Pro Choice Man Contradicts Himself In Real Time
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In this episode, we discuss abortion, rape, and rape culture in general. We discuss the abortion pill, rape culture, and abortion. We also talk about rape culture and abortion, and how it should be legalized in the future.
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question for a woman that aborts a kid after six months should she face jail time um no that's see
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that's touchy obviously certain people go through certain traumatic experiences which would make
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them maybe angry in in that sense but i don't think a woman should go to jail for having an
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abortion what if what if um the mom has the kid and then the dad throws it off of a bridge should
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he go to jail pardon sorry if the dad if the woman has the kid at six months old and then the dad
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throws it off the bridge should he go to jail well of course that's murder wouldn't it be the same
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thing though no because when it's still it's still inside of the woman it hasn't it's still inside of
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the woman it's a part of the woman so the woman can still use the whole my body my choice when she's
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physically given birth that is a human entity in its own yeah breathing by itself doing everything by
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so then so then if we're going to go off a location then shouldn't you just legalize it up to nine
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months no like the day before she gives birth she says no because i think i hear what you're saying
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however i think that because due to the development and how a baby is developed i think it's more humane
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to do it when the the the fetus or whatever the terminology is hasn't fully developed into a child
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yeah i still am pro choice but i'm saying it's like there needs to be a certain stop to it i'm
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i'm for it for three months all right i'm maybe four at a push yeah but no so my only question is i'm
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i'm just curious why there would not if you don't if you think it should be illegal at six right which
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i think we would agree on right six months is too far along yeah i'm just curious you should not make
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that decision it just seems like whenever there's a consequence for women like we always want to bail
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women out no no not at all so it's like when when there would be a legal consequence then we're like
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oh no that's too far no no i watched something yesterday on on prime and it was about a woman
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who basically um was uh obsessed with this guy so much to the point where i'm pretty sure i haven't
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finished the series yet but i'm pretty sure she committed suicide in order to frame him now i know
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there's some women that do deserve to be reprimanded for their actions however being pregnant and
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having that you don't know the reason how someone's got pregnant you don't know their
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financial position even in the it could be rape as well like you have to even in the example with
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the guy you don't know the reason why he wanted to throw the kid off the bridge yeah that's going
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to be some type of mental problem right but i'm correct but i'm saying we all have reasons we commit
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crimes but if that was a crime like why would she not have a punishment yeah some people commit
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crimes because of money some people commit crimes because of revenge some people commit crimes for
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madness we don't know however i think abortion is is not necessarily a crime it can't be
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compared to physically throwing a human being off of a well it would be if it was illegal like it is a
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crime after there's a girl that's going to jail right now um overtaking the abortion pills too late
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so it is a crime sorry go ahead um well and you guys can interject too if you have anything go ahead
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i was um i was gonna say like the the madness of you know about rapists right yes you know about
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they have actual rights over so grapists grape someone they get pregnant they the grapist and the grapist
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family have rights over the child that they've just created through grape it sounds freaking weird me
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saying grape someone i'm sorry it's not funny uh is that true if he's convicted he's convicted and if
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you look into it there is a family that ended up fighting for custody of their son who raped this young
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girl over the the child and they got visitation rights and they got like excuse me like you have
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they imagine just imagine how traumatized you would be anyway and then you have to you have to be did
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he go to jail for it that stuff yeah that one that i read he got convicted okay so his his mom i'm just
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surprised his mom oh his mom was like the one that said i want to be in the child's life and they said
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no as you would and she won't and she was allowed to see the baby now it's like you've heard it vice
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versa where a female teacher will grape so so tell me but she can put the kid on child support and she
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yeah and the amount of the amount of disgusting disgusting females right females that do it
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and they get nothing because they're a girl because it's a woman and it's like i don't know it's very
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much a double standard it's in in a in a in a in a cornographic way it's like oh my head like my old
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teacher my older teacher fancies me when it's a younger boy and an older woman right but if you switch
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it and it's this uproar everyone's like that's disgusting oh my gosh like getting arrested
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these women are going into prison and then getting sent money daily from these weirdo guys
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yeah that are like oh i wish you was my teacher and sending them money and they're now like glorified
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like it's like i mean girls do the ted bondy had like all the girls do the same oh yeah i know i know
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they do but i know that it's it's a problem because it's but the grape is thing that's another
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reason why i think they should that's why that's one pushing me to one side it's like if you want to
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keep that child and and it's a child of rape cool that's your the dad shouldn't have access to it
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exactly she has to she has to then see this rapist for the rest of her life right yeah yeah it does sound
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though that that oh that sounds really traumatic i definitely agree with that but it does sound
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that the solution to that though is a legal issue related to parental rights and the solution is not
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abortion in that situation what would it be well it would it it it's not really abortion until i'm
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saying my point is that could be a problem that i didn't have access so i wasn't able to get an
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abortion and now i'm having to have this child with a grapist sure yeah no i understand that would
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be a really difficult situation to be in um but again it sounds well firstly it does sound like a
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better solution to tackle that is obviously reducing rape first of all i accept that that will never be
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zero percent um but even with the with the problem that you're raising again this sounds like a a problem
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that we need to tackle with kind of rapist rights um rather than then say abortion is a solution to
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that and you know in that situation i don't think it's a solution at all right but um my point is just
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that there's a lot of these girls that talk about it have said they've not had access i just i just so
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i just think at the end of the day 90 of abortions nowadays are elective and they're women making bad
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decisions can i i just think that's it's no i disagree well yeah i think it's women being
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irresponsible because we went around and everybody said the reasons why they got an abortion and
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or their friends got an abortion and the majority was wrong partner wrong time so it kind of sounds
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irresponsible can i just say like toxic partners they're not always obvious in the beginning
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so you might think someone is great you have a child like later down the line and then they're
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toxic like if you see these warning signs surely you know get out sooner but but it does sometimes
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and i would have a lot of sympathy if those women um asked their parents for their advice because half
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the time these women they won't ask their parents advice and when their parents give them advice and
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say no that's a bad guy they don't listen date them anyway but that's some circumstances there's not
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um not everyone yeah not everyone can get advice from their parents as well exactly i'm not saying every
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single person but i am saying i see that often and in the majority of times in toxic relationships
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i just see women not listening but you also have to consider their friends will say something too
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like i mean i'm sure all of you have said something to a friend that that boyfriend is toxic or crazy
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and the women don't listen 100 but you always have to think about the women as well and
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there's sometimes women are in vulnerable situations people deal with mental health they maybe
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can't feel like they can't leave there's a lot of different circumstances no i know but to me this is just
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excuses when at the end of the day it's you making a choice and i think you're responsible for the
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choices you make you know do you know sorry to cut you you know what not every woman is strong there's
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a lot of weak women out here okay and they're weak for all different type of reasons yeah and they're
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not able to see a good man yeah a lot of these women might have had a really bad relationship
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and then instead of taking the necessary time to heal they get into another relationship and what
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happens is they see this person this new guy as something amazing because he's probably better
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than the last one he was abusive yeah but the next guy still isn't prince charming still isn't
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gonna be there still might be there for two three years yeah but but but it takes it takes a good
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my thing is like take responsibility for your choices i hear you but you you have to understand
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that some people are not very intelligent some people don't are not awakened to certain things and
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they just make terrible decisions but i just hear that's an excuse but what about the men in this
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like what i mean aren't they also responsible for i mean takes two to tango yeah exactly it's like
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is the woman is the woman supposed to make sure that the the male wears a condom and also take it
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countries up they also have to take the concept yes i do think you should make sure that the person
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you're sleeping with is wearing a condom and you're right we could say we're condom equally responsible
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fine fine we'll agree with that but you know with the women we have plan b we have abortion
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um we also have um we also have um what do you call it what 44 forms of birth control we have all
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these different we can get the thing in your arm you can get an iud you can take the pill
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