The TRANS People Should Consider THIS
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Summary
In this episode I talk about the trans bathroom debate and how we should be better for trans people in the public bathrooms and locker rooms. I also talk about my experience transitioning to female and transitioning to male and how it affects my sexuality.
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rooms bathrooms they need their own unit their own space why why because
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i've from just watching like i've watched um basically you know the there was an episode on
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glee when the student unique went into the female's bathroom right and then as he came out well as he
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came out of the the stall um one of the cheerleaders stopped him and was like you can't use this
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bathroom you're not allowed you're a man and from that it triggered a whole situation within the
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school where people where boys were walking into girls locker rooms and girls are walking into male
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locker rooms and it just made the whole thing a confusing space for people not until the end of
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the the show i watched right and where they gave them his own key to his own cubicle and it just
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just everything went back to normal so i just feel as if they need their own space if that makes
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sense their own unit their own bathroom so they don't feel like they have to be pressured to go
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into the boys bathroom or to the girls bathroom depending on what i mean i don't like to get
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naked in front of anyone so i've never have to because luckily i guess with my schools and with
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whatever gyms and swimming pools i've been to they've always had like private cubicles but i feel
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like shared ones is more common in the u.s i think well in an athletic space even at the tournament
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this weekend they were in there okay i feel like that's uncomfortable for everyone right
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i was just like no no you're pretty you you get as an athlete you get pretty comfortable changing
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in front of women i hate it but that's just women yeah that's what i'm saying it's not trans women
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if it was trans women i'd feel like okay okay you was once a man okay i will start to think a little
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bit like are you watching me sort of thing i'm just it's uncomfortable for both like it's
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uncomfortable for trans women and for women because i can like me putting myself in a trans women's
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shoes which i i can i can try i mean i can't exactly relate but i would feel very just i would have so
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many like a million doubts and thoughts running in my head like i think having a changing room just
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dedicated to trans people would be so much better for them and for everyone else i think we should
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just private cubicles for all yeah i don't want to see anyone no no no because even at the bathroom
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like i don't i just want like i just think even when you're doing your makeup and you're just doing
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like girls stuff i don't know it's just nice to just have girls in there it's so it's not if i can
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just like it's sounding like a little bit um it's the right word like prejudice because you know if
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someone's transitioned then they've they should be able to go into the um restroom of that gender
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that they've transitioned i think it's a bit crazy because let's just say for example you have a trans
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woman or a trans man that now goes into the restroom of the gender that they was born but they've already
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started surgeries they've already started testosterone they're gonna be majorly misplaced
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and anyone that's in that restaurant with them is gonna feel super uncomfortable i mean if they've
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completed their transition or even halfway through with the transition then and no no one would know
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the difference especially if for example no you can you can tell not all the time i will say maybe
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with men to female sometimes because of for example like height hand size feet size but not every
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single man is like six foot some men are small i will say like lesbians kind of get the worst of this
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because there's a lot more like masculine lesbians than there are like trans women that i've ever met
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in the wild because i have trans friends but i i don't think i've ever met one just even even when we
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go to like locker rooms like if you if you in public you you get naked that's indecent exposure
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and so but it's like especially a lot of the trans um women like they don't end up getting the
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surgeries or trans yeah they don't end up getting the surgery so it's like i i don't want the thing
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is because they always use blair white as an example like that's always the one they'll like destiny
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always throw at us but it's like he didn't get the surgery i'm not too sure who that is but like you
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know like we we say that obviously gender and sexuality are two different things no i don't
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think so but they are though because you have you have lesbian women and gay men and they would never
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dream of transitioning they're happy as men oh sexuality happy to be gay men and you know
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there's women are happy to be gay women they've got no intentions of transitioning but if someone has
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transition because equally people transition and are still attracted sexually to the other sex if i'm
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making sense so for example you could be born female transitioning to a man and then be attracted to men
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so then you'd be a gay trans man yeah so i i don't really i don't even really care about the
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sexuality i hear you but to make my point if you're a transgender person who has transitioned
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and isn't gay in that transition i don't see how you can possibly make anyone in a restroom feel
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uncomfortable so if you're a trans man and you like women you go into a men's locker room as a
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man who likes women you're not posing any threat to any of those men in that locker room you're not
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perving on anyone and equally the same if you're a a a man born a man who then trans transitions into a
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woman and finds men sexually attractive would you you're not going to go into the locker room and
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start perving would you would you agree that the transition's mental i think it has to start off
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mental 100 it has to start as a but you would agree you can't actually be the other gender no you can
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get surgeries to make you to make you look like it but you you wouldn't actually like no yes you can
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be you can't change your dna you can't change you can't change your dna you can't change your dna no you
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can't change your dna you can't like actually change your gender no well you can change your
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body you can change a shell i mean i'm a spiritual the way it looks right yeah i mean i'm a spiritual
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person so for me this body right here is just my shell now if some if an accident happened to me
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god forbid and i was paralyzed that doesn't make me less of anything because i can't use my body our
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body is just our body who we are inside right so so it's mental though it's not physical it's mental
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and emotional and then it can and then if it's strong enough you will change the physical to
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match the mental but you can't like you can't you know like a man like a trans man can't get a woman
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pregnant and vice versa like so so you can't that's dna like you said but that's how many
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cis men are there that can't get a woman pregnant how many cis women are there that can't
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i don't i don't think it's i just wouldn't say i would say it's a false equivalency no because
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they're still they're still built the way they're built right like they still were born with those
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parts there's a woman who can't get pregnant naturally like a cis woman who can't get pregnant
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isn't less of a woman because you can't get pregnant exactly the same way a man is not less of a man
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because he can't impregnate exactly right but they're but they're still a woman because they're
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born a woman yes yes right yeah and so my point my point is it's mental it's not physical it starts off
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mental and even even i've seen i've seen pictures of like on twitter i did not want to it was just
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you ever been on twitter and like of like the surgeries it doesn't look the same well the thing
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is yeah it doesn't the thing is yeah like it's not going to be able to look the same do you understand
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like this it's just how it goes you know if a white person was to want to get a skin a tan they're not
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going to look black you know what i mean like there's certain things if a black person wants to
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get light lighter and they start bleaching you can tell you know they're getting better with it
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too you just have to let people be who they are like all of this judgment and uh yeah but you don't
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look you don't let people live their truth and feel comfortable in the body and i don't care i don't
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care if you live your truth like but like and do like do what you want to your body but
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to me it's just like i think that women have the right to our own spaces like i think we have the
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right in their hair white people no i don't think the race thing really is an equivalent but i i think
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like women have the right to our own spaces i agree i agree i agree with i fully agree with
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what you're saying and i understand you know the difficulties with women who are playing sports with
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trans men but i think that the difficulties that you women sis well even in bathrooms too i would say
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the same thing because at the at the end of the day you know they they still be honest i've gone into
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men's bathrooms quite a lot because they have short queues so i don't i don't know that's like
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that's like a female privilege isn't it because the other way around i hate them so much i think
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society has really started to over sexualize people like i didn't i don't know about you
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but when i go to the toilet like i literally go in there to go to the toilet that's it i go in the
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toilet i come out i wash my hands and i walk out trying as hard as i can unless the trans woman is
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doing something legitimately weird like staring or they have like a hard on or something bad they
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probably are just changing and it's just awkward for everyone involved but i i don't know like i
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just i'm awkward around everyone i wanted to add something to the conversation so i have a daughter
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i think you guys are focusing too much on the people that are adults no not even that i think you
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guys are focusing too much on the people that like the people that are going through this and their
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feelings what you're failing to realize is that we're talking about the policies so the policies
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make it possible for a man to transition into the woman and go into a female bathroom so if the
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policies make that possible you're forgetting that we have people that are criminals we have
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people that are off there that are crazy that will take advantage of those kind of policies
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my point is if those policies exist people that can take advantage of those policies will take
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advantage there's actually nothing to stop anyone from going into any bathroom you know yes but we
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don't like stand outside of the bathroom there's nothing to stop anyone there's nothing to stop
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anyone but the mere fact that you you're you're you're you're basically disregarding social can gay
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men not allow are gay men not allowed to use men's bathroom in case them men that are not gay are
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worried that the gay men entering are going to curve on them are lesbians not allowed to use women's bathroom
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because they're scared i think that's a false equivalent okay so what's the reason why the reason why i say
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this is because when you argue from the men's side men don't care because the reality of a man's world
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is we have to defend ourselves in whatever situation anyways right so the protection is actually for
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the women i don't care if a woman comes into my bathroom because i know she can't do like there's
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very little she can do right right so it's actually unless she's got a weapon exactly right but it's
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actually more for the women so my point is if i have a daughter i don't want a situation where
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policies allow someone to be able to go into the bathroom to perv on her but can i ask a question
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wouldn't it be this is what i was saying before about sexuality if a trans woman okay has gone
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into a woman's bathroom and she is heterosexual now and she loves men is that not less pervy
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than a gay woman i agree going into the i agree but the problem is the women would the women start
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putting labels on their head about they don't they just have to just just do your thing just do your
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thing yeah and if someone if you feel like someone's staring at you but his point is we we won't know
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but we can see with gender you can't know gender you can't know sexuality you don't know but we're not
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talking about sexuality we're talking about gender but also regardless like if a predator wants to
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predate a predator will predate it's that simple like if someone has that in their mind and that's what they
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want to do they will and they will have done that for years and years but but you're making it easier
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policy not necessarily and it's like it just makes me uncomfortable like i don't want to change i don't
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want to go to the bathroom and like in in front of guys and and you can you know you can dress like
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a woman act like a woman it doesn't make you a woman well it does though that's the thing if they
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don't have a penis anymore do you know what i mean then i mean they don't have but they don't have
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ovaries and even when you were talking earlier about what some women don't have ovaries sorry to cut you
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i mean it's a very very small percentage um and and they were still like they're supposed to have
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ovaries it's very different than chopping your off