JustPearlyThings - June 25, 2023


UNDERCOVER Trans Woman Comes Out Clean On The Show


Episode Stats

Length

8 minutes

Words per Minute

193.72163

Word Count

1,551

Sentence Count

2

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I have a question
00:00:02.000 Cuz you two are both trans so I'm curious
00:00:06.880 When you guys transitioned, how old were you? I didn't even know that
00:00:10.120 I guess we can't tell transgender people
00:00:12.640 Thank you for outing us. I really appreciate that
00:00:15.040 That's like that's something that we should have the opportunity to say
00:00:18.380 Alright I just figured this is what you came on the podcast to talk about
00:00:22.180 Sorry didn't mean to
00:00:23.680 You know you don't necessarily out your gay friends
00:00:25.680 friends okay you can tell i didn't well i don't know if anyone i'm not trying to be rude i'm just
00:00:34.420 being honest i mean i don't think paul said anything wrong i think obviously i can understand
00:00:39.620 to why you said like you know it's your kind of position to say and tell people but then
00:00:45.460 this is i just i feel like if you have if you were a man before and now you're a female if
00:00:53.720 you're a female now you're a man do you not think that it's facts like do you not think that you
00:00:59.200 know you still i don't know it's okay to say they're still biologically male or biologically
00:01:05.260 female but if they're presenting as a woman do you want to answer the question or no what was the
00:01:11.160 question what when did you transition how old so i came out when i was 28 okay i started my medical
00:01:16.720 transition two years ago okay and what was the process the process of like like of transitioning
00:01:22.340 i'm just curious how um in the process okay you're still i don't know how it works i'm in the
00:01:29.820 process okay and medically for two years okay what about you i'll start when i was 25 okay um so my
00:01:38.600 question is did they look at you guys as hormones before because i i've worked i just i'm only asking
00:01:45.460 because i worked with a doctor um and he said sometimes trans people if they think they're the
00:01:50.820 opposite gender but really it's like their hormones are really off and so i'll talk for myself i'll talk
00:01:56.100 yeah so like with me yeah like i've always been a boy like since i was a kid i've i've i've always been
00:02:06.840 a little boy and you know i'm i was born in 1988 i grew up in the 90s yeah by the time i was 18 it was
00:02:16.460 like early i can't remember now but you know whatever the timeline is but it's a different time now than it is
00:02:23.660 for then and i can only imagine for people that were born you know earlier on than me but for me i had to
00:02:30.140 pretend for a long time that i liked boys you know i mean i had to pretend that i wasn't uh a boy trapped in a
00:02:40.460 girl's body because of of of losing my friends people's opinions it was a lonely time um but i've
00:02:51.020 always been a boy i've never been interested in all of that stuff and my parents put me in a girl's high
00:02:56.060 school and i swear to you yeah i i i was looking far and wide for the tomboys in that school my question
00:03:03.860 my question is more like i'm just i'm just curious if they did anything to prevent you from transitioning
00:03:09.420 when you went to the doctor so if they said let's get your hormones checked out first let's do therapy
00:03:13.740 first or did they did they just have you transition no so like they did the therapy so it wasn't really
00:03:19.100 therapy it was like they just asked you questions and like i was never uh i've always like cared about
00:03:26.380 what people think like i've always i've always cared about what people think you know people's opinions
00:03:30.860 of me has always mattered to me and i got to the point where i was so unhappy that i just i had to put
00:03:38.220 myself first like i had to really just say like you're not happy with your life you're not happy
00:03:44.220 with how you feel about yourself people would tell me i'm pretty and i just feel ugly like i just didn't
00:03:51.980 want i did i just didn't like any of it you know i mean it was really difficult it's it's it's and it
00:03:57.180 goes back way before so i'm just curious when you went to the doctors they they had you do therapy
00:04:03.340 so they spoke to me they asked me about my my past how long i've wanted to do this for and
00:04:09.260 all of these things and and so forth but i was really i was really excited i was like look i need
00:04:14.300 to do this i'm 25 i look in the mirror i don't see a 25 year old man and i felt crap i felt really
00:04:21.580 crap you know i mean and even when i started my transition i didn't get any facial hair for a long
00:04:26.060 time i thought okay so so when you went it's important so did they did they do therapy first
00:04:32.380 i'm just asking what do they do to prevent it or do they just give you guys drugs i don't do like they
00:04:36.460 let you talk they give you an open space and they judge you based on in my opinion my experience this
00:04:41.260 was like 10 years ago but they they they ask you relevant questions and they base it on what they
00:04:48.380 perceive how serious you are so therapy yes or no i just want do they have you do therapy first yes or no
00:04:54.940 i i i personally wouldn't call it therapy in my opinion that's not what i would call it
00:05:00.620 wait how old were you when you started did you say you were 25 when you started me yeah yeah okay
00:05:06.860 so he wasn't a kid anyway right i'm not saying they should or they shouldn't i'm just asking okay so
00:05:12.300 yes no okay or sorry yes no but but they what they probably gave me the same thing how long did you
00:05:18.220 do therapy for i had 20 sessions of therapy i had 20 sessions of therapy that's like over what three months
00:05:23.580 and then four months over longer than that okay um and then um yeah like i there was quite a rigorous um
00:05:33.420 like a discussion like couple discussions with um psychologists um you know like it was
00:05:41.820 i was 28 when i went to my gp about it um i was 32 or 33 uh just before i was 32 when i started hormones
00:05:53.340 i had already thought about every single possibility this is not necessarily something i actually wanted
00:05:58.940 to do to my body but this is something that actually saved my life um i like um like you i i knew from
00:06:07.740 quite young from when i was about four that i was very very different there was something that didn't
00:06:11.740 connect um i tried to ignore that i tried to absolutely eradicate that from my being especially as
00:06:18.620 it was always said to me so negatively oh you want to be a boy in it or all of this it was always
00:06:24.300 extremely negative connotations so i really tried to and that was from being young there was there was
00:06:28.780 like we you know they were they were transgender people within my community when i was a kid in
00:06:32.780 south london okay so but you did roughly six months a year of therapy yeah okay which one six months or a
00:06:39.580 year just over six months okay six months of therapy and then did they check you guys's hormones
00:06:44.540 first they checked mine they checked my they didn't want so did you have like low high testosterone like
00:06:49.100 what to be honest i don't know i didn't ask okay because i i just imagine that would be something
00:06:54.940 they'd go through with you if they're checking it possible i mean to be honest you don't remember
00:06:59.100 no i got adhd as well so i suppose what they say to me and i just bounce off what about you they check
00:07:05.260 your hormones they do yeah yeah yeah they check they check my hormones and stuff but i can't remember
00:07:09.820 what the results was i will say there is more to it than just having abnormally high i am an owner of
00:07:17.180 abnormally high testosterone i take two anti-androgens um myself because i have polycystic ovary syndrome um
00:07:25.900 um insulin resistant is high um these medications have stopped me from experiences and some of the
00:07:33.180 medications would be the same as what a trans woman would take um so i do think that being a trans
00:07:38.860 woman there's more to it than just having high a lot of women just have high testosterone especially
00:07:43.180 if you're doing sports and stuff right no no that's true um sports does raise your um testosterone but
00:07:49.500 but i i just worked with a doctor he said he's been doing it for 20 years i do think it's good to get
00:07:53.420 your yeah no i'm just wondering if they do that first i'm gonna do super chats for a second and
00:07:58.380 and then we'll go on to the next question