JustPearlyThings - Recap of HEATED @FreshFitMiami Podcast With @thedatinggamewithtroyfrancis And @sukainabenzakour8899

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00:35:02.960 I was just kind of like, you know what, I wish you best.

00:35:05.900 I would think, did I make him that?

00:35:08.480 Like, that's what I would think.

00:35:13.380 Yeah.

00:35:15.940 It's kind of an unusual situation these days, though, isn't it?

00:35:18.300 I mean, like, people don't have a problem coming out,

00:35:20.440 so it'd be kind of weird.

00:35:21.660 Well, not weird, but, you know.

00:35:22.920 I think he came from a very strict background.

00:35:27.380 What ethnicity was he?

00:35:28.940 I just don't want to be too, because I don't know if he's even out,

00:35:32.180 but he came from a Middle Eastern background,

00:35:34.960 and I think he was Muslim, I believe.

00:35:38.020 So he was probably.

00:35:38.900 It was really difficult for him, I think, to come out.

00:35:41.440 And, I mean, in the end, he was kind of honest with me

00:35:43.440 and just sort of said, like, you know what,

00:35:46.500 like, I haven't been honest about my sexuality and things like that.

00:35:50.020 I mean, it was fine.

00:35:50.740 I think I'd only gone on, like, two or three dates with him,

00:35:52.900 so it wasn't even.

00:35:54.140 It's a very thoughtful gift.

00:35:55.500 But he was really sweet, actually,

00:35:57.380 and gave me lots of, like, medical advice.

00:35:59.720 So, you know, he was great to call up with.

00:36:02.600 You needed to find something out.

00:36:05.480 Well, there's always these side benefits, isn't there?

00:36:08.420 Exactly.

00:36:09.120 Would you have considered gender reassignment for him?

00:36:14.760 I don't know.

00:36:15.920 I think I just, yeah, I don't know.

00:36:19.620 Yeah, I don't know.

00:36:21.120 No, absolutely not.

00:36:22.940 What is the solution to modern dating?

00:36:24.460 I mean, so you think it's getting harder, right?

00:36:27.380 It's getting really hard, yeah.

00:36:28.820 I did a shoot.

00:36:30.000 Like, I did this, like, AI shoot yesterday,

00:36:31.800 and there was, like, a bunch of men behind cameras,

00:36:34.200 and I just randomly asked them.

00:36:36.140 I was like, are you guys, like, dating?

00:36:38.680 What do you think about dating?

00:36:39.520 And they were all like, oh, my God, it's so hard.

00:36:42.760 These were, like, grown men, just like, you know, tech guys.

00:36:46.260 I think.

00:36:46.940 And they were like, it's so hard.

00:36:48.600 They were like, you can't get any dates.

00:36:50.540 Everybody's just fake.

00:36:51.980 There's so many options.

00:36:52.940 And I was like, wow.

00:36:53.800 I think the world is just going to go the way it's going to go.

00:36:56.620 I think 20% of men are going to get laid a bunch.

00:37:00.300 And have a bunch of chicks. 0.99

00:37:02.300 I think, you know, half of, you know, maybe 20% of women will get married and stay married.

00:37:08.820 Half of women will be side chicks for a lifetime. 1.00

00:37:11.640 Side chicks? 1.00

00:37:12.120 And half of women will be on OnlyFans.

00:37:15.760 Oh, my God.

00:37:17.760 Interesting.

00:37:18.300 No, it'll be interesting to see.

00:37:19.840 I think we're going to see a really big increase in the amount of sex workers. 0.99

00:37:23.200 I think we're already seeing it.

00:37:24.840 I think it's going to be more normal to have sex worker teachers, congressmen, all that stuff.

00:37:29.720 Wow.

00:37:30.020 Because you're already starting to see it in America.

00:37:31.940 There's, like, someone running for office.

00:37:33.780 That was a former, like, she had, like, nudes on the Internet, that sort of thing. 0.90

00:37:37.780 Wow.

00:37:38.240 Okay. 0.68

00:37:39.120 I think if they start taking away some of these government benefits for women, I think we're going to see a huge influx in the amount of women on sex, doing sex work. 1.00

00:37:47.740 I think it's higher.

00:37:49.840 Then we even think, if you include things like sugar dating.

00:37:53.480 Yeah.

00:37:54.080 I would guess, like, a quarter of women have done some sort of sex work. 1.00

00:37:59.640 Interesting.

00:38:00.480 Okay.

00:38:01.360 And people think I over-inflate that.

00:38:03.400 I think I under-inflate it.

00:38:05.480 If you include IG models being flown out, if you include sugar dating, if you include cam work.

00:38:12.340 Oh, yeah.

00:38:12.820 I mean, that's a whole different mode, isn't it?

00:38:13.440 Well, the shoot, yeah, because the Instagram stuff, I mean, you don't even need to officially be, well, I mean, you know more about this than me, but you don't officially need to be on a sugar site.

00:38:24.000 Because if you're getting guys flying into DMs anyway, saying, hey, come to Miami or whatever, and I'll pay the ticket.

00:38:30.780 And, you know, then that, yeah, it's happening.

00:38:33.880 And it's clear, it's clearly happening because you look at these women and you can see.

00:38:38.500 Oh, yeah, it's definitely happening.

00:38:40.720 I mean, I know so many people who've done it.

00:38:43.720 And it's so easy as well.

00:38:45.880 It's just, like, they match with, well, it's not even just match.

00:38:49.420 Sometimes they just slide in your DMs and just say, look, I'll fly you out tomorrow.

00:38:54.100 It's so easy.

00:38:55.340 Well, I think the solution, though, for guys, I mean, it's to get in the top 20% of men, you're going to get a ton of chicks.

00:39:01.480 No, but it is the solution, really.

00:39:04.860 Yeah, for guys, yeah.

00:39:05.940 It kind of is the solution.

00:39:07.360 And I don't think, I mean, in a way, I don't think it's, how can I put this?

00:39:13.900 I don't think it's a terrible thing if it does become more transactional because I think the transactional nature of it has always been there to some extent. 0.86

00:39:21.560 It is a masculine, you know, people say, oh, you're simping beta, you know, you're paying and all that kind of shit.

00:39:27.960 But the reality is that, well, as I think it was Sartain said, you know, money is a proxy for competency, right? 0.92

00:39:36.420 Yeah.

00:39:36.800 Women are fine, fine, fine, fine, uh, competency and men attractive.

00:39:41.140 And look, at the end of the day, what's more fun?

00:39:44.180 If you've got two dudes of equal, like, attractiveness or physicality or whatever, and one is saying, hey, let's go to, let's go to Italy for the weekend.

00:39:52.260 We'll go to the coast.

00:39:53.020 It's going to be fucking amazing. 0.88

00:39:53.780 And the other one's like, oh, you know, they've got a sale on Steak Baked at Gregg's, you know, like, which one are you going to go for? 0.95

00:39:59.780 I love Gregg's.

00:40:01.000 Gregg's is great.

00:40:01.720 For the record?

00:40:02.480 Yeah.

00:40:02.900 Yeah.

00:40:03.040 Well, and I just think it doesn't really matter what I think in a way because the world's going the way it's going.

00:40:09.500 Yeah.

00:40:09.760 And that's what I think sometimes the trad cons, they're like, go back, go back.

00:40:13.200 I'm like, I can't change the whole freaking culture.

00:40:16.420 Yeah. 0.86

00:40:16.980 Like, even the idea of a culture war.

00:40:18.740 I'm like, how successful have you guys been in changing the culture?

00:40:22.400 Is there less sex workers? 0.95

00:40:24.540 Is there less, quote, unquote, degeneracy?

00:40:26.900 No.

00:40:28.360 No.

00:40:28.780 I mean, even your trad wives didn't become trad till 32.

00:40:32.620 I'm not trying to be rude.

00:40:33.680 Like, it's just, you know, even like the trad chicks aren't trad because they didn't get married in their early 20s. 1.00

00:40:39.500 I'm not saying they're bad people.

00:40:41.260 Yeah.

00:40:41.460 It's like, you know.

00:40:42.420 But I think you're right.

00:40:44.380 I think the solution for guys is to get into the top 20% or at least to get as close to the top 20%.

00:40:50.940 And look, let's be honest.

00:40:53.840 It's not that everybody has to be Jay Waller.

00:40:55.940 I mean, you don't have to.

00:40:57.400 As long as you're somewhat better than the next guy, you're still going to have options.

00:41:02.820 Do you know what I'm saying?

00:41:03.840 I would say for women, it's the same thing. 1.00

00:41:05.860 You can be in the top 20% of women if you get in shape, learn to cook the way. 1.00

00:41:10.100 Basically, what we're trying to say is just everyone should just be striving to be the best versions of themselves.

00:41:14.560 Yeah.

00:41:15.180 Because looks do matter.

00:41:17.020 And for men, money does matter. 0.97

00:41:18.880 But do you think that there's more self-improvement advice aimed at men than there is at women?

00:41:24.340 There's no real self-improvement for women. 1.00

00:41:27.000 It's all fake.

00:41:27.960 It's all, it's all, this is what women love hoflation so much. 1.00

00:41:32.320 And if you listen to all the dating coaches for women, it's all, just know your worth. 0.99

00:41:37.720 Yeah. 1.00

00:41:37.940 Well, what if you're a fat whore? 1.00

00:41:43.340 Like, no, that's not real advice. 0.99

00:41:46.680 And even when I noticed when women's like fashion coaches don't dress in a way that men, and I'm not claiming to be like a fashion person.

00:41:54.660 Well, I'm an expert stylist, Karen.

00:41:57.320 Yeah, good job.

00:41:58.740 I hear you.

00:42:00.580 No, but I've even noticed that when women dress each other, like, you might have this on, so no offense. 1.00

00:42:07.800 But women, like men do not like shoulder pads. 0.99

00:42:10.320 And even like this stuff, I guess they don't really like that.

00:42:12.860 Like it makes you more like boxy.

00:42:14.660 And like when I pull men on what they like, it seems to be more like sundress type vibes.

00:42:20.360 And I've just noticed even when women stylists don't dress women often in like a more feminine way.

00:42:26.380 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:26.880 For like the male, gay. 1.00

00:42:28.600 I just found out the other day that the number one thing that can increase women's options is big boobs. 1.00

00:42:35.040 Is that true?

00:42:36.060 I don't know if it's true or not, but that's like, it was on this Twitter account that got, so don't quote me.

00:42:43.660 But I think it was like a pull on the things that like men value.

00:42:49.060 I mean, outside of being thin, it was like boobs was like the next one.

00:42:53.540 I think that's somewhat dependent on the guy.

00:42:56.520 I mean, I think some guys, you know, value it more than others.

00:42:59.100 But again, on that Chris Williamson thing, again, with Piers Morgan, one of the things he was saying was that one of the problems you've got in modern society is that if you look at like movies and stuff like that, women are always seen as being immediately perfect.

00:43:11.100 Like they don't have to do anything.

00:43:12.640 And he quoted some film examples, which I forget, but he was basically saying, look, she's already perfect.

00:43:17.360 And the only reason she's facing any adversity is because of the patriarchy or the outside society.

00:43:21.860 And he said, that's not a very empowering message for women because the message isn't we'll go to the gym or work on this or do that for the most part. 0.85

00:43:29.320 Now, the message for guys, as we know, is that, you know, the message is, no, get in shape, lift, fucking get your money up, get your style up, you know, all that kind of stuff.

00:43:37.600 And in a way, I think for men, that's a good thing because it has encouraged, well, not all of us, but it's encouraged a lot of us to do those things. 0.55

00:43:44.380 And I just think as a human being, it's good to do those things.

00:43:46.580 Yeah. So if you were going to make a self-improvement course for women, what would, so obviously one is fitness. 0.96

00:43:52.920 What's two and three?

00:43:58.120 Being nice.

00:44:01.500 Etiquette.

00:44:01.900 Well, I mean, it's got to be fitness.

00:44:06.280 It's got to, there's got to be some sort of beauty component, hasn't there?

00:44:08.800 There's got to be dressing for your body shirt.

00:44:10.500 I mean, I mean, Brittany Bendy sees this, you know, but, but, you know, a lot of, unfortunately, a lot of it for women is, is, is physical.

00:44:18.800 But, but what about some of the more mental things?

00:44:20.740 Well, I think, I think, I mean, you, you, you've said yourself like women, you know, why don't women learn some kind of a useful trade that isn't only fans?

00:44:29.840 You know, why don't they learn how to, I don't know, code or learn how to like, like, so that they've got some sort of a skill set that isn't just based within their looks, you know, because even if she gets married and she has a kid, maybe this is, there's, there's something she can do, you know, some kind of business on the side. 0.92

00:44:45.200 I mean, that doesn't seem to get encouraged very much, you know, and then I suppose you've got the spiritual practices, but they do, they do get pushed a bit, don't they?

00:44:54.800 But you're, I mean, it's, you know, the mindfulness and all that shit, you're probably not on board with that, you know, but.

00:44:58.820 Well, I'm, I would be on, on board with it if there was like real ones, which is most of them are just, I just haven't found many that really have substance. 0.88

00:45:08.600 I think a lot of women, not a lot of women, some women that I've dated actually, they actually don't do very much, you know, and with the greatest respect, you know, they get up, they look at a bit of social media, they watch some Netflix. 0.99

00:45:22.100 Sometimes they exercise, sometimes they don't, they're not very disciplined with that, they're, they're sort of, that it would be, in my humble opinion, I think it'd be better if they had just more shit going on. 0.99

00:45:33.920 Do you know what I mean? 0.83

00:45:34.420 So it's like, okay, because like the fundamentals of my life, like I, I always like to exercise, I like to train every day, I like to do some, some meaningful work, I like to read, or at least listen to audio books.

00:45:43.720 I like to, you know, what else? I don't know, like, obviously take care of fashion, shit like that. Like, I think there are certain pillars that I think men have, and money as well, getting your money up.

00:45:54.900 Now for women, that's, in theory, less necessary, because you're, you're waiting for the guy who's going to come and pick up the tap. 1.00

00:46:01.640 But even so, I just think for having a meaningful life, if you could get some of those pillars in place and work towards those, because you must be happy, because I mean, you, you know, you've got a, you've got a job, you're doing, you're doing cool stuff in media.

00:46:13.580 I mean, surely that must bring you some satisfaction above.

00:46:16.680 Absolutely. But I think, I think what I always say to women is that you should, because I get a lot of messages on Instagram, TikTok saying, how do I act busy? How do I make him see that I'm busy? And I'm like, no, no, no, you're not meant to be acting like you're busy. Actually get busy.

00:46:34.260 Yeah.

00:46:34.940 Start doing things in your life. You know, cultivate yourself, inspire yourself, go and learn a hobby, you know, learn a skill. I don't know. Do something with yourself and make something of yourself so that you actually are busy.

00:46:48.240 Yeah.

00:46:48.520 And then you're not sitting there checking your phone to see if he's texted you or, because when you're busy, you're not checking your phone. I promise you, you're not checking your phone all the time.

00:46:56.060 You know, or take up some kind of creative pursuit, if you're like writing or painting or something.

00:47:01.060 Yeah, like a passion project or something.

00:47:02.440 Yeah, it just seems like, I'm not saying every woman, but I've certainly, you know, dealt with some women and it seems like behind the nice Instagram facade, there's just not a lot going on.

00:47:13.440 Yeah.

00:47:13.800 You know what I mean?

00:47:14.460 Yeah, because the thing is with those type of women is that it's all about the image. It's how do I appear on social media. 1.00

00:47:23.900 If I had to redo my 20s, I would become a personal trainer at like 21. I feel like if you're in your early, no, no, because hear me out. If you're 18 or like, what's college really going to do? I think that college, you kind of learn nothing.

00:47:38.680 So it's like, what is the one skill that'll benefit women for a lifetime, whether it's dating, you could go into even if you let's say you want to be a businesswoman, your looks. So you should max that out. Like, you should, like 17, 18, or, you know, when you're in your early 20s, I would get a job at fitness.

00:47:59.040 Yeah, to start anyways, and you can get a job and whatever later.

00:48:02.800 It reminds me of those, you know, those Abercrombie Fitch models in the stores. They had to be very, very good looking and just aesthetically pleasing to get that job.

00:48:14.040 I think even with fitness, though, I mean, there are a lot of women and they do work out and they are very disciplined and that's great. But I also think there are some women who kind of don't because they can sort of, well, no, because they can kind of coast because they're great.

00:48:27.700 You know, it's like, okay, it's fine now, but you want to set that foundation, really. And also, it's better for your mental health as well. You know?

00:48:36.520 Yeah.

00:48:37.020 Yeah, I just think, I don't know. I feel like beauty is subjective because what could be beautiful to you may not be beautiful to Myron, for example. I don't know.

00:48:46.540 It's someone in the room.

00:48:47.660 It's not that subjective.

00:48:48.700 I feel like it is.

00:48:50.380 Even if it's different men or even if it's different races and stuff, men still rate the same, like they did an experiment where they had men submit celebrities that they found attractive and it was the same sort of face shape.

00:49:07.200 Even if it was like a different race, it was still like the same eye width apart. It was still the same like lip. 0.98

00:49:12.500 Yeah, but I think when we're speaking about this, I think what we're trying to say is like different guys have different specs.

00:49:17.200 Okay?

00:49:17.440 Let's just be real because the world is not black and white.

00:49:19.740 So I think what I would say to women is just try to be the best version of yourself.

00:49:24.960 If you're not happy about your weight, let's do something about it.

00:49:28.740 If you're not happy with the way your hair looks or something, let's do something about it.

00:49:33.080 Do you know what I mean?

00:49:33.460 Like try to fix these things about yourself so that you can be the best version of yourself because, and then, you know, you do stand a chance of meeting someone.

00:49:41.500 Because you do need to level up.

00:49:44.220 You do need to level up.

00:49:46.380 I think it's sort of like you want to meet a woman who's got somewhat of an interesting life where she's got something going on.

00:49:52.220 I mean, I know it's sort of like on the one hand, it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter.

00:49:54.920 If she's cute, who cares?

00:49:56.260 But I think the truth is somewhere in between. 0.99

00:49:58.580 I think you do want somebody who's got some shit going on. 0.99

00:50:00.900 I think you do. 1.00

00:50:01.660 She's got to raise the kids, right? 1.00

00:50:03.180 Well.

00:50:03.500 She's got to know how to do things. 0.91

00:50:04.960 Well, yeah.

00:50:07.780 Okay.

00:50:08.140 Let me check.

00:50:09.420 Guys, if you want to send...

00:50:11.140 Oh, we got a $50 edition.

00:50:13.880 Woo! 0.99

00:50:15.200 Thank you, Troy.

00:50:16.300 Thank you.

00:50:17.160 Ryan Harris.

00:50:18.360 Thank you, podcast and channel, Pearl.

00:50:21.300 Thank you very much, guys.

00:50:23.680 Do you know who Peter Nolan is?

00:50:26.560 Rings a bell.

00:50:27.800 I don't know.

00:50:28.280 He's been in my chat recently saying that I'm afraid to meet him.

00:50:31.800 And I'm like, I don't know who you are.

00:50:34.260 I just keep...

00:50:35.040 Never heard of him.

00:50:35.360 Or he's like, he's afraid.

00:50:36.660 She's afraid to talk to me.

00:50:38.120 Is he like related to Christopher Nolan?

00:50:41.320 I don't know.

00:50:42.540 I don't know.

00:50:43.520 I don't know who it is.

00:50:44.880 He's saying alimony is voluntary.

00:50:50.520 Okay.

00:50:51.620 I was just curious if you knew who he was.

00:50:53.580 It rings a bell, but I'm not sure.

00:50:55.580 I don't know.

00:50:56.160 I don't know him.

00:50:57.120 He might be on Twitter or something.

00:50:58.580 Okay.

00:50:59.140 Well, tell the people where they can find you guys.

00:51:02.280 Thank you for coming on today.

00:51:03.840 Thank you.

00:51:04.200 Fun little chat.

00:51:05.420 Yeah, fun little chat.

00:51:06.620 Thank you for having us, Pearl.

00:51:07.580 Yeah.

00:51:07.800 Thank you for having us.

00:51:08.660 Great conversation as always.

00:51:10.400 As always.

00:51:11.300 Yes.

00:51:11.800 You can find me on all socials.

00:51:14.640 Cikena TV, Instagram, TikTok, Cikena Louisa.

00:51:18.600 Yeah.

00:51:18.800 And you can find me on The Dating Game with Troy Francis YouTube channel and also on X at RealTroyFrancis and on Instagram at RealTroyFrancis as well.

00:51:31.740 He said it's very easy to find my email.

00:51:34.220 I'm like, do you know how many emails I get?

00:51:37.020 Who is this person?

00:51:38.500 I don't know.

00:51:39.120 I'm like, what?

00:51:39.840 Okay, whatever.

00:51:41.280 Okay, guys.

00:51:42.940 Thank you.

00:51:43.700 Thank you guys for coming.

00:51:44.920 A couple announcements, guys.

00:51:47.140 I know I did tweet the wrong time in Eastern.

00:51:52.040 I know I put 5 Eastern.

00:51:54.060 I think it's, I got the time change wrong.

00:51:56.080 But we're going to start streaming 8 p.m. GMT.

00:51:59.240 So that's going to be 3 Eastern, I think.

00:52:03.920 Right?

00:52:04.600 Yes.

00:52:07.520 I said 5.

00:52:09.580 I'm like, I should know this by now.

00:52:11.500 I'm going to be gone next week from the end of next.

00:52:16.560 I think I'm going to be gone Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Monday, maybe Tuesday next week.

00:52:21.200 There may, I don't want to say too soon, there may be a collaboration with The Daily Wire coming up.

00:52:26.140 Soon.

00:52:27.180 So if that happens, it might be a little longer.

00:52:29.360 But the rest of this week, 8 p.m. GMT.

00:52:32.940 Monday, 8 p.m. GMT.

00:52:35.160 And then when I get back from there.

00:52:36.780 We're going to try to do a call-in show when I'm gone.

00:52:39.240 So you guys can call in with my travel set, but we'll see.

00:52:42.960 Please send super chats and like the video on your way out.

00:52:46.880 Subscribe to the channel.

00:52:48.280 And let me know what you want me to cover next on Pearl Daily.

00:52:51.300 We'll talk to you next time.

00:52:56.060 Whoo! 0.78

00:52:58.360 That's a wrap.

00:52:59.620 Nice! 0.94

00:53:00.140 Thank you.

JustPearlyThings - February 28, 2024

Recap of HEATED @FreshFitMiami Podcast With @thedatinggamewithtroyfrancis And @sukainabenzakour8899

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