborhood,
00:46:47.960
He's man, this guy is a, even though he's the guys in his seventies, man, but he went
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Like he'll have you running around the court all day.
00:46:59.960
I booked a tennis court and I positioned myself so that my back was to the pickup point and
00:47:13.960
But that wasn't her husband, but the guy knew her husband.
00:47:23.960
So, so, uh, and then he stopped and was like, I turned around, I go, Hey, oh, is that such
00:47:31.960
And he's got this really concerned look on his face.
00:47:37.960
He's like, and I just left it at that and he dealt with it.
00:47:43.960
And so I, I didn't tell him, I just put him in position to see.
00:47:47.960
Um, even though the guy wasn't the client, some people say, Oh, I'm a snitch.
00:47:59.960
Cause then like, cause if you tell them the problem is one, they might not believe you
00:48:06.960
Two, they do believe you and then they fight and then they tell them that you're the person
00:48:12.960
I told, and then they fought and then they stayed together.
00:48:24.960
And so, and so that's, that's how I handled that.
00:48:27.960
And, and, uh, because I was like, man, yeah, you hate watching guys dangle, you know,
00:48:32.960
over, over a volcano and you can save them, but you don't do it.
00:48:38.960
And so I, so I let his friend, uh, cause that guy's really good friends with him.
00:48:45.960
Um, and, uh, so did he find out, did he tell the husband?
00:48:49.960
Um, from what I, from the gossip I got in the neighborhood, I never asked, um, the older
00:48:55.960
guy what happened or what he did, but the gossip I got from the neighborhood is that, um,
00:49:00.960
um, he did indeed find out, uh, what was going on with his, um, with his, with his spouse.
00:49:13.960
Well, well, apparently she, this was her college boyfriend.
00:49:20.960
It's always the guy, it's always the guy they say not to worry about.
00:49:25.960
I'll tell you, I'll tell you a story from school.
00:49:27.960
So I was on a team with a girl and she, it was, I transferred in.
00:49:33.960
Um, and before I even like knew her, she dated this guy freshman year and they dated.
00:49:41.960
Like, I don't know, two, three months, but I guess she was kind of stuck on.
00:49:49.960
She has a new boyfriend and we were at like, it's called like a day party, like a dirty.
00:50:02.960
And she walks out with the guy from freshman year.
00:50:07.960
And the, her boyfriend came to the party later and had no idea they're still together to this day.
00:50:12.960
And you know, what makes it worse is she wasn't a whore.
00:50:16.960
Like she wasn't like, you would expect there's different girls on our team that I, you would maybe expect that from, but she did not, at least as far as I knew, she did not have the reputation of sleeping around with, sorry, sleeping around with a bunch of people, you know?
00:50:33.960
You know, so this guy, I'm like, he would have no idea because she, like, really, she had a good reputation.
00:50:42.960
And, and yeah, and I was not going to be the one.
00:50:46.960
Too many of you guys, you tell, you know how mad they get at me for being like, cause, cause there's guys who will say, oh, um, they want like a virgin wife or like, and, and I say guys like two bodies.
00:51:06.960
Or that's just like you, you, you, um, it's just the women, you know.
00:51:10.960
And I'm like, look, it's like, like, like, like, it's just women on podcasts.
00:51:18.960
Finding like, if you do find a virgin, I actually know a guy and we, we talked about this briefly.
00:51:26.960
Um, she was using her virginity as a, and her sexuality as a method of control over guys that she was messing with.
00:51:32.960
Like literally holding it over the head, their heads like the sword of Damocles.
00:51:38.960
And she was just playing these guys like, just like, like a fiddle.
00:51:42.960
Um, guys get over the whole wanting a virgin thing.
00:51:47.960
If a woman tells you that she is a virgin, odds are that she's lying.
00:51:50.960
Um, you know, when, when you talk about the data, whenever they pull, they show these polls.
00:51:55.960
Oh, only 20% of women who were pulled said, said they were cheating.
00:52:02.960
And the workarounds, it's like, they'll, they'll give oral, then say that doesn't count.
00:52:18.960
I talked to this lady the other day and I was like, I don't know how these guys believe
00:52:22.960
these women when they're like 27 or 28 that they're virgin.
00:52:28.960
But like 27, what was she doing for the past decade?
00:52:38.960
And I was like, and I told her, I'm like, really, you did nothing else.
00:52:41.960
And she's like, Oh, well, of course I did other.
00:52:45.960
And again, you know, maybe some guys, maybe some guys think that if a woman gives throat
00:52:54.960
But if you gave three throat hugs at the same time, are you still a virgin?
00:52:58.960
That logic makes no, you can get an STD from it.
00:53:01.960
So like you can get an incurable STD, but you're a virgin.
00:53:08.960
Like I had interviewed a thousand women and I was just so done by the end.
00:53:12.960
I'm like, are you one girl on the show said she was a virgin before the show.
00:53:17.960
She told a different guy on the show that like, she was telling him about this day, her
00:53:23.960
And he, on the show was like, you just, and then three, the ones that use it as marketing
00:53:31.960
and they can't give up like the Lolo Joneses, you know, I don't know if she was, but let's
00:53:37.960
Like she couldn't give up the clout for being a virgin.
00:53:44.960
Because she's just, you know, she's, she seems like kind of a weirdo.
00:53:49.960
If you get a woman in her thirties or forties, who's a virgin, she's going to be strange.
00:53:54.960
You know, to maintain that that long, she's got to be unusual.
00:53:58.960
And you talk to the guys and you're like, oh, strange is okay.
00:54:08.960
Or like I've talked to women who, um, I've let people swim in the Hershey highway.
00:54:32.960
Well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be able to identify it.
00:54:57.960
Uh, but there are some women that, that believe that, uh, there are surgeries that women can
00:55:13.960
It's not gonna, there's someone that's going to do it.
00:55:17.960
And there's one, there's some, there's one woman on the internet.
00:55:22.960
She was talking about how God restored her coochie.
00:55:24.960
And then, and the other woman was like, wait, don't you have five kids?
00:55:32.960
You know, but there are, there are ceremonies in churches.
00:55:37.960
This is why I say, you know, watch out for the church con.
00:55:45.960
And so they've got this whole praying and restoring virginity.
00:55:57.960
Some guy came up with that to market it, um, to, to get away to market women that are
00:56:03.960
coming off the streets that they want to get married to these knuckleheads sitting in the
00:56:08.960
pews who believe everything this guy with a suit on says, because he's got a Bible in
00:56:12.960
front of him, whether he's preaching from the Bible or not, there's a whole different
00:56:16.960
And they're going to, they're going to get sold a, um, you know, they're going to get
00:56:22.960
And, and, uh, instead of trying to get women to understand that there's going to be a day
00:56:28.960
of reckoning for your behavior, just like men, there's a day of reckoning for you simple
00:56:36.960
If, if you're a, if you're going down that three or four train or stroll or lane forever,
00:56:41.960
uh, at some point you're going to run out of tread on those tires.
00:56:46.960
Riley Reed just got married to a decent looking dude.
00:56:50.960
He's a decent looking dude, but really, um, like, like this, this dude is an empty shell
00:56:56.960
I think what happens and you could tell me if I'm wrong, guys look at the conservative
00:57:00.960
women and then they start to not notice the difference.
00:57:03.960
And so they just say, well, at least like Riley Reed, and I've talked about this on the
00:57:09.960
I think she pulled it off cause she brings in her hot friends to do threesomes.
00:57:13.960
So like, yeah, like that would be a big selling point.
00:57:23.960
I'm like, guys for like a threesome once a week, would you put up with it?
00:57:33.960
Look, most, you know, most, and I told you, I did some work for some of the, the, um,
00:57:42.960
I was doing some protection work when I lived in California.
00:57:45.960
And so a lot of these women that guys see on screen, if they saw them without their makeup,
00:57:54.960
Like, like seriously, they would be, they would screech like, Oh my God, is that what she
00:58:02.960
Um, not to mention most of them are drug addicts.
00:58:03.960
Um, just because they, they, they get into that just because they, um, the, to kill the,
00:58:09.960
the feeling of how they're throwing their life down the toilet, man.
00:58:16.960
There's a lot of really twisted, um, sexual proclivities.
00:58:19.960
A lot of them wind up with, um, um, being nymphomaniacs where they gotta have it all the
00:58:27.960
And so, you know, that might sound like a good thing.
00:58:29.960
And we talked about this also too, that might sound like a good thing, but okay, what happens
00:58:33.960
Like that, that dude I know who married literally a nymphomaniac and he hurt his back.
00:58:39.960
Like he was like literally bedridden and she went buck wild.
00:58:50.960
And so, you know, guys gotta be, guys gotta be a lot more discerning and, um, be, you
00:58:59.960
You know, women, we talked about how women investigate men.
00:59:05.960
Women, if they want to marry you, I'm not talking about the guy, they just want to hump.
00:59:11.960
They're not going to look into that guy at all.
00:59:12.960
They just feel what they feel and they're going to act on it.
00:59:16.960
Uh, if she wants to marry you, I can almost guarantee you she does not have that primal desire
00:59:25.960
But they will, they will vet their, their past.
00:59:28.960
They will try to find past girlfriends and interview them.
00:59:33.960
Um, we talked about some of these apps where they share information.
00:59:36.960
They'll research your phone number, reverse image searching.
00:59:39.960
They'll look for anything they can, um, to, to, to vet you and see what type of person
00:59:48.960
If they want to marry you or be long-term relationship, they'll study everything you do.
00:59:52.960
So they know your personality and your behavior, excuse me, inside and out.
00:59:57.960
And so, um, you know, guys that are marrying, uh, women that are adult film people, you know,
01:00:02.960
I think that's a very, that's a tiny percentage of men.
01:00:14.960
I recently interviewed, um, a pretty like pretty well-known fighter.
01:00:21.960
Um, and there was someone else at like the place I was interviewing that I asked him, would
01:00:30.960
And it's been amazing how in the last five years, how normal it is for men to accept it.
01:00:36.960
As long as they don't smash on camera, like it, and I know it's like, it's almost like disheartening,
01:00:45.960
you know, and I'm like watching like men that have other options.
01:00:50.960
Because there's, there's, it's been, there's less stigma because it happens so much.
01:00:57.960
How many women got on only fans during the COVID stuff?
01:01:05.960
The vast majority of them didn't make a dime on only fans.
01:01:12.960
The average, they don't, they don't make anything.
01:01:15.960
You put in your most prized possession on the internet and making $250 a month.
01:01:20.960
And, and then, and then, you know, so you look at it from this standpoint, if you're
01:01:23.960
a guy, you marry a woman, everyone's seen her private parts.
01:01:38.960
I think sometimes the girls can kind of wipe it decently clean where it's not easily
01:01:47.960
But normal people aren't going to like look that hard.
01:01:56.960
I've actually, I told you one I found recently where she actually did scrub it.
01:01:59.960
But, um, but you know, I found it, I didn't, didn't find all the content, but I found the
01:02:03.960
page and I found the, um, the, the, what they call the thumbnail or screenshot or whatever
01:02:09.960
And you know, this was a woman who had previously denied, uh, to my client that she'd had any
01:02:16.960
Um, and then, you know, then we talked about how some of her associations, she was hanging
01:02:25.960
I'm like, these are the guys I look, I know a lot of shady characters.
01:02:29.960
Um, you know, and, and, um, you know, and so, you know, he wound up disqualifying her
01:02:35.960
because this is a very, you know, guys that, that tend to, um, from what I've seen tend
01:02:41.960
to stay married longer and have more successful marriages are guys that tend to vet women the
01:02:48.960
Um, you know, women will look at things sometimes, unfortunately.
01:02:54.960
How much can I get from this guy when I pull the ripcord on our marriage and send him plummeting
01:02:59.960
earthward to the, uh, the finely polished, uh, floors of the family court and go splat.
01:03:07.960
You know, like I know a guy who married a woman just because she had a huge boobs, you
01:03:16.960
Uh, when she wound up, she thought her vajayjay was so good that everybody should have some.
01:03:31.960
And sometimes, sometimes I'm like, do you not notice she's a terrible person?
01:03:35.960
And, and you know, but, but the reason some really good looking women wind up being such
01:03:40.960
awful human beings is because no one ever tells them to go, go kick rocks.
01:03:46.960
You know, and, and, um, you know, and, and if guys would stop putting up with bad behavior
01:03:52.960
more, uh, you know, these, these behavior patterns wouldn't just get like, okay, women who are
01:03:57.960
really violent when they get older, this is a, that's a, that's a woman that has a young
01:04:01.960
girl and a young lady and teenager or whatever else.
01:04:06.960
And, and so, you know, you see some of these videos where they're just doing awful things.
01:04:11.960
Um, and it's like, you know, no guy ever just punched them.
01:04:14.960
And, but if you do punch them, then all, then you're the bad guy.
01:04:20.960
But if you hit her back now, you're, you're an evil doer.
01:04:23.960
And I hate to say it, but at the early ages, somebody needs to punch them, punch them in
01:04:29.960
You know, as men, we grow up understanding that if I, if I mess with a bigger, stronger
01:04:35.960
opponent, odds are, I'm going to get flattened.
01:04:38.960
So you don't mess with a bigger, stronger opponent.
01:04:41.960
Women never really, most don't learn that lesson of, uh, from an early age on the opposite.
01:04:47.960
You know, guys are told not to hit them back and women know that guys, most guys aren't
01:04:53.960
And, um, and, and, you know, so, you know, I remember talking to me, well, you know, what
01:05:00.960
I said, technically you, you supposed to be able to defend yourself.
01:05:04.960
However, if you defend yourself against a woman who's attacking you, odds are you're
01:05:10.960
And so the best thing you can do as a guy is get the hell out of there.
01:05:16.960
I know guys now, um, that are frightened of their wives, not because physically they
01:05:29.960
If he, if he does do something, um, all she has to do is call the police and say, he did
01:05:37.960
You know, so that's what they're really frightened of.
01:05:42.960
And, um, you know, I remember I was out one day and I was shadowing, uh, I was shadowing
01:05:49.960
somebody and, you know, some woman started getting really belligerent with me.
01:05:53.960
And I just told her, I said, look, if you think I'm one of these dudes that won't punch
01:05:56.960
you in the face in front of everybody, I said, go ahead, try me, see what happens.
01:06:01.960
I said, I said, I'm confident that I could beat you up and your friends.
01:06:05.960
Uh, naturally I'm not going to go around punching women in the face, but I just wanted her out
01:06:08.960
of, I just wanted her out of my, out of my space.
01:06:10.960
But some women can get so, I'm not saying all, I'm talking about just a certain percentage
01:06:16.960
of them, um, can get so obnoxious because they've never had that discipline instilled
01:06:25.960
That's replaced by police and the courts and everything else.
01:06:29.960
And so they feel like they're untouchable until they run into that guy who doesn't care about
01:06:35.960
And that's the guy they usually wind up sleeping with and dating for years.
01:06:40.960
Talking about what a horrible abuse, abusive person he was.
01:06:44.960
What percent of women under 30, do you think have actually, let's say what percent of women
01:06:50.960
between 18 to 25 right now, do you think have done some sort of sex work?
01:07:02.960
And so look, there's, and we talked about this, just my own category.
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And how attractive, what's like the minimum floor?
01:07:06.960
Cause I mean, half of them are going to be fat.
01:07:15.960
Um, you know, I would say the, the floor would be probably be a five, but when they
01:07:22.960
put on makeup, they're going to be a six, maybe a seven, six and a half.
01:07:25.960
And so it's just a young makeup looks like, yeah, exactly.
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It looks magical at that stage, you know, but, uh, there's, there's all types, but you
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know, there's, there's different types of sex work, you know, just my own categories.
01:07:37.960
I've got two main categories, hard sex work and soft sex work, right?
01:07:44.960
Hard sex work is they're on the streets doing the host role on the trail, the track, whatever
01:07:50.960
Every city, every major city has one, even the smallest cities have one where they walk
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Then you've got the, the women that are on the, the escort sites.
01:08:02.960
And the funny thing is back page wasn't even a major player when it came to.
01:08:06.960
That sort of, that sort of work, the sex work, you know, they're, they're actually minor,
01:08:23.960
And so the soft, soft, um, sex work goes in different categories.
01:08:29.960
You've got the, um, from Instagram, you know, the IG, um, you know, I showed you that screenshot
01:08:36.960
A young lady sent me her price list on over, over IG instant message.
01:08:48.960
They are sex workers, but they've got plausible deniability because somehow it's legal.
01:08:53.960
So you got, um, sex work, but it's a subscription.
01:08:56.960
You pay a monthly, a weekly fee for a certain amount of visits.
01:08:59.960
Um, and supposedly these visits are only for dinner and companionship.
01:09:16.960
They'll pay a professional cuddler to lay down with them in bed or on the couch and cuddle.
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And do you see a difference in socioeconomic class?
01:09:25.960
Uh, used to be, it was mostly driven by, uh, poverty.
01:09:30.960
Uh, but you know, as you've seen from some of the, some of my series on, she's not doing
01:09:35.960
There are young women coming from very wealthy backgrounds.
01:09:45.960
She, you know, I, she was on my show before she did it.
01:09:51.960
And the crazy thing is she was actually more pleasant than a lot of the, like, I, what I
01:09:56.960
She's like, yeah, I'm not, she doesn't, people try to shame her behavior and she's like, no,
01:10:05.960
You know, you know, you see some guys on there and they're like, Oh, she's a victim.
01:10:14.960
And then a more soft, um, sex work is that, that older dude that helps her pay a bill every
01:10:25.960
That's the older dude, um, that coach Greg had that thing.
01:10:30.960
That's the guy who, if she needs, if she can't make her car note, you know, um, I know a guy,
01:10:35.960
I know a guy who runs a, um, um, he owns property and most of his tenants are college students.
01:10:43.960
Um, and, um, there are several women that when they can't pay their rent, they pay a different way.
01:10:53.960
If you're having sex with somebody who's going to pay your rent or is going to pay your phone bill,
01:10:57.960
is going to pay your car note or your insurance bill.
01:10:59.960
That's sex work, you know, like, like pure and simple, you know?
01:11:02.960
And so, uh, but people will look at it as though, as though it isn't, but it is indeed sex work.
01:11:07.960
So that's part of the, what I call a soft sex work.
01:11:09.960
You get soft sex work where they got some plausible deniability and the hard sex work where their,
01:11:15.960
their picture is on there and they're just, that's who they are.
01:11:19.960
And that's gotta be more difficult to track, right?
01:11:30.960
Are they more difficult to track because no, no, no, no.
01:11:35.960
Um, I, I got friends in low places and I know, I know a ton of dark siders, uh, dark
01:11:43.960
siders in case your audience doesn't know guys who engage, um, sex workers for their services
01:11:52.960
Some of them, um, I know one guy, he sees a different, um, sex worker five, six times a
01:12:00.960
He, and so when I need answers about things, you know what I mean?
01:12:03.960
Um, even, you know, and, and there's a whole network of them all over the globe of the,
01:12:11.960
And if a woman is engaged in sex work, one of these guys knows about it.
01:12:15.960
Now, even on the escort side, there are escorts that are called UTRs, which is under the radar.
01:12:21.960
So she doesn't have any, any advertisements anywhere.
01:12:24.960
She's not showing up any databases anywhere, but she's doing regular sex work and she's
01:12:32.960
So it's not always easy to find, but you can find it.
01:12:37.960
Uh, you just have to know the right place to look and not just necessarily people, but trends.
01:12:41.960
I'll talk to some of these guys and be like, okay, what's going on?
01:12:49.960
And I even had, um, on more than one occasion where I've sent them a picture of a, of a young
01:12:56.960
lady that I knew was doing sex work, but I didn't have any, any documented proof.
01:13:00.960
And they're like, Oh yeah, I've seen her like 20 times.
01:13:03.960
Uh, like this guy, like some of these guys, they have a ton of money.
01:13:09.960
And so they literally go out of their way to meet and see every new girl they can.
01:13:20.960
And so these women will, you know, they'll reach out to a guy, some of the soft sex work
01:13:25.960
and say, Oh, you know, I need some help paying my bill.
01:13:28.960
And so, Hey, look, if you need to make more money, I can introduce you to some friends
01:13:32.960
And that's how they wind up doing the under the radar thing.
01:13:34.960
And do you see, cause I'm Kevin Samuels would talk about how high end escorts often
01:13:40.960
end up getting married by one of their clients.
01:13:45.960
Um, so high end escorts are typically what they call low volume.
01:13:49.960
So low volume, they might see one or two guys a week where the high volume women will
01:13:58.960
Now they're, they're making, they're making less money per person, the high end escort.
01:14:02.960
Um, you know, if you want to spend a weekend with one of the really, really sought after
01:14:06.960
escorts, you, you paying, you paying 25 grand for a weekend, you know, just for her to hang
01:14:12.960
And during that weekend, she's going to expect you to take her here, take her there.
01:14:15.960
Um, some of them come from wealthy backgrounds, not all of them though.
01:14:18.960
Uh, and, and so what, what happens is, and we talked about this again, again, people are
01:14:25.960
gonna get angry about this, but sex workers understand the male psyche better than most
01:14:39.960
Wives, wives understand their husbands from the standpoint of how they can, you know,
01:14:43.960
they can spot lies or this, that they don't understand how to make their husbands happy.
01:14:48.960
Because we talked about it before, they see it as a, as degrading to want to make their,
01:14:58.960
So making your husband happy is somehow, um, that's somehow bad, but you want your husband
01:15:01.960
to make you happy, but you don't want to return the favor.
01:15:04.960
And so, um, and again, some of the, and we talked about a case I worked on recently.
01:15:09.960
I want to, um, interviewing like, like 40, like a little bit over 40 escorts on a human
01:15:18.960
And so I had to track them down, contact them, actually interview them.
01:15:21.960
And a bunch of them will say that they've actually saved marriages because they're providing
01:15:27.420
something that the guy's wife is not providing anymore, which is physical, um, gratifying
01:15:36.300
You know, just doing that one thing on a regular basis would make more marriages pleasant.
01:15:42.060
But there are so many women that have been taught to utilize sex, like a cudgel to beat
01:15:47.460
their husbands over the head with withholding it, you know?
01:15:58.060
I might get some versus I pay 150, 200, $300 and I get a sure thing.
01:16:03.060
Or some of these women with their dating requirements.
01:16:09.060
You know, first of all, look, if you're too broke to pay for your own babysitter, you
01:16:19.060
Just, you know, just stop making demands like that cause they're ridiculous.
01:16:32.060
I don't, I don't even know what it would be, but, but let's say 200 bucks a night.
01:16:35.060
Then you, you spend say four or $500 on a nice dinner somewhere, right?
01:16:40.060
That's a decent dinner somewhere or a nice restaurant.
01:16:42.060
Um, and so you're looking at six, $700 for a maybe versus $150 for exactly what I want.
01:16:54.060
There's more and more, I'm seeing more and more women engaged in sex work than ever before.
01:16:59.060
Do you think it's also, they get access to higher value guys that they wouldn't get access
01:17:07.060
Um, cause I can imagine like the guy, like a 20 year old is going to get like a, a better,
01:17:14.060
get access to a better guy escorting than you're going to find like on a college campus
01:17:18.060
or, you know, in terms of like value in society, whatever.
01:17:22.060
Well, to, to be a high end escort, number one, you've got to be in the upper echelons of looks.
01:17:27.060
Uh, so, and, but also to your body has to be in, in really good shape.
01:17:32.060
So you, you have to have much more discipline in, in general, right?
01:17:38.060
Because these guys that, um, I know guys that use really expensive escorts and like these women
01:17:44.060
are nines and tens, you know, like, like they're, they're knockouts in every facet, man.
01:17:50.060
You know what I mean? And, and again, I'm not talking about women who look good in makeup.
01:17:57.060
And so these women are born at the, at the upper end of things.
01:18:00.060
Then when they put on makeup, they're out of this world.
01:18:02.060
And so these are the women that are getting the, the really discerning guys.
01:18:06.060
Now, having said that there is a new breed of, of recently or newly wealthy guys
01:18:13.060
that don't understand their value, the tech bros.
01:18:16.060
And I've actually done some work for some of the tech bros.
01:18:18.060
Some of the tech bros and crypto guys are big targets.
01:18:29.060
That's why I was telling you that, um, the, the one girl, the Amareth, um, her husband
01:18:35.060
came on my show the other day and I was, I was telling her like, not her directly, but
01:18:40.060
So I was like, if this doesn't work out, streamers are your future.
01:18:44.060
Cause those are the only ones that are going to date.
01:18:49.060
I don't know for how long, but they'll do it for a bit.
01:18:52.060
And, and, and your high value, high value targets, um, high value male men are high value targets.
01:18:57.060
And once you get to that higher level of wealth and the upper echelons of income, um, here's
01:19:03.060
You're no longer the target of the normie chicks.
01:19:07.060
Now you've got the super sophisticated, really dedicated, really smart, really slick, uh, predatory
01:19:16.060
women who, who have an, uh, an innate or even learned understanding of the male psyche.
01:19:23.060
And they understand how to play their cards just right.
01:19:27.060
And so those are the ones that, that, you know, guys really got to be careful of because
01:19:31.060
they understand, uh, the dynamics and the science of attachment.
01:19:43.060
And this is what there's, this is their playbook.
01:19:47.060
You'll think you got game and you rolled up on her and you were so slick and so smooth.
01:20:13.060
She made the first move, but made him think he did.
01:20:19.060
And so some guys do what they call like the bait hunt.
01:20:22.060
And so the bait hunt is you put some animals, food source somewhere, and then you wait till
01:20:34.060
I'm not in a tree stand, but women understand what you want.
01:20:38.060
They understand how to market and maximize everything they have because they know that men are visual
01:20:48.060
You know, this is why the, the, the female, um, beauty products, clothing, they eclipse those
01:20:58.060
They're like, like there's way more money put into that.
01:21:01.060
Um, the, the better a woman looks, the more chances she has in, in landing a guy that she might want.
01:21:09.060
And so, but these women are already on the higher end of the spectrum, but they also understand
01:21:13.060
that they've got competition from women that are just as attractive as they are and just
01:21:18.060
as smart as they are and just as dedicated to getting what they want.
01:21:23.060
And so they're fighting the competition, but they're going to pull you into thinking
01:21:39.060
And you're only going to get a partial victory.
01:21:41.060
These chicks, if, if now, if they're escorts, then you'll, you know, even then the high end
01:21:48.060
If you just flash them, Hey, here's 10 grand, meet me at whatever.
01:21:51.060
Even then they're going to make you work for it.
01:21:56.060
Because they understand that the more you want to be with them, the more they can charge
01:22:02.060
And so that, that the science of desire, right?
01:22:05.060
And so if I'm, and we talked about this before, I'm walking around with a full nut sack.
01:22:15.060
And so my brain isn't working the way it should.
01:22:17.060
So every set of pretty feet, long legs, shapely backsides, perky boobs, pouty lips, pretty faces,
01:22:25.060
Now I'm going to be paying more attention to those.
01:22:28.060
And as their, their beauty goes up and these high end, I actually know a couple of women
01:22:32.060
that are actually on the upper ends of, of the, the escort business, I guess you could
01:22:41.060
She was, she was, you know, she was a Disney girl.
01:22:51.060
Dude, it's, it's like, like literally man, like, like I've actually had to meet her places
01:22:56.060
and, and dudes are constantly swooping in and circling.
01:23:01.060
And like, like we have no, there's no romance between us at all.
01:23:05.060
Um, she's, she's been, um, she's been a witness for me on a couple of different cases, a few
01:23:10.060
And she just, she's got, she knows she's got so much power over guys.
01:23:24.060
People think I'm harsh in my ratings one to 10, but I don't think most men have seen nines
01:23:30.060
or tens if they don't live in LA, Miami, because if there is a nine or 10 in podunk
01:23:36.060
nowhere, she will be in LA, Miami, Vegas, or New York.
01:23:45.060
I was, uh, when I was working as a, uh, civilian military contractor, you know, sometimes I'd
01:23:50.060
go back cause I'd work three, three months on one month off, six months on one month off.
01:23:56.060
They gave you a lot of R and R because there was just so much stress and so much, uh, unfortunately
01:24:05.060
And so I went on recommendation of a buddy of mine, a Persian dude actually said, said,
01:24:12.060
He said, Chuck, my friend, you must go to Czech Republic.
01:24:18.060
I rented a villa, uh, a car rental car came with it.
01:24:21.060
It was a big place, bigger place than I needed, but I had a whole bunch of cash and you know,
01:24:28.060
You spend, you spend a lot of money, uh, just because you don't know if you don't know your
01:24:32.060
next deployment or your next job is going to be the last.
01:24:36.060
I never saw like, okay, a 10 here would be a six or a seven over there.
01:24:47.060
There are some of the, and again, everything's subjective, right?
01:24:51.060
But there are some of the most beautiful women on the face of the earth with the Czech Republic,
01:24:57.060
Um, some, you know, but I found at least in America, it's like wherever the money is,
01:25:06.060
Like LA, you know, I lived in LA for a while, for a very long time, some beautiful women
01:25:10.060
in LA, like stunning, but, but the Czech Republic, they were all natural beauties.
01:25:15.060
You know, like, like, um, and I did not meet an obese woman the whole time I was in Czech
01:25:21.060
Republic, not saying anything wrong with being obese.
01:25:31.060
Uh, but I'd never met one that was obese or what they call it?
01:25:37.060
You know, there was no, there were, there were no thick women there and they were just absolutely
01:25:46.060
Um, I think for the short term it might work, but I think, you know, it, it all depends
01:25:54.060
Um, I don't like, and again, I lived in LA for us.
01:25:59.060
And so I could, I can pick it out pretty easily.
01:26:04.060
Uh, I, I, me personally, and I think a lot of guys would say is I like women that look
01:26:08.060
good with minimal makeup, hair pulled back in a sundress and flats.
01:26:16.060
You know, but, um, you know, and, and again, men are so visual, but guys get so caught up
01:26:21.060
in the way things look, they can't see past, um, the very, the very surface.
01:26:30.060
Um, you know, but as women get older, I get a neighbor, uh, married to a wealthy guy.
01:26:36.060
She had a bunch of work done when she was younger.
01:26:42.060
Um, everything else is sagging, but boobs look like two parking cones.
01:26:48.060
Uh, her lips are just, Oh God, the lips are the worst.
01:26:51.060
You know, another one of my neighbors, she stays in great shape, great body, very slim,
01:26:59.060
She had some parking cones and she had her lips done.
01:27:02.060
It looked like somebody punched her in the mouth.
01:27:19.060
I've, I've seen women get those and it just changes.
01:27:22.060
Like for the short term, the short term, right?
01:27:26.060
It looked like somebody stuck a Lego backside on their, their butt.
01:27:34.060
I've seen something that would look just like, no, some are so bad, but I'm like that.
01:27:38.060
I've seen some where I'm like, I would never have guessed personally.
01:27:43.060
Maybe I'm, maybe I haven't seen the right ones because the ones I've seen, they literally
01:27:46.060
look like somebody took giant chewed up pieces of bubble gum and stuck it in their
01:28:00.060
No, it was in, um, it was an ad for like a surgeon in Dallas doesn't for 1500 bucks.
01:28:05.060
See, I, I'm like, I think people are a lot more plastic than people.
01:28:11.060
Well, you know, you got guys getting plastic surgery.
01:28:16.060
You know, like I have a couple of friends that are bodybuilders and they, they, they
01:28:19.060
would send me pictures of guys that had the fake ab implants.
01:28:22.060
Like that doesn't look anywhere near real or fake pecs.
01:28:26.060
They would just, just go to the, let's go to the gym.
01:28:33.060
Like, like how somebody looks when they're working out has a lot to do with their genetic
01:28:39.060
And so, um, you know, I, I know a guy, he's actually, he actually does steroids.
01:28:43.060
Uh, he looks like, it looks like crap, but he looks better than he did before.
01:28:53.060
Um, I'm not saying there aren't side effects, but yeah.
01:28:56.060
And, and you gotta be, you gotta be really careful.
01:28:58.060
It's like with guys that get on, if the guy, guy gets on TRT, I knew a dude that took, um,
01:29:03.060
you know, and the problem with steroids in this country is most of the steroids people
01:29:08.060
And again, I got buddies that are, that are bodybuilders and, uh, most of them are made
01:29:16.060
And so that's why it's like, okay, if you look at, there's a place called Oxygen Gym in,
01:29:28.060
And so guys, bodybuilders would go to Oxygen Gym and just get fricking monstrous.
01:29:36.060
No, they're getting pure pharmaceutical grade steroids.
01:29:41.060
Uh, what they do is guys will buy precursor chemicals, uh, from China and then mix them
01:29:47.060
And so there's always, you know, cross contamination and all the rest of this stuff.
01:29:54.060
Um, you know, my thing is, you know, I like, I'm not a bodybuilder.
01:30:01.060
I had no interest in never doing that just cause I've seen too many guys, um, you know,
01:30:06.060
get really bad side effects, like really bad acne.
01:30:09.060
Um, and then there's, you know, making your junk shrink.
01:30:14.060
Like why, like, like that, that, that, that alone should be a deterrent, but guys want
01:30:20.060
Like I got one buddy, he was Mr. Universe, uh, these years ago.
01:30:24.060
Um, and to, to maintain that, that form, they've got to keep juicing.
01:30:32.060
And so he's got to keep, he's got to keep that up.
01:30:36.060
Uh, when you're younger, that's one thing that puts so much stress on your internal organs,
01:30:43.060
You know, but, um, but back to, back to women with the plastic surgery.
01:31:00.060
I'll just, I'll see these fat women and I'm like, I can't argue that doesn't look
01:31:06.060
Well, look, I'm like, they're not going to go to the gym anyway, right?
01:31:13.060
And guys aren't going to really be able to tell, I guess, I guess if that's really good,
01:31:18.060
I reacted to a, can you tell who had plastic surgery thing?
01:31:21.060
And I was just surprised at how many I got wrong.
01:31:23.060
You know, I, here's the thing I don't understand, man.
01:31:25.060
Like, like people who genetically are known racially for having giant backsides, getting a BBL.
01:31:36.060
Like you're not going to be able to fit in your car.
01:31:44.060
Or, you know, a convertible unless it's a Cadillac or something.
01:31:55.060
Do you find that the ones with a lot of plastic surgery have like other issues too?
01:32:03.060
Most, even the ones that seem really confident are really, really insecure.
01:32:07.060
And that's, you know, and again, that insecurity.
01:32:14.060
And that insecurity actually makes them vulnerable.
01:32:18.060
It does because they're willing to do things to, um, to make someone happy or, or gain someone's
01:32:24.060
or gain validation and how far are they willing to go for that validation?
01:32:35.060
If you've got a woman that's super, super insecure, she's, unless she can find some way
01:32:39.060
to get some confidence in her looks and, and those, those insecurities come from childhood.
01:32:44.060
Like I know a woman now, she's beautiful, but her sister, she's about an eight.
01:32:49.060
Her sister's a 10 and she's insecure because she grew up because her sister was a pretty
01:32:58.060
Like, like there she's, she's, she's, she's outstanding.
01:33:01.060
And I'm sitting there like, like, what do you, what are you insecure about?
01:33:05.060
Because it came from, from early, early childhood.
01:33:07.060
So she has this, um, you know, really deeply ingrained insecurity that just, that might never
01:33:14.060
You know, are there any professions you recommend for women?
01:33:18.060
Like, like when men are selecting women, are there any that had more green flags or, I
01:33:24.060
mean, a lot of guys will say like from the trads will say, well, she shouldn't have a job.
01:33:28.060
I'm like, okay, well she's got, she's probably doing something.
01:33:33.060
I was just wondering if there's like ones where like men.
01:33:38.060
Um, it, it, it, if she's going to be a three Oh four, she's going to be a three Oh four.
01:33:50.060
Um, there are professions that are more prone to three Oh four activity nurses.
01:34:01.060
It goes down, uh, surgeons, doctors, um, you know, maybe not, maybe not yours.
01:34:06.060
You're not, maybe not your spouse, but a lot of her other coworkers are.
01:34:12.060
I know an oncology nurse and she'll, she'll tell us, tell me stories.
01:34:17.060
Like there's certain rooms that they'll put up to like a, how do they not have lawsuits
01:34:27.060
But don't the women always come out later and not really because most of them are married.
01:34:33.060
Like, so it's that mutually assured destruction thing.
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Some married people like messing around with it.
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The married people, because you know, they got just, just as much to lose as they do.
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And so, um, I would say if you're going to look for a green flag, um, avoid being unequally
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Um, I don't hang it up anywhere because I don't think it means anything.
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Um, I'm not saying anybody else's, uh, if you're in STEM, different story, right?
01:35:15.060
Um, the, the, the issue guys are, are the mistake they're making is they're letting
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women paint themselves as something that they're not.
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Uh, so what women will do is they'll find a way to get into the space of men.
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So one of my neighbors are the one who just got a bunch of work done.
01:35:36.060
She wants, she's actually said she wants a wealthy, she wants to marry a wealthy man.
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She wants to, she wants to be able to participate in things where, where men are.
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Watch out for women that are making themselves available in your space.
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Uh, that's incongruent with where they were before.
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So be really, really careful of what I call the chameleon.
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Because yeah, maybe she wants you, but why does she want you?
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And, and maybe you want her because you think what you see is a genuine article, what
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And so, but again, women are really, really good at that, especially if they're on the upper
01:36:19.060
end of looks and guys will ignore a whole bunch of stuff for, like you said, for hot
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I was like, I, I knew a guy years ago that brought a woman home and beautiful.
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And I'm like, and so, and so that should get, guys will let a chick who's affiliated with
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But, but you know, but, but they'll roll the dice on a hot chick.
01:37:07.060
And so like, if you're ugly, especially if you're a guy, like you ever noticed there's
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Um, her parents had thrown her out 20 years old.
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She was, you know, like most drug addicts, they were, they were stealing.
01:37:30.060
So he met her, talked to her for a little while, then invited her to get something to eat,
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got something to eat and said, well, you need a place to stay.
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And I was like, dude, so you let a meth head move in with you and live in your house because
01:37:48.060
And so really beautiful, really beautiful people.
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And 22, you could be like a five at 20 or seven in the real world.
01:37:56.060
But if you're really beautiful, like you could be filthy and have on rags and you're going
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to look beautiful, but you're not going to get that far down because someone's going
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I did this and I'm sitting there like, like, are you serious, man?
01:38:13.060
So you're saying, but men should watch out for the women that pick up like a hobby or
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But it's not something they actually want to do.
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And so that, that might be a temporary, um, endeavor just to get their foot in the door.
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And so you always have to, guys have to be realistic.
01:38:34.060
So if I'm a guy and I'm a three, but I got a ton of money and some chick who's a seven
01:38:41.060
nines and tens, aren't going out with a three, even if he's a billionaire, they're just not
01:38:45.060
They're just not going to do it because they know they can find a billionaire who's better
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a billionaire who's better looking than that three.
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Um, and so you have to be honest with yourself.
01:38:57.060
Well, clearly she wants money, but she won't tell you she wants money, but you have to have
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And if you're willing to do that and you understand what you're signing up for, that's fine.
01:39:07.060
Just, just be able to put yourself in a position to make an informed decision.
01:39:12.060
You know, there's always a story behind what most women, most women will put their best
01:39:18.060
And so that's why it's like when guys meet women that are mean and nasty, when they first
01:39:23.060
meet them, like, bro, it's only going to go downhill from there.
01:39:29.060
So have you found like more success with guys that meet at work on the apps?
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Like the fuse I'm, I'm sure in your profession, you're a complete cynic, but I'm trying to
01:39:44.060
I'm a cynic, but I'm like, you know, maybe today I'm feeling hopeful.
01:39:48.060
So yeah, I don't, I don't believe in hope, but here's what I will say.
01:39:56.060
You're not going to find a chick that you actually want to, because, because, because
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And if you're successful, then they go out of business very rapidly.
01:40:05.060
So the algorithms are not set up for you to actually meet somebody that you're actually
01:40:11.060
Now, if you're just looking for women to smash, smash away date, dating app is a place
01:40:17.060
Um, Instagram is a new dating app as well, too.
01:40:21.060
Um, and so what I've told guys and guys that I've, you know, they've kind of helped try
01:40:27.060
to guide some of these, some of these, some clients wind up being friends, uh, because,
01:40:31.060
you know, some of these guys, like, especially some of the tech bros, the finance bros, these
01:40:40.060
Well, you know, before they became wealthy, they were nerds.
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They, they, they, they should have had you on staff.
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Like literally they're, they're like a fish out of water, man.
01:40:56.060
Cause like some of these guys have gotten played so badly, man.
01:41:00.060
And, and so, um, in the wild is the best way to meet women in the wild, meaning natural
01:41:10.060
If you can meet a woman out in the wild and you don't have to be, okay, some of the pickup
01:41:16.060
But you don't have to be a pickup artist to meet a woman.
01:41:19.060
Uh, if you're a pickup artist, you can meet more women.
01:41:22.060
Uh, like some of the PUA guys are actually really good.
01:41:27.060
Some of them are, some of them are, I didn't mean to use fugazi as that, that guy's thing,
01:41:31.060
the no fugazi thing, but some of them are fake.
01:41:33.060
Fugazi means fake with Italian people, but, um, out in the wild is a really good way.
01:41:44.060
If your buddy who's not married refers you to a woman, she's probably a good, good chick
01:41:52.060
If your married friend's wife recommends a chick to you, run for the.
01:42:08.060
Like most, you know, and, and, and, uh, one of them, I actually did a speaking engagement,
01:42:14.060
Um, and you know, a guy hired me and paid me to talk to his, his, his executive team.
01:42:20.060
And his wife was like, Hey, I want you to meet a friend of mine.
01:42:23.060
And yeah, she just kind of did this cold and she, she brings it.
01:42:28.060
She brings her over and she goes, Hey, I want you to meet.
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Uh, and, and, uh, and she was like, and she was like, so you want to see her again?
01:42:53.060
I think, um, uh, that one, I think I met her and on park Avenue and we're in a park,
01:42:58.060
a big shopping district, a bunch of really overpriced stores.
01:43:01.060
A friend of mine has a jewelry store down there and there's a little cafe and a little alcove
01:43:05.060
in there and I was in there just drinking some coffee.
01:43:10.060
She looked over at me as I just literally gave her the nod.
01:43:18.060
And so we talked for a while then wound up, um, we didn't even date.
01:43:31.060
Um, could you put them on the screen if you don't mind?
01:43:52.060
Um, also guys, if you want more information on how to dig deeper into a woman's
01:43:56.060
past and we filmed a bunch of content before this for, um, in the school group that Shaw
01:44:01.060
was talking around, not Shaw, Shiv was talking about.
01:44:04.060
So if you guys are interested, the link to that is in the description.
01:44:09.060
We're going to have events at some point too, where I can meet up with everyone.
01:44:20.060
It's, um, um, you're, you're one of my favorites, man.
01:44:24.060
And, uh, I think you've got, um, a lot of, uh, really exciting things going on in the
01:44:29.060
future and I'm looking forward to, uh, watching you grow and succeed.
01:44:35.060
I can't wait for you to like really dive head first into your channel.
01:44:41.060
Well, I'm, I'm actually got some plans in the works of, um, starting to do that.
01:44:46.060
So people keep complaining about the, the audio qualities.
01:44:51.060
All right, guys, I put my money where my mouth is actually bought a mic and I've actually
01:44:54.060
got plans of, um, doing some stories and putting them on video.
01:45:00.060
Um, well we're going to link your channel in the description.
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