Things Got HEATED When Obese Woman Said This...
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In this episode, we discuss whether plus size models are overqualified for the job of being a top model and whether or not it's a non-issue. We also discuss why it's such a non issue and the benefits of plus size clothing.
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a skilled a particularly skilled profession it's just a model it's a model it's a model
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a skilled profession i just said that it isn't a model i don't think it's particularly skilled
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like if we're comparing you have to be one of the top one percent of attractive you miss any
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point it's just for that company as well as maintaining a workout a good diet did none of
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you watch america's next top model nobody tyra banks nobody coached you on how to be the best
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model that's all it is equality that's the company just looking for a market to make more money but
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you agreed you said that uh what what pearl said getting fat is easy agree yeah so what there's no
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there's no sacrifice but your health is just sacrifice i don't understand how we're not
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agreeing on that point despite that's negative so that is so your health is a sacrifice yeah
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yeah you're shortening yeah you're you're you're willingly shortening your life for money
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so it's that but you that's a sacrifice does it does a nine to five do that it's
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all my stuff i've had they've been active can i just let you know i've taught children swimming
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i was a dance teacher um like everything i've done even me doing my entertainment work is active full of
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activities and that's how i live my life to be active because i know when i go to gym and when
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i kind of push myself i fall apart and i go backwards because then i'm in pain for months
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and i'm in bed that's what starts happening right but like the whole point is do plus size models and
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maybe not sacrifice is it hard to become a plus size model and before and before wait wait wait wait
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and before like i don't know if you've ever seen like the what i eat in a day from a victoria's
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secret model before they were plus size like their workouts it's hard it's it was it required a lot
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of sacrifice but it required a lot of sacrifice but what those damn what those victoria's secrets
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girls have done to a lot of women is damage them as well because they tried being super fit like that
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although they had no potential some of them actually started taking drugs to look it's less than 3
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of the population is underweight or it's like five percent no but i think a lot of people's obesity
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is also related to taking a lot of this rubbish weight loss um tablets and being sold be skinny
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be this be that and they have it and they get all these wrong because a lot of the obesity is from
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remember where how the 90s was how the noughties was you need to actually think about how the decades
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i think that's a victim mentality like i just think i don't even think it's a big cause it's
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fact that a lot of rubbish was put in food a lot of rubbish was put in food but at the end of the day
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people are fat because of their choices that's it point blank period it's not because of the food it's
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not because of the water because there's ways around all of this and with with the internet with
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the internet there's no reason you can educate yourself what you're saying pal though like your initial
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point i just think it's such a non-issue because one there just aren't that many plus size models
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there are a few like in general i find people a lot of the comments i get are like oh my gosh thank
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you so much for modeling like particularly when i modeled a fitness wear for a bit i did a plus size
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fitness weight um range for a well-known brand and people were like oh this is great because i actually
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know what it's gonna look like on me now as a fat person who wants to go to the gym which is what
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everyone wants is these fat people to go to the gym what was the most well-known fashion show
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fenty no is it five ten years ago what was it victoria and what happened they started putting
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plus-size models on the runway and everyone hated it correct so we're seeing some of the biggest
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fashion brands incorporate this so i don't i don't people i don't i don't think i just don't think you
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could say it's a non-issue when i see them on the cover of magazines all the time i see them in
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store they even make mannequins that are plus size now because it's a new market for these
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companies to make well that's it that's the point is it why why is there a market for plus size now
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why do why do you guys think there's a market for plus size now okay what's the motive behind it
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market for plus size what exactly models or plus size clothing or like when you go on online shopping
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and you see a bigger person modeling the clothing what why is that because fat people have to wear
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clothes no it's because when you think it's no no no no when when you when you basically buy the
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clothes the fitting is wrong and you know a big person didn't make it because the cut is usually
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funny yeah and it's not like that with with normal clothes and to her point say okay because fat people
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have to wear clothes but that's that's the body positivity movement because you're now encouraging
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people to be at that weight because you can buy clothes and and look like this whereas if i see
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a fat model uh you know advertising clothes i'm more inclined not to buy it i actually click off
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don't fat people deserve to know what like if they're considering buying i don't know a top
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address a lingerie set a pair of shorts whatever don't they deserve to know what they may look like
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i'm sure it's all well and good it's great it's great for them but it's unhealthy for them it's also
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like to see what they might look like i want to get clarity on this point i remember 10 years ago a woman
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used to want a tree and to look good in their wedding dress is there plus size wedding dress no
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i don't know um i want to say i want to add something to the conversation in terms of why
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there are more plus size models plus size campaigns and clothing i think it's if you look at it from the
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business angle corporations are only going to go where the money is right exactly so if they can see
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the trends and see that people are getting fatter so obviously they're going to be more fat people to sell
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to so that also incentivizes them to create and to support and to fund this fat uh or this
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positivity because then it creates even more fat people that's the point so that's why it's actually
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dangerous it's not because you guys are looking at it from a personal angle of oh it makes me feel
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better but on the larger society for money there are nefarious acts being done behind the scenes to
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make sure that these things continue and can i say something can i say something would you think it's more
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positive for a for a company to get a plus size model or a company to encourage you to lose weight
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it's not that it's hold on we're talking about corporate social responsibility now and it's not
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like it's not a company's responsibility per se to encourage fat people to lose weight then why is it
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why is it why is it why is it a company's uh why is it a company's responsibility to tell you not to
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litter or why is it a company's responsibility to tell you should uh accept pride firstly why do they do
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that okay can i i don't think they should like i i don't think so you've got let's say lloyd's bank
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right pride month comes around and all these companies who actually have nothing to do with
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sexuality lloyd's bank is just an example that i have they throw up a different logo with the pride
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flag incorporated that is um like a lot of people would call it virtual signal you realize just a lot
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of people called you a bigot now because just for more clients shouldn't do that no i didn't say that
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they shouldn't do that i'm saying no no no no listen to listen very carefully because i don't
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think what i'm saying is actually that complex so a company that has nothing to do with like let's
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say health and fitness um let's say i don't know like a oral b right they make toothbrushes should they
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is it their responsibility to encourage people to lose weight and eat healthy no they should just
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sell toothbrushes and toothpaste right then so why are we having this conversation because you just answered
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your own question what was my question if you don't remember it why should i answer no so it was it
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was is it if they're going to do it and and hire fat models to advertise the clothing and and it's going
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to be on magazines everywhere and it's going to be pushed in the media that it's okay to be fat
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then is it better to do that or is it better for them to encourage people to lose weight they're already
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doing one they're already doing one yeah should they encourage the the actual healthier out the
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companies that you're talking about and not only companies who actually have business marketing
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to fat people like clothing companies we're talking like they might be advertising train tickets
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and they'll have a plus-size couple and people in one school of thought would say that's terrible
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you're encouraging people to be fat and buy train tickets it's not the train tickets company
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to encourage people to lose weight we've all just said the onus is on the individual if you
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want to talk about corporate research corporate social responsibility we have to look at the companies