JustPearlyThings - October 18, 2023


She TWISTED Everything Just To Suit Her Body Standard


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00:00:00.000 stay on point but how are you going to do it unless you're like stuck in your ways
00:00:03.960 and you need to break the cycle you know and a lot of people aren't breaking the cycle you're
00:00:08.020 saying earlier on it was hard for you to do it but for whatever reason like we need to break
00:00:12.860 this barrel so how are we going to do that just like a concert you just say beyonce if you want
00:00:18.080 to go to a beyonce concert bad and you don't have the money you will find this money someway somehow
00:00:24.480 priorities 100% I actually really wanted to go but as a freelancer you will find a way
00:00:33.200 so it's the same way you find a way to lose weight
00:00:35.780 where I think it's gone wrong is what was your name again sorry I'm Pia
00:00:39.920 Pia where it's gone wrong is you're getting uh rewarded almost on social media you're saying
00:00:46.680 oh comments found me attractive it's okay but in reality like I said before nine nine out of ten
00:00:53.760 people would say it's unattractive and I think you guys could agree with that but I again as I said
00:01:00.000 like I've never struggled I've never felt unattractive in my life I've never got into a
00:01:04.400 club that is strict about like mayfair clubs I've always got in doesn't matter what way I am I've
00:01:09.180 always felt attractive and been attractive in my life like I've never struggled is that is that
00:01:14.920 saying are you are are you waiting until like are you going to continue I don't want to say continue
00:01:21.140 getting to where you are but you're gonna stay comfortable until no I just think it's a criteria
00:01:26.340 of what you think attractive is I'm trying to you're you're telling yourself you're attractive
00:01:30.600 and you're you're putting the criteria as I get into mayfair clubs and exclusive parties and whatnot
00:01:35.660 but I if the general consensus of what is attractive of what men find beautiful in women
00:01:43.580 then I'm not saying to your face that you probably wouldn't take that but I'm just saying
00:01:47.640 at your current weight probably not but what I would say is that like I am actively trying to
00:01:53.300 lose weight but that has nothing to do with how attractive I am and that is not something that
00:01:56.780 motivates me I'm not trying to lose weight because of how attractive I think other people I'm not
00:02:05.120 saying why but I'm saying your weight absolutely does dictate how attractive you are okay yeah like
00:02:09.740 fine but that's not a motivator for me losing weight there's not a motivation it's just whether you're
00:02:15.300 attractive or not that's what she's saying weight has a direct impact on how attractive you are and
00:02:21.560 and I think if all attention I mean you just talked about the attention you got from Instagram so if
00:02:26.760 all attention was taken from you tomorrow I think it would motivate you to lose weight but but the
00:02:31.580 problem is even overweight women still get attention because of Instagram social media and all of this
00:02:37.660 stuff that like normalizes obesity like a hundred years ago everybody was in shape so if you were
00:02:43.260 overweight like you would be shamed everybody would say something you were the outcast but now it's
00:02:49.020 normal that's because people have different beauty in their eyes like some people they will look at
00:02:57.600 someone and and weight wouldn't matter it's their real beauty so that's why you've seen the big girl
00:03:03.000 with the fit guy or the big guy with only believe it because people only believe it when the men with all the
00:03:09.660 options start picking big women
00:03:13.660 maybe the men but you'll see a hot chick with a really rich ugly guy yeah because you've got money and status yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:03:23.660 name me one Hollywood a-lister that's gone out with a morbidly obese woman can't think of one
00:03:28.620 no I'm sorry they got a public profile to think about because no because there are a lot of secret
00:03:34.620 chub chasers let me tell you that a lot of secret secret doesn't count women value commitment so secret
00:03:44.100 doesn't count that's like saying oh I'm this person's side chick it doesn't count like it doesn't it doesn't
00:03:51.780 matter so if we're talking about uh being attractive to men yep we could sit here and all jab at pia or
00:04:00.980 person x and say yeah but you're not attractive to men because you're fat a she's already got a boyfriend
00:04:07.460 b i would say that the goalposts always change for women because even if person x were to lose weight
00:04:14.900 maybe they i don't know have dark hair and men prefer blondes and then she's got to bleach her hair
00:04:20.500 and she is too short but there's nothing she can do about her height so her dating pool is always going
00:04:25.300 to be that little bit smaller preference is bred by variation look at all of the variation between like
00:04:31.940 the people in this room there are some people let's talk about now women and being attracted to men
00:04:37.300 there are people like who would prefer you john over person being and that's fine right like if you
00:04:45.060 are not attractive to person a you're going to be attractive to someone else but the criteria will
00:04:49.940 always change the goalposts will always move especially for women because we know that there's
00:04:54.180 a huge market around like beauty standards the goalposts move for men i mean probably just about to say
00:05:00.020 that as well you got to have a high status to a command and attractive woman but to that point
00:05:05.220 i mean for pia i'm glad you found love it's great for you and you've got a boyfriend but would you
00:05:10.740 think if you were healthier maybe skinnier that you would find someone other than your boyfriend
00:05:16.340 that's a bit more attractive a bit more higher status as a higher paying job i'm just trying to
00:05:21.620 yeah do you think if you were more attractive due to your weight that you would find someone better
00:05:27.140 than your current boyfriend or is that too personal to us i'm one more tv no i think that my boyfriend
00:05:31.220 is great my boyfriend's very kind he's very generous he pays for everything takes me on holiday we
00:05:35.300 literally just came back from holiday paid for everything by the prada bags he's no he's
00:05:40.740 a wonderful man i'm great on you why why why you got these bikini pictures but no boyfriend on your
00:05:46.420 instagram because he so he owns a business and he doesn't want my brand associated with him yeah
00:05:52.100 which is like that's a red flag pair but he doesn't it's his choice like i've offered but um he
00:05:58.500 doesn't want his brand associated with mine just in case get cancelled or something i don't know is
00:06:01.620 that true love uh what does that mean he doesn't want his brand associated with you but you guys
00:06:06.980 yeah because he has a company you guys are a couple yeah but he has a company his private
00:06:11.060 stuff is all associated with me like our facebooks and things like that that just our friends can see
00:06:15.380 but um not like publicly because but you didn't you didn't answer my question do you think if you
00:06:20.740 were skinnier you could have got a more attractive boyfriend no i love my boyfriend and i think he's
00:06:25.300 incredibly attractive and i think he's incredibly attractive to me so you you do think if you're skinnier
00:06:30.260 you wouldn't i've been skinnier man they like each other they find each other attractive and i agree
00:06:35.220 there's always going to be someone that finds bigger women attractive let's let's take it away
00:06:39.140 from you you probably got someone in your friend circle let's take it let's take it but let's let's
00:06:45.060 take it away from you so it's not a person yeah yeah so like let's just say the average chick do you
00:06:49.540 think she has more options at 250 pounds i'm sorry i don't know the conversion of that or 120 pounds
00:06:55.300 which is like a skinny chick i think it depends on her figure personally what do you think i think it
00:07:02.260 depends on the girl for me personally i prefer my boyfriend that i have now that i'm overweight
00:07:07.620 that i did my boyfriend i had when i was skinny sorry lewis well again we're taking this away we're
00:07:13.060 taking this we're taking this away from you away from you so just the average chick being obese or
00:07:18.900 being skinny but i've talked about how i had more attention when i was that way but also women need
00:07:23.300 to pick correctly and a lot of women pick wrong it doesn't matter you can have the most attractive
00:07:27.460 woman in the world and she will still pick a fucking dickhead like it just you know what i
00:07:31.380 mean like it doesn't matter you have to pick correctly and a lot of that has to do with your
00:07:34.420 self-worth and self-esteem which for me doesn't correlate to my weight well and i'm not discrediting
00:07:41.860 what you're saying about picking correctly my only point is that the girl thinner will have more
00:07:46.020 options every girl has so many options just being a woman if you go on tinder it doesn't matter
00:07:53.700 like tess holiday can go on like you're you're right tinder right now and she'll have more sex
00:07:58.740 but not commitment from the men that we want and we can see this because women are con there are more
00:08:04.420 and more women that are going to be single and childless they're predicting half of us are going
00:08:08.180 to be single and childless meaning that the men are not living up to what the women want
00:08:14.580 just remember it's not personal to you just um yeah i i don't take it personally but like i don't
00:08:20.580 know like yeah and in terms of that question that's a very big question i don't know what
00:08:25.700 the answer is but i don't think any woman struggles for attention well yeah but attention isn't
00:08:31.300 commitment and relationships which is what women want but like who i don't i've never met a woman
00:08:35.540 that really genuinely struggles to get a boy to date her like it what uh i would say ugly chicks
00:08:43.220 i've met a lot of struggle i've met a lot of men that struggle to get women to date a boy but not women a
00:08:48.340 boy but not the boy they want i would say that's really common and even to to your point i say i
00:08:55.060 from my experience guys that are going out or committed to larger women i'm saying like fat chicks
00:09:02.820 they they are usually not the man in the relationship does that make sense i don't think
00:09:07.220 they're wearing the pants nine times out of ten actually i think they are wearing the pants because
00:09:12.500 they're black they're helping the big person do things but help them with their just help them
00:09:20.260 no but that would make sense though because if you're if you're helping her do things then she's
00:09:24.660 wearing the pants because in a traditional relationship she's helping him not the other
00:09:28.660 but that's the thing it's again it's down to it's down to each individual relationship some people
00:09:34.260 motivate themselves like you like you you mentioned a few of the big stories how people are promoting
00:09:42.100 eating but then there are so many stories where people met each other and they lost the weight
00:09:46.820 together there's so many hundreds and i'm saying and i'm saying i wish the body positivity movement
00:09:53.460 would promote those yes instead of lizzo i wish they would promote weight loss instead of people that
00:09:59.380 are content being big i think we really wanted to be positive about it that's what we would promote
00:10:04.900 and i'm sorry that is just not the consensus on what we see in the media but pearl it's not a real
00:10:11.780 what i'm saying is i feel like the media the media has a narrative right but it's almost like a lot
00:10:19.300 some of the plus-size things that i see written on magazines or when i say i can't relate to it because
00:10:26.180 i'm like no it's not like that but when i when i see the leaders of the movement start to lose weight
00:10:30.900 and talk about eating healthy and actually doing the work like that's that's when i would agree with
00:10:35.540 you but i just don't think it's pot like the way lizzo's going like who do we think who's the leaders
00:10:39.460 yeah who's the leaders yeah but she's exercising constantly eating healthy uh that what's that
00:10:44.420 lizzo puts her lunches and it's always healthy if you watch it she is healthy and she's constantly
00:10:51.060 exercising i will pull up the food right now she posted okay maybe some of them maybe i got so
00:10:57.860 mesmerized by the food three trainers three trainers yeah maybe no if you count the calories no i just
00:11:03.380 did reactions to these they are not but i feel like what most people don't like about body positivity
00:11:09.220 or the people at the top of these movements is they're they're claiming that they're a victim
00:11:14.740 you know what i mean they're saying i you know i need to pay for two plane tickets or you know i get
00:11:20.340 treated differently well that's all on you you you have the power to change that so 100 percent
00:11:25.460 it's it you you can't it's just again like we said earlier it's where you deflect the game it's where
00:11:29.620 you deflect the people aren't always overweight because they air like you need to remember a lot
00:11:34.020 of people are overweight because they're ill or something happened and that's how they overweight so
00:11:38.820 that's why you can't discriminate discriminating but i'm saying you you got to take the victimhood away
00:11:45.460 from fat people the general fat person that doesn't have a disease it doesn't have
00:11:49.460 you know uh pre-existing condition they they ultimately just fat and it's on them
00:11:55.700 the people get nasty and that's what happens and that's that i can't i can't be sorry for someone
00:12:00.420 okay you don't need to feel sorry for them but just don't be nasty it's 100 in your control but
00:12:05.860 we'll say well shame guys for being short having little they'll say short man syndrome he's got a
00:12:10.820 this he's got a that and nobody and nobody has sympathy for men but for some reason like when it's
00:12:16.020 body positivity now we're we're supposed to have sympathy when that's in your control
00:12:20.260 also guys guys relax honestly relax we're just educating it right so
00:12:30.020 to live a light life you just have to things you have to see things
00:12:35.460 everyone's relaxed i know i know we're relaxed but i think i'm gonna i'm gonna let him go though so go
00:12:40.020 ahead where if i was to ask you where you live where do you live me yeah um at the moment i live
00:12:46.180 in sx yeah my answer to you you live in your body first oh before you live in your house oh i live in
00:12:51.940 my body okay that's true when you get up in the morning yeah yeah and you have breakfast yeah you
00:12:57.940 have the opportunity to make your diet better right listen do you know i eat for breakfast porridge and
00:13:03.300 water all right the same way of your house is the same way you take care of your body you live here first
00:13:08.420 as much as you're trying to take care of everything outside of your body it's the same
00:13:12.260 way you could take care of yours because that's where you live first you know i don't know you
00:13:16.340 live anywhere else i don't know anyone who eats porridge and water i actually eat that and i'm now
00:13:20.980 i'm used to it i'm just saying generally yeah i have porridge every day as well the same way you
00:13:26.340 could take care of everything else in your life you can but you have the opportunity like i said i
00:13:30.980 keep stating that i am doing those things no this is not to you this is generally okay nobody is
00:13:36.740 arguing that i don't think anybody here is arguing that nobody here is saying you should be obese you
00:13:41.700 should eat unhealthily you should be okay with eating unhealthily my argument is like you should not
00:13:46.820 hold yourself back for being overweight you should just live your life i would say i would say you can't
00:13:51.380 not hold yourself back by being overweight i would say if you are overweight you are holding
00:13:55.620 yourself back you're going to get less opportunities you're not going to have as long of a life
00:14:00.020 you're going to have health problems you're going to have mental health problems there is no way
00:14:04.580 to not hold yourself back because of your weight all of those things and still say you can still want
00:14:10.660 to do those things you can still want to be healthier in the same way that i want to be healthier
00:14:13.300 and i'm trying to lose weight but like i still won't stop myself doing things now because of my
00:14:17.540 weight i won't feel insecure because of my weight i won't stop myself going out but your weight will
00:14:21.540 stop you from doing certain things like i like i'm even just first thing that comes to my
00:14:25.380 head can i ask you why why won't you stop stop doing things so i'm oh well i enjoy doing yeah
00:14:34.980 because like why would i not go to the beach with my friends and enjoy my summer and like just
00:14:39.940 what's more important though you're enjoying your friends what was that sorry what's more important
00:14:44.500 your health or your friends i'm still working on my health but like what i'm saying is i'm not gonna
00:14:50.180 stop myself living my life because i'm overweight now i'm not gonna put my life on pause because i'm
00:14:54.900 overweight and i don't think anyone should don't you don't need to put your life on pause though
00:14:58.340 you just have to commit yourself yeah yeah but you say that like um i shouldn't be posting bikini
00:15:04.020 photos on instagram and i shouldn't be doing this and i shouldn't be in a nobody's saying at the beach
00:15:07.300 i'm pals just said that no i would say that
00:15:13.540 you saying that i would say well i am going to do that and i'm still going to lose weight and i'm still
00:15:16.740 going to try and be healthy i'm still going to work on my issues but like i'm i'm also going to live my life
00:15:21.220 and do all the things that i want to do and i think that everybody overweight watching this should
00:15:24.180 do the same thing and when you like the reason why when a big person looks good i make them feel
00:15:30.420 good because that is the first step of them being like do you know what i look good i feel good i can
00:15:35.300 actually do this i can lose weight that's why i compliment big women when they look good and when
00:15:40.740 they're feeling themselves i don't think they can look good when most men will disqualify
00:15:45.220 no but wait wait wait when most men will disqualify you just for your weight alone
00:15:50.020 everyone deserves to feel beautiful and they should have that but i think i think everybody
00:15:54.100 deserves to be beautiful and i think most women will be beautiful if they lose weight and they're in
00:15:59.540 shape if you're in shape you're at the top like 20 of women nowadays but different people have
00:16:03.940 different beauty in their eyes but like i said beauty is objective it's based on symmetry and health like
00:16:10.260 your opinion like everyone in this room they they don't find big people attractive that's fine
00:16:15.140 that's understandable because we all have likes and dislikes but you need to know that it's your
00:16:20.500 eyes and your eyes but some people people are different you know the ideal scenario is sugar puff
00:16:26.420 it's two fat people meet each other and lose weight together that if that that's true love that's
00:16:31.140 true that's what happens i love you i know loads of people like that because it's the struggle and when
00:16:36.180 you have support i can imagine i can see why they lose weight it's because they have that support and
00:16:41.300 and things that they find hard that they can't do to lose weight they get that support and they help
00:16:46.340 one another but there are many supports and guidance out here you it's up to you to seek it poor health
00:16:52.340 charges interest though doesn't it like i think i'm not here to like uphold the body positivity movement
00:16:58.900 because personally i like couldn't give a crap about it but um like what i will say is poor health charges
00:17:05.060 interest if you you know you don't go to the gym once you have a rest day or a cheat day and then
00:17:09.700 it becomes a habit and then all of a sudden your back hurts or your ankles are swollen and now you
00:17:14.340 find it even harder to work out because you have mobility issues like the issues just pile that's
00:17:19.380 another thing and i think that's something that a lot of people who are unhealthy unhealthily big
00:17:26.820 that's like a really ugly truth it's the horrible underbelly if you can even call it that
00:17:32.260 well that's such a huge pun sorry um yeah it's like the it's the really nasty underbelly of obesity
00:17:40.420 like having um bed sores isn't there that program like my 600 pound life or whatever and you see
00:17:45.140 people they can't get out of bed they didn't wake up like that they just ignored very small signs your
00:17:50.580 body whispers to you you choose to ignore it then it starts to shout at you exactly all of a sudden
00:17:55.220 you can't get out of bed there is no amount of body positivity there is no amount of lizzo there's no
00:18:00.820 amount of test holiday yeah it's going to take you out of that reality you have to do it yourself
00:18:05.460 you just said the nail on your head that's it there i don't think anyone like i don't know if
00:18:09.620 many people would deny that like anyone who is big and is you know on their journey to to health is
00:18:16.740 acutely aware of that it's the people who are as we're saying are like nastily comfortable
00:18:22.580 and in very poor health not just i'm not talking about aesthetics i'm talking about poor health
00:18:28.660 those people are the people who desperately need help and i wonder if it's just like
00:18:32.500 a drug addiction where you sort of need to be pushed into something to help you some sort
00:18:37.300 of program i don't know how program yeah like is it is it something that needs rehab i don't know maybe
00:18:44.820 i think we should have fat camp 100 we have we have rehab for drug addicts i'm not gonna lie like i
00:18:50.660 would go to a fat camp 100 i think that would help me being um immersed in it why don't we encourage it in
00:18:55.620 society like why don't why aren't there weight limits at clubs like there is like theme parks
00:19:01.220 because it's safety like that i i i understand what i'm saying like like like smoking why aren't
00:19:06.740 we aren't why aren't we encouraging people to lose weight why do we ignore nutritionists
00:19:13.460 because the worst thing is going out you're in a mosh pit it's dark it's sweaty it's hot in there
00:19:18.340 and why it's so tight is because there's a couple of fat people there and it's just like where should
00:19:23.540 they be if not at the at the club at the gym 24 hours they shouldn't party you know look they can
00:19:31.460 party if they want if they want i mean if it's going to contribute to them burning calories go for gold
00:19:37.540 but their priority should be their health that's i'm making a joke but their priority should be their
00:19:41.140 health yeah maybe we should have uh separate fat parties for fat people fat beaches for the fat people
00:19:46.500 like we have nudist beaches no but i think the better the better wait wait the better solution
00:19:55.220 is to go to the gym like nutritionist when i was trying to lose weight i really didn't go out i
00:19:59.860 didn't drink i didn't like spend a lot of time out because i wanted to lose weight like that was the
00:20:04.740 priority i actually stayed um at one of a plus size hotel in antigua what and and what it's called the
00:20:13.700 catamaran it's called the catamaran and they actually promote like like they've got a beach
00:20:19.540 on it so they promote walking um they they they made it plus size friendly how if you could ex if
00:20:26.020 you wanted to exercise you could so there are places out there which yeah they are for plus size but they
00:20:32.260 also promote being active so there are places actually that exist and i've been there
00:20:37.220 um but you know being overweight more time it's not even you being active or not it's what you're
00:20:42.980 eating you know that right yeah why do people go to doctors and not nutritionists because nutritionists
00:20:49.460 don't have the i guess validation from society that doctors have i think that's hundreds of years we've
00:20:56.340 been told to go to doctors doctors have been the people you go to for medical issues that's actually
00:21:00.900 i think that's quite a new thing that's actually wrong correct me then a nutritionist sorry a
00:21:05.460 nutritionist would actually tell you where you're going wrong versus a doctor that would give you
00:21:09.060 prescription that nutritional a nutritionist are the person that would actually design a program for you
00:21:14.340 tell you where your numbers are and know what program is going to be personalized for you to help
00:21:21.700 you lose that weight instead of going to a doctor that would be okay you're healthy it's fine you don't
00:21:26.900 have a health condition and versus the nutritionist will tell you your statistical sorry your statistic
00:21:33.860 numbers that's going to help you to improve that's fine but you haven't corrected me because um that
00:21:39.700 wasn't okay well in the case that you know in pia's case if a doctor tells you uh you're you know you've
00:21:46.020 got a full bill of health yeah and that just not even you just in general i'd question the doctor if
00:21:50.260 he told me that i'd be like you need to go back to medical school so it'd probably be in the best
00:21:55.140 interest of the body positivity movement if your doctor's telling you hey yeah don't worry you're
00:22:00.420 still healthy that yeah would you agree with that oh if personally like i can make this about myself
00:22:04.740 if my doctor told me that i have a full bill of health i would call someone because i'd be deeply
00:22:09.140 concerned about like his his methods because i know that i'm not healthy but then you think that's
00:22:14.500 happening a lot with doctors then yeah but a doctor is not going to give you a nutrition program
00:22:19.380 well full bullet health was good blood pressure cholesterol is down you know and asthma is okay
00:22:25.540 whatever you whatever you were saying but you know if you're obviously obese and a doctor say no
00:22:30.420 no it's all good keep going keep going how you're going i don't know if doctors do that i don't think
00:22:34.980 doctors would say that though i just you said earlier my issue my doctor don't tell me to lose weight
00:22:41.460 that doesn't mean i shouldn't lose weight it just means that it wasn't the core issue of my asthma
00:22:45.460 like when i was having conversations with them and they were looking at my blood pressure and my
00:22:48.820 cholesterol and things like that they were like okay all good don't worry about it your vitals are
00:22:52.180 fine like these things are okay for now and i even acknowledge that like a lot of that is probably to
00:22:56.820 do with the fact that i'm young and that when i'm older it's easy you mentioned your bmi of your
00:23:01.940 visceral fat water percentage muscle mass these things yeah so i didn't have my bmi measured at the
00:23:07.940 doctors but i have had it measured because they do it when they do your birth control sorry pearl for
00:23:11.620 mentioning birth control around you uh ban it ban it um but like i have talked about my and when i
00:23:17.460 talked about my bmi and when i had my birth control done with a nurse um they actually did the nhs has
00:23:24.100 like um healthy plans and i have like the nhs app which i've been using to um help track my weight loss
00:23:29.780 and things like that um along with like my fitness pal and stuff but um the nhs app and they also put me on
00:23:34.900 like a little healthy eating thing at the time when i had my birth control because that was when they went
00:23:38.420 into my bmi and things like that so there are things on uh the nhs that doctors and that was
00:23:42.500 a nurse actually that gave me those things um but yeah there are things available to you you don't
00:23:46.420 need to see it that's what i'm saying it's more accessible than yeah but a nutritionist will put
00:23:50.500 together a plan a program to help you a program to help you lose weight i don't think doctors want
00:23:54.980 you to be healthy no because they they make money off of you being unhealthy what the nhs you think makes
00:24:01.620 money off of us being unhealthy 100 what was the whole last three years and it just makes money by
00:24:07.380 selling medicine to everyone not just big people to everyone that's their business yeah but when 60
00:24:12.100 percent of the population is overweight there's a lot of medicine you can sell well then there'd
00:24:16.660 always be a problem remember it's the food that we're eating the food that's out that the chemicals
00:24:20.820 that are in the food the air that whatever the these lines that we see in the air the
00:24:26.180 the foil that we eat from the plastic cup that we drink from that's true but at the end of the day
00:24:30.740 there's always somebody that's accomplished it even with all of those factors and yeah that's why
00:24:36.260 we always encourage people to lose weight and and yeah we we don't say no don't lose weight but like
00:24:43.380 i said celebrate big people but also be like nah that's unhealthy yeah i feel like that's the same
00:24:48.660 point that we've just we've been repeating the same point is that like these two things can exist at the
00:24:52.340 same time you know like we can exist and be happy with ourselves and live our lives and we can also want
00:24:57.700 to be healthier especially what i've done is i've incorporated being active in my life that's what
00:25:03.940 is that's what i see that's my exercise actually traveling doing things going through new experiences
00:25:11.220 if i have to climb i climb if i have to swim i swim that's my way of healthy living living life i'm just
00:25:17.860 saying that a lot of people say that oh um there's struggle and struggles and i struggle when there are
00:25:24.180 people out here that have the tools to give you what you need to lose weight but bear in mind the
00:25:29.140 first people they run to is they don't they run to either doctors or they run to social media
00:25:33.700 a lot of people who are qualified to give you the exact information that you need to help you get to
00:25:41.380 where you need to be they give you the numbers that you need to hear to give you now the motivation and
00:25:48.500 concern to get you to where you need to be and there are people out there that's qualified to do these
00:25:53.540 things instead of seeking instead of seeking information from the wrong people we need to
00:25:58.980 find the right people to give you that support there are people out there to give you that a lot of
00:26:04.580 big people have that want to dismay that can't and that suffer they have mobility issues or their ankle
00:26:11.380 or something it's too late i know someone no there is no no no no but they have to eat they have to do a
00:26:18.500 lot like it's a lot of effort i know someone with no legs that's jacked yeah they have i swear to god
00:26:24.420 this dude's in better shape than me yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm like once i saw that i'm like
00:26:31.220 nobody has no legs they need to use the upper body they don't have legs they need to use their literally
00:26:37.700 their whole body or they can't move so they have no option so if they're if you have ankle issues
00:26:44.500 okay three personal trainers ankle issues what would you do how would you how would you get them
00:26:49.940 weight to lose weight and even our doctor will tell you to lose weight i would tell them to go on a
00:26:54.820 bike yeah get on though get on a mobility bike cross train or something easy on you know but they can't
00:26:58.900 no but they can't they can't get up one cycling no but there's many no but they can't get up one
00:27:05.540 step it's great they can't get up a step or if their floor's not leveled it can affect you just
00:27:11.220 gave you an example of someone in a wheelchair getting jacked a kind of wheelchair has to take
00:27:15.460 an elevator up the stairs it doesn't even have to be exercised does it yeah that's what i was just
00:27:18.820 going to say putting in their mouth is diet yes if you have anger problem doesn't even have anything
00:27:22.900 to do with physical especially if it's from a weed problem it's just diet you have to diet though to lose
00:27:27.700 be there are there are means and ways alex you i think i remember you saying that you're an ms
00:27:32.100 warrior yeah like there are circumstances that can be overcome really difficult ones that are far
00:27:38.660 more profound i would say than like me personally just like getting fat because of poor habits it's
00:27:45.460 not enough for me to just be in bed and saying oh i've had a hard life but what about when like what
00:27:49.940 about when the problems affect other people like health problems like when you can't do things with
00:27:55.220 your kids yeah 100 when you when your family has to take care of you because you're sick but people
00:28:00.660 don't see that far you know it's sad the city comfort now but you don't see that far i don't think
00:28:06.580 anybody is advocating for that though i think that's very sad yeah it's sad but how do you stop from
00:28:11.220 getting there do you lean into body positivity or do you go the other way and thank you very much it
00:28:15.380 depends whatever benefits you as a person and but see that that's the problem right there it's about
00:28:21.620 that's what benefits me and that's the problem with body positivity it's about me me me me it's
00:28:27.220 about the way i feel it's not just me wait it's about what i want to do it's about i don't care
00:28:32.020 what i look like to the beach to everyone else i want to feel good like it's all about me and nobody
00:28:38.020 else yeah but i meant in that context was it's what you respond to so if you as a person respond to the
00:28:43.700 body positivity moment that makes you for me personally feeling good about myself is the thing that makes me
00:28:47.940 want to lose weight when i like myself i treat myself better i eat better i'm more likely to
00:28:52.260 have get on better with my friends but i just think if that was true i think if that was true you
00:28:56.660 wouldn't be overweight yeah like like i know you've lost 10 pounds but you know 10 pounds i haven't
00:29:01.700 always felt like that you know and you can feel a certain way but the results speak for themselves
00:29:06.980 but i didn't like myself when i was skinny i didn't like it it's a it's not about like i love
00:29:12.740 myself i love myself i love myself it's what you respond to in terms of if if positivity is
00:29:17.700 what motivates you great i got to a point where i was like okay i need to think positively about
00:29:21.540 this i need to help myself i'm saying let's look at i'm saying let's look at results but let's look
00:29:26.580 at let's look at the results of body positivity and we see and we see the the women that lead it get
00:29:32.660 worse and worse every year but i would argue that the people that you're giving as an example as leading
00:29:38.420 it i don't agree with what they do i don't agree with what tess holiday does i don't agree
00:29:41.860 um but for me personally i respond better to positive influence to positive if i had a
00:29:46.420 personal trainer that was like you fat bitch lose weight i wouldn't go back if i had a personal
00:29:50.580 trainer was like you're doing so great this is fantastic you've lost two pounds like i'd go
00:29:54.260 back you know and it depends what you respond to and i think like and i think if i see that as a result
00:29:59.860 like if i saw those results for you like i might think more of it but it's just tough because you're
00:30:05.380 saying body positivity is such a good thing and you're a plus size model but your results are you're still
00:30:10.020 overweight i mean i'm in the process of that but i haven't always been in favor of body positivity
00:30:15.780 point blank i would say i was more about body neutrality which is basically just not caring
00:30:22.020 and just doing whatever and that was how i thought for a long time right but body neutrality is selfish
00:30:26.900 because everybody else has to deal with your poor decisions even if you're just neutral like liking the
00:30:32.500 way you look and say i'm going to accept myself as is everybody else has to deal with your decisions
00:30:37.380 because either you're going to have health issues and the taxpayers have to deal with it
00:30:41.380 the doctors have to deal with it your family has to take care of you and it's not fair to everyone
00:30:46.980 else around you even on planes like it's not fair to the people next to you who didn't make that
00:30:52.020 decision and now you know you're invading their space again though i can't speak for those people
00:30:56.660 because that's not my issue i've never not fit in a plane seat i've never had a health issue because
00:31:00.500 of my weight specifically i've never been in that situation i'm talking about the movement in
00:31:04.580 general yeah but i'm like i'm saying like being content in general is selfish because everybody
00:31:10.260 else has to deal with the issues but being content with yourself doesn't mean that you shouldn't want
00:31:14.340 to be better it just means that you shouldn't hate yourself what else what else is what else is content
00:31:18.900 content as happy as is i think it just means that you shouldn't hate yourself if i'm if i'm content
00:31:24.340 with my money i'm not going to make more money if i'm discontent with my money then i'm going to make
00:31:28.260 i think that's a great example i'm very content with the amount of money i make would i like to
00:31:32.180 still make more fantastic yeah i would but you're not going to take steps to make more money if you're
00:31:36.900 content with the amount of money in general we're getting into semantics though aren't we if we're
00:31:41.140 using the word content like i agree with you know like being content means that you are you're stationary
00:31:46.900 you're happy no more progress but i think the point here is that you can enjoy your day you can go to
00:31:53.140 the beach with your friends if you want to and actually enjoy a day on the beach with your friends
00:31:57.940 without the fact that you are maybe not your healthiest weight or not your best shape and
00:32:03.300 allowing that to take your day even even at the beach like it's going to taint your day whether
00:32:07.620 anyone says anything to you or not it's going to taint your day you're not going to be able to do the
00:32:11.300 same things your in shape friends are going to do i there's no there's no way you guys are going to
00:32:16.980 have the same mobility as someone as the as the trainers here if you guys go surfing if you go tubing
00:32:22.740 like you're not going to be able to do the same thing so while while while it might not affect you
00:32:29.940 now it might be you're young maybe it'll affect you later but at some point life is going to hit you
00:32:35.700 and that's why i promote eating healthy and actually trying your best to actually i'm not
00:32:41.220 i'm not talking about you i'm talking about the movement yeah i think that's the thing it's different
00:32:45.220 is do people different it's not different people see different narratives it depends what you're reading
00:32:51.140 what you're seeing and with a lot of things there's a lot of confusion it's like people just want to
00:32:56.820 confuse you and they want people to have discussions like this and they want people to fight but really
00:33:01.780 if you speak to real people you get real opinions that's how it is i don't think it's i think it's
00:33:06.580 simple i think it's if you're fat you're unhealthy if you're not fat you're healthy it should be as
00:33:12.500 simple as that really they shouldn't be like oh it's confusing you know there's going to be people
00:33:17.300 like i said there's a small amount small percentage of people that are you know probably do have
00:33:21.860 conditions and and whatnot but at the end of the day if you're fat you can acknowledge that you're
00:33:26.420 unhealthy and you've all agreed that you want to better yourself and and start eating healthier
00:33:32.020 whether it's training as well so i mean yeah you can keep trying to individualize it but at the end of
00:33:37.220 the day it's it's very it's night and day and it's also you need to see where a lot of people are
00:33:42.660 obese it's the poor areas if you look at obesity rates it's the poor areas and what are what are
00:33:48.900 they in poor areas not great shops for food it's so cheap stuff it's not good for you are you saying
00:33:55.620 the obesity rates are higher in in like third world countries not third world countries but just
00:34:02.020 generally like for example but i'm saying like that that's i'm just thinking if your premise is true
00:34:08.420 if we're going to say it's about wealth then i would imagine we would see in poorer countries they
00:34:13.620 would be fatter than in richer countries okay for example in england um there's iceland's um it's
00:34:20.660 pound it's like pounder meal you can get a pound ready meal you can get um nuggets and chips i need you
00:34:28.260 to answer my initial question though so so in third world countries they're fatter than in the western
00:34:34.100 countries in in there are places there's fiji no fiji in general i know homeless people with abs
00:34:42.420 there are places in the world there where it is poor and there and they're big
00:34:49.060 people in poorer countries oh not in average no it's in the uk the western side correct so i'm saying
00:34:54.260 i don't think it's a wealth thing okay yeah i think it's a poor like i mean we're the fattest in america
00:34:59.140 you know yeah but then within america what groups of people just to get deeper on that point i don't
00:35:05.300 know if i really have an opinion or a strong one on this but within america or even if we take london
00:35:10.900 are we saying then that the poorer people within those places are more likely to be unhealthy obese
00:35:16.420 than the richer people i think it's it's uh easier for them to get obese why yeah if you're living on
00:35:22.980 like a minimum wage income and you gotta get fast food all the time yeah that's probably the case in
00:35:27.780 america but there's a large portion of the population in america according 30 according to
00:35:33.860 the cdc 38 states plus puerto rico have obesity rates above 30 percent the 10 states and territories
00:35:40.580 with the lowest obesity rates are district of columbia hawaii colorado massachusetts california
00:35:47.140 florida new jersey washington vermont and new york um sounds like a choice then yeah we have to overlay
00:35:52.980 that with um like i don't know income per household colorado's low obesity rate can be attributed to
00:36:00.260 culture and lifestyle many residents enjoy outdoor activities such as hiking as well as conscious of
00:36:07.300 eating whole nutrient dense foods for their own well-being this is surprising to me west virginia is
00:36:13.860 the most obese state with an obesity rate of 40 percent west virginia a lot of them are poor areas
00:36:20.820 also has uh type 2 diabetes diabetes at 15.7 wow 15.7 percent of west virginia has type 2 diabetes
00:36:32.500 can i ask when would be the point of okay i've got to make a change
00:36:36.740 um when you have a health problem and when like for example um i when i thought that i'm pre-diabetic
00:36:45.460 i instantly started literally i consciously was like no i'm not gonna eat no crisps i'm not gonna eat
00:36:53.060 no chocolate no i'm gonna get diabetes and i'm gonna mess my life up so i i reversed it and i started
00:36:59.860 drinking more water so that anything bad flushes out um started having vinegar and water like just
00:37:07.060 doing random things when you get told uh if you keep going this way you might die that's when you're
00:37:11.940 gonna make it sweet i just listened to you and i feel and i felt moved i think that's when i made when
00:37:16.900 that's when i took it seriously when i was told by the doctor and that's a part of me being active
00:37:22.420 basically because i don't want to have high blood pressure i don't want to have diabetes so it's because
00:37:27.540 i can't see him at the back i feel like i can't i don't i know i was thinking i wish we sat in there
00:37:32.100 i can't see him if that was promoted on social media like this you would be a happier place
00:37:37.780 for me it was when i couldn't go down a slide i was at like a amusement thing and i couldn't go down
00:37:43.300 a slide that my friends went down and that was really embarrassing for me like i was like oh uh like
00:37:49.860 i am not the average person anymore and that was a moment at which i was like oh i want to be able to
00:37:55.380 do these things and so and i made a video because i i knew that that would hold me accountable on my
00:38:00.100 social media well i also think that it's a negative consequence which kind of it kind of you might not
00:38:05.140 call it bullying but that's that's a negative consequence and it seemed to have worked because
00:38:08.980 now you're trying to lose weight it's not from a person though and it doesn't mean i don't like
00:38:12.820 myself i just i didn't say i didn't say don't yeah it's a wake-up call and that's why i was saying
00:38:18.580 sometimes bullying is a wake-up call i don't think bullying that amusement that amusement park i know
00:38:23.300 was bullying saying you can't it was a safety thing that's a different thing i'm gonna read
00:38:28.820 super chats for uh one second um okay mr b no they're not they're not bad well okay mr b96 um damn
00:38:39.380 another uh term to add body neutrality smh haka police redheads man found cutie slapping but doesn't
00:38:48.900 respect her uh hey you most obese people are addicts dopamine is the real driver of addiction
00:38:55.780 food addiction is the only uh one where you still have to use your drug to survive difficult to
00:39:03.060 overcome but it can be done find healthy dopamine triggers a scout in a bradley i find health sexy not
00:39:11.460 too skinny not too big a crackhead is not sexy but lizzie isn't lizzo isn't either um hakata police
00:39:18.740 uh fats will tap dance around accountability all night mr b they're not acting like ladies i'm not
00:39:28.180 taking accountability uh the same way uni doesn't guarantee a job personal trainers don't guarantee
00:39:34.260 losing weight uh dr david baker in the spirit of the body positivity movement i'd like to announce the
00:39:40.100 start of the chain smoking positivity movement the drinking bleach positivity movement and the put a
00:39:46.100 shotgun in your mouth with your toe on the trigger positivity movement i love the body positivity
00:39:52.820 movement almost as much as i love chain smoke the chain smoking body pot the chain smoking positivity
00:39:58.980 movement the drinking bleach positivity movement and the shotgun in mouth toe on trigger positivity movement
00:40:07.220 um hakata police welcome to copecast um ricky a donation just get just to give a shout out to pia
00:40:15.780 family a doug mpa everything yeah everything you get paid for um everything you get paid for should
00:40:24.260 require sacrifice plus size models don't have to sacrifice anything that's the problem i have to go to
00:40:30.340 work every day i don't want to but i do it hashtag lazy whales doug mpa we i'm sorry we we harpoon whales
00:40:39.220 over here pia a whale attacked pearl and we cannot let that happen again it was attack it was used i saw it
00:40:45.140 used to be that big girls had to have a good attitude to counter their weight but those days are
00:40:49.860 gone doug mpa um body positivity really became a movement after the war the war in iraq started
00:40:57.060 soldiers were coming back missing limbs it was supposed to be made for a woman or a man to wear a biking
00:41:05.460 miss it to wear a biking missing an arm or a leg whales hijacked the movement selfish whales
00:41:11.620 um what do you think about this super chat everything you get should everything that you
00:41:18.420 pay get paid for should require sacrifice plus size models don't have to sacrifice anything that's the
00:41:23.860 problem i have to go to work every day and i don't want to do it but i do it i agree with that i think it's
00:41:30.340 if what are you sacrificing for your plus size model is i could be a plus size model starting tomorrow i'll
00:41:36.100 just start putting on weight get pudgy get a bit bigger actually i might not be a good looking but
00:41:42.660 but i mean i could make steps towards becoming a plus size model maybe i guess a bit of cosmetic
00:41:47.060 surgery but just get fat and then maybe sign up to some promo may go so you just need to just stick
00:41:53.460 to like i i feel actually hot i feel hot could anyone could anyone be a plus and i know yeah maybe if i
00:41:59.140 lost some weight i'll even be hot but i feel happy with the way i look but if you put on weight because
00:42:04.020 people are so used to looking at you you might not be happy with yourself because you might be like
00:42:08.180 oh my god and then you need to learn to love you that's not the question is it do plus size models
00:42:13.220 sacrifice anything so i would respond to that comment by saying that person sounds more like they have a
00:42:17.300 problem with capitalism than anything else because why are you doing a job you don't enjoy i really love
00:42:21.700 my job i make content all day i do brand deals i stream on twitch i have a great time with my life
00:42:27.620 and i enjoy my modeling um none of that feels like a sacrifice to me none of my jobs have ever felt
00:42:32.340 before that i worked in sales again i really enjoyed that i like i i never felt like my life was a
00:42:37.300 chore um and it sounds more like you have an issue with that and no i don't think anyone could be a
00:42:41.620 plus size model i need you you need a specific look regardless and including being plus size to be a
00:42:47.300 plus size model you still need to have an hourglass shape i disagree you need to you can't be an apple
00:42:51.780 it doesn't work in the content creator in the past wait wait hold on he started i'll let you go i would say
00:42:57.780 every job has a form of sacrifice so that person that's in the super chat in works nine to five
00:43:03.140 doesn't want to go has to go pearl being a content creator puts in hours probably doesn't have can
00:43:07.620 socialize as much misses out on that doesn't see friends a model an actual model probably has to
00:43:14.340 starve herself sometimes uh as said work rigorous hours travel a lot there's sacrifice what does they do
00:43:21.780 are insane workouts are crazy yeah what does a plus size model sacrifice why do they need why do you
00:43:27.300 need people to be unhappy to earn their money no i would say the general is that in in work when you
00:43:32.980 work you sacrifice something when you strive for something you have to sacrifice something what does
00:43:36.900 a plus size model sacrifice well i'm in a room with three pts and no one's saying that the plus size
00:43:41.380 model is sacrificing her health despite the fact that we've spent the last hour talking about health
00:43:46.020 so you think that should be a job then no you sacrifice your health for money i'm not going
00:43:50.820 to let you put a spin on that i didn't say that that should be you said they're sacrificing their
00:43:54.420 health no but they are sacrificing their health aren't they if a person we just discussed that if a
00:43:57.860 person is plus size and they're maintaining their plus size like brand their identity they're sacrificing
00:44:04.420 their health because being fat becomes a hustle no that is the diagram and i i i i guess it's not the
00:44:10.340 best way to put it a sacrifice but it's more that like in order to get money and jobs you should have to
00:44:15.780 do something hard and in getting fat is easy that's the easy way out and now we're paying people to
00:44:23.860 do the easy thing it's like if i go to an nba game and i see below average nba or basketball players it's
00:44:33.060 kind of like why are they there but yet wait wait wait wait but now we have we we go to modeling shows and
00:44:42.100 we have below average bodies being modeled when before that was like the epitome of perfection
00:44:48.740 well it's just not a skilled a particularly skilled profession it's just a model it's a model
00:44:54.180 it's a model a skilled profession i just said that it isn't a model i don't think it's particularly
00:44:59.220 skilled like if we're comparing you miss any point it's just for that company
00:45:04.180 didn't you just say being attractive as well as maintaining a workout a good diet
00:45:08.740 did none of you watch america's next top model nobody nobody coached you on how to be the best
00:45:15.060 model i don't want to share that company just looking for a market to make more money that's
00:45:18.980 all it is equality that's the company just looking for a market to make more money but you agreed you
00:45:24.340 said that uh what what pearl said getting fat is easy agree yeah so what there's no there's no sacrifice
00:45:31.140 what your health is just sacrifice i don't understand how we're not agreeing on that point
00:45:35.300 despite as many of you know i was just banned on tick tock and we are demonetized on a daily basis
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