JustPearlyThings - July 19, 2023


She Tried Defending Body Positivity And Got Silenced


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10 minutes

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220.65482

Word Count

2,242

Sentence Count

221

Misogynist Sentences

29

Hate Speech Sentences

20


Summary

In this episode we talk about obesity and why we need to see more plus-sized women on the cover of magazines. We also talk about the dangers of obesity and how it can affect your mental health. We hope you enjoy this episode and if you like what you hear, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Is there anything wrong with a little plus-sized girl?
00:00:02.600 Yeah, because what about the people that actually can't lose weight?
00:00:08.120 That's not a thing.
00:00:08.940 But what about people that actually, but they mentally can't,
00:00:11.840 so for the rest of their life they're going to be that same size?
00:00:13.860 That's not a thing.
00:00:14.060 They need some empowerment because otherwise they could, you know,
00:00:17.100 commit suicide or something.
00:00:18.160 Do you go to a basketball game and look to see, like an NBA game?
00:00:23.660 What do you guys have?
00:00:24.360 It's football, right?
00:00:25.180 Football here.
00:00:25.800 You go to a football game here and you try to see average football players?
00:00:30.020 Average.
00:00:30.380 Like below average football players play football here when you go to a
00:00:33.940 professional game.
00:00:34.880 Do we see them?
00:00:35.500 No, do you go there to see that?
00:00:37.160 Oh, well, no.
00:00:38.600 So then why on the cover of magazines,
00:00:40.340 which is supposed to be the epitome of beauty,
00:00:42.060 do we have below average women on it?
00:00:43.860 Right.
00:00:45.140 Like why?
00:00:45.820 Like why is that?
00:00:46.740 Why do we need that?
00:00:48.320 I feel ashamed that I don't like it.
00:00:50.120 I don't want to see it.
00:00:50.920 I think you're right about the fact that they're doing it to,
00:00:54.120 because, you know,
00:00:54.640 if you want to talk about the health system and the way the world's set up,
00:00:56.960 they don't want people to come out of obesity.
00:00:59.920 Right.
00:01:00.160 So they're going to make it look like it's okay.
00:01:02.220 They don't want you to.
00:01:03.220 So why wouldn't we have healthy people on the front of magazines?
00:01:05.980 I'm not saying like.
00:01:06.540 Because they don't want that.
00:01:07.420 Yeah.
00:01:07.840 Yeah.
00:01:08.040 But you said we need that earlier.
00:01:09.780 No,
00:01:10.060 but I was saying that for the people that don't actually fit,
00:01:13.300 I think in my head,
00:01:14.200 I'm thinking for the people that actually,
00:01:15.660 because a person that actually cannot overcome obesity and for the rest of
00:01:20.200 their life to the age of 60,
00:01:21.300 70,
00:01:21.640 they're still going to be overweight.
00:01:23.620 Those people are probably feeling,
00:01:25.060 yes,
00:01:25.340 like they're,
00:01:25.640 they're feeling okay.
00:01:26.580 They're empowered.
00:01:27.680 That's not a thing.
00:01:28.880 Would you rather be empowered than commit suicide?
00:01:30.980 Because people think,
00:01:31.880 look at you,
00:01:32.620 you're fat.
00:01:33.420 But when you're eat,
00:01:34.340 when you're overeating,
00:01:35.320 you're slowly committing suicide.
00:01:36.540 Exactly.
00:01:37.120 My mother did it.
00:01:38.180 Wow.
00:01:38.900 She died.
00:01:40.000 Wow.
00:01:40.500 I was five months old.
00:01:41.360 Her cause of death was severe obesity.
00:01:42.700 And then when my daughter started getting the weight,
00:01:44.900 I was freaking out.
00:01:46.140 Right.
00:01:46.760 And so that's why we're on a mission.
00:01:48.680 Yeah.
00:01:48.860 But don't you think there's a certain level though?
00:01:50.500 Obviously there's obesity and there's,
00:01:52.560 because I feel like the modeling world has always promoted unhealthy,
00:01:57.260 unhealthiness.
00:01:57.880 If that makes sense.
00:01:58.420 Even the slim women,
00:01:59.560 slim women would like six and like very small.
00:02:02.620 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:02:03.200 That would,
00:02:03.600 it looked like they weren't eating at certain times.
00:02:04.940 I don't think so.
00:02:04.960 If you look at,
00:02:05.440 I always hear that,
00:02:06.580 but I like,
00:02:07.140 I look at Marilyn Monroe.
00:02:08.440 She was healthy.
00:02:09.040 Yeah,
00:02:09.160 but they don't talk about one person though.
00:02:10.360 There's a lot of,
00:02:11.080 a lot of women in the modeling world.
00:02:12.700 It was very slim and they wouldn't eat or they wouldn't do something just to
00:02:15.900 fit in a certain category.
00:02:17.100 Do you get what I'm saying?
00:02:17.720 I mean,
00:02:18.000 there was some,
00:02:18.780 but I just,
00:02:19.460 maybe for like early two thousands.
00:02:21.500 But I think if you look at the last like a hundred years,
00:02:23.720 I think most women on the covers were just objectively beautiful.
00:02:27.800 What's the average weight you would say?
00:02:30.240 Let's see.
00:02:31.200 I don't know off the top of my head.
00:02:32.620 I mean,
00:02:32.740 as a Ford model,
00:02:33.980 the girls who were in straight size modeling,
00:02:36.140 they were size four.
00:02:37.100 And that's because the samples are made in a size four.
00:02:40.640 And so it's pretty skinny.
00:02:41.200 I don't know off four different from UK four.
00:02:42.780 Oh yeah.
00:02:43.240 It is a bit.
00:02:44.360 Yeah.
00:02:44.440 Like more like a two.
00:02:45.820 I think it'd be more like a two.
00:02:47.080 Two hair.
00:02:47.960 The average,
00:02:48.640 the average woman.
00:02:49.720 She's gone.
00:02:50.640 She's frissy.
00:02:51.120 Okay.
00:02:51.520 The average woman is five,
00:02:53.060 four.
00:02:53.620 I'm in America and I can do UK in a second.
00:02:55.800 Five,
00:02:56.300 four,
00:02:56.800 20 years old and weighs 170 pounds.
00:02:59.800 What's that in stone please?
00:03:01.980 Okay.
00:03:02.600 Okay.
00:03:02.900 Average stones.
00:03:08.220 I don't actually know.
00:03:13.460 But that's overweight.
00:03:15.620 I would say that that average that she just quoted would be over.
00:03:18.060 12 stone.
00:03:18.760 12,
00:03:18.960 12.14.
00:03:20.260 Okay.
00:03:20.860 Cause I would think that average is between eight to 12.
00:03:23.600 I think if you're in a good in shape,
00:03:25.480 12,
00:03:26.260 there's good in shape,
00:03:27.220 12 women.
00:03:28.780 Anything above that.
00:03:29.680 Then we're talking obesity.
00:03:31.220 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:03:32.500 I mean,
00:03:32.900 I think it's,
00:03:33.480 it's BMI.
00:03:34.920 To be honest,
00:03:35.520 sorry.
00:03:35.960 To be honest,
00:03:36.700 it depends.
00:03:37.320 I think like around 10 years ago,
00:03:40.120 it used to be way different.
00:03:43.480 I think now they kind of raised it,
00:03:45.700 you know?
00:03:46.080 Yeah.
00:03:46.520 Yeah.
00:03:46.780 I think I,
00:03:47.480 10 years ago I went,
00:03:49.220 I don't know why it was like 65 kilos.
00:03:51.120 I don't know what that is.
00:03:52.000 Sorry.
00:03:52.420 And in stones,
00:03:54.540 it must be like one 65 in,
00:03:56.520 um,
00:03:57.120 in America.
00:03:58.340 2.2 to one.
00:03:59.200 Yeah.
00:03:59.940 And they would already say,
00:04:01.360 oh,
00:04:01.440 you should try to lose weight,
00:04:03.180 you know,
00:04:03.440 for your height,
00:04:04.200 whatever.
00:04:04.900 Now,
00:04:05.420 if you look at that,
00:04:06.480 they're like,
00:04:06.880 yeah,
00:04:07.080 you're perfect.
00:04:07.700 You can be a model.
00:04:08.840 So it really changed in the last decade.
00:04:11.940 I would say really it did.
00:04:13.360 So it was about around 10 years ago,
00:04:15.240 was there plus size models?
00:04:16.760 Is that a new thing?
00:04:17.780 I'll be honest.
00:04:18.500 Not really.
00:04:19.420 There definitely were on America's Next Top Model.
00:04:21.880 I mean,
00:04:22.140 it wasn't that as common though,
00:04:23.500 but I definitely,
00:04:24.380 I,
00:04:24.480 I,
00:04:24.660 I used to watch Tyra Banks.
00:04:26.720 Anyone?
00:04:27.100 Yeah.
00:04:27.640 Anyone?
00:04:27.980 They weren't like this.
00:04:31.300 They weren't like the,
00:04:31.900 the,
00:04:32.340 the like super.
00:04:33.660 Yeah.
00:04:33.940 Yeah.
00:04:34.160 Like you see today,
00:04:34.900 they were just kind of like,
00:04:36.020 they're like tens.
00:04:37.040 Big boned.
00:04:38.100 Uh,
00:04:38.540 10 is not big.
00:04:41.540 No,
00:04:41.820 10 is not big at all.
00:04:42.480 12 is not big.
00:04:45.040 But this one I'm saying for the modeling world,
00:04:46.400 that's quite big.
00:04:47.020 Yeah.
00:04:47.480 But again,
00:04:47.940 it's like when you go to an NBA game,
00:04:49.500 I want to see good basketball players.
00:04:51.460 Like it's supposed to be the epitome of beauty.
00:04:53.960 Yeah.
00:04:54.040 But now we're rewarding average.
00:04:56.080 Like,
00:04:56.260 I don't want to see average chicks,
00:04:57.640 like faces on the cover of magazines.
00:04:59.500 I don't want to see average bodies.
00:05:01.380 I hear that.
00:05:01.980 But if she,
00:05:02.500 if she's a good,
00:05:03.440 I'm not saying plus plus,
00:05:04.540 but she's a good size 12 with good curves in that.
00:05:07.340 Men don't want to see that.
00:05:08.560 We don't really want to just see slim girls all the time.
00:05:10.560 I'll be honest.
00:05:10.900 I believe that.
00:05:11.520 I believe that some men like that.
00:05:13.240 I really do.
00:05:13.920 It's typically,
00:05:14.560 to be honest,
00:05:15.640 it's typically broke men.
00:05:17.000 Cause if you look at rich men,
00:05:18.200 yeah,
00:05:18.580 yeah.
00:05:19.120 If you look at like,
00:05:19.920 it's so cap,
00:05:20.760 like I'm just,
00:05:21.540 I don't like liars.
00:05:22.640 No offense.
00:05:23.260 But it's like,
00:05:24.280 like when you see rich men,
00:05:25.600 what do they have on their arms?
00:05:27.340 Slim women.
00:05:28.580 But the only reason why they have slim women is because the slim women are in the
00:05:32.300 higher echelons of places where the other women,
00:05:35.720 no,
00:05:35.900 not in beauty.
00:05:36.480 No,
00:05:36.620 let's not talk about beauty only.
00:05:37.880 I'm talking about venues,
00:05:39.520 certain venues,
00:05:40.260 certain places that they get to go to.
00:05:42.020 Certain women can't get to go there.
00:05:44.160 Okay.
00:05:44.480 You get what I'm saying?
00:05:45.380 Leonardo DiCaprio.
00:05:46.600 If he wanted a big chick,
00:05:48.160 he couldn't find one.
00:05:49.180 No,
00:05:49.280 he can find one.
00:05:50.120 But I'm saying in certain,
00:05:51.380 the plate,
00:05:51.840 the venue,
00:05:52.360 the events,
00:05:53.000 the events he goes to.
00:05:54.560 No,
00:05:55.000 half these guys get their chicks from Instagram.
00:05:56.240 Come on.
00:05:57.980 They can get any chick they want.
00:05:59.960 Yeah,
00:06:00.320 they can.
00:06:01.040 But do you think Leonardo just got in in bear girls DMs,
00:06:04.020 just hollering girls in the DMs?
00:06:05.500 No more.
00:06:05.800 I think if he wants it,
00:06:07.120 I think he'll pick,
00:06:08.800 like he hollered at that one chick,
00:06:11.180 the Hadid.
00:06:12.260 Who's that?
00:06:12.760 Oh,
00:06:12.960 yeah.
00:06:14.100 Gigi Hadid?
00:06:14.980 Gigi Hadid.
00:06:15.180 Oh,
00:06:15.640 Gigi.
00:06:16.380 The model,
00:06:16.760 yeah.
00:06:17.060 Gigi.
00:06:17.500 I don't know what I'm saying.
00:06:18.860 It's like,
00:06:19.200 if you look at the richest,
00:06:20.200 most successful men,
00:06:21.280 they typically have slim women.
00:06:22.800 I'm saying,
00:06:23.160 if you're looking at the richest parts of events and venues,
00:06:26.740 Mayfair,
00:06:27.480 whatever,
00:06:27.940 in America,
00:06:28.980 Manhattan,
00:06:29.400 whatever,
00:06:29.980 if you go to the upper echelons of places,
00:06:32.620 they've got to be,
00:06:33.100 you know what I'm saying?
00:06:33.820 Do you really think that the only reason they're with slim,
00:06:37.460 beautiful women is because of the events they go to?
00:06:39.840 No,
00:06:40.240 but I'm saying because of the environment,
00:06:42.020 I think that was because that is society's ideal of a beautiful woman.
00:06:47.380 That's why.
00:06:48.180 And so I feel like the plus model came in when people started complaining that there wasn't a selection of variety of different sizes.
00:06:53.820 But then why is it that all around the world,
00:06:56.180 they like young,
00:06:57.720 beautiful,
00:06:58.780 slim women everywhere,
00:07:00.040 even in different societies with completely different cultures,
00:07:03.280 please,
00:07:03.640 please do not bring up this one fringent tribe in Africa.
00:07:08.320 Everyone brings up,
00:07:09.200 but it's like there,
00:07:09.780 it's such a small percentage of the world.
00:07:12.500 Well,
00:07:12.760 Africa.
00:07:13.540 There's something,
00:07:14.220 no,
00:07:14.400 Africa is the biggest country in the world.
00:07:15.780 They bring up some tribe in Africa,
00:07:17.820 it's this,
00:07:18.280 that likes the fat women,
00:07:19.640 but it's a very,
00:07:20.300 very,
00:07:20.660 I've done this conversation.
00:07:21.680 But if you think,
00:07:22.420 I hear that,
00:07:23.040 but if you think about it,
00:07:23.820 it's the motherland.
00:07:26.280 Please don't go do disingenuous.
00:07:27.880 Please don't.
00:07:28.260 I'm not being,
00:07:28.800 but I'm,
00:07:29.700 me coming.
00:07:30.760 You know,
00:07:31.360 deep down,
00:07:32.060 you know that men like slim women in general.
00:07:34.500 I'm going to be honest.
00:07:35.380 I don't think they do.
00:07:36.200 I'm going to be honest.
00:07:37.220 I don't,
00:07:37.940 and I'm going to say this coming from being a black man.
00:07:42.040 Okay.
00:07:42.640 If I'm talking about being a black man and from a black perspective of,
00:07:46.620 I feel like majority of us men like thicker women.
00:07:49.780 Okay.
00:07:50.160 Well,
00:07:50.320 and even,
00:07:51.780 no,
00:07:51.920 no,
00:07:52.000 no,
00:07:52.180 but you keep talking about celebrity men that are going to be around higher women that,
00:07:57.740 that certain women.
00:07:58.980 I'm from a 1% family.
00:08:00.740 My dad,
00:08:01.020 my dad,
00:08:01.480 my dad is a top 1% earner.
00:08:03.140 I grew up around in a wealthy neighborhood.
00:08:04.780 I'm telling you,
00:08:05.360 they do not put fat chicks on their arm.
00:08:07.220 I hear that.
00:08:07.680 In high class,
00:08:08.440 in high class society and celebrities want people with the option to not have a fat chick on their arm.
00:08:13.800 Do not.
00:08:14.540 All right.
00:08:14.840 But what,
00:08:15.320 even like I was having a conversation the other day with,
00:08:17.600 with a woman and she was a slim woman.
00:08:19.740 She's from America as well.
00:08:21.000 So American,
00:08:21.960 I think like Atlanta or whatever.
00:08:24.360 And she said when she was slim,
00:08:25.820 she was only getting approached by white men.
00:08:27.860 Okay.
00:08:28.340 She put,
00:08:28.600 she put on a lot of weight.
00:08:29.840 No,
00:08:29.980 not a lot of weight,
00:08:30.600 but she just takes,
00:08:31.400 got body,
00:08:31.920 whatever,
00:08:32.280 blah,
00:08:32.460 blah,
00:08:32.580 blah.
00:08:32.800 Now she's getting approached by a lot of black men,
00:08:35.180 which is what,
00:08:36.600 do you get what I'm saying?
00:08:37.100 But I'm saying,
00:08:38.080 if you,
00:08:38.380 if you look at it on,
00:08:39.300 on the Democrats thing,
00:08:40.640 which,
00:08:40.840 which was successful black men that we know are dating.
00:08:44.160 Are we only going to talk about successful men?
00:08:45.800 Yeah,
00:08:45.960 because those are the men with options.
00:08:47.340 Broke men don't have as many options as rich men.
00:08:49.280 They do not have as many options as rich men.
00:08:52.020 So if you look at the men with the most options to look,
00:08:54.220 okay,
00:08:54.440 so if we want to see what women want,
00:08:55.740 we got to look at the women with the most options.
00:08:57.520 Who do the most beautiful,
00:08:58.740 the youngest,
00:08:59.600 most fertile women pick?
00:09:01.220 If we want to look at men,
00:09:02.260 what do men like?
00:09:03.000 We have to look at the men with the most options.
00:09:04.580 Because it's not really fair to say,
00:09:05.740 oh,
00:09:06.180 I like fat chicks if I make,
00:09:07.640 you know,
00:09:08.240 $10 an hour at Taco Bell,
00:09:10.060 right?
00:09:10.300 Like you can't,
00:09:11.280 you don't get it.
00:09:12.120 No,
00:09:12.180 I hear that.
00:09:12.500 I hear that.
00:09:14.120 No,
00:09:14.660 I get that.
00:09:15.340 But obviously,
00:09:16.020 if you're going,
00:09:16.580 if you're talking about celebrities,
00:09:18.100 celebrities are guided to be.
00:09:19.880 but I didn't just say celebrities.
00:09:20.980 I also said I'm,
00:09:22.020 I'm from,
00:09:22.680 I'm,
00:09:22.940 my dad is in like,
00:09:24.420 he's a top 1% earner.
00:09:25.980 I grew up with 10 siblings in a 10 bedroom mansion in a community where many people made that amount of money.
00:09:31.720 Yeah.
00:09:31.900 So,
00:09:32.340 so I've been around a successful wealthy man and they don't put fat chicks.
00:09:36.440 Sometimes they,
00:09:37.140 they do get fat later,
00:09:38.640 but they don't appreciate that.
00:09:40.040 You know what I mean?
00:09:40.740 So,
00:09:41.060 yeah,
00:09:41.220 but I hear what you're saying,
00:09:42.540 but I'm saying the reason these men obviously going to go for similar because they're around.
00:09:47.360 That's what you being in the top 1% and being in,
00:09:49.840 in this neighborhood.
00:09:50.740 Okay.
00:09:51.380 It allows you to see different things.
00:09:53.040 You get me?
00:09:53.480 Like,
00:09:53.760 if you do,
00:09:54.740 no,
00:09:54.880 but if you do have money,
00:09:55.680 obviously if you do have money,
00:09:56.620 a lot of people with money are in the gym.
00:09:59.480 They do it because they have more time on their hands to do other things.
00:10:02.220 You get what I'm saying?
00:10:02.760 No,
00:10:02.880 they have less time.
00:10:03.940 I guarantee.
00:10:04.980 You think they have less time?
00:10:06.100 Rich people absolutely have less time.
00:10:08.040 Totally.
00:10:08.580 No,
00:10:08.780 I don't know about that.
00:10:09.580 Yeah.