JustPearlyThings - June 26, 2023


The TRANS People Should Consider THIS

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In this episode I talk about the trans bathroom debate and how we should be better for trans people in the public bathrooms and locker rooms. I also talk about my experience transitioning to female and transitioning to male and how it affects my sexuality.

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00:00:00.000 rooms bathrooms they need their own unit their own space why why because
00:00:07.760 i've from just watching like i've watched um basically you know the there was an episode on
00:00:14.640 glee when the student unique went into the female's bathroom right and then as he came out well as he
00:00:23.840 came out of the the stall um one of the cheerleaders stopped him and was like you can't use this
00:00:29.040 bathroom you're not allowed you're a man and from that it triggered a whole situation within the
00:00:37.520 school where people where boys were walking into girls locker rooms and girls are walking into male
00:00:43.200 locker rooms and it just made the whole thing a confusing space for people not until the end of
00:00:49.120 the the show i watched right and where they gave them his own key to his own cubicle and it just
00:00:56.320 just everything went back to normal so i just feel as if they need their own space if that makes
00:01:01.760 sense their own unit their own bathroom so they don't feel like they have to be pressured to go
00:01:07.520 into the boys bathroom or to the girls bathroom depending on what i mean i don't like to get
00:01:11.200 naked in front of anyone so i've never have to because luckily i guess with my schools and with
00:01:16.560 whatever gyms and swimming pools i've been to they've always had like private cubicles but i feel
00:01:20.960 like shared ones is more common in the u.s i think well in an athletic space even at the tournament
00:01:25.840 this weekend they were in there okay i feel like that's uncomfortable for everyone right
00:01:31.120 i was just like no no you're pretty you you get as an athlete you get pretty comfortable changing
00:01:36.000 in front of women i hate it but that's just women yeah that's what i'm saying it's not trans women 0.96
00:01:41.040 if it was trans women i'd feel like okay okay you was once a man okay i will start to think a little 1.00
00:01:48.320 bit like are you watching me sort of thing i'm just it's uncomfortable for both like it's
00:01:55.200 uncomfortable for trans women and for women because i can like me putting myself in a trans women's
00:02:01.760 shoes which i i can i can try i mean i can't exactly relate but i would feel very just i would have so
00:02:10.720 many like a million doubts and thoughts running in my head like i think having a changing room just
00:02:15.920 dedicated to trans people would be so much better for them and for everyone else i think we should
00:02:22.080 just private cubicles for all yeah i don't want to see anyone no no no because even at the bathroom
00:02:28.480 like i don't i just want like i just think even when you're doing your makeup and you're just doing
00:02:32.640 like girls stuff i don't know it's just nice to just have girls in there it's so it's not if i can
00:02:37.840 just like it's sounding like a little bit um it's the right word like prejudice because you know if
00:02:44.640 someone's transitioned then they've they should be able to go into the um restroom of that gender 1.00
00:02:52.960 that they've transitioned i think it's a bit crazy because let's just say for example you have a trans 1.00
00:02:59.360 woman or a trans man that now goes into the restroom of the gender that they was born but they've already 0.96
00:03:06.240 started surgeries they've already started testosterone they're gonna be majorly misplaced
00:03:12.320 and anyone that's in that restaurant with them is gonna feel super uncomfortable i mean if they've
00:03:17.680 completed their transition or even halfway through with the transition then and no no one would know
00:03:24.000 the difference especially if for example no you can you can tell not all the time i will say maybe
00:03:30.160 with men to female sometimes because of for example like height hand size feet size but not every
00:03:37.680 single man is like six foot some men are small i will say like lesbians kind of get the worst of this 1.00
00:03:43.760 because there's a lot more like masculine lesbians than there are like trans women that i've ever met 0.95
00:03:48.240 in the wild because i have trans friends but i i don't think i've ever met one just even even when we
00:03:53.600 go to like locker rooms like if you if you in public you you get naked that's indecent exposure 0.52
00:04:00.160 and so but it's like especially a lot of the trans um women like they don't end up getting the 1.00
00:04:05.760 surgeries or trans yeah they don't end up getting the surgery so it's like i i don't want the thing 1.00
00:04:12.160 is because they always use blair white as an example like that's always the one they'll like destiny 1.00
00:04:16.080 always throw at us but it's like he didn't get the surgery i'm not too sure who that is but like you
00:04:21.520 know like we we say that obviously gender and sexuality are two different things no i don't
00:04:26.480 think so but they are though because you have you have lesbian women and gay men and they would never 0.98
00:04:33.280 dream of transitioning they're happy as men oh sexuality happy to be gay men and you know 0.51
00:04:39.440 there's women are happy to be gay women they've got no intentions of transitioning but if someone has
00:04:45.840 transition because equally people transition and are still attracted sexually to the other sex if i'm
00:04:55.040 making sense so for example you could be born female transitioning to a man and then be attracted to men
00:05:02.640 so then you'd be a gay trans man yeah so i i don't really i don't even really care about the
00:05:08.160 sexuality i hear you but to make my point if you're a transgender person who has transitioned 0.97
00:05:15.680 and isn't gay in that transition i don't see how you can possibly make anyone in a restroom feel
00:05:21.760 uncomfortable so if you're a trans man and you like women you go into a men's locker room as a 0.80
00:05:28.080 man who likes women you're not posing any threat to any of those men in that locker room you're not
00:05:33.440 perving on anyone and equally the same if you're a a a man born a man who then trans transitions into a 0.85
00:05:41.520 woman and finds men sexually attractive would you you're not going to go into the locker room and
00:05:46.160 start perving would you would you agree that the transition's mental i think it has to start off
00:05:52.080 mental 100 it has to start as a but you would agree you can't actually be the other gender no you can
00:05:57.520 get surgeries to make you to make you look like it but you you wouldn't actually like no yes you can
00:06:02.480 be you can't change your dna you can't change you can't change your dna you can't change your dna no you
00:06:07.840 can't change your dna you can't like actually change your gender no well you can change your 0.99
00:06:12.640 body you can change a shell i mean i'm a spiritual the way it looks right yeah i mean i'm a spiritual
00:06:17.680 person so for me this body right here is just my shell now if some if an accident happened to me
00:06:23.280 god forbid and i was paralyzed that doesn't make me less of anything because i can't use my body our
00:06:29.040 body is just our body who we are inside right so so it's mental though it's not physical it's mental
00:06:34.560 and emotional and then it can and then if it's strong enough you will change the physical to
00:06:39.280 match the mental but you can't like you can't you know like a man like a trans man can't get a woman 0.94
00:06:45.280 pregnant and vice versa like so so you can't that's dna like you said but that's how many 1.00
00:06:49.280 cis men are there that can't get a woman pregnant how many cis women are there that can't 0.93
00:06:53.120 i don't i don't think it's i just wouldn't say i would say it's a false equivalency no because
00:06:57.360 they're still they're still built the way they're built right like they still were born with those
00:07:04.800 parts there's a woman who can't get pregnant naturally like a cis woman who can't get pregnant 0.97
00:07:09.440 isn't less of a woman because you can't get pregnant exactly the same way a man is not less of a man
00:07:13.680 because he can't impregnate exactly right but they're but they're still a woman because they're 0.99
00:07:17.360 born a woman yes yes right yeah and so my point my point is it's mental it's not physical it starts off
00:07:22.960 mental and even even i've seen i've seen pictures of like on twitter i did not want to it was just
00:07:28.880 you ever been on twitter and like of like the surgeries it doesn't look the same well the thing
00:07:34.240 is yeah it doesn't the thing is yeah like it's not going to be able to look the same do you understand
00:07:40.000 like this it's just how it goes you know if a white person was to want to get a skin a tan they're not
00:07:45.600 going to look black you know what i mean like there's certain things if a black person wants to 0.58
00:07:49.520 get light lighter and they start bleaching you can tell you know they're getting better with it
00:07:53.600 too you just have to let people be who they are like all of this judgment and uh yeah but you don't
00:07:58.560 look you don't let people live their truth and feel comfortable in the body and i don't care i don't
00:08:02.880 care if you live your truth like but like and do like do what you want to your body but
00:08:07.440 to me it's just like i think that women have the right to our own spaces like i think we have the 1.00
00:08:12.240 right in their hair white people no i don't think the race thing really is an equivalent but i i think
00:08:18.320 like women have the right to our own spaces i agree i agree i agree with i fully agree with
00:08:24.960 what you're saying and i understand you know the difficulties with women who are playing sports with 0.97
00:08:29.520 trans men but i think that the difficulties that you women sis well even in bathrooms too i would say
00:08:35.200 the same thing because at the at the end of the day you know they they still be honest i've gone into
00:08:39.840 men's bathrooms quite a lot because they have short queues so i don't i don't know that's like
00:08:44.640 that's like a female privilege isn't it because the other way around i hate them so much i think 1.00
00:08:51.280 society has really started to over sexualize people like i didn't i don't know about you
00:08:55.600 but when i go to the toilet like i literally go in there to go to the toilet that's it i go in the
00:08:59.440 toilet i come out i wash my hands and i walk out trying as hard as i can unless the trans woman is 1.00
00:09:04.960 doing something legitimately weird like staring or they have like a hard on or something bad they
00:09:10.960 probably are just changing and it's just awkward for everyone involved but i i don't know like i
00:09:16.080 just i'm awkward around everyone i wanted to add something to the conversation so i have a daughter
00:09:21.280 i think you guys are focusing too much on the people that are adults no not even that i think you
00:09:28.880 guys are focusing too much on the people that like the people that are going through this and their
00:09:32.080 feelings what you're failing to realize is that we're talking about the policies so the policies
00:09:37.040 make it possible for a man to transition into the woman and go into a female bathroom so if the 1.00
00:09:43.120 policies make that possible you're forgetting that we have people that are criminals we have
00:09:47.280 people that are off there that are crazy that will take advantage of those kind of policies
00:09:58.240 my point is if those policies exist people that can take advantage of those policies will take
00:10:05.680 advantage there's actually nothing to stop anyone from going into any bathroom you know yes but we
00:10:10.160 don't like stand outside of the bathroom there's nothing to stop anyone there's nothing to stop 0.75
00:10:14.480 anyone but the mere fact that you you're you're you're you're basically disregarding social can gay 0.97
00:10:19.920 men not allow are gay men not allowed to use men's bathroom in case them men that are not gay are 0.97
00:10:24.800 worried that the gay men entering are going to curve on them are lesbians not allowed to use women's bathroom 0.99
00:10:29.680 because they're scared i think that's a false equivalent okay so what's the reason why the reason why i say 0.92
00:10:33.760 this is because when you argue from the men's side men don't care because the reality of a man's world
00:10:39.200 is we have to defend ourselves in whatever situation anyways right so the protection is actually for
00:10:43.680 the women i don't care if a woman comes into my bathroom because i know she can't do like there's 1.00
00:10:48.000 very little she can do right right so it's actually unless she's got a weapon exactly right but it's
00:10:52.960 actually more for the women so my point is if i have a daughter i don't want a situation where
00:10:58.160 policies allow someone to be able to go into the bathroom to perv on her but can i ask a question 1.00
00:11:06.000 wouldn't it be this is what i was saying before about sexuality if a trans woman okay has gone 1.00
00:11:11.600 into a woman's bathroom and she is heterosexual now and she loves men is that not less pervy 1.00
00:11:20.560 than a gay woman i agree going into the i agree but the problem is the women would the women start
00:11:25.920 putting labels on their head about they don't they just have to just just do your thing just do your
00:11:30.720 thing yeah and if someone if you feel like someone's staring at you but his point is we we won't know
00:11:35.520 but we can see with gender you can't know gender you can't know sexuality you don't know but we're not
00:11:40.640 talking about sexuality we're talking about gender but also regardless like if a predator wants to
00:11:45.360 predate a predator will predate it's that simple like if someone has that in their mind and that's what they
00:11:49.680 want to do they will and they will have done that for years and years but but you're making it easier
00:11:54.320 policy not necessarily and it's like it just makes me uncomfortable like i don't want to change i don't
00:11:59.360 want to go to the bathroom and like in in front of guys and and you can you know you can dress like
00:12:04.400 a woman act like a woman it doesn't make you a woman well it does though that's the thing if they 1.00
00:12:09.280 don't have a penis anymore do you know what i mean then i mean they don't have but they don't have 0.99
00:12:14.560 ovaries and even when you were talking earlier about what some women don't have ovaries sorry to cut you 1.00
00:12:18.800 i mean it's a very very small percentage um and and they were still like they're supposed to have
00:12:24.320 ovaries it's very different than chopping your off