JustPearlyThings - November 15, 2023


TRIGGERED Feminist THROWS A Tantrum At Pearl


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8 minutes

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1,917

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230

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7

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In this episode, I sit down with a good friend of mine and discuss abortion. We talk about the pro-choice movement in the UK and why we think that abortion is a cop-out for poor reproductive choices.

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00:00:00.000 You can't even argue about it.
00:00:01.780 So it clearly is a good argument because you're done for.
00:00:04.280 You don't know what to say.
00:00:05.220 I have an opinion on it, but we're not talking.
00:00:07.700 I wouldn't say it's...
00:00:11.300 I wouldn't say...
00:00:12.620 Okay, I can do what I want on my channel.
00:00:15.100 This is the entire...
00:00:15.820 In life, forget about the channel.
00:00:18.560 Okay, but I'm here.
00:00:19.520 This is a job.
00:00:20.440 So again, you're coming to my job and saying you need to talk about what I want on your channel.
00:00:24.740 I don't think it is love.
00:00:26.480 No, well, it's just...
00:00:27.860 Okay, so would you agree that the 99% of cases, it's a cop-out outside of...
00:00:32.840 No, not at all.
00:00:34.060 No.
00:00:34.420 I don't think you're going to change many people's minds in the UK.
00:00:37.300 Coming here, you're actually offending many people.
00:00:40.160 Okay, that's okay.
00:00:41.500 Yeah, no, it is.
00:00:42.780 How many people have all passed?
00:00:44.140 That's why we came over.
00:00:44.920 No one's fought you.
00:00:46.120 I literally ran across the road.
00:00:47.560 I was like, what is on her?
00:00:48.940 Like, what are you doing?
00:00:50.120 Sorry, no offense to you.
00:00:50.840 Like, you're allowed to have your own choice.
00:00:51.960 Yeah, but we were in shock.
00:00:53.140 That's why we came over because it's ridiculous.
00:00:55.080 I don't...
00:00:55.520 It's crazy that you're kind of brainwashed.
00:00:57.420 Almost.
00:00:58.160 Like, that's our opinion.
00:00:59.320 We believe that America is brainwashed.
00:01:01.680 They are crazy.
00:01:02.480 It's so cultish.
00:01:03.100 They are, honestly...
00:01:04.000 You don't think women can have an opinion that doesn't agree with your opinion? 1.00
00:01:08.300 I'm saying I don't think you're brainwashed because you have your opinion.
00:01:11.680 So it's a little bit offensive when you say that I'm brainwashed because I disagree with...
00:01:15.020 Because it...
00:01:15.840 I don't think you're brainwashed.
00:01:18.060 I think you just have your opinion.
00:01:19.120 I think in the respect that you're saying ignore that, I think that's why.
00:01:22.280 I think that ignore that exception.
00:01:23.440 That's what that's made us think.
00:01:24.400 The argument I'm making isn't in the cases of great.
00:01:27.720 That's not the argument.
00:01:28.600 I'm saying in 99% of cases, it is a cop-out.
00:01:32.460 It's not going to change.
00:01:33.500 Sorry for offending you.
00:01:35.260 It's okay, it's okay.
00:01:36.540 And this is the thing.
00:01:37.500 I'm not offended.
00:01:39.020 And I think a lot of girls are afraid they're going to hurt my feelings.
00:01:42.020 Ladies, I do this every day. 1.00
00:01:43.540 I am not offended.
00:01:44.880 The point is to show you that you have a flaw in logic.
00:01:48.960 And it's very frustrating to me when if I say I am pro-life, they try to degrade everything
00:01:55.020 that I said before.
00:01:56.580 It doesn't matter to them.
00:01:58.600 It doesn't matter to them if the facts, the data, the statistics are all on my side.
00:02:03.040 It's still, oh, well, you're pro-life, you're brainwashed, da-da-da-da-da.
00:02:07.480 Okay, what's your name?
00:02:08.560 You can call me Mally.
00:02:09.600 Okay, I'm Pearl.
00:02:10.460 Nice to meet you.
00:02:10.860 Nice to meet you.
00:02:11.680 So, my opinion is that in 99% of cases, abortion is a cop-out.
00:02:16.780 So, it's interesting.
00:02:18.400 For a poor decision.
00:02:19.460 It's interesting that you use a percentage in an opinion, in that instance, because
00:02:24.440 percentages are usually used for fact-based things, and you're using it for an opinion.
00:02:29.360 So, it's difficult to kind of respond to that.
00:02:31.120 So, if you think that 99% of abortions are because it's not...
00:02:35.740 What did you say again?
00:02:36.900 Because oftentimes people bring up the exception when I'm talking about the rule, right?
00:02:41.540 So, I'm saying in 99% of cases, it's a cop-out for poor reproductive choices.
00:02:47.360 I feel like, for me, it's like this.
00:02:49.660 If you're going to say 99%, that means you have to have literally either a sample group
00:02:53.640 of like literally 99 people in one person, or a ratio that's equal to that, and it has
00:02:58.680 to come from a value source.
00:03:00.060 So, unless it's your opinion, which means it's false.
00:03:02.460 No, no, it comes from data.
00:03:04.400 That's...
00:03:04.940 It comes from data like what?
00:03:06.700 So, in the US...
00:03:07.860 Like Trump posts?
00:03:09.180 Like...
00:03:09.280 No, not Trump posts.
00:03:12.200 So, no, do you want to let me talk?
00:03:14.240 I can tell you where it's from.
00:03:15.220 So, I got it from the government website of the UK, and the US, they survey abortion clinics.
00:03:20.740 So, people are surveyed as to why they get an abortion.
00:03:24.100 Your sample group was the UK or the US?
00:03:26.280 Both, and it's similar.
00:03:27.560 So, you sample group the UK, and what states in the US?
00:03:30.360 So, one of them was Florida.
00:03:31.700 Off the top of my head, I can't tell you every single one.
00:03:34.380 The calculation that you made is 99% of abortion...
00:03:38.320 Sorry, because I'm...
00:03:39.240 So, again, so, again, so, here's the thing, like, that's not the point.
00:03:43.520 The point is that when a woman chooses to get an abortion outside of grape, I think it 1.00
00:03:48.080 is a cop-out.
00:03:49.000 So...
00:03:49.240 And I really would rather not go back and forth about grape.
00:03:52.000 That's completely fine.
00:03:53.020 I think everyone's entitled to their opinion, but the law is completely different.
00:03:56.000 So, what is your opinion?
00:03:57.060 My opinion about what?
00:03:58.840 Abortion? 0.89
00:03:59.640 Yes.
00:04:00.500 My opinion about abortion is I've never gone through it, personally, myself.
00:04:04.220 I'm not a woman in that instance, so I'd never know exactly what it's like.
00:04:07.100 But if I was going to have a child that I felt like I couldn't care for, then it would
00:04:11.160 be something that I would consider in that instance if I was in that situation.
00:04:14.100 So, I think it's...
00:04:14.820 Especially when America promotes the American dream, which is meant to be freedom, it's
00:04:18.600 ironic that they're taking away choice.
00:04:20.480 What does that have to do with anything I just said?
00:04:22.800 You don't think when we have 10 different forms of birth control, so we can get it...
00:04:26.820 Use a condom.
00:04:28.100 That's what I'm saying.
00:04:28.940 I'm saying we have choice, though, as women.
00:04:31.140 You're saying like...
00:04:31.800 You're acting like women don't have choice.
00:04:33.080 And I'm saying I am a woman.
00:04:34.340 I'm from the U.S.
00:04:35.080 And I have the choice.
00:04:36.560 I have...
00:04:36.980 I...
00:04:37.440 I...
00:04:37.980 I...
00:04:38.200 Okay.
00:04:39.020 You want to go to the Chinese government with that kind of moving... 0.83
00:04:41.380 Okay.
00:04:41.620 So, I need you to let me finish.
00:04:43.460 Again, we have...
00:04:44.380 I can use a condom.
00:04:45.760 I can do abstinence.
00:04:47.260 I can get the IUD.
00:04:48.380 I think you guys call it the coil here.
00:04:50.380 I can get birth control.
00:04:52.080 I can get a bunch of different pills.
00:04:53.760 I can get that thing you stick in your arm.
00:04:55.460 I can do adoption if I want.
00:04:57.420 I think those are all...
00:04:58.500 I can also track when I'm ovulating.
00:05:00.640 I think those are all valid choices.
00:05:02.540 I think what's ironic about all those things that you mentioned is they have a lesser percentage
00:05:05.860 of stopping a pregnancy than your percentage that you have of...
00:05:08.680 It's not 99% when it comes to a condom.
00:05:11.120 It's not 99%...
00:05:11.460 It's 99.5% when it comes to the coil, an IUD.
00:05:15.460 Okay.
00:05:15.880 So, that's ironic because I said the condom and you didn't mention that at all.
00:05:18.420 So, a condom...
00:05:19.220 Can you mention...
00:05:19.980 Can you mention the condom?
00:05:20.280 So, a condom...
00:05:20.860 So, a condom is 98%.
00:05:22.260 So, if you do the coil and you have a condom...
00:05:24.720 I know, but...
00:05:25.160 You can do both.
00:05:25.940 ...it still stands, if you know what I'm saying.
00:05:27.460 No, because...
00:05:28.060 Because that's not...
00:05:28.800 That's not...
00:05:29.200 That's not...
00:05:29.700 And I said that the things that you...
00:05:31.360 Okay, I can't finish.
00:05:31.880 That's not accurate because, again, I also said abstinence.
00:05:35.220 That's 100%.
00:05:36.300 You mentioned that condoms are 98%.
00:05:37.920 So, if 98% chance that someone's going to be pregnant... 1.00
00:05:41.040 See, you're moving the gold list.
00:05:42.120 No, no, no, if there's a 98% chance...
00:05:45.020 No, if there's a 2% chance that someone could be pregnant with using a condom... 1.00
00:05:47.960 Then that's not an effective form of contraception...
00:05:50.140 If I can't have an abortion based off the fact that 99% of abortion...
00:05:54.140 99% of child pregnancies that I want to... 0.99
00:05:57.280 So, yeah.
00:05:58.040 What about abstinence?
00:05:59.480 I don't know what abstinence is.
00:06:00.720 What?
00:06:01.520 Not having sex.
00:06:02.480 What percent of pregnancies does that prevent?
00:06:05.440 I mean, abstinence is not really part of the question.
00:06:07.580 That's like a random variable.
00:06:08.920 It is because I listed that as a form of birth control.
00:06:12.120 You list abstinence as a form of birth control?
00:06:14.140 Yeah.
00:06:14.620 What is abstinence to you?
00:06:15.820 Bro, what are you talking about, man?
00:06:17.440 Not having sex.
00:06:18.500 What?
00:06:18.820 Personally?
00:06:19.480 Anyone can...
00:06:20.340 Yeah.
00:06:20.880 So, you're going to say...
00:06:22.900 If you're going to promote abstinence...
00:06:26.300 I'm saying, like, that's a choice.
00:06:29.100 Okay, let me just think of a perfect metaphor for this.
00:06:31.260 So, another stat that people don't realize is 40% of women that get abortions have had two 0.86
00:06:36.100 or more.
00:06:36.800 Both in the UK, you can look that up, that's on a UK government website, and in the US.
00:06:42.100 And they don't...
00:06:42.640 And so, and they track, they track, they track, and they don't track the 60% if they're going
00:06:48.040 to have abortions in the future.
00:06:49.500 That's great.
00:06:50.180 So, when you say abstinence, do you think that's a natural thing?
00:06:53.060 I think it's a natural thing.
00:06:54.660 No.
00:06:55.280 I think abstinence is very hard.
00:06:56.880 You think it's an unnatural thing?
00:06:58.120 So, what's ironic about that is you promote that as a solution.
00:07:01.620 One of...
00:07:02.620 No, no, no, no, no.
00:07:04.140 No, no.
00:07:04.920 This is my channel.
00:07:05.760 This is my channel.
00:07:06.900 This guy frustrated me because I hate it when interviewees come up to me and tell me how
00:07:13.640 to interview them and try to tell me what we're going to talk about.
00:07:16.240 No!
00:07:17.440 This is my channel!
00:07:19.580 I get to pick what we're talking about!
00:07:22.020 Not you!
00:07:22.760 So, yeah, I had to let him go because he wasn't listening.
00:07:26.180 He wasn't listening.
00:07:27.260 This is my channel.
00:07:29.300 This is my channel.
00:07:30.500 You're coming to my job, okay?
00:07:32.560 So, I'm saying, again, that was one of many options that I gave.
00:07:36.340 Condoms?
00:07:36.740 Like I mentioned, but you disregarded.
00:07:38.220 So, you said you stuck on abstinence.
00:07:39.900 So, let's stay with abstinence.
00:07:41.560 I mentioned eight different forms.
00:07:44.760 But you refused to hit me out when I said condoms.
00:07:47.320 So, let's stick with abstinence because you push abstinence.
00:07:49.640 We have video evidence, you know what I'm saying?
00:07:51.180 So, let's stick to abstinence.
00:07:52.380 So, you said it's not a natural thing, you know what I'm saying?
00:07:55.340 But the whole thing about this whole abortion thing is how it's unnatural.
00:07:57.880 I think, I think...
00:07:59.040 Abortions are unnatural and that's your kind of argument for it. 1.00
00:08:01.900 But when you're promoting the solution to being unnatural things, it's hypocritical.
00:08:05.620 No, no, no, no.
00:08:07.000 I promoted eight.
00:08:08.260 I promoted eight forms of contraception.
00:08:10.680 I also said it's hypocritical.
00:08:11.500 That is one of eight.
00:08:12.580 That's two things.
00:08:13.240 That's two of eight that I find hypocritical because condoms are 98%.
00:08:16.060 Again, you're talking about...
00:08:17.640 So, this is the problem.
00:08:19.640 If you're looking for exceptions and we're talking about the rule.
00:08:22.520 So, you're talking about exceptions and we're talking about the rule.
00:08:27.060 So, even with condoms, you have a 98% chance of not getting pregnant. 0.90
00:08:32.820 That's pretty good odds.
00:08:34.080 So, I'm saying that if you don't want to use condoms, you also have abstinence.
00:08:39.080 You can also get an IUD.
00:08:40.920 You can use a coil.
00:08:41.780 You can use birth control.
00:08:42.820 You can do the thing that...
00:08:43.980 That is if my primary goal is to not get pregnant.
00:08:46.620 What if my primary goal is to have sex and not have a pregnancy?
00:08:49.900 You take...
00:08:50.320 You removing...
00:08:51.120 You removing very...
00:08:51.880 No, so then...
00:08:52.580 So, then you should use the eight forms of contraception that we have.
00:08:56.400 I should...