JustPearlyThings - June 25, 2023


UNDERCOVER Trans Woman Comes Out Clean On The Show

Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
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8 minutes

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1,551

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2

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1

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Summary

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In this episode, we have a special guest on the podcast, two trans brothers, Paul and Paula. We talk about their transition from male to female, the process of transitioning, and what it was like growing up as transgender.

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00:00:00.000 I have a question
00:00:02.000 Cuz you two are both trans so I'm curious
00:00:06.880 When you guys transitioned, how old were you? I didn't even know that
00:00:10.120 I guess we can't tell transgender people 1.00
00:00:12.640 Thank you for outing us. I really appreciate that
00:00:15.040 That's like that's something that we should have the opportunity to say
00:00:18.380 Alright I just figured this is what you came on the podcast to talk about
00:00:22.180 Sorry didn't mean to
00:00:23.680 You know you don't necessarily out your gay friends
00:00:25.680 friends okay you can tell i didn't well i don't know if anyone i'm not trying to be rude i'm just
00:00:34.420 being honest i mean i don't think paul said anything wrong i think obviously i can understand
00:00:39.620 to why you said like you know it's your kind of position to say and tell people but then
00:00:45.460 this is i just i feel like if you have if you were a man before and now you're a female if
00:00:53.720 you're a female now you're a man do you not think that it's facts like do you not think that you
00:00:59.200 know you still i don't know it's okay to say they're still biologically male or biologically
00:01:05.260 female but if they're presenting as a woman do you want to answer the question or no what was the
00:01:11.160 question what when did you transition how old so i came out when i was 28 okay i started my medical
00:01:16.720 transition two years ago okay and what was the process the process of like like of transitioning
00:01:22.340 i'm just curious how um in the process okay you're still i don't know how it works i'm in the
00:01:29.820 process okay and medically for two years okay what about you i'll start when i was 25 okay um so my
00:01:38.600 question is did they look at you guys as hormones before because i i've worked i just i'm only asking
00:01:45.460 because i worked with a doctor um and he said sometimes trans people if they think they're the
00:01:50.820 opposite gender but really it's like their hormones are really off and so i'll talk for myself i'll talk 0.99
00:01:56.100 yeah so like with me yeah like i've always been a boy like since i was a kid i've i've i've always been
00:02:06.840 a little boy and you know i'm i was born in 1988 i grew up in the 90s yeah by the time i was 18 it was
00:02:16.460 like early i can't remember now but you know whatever the timeline is but it's a different time now than it is
00:02:23.660 for then and i can only imagine for people that were born you know earlier on than me but for me i had to
00:02:30.140 pretend for a long time that i liked boys you know i mean i had to pretend that i wasn't uh a boy trapped in a
00:02:40.460 girl's body because of of of losing my friends people's opinions it was a lonely time um but i've
00:02:51.020 always been a boy i've never been interested in all of that stuff and my parents put me in a girl's high
00:02:56.060 school and i swear to you yeah i i i was looking far and wide for the tomboys in that school my question
00:03:03.860 my question is more like i'm just i'm just curious if they did anything to prevent you from transitioning
00:03:09.420 when you went to the doctor so if they said let's get your hormones checked out first let's do therapy 1.00
00:03:13.740 first or did they did they just have you transition no so like they did the therapy so it wasn't really
00:03:19.100 therapy it was like they just asked you questions and like i was never uh i've always like cared about
00:03:26.380 what people think like i've always i've always cared about what people think you know people's opinions
00:03:30.860 of me has always mattered to me and i got to the point where i was so unhappy that i just i had to put
00:03:38.220 myself first like i had to really just say like you're not happy with your life you're not happy
00:03:44.220 with how you feel about yourself people would tell me i'm pretty and i just feel ugly like i just didn't
00:03:51.980 want i did i just didn't like any of it you know i mean it was really difficult it's it's it's and it
00:03:57.180 goes back way before so i'm just curious when you went to the doctors they they had you do therapy
00:04:03.340 so they spoke to me they asked me about my my past how long i've wanted to do this for and
00:04:09.260 all of these things and and so forth but i was really i was really excited i was like look i need
00:04:14.300 to do this i'm 25 i look in the mirror i don't see a 25 year old man and i felt crap i felt really
00:04:21.580 crap you know i mean and even when i started my transition i didn't get any facial hair for a long
00:04:26.060 time i thought okay so so when you went it's important so did they did they do therapy first 0.96
00:04:32.380 i'm just asking what do they do to prevent it or do they just give you guys drugs i don't do like they
00:04:36.460 let you talk they give you an open space and they judge you based on in my opinion my experience this
00:04:41.260 was like 10 years ago but they they they ask you relevant questions and they base it on what they
00:04:48.380 perceive how serious you are so therapy yes or no i just want do they have you do therapy first yes or no
00:04:54.940 i i i personally wouldn't call it therapy in my opinion that's not what i would call it
00:05:00.620 wait how old were you when you started did you say you were 25 when you started me yeah yeah okay
00:05:06.860 so he wasn't a kid anyway right i'm not saying they should or they shouldn't i'm just asking okay so
00:05:12.300 yes no okay or sorry yes no but but they what they probably gave me the same thing how long did you
00:05:18.220 do therapy for i had 20 sessions of therapy i had 20 sessions of therapy that's like over what three months
00:05:23.580 and then four months over longer than that okay um and then um yeah like i there was quite a rigorous um
00:05:33.420 like a discussion like couple discussions with um psychologists um you know like it was
00:05:41.820 i was 28 when i went to my gp about it um i was 32 or 33 uh just before i was 32 when i started hormones
00:05:53.340 i had already thought about every single possibility this is not necessarily something i actually wanted
00:05:58.940 to do to my body but this is something that actually saved my life um i like um like you i i knew from
00:06:07.740 quite young from when i was about four that i was very very different there was something that didn't
00:06:11.740 connect um i tried to ignore that i tried to absolutely eradicate that from my being especially as
00:06:18.620 it was always said to me so negatively oh you want to be a boy in it or all of this it was always
00:06:24.300 extremely negative connotations so i really tried to and that was from being young there was there was
00:06:28.780 like we you know they were they were transgender people within my community when i was a kid in
00:06:32.780 south london okay so but you did roughly six months a year of therapy yeah okay which one six months or a
00:06:39.580 year just over six months okay six months of therapy and then did they check you guys's hormones
00:06:44.540 first they checked mine they checked my they didn't want so did you have like low high testosterone like
00:06:49.100 what to be honest i don't know i didn't ask okay because i i just imagine that would be something
00:06:54.940 they'd go through with you if they're checking it possible i mean to be honest you don't remember
00:06:59.100 no i got adhd as well so i suppose what they say to me and i just bounce off what about you they check
00:07:05.260 your hormones they do yeah yeah yeah they check they check my hormones and stuff but i can't remember
00:07:09.820 what the results was i will say there is more to it than just having abnormally high i am an owner of
00:07:17.180 abnormally high testosterone i take two anti-androgens um myself because i have polycystic ovary syndrome um
00:07:25.900 um insulin resistant is high um these medications have stopped me from experiences and some of the
00:07:33.180 medications would be the same as what a trans woman would take um so i do think that being a trans
00:07:38.860 woman there's more to it than just having high a lot of women just have high testosterone especially 1.00
00:07:43.180 if you're doing sports and stuff right no no that's true um sports does raise your um testosterone but
00:07:49.500 but i i just worked with a doctor he said he's been doing it for 20 years i do think it's good to get
00:07:53.420 your yeah no i'm just wondering if they do that first i'm gonna do super chats for a second and
00:07:58.380 and then we'll go on to the next question