UNDERCOVER Trans Woman Comes Out Clean On The Show
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Summary
In this episode, we have a special guest on the podcast, two trans brothers, Paul and Paula. We talk about their transition from male to female, the process of transitioning, and what it was like growing up as transgender.
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When you guys transitioned, how old were you? I didn't even know that
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Thank you for outing us. I really appreciate that
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That's like that's something that we should have the opportunity to say
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Alright I just figured this is what you came on the podcast to talk about
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You know you don't necessarily out your gay friends
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friends okay you can tell i didn't well i don't know if anyone i'm not trying to be rude i'm just
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being honest i mean i don't think paul said anything wrong i think obviously i can understand
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to why you said like you know it's your kind of position to say and tell people but then
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this is i just i feel like if you have if you were a man before and now you're a female if
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you're a female now you're a man do you not think that it's facts like do you not think that you
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know you still i don't know it's okay to say they're still biologically male or biologically
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female but if they're presenting as a woman do you want to answer the question or no what was the
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question what when did you transition how old so i came out when i was 28 okay i started my medical
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transition two years ago okay and what was the process the process of like like of transitioning
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i'm just curious how um in the process okay you're still i don't know how it works i'm in the
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process okay and medically for two years okay what about you i'll start when i was 25 okay um so my
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question is did they look at you guys as hormones before because i i've worked i just i'm only asking
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because i worked with a doctor um and he said sometimes trans people if they think they're the
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opposite gender but really it's like their hormones are really off and so i'll talk for myself i'll talk
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yeah so like with me yeah like i've always been a boy like since i was a kid i've i've i've always been
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a little boy and you know i'm i was born in 1988 i grew up in the 90s yeah by the time i was 18 it was
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like early i can't remember now but you know whatever the timeline is but it's a different time now than it is
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for then and i can only imagine for people that were born you know earlier on than me but for me i had to
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pretend for a long time that i liked boys you know i mean i had to pretend that i wasn't uh a boy trapped in a
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girl's body because of of of losing my friends people's opinions it was a lonely time um but i've
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always been a boy i've never been interested in all of that stuff and my parents put me in a girl's high
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school and i swear to you yeah i i i was looking far and wide for the tomboys in that school my question
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my question is more like i'm just i'm just curious if they did anything to prevent you from transitioning
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when you went to the doctor so if they said let's get your hormones checked out first let's do therapy
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first or did they did they just have you transition no so like they did the therapy so it wasn't really
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therapy it was like they just asked you questions and like i was never uh i've always like cared about
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what people think like i've always i've always cared about what people think you know people's opinions
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of me has always mattered to me and i got to the point where i was so unhappy that i just i had to put
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myself first like i had to really just say like you're not happy with your life you're not happy
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with how you feel about yourself people would tell me i'm pretty and i just feel ugly like i just didn't
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want i did i just didn't like any of it you know i mean it was really difficult it's it's it's and it
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goes back way before so i'm just curious when you went to the doctors they they had you do therapy
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so they spoke to me they asked me about my my past how long i've wanted to do this for and
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all of these things and and so forth but i was really i was really excited i was like look i need
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to do this i'm 25 i look in the mirror i don't see a 25 year old man and i felt crap i felt really
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crap you know i mean and even when i started my transition i didn't get any facial hair for a long
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time i thought okay so so when you went it's important so did they did they do therapy first
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i'm just asking what do they do to prevent it or do they just give you guys drugs i don't do like they
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let you talk they give you an open space and they judge you based on in my opinion my experience this
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was like 10 years ago but they they they ask you relevant questions and they base it on what they
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perceive how serious you are so therapy yes or no i just want do they have you do therapy first yes or no
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i i i personally wouldn't call it therapy in my opinion that's not what i would call it
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wait how old were you when you started did you say you were 25 when you started me yeah yeah okay
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so he wasn't a kid anyway right i'm not saying they should or they shouldn't i'm just asking okay so
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yes no okay or sorry yes no but but they what they probably gave me the same thing how long did you
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do therapy for i had 20 sessions of therapy i had 20 sessions of therapy that's like over what three months
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and then four months over longer than that okay um and then um yeah like i there was quite a rigorous um
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like a discussion like couple discussions with um psychologists um you know like it was
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i was 28 when i went to my gp about it um i was 32 or 33 uh just before i was 32 when i started hormones
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i had already thought about every single possibility this is not necessarily something i actually wanted
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to do to my body but this is something that actually saved my life um i like um like you i i knew from
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quite young from when i was about four that i was very very different there was something that didn't
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connect um i tried to ignore that i tried to absolutely eradicate that from my being especially as
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it was always said to me so negatively oh you want to be a boy in it or all of this it was always
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extremely negative connotations so i really tried to and that was from being young there was there was
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like we you know they were they were transgender people within my community when i was a kid in
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south london okay so but you did roughly six months a year of therapy yeah okay which one six months or a
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year just over six months okay six months of therapy and then did they check you guys's hormones
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first they checked mine they checked my they didn't want so did you have like low high testosterone like
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what to be honest i don't know i didn't ask okay because i i just imagine that would be something
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they'd go through with you if they're checking it possible i mean to be honest you don't remember
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no i got adhd as well so i suppose what they say to me and i just bounce off what about you they check
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your hormones they do yeah yeah yeah they check they check my hormones and stuff but i can't remember
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what the results was i will say there is more to it than just having abnormally high i am an owner of
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abnormally high testosterone i take two anti-androgens um myself because i have polycystic ovary syndrome um
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um insulin resistant is high um these medications have stopped me from experiences and some of the
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medications would be the same as what a trans woman would take um so i do think that being a trans
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woman there's more to it than just having high a lot of women just have high testosterone especially
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if you're doing sports and stuff right no no that's true um sports does raise your um testosterone but
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but i i just worked with a doctor he said he's been doing it for 20 years i do think it's good to get
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your yeah no i'm just wondering if they do that first i'm gonna do super chats for a second and