JustPearlyThings - April 26, 2023


She Tried Using Racism To Justify Feminism


Episode Stats

Length

14 minutes

Words per Minute

237.03569

Word Count

3,480

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

35

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

In this episode, I'm joined by my good friend and colleague, to discuss feminism, racism, identity and identity politics. We discuss the difference between being a feminist and being a black woman in the modern world, the importance of identity politics, and why it's important to understand that feminism is not the same as racism.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 true that's why i think feminism in my opinion is the problem when people want to label things
00:00:06.960 you don't want all of the same things we're all very different women we have different experience
00:00:11.120 different careers different ones so if you start saying feminism you start labeling everybody it's
00:00:15.440 a problem because a black woman's freaking experience is not the same as a white woman
00:00:19.440 so we our feminism doesn't look the same so when everybody's saying oh women empower yourselves
00:00:23.760 we can't empower ourselves the same way some women work some don't so we have a mother some
00:00:27.360 women are not mothers he's like don't put me under the same what is a black woman what does that have
00:00:31.120 to do with feminism it has to do with feminism because for example for me just knowing the
00:00:35.840 difference between my empowerment and the empowerment of my white girlfriends it's very different i have
00:00:41.520 bigger struggles to overcome so when somebody's telling me oh feminism empower yourself we're all
00:00:45.200 the same no we're not we're quite different the same way that i don't believe that racism is actually
00:00:50.320 something that many people should be speaking on because even that black experience is totally
00:00:54.800 different depending on where you're from what class you come from so women are not all the same
00:00:58.800 just because we are women this is like everything you're saying is why people think that feminists
00:01:02.960 are just chatting because like what does racism i'm not a feminist so i don't really care and i brought
00:01:06.880 feminism as a as a comparison point because i'm just trying to explain that when you put people in
00:01:11.520 the same bag every single time it causes problems so you don't actually get to understand what the
00:01:15.760 genuine problem is and you start saying oh we want this but then you don't know what it's victim mindset
00:01:20.640 yeah it's it's having a victim mindset i'm black i'm a woman i need empowerment i need this
00:01:25.040 to move forward no it's not a victimization it's a fact because i know i lived that experience you may
00:01:29.600 not and on top of that i'm also an immigrant so i already know that my experience is different so when
00:01:33.600 i'm talking about empowerment and you're an immigrant too there's a lot of ways you're victimizing yourself
00:01:38.000 i'm not victimized i'm empowering myself because i'm a g i made it through the problem i don't really
00:01:41.920 care about whether or not it was a situation but that's wokeness you empower yourself by victimizing
00:01:46.320 yourself no i follow myself by understanding that perhaps i may have a bigger hill to climb so i'll
00:01:51.200 train harder it's what you're leading with though it's certainly what you're leading with your race
00:01:56.080 your gender and your and your immigration of course you're leading with that is that your identity
00:01:59.920 and understand that when i'm a feminist too what about what you've done in the world instead of all
00:02:04.240 of these other things in the world okay then why not leave with those i'm an educator as well okay
00:02:08.240 and i understand the difference between me going into that that job versus other people i work with
00:02:13.840 different types of racism what i'm trying to say is i'm not trying to make this about racism i'm
00:02:17.440 simply making a comparison to explain what you did no no no you certainly did and let me tell you why
00:02:21.840 because i'm making a comparison so it's an analogy to explain another problem when you put everybody in
00:02:26.800 the same basket it doesn't work that's why feminism doesn't work it's not a good thing because i don't
00:02:31.920 relate to feminists because the problems are not just caused by gender the problems are caused by these
00:02:35.840 other factors that you're talking yes but it's caused by so many different things there's different
00:02:39.280 elements to it so don't box me in so that's why i don't think feminism is good you neglect the people
00:02:43.600 that actually do need empowering and i don't think it's fair to say that she shouldn't lead with
00:02:47.680 her race and all of these things because when you look at us the first thing you do see is my race
00:02:51.680 if i am a tv presenter you're not going to it's the first thing i see when it's the first thing you say
00:02:55.360 when i see you i see a woman i don't see a black girl maybe that's just you but the majority you're
00:02:58.800 gonna already have this stigma of me because here's the problem with you doing that i say this with love
00:03:02.560 but if you have that top of mind all the time you're going to suppress yourself but that's literally
00:03:07.120 that's life like that's going to you're going to suppress yourself we can't change it and that is like
00:03:10.560 that's like me assuming that y'all are going to hate me because i'm a straight white male
00:03:14.000 why would i think that about you guys when we could just get along so i don't understand like
00:03:17.760 why are you being so challenging when i said because because i hate to hear it coming out of your mouth
00:03:21.920 because it's a poisonous thing for you to think next to feminists and i'm saying whatever your
00:03:26.080 empowerment movement is is not the same as mine so don't actually label me to be in that situation
00:03:30.960 and say oh women want oh i'm not labeling you i'm simply telling you what exactly what you said
00:03:35.280 no no no no no exactly what you said what do you think about feminine i said i'm black i'm an
00:03:39.360 immigrant all this that's literally what you just said that's exactly let me rephrase it so you can
00:03:44.880 understand it please so essentially if i stand next to a feminist yeah for example a white woman i don't
00:03:50.720 relate to you because i'm okay wait wait wait let me finish can i finish you're about to say i can't box
00:03:55.360 myself in with you because i'm black that's not what i'm saying say it then what i'm saying is i am not the
00:03:59.920 same woman as you what i want and what i see to be empowerment is not the same whether it's culturally whether it's
00:04:04.720 racially whether it's professionally academically personally whatever we are all very different
00:04:09.360 women cannot be boxed into the same box because we're not the same because you're different races
00:04:13.440 because of different experiences as women so you're making an anti-feminist you're you're making
00:04:17.440 anti-feminist argument but you want to have other you want to have other things to complain about
00:04:22.080 i've got i've got a lot of victim balance yeah i i know the things that are not right and i know the
00:04:27.520 things that are right it's not just black and white there's gray areas in the middle that's why i
00:04:31.920 mentioned for example things like race is a gray area in the middle that makes it say oh yeah
00:04:36.000 feminism may not actually be as accurate as people are saying that is why people come across feminists
00:04:40.480 and they don't know what they want because one wants this the other one wants this and the other
00:04:43.920 one wants this because they are different and that is why feminism in my opinion is destructive
00:04:49.440 and i don't think she's playing victim i think she's just acknowledging a serious issue in society
00:04:54.720 racism yes are we gonna act like racism doesn't exist yeah it doesn't no racism is not a problem that's
00:05:00.400 how they keep people broken at the bottom and arguing about nothing and thinking that they're
00:05:03.600 victims all the time like a problem it's not it's not a problem when you believe it your
00:05:07.920 existence problem then isn't it okay my point is your existence is a sum of your beliefs and your
00:05:13.600 thoughts and if you're always thinking that i'm a victim because i'm black i'm not a feminist because
00:05:17.840 of this i'm an immigrant then you know what's going to happen you're going to stay poor you're going to
00:05:21.920 stay unhappy and you're going to see racism everywhere at a certain level of wealth and at a certain level of
00:05:26.720 status people never discuss things like race people never discuss like i'm an immigrant so it was
00:05:31.840 hard you just want to get to the next point yeah that's why racism is a winner winners only see green
00:05:36.560 because the truth of the matter is like i own a business right i have a bunch of employees
00:05:40.240 if somebody turns up and does their job and they're profitable for my company i cannot afford to give a
00:05:44.320 about their race religion hair gender any of that stuff because it's too hard to find people that work
00:05:50.240 really hard so a great example of that is lebron james has been in the nba for years because he puts out
00:05:55.440 a motherfucking results okay and he's not worried and he's not worried and living oh i'm black i can't
00:06:00.480 play in the league but you could say that for any i know plenty of successful young black men and one
00:06:05.200 thing i have a super big heart for is i play college football and i cannot stand to see people put those
00:06:11.680 young men in a box and tell them from the jump that they are not going to have a good shot at life just
00:06:15.760 because they're black can i ask you that is that is putting them in a box from the beginning and lying to them
00:06:20.000 sorry do you think that lebron james had the same journey as his white teammates that's what white
00:06:25.760 teammates you want to talk about exclusion how many white people are in the nba i think of one
00:06:31.440 name a white nba player i don't know i feel left out fuck this i'm leaving no no no but i'm just
00:06:37.120 saying if okay actually that's in america in the in the uk it's different my problem is telling young
00:06:42.960 black men that they don't have a shot because they're black is literally handicapping them from the
00:06:47.520 jump and i won't stand for it okay it's very different my friend in the uk for example the
00:06:52.720 football leagues they are full of white boys and the white players are actually quite physically
00:06:56.320 endowed and they're quite talented they get they stay behind a little bit more they're not selected
00:07:00.320 first in the uk it's very different that's why i say you shouldn't box people in and talk about
00:07:04.480 generally because culturally i call bullshit though i'll tell you why i'll tell you why it's true
00:07:09.360 an owner of a of a company whether it's a sports team or a normal business cannot afford to choose
00:07:16.160 somebody or not choose somebody based off their race or gender but that's not true no no let me
00:07:20.720 tell you why because the way that you make money in the sport is you win fucking championships
00:07:25.840 some of the best players in the uk yeah they don't get the ratings for example in the world cup three
00:07:30.960 black players scored but when they woke when the england was eliminated from the world cup those three
00:07:35.920 players were the ones that were blamed and all the white players were the ones are celebrated because
00:07:39.680 that actually does happen in this country so that's why i don't know i don't know anything
00:07:44.800 about soccer but i'll say this sorry so are both of you trying to say racism doesn't exist
00:07:50.960 or you try it holds you believing that you're a victim holds you back more than any of the actual
00:07:55.920 racism that exists in society this right this is some it's really just poor people coping yeah that
00:08:02.720 like racism this is why i'm not successful this is why i'm unhappy it's because of systematic oppression
00:08:07.520 that mindset will hold you back more than any white systems with that mindset that mindset will hold
00:08:13.760 you it's gonna hold you back way more than any racism what i will say is racism does exist
00:08:19.200 absolutely it resists everywhere it exists it exists everywhere but obviously i wouldn't call myself a
00:08:24.880 victim i've experienced racism but i don't say i'm a victim i wouldn't i wouldn't let that stop me from
00:08:31.600 prospering do you have a harder time succeeding than a white girl i don't know i feel like it's all about
00:08:36.880 mindset to be honest okay if you if you sit there and think oh i can't do this because of this or i
00:08:41.760 can't do that then obviously that's a negative mindset to have you're not going to grow and you're
00:08:45.120 not going to be all about the best version of yourself but if you think okay i might be different
00:08:49.600 but that's not going to stop me from elevating and being the best version of myself i get what you
00:08:54.960 guys are trying to say in terms of my mindset i definitely believe that what you think is what will
00:08:58.960 manifest but what i'm trying to understand is are you guys trying to say that racism does not exist at all
00:09:04.640 and it's just this fantasy not as much as we're talking about it right now and not as much as the
00:09:10.080 oppression of women and as much as feminists believe that feminists like are held back and
00:09:14.160 that we need to be empowered to ask like what how do we empower women oh motherhood okay mothers have
00:09:19.360 always been respected so it's a lot of this people like to have and this is what wokeness does we like to
00:09:24.800 have reasons to justify our existence and where our place in the world like we're held back because of
00:09:31.040 white oppression i'm a feminist i'm an immigrant and this is why i'm where i'm at it makes us feel
00:09:35.920 better about our position in life but if you let go of those attachments and just understand that the
00:09:39.840 world is what you make it you will succeed and you will be better these ways so like racism it's all
00:09:45.360 garbage it's all meant to keep us like down and at the bottom the black lives matter movement for
00:09:49.520 example was all garbage all psyop all that was a scam same with the feminist movement any of these
00:09:54.560 ideologies that people grasp on to feel better same thing with all these people talking about ukraine
00:09:58.800 and russia like you're not gonna change it just go get some money and start a family and just stop
00:10:03.040 attaching yourself to stuff that you have no control over and that and that's the point and he's dead
00:10:07.200 on because like for example people get all up flustered about who wins a presidency oh trump's
00:10:13.680 president i can't dude i don't give a who wins president you could be president tomorrow i'm still
00:10:17.280 gonna win bet your ass i don't care what the condition is i don't care who's in the office dude any of
00:10:22.880 you could be president tomorrow and i'm still gonna get up and go to work the next day can i tell you
00:10:25.760 something very interesting do you know why racism actually exists because nobody said it didn't
00:10:30.560 exist it's not a way to lead your identity it's actually very annoying because what people don't
00:10:35.360 understand is that sometimes you're walking amongst black people or even sometimes a black person will
00:10:39.840 go into a shop and the security guard will look at them and follow them they don't even know they're
00:10:43.200 looking at prints because that's pattern recognition no this the only problem is pattern recognition no no
00:10:49.360 listen listen yeah the problem is that with this whole idea of racism what people talk about for me i find
00:10:55.280 racism to be an insult because people look at the skin the color of my skin and they assume
00:10:59.040 i'm lower than what i am actually but no they don't no they actually do they actually do but
00:11:05.120 but coming from the two girls that brought up race though that's the thing you bring up race
00:11:09.600 immediately the show's been going on five minutes and of course because you both bring up black i'm
00:11:13.920 never never in my mind was i like can i ask you a question um you said it like they who is they uh just
00:11:22.240 overall the general population in this country at least so would you say like everyone would you
00:11:27.040 say like everyone in this room i don't think that's true i don't think that's true in london
00:11:30.800 no i'll explain to you why london i'll explain to you why they hear my accent a lot of the time
00:11:36.320 they see my skin i just want to know who they wait wait who's people just people in general i guess
00:11:40.640 so i met you in london so i'm asking you like they is that this room is that like everyone in here just
00:11:46.160 met you today they i mean this is this is the people that don't matter to me i don't need to
00:11:50.640 know their names this is and i'm just saying this is a good sample size of people these are all random
00:11:54.480 people like okay you know and i know we know each other but of course outside of that of course i
00:11:59.360 relate to a lot of these girls could you be projecting insecurities onto other people
00:12:03.360 they're making assumptions about what people think about you because when i met you i didn't think
00:12:06.560 i didn't think oh she's lower or she's anything else you know whatever i mean i just thought yeah
00:12:09.680 cool girl i thought i thought good tv you know yeah i'll explain to you why and this is the same
00:12:17.520 thing with then that goes perhaps that links more into feminism is that i just don't like the fact
00:12:23.040 that people assume less of my capabilities based on something i don't know that they do no and this
00:12:28.960 is the thing i'll tell you who her she's the one that put it out in the universe let me tell you let
00:12:33.600 me tell you it's not this is victim mindset literally what she said it's not listen listen my biggest
00:12:38.960 comments yeah guys you guys are troublesome then my biggest comments is like look at this stupid
00:12:43.200 girl what does she know i told mr king riches that i could fix a bentley and he laughed well how could
00:12:48.400 you be why because i'm a girl that's the thing so feminism what i think feminism is king riches then
00:12:54.720 why not say why not say but why not respond to king rich and say because i have the skill set yes and
00:13:00.720 that's the whole point doesn't that's why feminism as well what the girls are trying to say what is the
00:13:05.440 point listen listen what i believe girls are trying to say is that listen don't look at the
00:13:08.880 fact that i'm a girl i've got the skill set so respect me for my skill set then lead with it
00:13:13.200 that's it and lead with that i have the skills of course and the only reason why i measure my race
00:13:18.560 is to separate myself from the most women don't have the skill set to fix a car can we just call
00:13:23.600 a spade a spade it's not it's not feminism holding us back it's us choosing not to get that skill
00:13:29.760 so people assume that but i don't know how you cling that to me saying that feminism is holding
00:13:34.160 no you because you were you were saying that like people assume that you couldn't fix a bm or
00:13:38.720 people assume that you couldn't fix a bmw yeah and somehow that's tied to who cares no it doesn't
00:13:44.400 matter that's what feminism doesn't matter girls just want credit for what they can do
00:13:48.480 i will give you 200 pounds if you can fix a bmw we can do a video let's do it oh my god stay tuned
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