She TWISTED Everything Just To Suit Her Body Standard
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In this episode, we discuss how to break the cycle of being fat and unattractive, how to lose weight and how to stop being unattractive to men because of your weight, and what it really means to be attractive to men.
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stay on point but how are you going to do it unless you're like stuck in your ways
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and you need to break the cycle you know and a lot of people aren't breaking the cycle you're
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saying earlier on it was hard for you to do it but for whatever reason like we need to break
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this barrel so how are we going to do that just like a concert you just say beyonce if you want
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to go to a beyonce concert bad and you don't have the money you will find this money someway somehow
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priorities 100% I actually really wanted to go but as a freelancer you will find a way
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so it's the same way you find a way to lose weight
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where I think it's gone wrong is what was your name again sorry I'm Pia
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Pia where it's gone wrong is you're getting uh rewarded almost on social media you're saying
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oh comments found me attractive it's okay but in reality like I said before nine nine out of ten
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people would say it's unattractive and I think you guys could agree with that but I again as I said
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like I've never struggled I've never felt unattractive in my life I've never got into a
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club that is strict about like mayfair clubs I've always got in doesn't matter what way I am I've
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always felt attractive and been attractive in my life like I've never struggled is that is that
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saying are you are are you waiting until like are you going to continue I don't want to say continue
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getting to where you are but you're gonna stay comfortable until no I just think it's a criteria
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of what you think attractive is I'm trying to you're you're telling yourself you're attractive
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and you're you're putting the criteria as I get into mayfair clubs and exclusive parties and whatnot
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but I if the general consensus of what is attractive of what men find beautiful in women
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then I'm not saying to your face that you probably wouldn't take that but I'm just saying
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at your current weight probably not but what I would say is that like I am actively trying to
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lose weight but that has nothing to do with how attractive I am and that is not something that
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motivates me I'm not trying to lose weight because of how attractive I think other people I'm not
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saying why but I'm saying your weight absolutely does dictate how attractive you are okay yeah like
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fine but that's not a motivator for me losing weight there's not a motivation it's just whether you're
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attractive or not that's what she's saying weight has a direct impact on how attractive you are and
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and I think if all attention I mean you just talked about the attention you got from Instagram so if
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all attention was taken from you tomorrow I think it would motivate you to lose weight but but the
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problem is even overweight women still get attention because of Instagram social media and all of this
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stuff that like normalizes obesity like a hundred years ago everybody was in shape so if you were
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overweight like you would be shamed everybody would say something you were the outcast but now it's
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normal that's because people have different beauty in their eyes like some people they will look at
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someone and and weight wouldn't matter it's their real beauty so that's why you've seen the big girl
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with the fit guy or the big guy with only believe it because people only believe it when the men with all the
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maybe the men but you'll see a hot chick with a really rich ugly guy yeah because you've got money and status yeah yeah yeah yeah
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name me one Hollywood a-lister that's gone out with a morbidly obese woman can't think of one
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no I'm sorry they got a public profile to think about because no because there are a lot of secret
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chub chasers let me tell you that a lot of secret secret doesn't count women value commitment so secret
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doesn't count that's like saying oh I'm this person's side chick it doesn't count like it doesn't it doesn't
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matter so if we're talking about uh being attractive to men yep we could sit here and all jab at pia or
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person x and say yeah but you're not attractive to men because you're fat a she's already got a boyfriend
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b i would say that the goalposts always change for women because even if person x were to lose weight
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maybe they i don't know have dark hair and men prefer blondes and then she's got to bleach her hair
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and she is too short but there's nothing she can do about her height so her dating pool is always going
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to be that little bit smaller preference is bred by variation look at all of the variation between like
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the people in this room there are some people let's talk about now women and being attracted to men
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there are people like who would prefer you john over person being and that's fine right like if you
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are not attractive to person a you're going to be attractive to someone else but the criteria will
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always change the goalposts will always move especially for women because we know that there's
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a huge market around like beauty standards the goalposts move for men i mean probably just about to say
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that as well you got to have a high status to a command and attractive woman but to that point
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i mean for pia i'm glad you found love it's great for you and you've got a boyfriend but would you
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think if you were healthier maybe skinnier that you would find someone other than your boyfriend
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that's a bit more attractive a bit more higher status as a higher paying job i'm just trying to
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yeah do you think if you were more attractive due to your weight that you would find someone better
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than your current boyfriend or is that too personal to us i'm one more tv no i think that my boyfriend
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is great my boyfriend's very kind he's very generous he pays for everything takes me on holiday we
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literally just came back from holiday paid for everything by the prada bags he's no he's
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a wonderful man i'm great on you why why why you got these bikini pictures but no boyfriend on your
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instagram because he so he owns a business and he doesn't want my brand associated with him yeah
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which is like that's a red flag pair but he doesn't it's his choice like i've offered but um he
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doesn't want his brand associated with mine just in case get cancelled or something i don't know is
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that true love uh what does that mean he doesn't want his brand associated with you but you guys
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yeah because he has a company you guys are a couple yeah but he has a company his private
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stuff is all associated with me like our facebooks and things like that that just our friends can see
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but um not like publicly because but you didn't you didn't answer my question do you think if you
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were skinnier you could have got a more attractive boyfriend no i love my boyfriend and i think he's
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incredibly attractive and i think he's incredibly attractive to me so you you do think if you're skinnier
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you wouldn't i've been skinnier man they like each other they find each other attractive and i agree
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there's always going to be someone that finds bigger women attractive let's let's take it away
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from you you probably got someone in your friend circle let's take it let's take it but let's let's
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take it away from you so it's not a person yeah yeah so like let's just say the average chick do you
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think she has more options at 250 pounds i'm sorry i don't know the conversion of that or 120 pounds
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which is like a skinny chick i think it depends on her figure personally what do you think i think it
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depends on the girl for me personally i prefer my boyfriend that i have now that i'm overweight
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that i did my boyfriend i had when i was skinny sorry lewis well again we're taking this away we're
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taking this we're taking this away from you away from you so just the average chick being obese or
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being skinny but i've talked about how i had more attention when i was that way but also women need
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to pick correctly and a lot of women pick wrong it doesn't matter you can have the most attractive
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woman in the world and she will still pick a fucking dickhead like it just you know what i
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mean like it doesn't matter you have to pick correctly and a lot of that has to do with your
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self-worth and self-esteem which for me doesn't correlate to my weight well and i'm not discrediting
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what you're saying about picking correctly my only point is that the girl thinner will have more
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options every girl has so many options just being a woman if you go on tinder it doesn't matter
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like tess holiday can go on like you're you're right tinder right now and she'll have more sex
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but not commitment from the men that we want and we can see this because women are con there are more
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and more women that are going to be single and childless they're predicting half of us are going
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to be single and childless meaning that the men are not living up to what the women want
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just remember it's not personal to you just um yeah i i don't take it personally but like i don't
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know like yeah and in terms of that question that's a very big question i don't know what
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the answer is but i don't think any woman struggles for attention well yeah but attention isn't
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commitment and relationships which is what women want but like who i don't i've never met a woman
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that really genuinely struggles to get a boy to date her like it what uh i would say ugly chicks
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i've met a lot of struggle i've met a lot of men that struggle to get women to date a boy but not women a
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boy but not the boy they want i would say that's really common and even to to your point i say i
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from my experience guys that are going out or committed to larger women i'm saying like fat chicks
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they they are usually not the man in the relationship does that make sense i don't think
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they're wearing the pants nine times out of ten actually i think they are wearing the pants because
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they're black they're helping the big person do things but help them with their just help them
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no but that would make sense though because if you're if you're helping her do things then she's
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wearing the pants because in a traditional relationship she's helping him not the other
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but that's the thing it's again it's down to it's down to each individual relationship some people
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motivate themselves like you like you you mentioned a few of the big stories how people are promoting
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eating but then there are so many stories where people met each other and they lost the weight
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together there's so many hundreds and i'm saying and i'm saying i wish the body positivity movement
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would promote those yes instead of lizzo i wish they would promote weight loss instead of people that
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are content being big i think we really wanted to be positive about it that's what we would promote
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and i'm sorry that is just not the consensus on what we see in the media but pearl it's not a real
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what i'm saying is i feel like the media the media has a narrative right but it's almost like a lot
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some of the plus-size things that i see written on magazines or when i say i can't relate to it because
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i'm like no it's not like that but when i when i see the leaders of the movement start to lose weight
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and talk about eating healthy and actually doing the work like that's that's when i would agree with
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you but i just don't think it's pot like the way lizzo's going like who do we think who's the leaders
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yeah who's the leaders yeah but she's exercising constantly eating healthy uh that what's that
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lizzo puts her lunches and it's always healthy if you watch it she is healthy and she's constantly
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exercising i will pull up the food right now she posted okay maybe some of them maybe i got so
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mesmerized by the food three trainers three trainers yeah maybe no if you count the calories no i just
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did reactions to these they are not but i feel like what most people don't like about body positivity
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or the people at the top of these movements is they're they're claiming that they're a victim
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you know what i mean they're saying i you know i need to pay for two plane tickets or you know i get
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treated differently well that's all on you you you have the power to change that so 100 percent
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it's it you you can't it's just again like we said earlier it's where you deflect the game it's where
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you deflect the people aren't always overweight because they air like you need to remember a lot
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of people are overweight because they're ill or something happened and that's how they overweight so
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that's why you can't discriminate discriminating but i'm saying you you got to take the victimhood away
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from fat people the general fat person that doesn't have a disease it doesn't have
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you know uh pre-existing condition they they ultimately just fat and it's on them
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the people get nasty and that's what happens and that's that i can't i can't be sorry for someone
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okay you don't need to feel sorry for them but just don't be nasty it's 100 in your control but
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we'll say well shame guys for being short having little they'll say short man syndrome he's got a
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this he's got a that and nobody and nobody has sympathy for men but for some reason like when it's
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body positivity now we're we're supposed to have sympathy when that's in your control
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also guys guys relax honestly relax we're just educating it right so
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to live a light life you just have to things you have to see things
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everyone's relaxed i know i know we're relaxed but i think i'm gonna i'm gonna let him go though so go
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ahead where if i was to ask you where you live where do you live me yeah um at the moment i live
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in sx yeah my answer to you you live in your body first oh before you live in your house oh i live in
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my body okay that's true when you get up in the morning yeah yeah and you have breakfast yeah you
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have the opportunity to make your diet better right listen do you know i eat for breakfast porridge and
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water all right the same way of your house is the same way you take care of your body you live here first
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as much as you're trying to take care of everything outside of your body it's the same
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way you could take care of yours because that's where you live first you know i don't know you
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live anywhere else i don't know anyone who eats porridge and water i actually eat that and i'm now
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i'm used to it i'm just saying generally yeah i have porridge every day as well the same way you
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could take care of everything else in your life you can but you have the opportunity like i said i
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keep stating that i am doing those things no this is not to you this is generally okay nobody is
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arguing that i don't think anybody here is arguing that nobody here is saying you should be obese you
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should eat unhealthily you should be okay with eating unhealthily my argument is like you should not
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hold yourself back for being overweight you should just live your life i would say i would say you can't
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not hold yourself back by being overweight i would say if you are overweight you are holding
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yourself back you're going to get less opportunities you're not going to have as long of a life
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you're going to have health problems you're going to have mental health problems there is no way
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to not hold yourself back because of your weight all of those things and still say you can still want
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to do those things you can still want to be healthier in the same way that i want to be healthier
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and i'm trying to lose weight but like i still won't stop myself doing things now because of my
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weight i won't feel insecure because of my weight i won't stop myself going out but your weight will
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stop you from doing certain things like i like i'm even just first thing that comes to my
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head can i ask you why why won't you stop stop doing things so i'm oh well i enjoy doing yeah
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because like why would i not go to the beach with my friends and enjoy my summer and like just
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what's more important though you're enjoying your friends what was that sorry what's more important
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your health or your friends i'm still working on my health but like what i'm saying is i'm not gonna
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stop myself living my life because i'm overweight now i'm not gonna put my life on pause because i'm
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overweight and i don't think anyone should don't you don't need to put your life on pause though
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you just have to commit yourself yeah yeah but you say that like um i shouldn't be posting bikini
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photos on instagram and i shouldn't be doing this and i shouldn't be in a nobody's saying at the beach
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you saying that i would say well i am going to do that and i'm still going to lose weight and i'm still
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going to try and be healthy i'm still going to work on my issues but like i'm i'm also going to live my life
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and do all the things that i want to do and i think that everybody overweight watching this should
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do the same thing and when you like the reason why when a big person looks good i make them feel
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good because that is the first step of them being like do you know what i look good i feel good i can
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actually do this i can lose weight that's why i compliment big women when they look good and when
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they're feeling themselves i don't think they can look good when most men will disqualify
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no but wait wait wait when most men will disqualify you just for your weight alone
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everyone deserves to feel beautiful and they should have that but i think i think everybody
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deserves to be beautiful and i think most women will be beautiful if they lose weight and they're in
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shape if you're in shape you're at the top like 20 of women nowadays but different people have
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different beauty in their eyes but like i said beauty is objective it's based on symmetry and health like
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your opinion like everyone in this room they they don't find big people attractive that's fine
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that's understandable because we all have likes and dislikes but you need to know that it's your
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eyes and your eyes but some people people are different you know the ideal scenario is sugar puff
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it's two fat people meet each other and lose weight together that if that that's true love that's
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true that's what happens i love you i know loads of people like that because it's the struggle and when
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you have support i can imagine i can see why they lose weight it's because they have that support and
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and things that they find hard that they can't do to lose weight they get that support and they help
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one another but there are many supports and guidance out here you it's up to you to seek it poor health
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charges interest though doesn't it like i think i'm not here to like uphold the body positivity movement
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because personally i like couldn't give a crap about it but um like what i will say is poor health charges
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interest if you you know you don't go to the gym once you have a rest day or a cheat day and then
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it becomes a habit and then all of a sudden your back hurts or your ankles are swollen and now you
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find it even harder to work out because you have mobility issues like the issues just pile that's
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another thing and i think that's something that a lot of people who are unhealthy unhealthily big
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that's like a really ugly truth it's the horrible underbelly if you can even call it that
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well that's such a huge pun sorry um yeah it's like the it's the really nasty underbelly of obesity
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like having um bed sores isn't there that program like my 600 pound life or whatever and you see
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people they can't get out of bed they didn't wake up like that they just ignored very small signs your
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body whispers to you you choose to ignore it then it starts to shout at you exactly all of a sudden
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you can't get out of bed there is no amount of body positivity there is no amount of lizzo there's no
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amount of test holiday yeah it's going to take you out of that reality you have to do it yourself
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you just said the nail on your head that's it there i don't think anyone like i don't know if
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many people would deny that like anyone who is big and is you know on their journey to to health is
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acutely aware of that it's the people who are as we're saying are like nastily comfortable
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and in very poor health not just i'm not talking about aesthetics i'm talking about poor health
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those people are the people who desperately need help and i wonder if it's just like
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a drug addiction where you sort of need to be pushed into something to help you some sort
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of program i don't know how program yeah like is it is it something that needs rehab i don't know maybe
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i think we should have fat camp 100 we have we have rehab for drug addicts i'm not gonna lie like i
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would go to a fat camp 100 i think that would help me being um immersed in it why don't we encourage it in
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society like why don't why aren't there weight limits at clubs like there is like theme parks
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because it's safety like that i i i understand what i'm saying like like like smoking why aren't
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we aren't why aren't we encouraging people to lose weight why do we ignore nutritionists
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because the worst thing is going out you're in a mosh pit it's dark it's sweaty it's hot in there
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and why it's so tight is because there's a couple of fat people there and it's just like where should
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they be if not at the at the club at the gym 24 hours they shouldn't party you know look they can
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party if they want if they want i mean if it's going to contribute to them burning calories go for gold
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but their priority should be their health that's i'm making a joke but their priority should be their
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health yeah maybe we should have uh separate fat parties for fat people fat beaches for the fat people
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like we have nudist beaches no but i think the better the better wait wait the better solution
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is to go to the gym like nutritionist when i was trying to lose weight i really didn't go out i
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didn't drink i didn't like spend a lot of time out because i wanted to lose weight like that was the
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priority i actually stayed um at one of a plus size hotel in antigua what and and what it's called the
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catamaran it's called the catamaran and they actually promote like like they've got a beach
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on it so they promote walking um they they they made it plus size friendly how if you could ex if
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you wanted to exercise you could so there are places out there which yeah they are for plus size but they
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also promote being active so there are places actually that exist and i've been there
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um but you know being overweight more time it's not even you being active or not it's what you're
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eating you know that right yeah why do people go to doctors and not nutritionists because nutritionists
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don't have the i guess validation from society that doctors have i think that's hundreds of years we've
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been told to go to doctors doctors have been the people you go to for medical issues that's actually
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i think that's quite a new thing that's actually wrong correct me then a nutritionist sorry a
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nutritionist would actually tell you where you're going wrong versus a doctor that would give you
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prescription that nutritional a nutritionist are the person that would actually design a program for you
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tell you where your numbers are and know what program is going to be personalized for you to help
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you lose that weight instead of going to a doctor that would be okay you're healthy it's fine you don't
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have a health condition and versus the nutritionist will tell you your statistical sorry your statistic
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numbers that's going to help you to improve that's fine but you haven't corrected me because um that
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wasn't okay well in the case that you know in pia's case if a doctor tells you uh you're you know you've
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got a full bill of health yeah and that just not even you just in general i'd question the doctor if
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he told me that i'd be like you need to go back to medical school so it'd probably be in the best
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interest of the body positivity movement if your doctor's telling you hey yeah don't worry you're
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still healthy that yeah would you agree with that oh if personally like i can make this about myself
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if my doctor told me that i have a full bill of health i would call someone because i'd be deeply
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concerned about like his his methods because i know that i'm not healthy but then you think that's
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happening a lot with doctors then yeah but a doctor is not going to give you a nutrition program
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well full bullet health was good blood pressure cholesterol is down you know and asthma is okay
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whatever you whatever you were saying but you know if you're obviously obese and a doctor say no
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no it's all good keep going keep going how you're going i don't know if doctors do that i don't think
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doctors would say that though i just you said earlier my issue my doctor don't tell me to lose weight
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that doesn't mean i shouldn't lose weight it just means that it wasn't the core issue of my asthma
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like when i was having conversations with them and they were looking at my blood pressure and my
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cholesterol and things like that they were like okay all good don't worry about it your vitals are
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fine like these things are okay for now and i even acknowledge that like a lot of that is probably to
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do with the fact that i'm young and that when i'm older it's easy you mentioned your bmi of your
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visceral fat water percentage muscle mass these things yeah so i didn't have my bmi measured at the
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doctors but i have had it measured because they do it when they do your birth control sorry pearl for
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mentioning birth control around you uh ban it ban it um but like i have talked about my and when i
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talked about my bmi and when i had my birth control done with a nurse um they actually did the nhs has
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like um healthy plans and i have like the nhs app which i've been using to um help track my weight loss
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and things like that um along with like my fitness pal and stuff but um the nhs app and they also put me on
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like a little healthy eating thing at the time when i had my birth control because that was when they went
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into my bmi and things like that so there are things on uh the nhs that doctors and that was
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a nurse actually that gave me those things um but yeah there are things available to you you don't
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need to see it that's what i'm saying it's more accessible than yeah but a nutritionist will put
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together a plan a program to help you a program to help you lose weight i don't think doctors want
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you to be healthy no because they they make money off of you being unhealthy what the nhs you think makes
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money off of us being unhealthy 100 what was the whole last three years and it just makes money by
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selling medicine to everyone not just big people to everyone that's their business yeah but when 60
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percent of the population is overweight there's a lot of medicine you can sell well then there'd
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always be a problem remember it's the food that we're eating the food that's out that the chemicals
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that are in the food the air that whatever the these lines that we see in the air the
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the foil that we eat from the plastic cup that we drink from that's true but at the end of the day
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there's always somebody that's accomplished it even with all of those factors and yeah that's why
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we always encourage people to lose weight and and yeah we we don't say no don't lose weight but like
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i said celebrate big people but also be like nah that's unhealthy yeah i feel like that's the same
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point that we've just we've been repeating the same point is that like these two things can exist at the
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same time you know like we can exist and be happy with ourselves and live our lives and we can also want
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to be healthier especially what i've done is i've incorporated being active in my life that's what
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is that's what i see that's my exercise actually traveling doing things going through new experiences
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if i have to climb i climb if i have to swim i swim that's my way of healthy living living life i'm just
00:25:17.860
saying that a lot of people say that oh um there's struggle and struggles and i struggle when there are
00:25:24.180
people out here that have the tools to give you what you need to lose weight but bear in mind the
00:25:29.140
first people they run to is they don't they run to either doctors or they run to social media
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a lot of people who are qualified to give you the exact information that you need to help you get to
00:25:41.380
where you need to be they give you the numbers that you need to hear to give you now the motivation and
00:25:48.500
concern to get you to where you need to be and there are people out there that's qualified to do these
00:25:53.540
things instead of seeking instead of seeking information from the wrong people we need to
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find the right people to give you that support there are people out there to give you that a lot of
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big people have that want to dismay that can't and that suffer they have mobility issues or their ankle
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or something it's too late i know someone no there is no no no no but they have to eat they have to do a
00:26:18.500
lot like it's a lot of effort i know someone with no legs that's jacked yeah they have i swear to god
00:26:24.420
this dude's in better shape than me yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm like once i saw that i'm like
00:26:31.220
nobody has no legs they need to use the upper body they don't have legs they need to use their literally
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their whole body or they can't move so they have no option so if they're if you have ankle issues
00:26:44.500
okay three personal trainers ankle issues what would you do how would you how would you get them
00:26:49.940
weight to lose weight and even our doctor will tell you to lose weight i would tell them to go on a
00:26:54.820
bike yeah get on though get on a mobility bike cross train or something easy on you know but they can't
00:26:58.900
no but they can't they can't get up one cycling no but there's many no but they can't get up one
00:27:05.540
step it's great they can't get up a step or if their floor's not leveled it can affect you just
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gave you an example of someone in a wheelchair getting jacked a kind of wheelchair has to take
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an elevator up the stairs it doesn't even have to be exercised does it yeah that's what i was just
00:27:18.820
going to say putting in their mouth is diet yes if you have anger problem doesn't even have anything
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to do with physical especially if it's from a weed problem it's just diet you have to diet though to lose
00:27:27.700
be there are there are means and ways alex you i think i remember you saying that you're an ms
00:27:32.100
warrior yeah like there are circumstances that can be overcome really difficult ones that are far
00:27:38.660
more profound i would say than like me personally just like getting fat because of poor habits it's
00:27:45.460
not enough for me to just be in bed and saying oh i've had a hard life but what about when like what
00:27:49.940
about when the problems affect other people like health problems like when you can't do things with
00:27:55.220
your kids yeah 100 when you when your family has to take care of you because you're sick but people
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don't see that far you know it's sad the city comfort now but you don't see that far i don't think
00:28:06.580
anybody is advocating for that though i think that's very sad yeah it's sad but how do you stop from
00:28:11.220
getting there do you lean into body positivity or do you go the other way and thank you very much it
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depends whatever benefits you as a person and but see that that's the problem right there it's about
00:28:21.620
that's what benefits me and that's the problem with body positivity it's about me me me me it's
00:28:27.220
about the way i feel it's not just me wait it's about what i want to do it's about i don't care
00:28:32.020
what i look like to the beach to everyone else i want to feel good like it's all about me and nobody
00:28:38.020
else yeah but i meant in that context was it's what you respond to so if you as a person respond to the
00:28:43.700
body positivity moment that makes you for me personally feeling good about myself is the thing that makes me
00:28:47.940
want to lose weight when i like myself i treat myself better i eat better i'm more likely to
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have get on better with my friends but i just think if that was true i think if that was true you
00:28:56.660
wouldn't be overweight yeah like like i know you've lost 10 pounds but you know 10 pounds i haven't
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always felt like that you know and you can feel a certain way but the results speak for themselves
00:29:06.980
but i didn't like myself when i was skinny i didn't like it it's a it's not about like i love
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myself i love myself i love myself it's what you respond to in terms of if if positivity is
00:29:17.700
what motivates you great i got to a point where i was like okay i need to think positively about
00:29:21.540
this i need to help myself i'm saying let's look at i'm saying let's look at results but let's look
00:29:26.580
at let's look at the results of body positivity and we see and we see the the women that lead it get
00:29:32.660
worse and worse every year but i would argue that the people that you're giving as an example as leading
00:29:38.420
it i don't agree with what they do i don't agree with what tess holiday does i don't agree
00:29:41.860
um but for me personally i respond better to positive influence to positive if i had a
00:29:46.420
personal trainer that was like you fat bitch lose weight i wouldn't go back if i had a personal
00:29:50.580
trainer was like you're doing so great this is fantastic you've lost two pounds like i'd go
00:29:54.260
back you know and it depends what you respond to and i think like and i think if i see that as a result
00:29:59.860
like if i saw those results for you like i might think more of it but it's just tough because you're
00:30:05.380
saying body positivity is such a good thing and you're a plus size model but your results are you're still
00:30:10.020
overweight i mean i'm in the process of that but i haven't always been in favor of body positivity
00:30:15.780
point blank i would say i was more about body neutrality which is basically just not caring
00:30:22.020
and just doing whatever and that was how i thought for a long time right but body neutrality is selfish
00:30:26.900
because everybody else has to deal with your poor decisions even if you're just neutral like liking the
00:30:32.500
way you look and say i'm going to accept myself as is everybody else has to deal with your decisions
00:30:37.380
because either you're going to have health issues and the taxpayers have to deal with it
00:30:41.380
the doctors have to deal with it your family has to take care of you and it's not fair to everyone
00:30:46.980
else around you even on planes like it's not fair to the people next to you who didn't make that
00:30:52.020
decision and now you know you're invading their space again though i can't speak for those people
00:30:56.660
because that's not my issue i've never not fit in a plane seat i've never had a health issue because
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of my weight specifically i've never been in that situation i'm talking about the movement in
00:31:04.580
general yeah but i'm like i'm saying like being content in general is selfish because everybody
00:31:10.260
else has to deal with the issues but being content with yourself doesn't mean that you shouldn't want
00:31:14.340
to be better it just means that you shouldn't hate yourself what else what else is what else is content
00:31:18.900
content as happy as is i think it just means that you shouldn't hate yourself if i'm if i'm content
00:31:24.340
with my money i'm not going to make more money if i'm discontent with my money then i'm going to make
00:31:28.260
i think that's a great example i'm very content with the amount of money i make would i like to
00:31:32.180
still make more fantastic yeah i would but you're not going to take steps to make more money if you're
00:31:36.900
content with the amount of money in general we're getting into semantics though aren't we if we're
00:31:41.140
using the word content like i agree with you know like being content means that you are you're stationary
00:31:46.900
you're happy no more progress but i think the point here is that you can enjoy your day you can go to
00:31:53.140
the beach with your friends if you want to and actually enjoy a day on the beach with your friends
00:31:57.940
without the fact that you are maybe not your healthiest weight or not your best shape and
00:32:03.300
allowing that to take your day even even at the beach like it's going to taint your day whether
00:32:07.620
anyone says anything to you or not it's going to taint your day you're not going to be able to do the
00:32:11.300
same things your in shape friends are going to do i there's no there's no way you guys are going to
00:32:16.980
have the same mobility as someone as the as the trainers here if you guys go surfing if you go tubing
00:32:22.740
like you're not going to be able to do the same thing so while while while it might not affect you
00:32:29.940
now it might be you're young maybe it'll affect you later but at some point life is going to hit you
00:32:35.700
and that's why i promote eating healthy and actually trying your best to actually i'm not
00:32:41.220
i'm not talking about you i'm talking about the movement yeah i think that's the thing it's different
00:32:45.220
is do people different it's not different people see different narratives it depends what you're reading
00:32:51.140
what you're seeing and with a lot of things there's a lot of confusion it's like people just want to
00:32:56.820
confuse you and they want people to have discussions like this and they want people to fight but really
00:33:01.780
if you speak to real people you get real opinions that's how it is i don't think it's i think it's
00:33:06.580
simple i think it's if you're fat you're unhealthy if you're not fat you're healthy it should be as
00:33:12.500
simple as that really they shouldn't be like oh it's confusing you know there's going to be people
00:33:17.300
like i said there's a small amount small percentage of people that are you know probably do have
00:33:21.860
conditions and and whatnot but at the end of the day if you're fat you can acknowledge that you're
00:33:26.420
unhealthy and you've all agreed that you want to better yourself and and start eating healthier
00:33:32.020
whether it's training as well so i mean yeah you can keep trying to individualize it but at the end of
00:33:37.220
the day it's it's very it's night and day and it's also you need to see where a lot of people are
00:33:42.660
obese it's the poor areas if you look at obesity rates it's the poor areas and what are what are
00:33:48.900
they in poor areas not great shops for food it's so cheap stuff it's not good for you are you saying
00:33:55.620
the obesity rates are higher in in like third world countries not third world countries but just
00:34:02.020
generally like for example but i'm saying like that that's i'm just thinking if your premise is true
00:34:08.420
if we're going to say it's about wealth then i would imagine we would see in poorer countries they
00:34:13.620
would be fatter than in richer countries okay for example in england um there's iceland's um it's
00:34:20.660
pound it's like pounder meal you can get a pound ready meal you can get um nuggets and chips i need you
00:34:28.260
to answer my initial question though so so in third world countries they're fatter than in the western
00:34:34.100
countries in in there are places there's fiji no fiji in general i know homeless people with abs
00:34:42.420
there are places in the world there where it is poor and there and they're big
00:34:49.060
people in poorer countries oh not in average no it's in the uk the western side correct so i'm saying
00:34:54.260
i don't think it's a wealth thing okay yeah i think it's a poor like i mean we're the fattest in america
00:34:59.140
you know yeah but then within america what groups of people just to get deeper on that point i don't
00:35:05.300
know if i really have an opinion or a strong one on this but within america or even if we take london
00:35:10.900
are we saying then that the poorer people within those places are more likely to be unhealthy obese
00:35:16.420
than the richer people i think it's it's uh easier for them to get obese why yeah if you're living on
00:35:22.980
like a minimum wage income and you gotta get fast food all the time yeah that's probably the case in
00:35:27.780
america but there's a large portion of the population in america according 30 according to
00:35:33.860
the cdc 38 states plus puerto rico have obesity rates above 30 percent the 10 states and territories
00:35:40.580
with the lowest obesity rates are district of columbia hawaii colorado massachusetts california
00:35:47.140
florida new jersey washington vermont and new york um sounds like a choice then yeah we have to overlay
00:35:52.980
that with um like i don't know income per household colorado's low obesity rate can be attributed to
00:36:00.260
culture and lifestyle many residents enjoy outdoor activities such as hiking as well as conscious of
00:36:07.300
eating whole nutrient dense foods for their own well-being this is surprising to me west virginia is
00:36:13.860
the most obese state with an obesity rate of 40 percent west virginia a lot of them are poor areas
00:36:20.820
also has uh type 2 diabetes diabetes at 15.7 wow 15.7 percent of west virginia has type 2 diabetes
00:36:32.500
can i ask when would be the point of okay i've got to make a change
00:36:36.740
um when you have a health problem and when like for example um i when i thought that i'm pre-diabetic
00:36:45.460
i instantly started literally i consciously was like no i'm not gonna eat no crisps i'm not gonna eat
00:36:53.060
no chocolate no i'm gonna get diabetes and i'm gonna mess my life up so i i reversed it and i started
00:36:59.860
drinking more water so that anything bad flushes out um started having vinegar and water like just
00:37:07.060
doing random things when you get told uh if you keep going this way you might die that's when you're
00:37:11.940
gonna make it sweet i just listened to you and i feel and i felt moved i think that's when i made when
00:37:16.900
that's when i took it seriously when i was told by the doctor and that's a part of me being active
00:37:22.420
basically because i don't want to have high blood pressure i don't want to have diabetes so it's because
00:37:27.540
i can't see him at the back i feel like i can't i don't i know i was thinking i wish we sat in there
00:37:32.100
i can't see him if that was promoted on social media like this you would be a happier place
00:37:37.780
for me it was when i couldn't go down a slide i was at like a amusement thing and i couldn't go down
00:37:43.300
a slide that my friends went down and that was really embarrassing for me like i was like oh uh like
00:37:49.860
i am not the average person anymore and that was a moment at which i was like oh i want to be able to
00:37:55.380
do these things and so and i made a video because i i knew that that would hold me accountable on my
00:38:00.100
social media well i also think that it's a negative consequence which kind of it kind of you might not
00:38:05.140
call it bullying but that's that's a negative consequence and it seemed to have worked because
00:38:08.980
now you're trying to lose weight it's not from a person though and it doesn't mean i don't like
00:38:12.820
myself i just i didn't say i didn't say don't yeah it's a wake-up call and that's why i was saying
00:38:18.580
sometimes bullying is a wake-up call i don't think bullying that amusement that amusement park i know
00:38:23.300
was bullying saying you can't it was a safety thing that's a different thing i'm gonna read
00:38:28.820
super chats for uh one second um okay mr b no they're not they're not bad well okay mr b96 um damn
00:38:39.380
another uh term to add body neutrality smh haka police redheads man found cutie slapping but doesn't
00:38:48.900
respect her uh hey you most obese people are addicts dopamine is the real driver of addiction
00:38:55.780
food addiction is the only uh one where you still have to use your drug to survive difficult to
00:39:03.060
overcome but it can be done find healthy dopamine triggers a scout in a bradley i find health sexy not
00:39:11.460
too skinny not too big a crackhead is not sexy but lizzie isn't lizzo isn't either um hakata police
00:39:18.740
uh fats will tap dance around accountability all night mr b they're not acting like ladies i'm not
00:39:28.180
taking accountability uh the same way uni doesn't guarantee a job personal trainers don't guarantee
00:39:34.260
losing weight uh dr david baker in the spirit of the body positivity movement i'd like to announce the
00:39:40.100
start of the chain smoking positivity movement the drinking bleach positivity movement and the put a
00:39:46.100
shotgun in your mouth with your toe on the trigger positivity movement i love the body positivity
00:39:52.820
movement almost as much as i love chain smoke the chain smoking body pot the chain smoking positivity
00:39:58.980
movement the drinking bleach positivity movement and the shotgun in mouth toe on trigger positivity movement
00:40:07.220
um hakata police welcome to copecast um ricky a donation just get just to give a shout out to pia
00:40:15.780
family a doug mpa everything yeah everything you get paid for um everything you get paid for should
00:40:24.260
require sacrifice plus size models don't have to sacrifice anything that's the problem i have to go to
00:40:30.340
work every day i don't want to but i do it hashtag lazy whales doug mpa we i'm sorry we we harpoon whales
00:40:39.220
over here pia a whale attacked pearl and we cannot let that happen again it was attack it was used i saw it
00:40:45.140
used to be that big girls had to have a good attitude to counter their weight but those days are
00:40:49.860
gone doug mpa um body positivity really became a movement after the war the war in iraq started
00:40:57.060
soldiers were coming back missing limbs it was supposed to be made for a woman or a man to wear a biking
00:41:05.460
miss it to wear a biking missing an arm or a leg whales hijacked the movement selfish whales
00:41:11.620
um what do you think about this super chat everything you get should everything that you
00:41:18.420
pay get paid for should require sacrifice plus size models don't have to sacrifice anything that's the
00:41:23.860
problem i have to go to work every day and i don't want to do it but i do it i agree with that i think it's
00:41:30.340
if what are you sacrificing for your plus size model is i could be a plus size model starting tomorrow i'll
00:41:36.100
just start putting on weight get pudgy get a bit bigger actually i might not be a good looking but
00:41:42.660
but i mean i could make steps towards becoming a plus size model maybe i guess a bit of cosmetic
00:41:47.060
surgery but just get fat and then maybe sign up to some promo may go so you just need to just stick
00:41:53.460
to like i i feel actually hot i feel hot could anyone could anyone be a plus and i know yeah maybe if i
00:41:59.140
lost some weight i'll even be hot but i feel happy with the way i look but if you put on weight because
00:42:04.020
people are so used to looking at you you might not be happy with yourself because you might be like
00:42:08.180
oh my god and then you need to learn to love you that's not the question is it do plus size models
00:42:13.220
sacrifice anything so i would respond to that comment by saying that person sounds more like they have a
00:42:17.300
problem with capitalism than anything else because why are you doing a job you don't enjoy i really love
00:42:21.700
my job i make content all day i do brand deals i stream on twitch i have a great time with my life
00:42:27.620
and i enjoy my modeling um none of that feels like a sacrifice to me none of my jobs have ever felt
00:42:32.340
before that i worked in sales again i really enjoyed that i like i i never felt like my life was a
00:42:37.300
chore um and it sounds more like you have an issue with that and no i don't think anyone could be a
00:42:41.620
plus size model i need you you need a specific look regardless and including being plus size to be a
00:42:47.300
plus size model you still need to have an hourglass shape i disagree you need to you can't be an apple
00:42:51.780
it doesn't work in the content creator in the past wait wait hold on he started i'll let you go i would say
00:42:57.780
every job has a form of sacrifice so that person that's in the super chat in works nine to five
00:43:03.140
doesn't want to go has to go pearl being a content creator puts in hours probably doesn't have can
00:43:07.620
socialize as much misses out on that doesn't see friends a model an actual model probably has to
00:43:14.340
starve herself sometimes uh as said work rigorous hours travel a lot there's sacrifice what does they do
00:43:21.780
are insane workouts are crazy yeah what does a plus size model sacrifice why do they need why do you
00:43:27.300
need people to be unhappy to earn their money no i would say the general is that in in work when you
00:43:32.980
work you sacrifice something when you strive for something you have to sacrifice something what does
00:43:36.900
a plus size model sacrifice well i'm in a room with three pts and no one's saying that the plus size
00:43:41.380
model is sacrificing her health despite the fact that we've spent the last hour talking about health
00:43:46.020
so you think that should be a job then no you sacrifice your health for money i'm not going
00:43:50.820
to let you put a spin on that i didn't say that that should be you said they're sacrificing their
00:43:54.420
health no but they are sacrificing their health aren't they if a person we just discussed that if a
00:43:57.860
person is plus size and they're maintaining their plus size like brand their identity they're sacrificing
00:44:04.420
their health because being fat becomes a hustle no that is the diagram and i i i i guess it's not the
00:44:10.340
best way to put it a sacrifice but it's more that like in order to get money and jobs you should have to
00:44:15.780
do something hard and in getting fat is easy that's the easy way out and now we're paying people to
00:44:23.860
do the easy thing it's like if i go to an nba game and i see below average nba or basketball players it's
00:44:33.060
kind of like why are they there but yet wait wait wait wait but now we have we we go to modeling shows and
00:44:42.100
we have below average bodies being modeled when before that was like the epitome of perfection
00:44:48.740
well it's just not a skilled a particularly skilled profession it's just a model it's a model
00:44:54.180
it's a model a skilled profession i just said that it isn't a model i don't think it's particularly
00:44:59.220
skilled like if we're comparing you miss any point it's just for that company
00:45:04.180
didn't you just say being attractive as well as maintaining a workout a good diet
00:45:08.740
did none of you watch america's next top model nobody nobody coached you on how to be the best
00:45:15.060
model i don't want to share that company just looking for a market to make more money that's
00:45:18.980
all it is equality that's the company just looking for a market to make more money but you agreed you
00:45:24.340
said that uh what what pearl said getting fat is easy agree yeah so what there's no there's no sacrifice
00:45:31.140
what your health is just sacrifice i don't understand how we're not agreeing on that point
00:45:35.300
despite as many of you know i was just banned on tick tock and we are demonetized on a daily basis
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